--- Log opened Sun May 28 00:00:11 2006 00:32 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 00:33 < karasz> wb Lucifer_arma 00:34 < Lucifer_arma> ty, re 00:34 < Lucifer_arma> so how do I get ndiswrapper working? ;) 00:52 < morfoh> Lucifer_arma: I have never used it ... but most probably it will be configured like described on the website or documentation ... T2 should be quite similar because it doesn't change the normal way to configure a package ... mostly ;) 00:54 < Lucifer_arma> I did all the things you normally do. :) I've been using it for over a year now. Maybe my question is "How do I configure the network?" 00:54 < Lucifer_arma> after getting the ndiswrapper loaded, it's module config written, and rebooting to make sure stone picked it up, I got nothing in stone for it 00:55 < _Ragnar_> just put the module load in /etc/conf/kernel and set up the interface normally 00:56 < Lucifer_arma> there isn't an /etc/conf/kernel 00:56 < Lucifer_arma> t2-trunk, btw 00:57 < Lucifer_arma> there is an /etc/modules.d/ndiswrapper though 00:57 -!- Lucifer_arma is now known as IndianaJones 00:57 -!- IndianaJones is now known as Luci_Jones 00:58 -!- Luci_Jones is now known as Lucifer_arma 00:59 < karasz> cu on monday guys 00:59 < Lucifer_arma> ko 01:00 * karasz .oO the Texan guy is talkin to me? 01:01 < Lucifer_arma> yes? 01:01 < karasz> Lucifer_arma: what is ko? 01:01 < Lucifer_arma> slang for ok 01:01 < karasz> i mean it myust be a shorthand but from what? 01:01 < karasz> i thought it means knock-out 01:01 < Lucifer_arma> ko = ok = affirmative = yessir! 01:01 < Lucifer_arma> ko means knockout when you're talking about boxing :) 01:02 < Lucifer_arma> which we are not... 01:02 < karasz> ok, thanks ;) 01:02 < Lucifer_arma> I guess I'll boot back up into that partition and see if I can make some sense out of network config 01:02 < Lucifer_arma> bbl 01:03 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:12 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 01:13 < Lucifer_arma> ok, the module isn't there, the ndiswrapper module 01:13 < Lucifer_arma> but the ndiswrapper tool is there 01:13 < Lucifer_arma> so, how do I get the module there? Where did it install to? 01:13 * Lucifer_arma installed the ndiswrapper package in package/network/ndiswrapper 01:24 < Lucifer_arma> ok, looks like I need to recompile my kernel with ndiswrapper in it. 01:27 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:51 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178008001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:33 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 03:14 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E141A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 03:20 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.55.181] has joined #t2 03:28 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E11D93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:28 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 03:33 < Lucifer_arma> so, when I build ndiswrapper, it says I should build my kernel 03:33 < Lucifer_arma> so I built the kernel in my checkout directory, but no ndiswrapper module 03:33 < Lucifer_arma> problem is, without ndiswrapper, I have no network 03:33 < Lucifer_arma> so when I go to /usr/src/t2-trunk and build my kernel, it can't build because it can't download anything 04:20 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["Core dumped."] 04:37 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 04:38 < Lucifer_arma> hello? anybody home/ 05:00 < sepp> it is a 3rd party kernel mod and will be build as part of linux* if you have it enabled 05:08 < Lucifer_arma> how do I enable it? in Config? 05:09 < sepp> yes 05:09 < Lucifer_arma> do I have to build the whole distribution now? 05:09 < sepp> just the kernel ;) 05:09 * Lucifer_arma doesn't like the idea of waiting 2 more days for a network driver :) 05:10 < Lucifer_arma> ok, so it's on my home partition, which is currently being mounted in /media. I copied the download directory to /usr/src/t2-src and the kernel won't build there 05:10 < Lucifer_arma> but it will build in the spot on my home partition. Is it good enough that I build it there? 05:11 < sepp> some packages (like ndiswrapper) have a pkg_linux*_post.conf, extending the kernel 05:12 < sepp> oem ? 05:12 < Lucifer_arma> ? 05:13 < sepp> why does it not build somewhere? 