T2 IRC Log: 2006-09-25

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--- Log opened Mon Sep 25 00:00:17 2006
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08:51 < rxr> re
08:53 < rxr> rehi
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09:15 < rxr> Hardware: Alan Cox's Exploding Laptop
09:15 < rxr> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/09/24/062217.shtml
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09:44 < Stelz> rehi all
09:46 < rxr> hi Stelz
09:46 [Users #t2]
09:46 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
09:46 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm_] [ mipe] [ rxr] [ th ]
09:46 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
09:46 < Stelz> moin, rxr
09:52 < rxr> how are you Stelz ?
09:52 < Stelz> just fine, thanks :)
09:52 < Stelz> learning lua..
09:52 < Stelz> found some book in pdf for this :)
09:52 < Stelz> very nice
09:55 < rxr> yes LUA is very fine
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10:15 < CIA-20> susan * r19738 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.desc: * updated gtkmm (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
10:15 < CIA-20> susan * r19739 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
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10:32 < rxr> ~re
10:34 < rxr> http://www.netadmintools.com/art272.html
10:38 < Stelz> bleh.. i HATE rpm..
10:39 < rxr> heh - I abused the chan as my private pasteboard
10:39 < rxr> I need to deliver our GPL sane driver with suppost for $$$ to companies paying for it
10:39 < rxr> thus I'm preparing automated, nightly rebuilds of the driver in Xen domains for various Linux flavours ....
10:40 < Stelz> :)
10:40 < rxr> (to make those paying customers happy)
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11:33 < CIA-20> mtr * r19740 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/ (fix-fontconfig.patch poppler.conf poppler.desc):
11:34 < CIA-20> * updated poppler (0.4.5 -> 0.5.4)
11:34 < CIA-20> * changed poppler build priority (800.000 -> 127.020)
11:34 < CIA-20> * disable building cmd line utils, sharing files with xpdf
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11:55 < rxr> yay: http://penguinppc.org/about/distributions.php
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12:21 < Stelz> woohoo rxr :)
12:21 < Stelz> gratz
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12:26 < CIA-20> mtr * r19741 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc:
12:26 < CIA-20> * added poppler encoding files,
12:26 < CIA-20> since 0.5.x provided as seperate source file
12:29 < CIA-20> mtr * r19742 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/ (3 files): * remove unnecessary poppler hotfix.patch
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14:01 < rxr> hi AMD ,-)
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14:11 < AMD> hi
14:11 < AMD> hi rxr
14:12 < AMD> I need you for some advice
14:12 < AMD> Im using the trunk version of T2
14:12 < AMD> and compiling kernel2618 doesnt work
14:13 < AMD> in the error message is the information that cross compiling to X86-64 is enabled
14:14 < AMD> but I didnt enable cross compiling in the configuration
14:15 < AMD> so heres the error output: http://pastebin.ca/180984
14:15 < AMD> and here is my T2 configuration file: http://pastebin.ca/180997
14:16 < rxr> but it is correct that you want to build for x86-64 ?
14:17 < AMD> yes
14:17 < AMD> I have a EMT64 CPU
14:17 < rxr> it is correct that during the early bootstrap T2 run in cross compile mode
14:17 < rxr> there is something basic broken in your kernel build
14:18 < rxr> maybe it is a 2.6.18 regression
14:18 < rxr> I did not build that kernel yet
14:18 < AMD> Ok i dont really know, I just need to have 2.6.18 because otherwise my IDE/SATA controller wouldn't work
14:19 < rxr> I just boot linux on my laptop to review this
14:19 < rxr> stay tuned for a few minutes
14:19 < AMD> ok thank you
14:19 < rxr> your real problem is this:
14:19 < rxr> make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1
14:19 < rxr> make[1]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 2
14:19 < rxr> make: *** [include/config/auto.conf] Error 2
14:20 < AMD> by the way: I am also running 2.6.18 X86-64 Gentoo Linux for building T2
14:20 < AMD> yeah silentoldconfig thats the error output if you dont enable xtrace
14:20 < rxr> building on Gentoo "should" work fine
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14:53 < rxr> hm - trunk linux26 looks quite fine here - guess I have to look around for my x86-64 laptop ... ,-)
14:56 < rxr> AMD: I'll continue to review this
14:56 < rxr> I'm currently integrating automatic Xen patching in our linux package anyway
15:24 < F-117> hmm rxr
15:24 < F-117> does we have opera in packages?
