T2 IRC Log: 2007-02-09
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--- Log opened Fri Feb 09 00:00:56 2007
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00:14 < apache-chaos> ok cool
00:14 < apache-chaos> they said it was udev upgrade or something
00:14 < apache-chaos> hds labels switch to sda
00:15 < apache-chaos> for drives
00:15 < apache-chaos> and if your config files dont match your boot loader and fstab kaputt
00:15 < apache-chaos> kernel panic
00:16 < apache-chaos> when you leave t2 to install, does it sop lots of times to ask you X, so that you have to baby sit it?
00:17 < apache-chaos> stop
00:18 < sepp_> once it started extracting packages it does not ask, only for reboot once it is done
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01:10 < gak> including new kernel?
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02:46 < magic_user> hello
02:46 < magic_user> I created a /boot dir / and swap
02:46 < magic_user> am installing t2
02:47 < magic_user> and grub thinks root device is hda3 which is / not /boot
02:47 < magic_user> the idea is if the filesystem fills to be able to boot using small boot dir
02:47 < magic_user> does this make sense?
02:47 < magic_user> how can i make grub use hda1 the /boot dir as the boot device?
03:35 < magic_user> ?
03:38 < magic_user> will emerge-package pull a package from the internet?
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08:43 < Baldzius> moin
09:21 < rxr> moin
09:21 < rxr> magic_user: Emerge will build from the source out of the internet
09:21 < rxr> magic_user: the last time I checked our grub stone module worked with a seperate /boot
09:22 < rxr> magic_user: maybe a regression? you can manually tweak the /boot/grub/menu.lst ...
09:22 < CIA-21> aldas * r22459 /trunk/package/develop/php/ (CVE-2006-6383.patch php.desc):
09:22 < CIA-21> * updated php (5.2.0 -> 5.2.1)
09:22 < CIA-21> * removed CVE-2006-6383.patch - obsolete
09:22 < CIA-21> * security update
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10:22 < CIA-21> rene * r22460 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * updated libuninum (1.2 -> 2.1)
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10:23 < sepp> moin :)
10:26 < rxr> moin moin sepp
10:27 < sepp> moin rxr :)
10:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22461 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.35 -> 8.37)
10:31 < CIA-21> rene * r22462 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * removed libuninum compile hack, apperas to be properly fixed upstream, now
11:03 < CIA-21> aldas * r22465 /trunk/package/database/phppgadmin/phppgadmin.desc: * updated phppgadmin (4.0.1 -> 4.1)
11:04 < CIA-21> rene * r22463 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (1.0.6 -> 1.2.1.1), updated Url tags and tweaked build Priority
11:17 < CIA-21> aldas * r22464 /trunk/package/mail/courier-authlib/courier-authlib.desc: * updated courier-authlib (0.59 -> 0.59.1)
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11:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22466 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-calculator/gpe-calculator.desc: * changed gpe-calculator build priority (203.900 -> 209.900) and fixed it to honor the $prefix
11:31 < CIA-21> susan * r22467 /trunk/package/gpe/libgpelaunch/ (. libgpelaunch.cache libgpelaunch.desc): * added libgpelaunch (0.14) - GPE launch control library
11:32 < rxr> PHP 5.2.1 stopft Sicherheitslücken
11:36 < sepp> haha
11:36 < sepp> :)
11:42 < rxr> guess haha due to the overal insecurity of php ?
