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09:30 < misl> morning all
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11:05 < rxr> re
11:06 < rxr> moin misl 
11:06 < rxr> hi idealm 
11:06 < misl> hi rxr
11:11 < rxr> how do you do?
11:15 < CIA-20> rene * r19810 /trunk/package/x86/x86info/x86info.desc: * updated x86info (1.18 -> 1.20)
11:18 < idealm> hi rxr
11:18 < CIA-20> rene * r19811 /trunk/package/develop/ncc/ncc.desc: * updated ncc (2.4 -> 2.5)
11:19 < CIA-20> rene * r19812 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.26 -> 0.27)
11:20 < CIA-20> rene * r19813 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * updated geany (0.8 -> 0.9)
11:30 < CIA-20> rene * r19814 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.12.1 -> 2.12.2)
11:53 < misl> rxr: I am fine thank you. Just spend a week at my summerhouse :-)
11:54 < misl> how about you? Still busy ;-)
11:55 < rxr> yes, I could devide me in about 100 parts as many people want something from me these days ,-)
11:57 < misl> Make good choices my friend, otherwise you will not achieve your goals and turn crazy along the way.
11:59 < misl> rxr: I plan to come to Berlin somewhere early november. I'd like to pay you a visit too. Would that fit your schedule.
12:01 < rxr> I can not promisse to be hear, business is catching me ... in november also linux world expo is scheduled in cologne
12:01 < rxr> do you want to make holiday in berlin or something else ?
12:02 < misl> Just a daytrip 1th or 7th november
12:08 < rxr> LWE is 14th to 16th November
12:09 < rxr> would be nice to meet you, drop me a note when you know for sure
12:09 < rxr> I guess you come with your whole family ?
12:13 < misl> No I come alone. Arrive early in the morning a leave late in the evening
12:13 < rxr> oh
12:13 < misl> I plan to visit the renegades too  ;-)
12:15 < rxr> you only come to visit us in berlin, or anything else than the SDEs on the list?
12:18 < misl> Nope, just the SDE's
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12:28 < Degi> Hi Guys !
12:29 < Degi> i posted a t2-6.0.0 build error for e2fsprogs
12:29 < Degi> can you verify it ?
12:30 < Degi> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/irBEPe19.html
12:31 < rxr> I saw that error some days ago, is that your second post?
12:31 < rxr> do you  build with parall build enabled?
12:35 < Degi> let me check one sec , i believe no 
12:37 < Degi> Maximum no of  jobs to be executed in parallel 1
12:37 < Degi> but i have 
12:37 < Degi> [*]        This is a cross-build between architectures 
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12:38 < Degi> rxr do you think the cross-build has to de anything ... since the system is running on i686 compiled kernel !
12:43 < rxr> it should cross built
12:43 < rxr> are you really cross building ? (i386 -> arm or so) or just enabled that option for the sake of it?
12:43 < rxr> if you build on x86 for x86 then you do not need this option
12:44 < Degi> no its x86 -> x86 so ok let me dissable it .... but do i have to recompile everything from  the begining ?
12:45 < rxr> this option should not make a difference for your use-case
12:45 < rxr> but better try without it ,-)
12:45  * rxr off for lunch
12:45 < Degi> so what do u think this error would be off ?  
12:46 < Degi> ../lib/libblkid.so: undefined reference to `uuid_unparse'
12:46 < Degi> ../lib/libblkid.so: undefined reference to `uuid_is_null'
12:47 < rxr> that symbol usually is provided by e2fsprogs itself
12:47 < rxr> I have no idea how this error happens
12:47 < rxr> however you could disable the cross build of that package for you locally to get your build further
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12:47 < Degi> ok !
12:47 < rxr> just edit this file: package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.desc
12:48 < rxr> edit the line:
12:48 < rxr> [P] X -1-3-----9 179.199
12:48 < rxr> to read
12:48 < rxr> [P] X -1-3-----9 179.199
12:48 < rxr> oops
12:48 < rxr> [P] X ---3-----9 179.199
12:48 < rxr> that is remove the '1'
12:48 < rxr> so - I'm off for lunch
12:48 < rxr> cu a bit later
12:48 < Degi> ok ... have a good meal !
12:48 < Degi> thanks
12:49 < rxr> sorry that you have that hickup with your build
12:49 < rxr> cu then
12:50 < Degi> hopefully
12:51 < Degi> in my language we say "sahtain" which means "have a good meal " :)
13:01 < Degi> Guys once again new problem regarding the build on Centos ...
