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07:11 < morfoh> moin moin
07:14 < mnemoc> moin morfoh 
07:19 < morfoh> moin mnemoc :)
07:29 < mnemoc> the aqbacking and friends did a release orgy today
07:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: if it's just a "release orgy" :/
07:30 < morfoh> :)
07:30 < mnemoc> :)
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08:09 < morfoh> bbl :)
08:09 < Stelz> hi all
08:09 < Stelz> cya, morfoh ;)
08:09 < morfoh> Stelz: hi "atomlenin"
08:10 < Stelz> :)
08:10 < Stelz> hehe
08:10 < morfoh> Stelz: btw, what kind of name is that ?
08:10 < Stelz> i bought a public ip
08:10 < Stelz> yesterday
08:10 < Stelz> :>
08:10 < morfoh> :)
08:10 < Stelz> gigi
08:10  * Stelz Trance X Station @ [ http://vex.oze.net:8000/listen.ogg ]
08:10 < Stelz> ;>
08:10  * Stelz IRC Server / VEXnet @ [ irc://vex.oze.net:6667 ]
08:10 < morfoh> ok cya :)
08:10 < Stelz> :>
08:10 < Stelz> ftp & http coming soon
08:10 < Stelz> cya
08:10 < morfoh> :)
08:22 < rxr> re
08:22 < Stelz> hi, rxr ;)
08:26 < mnemoc> wb rxr
08:26 < mnemoc> hi atomlenin
08:31 < CIA-18> amery * r16034 /trunk/package/base/sam/sam_config.lua: * cleaned sam_config.lua, because we can define the keys explicitly in the {} syntax
09:24 < mnemoc> *yawn*
09:26 < Stelz> hello, mnemoc :)
09:26 < Stelz> nice set @ my station :)
09:26 < owl> moin
09:26 < Stelz> moin, owl ;)
09:26 < Stelz> mnemoc: wanna lin? :)
09:26 < Stelz> *lisn
09:26 < Stelz> :)
09:26 < mnemoc> moin atomlenin, and owlita
09:26 < mnemoc> Stelz: no thanks
09:26 < Stelz> tunnel trance force.. mm :)
09:27 < Stelz> nice german sets.. :)
09:27 < Stelz> nice german album, i mean :)
09:28 < owl> hi Stelz, mnemoc 
09:34 < mnemoc> owl: so, did you hit him?
09:34 < mnemoc> owl: do you have dirty blood on your dead harddirve?
09:34 < mnemoc> harddrive*
09:35 < CIA-18> rene * r16035 /trunk/ (package/base/linux24/linux24.conf scripts/functions.in): 
09:35 < CIA-18> * fixed 3rd party kernel module sub-package building once and for all
09:35 < CIA-18>  (with overly ugly shell hackery due to undefined bash behaviour)
09:36 < rxr> # l src.linux26.default.200603* -d | wc -l
09:36 < rxr> 18
09:43 < mnemoc> oh
09:48 < owl> mnemoc: nope :) 
09:51 < mnemoc> :(
10:05 < CIA-18> rene * r16036 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (210 -> 211)
10:13 < CIA-18> rene * r16037 /trunk/package/e17/ (imlib2/imlib2.desc imlib2_loaders/imlib2_loaders.desc): 
10:13 < CIA-18> * updated imlib2 (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
10:13 < CIA-18> * updated imlib2_loaders (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
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10:27 < jsaw> re
10:30 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 
10:30 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
10:31 < jsaw> mnemoc: iirc lua byte-code is architecture dependant, so only luac for CROSSBUILD == 0... ?
10:31 < jsaw> mnemoc: shall I commit?
10:32 < mnemoc> oh
10:32 < mnemoc> ok, go for it :)
10:33 < CIA-18> jsaw * r16038 /trunk/package/base/sam/sam.conf: 
10:33 < CIA-18> * iirc lua byte-code is arch dependant and can produce strange
10:33 < CIA-18>  results when cross-compiling (so, use scripts if cross-compiling)
10:33 < jsaw> mnemoc: have you seen my last change to sam.lua?
