T2 IRC Log: 2006-11-05

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--- Log opened Sun Nov 05 00:00:21 2006
00:14 < Stelz> rxr: asleep?
00:25 < sepp> guess that means yes
00:54 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
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09:15 < misl> hi folks
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09:53 * Stelz is back (gone 08:58:27)
10:02 < Stelz> rxr: ping? :)
10:02 < Stelz> hi misl
10:03 < misl> hi Stelz
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10:52 < CIA-5> susan * r20669 /trunk/package/gnome2/gcalctool/gcalctool.desc: * updated gcalctool (5.8.24 -> 5.8.25)
10:56 < rxr> moin
10:56 < rxr> and pong
10:57 < Stelz> rxr:
10:57 < Stelz> embutils 0.18 released!
10:57 < Stelz> could u update embutils?..
10:58 < rxr> yeah
10:58 < Stelz> there is a lot of patches in that base/embutils dir.. :(
10:58 < rxr> when I wanted to update it the download url was invalid
10:58 < Stelz> yeah
10:58 < Stelz> they have a new url
10:58 < Stelz> and new site maybe
10:58 < Stelz> http://www.fefe.de/embutils/
10:59 < Stelz> and DL location is
10:59 < Stelz> http://dl.fefe.de/embutils-0.18.tar.bz2
10:59 < rxr> yesb
10:59 < Stelz> ddl.fefe.de
10:59 < Stelz> dl.fefe.de
10:59 < rxr> but when he released it the url of the embutils page was invalid
11:00 < Stelz> when u update it i could try it on my clear T2-build
11:04 < Stelz> rxr: is there any util to make unfocused windows transparent like this?
11:04 < Stelz> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/46153-1.jpg
11:05 < Stelz> i mean gtk+-2-programs
11:06 < rxr> Stelz: you need a X server with composite extension enabled and a window manager that does this
11:06 < rxr> and best a video chip that accelerates ARGB operations in hardware with an open source driver
11:06 < Stelz> uhuhu..
11:09 < sepp> what gtk+ theme is that?
11:09 < sepp> moin :)
11:12 < Stelz> sepp:
11:12 * Stelz :: Desktop @ [ http://slz.sytes.net/desktop.png ]
11:12 < Stelz> :)
11:12 < Stelz> moin
11:12 < sepp> moin Stelz
11:14 < CIA-5> rene * r20670 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.16 -> 1.17)
11:14 < CIA-5> rene * r20671 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (11 -> 12)
11:14 < Stelz> the name of this theme is "Neutronium" but i fixed a lot of that code :)
11:14 < sepp> well, *box is ok but i prefer e17 :)
11:15 * Stelz is waitin for 1.0 final release
11:15 < sepp> for e17?
11:15 < sepp> that will not happen *eg*
11:16 < sepp> but it is already very stable ...
11:17 < rxr> "very"
11:17 < rxr> sepp: you run the latest t2 snapshot of e17 ?
11:17 < rxr> sepp: they rewrote Evas RGBA handling to use premultiplied alpha
11:17 < sepp> yup, never crashed on my box
11:17 < rxr> sepp: if you have the time maybe test a snapshot from yesterday and see if everything works again ?
11:18 < Stelz> 13:10'11 | * Stelz is waitin for 1.0 final release
11:18 < Stelz> 13:10'27 | sepp> for e17?
11:18 < Stelz> sepp: for fluxbox :-)
11:18 < sepp> sure, if there is some real change and not just the normal little api change they do to break things
11:19 < sepp> ahh :)
11:19 < rxr> the premultiplied alpha thing is a bigger change and why I hesitate to update it :-)
11:19 < rxr> but I mostly only use Evs for my toys
11:19 < rxr> if you run it all your time might be worth tested the latest version
11:19 < sepp> i will try it later ,-)
11:21 < sepp> e17 looks very cool and is fast ... that is why i like it :)
11:22 < rxr> (on a 290MHz SPARC it is not fast ...)
