T2 IRC Log: 2006-06-04
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--- Log opened Sun Jun 04 00:00:54 2006
00:02 < karasz> cu guys.
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03:43 < Demian> hi
03:44 < Demian> someone skilled with squid tuning ?
04:38 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178060126.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
04:38 < morfoh> hi
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07:16 < misl> morning all :)
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08:39 [Users #t2]
08:39 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-3 ] [ karasz_ ] [ misl ] [ sepp_ ] [ _Ragnar_]
08:39 [ acehunky] [ Demian] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc] [ sparc-kly]
08:39 [ AzianFlu] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ tdi ]
08:39 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ Lucifer_arma] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
08:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
08:40 < rxr> moin
08:47 < CIA-3> rene * r17791 /trunk/package/base/linux26/macbook-usb-hid.patch: * added one more USB ID to the macbook-usb-hid.patch, scheduled to be sent upstream, now
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09:02 < rxr> moin sepp
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09:07 < sepp> moin rxr :)
09:09 < CIA-3> rene * r17792 /trunk/package/x11/synaptics/ (X11R7-lib64.patch synaptics.desc): * updated synaptics (0.14.3 -> 0.14.5)
09:12 < rxr> Infizierte Treiber auf HP-Servern
09:12 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/73848
09:23 < CIA-3> rene * r17793 /trunk/package/audio/nas/ (gcc4.patch nas.desc): * updated nas (1.7 -> 1.8)
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09:24 < CIA-3> rene * r17794 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/macbook-usb-hid.patch: * copyed the macbook-usb-hid.patch to linux26mm
10:12 < CIA-3> rene * r17795 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc/kernel.conf.m4 x86/kernel.conf.sh):
10:12 < CIA-3> * enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT_POWERBOOK for x86 (MacBook*) and powerpc
10:12 < CIA-3> (post 2005 PowerBooks)
10:31 < Baldzius> moin
10:31 < Baldzius> rxr: looks like uname wrapper breaks cmake
10:32 < Baldzius> like libmpeg3
10:34 * Lucifer_arma is away: sleeping
10:37 < rxr> cu Lucifer_arma
10:37 < rxr> Baldzius: ok
10:53 < rxr> Baldzius: /me fixing thie uname thing
10:53 < rxr> are there any votes to patch this wheel group away by default
10:53 < rxr> historically we never required it for su ...
10:59 < rxr> hm - cmake is ugly to fix - damn
11:01 < Baldzius> :/
11:01 < rxr> yeah
11:06 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
11:06 < misl> hi folks
11:06 < rxr> mon misl
11:06 < rxr> moin even
11:06 < rxr> ,-)
11:06 < misl> hi rxr
11:07 < misl> rxr: do you know of a good laptop that is capable of running T2 linux without hassle?
11:07 < misl> prefereably x86-64
11:10 < rxr> not really, sorry
11:11 < misl> :-(
11:11 < rxr> if you prefer x86-64 look out for a Turion64 , best _MT_ not ML, they eat less energy == less heat
11:11 < rxr> the centrions have no 64bit extension
11:11 < rxr> also core duo not
11:11 < rxr> the core duo II on automn will have the em64t
11:12 < rxr> I find most PC laptops that unattractive, design and quality wise, that I do not really monitor those boxes
11:12 < rxr> the Apple MacBook is quite nice, though no em64t, the display is not that good, but it has the core duo with the VT extension enabled
11:12 < misl> I do not care about the design to much
11:13 < misl> VT? is that for Xen support?
11:13 < rxr> heh ,-) I care
11:13 < rxr> misl: yep, but I have not tested anything in this area
11:13 < rxr> I'm happy when I can basically use the box
11:14 < rxr> Baldzius: can you upload your mpeg3lib error log ?
11:14 < misl> Xen support, that's something I care about :-)
11:15 < rxr> heh
11:15 < rxr> I do not know off hand if the Turion2 has the pacifica VT extension from AMD
11:15 < rxr> the core duo have VT
11:16 < rxr> but some BIOSes do not enable it
11:18 < misl> I think I have to do some googling :-)
11:19 < rxr> if the MacBook display would be better it would be a nice laptop
11:19 < rxr> even more when they would have used a 64bit CPU ...
