T2 IRC Log: 2006-04-07

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--- Log opened Fri Apr 07 00:00:47 2006
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00:56 < keinek> hi
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06:59 < mnemoc> moin
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08:47 < CIA-9> rene * r16781 /trunk/misc/target/output/livecd/init:
08:47 < CIA-9> * improved livecd init to not only accept devices marked as removable,
08:47 < CIA-9> which excludes USB attached hard discs, including micro drives, but
08:47 < CIA-9> any usb or ieee1394 device
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09:02 < Stelz> hello guys
09:04 < mnemoc> hi Stelz
09:04 < Stelz> mnemoc: tell me
09:04 < mnemoc> me
09:04 < Stelz> is there any package-management in t2?
09:05 < mnemoc> `mine` and `bize`
09:05 < rxr> and build for source
09:05 < Stelz> what's that?
09:05 < mnemoc> what?
09:06 < Stelz> mine
09:06 < Stelz> or bize
09:06 < Stelz> any more info about them?
09:07 < mnemoc> they are like `rpm`, you give it a prebuilt package and in installs or update. then you can list, query or remove
09:07 < Stelz> i think.. i'll switch from netbsd.. to "the best distro from the best os" (t2)... © Stelz
09:07 < mnemoc> :)
09:07 < Stelz> :)
09:08 < Stelz> but i need.. building from source
09:08 < Stelz> i hate binaries :)
09:08 < Stelz> any smthng like pkgsrc?
09:08 < mnemoc> pff
09:08 < mnemoc> T2 itself
09:08 < Stelz> ?
09:08 < Stelz> hm
09:09 < Stelz> well.. how i can install any pkgs on my t2-box?
09:09 < Stelz> 2.1.1.1 for example.. is installed..
09:09 < Stelz> & i need to install more
09:09 < mnemoc> from your T2 tree, using Emerge-Pkg or Build-Pkg
09:09 < Stelz> hm
09:10 < Stelz> & how i can update my t2-tree?
09:10 < Stelz> svn?
09:11 < mnemoc> yep
09:11 < Stelz> there r all of packages?
09:11 < Stelz> hm.. ok
09:11 * Stelz Date/Time is now [ Fri Apr 7 13:16:59 ]
09:12 * Stelz @ work
09:12 < Stelz> i think.. i'll be on t2 on the next week :)
09:12 < Stelz> but i still need xfs support..
09:14 < mnemoc> and what'S the problem?
09:14 < Stelz> must i modprobe xfs before the installation?
09:14 < mnemoc> i guess not, but if it doesn't work at the first try, do modprobe on the second :)
09:15 < Stelz> hm.. any updates soon?
09:15 < mnemoc> you need to load the modules from the 'Stage 1' of the installer
09:15 < Stelz> like 2.1.1.2 or 2.1.2 ?
09:15 < Stelz> & what about of 2.2 state?
09:15 < Stelz> is it stable?
09:15 < mnemoc> i plan to have a 2.1.2, but i have not dedicated time to that on the last 2 months
09:16 < mnemoc> usable yes, stable no.
09:16 < Stelz> hm
09:16 < Stelz> 2.1.2 coming soon?
09:16 < mnemoc> not in the next month
09:16 < Stelz> in june or later?
09:16 < mnemoc> i need to settle down here before spending time on that
09:17 < mnemoc> no idea
09:17 < Stelz> mnemoc: :)
09:17 < Stelz> mnemoc: later or earlier, just tell me :)
09:17 < mnemoc> never earlier
09:17 < Stelz> :)
09:18 < Stelz> k
09:18 * Stelz 'll be on 2.1.1.1
09:18 < mnemoc> :)
09:18 < mnemoc> you can try from svn 2.1-test
09:18 < Stelz> but dunno
09:18 < Stelz> what's better
09:18 < Stelz> to dl 2.1.1.1-minimal
09:19 < Stelz> or try to recompile current 2.1.1.1 stable branch on netbsd
09:19 < Stelz> i think.. the first one..