11:22 < rxr> well - I would not use e17 for anything serious due to the ever changing API along
11:22 < rxr> but Evas alone is quite reasonable
11:23 < rxr> (though I think about dropping it and using another not so often changing canvas)
11:23 < sepp> yes, that is totally crazy
11:24 < rxr> e.g. http://www.antigrain.com/ <- as a base for my C++ abstracted Canvas
11:25 < valentin> nice !
11:25 < rxr> at least for some stuff Evas is not optimal and the ever changing nature not very developer friendly ...
11:25 < valentin> well. let's see how the api looks like first
11:25 < valentin> and evas is plain c
11:25 < rxr> valentin: yeah - too bad this stuff is more like Lua to embed into sources
11:25 < rxr> valentin: it has no Unix package to install into the system
11:26 < rxr> that is why t2 does not have it although I know it for some time ...
11:26 < rxr> another thing is this: http://www.amanith.org/
11:29 < valentin> is it open source ? then we can add an exactbuild to it
11:30 < rxr> to anti-grain ?
11:30 < rxr> well - thing is when T2 is the only dist shipping it there is not much value
11:30 < rxr> we can embed it inside our own exact-gui-canvas 1:1 then anyway as we need it there for building on non-T2 anyway
11:30 < valentin> i mean not only inside of t2
11:31 < rxr> yeah - but it has no value when noone is using that
11:31 < rxr> however we could convince the upstream folks to add a proper unix build/install system around
11:43 < CIA-5> rene * r20672 /trunk/package/graphic/gqview/gqview.desc: * updated gqview (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3)
11:44 < CIA-5> rene * r20673 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_net/libsdl_net.desc: * updated libsdl_net (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6)
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11:48 < Baldzius> moin
11:48 < rxr> moin Baldzius
11:49 < Stelz> hi Baldzius
11:49 < Baldzius> hi rxr Stelz
11:49 < sepp> hi Baldzius :)
11:49 < Baldzius> hi sepp :)
11:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/people.html
11:51 < rxr> ^- maybe comments what you wanna have on that page ?
11:51 [Users #t2]
11:51 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
11:51 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-5 ] [ misl ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
11:51 [ `axion_ ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ shevegen]
11:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
11:51 < rxr> misl: -^
11:51 < sepp> /var/cvs/e e17/libs/evas -D 2006-09-09 <- which 09 was the month again? i will never manage to remeber that ...
11:51 < Stelz> mm, nice, rxr
11:52 < Stelz> rxr: for the first maybe some info about location?
11:52 < rxr> Stelz: year month day
11:52 < sepp> ahh, thanks :)
11:52 < rxr> getting more and more fine grained to the right
11:52 < Stelz> rxr: this too :)
11:53 < rxr> sepp: at least I hope so
11:53 < Stelz> rxr: and nick in irc
11:53 < Stelz> some contact info maybe.. like jabber id
11:53 < rxr> Stelz: maybe you write some lines what info you would like to "export" as base
11:54 < rxr> and then we model the other and see how it goes ?
11:54 < Stelz> for everybody?
11:54 < Stelz> ah, ok
11:54 < Stelz> like a template, yea?
11:54 < rxr> no - you write yours and then we model the others
11:54 < Stelz> yeh
11:54 < rxr> also interesting: main working field in t2
11:54 < rxr> and: CPU architectures at hand
11:54 < Stelz> yup :)
11:54 < Stelz> yup yup :)
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12:11 < Stelz> hi kensai
12:11 < kensai> hey!!!
12:11 < rxr> hi kensai
12:11 < rxr> Stelz: do you have your people text ready ?
12:11 < kensai> :)
12:14 < Stelz> rxr: yeah
12:14 < Stelz> maybe smthng like this but with colors.. :)
12:15 < Stelz> http://slz.sytes.net/t2.html
12:17 < Stelz> with bold/underlined text, etc.
12:17 < Stelz> like "Detailed info:" may be underlined
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12:18 < Stelz> and make it without
 but with 
  • tags
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    12:24 < Stelz> rxr: http://slz.sytes.net/t2.html <- completely done :)
    12:24 < Stelz> just add some colors to the menu items.. or so
    12:28 < sepp> Stelz: how do you use neutronium theme without gnome theme selector or so ?