11:19 < rxr> Baldzius: ok - fixed, no need for the log anymore ,-))
11:20 < Baldzius> rxr: :)
11:20 < Baldzius> almost uploaded
11:20 < rxr> == 06/04/06 13:27:48 =[9]=> Finished building package libmpeg3.
11:20 < CIA-3> rene * r17796 /trunk/scripts/Build-Tools: * added long option substitution to the uname wrapper
11:22 < CIA-3> rene * r17797 /trunk/package/multimedia/libmpeg3/largefile.patch:
11:22 < CIA-3> * patched libmpeg3 to have struct stat64 around, needed on at least
11:22 < CIA-3> ppc64, maybe all architectures
11:22 < rxr> Baldzius: built for me -^
11:24 < Baldzius> yeah, now works :)
11:24 < Baldzius> last thing: i found this in gcc/parse-config
11:24 < Baldzius> # Passing -I/usr{/local/}include creates a warning in gcc3 which is confusing
11:24 < Baldzius> # some of the configure scripts and Makefiles.
11:24 < Baldzius> #
11:24 < Baldzius> var_insert GCC3_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-I/usr/include"
11:24 < Baldzius> var_insert GCC3_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-I/usr/local/include"
11:25 < Baldzius> not sure but it looks like not needed
11:25 < Baldzius> i am almost finishing ref build without it and don't see any regression
11:25 < rxr> this was introduced with gcc-3.0 or so - maybe the packages do not have those these days anymore - or gcc does not complain about it anymore
11:27 < Baldzius> this hack breaks the latest evolution
11:27 < rxr> Baldzius: for cmake you would need to patch the cmake machinery to not include stderr in program invocation results
11:27 < rxr> Baldzius: however this /might/ cause regressions for packages using cmake and relying on this
11:27 < Baldzius> iirc there's one package relying on cmake :)
11:27 < rxr> currently it includes the "You may not run uname inside the build" output into the result which fails of curse
11:28 < rxr> Baldzius: kde4 will I read
11:28 < rxr> currently we only have small using cmake, right? ,-=
11:28 < rxr> maybe patch cmake to not use stderr in output and give it a spin
11:28 < rxr> I have fixing madwifi, wheel group and md5sum on my todo already
11:29 < Baldzius> not sure i can make it
11:43 < misl> hmm, seems like AMD Turion X2 is the best option for Xen on a 64 bits laptop :-)
11:43 < misl> http://www.virtualization.info/2006/05/amd-launches-turion-64-x2-with-io.html
11:47 < misl> Anyone like to test a Turion X2 notebook?
11:47 < misl> http://amd-notebooks.de/blog/bewirb-dich-beim-amd-notebooktest/
11:52 < rxr> I have no blog ,-)
11:52 < rxr> open one and sign up ,-)
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11:57 < karasz> moin moin
12:05 < misl> hi karasz
12:06 < karasz> hello misl
13:11 * rxr right now wasting time diasselbing tme Apple Intel HDA audio driver
13:11 < rxr> damn junk
13:23 < misl> At least the design is okay ;-)
13:39 < rxr> yep, just that the patched alsa driver only drives the right internal speaker :-(
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14:11 < keinek> hi
14:11 < karasz> hello keinek
14:11 < keinek> HI karasz
14:12 < keinek> i need htop-0.6.2.tar.gz, i cant download from web, and Testing ... ok 32230,000 is the only mirror that work here in argentina.
14:12 < keinek> :)
14:13 < karasz> do you see www.x5.ro?
14:13 < keinek> is the last file that i need for start a compilation with RC 2.2 desktop.
14:13 < keinek> karas
14:13 < karasz> if yes, i can provide htop for you.
14:13 < keinek> karasz,
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 32230,000
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing ... ok 0,000
14:14 < karasz> ok 0,000?
14:14 < karasz> hmmm.
14:14 < keinek> thanks karasz
14:14 < karasz> moment.
14:14 < keinek> i will try again, perhaps is my dial up connection.
14:15 < keinek> no, the same.
14:17 < karasz> do you need 0.6.2?
14:18 < keinek> 2.2.0-rc need 0.6.2
14:18 < keinek> :)
14:18 < Baldzius> hm
14:18 < keinek> if you have this one, please send me to keinek at gmail.com
14:18 < Baldzius> gsmp really doesn't have it
14:19 < Baldzius> but it downloads from original url
14:19 < keinek> the original url doesnt work
14:19 < keinek> i will try again...
