T2 IRC Log: 2006-09-18

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--- Log opened Mon Sep 18 00:00:07 2006
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10:46 < CIA-20> susan * r19676 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.15 -> 4.7.16)
10:58 < CIA-20> susan * r19677 /trunk/package/network/pdnsd/pdnsd.desc: * updated pdnsd (1.2.4 -> 1.2.5)
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11:09 < rxr> moin
11:16 < Stelz> moin rxr ;
11:16 < Stelz> )
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11:33 < rxr> moin idealm
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11:34 < Stelz> flyin idealm :)
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11:36 < Stelz> lol
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12:10 < rxr> cu - we are off for lunch
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15:47 < Stelz> rxr: ping
15:50 < rxr> poing
15:51 < Stelz> rxr: why we don't have sh1/md5 sums for checking downloaded packages?
15:51 < Stelz> *sha1
15:54 < rxr> because noone thought about that 1998
15:54 < rxr> ,-)
15:54 < Stelz> hm
15:54 < Stelz> i think we need things like this
15:54 < rxr> we could change this today ,-)
15:55 < rxr> well we check with a good old checksum
15:55 < Stelz> to make a function to compare sha1sums
15:55 < Stelz> and add smthng like "[S] sha1sum" to *.desc file
15:55 < rxr> of course this does not stand against people who want to inject you backdoored sources and have enough CPU time to construct a tarball with the identical checksum
15:56 < Stelz> :)
15:56 < rxr> sha1sum of t2 source or the downloaded tar ?
15:56 < Stelz> second one
15:56 < Stelz> sha1sum of every package
15:57 < rxr> well you know that there is the checksum of the download, right ?`
15:57 < valentin> the package cksum is there to avoid accidental errors, not hackers
15:57 < Stelz> yeh, valentin
15:57 < rxr> we could "update" the checksum to sha1 (though it was attacked recently as well) by using this apache password file a-like encoding
15:58 < rxr> prefixing the sum with {sha1} or what it was if it is new-style
15:58 < Stelz> yup
15:58 < Stelz> :)
15:58 < rxr> rene:{SHA}hvfkN/qlp/zhXR3cuerq6jd2Z7g=
15:58 < rxr> this encoding
15:58 < rxr> and don
15:59 < rxr> 't try that hash on my server it was just for test generated on os x .. ,,-)
15:59 < rxr> Re-type new password:
15:59 < rxr> rene:{SHA}hvfkN/qlp/zhXR3cuerq6jd2Z7g=
15:59 < rxr> rene-rebes-computer:~ rene$
15:59 < Stelz> :)
15:59 < rxr> I think it was of "a" ... ,-)
15:59 < Stelz> rxr: it may be a part of our new "package-system"
16:00 < rxr> ;-)
16:00 < Stelz> so.. we must check sums before extracting packages
16:00 < Stelz> and after downloading of them
16:01 < rxr> we check it at download time right now
16:02 < Stelz> hm. ok
16:02 < Stelz> rxr: why we don't have minimal-iso in precompiled cds? :)
16:03 < rxr> good question ,,-)
16:03 < Stelz> http://osiris.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/6.0.0/ <- only desktops here.. fat desktops :\
16:03 < rxr> the 6.0.1 will get different release images
16:04 < rxr> like minimal
16:04 < Stelz> 6.0.1 coming soon?
16:04 < rxr> oehm - Baldzius_ ?
16:04 < rxr> well - I think the beginning of october is nice
16:04 < rxr> isn't t2 2 years old on oct 3. or so ?
16:07 < Stelz> maybe 6.1 then? :D
16:08 < Stelz> 6.1.0 i mean
16:08 < rxr> well - no real need, we need to prove the world we are able to deliver step-by-tep stability and security updates and that is what 6.0.1 will be about
16:08 < rxr> and the big changes still need to be done for 7.0
16:09 < rxr> aside - well if someone wants to branch 6.1 with the gnome 2.16 update and maintain that series ...
16:09 < rxr> but that would be quite some workload to do
16:10 < Stelz> yeah..