09:19 < mnemoc> yep
09:19 < mnemoc> i guess T2 has never been tested on a BSD machine
09:19 < Stelz> :)
09:20 < Stelz> i hope
09:20 < Stelz> t2
09:20 < Stelz> will never die
09:20 < mnemoc> :)
09:20 < mnemoc> i hope that to
09:20 * Stelz wants to create a new logo for t2
09:21 < mnemoc> everyone wants that
09:21 < Stelz> any results?
09:23 < Stelz> &
09:24 < Stelz> what's the difference betwwen p4 & pmmx :D
09:24 < Stelz> *ee
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09:25 * Stelz pings Stelz
09:25 * Stelz pings mnemoc
09:25 * Stelz calls mnemoc
09:25 < Stelz> hm..
09:25 < mnemoc> ?
09:26 < Stelz> look up ^^
09:26 < mnemoc> p4 = pentium 4
09:26 < mnemoc> pmm = pentium mmx
09:26 < Stelz> k, thx
09:26 < Stelz> 13:26 | mnemoc> everyone wants that
09:26 < Stelz> 13:26 | Stelz> any results?
09:26 < mnemoc> pmmx is the maximal common denominator between AMD and intel
09:27 < Stelz> argh.. i see
09:27 < mnemoc> Stelz: http://t2.ixplanet.de/t2
09:28 < Stelz> hm..
09:28 < Stelz> so.. kiddy
09:29 < Stelz> i'll try smthng later.. wanna create the perfect logo ;)
09:29 < mnemoc> good luck
09:29 < Stelz> mnemoc: should i?
09:30 < mnemoc> what?
09:30 < Stelz> try to devel smthng
09:30 < Stelz> i'm about t2-logo
09:30 < mnemoc> sure
09:31 < Stelz> :)
09:35 < Stelz> hehe, guys
09:36 < Stelz> ia said that i'll be back
09:36 < Stelz> :>
09:36 < Stelz> *i
09:36 < Stelz> & now is the time for it..
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09:45 < rxr> mnemoc: ppmx is by no means the maximal common denom ...
09:45 < rxr> what makes you think that ...
09:45 < rxr> for the latest Athlons this is even pentium4
09:46 < rxr> that is athlons even include SSE and the later SSE2 as well
09:46 < rxr> for the younger CPUs it is at least pentium pro (mostly conditional moves, CMOV)
09:48 < mnemoc> good to know, i have never (well... for to weeks i did) used an AMD machine, and that was the reason i got years ago to build pmmx instead of ppro
09:51 < rxr> .o(only people with too much money throw it onto Intel ...)
09:56 < Stelz> :)
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10:23 < Stelz> hm..
10:23 * Stelz like sqlite.. for sqlite maintainers: sqlite 3.3.5 released :>
10:23 < Stelz> *likes
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10:24 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
10:25 < morfoh> thx mnemoc
10:25 < Stelz> :D
10:25 < Stelz> hi, morfoh
10:25 < Stelz> :)
10:25 < Stelz> good news
10:25 < morfoh> hi Stelz :)
10:25 < Stelz> i'lll return to t2
10:25 < Stelz> soon
10:25 < Stelz> *'ll
10:25 < morfoh> did you left ? :)
10:26 * Stelz @ work
10:26 < Stelz> i just downloaded 2.1.1.1 iso
10:26 < Stelz> & uploaded it 2 home
10:27 < Stelz> this weekend 'll be spent on installing & configuring t2 :>
10:29 < morfoh> have fun :)
10:31 < Stelz> :)
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11:41 < karasz> moin
11:42 < CIA-9> rene * r16782 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (iso2stick.sh publish.sh): * added immediate USB device installation to the archivisat publishing
11:44 < CIA-9> aldas * r16783 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.2.9 -> 2.2.10)
11:45 < CIA-9> aldas * r16784 /trunk/package/network/bacula/bacula.desc: * updated bacula (1.38.6 -> 1.38.7)
11:45 < Baldzius> hi karasz
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11:46 < morfoh> re hi :)
11:46 < Baldzius> hi morfoh
11:49 < CIA-9> chris * r16785 /trunk/package/e17/entrance/entranced_X11.patch: * added a patch for entrance which replaces the hardcoded X11R6 path to X11 to be able to run entranced with modular Xorg on T2
11:52 < CIA-9> aldas * r16786 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/fluxbox.desc: * updated fluxbox (0.9.15 -> 0.9.15.1)
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12:00 < karasz> mon all again.