14:20 < mnemoc> keinek: query
14:20 < Baldzius> keinek: i've jus tested
14:20 < Baldzius> works for me
14:20 < karasz> keinek http://www.x5.ro/htop-0.6.2.tar.bz2
14:20 < karasz> dld manualy
14:21 < karasz> Baldzius: there is a problem with 6.2 on gsmp
14:21 < keinek> thanks karasz
14:21 < karasz> np, yw ;)
14:22 < keinek> mnemoc, i thinks was the same error with sourceforge.
14:22 < Baldzius> don't get it, what it could be ralated to
14:23 < karasz> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.2/h/htop-0.6.2.tar.gz.extck.err ....
14:23 < karasz> 0.6.1 is fine.
14:23 < keinek> sometimes the servers of sourceforge fails...
14:24 < Baldzius> oh, someone should tell rxr :)
14:25 < karasz> same with ht-0.9.2.tar.bz2.extck-err...
14:25 < keinek> misc/share/DownloadTranslations <--- change it the sourceforge server.
14:25 < keinek> # loadbalancer is working weird these days
14:25 < keinek> s,^http://.*dl.\(sourceforge\|sf\).net/,http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/,
14:26 < keinek> this lines is from old t2 tree.
14:26 < Baldzius> i think there might be more *.err
14:26 < keinek> just change the easynews, for another server, example http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/
14:26 < karasz> maybe, this 2 i see with my own wyws... ;)
14:26 < karasz> err, eyes...
14:27 < karasz> but i guess that it is not hard to grep for them...
14:27 < Baldzius> keinek: don't use easynews
14:27 < Baldzius> stinky mirror
14:27 < keinek> before try manualy what server work better.
14:27 < keinek> ok Baldzius i do.
14:27 < Baldzius> last one rxr picked one is ok
14:27 < keinek> but the mirror status change depend the coutry that we are.
14:28 < keinek> s,^http://.*dl.\(sourceforge\|sf\).net/,http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/, <---- this is the last RC 2.2 line.
14:28 < keinek> so... mesh is dont work properly.
14:28 < keinek> stinky work better Baldzius ?
14:29 < keinek> stinky is a mirror ?
14:29 < Baldzius> :)))
14:29 < keinek> :P
14:29 < Baldzius> no
14:29 < keinek> hahaha
14:29 < keinek> :)
14:29 < keinek> funny
14:29 < Baldzius> use latest in trunk
14:29 < keinek> ok
14:30 < Baldzius> heanet is also good
14:30 < keinek> ok, whatever i have all the sources for start compile a desktop system.
14:30 < keinek> :D
14:31 < Baldzius> :)
14:32 < mnemoc> keinek: stinky significa apestoso
14:32 < keinek> mnemoc, thanks mnemoc jjajaa
14:33 < keinek> mnemoc, i still waiting for the adsl... tree weeks... and i still ...
14:33 < mnemoc> :)
14:33 < keinek> here the adsl service is stinky ;)
14:35 < sepp> it is a galatic rule - all telcos and isps suck
14:44 < keinek> yesterday connect by ham radio to the radio station.
14:44 < keinek> all is by air.
14:44 < keinek> at 1200 bps
14:45 < keinek> :P
14:45 < keinek> is RETRO.
14:45 < keinek> is VINTAGE COMPUTER
14:45 < keinek> :)
14:45 < keinek> the chat is very dinamic.
14:45 < keinek> all for educational purpose.
14:46 < keinek> is like the old telephone bbs, but with hamradio.
14:50 < sepp> :)
15:16 < LMJ> hello the Chan
15:16 < karasz> bonjour LMJ
15:17 < LMJ> how are you karasz ?
15:17 < karasz> quite good, thx, and you?
15:18 < LMJ> yes, nice
15:18 < LMJ> short weekend
15:18 < LMJ> most of the weekend was 3 or 4 days in France during the May Month ;)
15:19 < karasz> this is the way :(
15:26 < CIA-3> amery * r17798 /trunk/package/shells/scponly/ (. scponly.desc): * added scponly (4.6) - A user shell for restricting remote access to scp and sftp.
15:28 < LMJ> what the best way to send update ? "svn diff" output in an attached file ?
