--- Log opened Tue Jun 13 00:00:25 2006 00:15 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.148.236.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 00:15 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.144.209.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:30 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.125] has joined #t2 01:03 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.125] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:07 < Lucifer_arma> !> gcc -g -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-p .. 01:07 < Lucifer_arma> !> fl_wrapper.so: write outside basedir (/home/dave/Projects/t2-trunk): /root .. 01:07 < Lucifer_arma> from the branch 01:08 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has joined #t2 02:55 < Lucifer_arma> that was with optimization set to Athlon, not AthlonXP or Athlon MP 02:55 < Lucifer_arma> set it to Pentium and then 486 and it went away, but now I get this: 02:55 < Lucifer_arma> checking for i486-t2-linux-gnu-gcc... i486-t2-linux-gnu-gcc 02:55 < Lucifer_arma> checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile 02:55 < Lucifer_arma> that's with glibc, and it hasn't gone away 02:55 < Lucifer_arma> building desktop target 03:29 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E10F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 03:37 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E11561.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:37 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 04:07 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@59.184.28.35] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:31 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@221.128.139.67] has joined #t2 05:09 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 05:09 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 05:14 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 05:15 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 05:25 -!- mipe_ [n=mikapesu@fw.abako.fi] has joined #t2 06:40 < Lucifer_arma> why is it building glibc from cvs, anyway? Why not a release? 06:43 -!- CIA-7 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:45 < mipe_> rxr: you awake? or anyone that has used mac os x 06:45 < mipe_> i curse the day when my boss gave me mac as work pc 06:46 -!- CIA-7 [i=cia@69.90.211.97] has joined #t2 06:53 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.96.61] has joined #t2 06:53 < Baldzius> good morning 06:55 < mipe_> morning Baldzius 06:56 < Baldzius> hi mipe_ 07:42 -!- sanketmedhi [n=sanketme@221.128.139.67] has joined #t2 08:23 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 08:24 < Lucifer_arma> glibc isn't building for me in an uptodate branch checkout. Anybody else having problems with it? 08:26 < rxr> mipe_: yes, what is your osx problem? 08:27 < rxr> I have to use it a lot some days 08:27 < rxr> Lucifer_arma: on trunk glibc did not change for 6 months 08:27 < rxr> Lucifer_arma: there is no known problem on normal platforms, aside sparc* 08:27 < Lucifer_arma> hmmm, I'm on a normal platform 08:27 < Lucifer_arma> checking for suffix of object files... configure: error: cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile 08:27 < Lucifer_arma> See `config.log' for more details. 08:27 < Lucifer_arma> Due to previous errors, no 1-glibc.log file! 08:27 < Lucifer_arma> during configure, obviously 08:28 < rxr> mnemoc: --relocate may not be used for inter-tree switches 08:28 < rxr> --relocate is _ONLY_ for server moves, not inter-tree branch changes .... 08:30 < mipe_> rxr:i got it fixed now, just typical new user mistake i guess 08:32 < rxr> osx is actually quite usable when you got used to it a bit, somwhere between t2 and windows, usability and stability wise ... 08:34 < rxr> in past times I found the hardware quality quite nice, but with the Intel machines it dropped majorly ... 08:34 < rxr> e.g. the boxes get hot like hell ... 08:34 < rxr> and on the weekend my dual-core G5 power supply blow away, which annoys the h*ll out of me ... 08:35 < rxr> especially carring the heavy box thru berlin to the next apple "dealer" 08:35 < rxr> there peesea stuff is in favour where you can grab another atx power-supply at the next "supermarket" 08:37 < rxr> heh, the sparc finished 1-linux in the night ... 08:55 -!- sanketmedhi [n=sanketme@221.128.139.67] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:13 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:17 [Users #t2] 09:17 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-7 ] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ] 09:17 [ acehunky] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin ] 09:17 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mipe_] [ MusiFreq] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar__] 09:17 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 09:41 < mtr> moin 09:46 < mtr> 2.2-stable reference build: 1-linux26 fails due to "At least one of the 3rd party kernel modules failed!" 09:48 < mtr> rxr: i want to suggest some changes/patches to linux2{4,6}, do you have a min? 09:54 -!- mipe_ [n=mikapesu@fw.abako.fi] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 10:16 < rxr> mtr: sure 10:16 < rxr> mtr: what 3rd party module failed ? 10:16 < rxr> I fixed all reasonable but had not the spare time to fix all the esoteric 10:20 < rxr> if there are really strange erros in seldome used module packages I would select O them ... 10:21 -!