--- Log opened Thu Oct 19 00:00:02 2006 00:01 < martin_> so, nice dreams ... 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04:06 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD0F86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:09 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.139.67.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 04:23 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.185.124.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:23 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:46 < CIA-9> ragnar * r20269 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cairo/ (. perl-cairo.desc): * add perl-cairo, dependency for perl-gtk2 05:30 -!- PSt [n=Peter@p54BD487C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:32 * sparc-kly_ is away: tooo sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep 06:55 -!- PSt [n=Peter@p54BD1F58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 06:57 -!- PSt [n=Peter@p54BD1F58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 07:51 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Connection timed out] 07:53 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 09:07 < rxr> re 09:11 < _Ragnar_> hey :) 09:11 < _Ragnar_> !> ../include/GUI.hh: In member function 'void GSMP::App::Run()': 09:11 < _Ragnar_> !> ../include/GUI.hh:69: error: 'virtual void GSMP::GUI::Kit::Run(GSMP::App*)' is private 09:11 < _Ragnar_> in exact-audio :) 09:24 < rxr> yeah ignore it 09:25 < rxr> this is very very very old code 09:25 < rxr> (from GSMP) 09:25 < rxr> when exact-image handles CYMK and YUV image data I'll finally set off to convert the aging GSMP code to something more modern :-))) 09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r20270 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (0.6.7 -> 0.6.8) 09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r20271 /trunk/package/xorg/libxext/libxext.desc: * updated libxext (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2) 09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r20272 /trunk/package/xorg/libfontenc/libfontenc.desc: * updated libfontenc (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3) 09:37 < CIA-9> rene * r20273 /trunk/package/xorg/libice/libice.desc: * updated libice (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2) 09:37 < CIA-9> rene * r20274 /trunk/package/xorg/libsm/libsm.desc: * updated libsm (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2) 09:39 < CIA-9> rene * r20275 /trunk/package/base/sdparm/sdparm.desc: * updated sdparm (0.99 -> 1.00) 09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20278 /trunk/package/xorg/libxpm/libxpm.desc: * updated libxpm (3.5.5 -> 3.5.6) 09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20276 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.10 -> 2.02.12) 09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20277 /trunk/package/xorg/libxt/libxt.desc: * updated libxt (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3) 09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20279 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfixes/libxfixes.desc: * updated libxfixes (4.0.1 -> 4.0.2) 09:44 < CIA-9> rene * r20280 /trunk/package/xorg/libxcomposite/libxcomposite.desc: * updated libxcomposite (0.3 -> 0.3.1) 09:44 < CIA-9> rene * r20281 /trunk/package/xorg/libxrender/libxrender.desc: * updated libxrender (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2) 09:45 < CIA-9> rene * r20282 /trunk/package/xorg/libxcursor/libxcursor.desc: * updated libxcursor (1.1.7 -> 1.1.8) 09:45 < CIA-9> rene * r20283 /trunk/package/xorg/libxevie/libxevie.desc: * updated libxevie (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2) 09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r20284 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfont/libxfont.desc: * updated libxfont (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3) 09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r20285 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfontcache/libxfontcache.desc: * updated libxfontcache (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3) 09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r20286 /trunk/package/xorg/libxft/libxft.desc: * updated libxft (2.1.10 -> 2.1.11) 09:50 < CIA-9> rene * r20287 /trunk/package/xorg/libxkbfile/libxkbfile.desc: * updated libxkbfile (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4) 09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r20288 /trunk/package/xorg/libxrandr/libxrandr.desc: * updated libxrandr (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2) 09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r20289 /trunk/package/xorg/libxres/libxres.desc: * updated libxres (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2) 09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r20290 /trunk/package/xorg/libxscrnsaver/libxscrnsaver.desc: * updated libxscrnsaver (1.1.0 -> 1.1.1) 09:55 [Users #t2] 09:55 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ triel ] 09:55 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ sepp_ ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 09:55 [ Baldzius] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_] [ th ] [ zod ] 09:55 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 09:55 < CIA-9> rene * r20291 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.2.3 -> 0.2.4) 10:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20292 /trunk/package/network/licq/ (compile-fix.patch gcc41.patch licq.desc): * updated licq (1.3.2 -> 1.3.4) 10:11 < CIA-9> rene * r20293 /trunk/package/base/ (lvm/lvm.desc lvm2/lvm2.desc): 10:11 < CIA-9> * marked lvm2 to build by default and lvm to not build by default (as 10:11 < CIA-9> it should already be for some time now ...) 10:19 < CIA-9> rene * r20294 /trunk/package/mail/libetpan/libetpan.desc: * updated libetpan (0.46 -> 0.47) 10:28 < rxr> tis updates do not build right now: 10:28 < rxr> M package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc 10:28 < rxr> M package/filesystem/coda/coda.desc 10:28 < rxr> M package/multimedia/klear/klear.desc 10:28 < rxr> just in case someone wants to pick one of those ... 10:28 * rxr off in some seconds 10:30 < rxr> and and xen 3.0.3 10:30 < rxr> cu then - me off a bit 11:57 < mtr> moin 12:14 < Baldzius> moin mtr, rxr 12:44 * Stelz is back (gone 13:42:57) 12:47 < CIA-9> aldas * r20295 /branches/6.0/package/kde/kdevelop/kdevelop.desc: 12:47 < CIA-9> * merged r19888 from trunk to branches/6.0: 12:47 < CIA-9> removed outdated version references in kdevelop.desc 12:48 < mtr> hi Baldzius 12:49 < CIA-9> aldas * r20296 /branches/6.0/package/kde/kdesdk/kdesdk.desc: 12:49 < CIA-9> * merged r19889 from trunk to branches/6.0: 12:49 < CIA-9> replaced the generic KDE text in kdesdk and added a reference to 12:49 < CIA-9> Umbrello so people can find it with Find-Pkg 12:57 < CIA-9> aldas * r20297 /branches/6.0/ (24 files in 24 dirs): (log message trimmed) 12:57 < CIA-9> * merged r20130 from trunk to branches/6.0: 12:57 < CIA-9> updated kde (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5), including: 12:57 < CIA-9> updated kdegames (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5) 12:57 < CIA-9> updated kdebindings (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5) 12:57 < CIA-9> updated kde-i18n-es (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5) 12:58 < CIA-9> updated kde-i18n-it (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5) 13:07 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:29 < rxr> re 13:30 < Stelz> re rxr 13:40 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has joined #t2 13:47 < CIA-9> rene * r20298 /trunk/package/network/asterisk/asterisk.desc: * updated asterisk (1.2.12.1 -> 1.2.13) - SECURITY 13:49 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.80] has joined #t2 13:50 [Users #t2] 13:50 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_ ] [ th ] [ zod] 13:50 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ triel ] 13:50 [ Baldzius] [ kensai] [ sepp_] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 13:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 13:50 < rxr> Baldzius: kdelibs also needs some patch for a SECURITY glitch 13:50 < rxr> but I can not find it right now ... 13:51 < Baldzius> rxr: looks like it is only for 3.1.x 13:54 < Baldzius> anyway there are no official patches 13:55 < rxr> yeah - found no patch beside red hat srpm either 13:56 < Baldzius> i have a huge doubt that 3.5.5 is vulnerable 13:59 < CIA-9> aldas * r20299 /branches/6.0/package/filesystem/squashfs-tools/pkg_linux_pre.conf: 13:59 < CIA-9> * merged r19863 from trunk to branches/6.0: 13:59 < CIA-9> improved squashfs patch status printout to include the version 13:59 < CIA-9> for the sake of consistency with the other linux patchers 14:34 < CIA-9> aldas * r20300 /branches/6.0/target/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) 14:34 < CIA-9> * merged r19228 from trunk to branches/6.0: 14:34 < CIA-9> further improved the installer environment usability: create nvi -> 14:34 < CIA-9> vi and zile -> emacs symlinks if possible and enabled zile and nvi 14:34 < CIA-9> in the generic minimal package selections as well as the desktop 14:34 < CIA-9> target. Thus people have known editors for rescue tasks to the 14:34 < CIA-9> fingertips. Only enable the "fat" vim in the 50-minimal-deesktop 14:35 < CIA-9> aldas * r20301 /branches/6.0/target/share/install/build_stage2.sh: 14:35 < CIA-9> * merged r19229 from trunk to branches/6.0: 14:35 < CIA-9> added azerty layouts to the 2nd_stage install/rescue system 15:05 [Users #t2] 15:05 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_ ] [ th ] [ zod] 15:05 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ triel ] 15:05 [ Baldzius] [ kensai] [ sepp_] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 15:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 15:10 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.80] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:11 < CIA-9> aldas * r20302 /branches/6.0/target/share/install/init: 15:11 < CIA-9> * merged r19612 from trunk to branches/6.0: 15:11 < CIA-9> added a uniq written in sed to the install/init when it lists the 15:11 < CIA-9> 2nd_stage images from a http/ftp remote location (I tried that 15:11 < CIA-9> before but remember minised did not parse it, however it does, most 15:11 < CIA-9> probably I had a typo in the sed script at that time) 15:15 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.80] has joined #t2 16:04 -!- AMD [n=armin@p5499570D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:13 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 17:16 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:28 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has joined #t2 17:47 -!- LMJ [n=LMJ@82.224.107.105] has joined #t2 17:47 < LMJ> Hello the chan 17:47 < LMJ> moin moin 17:49 < Stelz> moin moin LMJ 17:50 < LMJ> moin moin Stelz 17:52 < LMJ> I think i killed my other PC with t2 on it :-((( 17:52 < sepp> how? 17:52 < Stelz> :| 17:52 < rxr> re 17:52 < Stelz> rehi rxr 17:53 < LMJ> I was updating the system (-system) after problem of driver Nvidia (glibc + kernel + nvidia and more stuff from trunk) and got a core dumped in the glibc Emerge and now, each command i run core dump 17:54 < sepp> :/ 17:54 < LMJ> sound very bad 17:54 < rxr> LMJ: yes, that glibc thing is known 17:54 < rxr> that is why we do not in-system build glibcs ... 17:55 < LMJ> libc or so 17:55 < rxr> LMJ: you can rm the new /lib/*2.5.0* files of libc ... 17:55 < rxr> and run ldconfig 17:55 < LMJ> i have to boot on a live cd ? 17:55 < sepp> i thought glibc is blacklisted on Emerge 17:56 < LMJ> not with -system ? 17:56 < AMD> does anybody know how to set "timer frequency" and "preemption model" for a multi core desktop system? 17:58 < rxr> sepp: is 17:59 < sepp> yes, i saw it, just looked at Emerge-Pkg :) 17:59 < LMJ> I killed my system :-/ 18:04 < rxr> AMD: the preemption model in the kernel config 18:05 < rxr> AMD: timer depends, kernel HZ in the .config as well - and some rt timer stuff via /dev/rtc or so 18:05 < rxr> sepp: hm - -system does not honor the blacklist - that is bad ... 18:06 < rxr> LMJ: if you have a default t2 system with initrd you can boot with init=something-that-does-not-exist 18:06 < rxr> you will get a panic shell from the initrd ramdisk them 18:06 < AMD> well SMP and desktop is a uncommon combination 18:06 < rxr> and then mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdaX /rootfs 18:06 < AMD> I may need different settings than most users 18:07 < rxr> and use the tools from the initrd or /rootfs/usr/embutils/... to repair (that is remove the new glibc) files 18:07 < rxr> AMD: SMP is not uncommon anymore - nearly all currently shipping desktops have a multi core CPU .. 18:07 < rxr> even this crappy Apple boxes :-) 18:07 < AMD> ok 18:07 < AMD> but what would you chose 18:07 < AMD> not the highest latency!? 18:08 < AMD> not the highest frequency? 18:08 < AMD> I dont relly understand the sense behind this option :D 18:11 < rxr> well - I usually leave kernel defaults 18:11 < rxr> they are defaults for good reasons 18:11 < rxr> also I recently found (though that is some kernel versions ago) that preemption made USB instable 18:11 < AMD> "250 HZ is a good compromise choice allowing server performance while also showing good interactive responsiveness even on SMP and NUMA systems." 18:12 < AMD> "1000 HZ is the preferred choice for desktop systems and other systems requiring fast interactive responses to events." 18:12 < LMJ> reboot : segfault (core dumped) 18:12 < rxr> well 1000HZ also wasts more CPU cycles just for task switching 18:14 < AMD> does SMP mean better responsiveness? 18:15 < rxr> yep 18:16 < AMD> so with SMP I need fewer "time frequency"!? 18:16 < AMD> then I'll use 250 Hz 18:20 < AMD> building linux26 took over 20 minutes 18:20 < AMD> I dont understand this because I already compiled the kernel in 3 minutes 18:21 < rxr> http://www.songbirdnest.com/ 18:21 < rxr> ^- package anyone ?`:-) 18:24 < LMJ> maybe if got my system back ;) 18:27 < sepp> haha, an audio player based on mozilla crap, that must rock 18:28 < rxr> yeah - that is why I ask who would package it - as I do not need it .-) 18:28 < rxr> just to have it around for those people that are brave enough to use it :-) 18:28 < LMJ> looks like another KDE app i saw 18:29 < LMJ> Amarok or something 18:30 < AMD> mozilla apps with XUL consume too much memory 18:34 < LMJ> rxr and then mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdaX /rootfs <-- Done 18:34 < LMJ> what i can do now ? 