15:28 < rxr> svn diff
15:28 < rxr> attached or inlined
15:29 < LMJ> i'm close to have something clean for you rxr ;)
15:29 < LMJ> i'm working to make your work easier ;)
15:30 < LMJ> sent to SVN
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15:51 < karasz> brb
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16:27 < keinek_> !> * Code maturity level options
16:27 < keinek_> !> *
16:27 < keinek_> !> Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers (EXPERIMENTAL) [N/y/ ..
16:27 < keinek_> !> Console input/output is redirected. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configu ..
16:27 < keinek_> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-linux26mm.log file!
16:27 < keinek_> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build syst ..
16:27 < keinek_> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux26mm.out -> 1-linux26mm.err
16:27 < keinek_> == 06/04/06 13:23:37 =[1]=> Aborted building package linux26mm.
16:27 < keinek_> -> Unmounting loop mounts ...
16:27 < keinek_> :'(
16:27 < keinek_> buaaaaa!
16:27 < keinek_> snig snif :'(
16:27 < keinek_> i dont have lucky with 2.2
16:27 < mnemoc> you can freely disable linux26mm
16:27 < keinek_> yes?
16:28 < mnemoc> yes
16:28 < keinek_> Mmmm ok, i do. And linux26 is for.??
16:28 < keinek_> sorry linux26mm*
16:40 < karasz> linux26mm is another branch of the 26 kernel.
16:41 < karasz> like linux26ac
16:41 < karasz> i guess you should be ok with the vanilla 26, no0 need for the others.
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16:53 < pale_horse> rxr, thanks for the email about the printed manual, I'm getting the live cd now to test my hardware
16:54 < rxr> well - the livecd is not exactly new
16:54 * rxr urgently needs to build a newone from 2.2.0-rc ...
16:55 < pale_horse> I only learned of t2 last night
16:56 < pale_horse> gentoo bores me
16:57 < pale_horse> according to the hardware list my mini-itx will run just fine
17:03 * sparc-kly brbrbr
17:16 < rxr> somehow I think I'm the only one noticing that the ALSA driver only drives the right speaker of the Apple MacBook and maybe even the MacBook pro
17:17 * rxr should not have trained his ears too much on music ...
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17:20 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_]
17:20 [ AzianFlu] [ idealm ] [ Lucifer_arma] [ sepp ]
17:20 [ Baldzius] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc ] [ sparc-kly]
17:20 [ CIA-3 ] [ keinek_] [ mtr ] [ tdi ]
17:20 [ Demian ] [ laj_ ] [ pale_horse ] [ valentin ]
17:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
17:31 < karasz> rxr, do you think that an ibook g3 would boot T2 laright?
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17:57 * pale_horse is away:
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18:02 < nick01> do I need the 2 cd ?
18:02 < karasz> yes.
18:02 < nick01> k :|
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18:06 < nick01> can u select what to install or it just installs everything ?
18:06 < karasz> you can select packs during the install proccess.
18:07 < nick01> aren't they divided by category like kde gnome editors internet etc too ?
18:08 < karasz> well, dunno, i never selected packs, usually i use a minimal build then emerge what i need.
18:09 < nick01> :|
18:10 < nick01> emerge ? gentoo based ?
18:11 < karasz> nah
18:11 < karasz> jus a name coincidence ;)
18:12 < nick01> lol
18:13 < sepp> they are organized, look in the package/ dir
18:15 < karasz> sepp: in the installer program?
18:16 < sepp> ahh, ok - i can not read :)
18:17 < karasz> so did you ever selected packs while installing? i did not so i cannot answer nick01s question...
18:17 < sepp> no, i build only the packages i really want
18:17 < sepp> nothing more
18:18 < karasz> ;) seems that packs selection during install is an unused option...
18:19 < nick01> I want a full working system not to compile everything but I also don't have the space to install both cds
18:25 < sepp> you can select packages, it is the last option
18:25 < sepp> iirc
18:28 < nick01> anybody tested this thing on a clamshell ibook ?