05:13 < Lucifer_arma> when I boot into the t2 partition, the kernel won't build in /usr/src/t2-src . It wants a package that wasn't downloaded, and there's no network so I can't download it 05:14 < Lucifer_arma> I guess t2-src is just the source tarball for t2 untarred 05:14 < sepp> yes 05:14 < Lucifer_arma> but, when booted into the t2 partition, the original svn checkout still builds fine 05:14 < sepp> you can copy the files you need to /usr/src/t2-src/download/.../ 05:15 < Lucifer_arma> and it's the checkout I used to build the distribution that's now installed in t2 05:15 < Lucifer_arma> right, the problem there is that the kernel wants a file that wasn't downloaded originally 05:15 < sepp> some part of ndiswrapper? :) 05:15 < Lucifer_arma> I don't know why, and I don't remember what file it was :/ 05:15 < Lucifer_arma> no, not that I know of. doesn't look related, but could be. 05:16 < Lucifer_arma> ndiswrapper ships as a single source tarball though--I've built it from source before (had to because Mandriva's package was broken) 05:16 < Lucifer_arma> maybe if I copy my config directory too... could be a difference in configuration that's triggered it. hadn't thought of that 05:17 < sepp> you could chroot into the t2 / and look what is missing 05:17 < Lucifer_arma> tried that too. Didn't build for different reasons that time. 05:17 < Lucifer_arma> I might still have the error log from that one 05:18 < Lucifer_arma> is there any reason the build won't work if I do it in the original svn checkout directory? 05:18 < Lucifer_arma> I'm asking because when I build the ndiswrapper package originally, it was while booted into Kubuntu and built in that directory, 05:19 < Lucifer_arma> and it installed into Kubuntu and broke my network connection there for a little while, so I'm suspecting I can build from there just fine when booted into the t2 partition 05:20 < sepp> it should 05:20 < Lucifer_arma> I'll try it, thanks. :) 05:33 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["Core dumped."] 05:57 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 05:58 < Lucifer_arma> sepp: um, dumb question maybe, how do I change kernel config? :) 05:58 < sepp> there is a option in Config to load a custom kernel config 06:00 < Lucifer_arma> getting there, accidentally loaded the default config and this script runs dog slow on my machine for some reason 06:01 < sepp> that is default :( 06:01 < Lucifer_arma> So expert/experimental settings -> Linux Kernel ? 06:01 < Lucifer_arma> when I ran config originally I gave it -cfg lucifer 06:01 < sepp> "[ ] Apply custom kernel build configuration settings" 06:02 < Lucifer_arma> so when I select that, I get ,----< Linux kernel build config settings >----. 06:02 < Lucifer_arma> and 06:03 < Lucifer_arma> I originally added a rule and just put "ndiswrapper" as the rule, but that didn't appear to work 06:04 < sepp> i think that is not needed for ndiswrapper 06:04 < Lucifer_arma> then I made it "X ndiswrapper" thinking maybe the rules worked like package selection rules 06:04 < Lucifer_arma> so no rule, you say? 06:04 < sepp> no, that is CONFIG_*= 06:05 < sepp> like the .config you get when you run make menuconfig for the kernel 06:05 < Lucifer_arma> hmmm, so I should only check the box you said, and nothing else here? What happens then? Do I get make menuconfig and have to go through it when the kernel builds? 06:06 < Lucifer_arma> sorry for asking so many questions, like I said, I have no network when I do this, and rebooting is really painful. 06:07 < sepp> do not choose custom kernel config, make sure ndiswrapper is enabled in the packsge list and rebuild linux26 06:09 < sepp> that will build the kernel modules of ndiswrapper 06:09 < Lucifer_arma> ok, got it. I added to the package selection rules "X ndiswrapper" 06:09 < sepp> there are some packages extending other packages, but only when they are enabled ... 06:10 < Lucifer_arma> this is kinda making sense. :) 06:10 < Lucifer_arma> ok, so I unchecked [ ] Apply custom kernel build configuration settings" 06:11 < sepp> yes 06:11 < Lucifer_arma> I'm ready to reboot and try it? 06:11 < sepp> do you have all source files? 06:11 * Lucifer_arma suspects this stuff is easier when you're in a t2 installation as host 06:12 < Lucifer_arma> yes, I think 06:12 < Lucifer_arma> I built the ndiswrapper package already and installed it separately, using Build-Pkg 06:12 < sepp> linux-26*.tar.bz2, patch-whatever, ndiswrapper* ... 06:13 < Lucifer_arma> I've already built the kernel once from this directory, so as long as extra files aren't needed beyond what was already used to build the kernel and what comes with ndiswrapper, I'm ok 06:13 < sepp> :) 06:13 < Lucifer_arma> I suppose it wouldn't hurt me to do a Download -required, would it? 06:13 < sepp> no 06:15 < Lucifer_arma> when the new kernel is isntalled, do I need to edit grub.conf (or menu.lst, whatever it is)? 06:15 < sepp> you can use stone 06:16 < Lucifer_arma> will I need to? I have a vague memory of linux putting itself into lilo on its own, don't know about grub. But if it just overwrites the old one, no problem anyway. 