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05:57 < CIA-7> rene * r17362 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/publish.sh: 
05:57 < CIA-7> * fixed archivist/publish by using --seperator ' ' instead --seperate-output
05:57 < CIA-7>  to match the use of the space seperated index list
07:18 < CIA-7> chris * r17363 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (1.5.0.2 -> 1.5.0.3)
07:39 < CIA-7> chris * r17364 /trunk/package/network/nagios/nagios.desc: * updated nagios (2.2 -> 2.3)
08:02 < mtr> moin
08:12 < CIA-7> mtr * r17365 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-linux-fusion/ (5 files): 
08:12 < CIA-7> * updated dfb-linux-fusion (1.1 -> 3.0)
08:12 < CIA-7> * copyright update
08:17 < CIA-7> mtr * r17366 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/kernel-usb-hotfix.patch: 
08:17 < CIA-7> * fixed lirc kernel module
08:17 < CIA-7> * struct usb_driver has .owner removed, patch taken from lirc CVS
08:21 < CIA-7> mtr * r17367 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/postlinux.conf: * fixed nvidia kernel module, build without -Werror
08:22 < CIA-7> susan * r17368 /trunk/package/gnome2/desktop-file-utils/desktop-file-utils.desc: * updated desktop-file-utils (0.10 -> 0.11)
08:23 < tdi> re guys, mosieurs
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09:34 < morfoh> hi
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09:41 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
09:41 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006]
09:41 [Users #t2]
09:41 [@ChanServ] [ laj    ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr  ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar_] 
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09:41 [ idealm  ] [ michal`] [ mtr   ] [ sepp_] [ valentin ] 
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09:41 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 19:15:33 2004
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09:43 < karasz> moin
09:43 < tdi> czesc
09:44 < tdi> moin is not in en so i use pl
09:44 < tdi> how is moin in Romanian ?
09:44 < morfoh> moin tavarish karasz 
09:44 < karasz> huh?
09:45 < karasz> czesc is what in pl?
09:45 < tdi> czesc - hi
09:45 < karasz> but you are right, moiun is not roamnian, it is #T2
09:45 < karasz> kommrad, good to see you.
09:46 < karasz> hope that this is a better day than yesterday ;)
09:46 < karasz> then czesc to you to tdi ;)
09:47 < tdi> moin is not t2
09:47 < tdi> i have seen it on many channels
09:48 < karasz> ok, ok, i didn't said that it was invented on T2, i just said the it is used here....goosh, tdi give me a break, i just said hello.
09:48 < karasz> i am stil at the morning coffee stage, so bare with me.
09:49 < tdi> ok
09:49 < tdi> :)
09:49 < karasz> kommrad, claws workin again?
09:51 < tdi> sylpheed?
09:51 < rxr_> moin all
09:52 < tdi> moin
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09:56 < karasz> moin rxr 
10:02 < rxr> moin karasz and tdi
10:10 < morfoh> moin rxr 
10:12 < morfoh> karasz: the problem is even with sylpheed not just claws
10:13 < karasz> should I understand that you still have problems?
10:14 < morfoh> karasz: seems that your coffee is enlightening you :)
10:14 < karasz> :D
10:14 < karasz> but then again :( sorry to hear that...
10:15 < morfoh> yeah ... one of the latest updates here seem to be responsible for that
10:16 < morfoh> sylpheed people mentioned to downdate pango but no success with that
10:17 < tdi> i dropped sylpheed claws because of imap problems
10:17 < tdi> i have used it for 3 years
10:18 < morfoh> tdi: I didn't experienced problems using imap 
10:18 < morfoh> tdi: what kind of problems ?
10:18 < tdi> i forgot 
10:18 < tdi> i switched to this damn thunderbird evil thing
10:18  * tdi hates all mozilla products
10:18 < karasz> firefox was neet.
10:19 < tdi> was
10:19 < tdi> opera roxx
10:19 < morfoh> tdi: I'd like to avoid switching to the *FAT* thunderbird
10:19  * karasz does not lik ethunderbird.