18:32 < sepp> not me, i am not even sure i know what ibook that is
18:32 < karasz> i guewss you should be fine with T2-ppc
18:33 < nick01> ibook g3 300 mhz
18:35 < sepp> well, the iso is named powerpc-g3 so i guess thats fine
18:37 < nick01> other distros refused even to boot
18:39 < sepp> ask rxr when he is around, i know nothing about ibooks
18:40 < sepp> sorry
18:41 < nick01> k
18:41 < nick01> tks
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19:35 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2.0-rc RELEASED | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
19:35 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Jun 2 17:55:27 2006]
19:35 [Users #t2]
19:35 [@ChanServ] [ Demian] [ keinek ] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ]
19:35 [ AzianFlu] [ dsoul ] [ laj_ ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
19:35 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_]
19:35 [ CIA-3 ] [ karasz] [ Lucifer_arma] [ nick01] [ sparc-kly]
19:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal]
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23:53 < karasz> bon appetite LuciEatsPeople ;)
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00:02 < karasz> cu guys.
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03:43 < Demian> hi
03:44 < Demian> someone skilled with squid tuning ?
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04:38 < morfoh> hi
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07:16 < misl> morning all :)
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08:40 < rxr> moin
08:47 < CIA-3> rene * r17791 /trunk/package/base/linux26/macbook-usb-hid.patch: * added one more USB ID to the macbook-usb-hid.patch, scheduled to be sent upstream, now
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09:02 < rxr> moin sepp
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09:07 < sepp> moin rxr :)
09:09 < CIA-3> rene * r17792 /trunk/package/x11/synaptics/ (X11R7-lib64.patch synaptics.desc): * updated synaptics (0.14.3 -> 0.14.5)
09:12 < rxr> Infizierte Treiber auf HP-Servern
09:12 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/73848
09:23 < CIA-3> rene * r17793 /trunk/package/audio/nas/ (gcc4.patch nas.desc): * updated nas (1.7 -> 1.8)
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09:24 < CIA-3> rene * r17794 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/macbook-usb-hid.patch: * copyed the macbook-usb-hid.patch to linux26mm
10:12 < CIA-3> rene * r17795 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc/kernel.conf.m4 x86/kernel.conf.sh):
10:12 < CIA-3> * enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT_POWERBOOK for x86 (MacBook*) and powerpc
10:12 < CIA-3> (post 2005 PowerBooks)
10:31 < Baldzius> moin
10:31 < Baldzius> rxr: looks like uname wrapper breaks cmake
10:32 < Baldzius> like libmpeg3
10:34 * Lucifer_arma is away: sleeping
10:37 < rxr> cu Lucifer_arma
10:37 < rxr> Baldzius: ok
10:53 < rxr> Baldzius: /me fixing thie uname thing
10:53 < rxr> are there any votes to patch this wheel group away by default
10:53 < rxr> historically we never required it for su ...
10:59 < rxr> hm - cmake is ugly to fix - damn
11:01 < Baldzius> :/
11:01 < rxr> yeah
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11:06 < misl> hi folks
11:06 < rxr> mon misl
11:06 < rxr> moin even
11:06 < rxr> ,-)
11:06 < misl> hi rxr
11:07 < misl> rxr: do you know of a good laptop that is capable of running T2 linux without hassle?
11:07 < misl> prefereably x86-64
11:10 < rxr> not really, sorry
11:11 < misl> :-(
11:11 < rxr> if you prefer x86-64 look out for a Turion64 , best _MT_ not ML, they eat less energy == less heat
11:11 < rxr> the centrions have no 64bit extension
11:11 < rxr> also core duo not
11:11 < rxr> the core duo II on automn will have the em64t
11:12 < rxr> I find most PC laptops that unattractive, design and quality wise, that I do not really monitor those boxes
11:12 < rxr> the Apple MacBook is quite nice, though no em64t, the display is not that good, but it has the core duo with the VT extension enabled
11:12 < misl> I do not care about the design to much
11:13 < misl> VT? is that for Xen support?
11:13 < rxr> heh ,-) I care
11:13 < rxr> misl: yep, but I have not tested anything in this area
11:13 < rxr> I'm happy when I can basically use the box
11:14 < rxr> Baldzius: can you upload your mpeg3lib error log ?
11:14 < misl> Xen support, that's something I care about :-)
11:15 < rxr> heh
11:15 < rxr> I do not know off hand if the Turion2 has the pacifica VT extension from AMD
11:15 < rxr> the core duo have VT
11:16 < rxr> but some BIOSes do not enable it
11:18 < misl> I think I have to do some googling :-)
11:19 < rxr> if the MacBook display would be better it would be a nice laptop
11:19 < rxr> even more when they would have used a 64bit CPU ...
