--- Log opened Mon May 29 00:00:17 2006 01:17 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has joined #t2 02:30 < Lucifer_arma> do I have to have cracklib on a distribution? 02:31 < Lucifer_arma> i.e. will excluding it break anything else? 02:50 < Lucifer_arma> ? the distcc option isn't there... 03:05 < karasz> moin moin 03:06 < Lucifer_arma> morning. any idea what I have to do to get the diffcc option in Config? :) 03:06 < Lucifer_arma> custom target, this time 03:06 < Lucifer_arma> *distcc 03:07 < karasz> did you tried the expert options? 03:08 < karasz> i mean the last line in the standard config, it brings up some other options, i recon that the distcc is there... 03:09 < Lucifer_arma> yeah, I tried that, no go. I think it's something I need to add to config.in or something like that to have it 03:09 < karasz> hmm... 03:10 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E125E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 03:10 < karasz> lemme look ata it a little 03:11 < karasz> i don't remember by heart ;) 03:15 < karasz> it may require some quirk in the files :( 03:16 < karasz> better wait for the guys 03:16 < Lucifer_arma> yep, it's there for generic target but not for carlinux (my custom target) 03:16 < Lucifer_arma> yeah, without distcc, I'll probably still be building when they wake up! :) 03:16 * karasz off hopefully returning in some minutes if install is right :) 03:17 < Lucifer_arma> have fun 03:25 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E141A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:25 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 03:27 * Lucifer_arma is away: smoking 03:37 * Lucifer_arma is back. 05:05 < karasz> re 05:05 < Lucifer_arma> re 05:06 < Lucifer_arma> so, if I want to include packages in my target that aren't packages in t2, is there a way to do that without adding the package to t2? 05:06 < Lucifer_arma> naturally I'll try to get added any packages I make, but in the meantime, I'm going to want to use them :) 05:06 < karasz> you can allwasys just compile them on your sistem 05:07 < karasz> using the standard ./configure mak make install 05:08 < Lucifer_arma> I want them built onto the iso image 05:08 < Lucifer_arma> and managed by stone 05:08 < karasz> than i guess you must add them 05:09 < Lucifer_arma> seems like I should make a special directory for them for my use, and then when/if they get added to t2 I can remove them from my special directory 05:09 * Lucifer_arma has to put them in svn somewhere for other people to fool with anyway 06:51 < mtr> moin 06:51 < karasz> moin mtr 06:52 < mtr> moin karasz ;) 07:55 < CIA-3> mtr * r17662 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: * added Fusion-MPT and I2O drivers to initrd 08:18 < mtr> rxr_: libiconv has shared files with uclibc 08:19 * mtr suprised, rene is using ugly libc ... :) 08:20 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@85.178.30.154] has joined #t2 08:21 < morfoh> hi 08:21 < mtr> hi morfoh 08:23 < karasz> hello kommrad ;) 08:31 < morfoh> moin mtr ... how is the big family ? :) 08:31 < morfoh> moin tavarish 08:31 < morfoh> := 08:31 < morfoh> :) 08:37 < mtr> morfoh: returned to standard circumstances - all whelps at their new home now 08:42 < morfoh> oh! hopefully you're not that sad ... and I hope the "standard crew" is well :) 08:59 < mtr> morfoh: we have some ambivalent feelings, of course we are sad about giving them away, on the other hand relieved of a burdon, you cannot imagine how time consuming these doggys are in the first weeks ... 09:18 < morfoh> mtr: oh yeah ... I just had one to take car off but I can imagine :) 09:51 -!- morfoh_ [n=morfoh@e178017176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 09:51 < mtr> some how "$SDECFG_PKG_GCC_STACKPRO" = 1 does not work for me, strange ... 09:53 < mtr> gcc atstage cross is build with --disable-libssp, but -fstack-protector is injected even in stage 1 09:53 < mtr> so 1-perl fails, ld is missing -lssp_noshared :( 10:00 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@85.178.30.154] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:00 -!- morfoh_ is now known as morfoh 10:03 < mtr> huhu, any one using SSP at trunk? 