15:24 < rxr> oehm
15:24 < rxr> nope
15:24 < F-117> why :)
15:24 < rxr> but I think we had in the past
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15:24 < rxr> we removed it because we did not got a license clearnace from opera
15:25 < rxr> the person who maintained the package asked opera a lot of times and never got any answer
15:25 < Stelz> :|
15:25 < rxr> I think nowadays with the BINARY and no download tag it could be legal for us to include the "build instructions" how to extract the browser into the T2 system
15:26 < rxr> r2386 * tsa: ... and remove the damn opera package - this is pending since dec 2003 ...
15:26 < Stelz> :|
15:26 < rxr> Stelz: revert revision 2386, update it anc commit ,-)
15:27 < Stelz> oh.. ok
15:27 < rxr> do you know how to do this?
15:27 < rxr> do you have write access already ?
15:27 < Stelz> nope
15:27 < Stelz> i don need this right now :)
15:27 < rxr> :-(
15:27 < Stelz> i just asked about opera :)
15:28 < rxr> svn merge -r 2386:2385 .
15:28 < rxr> should do
15:28 < Stelz> hm
15:28 < rxr> and then update it ,-)
15:28 < Stelz> why we have so strange pkg-sys
15:28 < Stelz> i mean..
15:28 < rxr> yeah ?
15:29 < Stelz> a lot of useless info in *.desc
15:29 < Stelz> hm.. strange format of *.desc file
15:30 < rxr> what of the .desc do you consider useless?
15:30 < rxr> every bit in it is in use
15:30 < rxr> and the text even for the end user installer and more
15:31 < Stelz> hm..
15:32 < Stelz> rxr: could it be smthng like this: http://slz.sytes.net/some_package/
15:35 < rxr> ouhm - definetly not
15:35 < rxr> also note that the BUILD even includes log redirection
15:35 < rxr> t2 does this all alone
15:35 < rxr> imagine when you change the way of logging - you have to alter each package ...
15:35 < Stelz> uhm.. no.. forget about BUILD file
15:35 < Stelz> just DETAILS
15:35 < Stelz> and DEPENDS
15:36 < Stelz> could we reconfigure our all package-system to some db? for example sqlite with some info in DETAILS?
15:37 < Stelz> uhm.. not our all package system.. i mean all structure of packages
15:38 < rxr> no - as I told you already having that information easily accessible from scripts, the editor and the build system is a must
15:39 < rxr> when you put that into a db you force every developer and users to use a special program to manipulate the files
15:39 < rxr> also the build system would become complex and error prone
15:39 < rxr> imagine people building on any OS - they would need to install the database library beforehand
15:39 < Stelz> hm
15:39 < Stelz> ok, lets forget about db
15:39 < rxr> then there is a problem of versioning the files in a public version control system - such as Subversion or Git
15:39 < Stelz> ye
15:39 < Stelz> but then
15:39 < rxr> if you do not want to place the DB online and let all edit them
15:40 < Stelz> could we make our packages easier?
15:40 < rxr> well - most people find the T2 .desc one of the most handy formats for packaing ever
15:40 < rxr> which part don't you like ?
15:41 < Stelz> why every file has a copy-note?
15:41 < rxr> also the DETAILS file you propose is quite simillar to our .desc - just remove the []s of our tags and add a equal sign ,-)
15:41 < Stelz> copyright-note
15:41 < rxr> and ""s for each text string ,-)
15:41 < rxr> the copyright note is a must for every serious open source project
15:42 < rxr> every normal project file has a copyright on the top
15:42 < rxr> and ours even is auto generated, you know?
15:42 < AMD> I need a working linux distro
15:42 < AMD> with kernel 2.6.18
15:42 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch
15:42 < Stelz> i know of course
15:42 < Stelz> i saw that
15:42 < Stelz> ok.. next
15:43 < rxr> AMD: I could build a minimal ISO on my Turion64 and upload it ...
15:43 < Stelz> rxr: are there only STRONG dependencies or not?
15:43 < rxr> currently there are only build dependencies
15:43 < rxr> there was a lot discussion about this on the mailing list the last weeks
15:43 < Stelz> uhm?