10:34 < jsaw> (r16028)
10:35 < jsaw> mnemoc: and a question: why do you load lfs locally inside a function? and why do you assign a local variable?
10:36 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> jsaw: thanks for the 'or' thing, i dind't know that
10:36 < jsaw> oh, my irssi was shut off...
10:37 < mnemoc> because i don'T need it later,... but i'm just learning this thing... what do you suggest?
10:38 < jsaw> does lua dl-unloading? 
10:38 < jsaw> I don't think so...?!?!?
10:39 < jsaw> I think 
10:39 < jsaw> require "lfs"
10:39 < jsaw> at the front is enough
10:39 < mnemoc> it keeps a'copy' at package._loaded[]
10:39 < jsaw> (front of the file I mean)
10:39 < mnemoc> require "lfs"    is lfs=require('lfs')
10:39 < mnemoc> but if you want it 'global' i'm ok with that
10:39 < jsaw> depends on the module, but in the case of lfs, yes
10:40 < mnemoc> lfs=lfs() :)
10:40 < jsaw> mnemoc: try:
10:40 < jsaw> x = require"lfs"
10:40 < jsaw> y = lfs.dir('.')
10:41 < jsaw> lfs has put itself into the global "lfs" variable...
10:41 < mnemoc> > print(x)
10:41 < mnemoc> table: 0x8071b18
10:41 < mnemoc> > print(lfs)
10:41 < mnemoc> table: 0x8071b18
10:41 < mnemoc> uhm
10:41 < mnemoc> yuck
10:42 < jsaw> so, require "lfs" is enough...
10:42 < jsaw> Marlene wants to get home from kindergarden, I'll be back later
10:42 < mnemoc> damn ugly module
10:42 < mnemoc> jsaw: cu
10:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, not ugly, that's standard behaviour
10:43 < mnemoc> self-globalization?
10:43 < mnemoc> ugly as self-daemonization imo
10:44 < jsaw> it's more like loading a namespace...
10:44 < jsaw> cu later
10:45 < mnemoc> cu
10:51 < rxr> re
10:53 < CIA-18> rene * r16039 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (exit.sh ocrNow.sh): Restart ocr and exit check (batch jobs)
10:57 < rxr> .oO
10:58 < rxr> that was not me ...
10:58 < rxr> should clean up the svn auth cache on the archivista master the next time I log in ...
11:02 < mnemoc> outch
11:29 < CIA-18> amery * r16040 /trunk/ (Documentation/PKG-BUILD-VARS scripts/functions.in): 
11:29 < CIA-18> * introduced cleanconfopt build variable to skip the automatic removal
11:29 < CIA-18>  of unsupported options for ./configure
12:05 < CIA-18> rene * r16041 /trunk/package/perl/perl/cross-lm.patch: * forced libm to be linked in, missing on some cross builds
12:05 < rxr> cu
12:30 < CIA-18> aldas * r16042 /trunk/package/gnome2/diacanvas/diacanvas.desc: * updated diacanvas (0.14.3 -> 0.14.4)
12:31 < CIA-18> aldas * r16043 /trunk/package/kde/digikamimageplugins/ (digikamimageplugins.conf digikamimageplugins.desc): * updated digikamimageplugins (0.8.0 -> 0.8.1)
12:32 < CIA-18> aldas * r16044 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (0.8.2 -> 1.0.1)
12:34 < CIA-18> aldas * r16045 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc: * updated ntfsprogs (1.12.1 -> 1.13.0)
12:34 < CIA-18> aldas * r16046 /trunk/package/develop/swig/swig.desc: * updated swig (1.3.27 -> 1.3.28)
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13:03 < jsaw> re
13:03 < jsaw> mnemoc: ping
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13:16 < CIA-18> jsaw * r16047 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-server.desc: 
13:16 < CIA-18> * security update xorg-server (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
13:16 < CIA-18>  http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/bugtraq/2006-03/msg00377.html
13:16 < CIA-18>  (untested)
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13:42 < CIA-18> aldas * r16048 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/ (fluxbox.conf fluxbox.desc): * updated fluxbox (0.9.14 -> 0.9.15)
14:10 < jsaw> cu later
15:14 < rxr_> re
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16:05 < rxr> setarch's upstream CVS is on one of the Red Hat devel servers. I want to
16:05 < rxr> move it to some public site soon.