11:19 < rxr> Baldzius: ok - fixed, no need for the log anymore ,-))
11:20 < Baldzius> rxr: :)
11:20 < Baldzius> almost uploaded
11:20 < rxr> == 06/04/06 13:27:48 =[9]=> Finished building package libmpeg3.
11:20 < CIA-3> rene * r17796 /trunk/scripts/Build-Tools: * added long option substitution to the uname wrapper
11:22 < CIA-3> rene * r17797 /trunk/package/multimedia/libmpeg3/largefile.patch:
11:22 < CIA-3> * patched libmpeg3 to have struct stat64 around, needed on at least
11:22 < CIA-3> ppc64, maybe all architectures
11:22 < rxr> Baldzius: built for me -^
11:24 < Baldzius> yeah, now works :)
11:24 < Baldzius> last thing: i found this in gcc/parse-config
11:24 < Baldzius> # Passing -I/usr{/local/}include creates a warning in gcc3 which is confusing
11:24 < Baldzius> # some of the configure scripts and Makefiles.
11:24 < Baldzius> #
11:24 < Baldzius> var_insert GCC3_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-I/usr/include"
11:24 < Baldzius> var_insert GCC3_WRAPPER_REMOVE " " "-I/usr/local/include"
11:25 < Baldzius> not sure but it looks like not needed
11:25 < Baldzius> i am almost finishing ref build without it and don't see any regression
11:25 < rxr> this was introduced with gcc-3.0 or so - maybe the packages do not have those these days anymore - or gcc does not complain about it anymore
11:27 < Baldzius> this hack breaks the latest evolution
11:27 < rxr> Baldzius: for cmake you would need to patch the cmake machinery to not include stderr in program invocation results
11:27 < rxr> Baldzius: however this /might/ cause regressions for packages using cmake and relying on this
11:27 < Baldzius> iirc there's one package relying on cmake :)
11:27 < rxr> currently it includes the "You may not run uname inside the build" output into the result which fails of curse
11:28 < rxr> Baldzius: kde4 will I read
11:28 < rxr> currently we only have small using cmake, right? ,-=
11:28 < rxr> maybe patch cmake to not use stderr in output and give it a spin
11:28 < rxr> I have fixing madwifi, wheel group and md5sum on my todo already
11:29 < Baldzius> not sure i can make it
11:43 < misl> hmm, seems like AMD Turion X2 is the best option for Xen on a 64 bits laptop :-)
11:43 < misl> http://www.virtualization.info/2006/05/amd-launches-turion-64-x2-with-io.html
11:47 < misl> Anyone like to test a Turion X2 notebook?
11:47 < misl> http://amd-notebooks.de/blog/bewirb-dich-beim-amd-notebooktest/
11:52 < rxr> I have no blog ,-)
11:52 < rxr> open one and sign up ,-)
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11:57 < karasz> moin moin
12:05 < misl> hi karasz
12:06 < karasz> hello misl
13:11 * rxr right now wasting time diasselbing tme Apple Intel HDA audio driver
13:11 < rxr> damn junk
13:23 < misl> At least the design is okay ;-)
13:39 < rxr> yep, just that the patched alsa driver only drives the right internal speaker :-(
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14:11 < keinek> hi
14:11 < karasz> hello keinek
14:11 < keinek> HI karasz
14:12 < keinek> i need htop-0.6.2.tar.gz, i cant download from web, and Testing
14:12 < keinek> :)
14:13 < karasz> do you see www.x5.ro?
14:13 < keinek> is the last file that i need for start a compilation with RC 2.2 desktop.
14:13 < keinek> karas
14:13 < karasz> if yes, i can provide htop for you.
14:13 < keinek> karasz,
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing
14:13 < keinek> INFO: Testing
14:14 < karasz> ok 0,000?
14:14 < karasz> hmmm.
14:14 < keinek> thanks karasz
14:14 < karasz> moment.
14:14 < keinek> i will try again, perhaps is my dial up connection.
14:15 < keinek> no, the same.
14:17 < karasz> do you need 0.6.2?