16:12 < Stelz> hmm rxr
16:12 < Stelz> 7.0 'll be really in january '07 ?
16:12 < rxr> of course it depends on contribution and collaboration
16:12 < rxr> I hope so, yes.
16:12 < rxr> why do you ask ?
16:13 < Stelz> just interested.. and why we make 6.0.* tags.. when 7.0 is coming soon
16:14 < rxr> ehrm? we worked nearly half an year to stabelize 6.0
16:14 < rxr> it was a bit late, yet, but we also moved 7.0 - I think initially 7.0 was planed for autumn this year
16:15 < Stelz> so 7.0 won't be stable in jan'07 ?
16:15 < rxr> after all we want about 2 major releases per year - about as many as OpenBSD and the like
16:16 < Stelz> hm
16:16 < rxr> well - we plan to release 2 major releases per year, with the progress we made so far - continous releases was the biggest problem at ROCK Linux times and why noone used it
16:16 < rxr> regular half year releases sound quite fine to me
16:16 < Stelz> but why 6.0.1, 6.0.2 and THEN 7.0 :)
16:16 < Stelz> 6.1, 6.2 looks better before 7.0 :)
16:16 < rxr> in 6.0.x only bugfixes, security fixes go into
16:17 < rxr> no new features or updates like gnome 2.14 -> 2.16
16:17 < Stelz> hmm
16:17 < rxr> that is in trunk and goes into the next major release when it is ready
16:17 < rxr> simillar to what you get in OpenBSD for your installed release
16:17 < Stelz> now i see
16:18 < Stelz> to make smthng like 6.1.. we must make a GLOBAL updates
16:18 < Stelz> like gnome, etc. yeh?
16:18 < Stelz> or new features
16:18 < rxr> yep
16:20 < Stelz> hm.. next
16:20 < Stelz> rxr: is there any tool to remove a package? like "t2merge" to add it?
16:21 < Stelz> tool == script
16:21 < rxr> mine -r pkg-name
16:22 < Stelz> so
16:22 < Stelz> mine == our prototype of an our package-system? :)
16:26 < rxr> nope
16:26 < rxr> mine == the old junk we have left over from ROCK Linux times and we want to get rid of as soon as possible
16:26 < Stelz> ah
16:27 < Stelz> so.. we need a real package system.. and del mine
16:27 < Stelz> :)
16:28 < rxr> I propose to be compatible with Slackware and Solaris and very intuitive as well and use pkgadd / pkgdel
16:28 < rxr> These include pkgadd, pkgrm, pkgchk, pkgmk, and pkginfo
16:28 < Stelz> :)
16:29 < rxr> http://ussg.iu.edu/usail/man/solaris/pkgadd.1.html
16:29 < Stelz> yeah
16:29 < Stelz> i know
16:29 < Stelz> there is nobody who devels this for T2? :)
16:30 < rxr> I hope you ,-)
16:30 < Stelz> :)
16:30 < rxr> well - just joking, or me or valentin or mipe, or or or ,-)
16:30 < rxr> the possibilites are endless
16:30 < Stelz> hm, fine
16:30 < rxr> I already did my best so far to remove the mine thing in as many places as possible so far
16:30 < Stelz> i'm interested in it
16:30 < rxr> also T2 no longer uses the special-purpose .gem packages mine use over at ROCK Linux
16:31 < rxr> our mine is already patched to a) do not segfault all the time
16:31 < rxr> and b) use tar with any compressor filter such as bzip2, gzip, lzo
16:31 < rxr> I find this already quite a progress
16:31 < Stelz> and maybe i'll try to devel smthng :)
16:31 < rxr> removing it entirely is the next step - for 7.0 ,-)
16:31 < Stelz> :)
16:31 < Stelz> nice
16:32 < Stelz> so.. with 7.0.. we *MUST* advertise our package system :)
16:32 < Stelz> gigi
16:32 < rxr> yes - and that as standard compliant
16:32 < rxr> otherwise the people will headshake why the word needs yet another packaging system
16:32 < Stelz> ye
16:32 < rxr> that is also why we quickly dropped ROCK's .gem in favour of "everyone knows and can use them" tarballs
16:33 < Stelz> then.. we 'll not need scripts t2merge ?