16:05 < rxr> ...
16:05 < rxr> thanks folks ,-))
16:09 < CIA-18> rene * r16049 /trunk/package/base/setarch/ (. setarch.cache setarch.conf setarch.desc): * added setarch (1.8) - Change reported architecture and set personality flags
16:12 < CIA-18> aldas * r16050 /trunk/package/network/squid/ (squid.conf squid.desc squid.init): * updated squid (2.5.STABLE12 -> 2.5.STABLE13)
16:25 < mnemoc> jsaw: pong
16:25 < mnemoc> rehi :)
16:33 < CIA-18> rene * r16051 /trunk/package/base/setarch/setarch.conf: * fixed setarch manual location
16:36 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping
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16:57 < CIA-18> aldas * r16052 /trunk/package/cad/pcb/pcb.desc: * updated pcb (20050609 -> 20060321)
17:02 < mnemoc> FOX 1.6.0 (Stable)
17:03 < mnemoc> :)
17:09 < rxr> mnemoc: I found the issue on noisy, so no hurry with your trunk buidl
17:09 < rxr> ld
17:10 < mnemoc> == 18:13:52 =[0]=> Building base/linux-header [2.6.12.5 2.2.0-alpha].
17:10 < mnemoc> should i stop?
17:11 < rxr> nope
17:11 < rxr> it only affecty cross builds ..
17:14 < CIA-18> rene * r16053 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in: 
17:14 < CIA-18> * inserted missing $makeopt variables that have been missing since one
17:14 < CIA-18>  of the latest linux-conf cleanups. Fixes cross compilation.
17:16 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: did you try to compile dependant stuff with 1.6 ?
17:17 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: of course not
17:19 < morfoh> re hi
17:19 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 
17:22 < rxr> 3~http://www.xynth.org/
17:22 < rxr> ouhm
17:22 < rxr> google friendly without noise once again:
17:22 < rxr> http://www.xynth.org/
17:22 < rxr> Xynth is an embedded and portable interface between display hardware and the client software.
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17:28 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :)
17:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you run a ref build atm ?
17:29 < morfoh> a fresh one ?
17:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: fresh azael at trunk
17:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: you have a new name for it every day :)
17:33 < mnemoc> oh
17:33 < mnemoc> this was a typo :p
17:37 < morfoh> :)
17:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: I guess I should start a fresh ref build 
17:38 < morfoh> or did anyone else yet ???
17:40 < mnemoc> a full referece, just you
17:40 < mnemoc> rene is crosscompiling at noisy
17:40 < morfoh> ic 
17:41 < morfoh> then I'll start a new one this evening
17:43 < rxr> so - cu
17:43 < morfoh> cu rxr 
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17:56 < CIA-18> aldas * r16054 /trunk/package/multimedia/gxine/gxine.desc: * updated gxine (0.5.4 -> 0.5.5)
18:14 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: *lol*
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18:34 < CIA-18> aldas * r16055 /trunk/package/network/prozilla/prozilla.desc: * updated prozilla (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4)
18:36 < CIA-18> aldas * r16056 /trunk/package/network/lat/lat.desc: * updated lat (1.0.1 -> 1.0.3)
19:03 < morfoh> Baldzius: how many updates do you still have in the queue for today ? :)
19:04 < Baldzius> <=10 i guess
19:04 < morfoh> :)
19:04  * morfoh want to start a fresh ref build :)
19:05 < Baldzius> oh, i'll hurry then :)
19:05 < morfoh> Baldzius: no reason for a hurry :)
19:05 < morfoh> guess there are no "intrusive" things on your list :)
19:06 < morfoh> and my machine I'm building on will take some time for reching stage 5 
19:06 < Baldzius> :)
19:07 < mnemoc> what that smile means?
19:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: who asked you ?
19:07 < morfoh> :p
19:07  * mnemoc goes to his corner
19:07 < Baldzius> :))
19:07 < morfoh> nah :)
19:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: better you take care about your "sam" :)
19:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: and let the poor Baldzius smile :)
19:11 < Baldzius> hehehe
19:13 < mnemoc> F* OGO!