13:01 < Degi> its for compiling wireless-tools 
13:03 < Degi> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/aGO32o69.html
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13:57 < rxr> re
13:58 < rxr> remove the 1 in the P tag likewise ,-)
14:05 < CIA-20> rene * r19815 /trunk/package/graphic/openexr/pthread-dep.patch: 
14:05 < CIA-20> * force OpeneEXR's IlmThread to link against libpthread to other
14:05 < CIA-20>  external users such as cinepaint do not yield unresolved symbols
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14:12 < rxr> hi kensai 
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14:12 < kensai> hi rxr 
14:24 < Degi> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/S0MuhD79.html
14:24 < Degi> what does this mean !?
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14:28 < rxr> Degi: what exactly did you build?
14:28 < rxr> did you select anything special in the buidl output selection ?
14:29 < rxr> did you select cross build ?
14:29 < Degi> as i remember you said it shouldn't make any difference for cross or not for what am doing ?
14:29 < Degi> so  ileft it cross 
14:30 < rxr> yeah - I forgot you want to have qt and the like
14:30 < rxr> sorry - they do not cross build (yet)
14:30 < rxr> so just disable the cross switch and continue the build
14:30 < rxr> btw. there is no need to rm -rf the build
14:30 < rxr> it will just continue what is still missing
14:31 < Degi> ok one second
14:31 < rxr> did you select anything special for the packaging format? I wonder where this .none comes from
14:32 < Degi> rxr once i get this running then i will recompile with my own packages installed as described in the packaging system in the handbook 
14:34 < Degi> its building everything from the begining !
14:35 < Degi> can't we make it resume from where it left over previous build !?
14:35 < Degi> its starts from the very end !
14:36 < Degi> ver begining sorry :)
14:37 < rxr> hm - was the cross option a config id part ... ? hm
14:38 < rxr> humm
14:38 < rxr> well - if you enable ccache you should at least have most compiler invocations cached
14:39 < Degi> i will leave it now .... mostly it should take an hour to reach the stage we left over last !
14:40 < rxr> yeah - ok - I press the thumbs for your build
14:40 < Degi> in the handbook it doesn't say how one would enable a specific application which doesn't need any compilation to be included in the build 
14:40 < Degi> for instance i have configured Ruby and php scripts that needs to be enabled in the script
14:40 < Degi> in the build sorry
14:41 < Degi> nevertheless they depend on ruby lang and php scripts along with mysql and apache
14:43 < rxr> either you do a package for them that installs them, or you add them to your garget
14:43 < rxr> ... target 
14:44 < rxr> either e.g. injecting them in the 99-final package or if you vuild a livecd or so via the rootfs overlay and just drop them in target/.../rootfs
14:44 < rxr> yes we need to document that properly
14:45 < Degi> ok once i finish the test build successfully on This Host i will start the custom build ....
14:46 < Degi> all in all i will be informing you about my progress . this way we, especially me would be getting more to kow how the system flows 
14:48 < Degi> much gratefull for your help 
14:49 < rxr> yes - I'm so sorry you experience all this trouble :-( ...
14:50 < Degi> its good so that you or the maintainers would work around to clear the issues we might be facing ... me or any other person trying to work this around 
14:51 < rxr> especially when the new reference builder is online that builds in xen instances of those distributions those nasty corner cases will be crossed out ...
14:55 < Degi> well i haven't worked with xen yet !
16:54 < rxr> so - have to collect a UMTS SIM cards for the 600i ...
16:54 < rxr> cu later
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18:20 < LMJ> moin moin
18:46 < Stelz> moin moin moin LMJ :)
19:09 < rxr> hm - configure of ffcall hangs xen or so
19:09 < rxr> strange
19:09 < rxr> hi LMJ 
19:19 < CIA-20> rene * r19816 /trunk/package/network/bluez-libs/bluez-libs.desc: * updated bluez-libs (3.5 -> 3.7)
19:19 < CIA-20> rene * r19817 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.desc: * updated bluez-utils (3.5 -> 3.7)
19:21 < CIA-20> rene * r19818 /trunk/package/java/jetty/jetty.desc: * updated jetty (6.0.0rc4 -> 6.0.1)
19:28 < _Ragnar_> hmmm /sbin/udev doesn't seem to be in udev-100 any more, failing linux26 since it wants to copy that to the initrd
19:30 < CIA-20> rene * r19819 /trunk/package/gnome2/bluez-gnome/ (. bluez-gnome.cache bluez-gnome.desc): * added bluez-gnome (0.5) - A GNOME applet asking the PIN of bluetooth connections
19:30 < rxr> oh - I thought I touched all references
19:30 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I hope you use trunk's udev for testing only
19:30 < _Ragnar_> why? :)
19:31 < rxr> though it works more than less on my devel laptop I noticed some usb stick events do not result in propper device nodes ...