- mipe_ [n=mikapesu@fw.abako.fi] has joined #t2 10:27 < mtr> rxr: failing modules are zaptel, cloop, nvidia-legacy, rivatv, rt2570, lazyfs 10:28 < mtr> but i think it would be more user-friendly to continue the build regardless of some failing modules 10:29 < rxr> we did that in the past and decided only to do so on rebuild stage 9 and such also emerge to get the build errors fixed by people who want to see the build going ong 10:30 < rxr> however I think only I ondergone the pain to fix a handful of those 3rd party modules 10:30 < rxr> all that are in the desktop build and wlan ones more that I added to the desktop build thereafter 10:31 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:43 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.125] has joined #t2 10:46 < mtr> yep, for sure the decision to honour the module errors has a good reason 10:47 < mtr> what do you think about logging the module failure to any temporary file, and later on the package build for this module should include this kernel build error? 10:47 < rxr> hm 10:48 < rxr> I think we do should not try to propagate to different, misleading places 10:48 < rxr> maybe I give those a spin a fix what is fixable and the reminders are left for other contributors and marked O until then ? 10:49 < rxr> so people that want to use them have to fix those anyway and other people who do not use e.g. lazyfs will not be bothered at all 10:49 < rxr> the others patches on the list can most probably go in as it 10:49 < rxr> have you tested that the cross built initrd actually works? 10:49 < rxr> e.g. contains the correct {usb,pci,...}map files and the like ? 11:01 -!- horst [n=tasongwe@192.116.128.40] has joined #t2 11:02 < horst> morfoh, u there? 11:03 < mtr> rxr: ok, then keep the pressure on fixing module errors, and this raises the burden for the one upating the linux kernel ... ;-) 11:05 < mtr> rxr: i did cross build initrds for xscale and amd64, and afair both worked well, but before commiting i will rebuild these targets 11:07 < rxr> you have xscale silicon ? 11:08 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:09 < mnemoc> rxr: i know --relocate should not be used to change from one tree to another, that's why i just told him to use svn switch 11:10 < rxr> the uname wrapper needs to be improved to pick up the $arch dynamically, stuff like sparc64 with 32bit userland alters it conditonally, .. anyone ? 11:13 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 11:13 -!- MusiFreq_ [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 11:14 -!- MusiFreq [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 11:14 -!- MusiFreq_ [n=MusiFreq@cpe-24-195-90-147.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 11:19 < mtr> rxr: i still have a xscale development kit from CompuLab, a leftover from a customer project which i will not return until they have paid :-\ 11:35 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.96.61] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:36 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@kilo105.server4you.de] has quit ["leaving"] 11:38 < rxr> mtr: ouhm :- 11:38 < rxr> \ 11:38 -!- Baldzius_ [n=baldzius@85.206.101.102] has joined #t2 11:42 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@kilo105.server4you.de] has joined #t2 11:45 -!- Baldzius_ [n=baldzius@85.206.101.102] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:23 < rxr> I can chroot into my new sparc build already and both the 32 and 64 glibc appear to work so far ,-) 12:31 < rxr> maybe we shoudl readd gcc-3.4 for such slower boxes ... 12:34 -!- mipe_ [n=mikapesu@fw.abako.fi] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 13:03 -!- sherniux [n=sherniux@81-7-79-120.ip.zebra.lt] has joined #t2 13:18 -!- shekhar_info [n=sanketme@221.128.139.67] has joined #t2 13:18 < shekhar_info> hi 13:19 < mnemoc> hi 13:23 -!- shekhar_info [n=sanketme@221.128.139.67] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:24 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.125] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:37 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.125] has joined #t2 14:04 -!- mode/#t2 [+o mnemoc] by ChanServ 14:05 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.2 Branched! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 14:05 -!- mode/#t2 [-o mnemoc] by mnemoc 14:17 -!- sireficuL [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has joined #t2 14:21 -!- sherniux [n=sherniux@81-7-79-120.ip.zebra.lt] has quit [] 14:54 -!- mode/#t2 [+o mnemoc] by ChanServ 14:55 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.2 Branched! - trunk going for 2.3 | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 14:55 -!- mode/#t2 [-o mnemoc] by mnemoc 14:56 < LMJ> moin moin 14:57 < mnemoc> moin LMJ 14:58 < LMJ> how are you mnemoc ? 14:58 < mnemoc> good, and you? 15:00 < LMJ> fine, thanks 15:02 < horst> Hi doc, bist du da? 15:03 < LMJ> t2 starting to be improved ;) 15:03 < mnemoc> ? 15:04 < LMJ> some scripts, new 2.3 trunk 15:09 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@221.128.139.67] has quit [] 15:15 -!- sireficuL [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has quit [] 15:24 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178006241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:24 < morfoh> moin :) 15:24 < morfoh> horst: :) 15:24 < mnemoc> moin morfoh :) 15:44 -!- sireficuL [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has joined #t2 15:44 -!- sireficuL [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has quit [Client Quit] 15:49 < horst> Hi doc 15:49 < horst> Ich bin draussen einen Satelliten Schuessel in Betrieb zu nehmen 15:50 < morfoh> horst: english only here ;) 15:50 < horst> move 15:50 < morfoh> horst: I hope you can speak english :p 15:50 < horst> i am going to try 15:50 < morfoh> good :) 15:50 < morfoh> look at your private message 15:51 < horst> Where are the private messages, u know I do not use irc 15:51 < mnemoc> o_O 15:51 < morfoh> hmmm ... what client ? 