    12:28 < sepp> i don't know where to put all the files :/
    12:28 < Stelz> ah, sepp. i use gtk-chtheme
    12:28 < Stelz> but sepp
    12:29 < Stelz> but the dir of the theme into /usr/share/themes
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    12:29 < sepp> that means change theme ?
    12:29 < Stelz> nope.. that means u have the theme installed
    12:30 < Stelz> 14:24'12 | Stelz> but the dir of the theme into /usr/share/themes <- err, *put :-)
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    12:31 < rxr> Stelz: embutils update ready in some seconds
    12:31 < Stelz> good!
    12:32 < sepp> ./scripts/Find-Pkg gtk-chtheme - nothing :)
    12:32 < Stelz> ehh sepp
    12:34 < sepp> ?
    12:34 < Stelz> i just built this pkg from source
    12:34 < Stelz> http://plasmasturm.org/code/gtk-chtheme/gtk-chtheme-0.3.1.tar.bz2
    12:35 < rxr> Stelz: best add everything you build from source as t2 package .-)
    12:35 < CIA-5> rene * r20674 /trunk/package/base/embutils/ (8 files):
    12:35 < CIA-5> * updated embutils (0.17 -> 0.18), rediffed many patches on the way
    12:35 < CIA-5> and cleaned non-DIET-CROSS build.patch
    12:36 < Stelz> yeah, rxr :)
    12:37 < Stelz> rxr: i'll make a lot of work when i'll build my T2-megaminimal-with-megaminimal-xorg-box :)
    12:38 * rxr thinking about cloning tomsrtbt into t2
    12:38 < Stelz> tomsrtbt?
    12:39 < rxr> some very minimal linux
    12:39 < Stelz> :)
    12:39 < rxr> quite well know exists since some time
    12:46 < Stelz> == 14:40:56 =[1]=> Building base/embutils [0.18 7.0-trunk].
    12:46 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/people.html
    12:46 < Stelz> --- BUILD ERROR ---
    12:47 < Stelz> rxr: new embutils failed
    12:49 < rxr> .ouh
    12:49 < rxr> error ?
    12:49 < Stelz> wait a sec
    12:49 < Stelz> rebuilding
    12:49 < sepp> no dietlibc :)
    12:49 < Stelz> what the hell
    12:49 < Stelz> sync.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
    12:49 < Stelz> sync.c:2:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory
    12:49 < Stelz> sync.c:3:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory
    12:49 < Stelz> .oO
    12:50 < rxr> did the last version build for you ?
    12:52 < Stelz> 0.17 ?
    12:52 < Stelz> nope
    12:52 < Stelz> it had some other errs
    12:54 < Stelz> == 14:49:18 =[1]=> Building base/embutils [0.18 7.0-trunk].
    12:55 < Stelz> ahm. that err was my fault, fixed
    12:55 < Stelz> rxr: look
    12:55 < Stelz> env.c: In function 'main':
    12:55 < Stelz> env.c:20: error: 'environ' undeclared (first use in this function)
    12:55 < Stelz> env.c:20: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
    12:55 < Stelz> env.c:20: error: for each function it appears in.)
    12:55 < Stelz> make: *** [bin/env.o] Error 1
    12:56 < Stelz> thats an error i got yeasterday
    12:58 < Stelz> 14:41'20 | rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/people.html <- prefect ;-) u may add my e-mail, just forgot it.. stelzy@gmail.com
    13:01 < Stelz> and also we may add submenu for it
    13:01 < Stelz> like for releases
    13:01 < Stelz> # Releases
    13:01 < Stelz> * T2 6.0
    13:01 < Stelz> * T2 2.1
    13:01 < Stelz> it can be like this:
    13:01 < Stelz> # About
    13:01 < Stelz> * Team
    13:02 < Stelz> i'm about menu on left side of site :-)
    13:02 < Stelz> *on the
    13:03 < rxr> Stelz: reload
    13:03 < Stelz> ehm seems to be u forgot to close some tags
    13:04 < rxr> oh yeah
    13:04 < rxr> fixed
    13:05 < Stelz> hmm.. not fixed
    13:05 < Stelz> still 5 unclsed tags
    13:05 < Stelz> *unclosed
    13:05 < rxr> really - hm
    13:05 < Stelz> err, 6
    13:05 < Stelz> rxr: at the end
    13:05 < rxr> ok - I throw it thru w3c in some minutes
    13:06 < Stelz> <
    13:06 < Stelz> Miguel Bolanos:
    13:06 < Stelz> <
    13:06 < Stelz> Martin Baum:
    13:06 < Stelz> etc.