14:18 < keinek> 2.2.0-rc need 0.6.2
14:18 < keinek> :)
14:18 < Baldzius> hm
14:18 < keinek> if you have this one, please send me to keinek at gmail.com
14:18 < Baldzius> gsmp really doesn't have it
14:19 < Baldzius> but it downloads from original url
14:19 < keinek> the original url doesnt work
14:19 < keinek> i will try again...
14:20 < mnemoc> keinek: query
14:20 < Baldzius> keinek: i've jus tested
14:20 < Baldzius> works for me
14:20 < karasz> keinek http://www.x5.ro/htop-0.6.2.tar.bz2
14:20 < karasz> dld manualy
14:21 < karasz> Baldzius: there is a problem with 6.2 on gsmp
14:21 < keinek> thanks karasz
14:21 < karasz> np, yw ;)
14:22 < keinek> mnemoc, i thinks was the same error with sourceforge.
14:22 < Baldzius> don't get it, what it could be ralated to
14:23 < karasz> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.2/h/htop-0.6.2.tar.gz.extck.err ....
14:23 < karasz> 0.6.1 is fine.
14:23 < keinek> sometimes the servers of sourceforge fails...
14:24 < Baldzius> oh, someone should tell rxr :)
14:25 < karasz> same with ht-0.9.2.tar.bz2.extck-err...
14:25 < keinek> misc/share/DownloadTranslations <--- change it the sourceforge server.
14:25 < keinek> # loadbalancer is working weird these days
14:25 < keinek> s,^http://.*dl.\(sourceforge\|sf\).net/,http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/,
14:26 < keinek> this lines is from old t2 tree.
14:26 < Baldzius> i think there might be more *.err
14:26 < keinek> just change the easynews, for another server, example http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/
14:26 < karasz> maybe, this 2 i see with my own wyws... ;)
14:26 < karasz> err, eyes...
14:27 < karasz> but i guess that it is not hard to grep for them...
14:27 < Baldzius> keinek: don't use easynews
14:27 < Baldzius> stinky mirror
14:27 < keinek> before try manualy what server work better.
14:27 < keinek> ok Baldzius i do.
14:27 < Baldzius> last one rxr picked one is ok
14:27 < keinek> but the mirror status change depend the coutry that we are.
14:28 < keinek> s,^http://.*dl.\(sourceforge\|sf\).net/,http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/, <---- this is the last RC 2.2 line.
14:28 < keinek> so... mesh is dont work properly.
14:28 < keinek> stinky work better Baldzius ?
14:29 < keinek> stinky is a mirror ?
14:29 < Baldzius> :)))
14:29 < keinek> :P
14:29 < Baldzius> no
14:29 < keinek> hahaha
14:29 < keinek> :)
14:29 < keinek> funny
14:29 < Baldzius> use latest in trunk
14:29 < keinek> ok
14:30 < Baldzius> heanet is also good
14:30 < keinek> ok, whatever i have all the sources for start compile a desktop system.
14:30 < keinek> :D
14:31 < Baldzius> :)
14:32 < mnemoc> keinek: stinky significa apestoso
14:32 < keinek> mnemoc, thanks mnemoc jjajaa
14:33 < keinek> mnemoc, i still waiting for the adsl... tree weeks... and i still ...
14:33 < mnemoc> :)
14:33 < keinek> here the adsl service is stinky ;)
14:35 < sepp> it is a galatic rule - all telcos and isps suck
14:44 < keinek> yesterday connect by ham radio to the radio station.
14:44 < keinek> all is by air.
14:44 < keinek> at 1200 bps
14:45 < keinek> :P
14:45 < keinek> is RETRO.
14:45 < keinek> is VINTAGE COMPUTER
14:45 < keinek> :)
14:45 < keinek> the chat is very dinamic.
14:45 < keinek> all for educational purpose.
14:46 < keinek> is like the old telephone bbs, but with hamradio.
14:50 < sepp> :)
15:16 < LMJ> hello the Chan
15:16 < karasz> bonjour LMJ
15:17 < LMJ> how are you karasz ?
15:17 < karasz> quite good, thx, and you?
15:18 < LMJ> yes, nice
15:18 < LMJ> short weekend
15:18 < LMJ> most of the weekend was 3 or 4 days in France during the May Month ;)
15:19 < karasz> this is the way :(
15:26 < CIA-3> amery * r17798 /trunk/package/shells/scponly/ (. scponly.desc): * added scponly (4.6) - A user shell for restricting remote access to scp and sftp.