19:17  * morfoh is going to buy some food and labeling a postbox :)
19:17 < morfoh> bbl
19:19 < mnemoc> :)
19:19 < CIA-18> aldas * r16057 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.desc: * updated ndiswrapper (1.9 -> 1.10)
19:20 < CIA-18> aldas * r16058 /trunk/package/develop/pytables/pytables.desc: * updated pytables (1.2.1 -> 1.2.3)
19:30 < rxr> re
19:31 < mnemoc> wb rxr
19:40 < LMJ> moin moin
19:42 < mnemoc> moin LMJ 
19:42 < mnemoc> LMJ: did you solve your problem with usb devices?
19:45 < LMJ> no ;)
19:45 < mnemoc> what is it?
19:45 < LMJ> you have an idea ?
19:45 < LMJ> wait, brb phone
19:46 < LMJ> back
19:47 < LMJ> well, i can provide dmesg/ var/log/messages error, you want them ?
19:47 < mnemoc> ok
19:51 < LMJ> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hh8Iag37.html
19:52 < LMJ> what do you think doctor mnemoc ?
19:53 < mnemoc> and it's not at /dev/discs/ ?
19:53 < LMJ> my USB is formated, it worked when i had this old rocklinux stuff, it works on my syster Linux (FC ;) ), i think it's a kernel config issue 
19:54 < LMJ> no "part1" around but i'm SURE the key works and formated
19:54 < LMJ> neither in /dev/scsi/hostX/bus0/target0/lun0/
19:59 < mnemoc> look at /dev/discs
20:00 < LMJ> /dev/discs/disc{0|1|2}/{disc|generic}
20:02 < mnemoc> how many phisical discs do you have?
20:02 < LMJ> 2
20:02 < mnemoc> so it is there....
20:03 < LMJ> yes
20:03 < LMJ> but something not show the "part1"
20:04 < mnemoc> # fdisk -l /dev/discs/disc2/disc
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20:04 < mnemoc> and look at dmesg output
20:05 < Stelz> hloall
20:05 < Stelz> :>
20:06 < LMJ> no output mnemoc 
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20:06  * Stelz Date/Time is now [ Tue Mar 21 23:07:38 ]
20:06 < Stelz> :>
20:06 < LMJ> outch
20:06 < mnemoc> neither dmesg?
20:06 < LMJ> welcome Stelz 
20:06 < Stelz> hi, LMJ ;)
20:07 < LMJ> no mnemoc 
20:27 < mnemoc> looks like a broken module to me.... but... jsaw can know :)
20:29 < _Ragnar_> who 'fixed' (read broke) mysql download?
20:30 < mnemoc> i saw a change on DownloadTranslations file
20:33 < jsaw> re
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20:35 < jsaw> mnemoc: what's about using pcre or rx module for matching patterns in sam?
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20:36 < LMJ> haaaaa jsaw my friend ;)
20:38  * jsaw hides
20:38 < jsaw> LMJ: devfs on T2 2.1 ?
20:38 < LMJ> yes jsaw 
20:38 < jsaw> what USB device?
20:38 < mnemoc> jsaw: feel free to start the package manager on sam, i'm just thinking in the stone-replament part for now :)
20:39  * LMJ found jsaw behing the sofa
20:39 < LMJ> it's a 1GB USB key
20:39 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, I just ment, should we use the luapcre package (which provides some, not all yet..., replacements for the string.* functions)
20:39 < jsaw> mnemoc: with pcre instead of this crippled whatever regex of lua
20:40 < jsaw> LMJ: :)
20:40 < jsaw> LMJ: kernel version?
20:40 < mnemoc> jsaw: if you think it paies to add another dependency...
20:41 < mnemoc> jsaw: the last kernel version with devfs support
20:41 < jsaw> 2.6 ?
20:41 < LMJ> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hh8Iag37.html
20:41 < jsaw> is you USB device listed in /sys/block ?
20:42 < mnemoc> jsaw: 2.6.11.soemthing
20:42 < jsaw> LMJ: /sys/block/* ?
20:43 < LMJ> how to know...