    13:06 < Stelz> the last six
    13:06 < Stelz>
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  • 13:06 < Stelz> 13:06 < Stelz> the last six
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      13:06 < Stelz> u c ?
      13:07 < rxr> ah - thanks
      13:07 < rxr> reload
      13:08 < Stelz> yeah, rxr thats right. could u add my email there? :)
      13:08 < Stelz> if it wont be spammed with spam bots all over the web :-)
      13:10 < Stelz> and we can may add an item to the main menu @ site
      13:10 < Stelz> http://www.t2-project.org/about.html <- here
      13:10 < Stelz> i mean, submenu-item
      13:10 < rxr> I even wanted to place it on the top-level menu
      13:10 < Stelz> uhm..
      13:10 < Stelz> ok
      13:10 < rxr> no ?
      13:11 < Stelz> rxr: i think it's better for "About" :-)
      13:12 < Stelz> like "SVN commit tutorial" must be in "SVN write access"
      13:12 < Stelz> but not on top-level menu (imho)
      13:13 < rxr> yeah - special your 2nd note is good
      13:20 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/people.html
      13:20 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/svn-access.html
      13:21 < Stelz> yeah, great! :-)
      13:21 * rxr triggering manual regen of all pages
      13:21 < rxr> due to the new submenues
      13:21 < Stelz> yu
      13:21 < Stelz> p
      13:22 < Stelz> like "SVN commit tutorial" on main-page
      13:22 < Stelz> hehe and mainmenu is now more compact :-)
      13:23 < rxr> regen running
      13:23 < rxr> with the over 2500 package pages this takes some time ...
      13:23 < rxr> (on the not really decent server ...)
      13:23 < Stelz> :)
      13:23 < rxr> 1GHz Athlon
      13:24 < Stelz> rxr: what's about that err?
      13:24 < Stelz> did you build embutils 0.18 ?
      13:24 < Stelz> i686-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -pipe -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -c env.c -o bin/env.o
      13:24 < Stelz> env.c: In function 'main':
      13:24 < Stelz> env.c:20: error: 'environ' undeclared (first use in this function)
      13:24 < Stelz> env.c:20: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
      13:24 < Stelz> env.c:20: error: for each function it appears in.)
      13:24 < Stelz> make: *** [bin/env.o] Error 1
      13:25 < rxr> yes
      13:25 < rxr> maybe embutils only builds with dietlibc ...
      13:25 < rxr> in your glibc only target you also do not really need embutils
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      13:30 < Stelz> but rxr !
      13:30 < Stelz> embutils is needed to build ISO!
      13:32 < rxr> ohem
      13:33 < rxr> our usual code is optimized to work with dietlibc in the initrd pathes
      13:33 < rxr> you said you need no initrd
      13:33 < rxr> our installer images will not work with that anyway
      13:33 < rxr> what do you want to do with your target? install via CD or just 1:1 on your computer ?
      13:34 < Stelz> "install via CD"..
      13:34 < Stelz> i just want to install a fully-functional installation iso
      13:35 < Stelz> ehm
      13:35 < Stelz> i just want to build a fully-functional installation iso
      13:35 < rxr> if you don't want to write your own installer you better enable dietlibc then :-)
      13:35 < Stelz> .oO
      13:35 * Stelz killed
      13:36 < rxr> ?
      13:36 < Stelz> rxr: could i use dietlibc but remove glibc?
      13:37 < rxr> ehrm - not for a desktop system
      13:37 < rxr> but dietlibc is really very tiny
      13:37 < rxr> it is just some hunderd kB and builds within minutes
      13:39 < Stelz> hm.. ok
      13:39 < Stelz> i'll enable it
      13:39 < Stelz> rxr: linux26 binary-pkg fails
      13:40 < Stelz> cause of that "-dist"-removal patch
      13:43 < Stelz> rxr: to build an install-iso i need: "X dietlibc, X mkinitrd" ?