15:28 < LMJ> what the best way to send update ? "svn diff" output in an attached file ?
15:28 < rxr> svn diff
15:28 < rxr> attached or inlined
15:29 < LMJ> i'm close to have something clean for you rxr ;)
15:29 < LMJ> i'm working to make your work easier ;)
15:30 < LMJ> sent to SVN
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15:51 < karasz> brb
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16:27 < keinek_> !> * Code maturity level options
16:27 < keinek_> !> *
16:27 < keinek_> !> Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers (EXPERIMENTAL) [N/y/ ..
16:27 < keinek_> !> Console input/output is redirected. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configu ..
16:27 < keinek_> !> Due to previous errors, no 1-linux26mm.log file!
16:27 < keinek_> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build syst ..
16:27 < keinek_> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux26mm.out -> 1-linux26mm.err
16:27 < keinek_> == 06/04/06 13:23:37 =[1]=> Aborted building package linux26mm.
16:27 < keinek_> -> Unmounting loop mounts ...
16:27 < keinek_> :'(
16:27 < keinek_> buaaaaa!
16:27 < keinek_> snig snif :'(
16:27 < keinek_> i dont have lucky with 2.2
16:27 < mnemoc> you can freely disable linux26mm
16:27 < keinek_> yes?
16:28 < mnemoc> yes
16:28 < keinek_> Mmmm ok, i do. And linux26 is for.??
16:28 < keinek_> sorry linux26mm*
16:40 < karasz> linux26mm is another branch of the 26 kernel.
16:41 < karasz> like linux26ac
16:41 < karasz> i guess you should be ok with the vanilla 26, no0 need for the others.
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16:53 < pale_horse> rxr, thanks for the email about the printed manual, I'm getting the live cd now to test my hardware
16:54 < rxr> well - the livecd is not exactly new
16:54 * rxr urgently needs to build a newone from 2.2.0-rc ...
16:55 < pale_horse> I only learned of t2 last night
16:56 < pale_horse> gentoo bores me
16:57 < pale_horse> according to the hardware list my mini-itx will run just fine
17:03 * sparc-kly brbrbr
17:16 < rxr> somehow I think I'm the only one noticing that the ALSA driver only drives the right speaker of the Apple MacBook and maybe even the MacBook pro
17:17 * rxr should not have trained his ears too much on music ...
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17:31 < karasz> rxr, do you think that an ibook g3 would boot T2 laright?
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18:02 < nick01> do I need the 2 cd ?
18:02 < karasz> yes.
18:02 < nick01> k :|
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18:06 < nick01> can u select what to install or it just installs everything ?
18:06 < karasz> you can select packs during the install proccess.
18:07 < nick01> aren't they divided by category like kde gnome editors internet etc too ?
18:08 < karasz> well, dunno, i never selected packs, usually i use a minimal build then emerge what i need.
18:09 < nick01> :|
18:10 < nick01> emerge ? gentoo based ?
18:11 < karasz> nah
18:11 < karasz> jus a name coincidence ;)
18:12 < nick01> lol
18:13 < sepp> they are organized, look in the package/ dir
18:15 < karasz> sepp: in the installer program?
18:16 < sepp> ahh, ok - i can not read :)
18:17 < karasz> so did you ever selected packs while installing? i did not so i cannot answer nick01s question...
18:17 < sepp> no, i build only the packages i really want
18:17 < sepp> nothing more
18:18 < karasz> ;) seems that packs selection during install is an unused option...
18:19 < nick01> I want a full working system not to compile everything but I also don't have the space to install both cds
18:25 < sepp> you can select packages, it is the last option
18:25 < sepp> iirc
18:28 < nick01> anybody tested this thing on a clamshell ibook ?
18:32 < sepp> not me, i am not even sure i know what ibook that is
18:32 < karasz> i guewss you should be fine with T2-ppc
18:33 < nick01> ibook g3 300 mhz
18:35 < sepp> well, the iso is named powerpc-g3 so i guess thats fine
18:37 < nick01> other distros refused even to boot
18:39 < sepp> ask rxr when he is around, i know nothing about ibooks
18:40 < sepp> sorry
18:41 < nick01> k
18:41 < nick01> tks
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23:53 < karasz> bon appetite LuciEatsPeople ;)
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