12:00 < karasz> moin I meant
12:00 < morfoh> moin tavarish karasz :)
12:01 < karasz> glad to see that you are happy kommrad morfoh
12:02 < morfoh> yeah ... thanks. hopefully you're happy too :)
12:02 < karasz> :(
12:03 < morfoh> this doesn't look promissing
12:03 < karasz> yeah, it doesn't
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13:51 < mnemoc> f*!
13:51 < mnemoc> i lost the architecture choosing
13:52 < mnemoc> what the f*
13:52 < mnemoc> arg
14:10 < mnemoc> uhm...
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15:04 < CIA-9> amery * r16787 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/ (lvm2.conf lvm2.desc lvm2.postinstall): * added postinstall for lvm2 package, and updated copyright notes
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16:52 < misl> hi folks
16:54 < misl> rxr, mnemoc, morfoh: T2 head seems to have a lot of checksum errors (101 on my list)
16:54 < misl> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/P1cE6349.html
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18:13 < misl> hmm, not much trafic today :)
18:13 < mnemoc> :)
18:17 < morfoh> hi misl :)
18:17 < misl> hi mnemoc
18:17 < misl> hi morfoh
18:17 < misl> have you seen my list at http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/P1cE6349.html
18:26 < mnemoc> ugly list you have, using a mirror?
18:27 < LMJ> hello guys
18:27 < misl> hi LMJ
18:27 < misl> mnemoc: I am not sure
18:27 < LMJ> hello misl & mnemoc
18:27 < misl> some might be mirror, but I seed some coming from the origanal authors
18:27 < misl> seed = seen
18:28 < misl> mnemoc: LibXau needs to be added to the list as well, since I already corrected it locally
18:29 < mnemoc> the checksums can'T be 'corrected'
18:29 < mnemoc> if the file changed you have to introduce an 'update'
18:29 < _Ragnar_> hmm did someone notice a problem with orbit2 and the recent make update?
18:30 < misl> mnemoc: I noticed a discussion with a problematic checksum earlier this week
18:30 < misl> But without the original download I can not figure out what the difference between both is
18:32 < mnemoc> let me fetch your list to calculate my checksums
18:35 < mnemoc> sed -e 's,.*/,,g' -e 's,.cksum-err,,g' P1cE6349.txt
18:45 < mnemoc> aaaarg.... damn bash :(
18:46 < misl> Uhh?
18:57 < mnemoc> + '[' '!' -f $'/voldata/src/trunk-mnemoc/download/mirror/l/libXt-1.0.0.tar.bz2\r' ']
18:57 < mnemoc> ^---- it was downloaded at DOS file :\
18:57 < mnemoc> as
19:00 < mnemoc> misl: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hdjYbP60.html
19:17 < misl> mnemoc: nice list, but how can I compare it to my failed downloads?
19:18 < misl> This would have to want till tomorrow anyway, since noisy is down
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20:08 * misl off to bed, cu all
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20:33 < mnemoc> rxr_: what output from lspci do we need for patching a module to be rockplug++ friendly?
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20:56 < rxr_> mnemoc: you mean auto loaded ?
20:56 < rxr_> it need to have a id table in the module section
20:56 < rxr_> so
20:57 < rxr_> now that I have fiddled out how to use this blue tooth stuff the hard core way DSL is working here again ...
20:57 -!- You're now known as rxr
20:57 < rxr> life
20:57 < rxr> GSM/GPRS over bluetooth that is ...
20:59 < CIA-9> rene * r16788 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-net.conf.m4: * fixed the kernel-net config to really enable CONFIG_BT_RFCOMM_TTY
21:09 < CIA-9> rene * r16789 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug:
21:09 < CIA-9> * honor hotplug lock in archivista according to the recently added
21:09 < CIA-9> publishing feature
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21:18 < mnemoc_> finally
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21:19 < rxr> so, this is just a tiny cell test
21:19 * rxr saving the hackery to a file this time, so it does not take so much time to reread the blue source
21:19 < rxr> n8 all
21:20 < karasz> gn8 rxr
21:20 < karasz> and moin to all
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22:20 < morfoh> re hi
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