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11:46 < sepp> yup
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11:47 < sepp> sounds like 3 gazillion - 1 holes now
11:50 < rxr> heh
11:51 < rxr> Btw. Linux Magazine gave the Archivist Scan Box solution a test spin, including mentioning T2 :-)
11:51 < rxr> yesterday's issue page 90+91
11:54 < sepp> :)
11:59 < CIA-21> rene * r22468 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: * also format the 2nd (unused) system partition during the archivista installation
12:01 < CIA-21> rene * r22469 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc:
12:01 < CIA-21> * updated scribus Url and Text tags, including removal of commercial product
12:01 < CIA-21> names in favour of more textual description
12:38 < CIA-21> susan * r22471 /trunk/package/gpe/libschedule/ (. libschedule.cache libschedule.desc): * added libschedule (0.16) - Provides a lowlevel interface for alarm event scheduling
12:47 < CIA-21> susan * r22470 /trunk/package/gpe/libxsettings-client/ (. libxsettings-client.cache libxsettings-client.desc): * added libxsettings-client (0.17) - Common XSETTINGS client code
13:07 < rxr> so - lunch
13:07 < rxr> cu
13:09 < CIA-21> rene * r22472 /trunk/package/gpe/ (13 files in 11 dirs):
13:09 < CIA-21> * tweaked gpe Priority tags due failurs in the reference build
13:09 < CIA-21> * fixed libsoundgen to install it's headers and gpe-announce to install in $prefix
13:09 < CIA-21> * updated gpe .cache files when they had an ERROR mark or where missing
14:07 < rxr> re
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14:34 < rxr> :-( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54227
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15:04 < rxr> R4gnar0k: netpbm is really rather ugly, I knew from the API side already - and that is why I canned it in ExactImage - but the configure is the next ugly beast of it :-(
15:06 < CIA-21> rene * r22475 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/ (netpbm.conf netpbm.desc):
15:06 < CIA-21> * updated netpbm (10.33 -> 10.34), plus required config adaptions -
15:06 < CIA-21> appears to fix netpbm runtime on x86-64
15:10 < rxr> oh damn
15:11 < rxr> R4gnar0k: oh damn - this netpbm maintainer does not spin tarballs anymore, instead on has to grab from the new SVN - this would not be a problem - if this person would know how to use SVN !?!?!?!? - je just throws all into a stable sub-dir instead of doing tags ...
15:11 * rxr headshake ...
15:19 < CIA-21> rene * r22473 /trunk/package/graphic/magicpoint/magicpoint.desc: * updated magicpoint (1.11b -> 1.12a)
15:19 < CIA-21> rene * r22474 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/ (hotfix_libquicktime.patch mjpegtools.desc): * updated mjpegtools (1.8.0 -> 1.9.0rc1)
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16:15 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ magic_user] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
16:15 [ Capey ] [ emte_ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ zod ]
16:15 [ CIA-21 ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k ] [ Stelz]
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16:30 < CIA-21> rene * r22476 /trunk/package/develop/fpc/fpc.desc: * updated fpc (2.0.0 -> 2.0.4)
16:38 < CIA-21> rene * r22477 /trunk/package/develop/fpc/fpc.conf: * fixed fpc to invoke make with the target all, as just make prints the usage
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16:45 < rxr> "Der deutsche Innenminister Schäuble hat jetzt anscheinend einen kompletten Realitätsverlust erlitten, denn Heise meldet mit Verweis auf ein taz-Interview: »Schäuble: Trojaner sollen auch private Tagebücher durchsuchen« -- damit meint Schäuble allerdings nicht Blogs sondern Tagebücher, die die Terroristen auf Ihrer Festplatte z.B. im Word-Format gespeichert haben. Und weil Terroristen wissen, dass das Gesetz das Eindringen in den "Kernbereichs privater Lebensführung" nicht erlaubt, würden sie das schamlos ausnutzen und deswegen müsste die Verfassung entsprechend abgeändert werden: »Verbrecher und Terroristen sind klug genug, so etwas auszunutzen. Die tarnen ihre Informationen dann zum Beispiel als Tagebucheintrag. So leicht dürfen wir es denen nicht machen.« so Schäuble."
16:45 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/articles/07/02/09/1244255.shtml
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16:47 < CIA-21> pfister * r22478 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/clear-archive.sh: Delete documents and folders
16:54 < rxr> lol: "Für das Sommerloch ist es nun doch noch ein wenig zu früh! Es ist heute zu leicht geworden, Politiker zu werden! Statt einer 5-Prozent-Hürde wäre vielleicht ein Intelligenztest (oder vielleicht eher Realitätstest) angebracht :-( "
16:55 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/comments.pl?sid=07/02/09/1244255&cid=6
16:59 < rxr> http://www.taz.de/pt/2007/02/08/a0169.1/text
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17:48 < CIA-21> pfister * r22479 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: Menu entry for removing documents or folders
18:16 < CIA-21> rene * r22480 /trunk/package/x11/xfe/ (. xfe.cache xfe.desc): * added xfe (0.98) - A file manager for the X Window System
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18:55 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ magic_user] [ rxr ] [ zod]
18:55 [ Capey ] [ emte__] [ mtr ] [ Stelz ]
18:55 [ CIA-21 ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k ] [ valentin]
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18:55 < rxr> hi emte__
19:00 < CIA-21> rene * r22481 /trunk/package/x11/jwm/ (. jwm.cache jwm.desc): * added jwm (1.8) - Joe's Window Manager
19:01 < R4gnar0k> moin
19:02 < R4gnar0k> rxr: LOL !