06:17 < Lucifer_arma> not a problem either way, I've gotten more familiar with grub than I wanted to. I wanted it in the boot sector of the partition rather than MBR, and stone doesn't do that, apparently 06:18 < sepp> i have not used lilo for years 06:19 < Lucifer_arma> I'm finally being talked away from lilo. Kubuntu uses grub. 06:19 < Lucifer_arma> I found this thing called Simple Boot Manager though, that scans your partitions and constructs a boot menu 06:19 < Lucifer_arma> it lets you boot from cdrom too. :) I like it for that, no more fooling with the bios to boot from cd-rom 06:20 < Lucifer_arma> so I put kubuntu's grub on its partition, and now t2's grub on its. 06:20 < Lucifer_arma> ok, downloading's finished. I think I did a svn update at some point for no reason I can think of. 06:21 < Lucifer_arma> thanks for your help, I"ll be back in a few minutes, either with another problem or to announce problem solved. :) 06:21 < sepp> hehe 06:21 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["Core dumped."] 06:41 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.55.181] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:42 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.62.205] has joined #t2 07:26 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 07:27 < Lucifer_arma> yay, I have network :) 07:29 < sepp> (: 07:29 < Lucifer_arma> that kernel compile did the trick, obviously 07:29 * Lucifer_arma will have to remember to include ndiswrapper the *first* time on future builds 07:31 < sepp> or get a new nic that does not need ugly ndiswrapper 07:32 < Lucifer_arma> there's an interesting idea. And I must admit I don't like running the broadcom adapter 07:32 < Lucifer_arma> last time I priced them out, they weren't cheap, but not terribly expensive either 07:32 < Lucifer_arma> low priority in the presense of ndiswrapper, though, sorry 07:56 -!- Lucifer_arma_ [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 07:56 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:56 -!- Lucifer_arma_ is now known as Lucifer_arma 08:06 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:18 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 08:48 < Lucifer_arma> so, firefox won't build, apparently 09:23 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:48 < CIA-3> aldas * r17655 /trunk/package/develop/hte/ (gcc41.patch hotfix_libs_at_the_end.patch hte.conf hte.desc): 09:48 < CIA-3> * updated hte (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2) 09:48 < CIA-3> * removed gcc41.patch - obsolete 09:48 < CIA-3> * copyright update 09:52 < CIA-3> aldas * r17656 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (9 -> 10) 09:58 < CIA-3> aldas * r17657 /trunk/package/gnustep/sope/ (sope.conf sope.desc): 09:58 < CIA-3> * fixed sope to compile with apr*-1.x 09:58 < CIA-3> * copyright update 11:14 -!- mnemoc_ [n=amery@e178030154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 11:19 < CIA-3> aldas * r17658 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.3.10 -> 0.4.0) 11:22 -!- mnemoc_ [n=amery@e178030154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["leaving"] 11:34 < CIA-3> aldas * r17659 /trunk/package/gnome2/glabels/glabels.desc: * updated glabels (2.1.2 -> 2.1.3) 11:39 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178030154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 11:39 < morfoh> hi 11:54 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.62.205] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:00 -!- mnemoc_ [n=amery@e178030154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 12:13 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.48.61] has joined #t2 14:22 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.160.97] has joined #t2 14:22 < keinek> hi 14:24 < mnemoc_> wb keinek 14:25 < keinek> thanks mnemoc. 14:32 -!- Neobius [i=elh4ck3r@216.Red-80-36-114.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 14:32 -!- Neobius [i=elh4ck3r@216.Red-80-36-114.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #t2 [] 14:32 -!- Neobius [i=elh4ck3r@216.Red-80-36-114.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #t2 14:32 -!- Neobius [i=elh4ck3r@216.Red-80-36-114.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #t2 [] 15:01 < CIA-3> aldas * r17660 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.21 -> 5.0.22) 15:49 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 16:05 < LMJ> Hello the Chan 16:24 -!