16:33 < Stelz> *script
16:33 < rxr> and in fact ROCK Linux around up to 1.4 _even had_ !!! pkg{add,del,...}
16:33 < Stelz> if we 'll have *REAL* pkg-system
16:34 < Stelz> hm. i'll try to work at it
16:34 < Stelz> i'll collect some info about *ALL* pkg-systems :)
16:35 < Stelz> and 'll try to make a hybrid from them for T2
16:36 < Stelz> pkg-db updates only by svn, yeah? so we need subversion installed by default
16:37 < Stelz> i look at the moonbase, a package-system for some source-linux-distro
16:37 < Stelz> nice one
16:38 < Stelz> so.. about ours :) it maybe a lot of scripts.. like t2add, t2del, t2nfo, etc.
16:39 < Stelz> or maybe one - t2. with options "-del", "-add", etc.
16:39 < Stelz> more cpmpact and useful i think
16:39 < Stelz> *compact
16:40 < Stelz> something like "t2 add perl" to install it, "t2 del perl" to remove it, "t2 info perl" to view some info about it, etc.
16:41 < rxr> I would not name them t2*
16:41 < Stelz> mm.. ok
16:41 < rxr> pkgadd/... would be more handy in my opinion
16:41 < Stelz> but i think we must name commands not like in other distros :)
16:42 < Stelz> coz we should have *OUR OWN* pk-sys
16:42 < Stelz> unique :)
16:42 < Stelz> *pkg
16:59 < rxr> well - slackware and solaris and others use these already
17:00 < rxr> if redhat would not have came up with the rpm hell it could have formed quite a well-known pkg installer use on U*ix ... :-(
17:00 < Stelz> anyway
17:00 < rxr> I think adopting those is more win for us then re-inventing something else
17:00 < Stelz> we 'll make our own pkg-sys
17:00 < Stelz> not from solaris/slackware
17:00 < Stelz> but the same :)
17:01 < rxr> sure, the backend doing the work will be our thing, that is integrating source and binary installations - I'm just talking about the naming conveitions ...
17:01 < Stelz> naming.. hm
17:01 < Stelz> i think it 'll be ONE tool
17:01 < Stelz> one script-name i think
17:02 < Stelz> with -add, -del options
17:02 < Stelz> or not?
17:02 < rxr> well - that can of course internally be handled this way - like symlinks from pkgsel and so on to pkgadd or the like
17:02 < rxr> for comfort and compatibility
17:02 < Stelz> ye
17:02 < rxr> or really seperate programs using the "big brain library" behind the scene
17:02 < Stelz> then.. the name of main-script
17:03 < Stelz> u don't want it to be t2..
17:03 < Stelz> any ideas? :)
17:03 < rxr> nope - maybe gather some more ideas and code how it is suppost to work ,-)
17:03 < Stelz> :)
17:05 < Stelz> rxr: our main shell is bash?
17:05 < rxr> our main shell is bash, yes
17:06 < Stelz> :)
17:06 < Stelz> fine.
17:06 < rxr> do you ask in wich language to write the new tool ?
17:06 < Stelz> yeah
17:06 < Stelz> so now i see
17:06 < Stelz> bash
17:06 < Stelz> :)
17:07 < rxr> well - depends if bash is the right language for such a complex tool
17:07 < rxr> but you can start
17:07 < rxr> for the new 7.0 features we strongly consider to use LUA
17:08 < Stelz> hm
17:08 < Stelz> lua?
17:08 < Stelz> not tcl? :P
17:10 < Stelz> hm.. so.. lua will be installed by default? and it 'll be better when our pkg-sys 'll be built on lua? ok.. i'll try to look at this.
17:14 < Stelz> but really only lua?