10:19 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.46.91] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:40 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.243] has joined #t2 10:54 < mtr> next one, gcc 4.1.0 has shared file with uclibc: usr/include/bits/atomicity.h: gcc uclibc 10:54 < mtr> fails at stage 2 ... :( 10:56 * mtr receiving an impression that noone is using uclibc these days 12:42 -!- xaxes|free [n=xaxes|fr@server.foonative.org] has joined #t2 12:51 -!- You're now known as rxr 13:24 < rxr> uclibc is too big for my needs 13:40 < Lucifer_arma> what's embutils for? 13:41 < rxr> normally cp,mv, ... for embedded systems 13:41 < rxr> but for modern early-userspace initrd's we also use them on normal server/desktop systems 13:41 < rxr> but just for the initrd 13:41 < rxr> (or for rescue reasons) 13:41 -!- veki [n=chatzill@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has joined #t2 13:42 < mnemoc> wb veki 13:42 < veki> hi 13:42 < veki> how are you? 13:43 < Lucifer_arma> hmm, failed to build 13:44 < Lucifer_arma> !> dmesg.c:(.text+0x12f): undefined reference to `__syscall_syslog' <--- a couple like that, what library did I miss? 13:46 < rxr> you have dietlibc ? 13:46 < mnemoc> veki: quite good, and you? 13:47 < veki> good, working a lot, money comes slow, but it comes 13:47 < veki> it will be OK' 13:47 < veki> is morfoh around 13:47 < veki> ? 13:48 < Lucifer_arma> no, glibc I think 13:48 < Lucifer_arma> X glibc 13:48 < Lucifer_arma> X glibc32 13:48 < Lucifer_arma> O dietlibc 13:48 < rxr> you disabled dietlibc ? 13:49 < rxr> (the early userspace of t2 relies on it) 13:49 < rxr> do you build for a 64bit architecture ? 13:49 < Lucifer_arma> this came from the minimal.in 13:49 < Lucifer_arma> so I should have it enabled even though I don't intend to use it? 13:49 < Lucifer_arma> no, 32bit 13:50 * Lucifer_arma hopes to have build and install dependencies separated at some point :) 13:50 < rxr> ah ok - then X glibc32 is uneffective anyway 13:50 < rxr> (it is the 32bit flavour for 64bit systems) 13:50 < rxr> dietlibc should be enabled 13:51 < Lucifer_arma> ok, enabled and restarted the build 13:51 < rxr> you should build with dietlibc, otherwise you can not use an initrd and would need to either use a static kernel config or solder your own initrd 13:51 < Lucifer_arma> so how do I get the distcc option to appear in the menu? 13:52 < rxr> enable dietcc I think ,-) 13:52 < Lucifer_arma> in Config. Fr generic target, it's there, for my custom target, it's not. :) 13:52 < Lucifer_arma> ok, lemme check 13:52 < Lucifer_arma> haha, yep :) 13:53 < CIA-3> rene * r17663 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.conf: 13:53 < CIA-3> * removed duplicate pkginstalled and pkgprefix in php.conf, introduced 13:53 < CIA-3> with r16616: enhanced php to build MySQLi support if mysql is installed 14:05 < mnemoc> thanks 14:05 < CIA-3> susan * r17664 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/stone_mod_xorg.sh: 14:05 < CIA-3> * removed obsolete X.org configuration stone module entries 14:05 < CIA-3> * added xcfgt2 as prefered configuration method 14:06 < rxr> mnemoc: you are welcome 14:07 < rxr> next I have to see if php still fails on my box here and what bit of mysql or php/configure is not perfect 14:08 < rxr> in the case someone wonders my laptop has to finish the x86-64 build that I rebuild since I accidently built the last one with O1 and debugging symbols 14:08 < mnemoc> it built flawless for me yesterday 14:08 < rxr> yes you said before 14:08 < rxr> I have no idea what php did not like on my mysql 14:08 < rxr> but it was in mysqli support detection whatever the last time I had problems 14:08 < rxr> I'll see 14:09 < mnemoc> mysqli needs a recient mysql 14:09 < rxr> when the x86-64 build finished I'll upload all at once 14:09 < rxr> mnemoc: my mysql was suppost to be HEAD - though maybe more lib64 or so 14:13 < mnemoc> mine php builds have all been x86, maybe it's a missing -L 14:13 < mnemoc> but iirc it use mysql-config 14:17 < rxr> it failed on ppc64 (...) 