19:31 < rxr> that is I just noticed today
19:31 < _Ragnar_> ah
19:31 < rxr> guess a ncie task for my night TODO ,-)
19:31 < _Ragnar_> yea ;)
19:31 < rxr> but right now I first need to have bluetooth HID working again
19:31 < rxr> otherwise my shiny home workstation is less useful as it got bluetooth only keyboard and mouse some time ago ...
19:32 < rxr> and the latest bluez junk only support d-bus based authentication now ...
19:32 < _Ragnar_> *g*
19:32 < _Ragnar_> bluetooth only ... booooo ;P
19:34 < CIA-20> rene * r19820 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: * fixed latest udev-100 mkinitrd.sh conversion: copy udevd not udev into the image
19:34 < rxr> crypto wise ?
19:34 < rxr> thing is the desk is so much cleaner with cordless mices and boards in front of the 20" apple cinema display ,-)
19:34  * _Ragnar_ nods
19:34 < _Ragnar_> ;P
19:35 < rxr> so r19820 is untested I hope it fixes your issue
19:35  * rxr heading home ...
19:35 < rxr> cu tomorrow
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20:44 < sepp> hello :)
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22:46 < Degi> Guys 
22:46 < Degi> i pasted a problem concerning Build t2-6.0.0 
22:48 < Degi> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/3FYwZL17.html
22:54 < LMJ> hello Degi 
22:59 < Degi> LMJ
22:59 < Degi> hello 
22:59 < LMJ> that's your first t2 compilation ?
23:00 < Degi> yes and am not doing good in it ... lots of compilation errors am having . 
23:00 < Degi> with the guide of the guys in here i have managed to reach stage 2 
23:00 < Degi> but now its  2-binutils.err error
23:02 < LMJ> what distro are you using to compile t2 ?
23:02 < sepp> it creates dev/null ???
23:04 < Degi> CentOs 4.4 
23:04 < LMJ> stage 2 already chroot for the compilation ?
23:04 < Degi> i am using CentOS 4.4 
23:05 < Degi> i don't know what stage 2 does but it goes into a loop creating dev/null as the error output says 
23:05 < LMJ> i feel that like a chroot issue
23:05 < sepp> if you get too many strange errors because of some bad host system, you can get minimal iso and use that to build t2
23:05 < LMJ> are you compiling as root ?
23:05 < Degi> yes i am compiling as root
23:06 < LMJ> sepp is right, to simply your life, start with a t2 pre-compiled iso and use it to compile your own t2
23:07 < Degi> Mmmmm I should replace my CentOS now .... Ok :-)
23:07 < Degi> seems fine with me 
23:07 < LMJ> that's could be fix some issue
23:08 < Degi> yes but its strange now that you want to move it to build on FreeBSD and other systems it shouldn't have this much compilation errors on native linux Distro .
23:09 < Degi> especially that CentOS considered Enterprise Level certified by redhat ( or at least thats what they say )
23:10 < LMJ> i hope your package selection is good too ;)
23:10 < sepp> so far no one did tests on all the many zillion distros
23:11 < sepp> rene already wrote that he wanted to do some xen based tests ...
23:11 < Degi> i can say this is true. i didn't specify any package selection i already selected the minimal system . 
23:11 < Degi> with generic options to test as a start 
23:12 < Degi> do u know what distros t2 tested to build over ?
23:12 < sepp> do you have dev/null inside build/yourconfig ?
23:12 < LMJ> i will handle xen tests as soon as i can
23:13 < Degi>  build/system-6.0.0-generic-x86-i486/dev/null
23:13 < Degi> yes dev/null is there 
23:13 < sepp> hmm, strange error
23:13 < Degi> listen should i remove the chroot package from CentOs and custome compile a new one 
23:14 < Degi> thats what happened with ncurses
23:14 < Degi> i had ncurses-devel-5.4-13 
23:15 < Degi> i removed it and installed ncurses-devel-5.4-4  it worked 
23:15 < sepp> can you chroot into build/system-6.0.0-generic-x86-i486 ?
23:15 < Degi> shich means that the version comes with CentOS was somehow missing headers and not suitable for our compilation 
23:16 < Degi> yes am in it now
23:16 < Degi>  chroot build/system-6.0.0-generic-x86-i486
23:16 < Degi> bash-3.1# ls
23:16 < Degi> TOOLCHAIN  boot  etc   lib    mnt  proc  sbin  sys  usr
23:16 < Degi> bin        dev   home  media  opt  root  srv   tmp  var
23:19 < sepp> i have never seen that and i don't know what the problem might be :/
23:20 < Degi> its ok 
23:21 < Degi> we'll look at it one other time 
23:24 < Degi> where are the iso files located ?
23:24 < Degi> only the scripts are there on t2 website ?
23:25 < sepp> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/
23:26 < _Ragnar_> hi hi
23:26 < sepp> hi _Ragnar_ 
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