17:14 < Stelz> maybe smthng else like tcl :)
17:14 < Stelz> i just never used lua.. :)
17:18 < valentin> damn, so many things in the api changed from 5.0.2 to 5.1
17:18 < valentin> almost nothing compiles anymore
17:18 < valentin> those morons
17:18 < Stelz> hm.. valentin == lua-specialist? :)
17:18 < valentin> not quite
17:19 < Stelz> so valentin. T2-project 'll use a lot of lua-code, yeah?
17:19 < Stelz> T2 in the future
17:20 < valentin> yes, but t2 uses it's own copy of lua instaead of the system installed one
17:20 < valentin> to avoid such incompatiblities
17:20 < Stelz> erghm..
17:20 * Stelz confused
17:22 < Stelz> valentin: who makes its own copy?
17:22 < valentin> it is not an 'own' version of lua
17:22 < Stelz> but?..
17:23 < valentin> just the official package compiled into a local subdir
17:23 < Stelz> hm
17:24 < Stelz> so if i want to be in T2 future.. i must install lua, yeah, valentin ?:)
17:25 < valentin> hm ?
17:25 < valentin> i just told you the opposite :)
17:25 < valentin> 17:20 < valentin> yes, but t2 uses it's own copy of lua instaead of the system installed one
17:25 < valentin> 17:23 < valentin> just the official package compiled into a local subdir
17:25 < Stelz> valentin: i see.
17:26 < Stelz> but i mean
17:26 < Stelz> if i want to be really inside T2, then i must install and learn lua, yeah?
17:26 < Stelz> :)
17:29 < valentin> so you are going to tell me that you do not even have some kbytes left on your hd to install lua ?
17:29 < Stelz> no
17:29 < Stelz> ;)
17:29 < rxr> Stelz: this is not decided yet
17:30 < Stelz> just interested in T2-dev-process
17:30 < rxr> but from the past we learned that we reall hit the complexity level that can be handled in bash
17:30 < Stelz> hm, rxr ?
17:30 < Stelz> hm
17:30 < Stelz> ok
17:30 < rxr> all advanced features we want to implement now sort of do not work out too well in bash
17:30 < rxr> lua was the best alternative so far
17:30 < rxr> but there is nothing decided yet and you are free to propose your ideas and solutions in shell code
17:31 < Stelz> hm rxr. lua is still the best alternative?
17:31 < rxr> so far yes
17:31 < Stelz> hm :)
17:31 < rxr> some parts of t2 are already very slow now (Configure) and some parts need some more processing power (dynamic depednecny graph analysis) that bash also is just way too slow
17:31 < rxr> lua is magnitudes faster
17:31 < rxr> and you can structure your code and data way more saner
17:32 < Stelz> did u think about others?
17:32 < Stelz> for example, tcl :)
17:32 < Stelz> or it's a bad idea
17:32 < rxr> well perl, python, .. are out of question
17:32 < rxr> we also looked at small, embryo, ...
17:33 < rxr> well - tcl looks more like dying out, no ?
17:33 < rxr> does anyone really loves coding in it ?
17:33 < valentin> ohem...
17:33 < valentin> not me
17:33 < Stelz> dying? no..
17:34 < Stelz> but i like coding in tcl :)
17:34 < valentin> tcl is bloated. lua is small and - besides the C-Api changes - quite reasonable
17:34 < Stelz> hm
17:34 < valentin> Stelz: feel free to re-implement our config in tcl ;)
17:34 < Stelz> lol
17:35 < Stelz> if i'll do this.. then T2 'll use tcl forever? :D
17:39 < rxr> lol
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17:39 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ valentin]
17:39 [ Baldzius_] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ]
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17:47 < Stelz> :)
17:48 < Stelz> so, rxr, valentin.. now i see.. that i really must to lear a new prog-lang.. lua..