      13:54 < rxr> yes
      13:54 < rxr> and pdksh
      13:55 < rxr> but you could also write your own installer anyway
      13:55 < rxr> especially as our current one is not too pretty
      13:55 < shevegen> :)
      14:02 < rxr> ok - lunch
      14:02 < rxr> cu later
      14:13 < Stelz> cu rxr
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      15:12 < Stelz> ok rxr
      15:13 < Stelz> i decided to dev an installer.. dunno how, but it'll be good, if i'll make it work :)
      15:13 < misl> hi folks
      15:14 < Stelz> rehi, misl
      15:14 < misl> :)
      15:14 < Stelz> misl: http://www.t2-project.org/people.html <- did u c our new page? :)
      15:15 < misl> Stelz: I did, but still have to come up with personal info :-)
      15:15 < Stelz> :)
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      16:43 < sepp> hello :)
      16:43 < Stelz> rehi sepp
      16:43 < Stelz> sepp: http://www.t2-project.org/people.html <- did u c our new page? :)
      16:43 < Stelz> :)
      16:44 < sepp> yup ,-)
      16:44 < Stelz> goodie
      16:44 < sepp> running yesterday e17
      16:47 < Baldzius> sepp: going to update it on trunk?
      16:48 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.58.84] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
      16:48 < CIA-5> msluis * r20675 /trunk/package/java/ (12 files in 12 dirs): * Distinguish [I] tags of the various Java JRE/JDK's.
      16:48 < sepp> Baldzius: if it will not explode in the next few h, yes
      16:48 < Baldzius> :)
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      16:49 < sepp> obvious all my old config files are trash (again) :/
      16:51 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.58.84] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
      16:51 < sepp> well, edisplay is still working ...
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      17:43 < rxr> re
      17:44 < Stelz> rehi
      17:51 < rxr> misl: thanks that you commited the java changes atomic, I really appreciate this
      17:52 < CIA-5> rene * r20676 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.17 -> 1.18)
      17:52 < rxr> sepp: so yesterdays e17 runs smoothly as usual ?
      17:57 < misl> rxr: you're welcome :-)
      18:01 < CIA-5> rene * r20677 /trunk/package/network/ncp/ (ncp.conf ncp.desc): * polished ncp.{desc.conf}
      18:02 < sepp> rxr: yes, seems to work fine
      18:02 < sepp> only embrace failed, but i get this is one more dead project
      18:02 < sepp> last ci jan-06 ...
      18:05 < rxr> yeah - rm ...
      18:05 < rxr> maybe you feel like comitting the rest
      18:06 * rxr curious if my Evas based stuff still looks correct and needs API call adaptions after the ALPHA-premul changes ...
      18:06 < rxr> I hope they at least incremented the internal version ...
      18:06 < rxr> (so my configure can detect it ...)
      18:12 < CIA-5> sebastian * r20678 /trunk/package/e17/ (38 files in 35 dirs): (log message trimmed)
      18:12 < CIA-5> * updated evidence (2006-09-09 -> 2006-11-04) - added evas_api.patch
      18:12 < CIA-5> * updated etk (2006-09-09 -> 2006-11-04)
      18:12 < CIA-5> * updated examine (2006-09-09 -> 2006-11-04)
      18:12 < CIA-5> * updated engage (2006-09-09 -> 2006-11-04)
      18:12 < CIA-5> * updated envision (2006-09-09 -> 2006-11-04)
      18:12 < CIA-5> * updated e-modules (2006-09-09 -> 2006-11-04)
      18:26 < CIA-5> rene * r20679 /trunk/target/router/: * removed the very obsolete router target, people still try to build it :-(
      18:28 < CIA-5> rene * r20680 /trunk/target/desktop/ (README desktop.txt): * renamed desktop/desktop.txt to desktop/README
      18:35 < CIA-5> rene * r20681 /trunk/target/t2rtbt/ (8 files):
      18:35 < CIA-5> * added new t2rtbt target, the base of a tomsrtbt a-like minimal Linux
      18:35 < CIA-5> flavour - just 4 years newer than the original :-)
      18:35 < rxr> damn this Core Duo's are so darn fast ...