15:52 < morfoh> horst: hopefully you'll find them soon ... but you have to autheticate on freenode that I'll be able to read your messages 15:53 < morfoh> horst: but anyway ... good to see you around ;) 16:06 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@59.184.28.35] has joined #t2 16:14 < morfoh> horst: please check the website on you newly registred domain 16:14 < morfoh> /you/your/ 16:15 < morfoh> and authenticate yourself ! :) 16:34 < LMJ> hello the chan again 16:34 < rxr> hi LMJ 16:35 < LMJ> do you know swatch rxr ? 16:36 < LMJ> or logrotate or nikto 16:36 < LMJ> I don't see them on t2 packages 16:37 < morfoh> hi LMJ + rxr 16:38 < LMJ> hello morfoh 16:39 < morfoh> horst: will you finish to setup the satellite dish today ? 16:49 -!- sanketmedhi [n=sanketme@221.135.149.96] has joined #t2 16:50 -!- sanketmedhi [n=sanketme@221.135.149.96] has quit [Client Quit] 16:57 [Users #t2] 16:57 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ laj_ ] [ morfoh] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin ] 16:57 [ acehunky] [ horst ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar__] 16:57 [ CIA-7 ] [ idealm] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ tdi ] 16:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 17:06 < LMJ> Can "Emerge-Pkg" can just copy files, not compile anything ? 17:06 < LMJ> *can* 17:06 < mnemoc> there are many packages which don'T compile anything 17:06 < LMJ> good 17:07 < mnemoc> there are even packages without [D]s 17:07 < LMJ> i would like to add scripts perls who are basicaly for server monitoring : swatch, logrotate and nikto 17:08 < LMJ> swatch looks like the most hard with a "perl Makefile make make install make realclean" 17:08 < LMJ> i have to say i don't know how to deal with them 17:08 < mnemoc> T2 knows to install perl packages 17:09 < LMJ> so swatch should be done fingers in the noze ;) 17:09 < LMJ> about logrotate : there are 2 files, one should move to /etc/ and the other one in /usr/bin 17:10 < mnemoc> cp to $sysconfdir, and to $bindir 17:11 < LMJ> about nikto, there are a couple of file to copy (a perl + some plugins in a subdir), i think /opt could be a good place with a symlink to /usr/bin, no ? 17:11 < mnemoc> why duplicate? 17:11 < LMJ> move* 17:12 < LMJ> nikto doesn't need any compilation too 17:12 < _Ragnar__> hi hi 17:14 < LMJ> hy _Ragnar__ 17:22 < LMJ> i will catch you mnemoc in private when i will try to package those 3 programs 17:23 < mnemoc> uhm, ok.... but in public is ok 17:27 < LMJ> I don't want to show how i'm a t2 n00b ;) 17:28 < LMJ> i'm prudish/bashful ;) 17:29 < mnemoc> ^_^ 18:15 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.192] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:15 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan_ru@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 18:15 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.57.125] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:15 < morfoh> horst: give me a ping if you are ready 18:15 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.141.202] has joined #t2 18:26 -!- sireficuL [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has joined #t2 18:51 -!- sireficuL [i=MMM@213.252.233.162] has quit [] 19:01 -!- veki [n=chatzill@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has joined #t2 19:10 -!- veki [n=chatzill@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040124]"] 19:29 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178167059.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:29 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2 Branched! - trunk going for 2.3 | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 19:29 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 13 15:03:53 2006] 19:29 [Users #t2] 19:29 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-7] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ tdi ] 19:29 [ acehunky] [ dsoul] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin ] 19:29 [ Baldzius] [ horst] [ Lucifer_arma] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ _Ragnar__] 19:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 19:29 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 19:29 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 19:30 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 19:39 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178189234.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:43 < rxr_> it appears at a pizzeria or so some foots away someone was shot or so 19:43 < rxr_> at lot of poiice and such around ... 19:45 < _Ragnar__> O_O 19:49 < tdi> Linux ra-v1 2.6.16.18-xenU #3 SMP Mon Jun 12 11:01:32 CEST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz GNU/Linux 19:49 < tdi> sorry not here 19:54 -!- You're now known as rxr 20:47 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.246.131] has joined #t2 22:32 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=satan_ru@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:21 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.246.131] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:21 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.246.131] has joined #t2 23:54 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@59.184.28.35] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Wed Jun 14 00:00:37 2006