17:48 < Stelz> if there is no other alternative
17:49 < Stelz> *learn
17:55 < rxr> valentin: updated: http://www.exactcode.de/avisionosx/ http://www.exactcode.de/exactscan/
17:56 < Stelz> rxr: we 'll not use tcl exactly? :)
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17:57 < valentin> Stelz: it is unlikely that we use tcl
17:57 < valentin> at least noone of us planed to do so
17:57 < Stelz> hm
17:58 < Stelz> and nobody wants to try? :)
17:58 < Stelz> hm.. then i need to install & learn lua
17:58 < misl> hi folks
17:59 < rxr> do you know tcl good enough already?
17:59 < rxr> hi misl !
18:00 < Stelz> rxr: i think so
18:00 < Stelz> but nobody 'll learn tcl too..
18:00 < Stelz> i think.. coz for example valentin luvs lua :)
18:02 < misl> Stelz I already know tcl :-) used it professionally for 4 years
18:03 < Stelz> hm..
18:03 < Stelz> "misl & Stelz with tcl-knowledge VS valentin's professionalism in lua" :D
18:04 < valentin> so, me driving home now, cu later
18:04 < Stelz> cya
18:04 < rxr> cu valentin
18:04 < Stelz> so rxr.. do i need to learn lua? :)
18:05 < Stelz> or it's better to start to dev pkg-sys with bash/tcl
18:05 < rxr> Stelz: well as I tried to point out is that nothing is set in stone here, neither the use of lua
18:06 < misl> cu valentin
18:06 < rxr> so you can of course prototype it in shell+tcl and the like - or gain experience in LUa - as you prefer
18:06 < Stelz> shell+tcl.. maybe clear tcl :)
19:14 < rxr> cu
19:15 < Stelz> cu rxr
19:39 < valentin> re
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19:58 < sparc-kly|WORK> rxr t2 6.0 sparc64-niagara this run in U5?
20:23 < LMJ> moin moin
20:23 < Stelz> moin?
20:23 * Stelz :: Date/Time is now [ Mon Sep 18 22:17:52 ]
20:23 < Stelz> ah
20:24 < Stelz> i forgot about your location
20:24 < Stelz> :P
20:24 < Stelz> moin
20:24 < sparc-kly|WORK> Mon Sep 18 14:17:37 AST 2006
20:24 < sparc-kly|WORK> :)
20:24 < sparc-kly|WORK> rxr: ping
20:25 < Stelz> 21:08'33 | rxr> cu
20:25 < Stelz> 21:52'15 | + sparc-kly|WORK (n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net) has joined #t2
20:25 < Stelz> :)
20:26 < sparc-kly|WORK> thanks stelz
20:26 < Stelz> np
20:53 -!- trb7 [n=netstati@bl5-233-168.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #t2
20:53 < trb7> hi
20:56 < Stelz> hello, trb7 :)
20:58 < trb7> hi Stelz :)
21:19 < valentin> lol, ooo binarys are only available as rpms theese days
21:19 < Stelz> :(
21:20 < trb7> hi valentin
21:20 < sparc-kly|WORK> valentin: ping
21:20 < valentin> pong
21:20 < trb7> hi sparc-kly
21:20 < sparc-kly|WORK> valentin: t2 6.0 sparc64-niagara this run in U5?
21:21 < sparc-kly|WORK> hi trb7 :)
21:21 < valentin> sparc-kly|WORK: hm, don't think so but could be
21:23 < CIA-20> aldas * r19678 /trunk/package/multimedia/mythtv-plugins/mythtv-plugins.desc: * updated mythtv-plugins (0.20 -> 0.20a)
21:24 < CIA-20> aldas * r19679 /trunk/package/xorg/fontconfig/fontconfig.desc: * updated fontconfig (2.4.0 -> 2.4.1)
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21:36 < CIA-20> aldas * r19680 /trunk/package/audio/audacity/ (audacity.conf audacity.desc wx_24.patch):
21:36 < CIA-20> * updated audacity (1.2.4 -> 1.2.4b)
21:36 < CIA-20> * updated copyright notes
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21:39 < CIA-20> aldas * r19681 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.05 -> 2.02.09)
21:52 < CIA-20> aldas * r19682 /trunk/package/network/pound/pound.desc: * updated pound (2.1 -> 2.1.1)
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21:58 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
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