18:35 -!- AMD [n=armin@p5499570D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #t2 [] 18:40 < rxr> change into the rootfs (simple cd 18:40 < rxr> ) 18:41 < LMJ> "and use the tools from the initrd or /rootfs/usr/embutils/... to repair (that is remove the new glibc) files" I don't understand what i have to do 18:41 < rxr> the files from usr/embutils/* are rescue binaries statically linked 18:42 < rxr> you can now use usr/embutils/rm to remove the new glibc files in lib/... 18:42 < rxr> those files hsould be named 2.5.0 or so 18:42 < rxr> and the run ldconfig to create new ymlinks for the old libc chroot /rootfs ldconfig 18:44 < LMJ> well, the problem is : no files in /lib 18:44 < rxr> not /lib 18:44 < rxr> /rootfs/lib :-) 18:44 < LMJ> ok 18:45 -!- AMD [n=armin@p5499570D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:45 [Users #t2] 18:45 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ kensai] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ triel ] 18:45 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 18:45 [ AMD ] [ idealm ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_] [ th ] [ zod ] 18:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 18:47 < AMD> I cant compile strace 18:48 < AMD> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/mciw2u73.html 18:49 < Stelz> AMD: 18:49 < Stelz> strace is broken 18:49 < Stelz> nobody can compile it 18:49 < LMJ> i did a rm *2.5* in /rootfs/lib/ 18:49 < rxr> well it built here 18:49 < LMJ> the problem now is to find ldconfig 18:50 < AMD> so what shall I do? 18:50 < rxr> but indeed it appears to be broken for cross builds or so 18:50 < rxr> I'll start a new test build on my laptop to finall catch this 18:50 < AMD> shall I wait some days :D !? 18:50 < AMD> is there no older package that works? 18:53 < LMJ> i did a /rootfs/sbin/ldconfig -f /rootfs/etc/ld.so.conf 18:54 < LMJ> is it ok ? 19:02 < CIA-9> aldas * r20303 /branches/6.0/package/base/shadow/ (shadow.conf shadow.desc): (log message trimmed) 19:02 < CIA-9> * merged r19554 from trunk to branches/6.0: 19:02 < CIA-9> fixed recently introduced regressio in login.defs resuting in 19:02 < CIA-9> an ugly big warning at login: do not add config options in 19:02 < CIA-9> login.defs not know for PAM enabled builds. 19:02 < CIA-9> fixed shadow to only enable the shared flavour if T2 is not 19:02 < CIA-9> configured for static builds. 19:03 < rxr> ouhm - didn't I merge that already or did I forgot that ? 19:04 < Baldzius> hm 19:05 < Baldzius> can't find yours merge 19:07 < Baldzius> bbl 19:14 < rxr> must have mistakenly marked it in my mind already ... :-) 19:33 < rxr> LMJ: yeah - could be 19:33 < rxr> LMJ: does your system boot again ? 19:38 < LMJ> no rxr, got a kernel panic 19:38 < LMJ> just after mouting the rootfs 19:40 < LMJ> BBL 19:42 -!- AMD [n=armin@p5499570D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #t2 [] 19:57 -!- sparc-kly|WORK [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:08 [Users #t2] 20:08 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ] [ sepp ] [ th ] [ zod] 20:08 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ sparc-kly_] [ triel ] 20:08 [ Baldzius] [ kensai] [ rxr] [ Stelz ] [ valentin] 20:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 20:08 < rxr> cu - off home 20:09 < _Ragnar_> cya :) 20:14 < CIA-9> sebastian * r20304 /trunk/package/graphic/pixie/pixie.desc: * updated pixie (1.6.3 -> 1.7.6) 20:15 < kensai> does 6.0 receive packages update or just security updates? 20:18 < sepp> mostly security updates 20:19 < kensai> I see 20:19 < kensai> thx 21:30 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:42 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has joined #t2 21:53 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@adsl-64-237-248-147.prtc.net] has joined #t2 22:02 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@adsl-64-237-248-147.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:16 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@adsl-64-237-248-147.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:18 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:49 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD11DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:49 < jsaw> hi there 22:49 < Stelz> hi jsaw 22:49 < jsaw> hi Stelz 22:54 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.81.149] has joined #t2 23:02 < jsaw> anybody experiencing problems compiling 1-strace? 23:02 < jsaw> (fails here on x86_64) 23:03 < Stelz> jsaw: strace is broken 23:03 < Stelz> nobody can compile it 23:03 < _Ragnar_> I can :) 23:03 < Stelz> on current trunk? 23:04 < jsaw> btw, is it needed on stage 1? 23:04 < Stelz> jsaw: i just removed it from packages 23:04 < jsaw> ic 23:17 < Stelz> 'night all 23:18 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz 23:21 < jsaw> cu Stelz --- Log closed Fri Oct 20 00:00:03 2006