10:20 < tdi> thunderbird is a shit
10:20 < tdi> but works
10:20 < tdi> there are not reasonable mail clients for linux
10:20  * karasz oh, oh it seems that i need more coffee to be able to type... :(
10:20 < tdi> either big fat joes like thunderb or this gnome e something or some shitty things like balsa
11:30 < rxr> tdi: kmail is a quite nicely lightweight alternative to thunderbird
11:30 < tdi> rxr: yes
11:30 < tdi> it is
11:30 < tdi> but when i change kde to e17 peramently 
11:31 < tdi> i won;t be using it
11:31 < tdi> but you are right 
11:31 < tdi> lets try kmail
11:31 < tdi> Total size of downloads: 39,615 kB
11:31 < tdi> nope
11:31 < tdi> :)
11:31 < tdi> i do not want i 
11:31 < tdi> ive got very basic kde
11:31 < tdi> kdebase+libs
11:32 < tdi> do not want more
11:32 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... kmail is nice ... if it would be possible to install it standalone
11:32 < tdi> yes
11:32 < tdi> qt based only
11:32 < morfoh> rxr: btw, I guess we've a major problem with gtk+ apps
11:32 < rxr> morfoh: ... if it would be possible to have one gecko and NS* per system ...
11:33 < morfoh> already noticed that gimp fails too
11:33 < rxr> fails in what way?
11:33 < rxr> I use it every day
11:33 < morfoh> rxr: when did you rebuild it last time ?
11:34 < morfoh> rxr: I've installed a fresh image
11:34 < morfoh> inkscape fails too
11:34 < rxr> an you elaborate on the problem itself ?
11:35 < morfoh> ekiga fails too
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11:36 < rxr> morfoh: when you do not define "fail" there is not much I can help
11:37 < morfoh> rxr: mom
11:37 < morfoh> rxr: memory access problems afaics
11:40 < morfoh> rxr: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/rn4gkV45.html
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11:41 < sepp> hello
11:42 < morfoh> hello sepp 
11:42 < tdi> hello brown coal man
11:42 < morfoh> :D
11:42 < rxr> morfoh: hm
11:42 < morfoh> #0  textview_create () at textview.c:292
11:42 < morfoh> #1  0x080f7f15 in messageview_create (mainwin=0x82b4108) at messageview.c:347
11:42 < morfoh> #2  0x080ecdd3 in main_window_create (type=SEPARATE_NONE) at mainwindow.c:1139
11:42 < morfoh> #3  0x080e79f1 in main (argc=Cannot access memory at address 0x1
11:42 < morfoh> ^rxr this is from claws
11:43 < sepp> :)
11:44 < morfoh> sepp: yeah yeah ... funny brown coal sepp :)
11:49 < tdi> morfoh: sorry for asking but i got info that till today i need conspect so i can send it to my piwo boss
11:49 < tdi> it can be at 23 or even 00 
11:50 < morfoh> ok
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12:52 < rxr> morfoh: with gimp and gtk+ and their deps emerged on my x86-64 gimp still works
12:54 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm ... strange. any idea what else else could I test ?
12:54 < morfoh> rxr: I guess your using latest xorg stuff ... right ?
12:57 < rxr> morfoh: throw some time in gdb on the problem ,-)
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13:03 < CIA-7> chris * r17369 /trunk/package/network/vnuml/vnuml.desc: * updated vnuml (1.6.2-1 -> 1.6.4-1)
13:50 < karasz> hmm... Mahogany anyone?
13:54 < mnemoc> karasz: you? :)
14:03 < sepp> mahogany computer case?
14:03 < mnemoc> the mail client i guess
14:05 < sepp> :)
14:09 < sepp> interesting name for a mail client - thought its some wood
14:09 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahogany
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14:38 < karasz> uh...
14:38 < karasz> i was interested if anyone used it...
14:38 < karasz> mahogany I mean...
14:40 < mnemoc> *g*
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15:28 < CIA-7> chris * r17370 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.4 -> 0.9.5)
15:30 < karasz> cu latter guys.
15:30 < morfoh> cu tavarish
15:30 < mnemoc> cu later aligator
15:31 < mnemoc> alligator
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15:51 < LMJ> moin moin
15:51 < mnemoc> moin LMJ 
15:52 < LMJ> hello mnemoc 
15:52 < LMJ> how are you ?