14:22 < CIA-3> rene * r17665 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/sanitize-retry-skip.patch: * sanitized Retry / Skip cases in the mine pkg installer 14:27 < CIA-3> rene * r17666 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.conf: 14:27 < CIA-3> * converted php.conf conditional to not use arimetic comparision to 14:27 < CIA-3> allow building without php/config.in options set 14:33 < veki> I have to go now, but I will be back later 14:33 < veki> cu 14:33 -!- veki [n=chatzill@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has left #t2 [] 15:04 < CIA-3> aldas * r17667 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-applets/ (gnome-applets.conf gnome-applets.desc): 15:04 < CIA-3> * updated gnome-applets (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 15:04 < CIA-3> * copyright update 15:05 < CIA-3> aldas * r17670 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnokii/gnokii.desc: * updated gnokii (0.6.10 -> 0.6.12) 15:05 < CIA-3> aldas * r17671 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkdoc/gtkdoc.desc: * updated gtkdoc (1.5 -> 1.6) 15:06 < CIA-3> aldas * r17672 /trunk/package/gnome2/gucharmap/ (gucharmap.conf gucharmap.desc): 15:06 < CIA-3> * updated gucharmap (1.4.4 -> 1.6.0) 15:06 < CIA-3> * copyright update 15:06 < CIA-3> aldas * r17673 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal.desc: * updated gnome-terminal (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 15:07 < CIA-3> aldas * r17668 /trunk/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * updated epiphany (2.14.1.1 -> 2.14.2) 15:09 < CIA-3> aldas * r17669 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-games/ (gnome-games.conf gnome-games.desc): 15:09 < CIA-3> * updated gnome-games (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 15:09 < CIA-3> * copyright update 15:21 < CIA-3> aldas * r17674 /trunk/package/archiver/7zip/ (7zip.conf 7zip.desc install.patch): 15:21 < CIA-3> * updated 7zip (4.37 -> 4.42) 15:21 < CIA-3> * copyright update 15:24 < karasz> re 15:24 < karasz> today's daily will be a story 15:24 < mnemoc> wb karasz 15:24 < mnemoc> please continue 15:24 < karasz> don't be afraid it is not too long 15:24 < karasz> here it goes: 15:25 < LMJ> hello guys 15:25 < karasz> Once upon a time there were five men 15:25 < karasz> named: Somebody, Anybody, Nobody, Everybody and Other 15:26 < karasz> One day they were confronted with a very important stuff to do 15:26 < karasz> so they decided that Everybody has to do it. 15:27 < Baldzius> :) 15:27 < Baldzius> even now it's funny 15:27 < mnemoc> -_- 15:27 < LMJ> mine now 15:27 < karasz> But Everybody was sure that Somebody will do it, Somebody was counting on Nobody and finaly Nobody didn't do it because it was obvious that Anybody could do it. 15:28 < mnemoc> -_- 15:29 < karasz> Then Somebody got very angry because this was a job for Everybody, Then Everybody suggested that Somebody should make Other do it despite the fact that Nobody did it, even is Anybody could do it. 15:29 < karasz> Conclusion: 15:29 < karasz> everytime the job has to be done by Other. 15:29 < Baldzius> :) 15:30 < mnemoc> o.o 15:30 < karasz> thx mnemoc for the welcoming 15:30 < karasz> and hi to everybody that i missed ;) 15:30 < mnemoc> ^_^ 15:30 < LMJ> Peat and Repeat are in a boart, Peat fall in the water, who stay in the boat ? 15:31 < mnemoc> O_O 15:31 < Baldzius> :) 15:31 * karasz wonders... 15:32 < Baldzius> /dev/null 15:32 < karasz> i gues it was the Other :D 15:32 < mnemoc> hehe 15:32 < LMJ> come onnnn 15:33 < mnemoc> Repeat stay in the boat :) 15:33 < karasz> i don't wanna. 15:33 * LMJ left the chan ;) 15:33 < mnemoc> *g* 15:51 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.243] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:58 < CIA-3> rene * r17675 /trunk/package/textproc/xmlstarlet/xmlstarlet.desc: * fixed xmlsarlet's I tag to start with a capital 16:20 < CIA-3> rene * r17676 /trunk/misc/archive/Find.sh: 16:20 < CIA-3> * fixed Find to not match case sensitive, due to bugs in GNU sed 2.5.1 16:20 < CIA-3> we need to use sed to colorize case-insensitive matches, sigh 16:36 < CIA-3> rene * r17677 /trunk/package/textproc/htmldoc/ (. htmldoc.cache htmldoc.desc): * added htmldoc (1.8.26) - Converts HTML files into indexed HTML, Adobe PostScript, or Adobe PDF files 16:37 < CIA-3> rene * r17678 /trunk/package/base/binutils/ (binutils.conf binutils.desc): * updated binutils (2.17.50.0.1 -> 2.17.50.0.2) 16:38 < CIA-3> rene * r17679 /trunk/package/base/gcc/ (gcc.conf gcc.desc): * updated gcc (4.1.0 -> 4.1.1), including removing a gcc 4.1.0 work-around 16:41 * Lucifer_arma is away: sleeping 17:22 < karasz> being one, I am entitled to laugh of transylvanians ;) 17:23 < karasz> One transylvanian guy is sitting on the porch (in was raining like hell)... 