19:03 < R4gnar0k> hmm so does it make more sense to substitute pnmtopng with exactimage ?
19:07 < rxr> exactimage has a different calling convention :-(
19:07 < rxr> R4gnar0k: trunk:HEAD just work on x86-64, now
19:07 < rxr> at least it does on my MacBook
19:07 < rxr> trunk:HEAD netpbm that is ...
19:07 < R4gnar0k> ah ok
19:08 < R4gnar0k> I`ll try
19:08 < rxr> but exact-image is easy to use anyway
19:08 < rxr> just -i for input and -o for output
19:08 < rxr> thus econvert -i some-file -o some-other-file
19:09 < rxr> or --input or --output ...
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19:09 < rxr> you even can write out multiple times ... like this:
19:10 < rxr> econvert -i some-fat-photo.jpg -o i-like-jpeg2000-more.jp2 --scale .33 -o thumbnail-medium.jpg --scale .33 -o really-tiny.jpg
19:10 < R4gnar0k> oh lol
19:10 < rxr> where in that case the classed in the hirarchy (exact-image is C++) will fast scale the JPEG by just partial unpacking the DCT ...
19:10 < R4gnar0k> nice :)
19:11 < rxr> oh - and --rotate 90|180|270 as well as --flip and --flop are lossless on JPEG:
19:11 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/exact-image/lossless-jpeg.html
19:12 < R4gnar0k> now how to intergate that in gallery2 ... lol
19:13 < rxr> at least it is integrated in the "pixgallery" I hacked up in my wordpress blog:
19:13 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/
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19:20 < rxr> tiny.jpg
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19:33 < misl> hi folks
19:34 < rxr> hi one
19:34 < rxr> moin misl, how do you do ?
19:34 < misl> hi rxr, I fine thanks :-)
19:34 < misl> how about you ?
19:35 < misl> How is the minix integration doing ?
19:36 < rxr> so done along the lines, some more important stuff on the current agenda
19:36 < rxr> minux3 has some implementation shortcummings anyway - I'm not sure it is too interesting in real world embedded applications due that
19:37 < rxr> but I'll definetly commit that before 7.0 as I want it as implementation example and Minix3 source is pretty compact anyway and thus quickly built
19:38 < misl> What shortcommings? They claim minix is especially usefull for embedded solutions.
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19:41 < rxr> their virtual memory management is very limitted
19:41 < rxr> also there is no support for "anonymous mapping" such as SWAP
19:42 < rxr> also no suppot for partitions over 2 or 4 GB, and so on and so on
19:43 < rxr> both also effect embedded applications as with point 1 when one process allocates too much memory it is killed immediatly and with point 2 you can not have larger datasets (such as map data etc.) or user audio / video ...
19:43 < rxr> for a "completely revisited" OS this is a bit lame ...
19:43 < rxr> oh - _and_ Minix has no support for the FPU
19:43 < rxr> there was a couple of more stuff - yes, I read half of the Minix3 book recently :-)
19:44 * misl wonders what Tanenbaum would say :-)
19:44 < rxr> he says he "does not care about floating point computations" :-)
19:44 < rxr> of course all of this is patchable
19:45 < rxr> though some would result in binary incompatibility with the vanilla Minix3 used for lecturing then ...
19:45 < misl> Have you had contact with him ?
19:45 < rxr> yes, but not regarding this topic
19:45 < rxr> that was his response to the topic when it came up in the comp.os.minix newsgroup :-)
19:46 < misl> hehe
19:47 < misl> So there is not much X-mas present left when undoing the wrappings ;-)
19:47 < rxr> well - I stil find it quite cool
19:47 < rxr> I even think about such a hacked-up minix would be pretty cool
19:47 < rxr> that where just the points that I found so far while going into the details ... :-)
19:51 < rxr> so - of for lunch and home-work
19:51 < rxr> cu then
19:56 < Stelz> cu rxr
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20:12 < sepp> hello :)
20:22 < Demian> hi sepp
20:22 < sepp> hi Demian :)
21:40 < R4gnar0k> hmmm why in mine not built statically? o_o
22:08 < CIA-21> ragnar * r22482 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/mine.desc: * mine: it's perfectly possible to build it with dietlibc :)
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00:14 < apache-chaos> ok cool
00:14 < apache-chaos> they said it was udev upgrade or something
00:14 < apache-chaos> hds labels switch to sda
00:15 < apache-chaos> for drives
00:15 < apache-chaos> and if your config files dont match your boot loader and fstab kaputt
00:15 < apache-chaos> kernel panic
00:16 < apache-chaos> when you leave t2 to install, does it sop lots of times to ask you X, so that you have to baby sit it?