15:52 < morfoh> LMJ: hi joda master :)
15:52  * morfoh hides again
15:53  * LMJ should piss on morfoh again ?
15:53 < morfoh> LMJ: if the pressure is that high to bridge hundreds of km's ... go and try :)
15:54 < LMJ> hehe
15:54 < morfoh> :)
15:54 < LMJ> i should give a try
15:55  * morfoh grabs an umbrella
15:55 < LMJ> don't worry, it should arrive in a couple of hours
15:56 < morfoh> LMJ: but I guess just some hot steam will arrive then 
15:56 < LMJ> ;)
15:58 < LMJ> no kerberos5 on t2 ?
15:58 < LMJ> nor the "mod_auth_krb5" lib for apache (2.X) ?
15:58 < morfoh> LMJ: what is heimdal ?
16:01 < morfoh> cat package/security/heimdal/heimdal.desc
16:01 < LMJ> yes yes
16:01 < morfoh> Heimdal is an implementation of Kerberos 5
16:01 < LMJ> why use this implementation ?
16:01 < morfoh> because it's mature
16:02 < LMJ> not the kerberos one ?
16:04 < mnemoc> threads support and exportation restrictions
16:04 < LMJ> ok
16:05 < LMJ> So, is it usefull that i try to make a package for "mod_auth_krb5", who is a library for apache 2 ?
16:07 < mnemoc> sure
16:07 < mnemoc> go for it :)
16:10 < LMJ> another question
16:10 < LMJ> i see a NIS client (ypbind) on the packages
16:10 < LMJ> Is there a NIS server packaged ?
16:10 < mnemoc> echo package/*/yp*
16:11 < LMJ> HA HA HA
16:11 < LMJ> good
16:11 < LMJ> i see some pam_krb5, pam_ldap, pam too
16:12 < LMJ> ok, the work is almost done ;)
16:12 < LMJ> VIVA T2
16:12 < mnemoc> :)
17:03 < CIA-7> sebastian * r17371 /trunk/package/network/valknut/valknut.conf: * fixed valknut for lib64 architectures
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18:20 < tdi> re
18:23 < tdi> morfoh: conspect , just to remember :P
18:24 < karasz> re
18:26 < karasz> btw mnemoc I am not an alligator. bat maybe, but alligator...??
18:42 < mnemoc> :)
19:18 < LMJ> the mod_auth_krb5 will be not for today :-/
19:45 < mnemoc> :(
20:33 < sepp> i installed last night mnemosyne - somehow half of the files in /etc/ have strange permissions :/
20:34 < sepp> even /etc/profile is 600 
20:34 < sepp> ?
20:38 < sepp> should not be /etc/profile be world readable?
20:44 < sepp> 1/3 files in /etc has interesting permissions
20:56 < mnemoc> that can't be mnemosyne related
20:57 < sepp> sorry - i did not wanted to blame mnemosyne, i only wanted to describe what i build
21:03 < sepp> udev works this time, even if the usb stick or camera is attatched at boot time
21:06 < sepp> well - beside some strange permissions in /etc it works fine
21:16 < mnemoc> :)
21:23 < karasz> since yesterday I missed it, here is the daily:
21:23 < karasz> `Everything is funny, you just have to have the right angle.`
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21:29 < karasz> wb veki 
21:29 < veki> hi
21:29 < veki> how are you?
21:30 < karasz> fine thank you, how about you?
21:30 < veki> working a lot, preparing for one conference, I wrote article for it etc. and just listening recorded lecture by Ray Kurzweil
21:33 < karasz> thank god for wikipedia ;)
21:37 < veki> this one is mp3 file recorded at one university.  it i sfree so if you like to have it I will give you link
21:37 < veki> it is big because it is hour of lecture and discussion
21:39 < karasz> sorry i had to do something in the mean time.
21:39 < karasz> lecture about OCR? or sound related?
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21:40 < mnemoc> wb morfoh_ 
21:40 < karasz> kommrad ;)
21:41 < veki> hi
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21:42 < morfoh> don't greet renick :)
21:44 < morfoh> karasz: but thanks tavarish :)
21:44 < karasz> kommrad, it wasn't a greeting, just a `hurray you managed to change back your nick` ;)
21:45 < tdi> morfoh: :))))))))))
21:45 < tdi> need it today ...