15:43 < Stelz> wtf
15:43 < Stelz> but
15:43 < rxr> we want to introduce distrinction about runtime and build time deps soon
15:44 < Stelz> how i could build a program with some conf-options?
15:44 < rxr> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel
15:44 < rxr> Wrong dependencies and other newbie questions
15:44 < rxr> ^-this thread
15:45 < AMD> rxr: I have already a minimal system. Gentoo with Kernel 2.6.18. But many Gentoo packages are not tested properly. Many dont compile on X86-64.
15:45 < rxr> Stelz: you mean how to add "--enable-this-and-that-cool-feature" for a package ?
15:45 < Stelz> yeah.. and save it for the future
15:45 < Stelz> for the future program-updates
15:45 < AMD> rxr: so on Gentoo its not possible to compile KDE for example.
15:45 < rxr> in T2 it is
15:45 < rxr> so you just need this 1-linux26 going, right?
15:46 < AMD> yes
15:46 < rxr> AMD: or do this - touch build/.../var/arm/log/1-linux26.log
15:46 < AMD> many packages before compiled properly
15:46 < rxr> and continue the build
15:46 < rxr> so you get the rest of the system until we know why the kernel does not want to build on your system
15:47 < rxr> maybe when the kernel is built in the non-cross mode later on (5-linux26) it will build inside T2 and it is a gentoo related problem
15:47 < Stelz> so rxr ?
15:47 < rxr> Stelz: simply this in the .conf:
15:47 < rxr> var_append extraconfopt ' ' '--enable-this-and-that-cool-feature'
15:48 < rxr> if you need this to be conditional on some other package then it looks like this:
15:48 < AMD> rxr: this touch command is enough?
15:48 < rxr> pkginstalled libx11 && var_append extraconfopt ' ' '--enable-this-and-that-cool-x11-feature'
15:48 < Stelz> hm
15:48 < rxr> AMD: this creates a log file and so the build system thinks the package was build all-fine
15:48 < Stelz> where i could find that functions?
15:48 < rxr> AMD: replace the /.../ with your config name
15:48 < rxr> e.g. /default/
15:49 < Stelz> and does it saved anywhere
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15:49 < Stelz> lol
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15:49 < rxr> Stelz: you mean for the future - well, submit that file to the mailing list ,-)
15:49 < rxr> or you get write access and just commit it:
15:49 < rxr> svn add package/.../your-pkg/your-pkg.conf
15:49 < Stelz> ehm
15:50 < Stelz> rxr:
15:50 < rxr> svn commit package/.../your-pkg/your-pkg.conf
15:50 < Stelz> but when only ME need this?
15:50 < Stelz> and nobody
15:50 < Stelz> except me
15:50 < rxr> ouhm - the just leave it on your box lingering around ,-)
15:50 < rxr> or if you have a target you can store this in your target as:
15:50 < rxr> target/stelz-mega-linux/pkg_thepackage.conf
15:51 < Stelz> so i think.. it's a target for our package-system :)
15:51 < rxr> but most often other want this feature as well - what are you looking at right now ?
15:51 < Stelz> our package system will be integrated with /usr/src/t2-src/packages, yeah?
15:51 < Stelz> *package
15:52 < rxr> yes, it should integrate nicely with our from-source descriptions
15:52 < Stelz> hm.. rxr
15:52 < Stelz> after installation o t2
15:52 < Stelz> *of
15:52 < Stelz> user have /usr/src/t2-src folder?
15:52 < Stelz> with full source
15:53 < rxr> yes supplied by the t2-src package
15:53 < Stelz> mm..
15:53 < rxr> as people usually like and rely on the "from source" nature of T2
15:54 < Stelz> rxr: .. then we must have subversion by default?
15:54 < Stelz> uhm
15:54 < Stelz> we == user who installed T2
15:54 < Stelz> :)
15:55 < Stelz> cause there is no other way to update T2-sources with new packages
15:55 < Stelz> yup?
16:02 < rxr> if you want to receive updates, yes
16:03 < rxr> though the t2-src is useful without svn as well
16:03 < rxr> such as installing additional packages
16:03 < Stelz> hm.. rxr
16:03 < Stelz> to install the new packages.. we need to svn co $trunk_of_t2
16:04 < Stelz> ye?