00:17 < apache-chaos> stop
00:18 < sepp_> once it started extracting packages it does not ask, only for reboot once it is done
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01:10 < gak> including new kernel?
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02:46 < magic_user> hello
02:46 < magic_user> I created a /boot dir / and swap
02:46 < magic_user> am installing t2
02:47 < magic_user> and grub thinks root device is hda3 which is / not /boot
02:47 < magic_user> the idea is if the filesystem fills to be able to boot using small boot dir
02:47 < magic_user> does this make sense?
02:47 < magic_user> how can i make grub use hda1 the /boot dir as the boot device?
03:35 < magic_user> ?
03:38 < magic_user> will emerge-package pull a package from the internet?
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08:43 < Baldzius> moin
09:21 < rxr> moin
09:21 < rxr> magic_user: Emerge will build from the source out of the internet
09:21 < rxr> magic_user: the last time I checked our grub stone module worked with a seperate /boot
09:22 < rxr> magic_user: maybe a regression? you can manually tweak the /boot/grub/menu.lst ...
09:22 < CIA-21> aldas * r22459 /trunk/package/develop/php/ (CVE-2006-6383.patch php.desc):
09:22 < CIA-21> * updated php (5.2.0 -> 5.2.1)
09:22 < CIA-21> * removed CVE-2006-6383.patch - obsolete
09:22 < CIA-21> * security update
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10:22 < CIA-21> rene * r22460 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * updated libuninum (1.2 -> 2.1)
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10:23 < sepp> moin :)
10:26 < rxr> moin moin sepp
10:27 < sepp> moin rxr :)
10:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22461 /trunk/package/textproc/msort/msort.desc: * updated msort (8.35 -> 8.37)
10:31 < CIA-21> rene * r22462 /trunk/package/develop/libuninum/libuninum.desc: * removed libuninum compile hack, apperas to be properly fixed upstream, now
11:03 < CIA-21> aldas * r22465 /trunk/package/database/phppgadmin/phppgadmin.desc: * updated phppgadmin (4.0.1 -> 4.1)
11:04 < CIA-21> rene * r22463 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (1.0.6 -> 1.2.1.1), updated Url tags and tweaked build Priority
11:17 < CIA-21> aldas * r22464 /trunk/package/mail/courier-authlib/courier-authlib.desc: * updated courier-authlib (0.59 -> 0.59.1)
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11:29 < CIA-21> rene * r22466 /trunk/package/gpe/gpe-calculator/gpe-calculator.desc: * changed gpe-calculator build priority (203.900 -> 209.900) and fixed it to honor the $prefix
11:31 < CIA-21> susan * r22467 /trunk/package/gpe/libgpelaunch/ (. libgpelaunch.cache libgpelaunch.desc): * added libgpelaunch (0.14) - GPE launch control library
11:32 < rxr> PHP 5.2.1 stopft Sicherheitslücken
11:36 < sepp> haha
11:36 < sepp> :)
11:42 < rxr> guess haha due to the overal insecurity of php ?