      18:39 < sepp> :)
      18:43 < rxr> too bad I have to sponsor Intel with the new Apple hardware :-(
      18:44 < rxr> I would like a Turion64 x2 way more in a Laptop
      18:44 < rxr> especially due to the 64bit extension ...
      18:58 < emte> ... e17 is far from a dead project
      18:58 < emte> its had some large changes in the last few months tho
      18:58 < emte> gadcon additions and they are getting rid of the modules
      18:59 < emte> as well as a new physics library
      18:59 < rxr> emte: sepp only wrote one thing is dead
      18:59 < rxr> 18:02 < sepp> only embrace failed, but i get this is one more dead project
      18:59 < rxr> 18:02 < sepp> last ci jan-06 ...
      18:59 < emte> could be, embrace is not a core product
      19:00 < emte> those as well are being moved out of e17's core repo
      19:00 < emte> being moved to get-e i belive
      19:01 < sepp> they do not remove dead things from cvs, they just keep them to confuse ppl :)
      19:02 < emte> no they are being moved out to clean things up
      19:02 < emte> raster does not want 3rd party stuff in the core repo any more
      19:02 < emte> too many complaints about broken and unmaintained issues
      19:03 < emte> time for some breakfast
      19:03 < emte> :)
      19:03 < rxr> guess we have a 3rd or so E17 freak here then :-)
      19:03 < rxr> welcome!
      19:04 < Stelz> :)
      19:05 < sepp> :-)
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      19:06 [ `axion_ ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
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      19:20 < CIA-5> rene * r20682 /trunk/target/t2rtbt/pkgsel: * removed mktemp and time from the t2rtbt target, they are included in embutils
      19:21 < Stelz> hehe rxr
      19:21 < Stelz> making megaminimal target like mine? ;-)
      19:22 < rxr> Stelz: nope - that one is Ultra minimal
      19:22 < rxr> 2MB or so - no X et all
      19:22 < Stelz> uh
      19:22 < Stelz> :)
      19:22 < rxr> we have this in the embedded form alreary
      19:22 < Stelz> aa.. i c
      19:22 < rxr> I just wanted to model tomsrtbt with modern components in T2
      19:53 < shevegen> tomsrtbt?
      19:54 < sepp> a rescue disk
      19:54 < sepp> was 2 floppies or so
      19:56 < rxr> yeah - one
      19:56 < Stelz> rxr:
      19:57 < Stelz> any hook before building binary package?
      19:57 < Stelz> i added these 2 strings:
      19:58 < Stelz> hook_add premake 1 "slz_reversion"
      19:58 < Stelz> hook_add finish 1 "slz_reversion"
      19:58 < Stelz> is it ok?
      19:59 < rxr> you just should need the first line
      20:00 < Stelz> rxr: ok, but why tar packs 2.6.18.5-dist dir?
      20:03 < CIA-5> rene * r20683 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
      20:03 < CIA-5> * improved dietlibc to patch lua
      20:03 < CIA-5> * fixed lua for cross builds
      20:03 < CIA-5> * cleaned lua.desc spacing and COPYright patch
      20:04 < rxr> Stelz: I don't know look in the log file to see where the filenames comes from
      20:10 < CIA-5> rene * r20684 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ (parse-config-9 patches/pkg_iptables.patch): * adapted dietlibc iptables tweaking for latest iptables
      20:11 < CIA-5> rene * r20685 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9: * fixed space vs. tab in dietlibc/parse-config-9
      20:12 < Stelz> == 11/05/06 22:07:08 =[0]=> Finished building package linux-header.