16:04 < Stelz> i mean
16:04 < Stelz> to update the tree
16:04 < Stelz> and then to install some packages
16:04 < Stelz> so our package-system will be based on /usr/src/t2-src/package folder :
16:04 < Stelz> :)
16:05 < Stelz> and our package system will be native for us
16:05 < Stelz> but i think it may be used in other distros, right?
16:05 < mtr> re
16:06 < Stelz> hi mtr
16:06 < mtr> hi Stelz
16:06 < rxr> hi mtr
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16:08 < mtr> hi rxr
16:10 < Stelz> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/t2-src.html
16:10 < Stelz> and i think about our pkg-sys name.. :)
16:12 < CIA-20> susan * r19743 /trunk/package/base/t2-src/t2-src.desc: * removed trailing > of the Url tag in t2-src
16:17 < mtr> i think the opera license has changed in the last years, now it is free-to-use on desktop systems:
16:17 < mtr> LICENSE: "You are entitled to use the Software on all personal computers (laptops/desktops)."
16:18 < Stelz> ye
16:18 < mtr> i've an uncommited opera pkg on my desktop ...
16:18 < Stelz> and i can't live with this browser..
16:19 < Stelz> oops
16:19 < Stelz> lol
16:19 < Stelz> and i can't live without this browser..
16:19 < Stelz> :)
16:19 < mtr> Stelz: :)
16:39 < rxr> mtr: commit it ,-)
17:17 < LMJ> moin moin
17:17 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
17:21 < LMJ> moin moin rxr
17:21 < LMJ> how are you ?
17:22 < Stelz> moin moin moin LMJ :)
17:22 < rxr> fine thanks - back fgrom the DMS fair
17:22 < LMJ> i saw that
17:22 < LMJ> what is it ?
17:25 < rxr> DMS is document management solutions ...
17:25 < rxr> http://www.inactio.de/news.asp
17:26 < rxr> ^- I was on our partner booth of Avision Inc.
17:26 < rxr> you can find me on that pictures ,-)
17:26 < rxr> http://www.inactio.de/Bilder/messe7.jpg
17:26 < rxr> ^- e.g. the left most
17:26 < rxr> err
17:26 < rxr> right most ,-)
17:26 < rxr> too much xen source appear to suffle my brain ... ,-)))
17:27 < LMJ> cool
17:27 < LMJ> do you know SWAT ?
17:28 < LMJ> about XEN, i've tested 3.0.3 at work on 32 & 64 bits, looks very powerful, i'm harceling my boss to remove all linux box from vmware and switch them to XEN, vmware is a slow dead dog in comparaison
17:31 < rxr> 3.0.3?
17:31 < rxr> I only saw 3.0.2
17:31 < rxr> or do yo umean 3.0-testing or the xen-testing W?
17:32 < LMJ> yes
17:32 < LMJ> or 3.0.2
17:32 < LMJ> no
17:32 < LMJ> testing
17:33 < LMJ> because 3.0 something was buggy
17:33 < LMJ> xm shutdown myvm switched them in a zombie state for ever
17:35 < rxr> with the recommended 2.6.16.x kernel ?
17:35 < rxr> or self patched up to 2.6.18 or so ?
17:39 < LMJ> recommanded one irrc
17:39 < LMJ> i follow a howtoforce tut
17:39 < rxr> on t2 or another dist ?
17:40 < LMJ> no
17:40 < LMJ> ubuntu at work
17:44 < LMJ> did you packaged something for t2 & xen ?
17:44 < rxr> yes since long times
17:44 < rxr> but right now we do not build the xen aware kernel
17:44 < rxr> I'm about to change this
17:44 < rxr> but I'm still medidating how to integrate this best
17:44 < rxr> I think I go for an additional kernel package named linux26-xen until the xen and kernel folks manage to integrate their bits toghether
17:45 < LMJ> yes
17:46 < LMJ> you have to get the good kernel according the xen version + modify grub, allow the amount of ram you want for domU*
17:46 < LMJ> Xen provide a fast emulation
17:47 < LMJ> if you get it working on t2, i will force my boss to give me the right to buy sooner or later a server for it and install t2 ;)
17:49 < LMJ> but this idea of the "shared" kernel is strange for me, i feel it very fragile/breakable
17:49 < LMJ> and each vm must have the same kernel (on regular cpu without Virtualisation technology)
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18:59 < AMD> rxr: building didnt work with your suggested command
18:59 < rxr> what is your error now ?