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11:46 < sepp> yup
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11:47 < sepp> sounds like 3 gazillion - 1 holes now
11:50 < rxr> heh
11:51 < rxr> Btw. Linux Magazine gave the Archivist Scan Box solution a test spin, including mentioning T2 :-)
11:51 < rxr> yesterday's issue page 90+91
11:54 < sepp> :)
11:59 < CIA-21> rene * r22468 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: * also format the 2nd (unused) system partition during the archivista installation
12:01 < CIA-21> rene * r22469 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc:
12:01 < CIA-21> * updated scribus Url and Text tags, including removal of commercial product
12:01 < CIA-21> names in favour of more textual description
12:38 < CIA-21> susan * r22471 /trunk/package/gpe/libschedule/ (. libschedule.cache libschedule.desc): * added libschedule (0.16) - Provides a lowlevel interface for alarm event scheduling
12:47 < CIA-21> susan * r22470 /trunk/package/gpe/libxsettings-client/ (. libxsettings-client.cache libxsettings-client.desc): * added libxsettings-client (0.17) - Common XSETTINGS client code
13:07 < rxr> so - lunch
13:07 < rxr> cu
13:09 < CIA-21> rene * r22472 /trunk/package/gpe/ (13 files in 11 dirs):
13:09 < CIA-21> * tweaked gpe Priority tags due failurs in the reference build
13:09 < CIA-21> * fixed libsoundgen to install it's headers and gpe-announce to install in $prefix
13:09 < CIA-21> * updated gpe .cache files when they had an ERROR mark or where missing
14:07 < rxr> re
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14:34 < rxr> :-( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54227
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15:04 < rxr> R4gnar0k: netpbm is really rather ugly, I knew from the API side already - and that is why I canned it in ExactImage - but the configure is the next ugly beast of it :-(
15:06 < CIA-21> rene * r22475 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/ (netpbm.conf netpbm.desc):
15:06 < CIA-21> * updated netpbm (10.33 -> 10.34), plus required config adaptions -
15:06 < CIA-21> appears to fix netpbm runtime on x86-64
15:10 < rxr> oh damn
15:11 < rxr> R4gnar0k: oh damn - this netpbm maintainer does not spin tarballs anymore, instead on has to grab from the new SVN - this would not be a problem - if this person would know how to use SVN !?!?!?!? - je just throws all into a stable sub-dir instead of doing tags ...
15:11 * rxr headshake ...
15:19 < CIA-21> rene * r22473 /trunk/package/graphic/magicpoint/magicpoint.desc: * updated magicpoint (1.11b -> 1.12a)
15:19 < CIA-21> rene * r22474 /trunk/package/multimedia/mjpegtools/ (hotfix_libquicktime.patch mjpegtools.desc): * updated mjpegtools (1.8.0 -> 1.9.0rc1)
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16:30 < CIA-21> rene * r22476 /trunk/package/develop/fpc/fpc.desc: * updated fpc (2.0.0 -> 2.0.4)
16:38 < CIA-21> rene * r22477 /trunk/package/develop/fpc/fpc.conf: * fixed fpc to invoke make with the target all, as just make prints the usage
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16:45 < rxr> "Der deutsche Innenminister Schäuble hat jetzt anscheinend einen kompletten Realitätsverlust erlitten, denn Heise meldet mit Verweis auf ein taz-Interview: »Schäuble: Trojaner sollen auch private Tagebücher durchsuchen« -- damit meint Schäuble allerdings nicht Blogs sondern Tagebücher, die die Terroristen auf Ihrer Festplatte z.B. im Word-Format gespeichert haben. Und weil Terroristen wissen, dass das Gesetz das Eindringen in den "Kernbereichs privater Lebensführung" nicht erlaubt, würden sie das schamlos ausnutzen und deswegen müsste die Verfassung entsprechend abgeändert werden: »Verbrecher und Terroristen sind klug genug, so etwas auszunutzen. Die tarnen ihre Informationen dann zum Beispiel als Tagebucheintrag. So leicht dürfen wir es denen nicht machen.« so Schäuble."
16:45 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/articles/07/02/09/1244255.shtml
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16:47 < CIA-21> pfister * r22478 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/clear-archive.sh: Delete documents and folders
16:54 < rxr> lol: "Für das Sommerloch ist es nun doch noch ein wenig zu früh! Es ist heute zu leicht geworden, Politiker zu werden! Statt einer 5-Prozent-Hürde wäre vielleicht ein Intelligenztest (oder vielleicht eher Realitätstest) angebracht :-( "
16:55 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/comments.pl?sid=07/02/09/1244255&cid=6
16:59 < rxr> http://www.taz.de/pt/2007/02/08/a0169.1/text
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18:16 < CIA-21> rene * r22480 /trunk/package/x11/xfe/ (. xfe.cache xfe.desc): * added xfe (0.98) - A file manager for the X Window System
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18:55 < rxr> hi emte__
19:00 < CIA-21> rene * r22481 /trunk/package/x11/jwm/ (. jwm.cache jwm.desc): * added jwm (1.8) - Joe's Window Manager
19:01 < R4gnar0k> moin
19:02 < R4gnar0k> rxr: LOL !