      20:12 < Stelz> nice
      20:13 < Stelz> oh
      20:13 < Stelz> :(
      20:14 < Stelz> rxr: your script doesnt work for linux-header
      20:14 < Stelz> :(
      20:23 < CIA-5> luca * r20686 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/gcc-4.1.1-header.patch:
      20:23 < CIA-5> Luca Piol
      20:23 < CIA-5> * Fixes a compilation issue with gcc-4.1.1
      20:27 < CIA-5> rene * r20687 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-rendition/xf86-video-rendition.desc: * updated xf86-video-rendition (4.1.1 -> 4.1.2)
      20:27 < rxr> ok - off home
      20:27 < rxr> cu
      20:28 < Stelz> cu rxr
      20:29 < rxr> cu Stelz - cu all
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      20:36 < sepp> hi LMJ_Work
      20:38 -!- LMJ_Work [n=52e06b69@64.251.30.244] has quit ["CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)"]
      20:39 < sepp> hehe
      20:39 < Stelz> lol
      20:42 -!- LMJ_Work [n=52e06b69@64.251.30.244] has joined #t2
      20:45 < Stelz> moin moin LMJ_Work
      20:47 -!- LMJ_Work [n=52e06b69@64.251.30.244] has quit ["CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)"]
      20:48 < Stelz> haha
      20:48 < sepp> :D
      20:48 < Stelz> :D
      20:48 < Stelz> he laughs at us
      20:48 -!- LMJ [n=LMJ@82.224.107.105] has joined #t2
      20:48 < LMJ> Hello guys
      20:48 < Stelz> lol
      20:48 < Stelz> moin moin LMJ
      20:49 < LMJ> moin moin sepp, Stelz & rxr
      20:49 < LMJ> german people should not play with electricity ;)
      20:49 < sepp> yup
      20:49 < sepp> lol
      20:49 < LMJ> did you get the blackout too sepp ?
      20:49 < sepp> no but i read what the heros did
      20:50 < LMJ> first of all, i through my girlfriend pluged again the vacuum cleaner on my small computer UPS
      20:50 < LMJ> :-D
      20:50 < sepp> hehe
      20:51 < LMJ> anyway, something wrong with my Internet computer
      20:51 < LMJ> let me write it down
      20:54 < Stelz> LMJ:
      20:54 < Stelz> did u c our new page?
      20:54 < LMJ> no, where ,
      20:54 < LMJ> ?
      20:54 < Stelz> http://www.t2-project.org/people.html
      20:54 < Stelz> ;-)
      20:55 < LMJ> hello Vlad ;)
      20:55 < Stelz> hi :)
      20:55 < LMJ> nice
      20:55 < LMJ> core team ;)
      20:57 < LMJ> here is my problem : http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lipKZY23.html
      20:58 * Stelz is off to take a shower
      20:58 < Stelz> cu later
      20:58 < LMJ> oki
      20:58 < LMJ> sepp, an idea to this problem ?
      20:59 < LMJ> fsck check is OK on all partition
      20:59 < LMJ> i forced it
      21:00 < sepp> and you can not mount it?
      21:00 < LMJ> i can mount it from a livecd
      21:01 < sepp> only looking with an half eye - have to write some stupid report :/
      21:01 < sepp> your / is corrupted?
      21:01 < LMJ> poor sepp ;) rapport for what ?
      21:01 < sepp> don't ask
      21:02 < LMJ> - / (/dev/hda1) and /home (/dev/hdb1) are ok on fsck
      21:02 < LMJ> heheh
      21:03 < sepp> and "/ (/dev/hda1)" has fsck on it?
      21:03 < LMJ> should be in /sbin right ?
      21:03 < sepp> yes
      21:07 < LMJ> sulogin & fsck are here
      21:07 < LMJ> size looks correct
      21:10 < LMJ> what is "restoresymtable" file in / ? 20MB
      21:11 < LMJ> sound like a dump/restore thing
      21:11 < LMJ> nothing in lost+found dir
      21:11 < sepp> don't know, raid?
      21:12 < LMJ> it's a dump file
      21:12 < LMJ> np
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      21:40 < LMJ> well, got to go for now, i hope i will be able to fix this problem tomorrow :-/
      21:40 < LMJ> Good night the chan
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      22:10 < emte> not sure about freak ... i've known raster since the end of e16/start e17
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      22:20 < sepp> :)
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