17:23 < karasz> wife comes ou: -Come on in, it is raining... 17:23 < karasz> Guy: - I know, I know, it is raining here too.... 17:23 < karasz> o_O 17:24 < Baldzius> :))) 17:27 < karasz> another one? 17:28 < Baldzius> plz 17:28 < karasz> A pair is making love. 17:29 < karasz> Suddenly a knock on the door.. 17:29 < karasz> -Quick go on the balcony, the woman said. The guy executes himself and rushes to the balcony. 17:30 < mnemoc> we do the same kind of jokes about caracterised by galicians, north-west of spaim 17:30 < mnemoc> spain 17:30 < karasz> After a while he comes back ... 17:30 < karasz> I guess we are under a lot of stress lately, wife.... 17:31 < Baldzius> :))))) 17:32 < karasz> ok, last one for today, i guess some guys here want to work ;) 17:32 < karasz> 17:32 < karasz> A man is taking a walk in Central park in New York. Suddenly he sees the 17:32 < karasz> little girl being attacked by a pit bull. He runs over and starts 17:32 < karasz> fighting with the dog. He succeds in killing the dog and saving the 17:32 < CIA-3> aldas * r17680 /trunk/package/gnome2/control-center/ (control-center.desc no_update_desktop_database.patch): 17:32 < CIA-3> * updated control-center (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 17:32 < CIA-3> * copyright update 17:33 < karasz> girls live. A policeman who was watching the scene walks over and says: 17:33 < karasz> - You are a hero, tomorrow you can read it in all the newspapers: "Brave 17:33 < karasz> New Yorker saves a little girl's life" 17:33 < karasz> - But I am not a New Yorker! 17:33 < karasz> - Oh, then it will say in newspapers in the morning: "Brave American 17:33 < CIA-3> aldas * r17681 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnopernicus/gnopernicus.desc: * updated gnopernicus (1.0.4 -> 1.1.0) 17:33 < karasz> saves a little girl's life" 17:33 < karasz> - But I am not an American. I am Afghan! 17:33 < karasz> The next day the newspapers say: 17:33 < karasz> "Islamic extremist kills American dog 17:33 < CIA-3> aldas * r17682 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.2.4 -> 2.2.5) 17:33 < CIA-3> aldas * r17683 /trunk/package/gnome2/zenity/zenity.desc: * updated zenity (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 17:33 < mnemoc> :) 17:34 < Baldzius> :)) 17:34 < karasz> although i find this a little sad... 17:34 < karasz> because it is true 17:35 < karasz> not the story I mean, but the case. 17:35 < mnemoc> ack 17:35 < karasz> hmmm, i can't let this to be the last, we need a funny one, let's make a onneliner, wel actually two liner 17:36 < karasz> How many jokes exist about blonde women? 17:36 < mnemoc> none? 17:36 < karasz> One, the rest are true stories. 17:36 < mnemoc> :p 17:42 < mnemoc> karasz: http://dl.geeks.cl/kdebase-3.5.2.tar.bz2 17:44 < karasz> dld. 17:45 < mnemoc> speed? 17:45 < karasz> installing with stone? or ? 17:46 < mnemoc> mine -i :) 17:46 < karasz> ofcourse... 17:47 < mnemoc> or tar if you are brave :) 17:47 * karasz seems that it passed a little bit too much time since i used T2 .... 17:47 < karasz> windows has the ability to moronize ppl :( 17:47 * mnemoc shuts up 17:50 < karasz> mnemoc: you don't have to. 17:50 < mnemoc> i prefer to :) 17:50 < karasz> it is your right ;) 17:56 < mnemoc> how was it? 17:57 < karasz> some skips about duplicated modified files but in rest ok 17:57 < karasz> i made the symlink and runit saw it and made the supervise for the service :) 17:58 < mnemoc> and kdm started? 18:01 < karasz> i had it started manualy before 18:01 < karasz> but i will do a logout 18:01 < karasz> brb 18:06 < karasz> oki, now I am back 18:07 < karasz> so tail is good, except the fact that kdm is in /opt/kde3/bin, not in /opt/kde3/sbin 18:07 < karasz> everything else is oki-docki 18:09 < karasz> mnemoc: corect line is `run D_bindir/kdm -nodaemon` I guess. 