21:45 < karasz> well, look who is lurkin' around....
21:46 < morfoh> tdi: I send it some minutes ago 
21:46 < tdi> ohh 
21:46 < tdi> sorrrrryyy
21:46 < tdi> i was watching film
21:46 < morfoh> lazy you :p
21:46 < morfoh> :)
21:47 < karasz> seems that lazyness is contagious.....
21:47 < karasz> tdi watchout, you can still escape from it ;)
21:49 < tdi> yes i can 
21:50 < karasz> `I know the perfect recepie to get rid of lazyness, but i am just too lazy to follow it.`
21:51 < mnemoc> o_O
21:51 < karasz> hm?
21:51 < tdi> karasz: but you were;nt lazy to write it here :)
21:51 < karasz> :D
21:52 < karasz> i pasted it ;P
21:52 < tdi> lol
21:53 < veki> lol
21:53 < karasz> btw
21:53 < karasz> where is master updater?
21:53 < karasz> haven't seen him in a while...
21:54 < mnemoc> resting
21:54 < veki> :)
21:54 < morfoh> he has a vistitor afaik, which is more important than the crappy people at t2 :)
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21:55  * morfoh hides to not get slapped 
21:55 < morfoh> :)
21:55 < mnemoc> :)
21:55 < karasz> mnemoc: i hope that it is not as creepy as it sounded...
21:56 < morfoh> karasz: what do you mean ? o_O
21:56 < karasz> kommrad, what did mnemoc did to gun boy?
21:58 < karasz> did you saw that `resting`? which sounded so shadowy and creepy, and did you saw the little grin on mnemocs' face?
21:58 < mnemoc> :)
21:58 < mnemoc> i'm too tired for smiling
21:58 < karasz> it almost sounded like `resting with the fishs`
21:58 < mnemoc> :D
22:01 < morfoh> karasz: mnemoc was eating a lot of fat "fishes" today
22:01 < karasz> O_O
22:01 < morfoh> but the best I didn't told you yet ... 
22:02 < mnemoc> morfoh: but you took the fatter
22:03 < morfoh> the chilean experience with chili
22:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: that's not true
22:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: :)
22:03 < morfoh> now we can call a real chilean :)
22:03 < morfoh> him
22:04 < mnemoc> :)
22:04 < morfoh> it  was quite funny to see him suffering :)
22:04 < veki> guys I have to go to sleep, cu tomorrow
22:04 < karasz> cu veki 
22:04 < veki> cu
22:04 < morfoh> cu veki 
22:04 < karasz> we will continue working ;)
22:05 < veki> Oh good ;)
22:05 < morfoh> karasz: yes :)
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22:05 < karasz> reminds me of an old slogan... `Celebrating through work...`
22:06 < morfoh> sounds more than "celebrating to avoid work ..." :)
22:06 < morfoh> but yes ... I've to check my gtk issue
22:06 < morfoh> :/
22:07 < karasz> go go go
22:07 < morfoh> karasz: it's more like hobbling :)
22:07 < karasz> huh?
22:07 < morfoh> yeah ... this problem is weired 
22:08 < karasz> might that it requires the sacrifice of a large amount of small furry animals?
22:09 < morfoh> I don't know what you're taling about ... but at least you seem to have nice animals in .ro :)
22:09 < karasz> ?
22:09 < morfoh> or did you talked about yourself ? :)
22:09  * morfoh hides
22:10 < karasz> o_O... i am small, maybe I am an animal too, but furry?
22:10 < morfoh> karasz: who knows ? :)
22:10 < karasz> c'mon, guys... today I was already an alligator, wonder what comes next.....
22:14 < mnemoc> bat
22:15 < karasz> nah
22:15 < karasz> that was me
22:42 < karasz> well, alligator-bat-whatever-comes-next is returning to work, cu all tomorrow ;)
22:43 < mnemoc> cu karasz 
22:50 < morfoh> cu karasz :)
23:51 < morfoh> gn8
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