19:11 < AMD> no error
19:12 < AMD> no, I mean it just compiles like before
19:12 < AMD> again the same file
19:12 < AMD> maybe I have to rename the .err to .log and then do touch ... !?
19:21 < rxr> when you touch the right .log the .err will be silently removed anyway
19:21 < rxr> well - if you feel better rename that .err into .log and it will be fine as well
19:21 < rxr> can you try quickly? I'll leaev the office in a sec
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19:22 < sepp> hello :)
19:23 < Stelz> hi :)
19:23 < sepp> ,-)
19:25 < AMD> rxr: are you still here?
19:26 < rxr> yes
19:26 < rxr> hi sepp
19:26 < AMD> I cant find the log
19:26 < AMD> I only see an .err
19:26 < sepp> hi rxr
19:26 < rxr> yes rename .err to .log ,-)
19:26 < AMD> ok
19:26 < rxr> I guess you touched the wrong filename before ...
19:26 < AMD> Ill try
19:27 < AMD> which filename should I
19:27 < AMD> linux26...
19:27 < AMD> ?
19:27 < rxr> yess the ame name
19:27 < rxr> just with the .log extension
19:28 < rxr> AMD: you can ask others here as well, mtr, sepp or valentin
19:35 < AMD> it wprls
19:35 < AMD> works
19:36 < AMD> and what doing afterwards
19:36 < AMD> can I chroot in build/... and do make menuconfig
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19:54 < AMD> and the next package doesnt work :(
19:54 < AMD> ncurses its called
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19:54 < AMD> I think its better to give up self-compiling linux
19:54 < AMD> there are also packages in Gentoo which didnt work
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20:09 < CIA-20> sebastian * r19744 /trunk/package/audio/mpd/mpd.desc: * updated mpd (0.12.0rc3 -> 0.12.0)
20:16 < CIA-20> sebastian * r19745 /trunk/package/audio/mpc/mpc.desc: * updated mpc (0.11.2 -> 0.12.0)
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20:30 < sepp> wb AMD
20:31 < AMD> hi sepp
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20:55 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
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21:26 < kensai> hi people
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21:29 < sepp> hi kensai
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21:29 < kensai> sepp: lol, I know you are here, I was saying hi to the other people
21:30 < kensai> :)
21:30 < sepp> hehe
21:40 < CIA-20> mtr * r19746 /trunk/package/www/opera/ (. opera.conf opera.desc): * added opera (9.02) - A lightweight full-featured web browser
21:46 < _Ragnar_> lightweight? o_o
21:46 < _Ragnar_> *G8
21:53 < LMJ> hehe
21:53 < LMJ> cool mtr
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22:17 < CIA-20> sebastian * r19747 /trunk/package/graphic/epdfview/ (. epdfview.cache epdfview.desc): * added epdfview (0.1.5) - A lightweight PDF viewer using Poppler and GTK+
22:20 < LMJ> i saw a package vmware, but it's the "workstation" version
22:20 < sepp> yup
22:20 < LMJ> is it planned to do the same for the "virtual server" version ?
22:22 < LMJ> epdfview is "better" then xpdf ?
22:24 < sepp> it works even with 100mb pdf's and it uses gtk+ - not as ugly as the old motif crap xpdf uses
22:25 < LMJ> xpdf is so ugly
22:27 < sepp> poppler is the pdf rendering code of xpdf, epdfview is just a little gtk+ gui
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22:34 < LMJ> ok
22:34 < LMJ> about opera, same error when i installed it by hand :
22:34 < LMJ> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8000409016826512649
22:34 < LMJ> damned ;)
22:35 < LMJ> $ opera shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
22:35 < LMJ> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
22:35 < LMJ> /usr/lib/opera/9.02-20060919.5/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
22:37 < _Ragnar_> need the old c++ libs
22:38 < sepp> emerge libstdc++-v3
22:39 < _Ragnar_> how gentoo :)
22:39 < sepp> lol, i never used gentoo
22:45 < _Ragnar_> emerge is a gentooism
22:46 < sepp> ok, ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg, i was just too lazy to type that
22:48 < _Ragnar_> :)
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23:22 < LMJ> good
23:22 < LMJ> it works ;)
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23:53 * sparc-kly|WORK is away: I'm busy
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