18:13 < mnemoc> :p 18:16 < CIA-3> amery * r17684 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/kdebase-kdm.tail: 18:16 < CIA-3> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 18:16 < CIA-3> * added runit/TAIL file for kdm 18:16 < karasz> o-O 18:17 < karasz> why is gdm.tail named gdm-gdm.tail, and for kdm the proper name is kdebase-kdm.tail? 18:17 < karasz> wait, don't tell me 18:17 < karasz> i know. 18:18 * karasz slowly catching up with thinking again... 18:18 < mnemoc> *g* 18:19 < karasz> ok, ok, it was not that hard to figure out that kdebase is the pack and kdm is the app... 18:19 < karasz> whlist first gdm is the pack and second kdm is the pack :) 18:20 < karasz> s/gdm/kdm/second sentence 18:20 < mnemoc> :) 18:58 < CIA-3> aldas * r17685 /trunk/package/gnome2/eog/eog.desc: * updated eog (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 19:06 < CIA-3> aldas * r17686 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.desc: 19:06 < CIA-3> keinek 19:06 < CIA-3> * updated xmame (0.105 -> 0.106) 19:09 < CIA-3> aldas * r17687 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/scribus.desc: * updated scribus (1.3.3.1 -> 1.3.3.2) 19:11 < CIA-3> aldas * r17688 /trunk/package/games/lbreakout2/lbreakout2.desc: * updated lbreakout2 (2.6beta-5 -> 2.6beta-6) 19:37 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178144171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:37 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 19:37 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006] 19:37 [Users #t2] 19:37 [@ChanServ] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_ ] [ xaxes|free] 19:37 [ Baldzius] [ laj_ ] [ morfoh] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar_ ] 19:37 [ CIA-3 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ tdi ] 19:37 [ dsoul ] [ Lucifer_arma] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 19:37 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 19:37 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 19:37 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 19:37 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 19:43 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178132029.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:58 < CIA-3> aldas * r17689 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkhtml/gtkhtml.desc: * updated gtkhtml (3.10.1 -> 3.10.2) 19:58 < CIA-3> aldas * r17690 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-media/ (gnome-media.conf gnome-media.desc): 19:58 < CIA-3> * updated gnome-media (2.14.0 -> 2.14.2) 19:58 < CIA-3> * copyright update 19:59 < CIA-3> aldas * r17691 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-themes/gnome-themes.desc: * updated gnome-themes (2.14.0 -> 2.14.2) 20:15 < CIA-3> aldas * r17692 /trunk/package/gnome2/pan/pan.desc: * updated pan (0.97 -> 0.99) 20:20 < CIA-3> aldas * r17693 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-desktop/ (gnome-desktop.conf gnome-desktop.desc): 20:20 < CIA-3> * updated gnome-desktop (2.14.1.1 -> 2.14.2) 20:20 < CIA-3> * copyright update 20:39 < CIA-3> aldas * r17694 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-session/ (gnome-session.conf gnome-session.desc): 20:39 < CIA-3> * updated gnome-session (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 20:39 < CIA-3> * copyright update 20:40 < karasz> guys any reaction on the logos proposed on ML? 20:41 < karasz> is it just me or it looks like a 12 or 72? 20:44 < CIA-3> aldas * r17695 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.3.47 -> 0.3.48) 20:52 < CIA-3> aldas * r17696 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-backgrounds/gnome-backgrounds.desc: * updated gnome-backgrounds (2.14.1 -> 2.14.2) 22:51 < karasz> cu guys 22:53 < morfoh> cu tavarish 22:53 < morfoh> karasz: good journey 23:19 < morfoh> vgn8 23:19 < morfoh> gn8 23:40 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178017176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Tue May 30 00:00:23 2006