- mnemoc_ [n=amery@e178030154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 18:04 < morfoh> hi LMJ 18:05 < LMJ> moin morfoh 18:06 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.48.61] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:17 < CIA-3> aldas * r17661 /trunk/package/network/amule/amule.desc: * updated amule (2.1.1 -> 2.1.2) 18:18 < mnemoc> keinek: xmame is already at 0.105 on trunk ,-) 18:19 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.106] has joined #t2 18:20 < Baldzius> :) 18:21 < Baldzius> he's 500 commits behind :) 18:21 < mnemoc> hehe 18:22 < Baldzius> hm 18:22 < Baldzius> r17184 | aldas | 2006-04-22 11:05:29 +0000 (Sat, 22 Apr 2006) | 4 lines 18:22 < Baldzius> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa 18:22 < Baldzius> * updated xmame (0.104 -> 0.105) 18:22 < Baldzius> * copyright update 18:22 < mnemoc> .oO 18:23 < Baldzius> interesting, maybe i forgot to mention about commit in ML 18:24 < Baldzius> :))))) 18:25 < mnemoc> the problem imo is to not review before sending patches to the ML ,-) 18:25 * mnemoc slaps keinek 18:27 < Baldzius> happens 18:27 < mnemoc> :) 18:28 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.160.97] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:28 < Baldzius> bad mnemoc, you scared poor keinek :) 18:29 < mnemoc> oh 18:34 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :) 18:35 < Baldzius> moin morfoh :) 18:37 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.106] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:43 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.243] has joined #t2 18:52 -!- idealm [n=ideal@218.82.61.243] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:31 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178132029.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:31 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 19:31 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006] 19:31 [Users #t2] 19:31 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 19:31 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar_] 19:31 [ CIA-3 ] [ laj_ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_] [ tdi ] 19:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 19:31 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 19:31 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 19:31 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 19:34 < morfoh> Bambalzius ... last update is 1h 30min ago :) 19:37 < Baldzius> Bambaldzius is going to bed ... :) 19:40 < morfoh> gn8 Bambaldzius :) 19:41 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178165020.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:41 < morfoh> Baldzius: sleep well ... and don't bother the poor cow that much :) 19:41 < morfoh> Baldzius: I mean tomorrow in the morning 19:41 < Baldzius> 2 cows :) 19:41 < Baldzius> thanks morfoh, gn8 :) 19:41 < morfoh> Baldzius: then don't bother both :) 19:42 < morfoh> Baldzius: Gn8 :D 19:51 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.177.174.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:41 < morfoh> gn8 20:41 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh 21:02 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@e178030154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:10 -!- keinek [n=sergio@201.254.65.251] has joined #t2 22:10 < keinek> hi gys 22:10 < keinek> i need some help 22:10 < keinek> i be in the house of a friend 22:10 < keinek> i need the configuration for make the conection to adsl with t2 22:11 < keinek> over the eth0 interface 22:11 < keinek> one time i ask for that but i lost the logs 22:11 < keinek> anybody asleep? 22:11 < keinek> i really need help 22:19 < mnemoc> pppoe? 22:20 < mnemoc> at etc/conf/network add 22:20 < mnemoc> interface ppp0 22:20 < mnemoc> ppp eth0 22:20 < mnemoc> ppp_option defaultroute 22:21 < mnemoc> ppp_option user "your_friend@telefonica.stinks" 22:21 < mnemoc> pppoe 22:21 < mnemoc> err 22:22 < mnemoc> indent that line :p 22:22 < mnemoc> and then you have to choose if you place the password at etc/conf/network or /etc/ppp/pap-secrets 22:23 < keinek> ok, and the password in pap 22:23 < keinek> ok 22:23 < keinek> thanks again again mnemoc 22:23 < mnemoc> good luck :) 22:27 < keinek> mnemoc: in pppoe what is the err? 22:27 < mnemoc> indent it :) 22:27 < keinek> i cant understand mnemoc 22:28 < keinek> finish with pppoe? 22:28 < mnemoc> faltaron los espacios antes del comando, para que se vea bonito 22:28 < mnemoc> eso es indentar 22:28 < keinek> ok thanks 22:28 < keinek> :P 22:28 < mnemoc> your welcome 22:29 < mnemoc> i usually place the pppoe command right after the ppp eth0 line 22:29 < mnemoc> before the first ppp_option 22:29 < keinek> ok i will test 22:29 < keinek> i be back 22:29 < keinek> :P 22:37 -!- keinek [n=sergio@201.254.65.251] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:23 -!- Lucifer_arma [n=dave@user-0vvdcf9.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Mon May 29 00:00:17 2006