19:03 < R4gnar0k> hmm so does it make more sense to substitute pnmtopng with exactimage ?
19:07 < rxr> exactimage has a different calling convention :-(
19:07 < rxr> R4gnar0k: trunk:HEAD just work on x86-64, now
19:07 < rxr> at least it does on my MacBook
19:07 < rxr> trunk:HEAD netpbm that is ...
19:07 < R4gnar0k> ah ok
19:08 < R4gnar0k> I`ll try
19:08 < rxr> but exact-image is easy to use anyway
19:08 < rxr> just -i for input and -o for output
19:08 < rxr> thus econvert -i some-file -o some-other-file
19:09 < rxr> or --input or --output ...
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19:09 < rxr> you even can write out multiple times ... like this:
19:10 < rxr> econvert -i some-fat-photo.jpg -o i-like-jpeg2000-more.jp2 --scale .33 -o thumbnail-medium.jpg --scale .33 -o really-tiny.jpg
19:10 < R4gnar0k> oh lol
19:10 < rxr> where in that case the classed in the hirarchy (exact-image is C++) will fast scale the JPEG by just partial unpacking the DCT ...
19:10 < R4gnar0k> nice :)
19:11 < rxr> oh - and --rotate 90|180|270 as well as --flip and --flop are lossless on JPEG:
19:11 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/exact-image/lossless-jpeg.html
19:12 < R4gnar0k> now how to intergate that in gallery2 ... lol
19:13 < rxr> at least it is integrated in the "pixgallery" I hacked up in my wordpress blog:
19:13 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/
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19:20 < rxr> tiny.jpg
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19:33 < misl> hi folks
19:34 < rxr> hi one
19:34 < rxr> moin misl, how do you do ?
19:34 < misl> hi rxr, I fine thanks :-)
19:34 < misl> how about you ?
19:35 < misl> How is the minix integration doing ?
19:36 < rxr> so done along the lines, some more important stuff on the current agenda
19:36 < rxr> minux3 has some implementation shortcummings anyway - I'm not sure it is too interesting in real world embedded applications due that
19:37 < rxr> but I'll definetly commit that before 7.0 as I want it as implementation example and Minix3 source is pretty compact anyway and thus quickly built
19:38 < misl> What shortcommings? They claim minix is especially usefull for embedded solutions.
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19:41 < rxr> their virtual memory management is very limitted
19:41 < rxr> also there is no support for "anonymous mapping" such as SWAP
19:42 < rxr> also no suppot for partitions over 2 or 4 GB, and so on and so on
19:43 < rxr> both also effect embedded applications as with point 1 when one process allocates too much memory it is killed immediatly and with point 2 you can not have larger datasets (such as map data etc.) or user audio / video ...
19:43 < rxr> for a "completely revisited" OS this is a bit lame ...
19:43 < rxr> oh - _and_ Minix has no support for the FPU
19:43 < rxr> there was a couple of more stuff - yes, I read half of the Minix3 book recently :-)
19:44 * misl wonders what Tanenbaum would say :-)
19:44 < rxr> he says he "does not care about floating point computations" :-)
19:44 < rxr> of course all of this is patchable
19:45 < rxr> though some would result in binary incompatibility with the vanilla Minix3 used for lecturing then ...
19:45 < misl> Have you had contact with him ?
19:45 < rxr> yes, but not regarding this topic
19:45 < rxr> that was his response to the topic when it came up in the comp.os.minix newsgroup :-)
19:46 < misl> hehe
19:47 < misl> So there is not much X-mas present left when undoing the wrappings ;-)
19:47 < rxr> well - I stil find it quite cool
19:47 < rxr> I even think about such a hacked-up minix would be pretty cool
19:47 < rxr> that where just the points that I found so far while going into the details ... :-)
19:51 < rxr> so - of for lunch and home-work
19:51 < rxr> cu then
19:56 < Stelz> cu rxr
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20:12 < sepp> hello :)
20:22 < Demian> hi sepp
20:22 < sepp> hi Demian :)
21:40 < R4gnar0k> hmmm why in mine not built statically? o_o
22:08 < CIA-21> ragnar * r22482 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/mine.desc: * mine: it's perfectly possible to build it with dietlibc :)
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