20:43 < LMJ>  /sys/block/sda maybe
20:43 < jsaw> yep
20:43 < jsaw> that's it
20:44 < LMJ> i can see that
20:44 < jsaw> modprobe sd_mod
20:44 < jsaw> ?
20:45 < LMJ> FATAL: Module sd_mod not found.
20:45 < jsaw> ok. built in...
20:46 < jsaw> ls /sys/block/sda/   please
20:46 < LMJ> ls /sys/block/sda/  --> .  ..  dev  device  queue  range  removable  size  stat
20:47 < jsaw> hmmm, kernel does recognize it properly...
20:48 < jsaw> grep CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD= /boot/kconfig-* 
20:48 < jsaw> (I mean, sd_mod is properly built into the kernel, right?)
20:48 < LMJ> don't know, i used the default T2 kernel
20:49 < jsaw> do the grep
20:49 < LMJ> grep CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD= /boot/kconfig_2.6.11.12-dist  -> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
20:49 < jsaw> ok.
20:50 < jsaw> hmmm.
20:51 < LMJ> damned
20:51 < LMJ> wtf
20:51 < LMJ> why meeeeee
20:51 < mnemoc> == 03/21/06 21:54:32 =[1]=> Aborted building package pdksh.
20:52 < jsaw> LMJ: what's about CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG ?
20:53 < LMJ> CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y
20:56 < jsaw> LMJ: what manufacturer, model?
20:57 < LMJ> hummm
20:57 < LMJ> Generic
20:57 < jsaw> nono, not what's reported...
20:57 < jsaw> nothing written on the device?
20:57 < LMJ> Lexar
20:58 < LMJ> but it works on my system computer (Fedora Core 4) and it worked on my OLD rocklinux 5 months ago
20:58 < jsaw> I can only recommend rebuilding the kernel with all USB_STORAGE_* options enabled (except DEBUG)
20:59 < mnemoc> mine is lexar too
20:59 < LMJ> since i made my t2 with default T2 2.1 kernel on my 3 computers with 3 different target, it doesn't work anymore
20:59 < LMJ> sadddd
21:00 < jsaw> What is that device exactly, disk? flash? what?
21:00 < LMJ> Flash card
21:00 < jsaw> and what reader are you using?
21:01 < LMJ> a generic reader 9 in 1 ;)
21:01 < LMJ> USB 2.0
21:01 < jsaw> is it by chance a lexar jumpshot?
21:01 < LMJ> i don't think so
21:01 < LMJ> my USB scanner or printer do not work
21:02 < jsaw> either?
21:02 < LMJ> neither
21:02 < LMJ> it's a usb problem for sure
21:02 < jsaw> eh, yeah, "neither"?
21:02 < jsaw> seems so...
21:04 < LMJ> well
21:04 < jsaw> .oO( *?* )
21:04 < LMJ> gonna swith to t2 2.2 before the summer, i hope it will fix this problem and also fix the buggy D-Link GB NIC driver included in 2.6.11 ;)
21:07 < mnemoc> .oO
21:13 < CIA-18> ragnar * r16059 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * fix download translation for mysql mirror
21:13 < mnemoc> who was?
21:15 < mnemoc> OT: does 1-pdksh build for you at trunk?
21:19 < jsaw> it did, yes
21:20 < jsaw> mnemoc: what error?
21:21 < mnemoc> i686-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -c  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -g -O tree.c
21:21 < mnemoc> tree.c: In function 'wdcopy':
21:21 < mnemoc> tree.c:542: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'bcopy'
21:21 < mnemoc> tree.c:542: error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
21:21 < mnemoc> make: *** [tree.o] Error 1
21:21 < mnemoc> Due to previous errors, no 1-pdksh.log file!
21:21 < mnemoc> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
21:22 < jsaw> bcopy ???
21:22 < jsaw> line 542 here is:
21:22 < jsaw>         return memcpy(alloc(len, ap), wp, len);
21:25 < mnemoc> also here
21:27 < jsaw> ah
21:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: does pdksh include some X11 header?
21:29 < jsaw> forget this question
21:29 < jsaw> the problem is in sh.h
21:30 < mnemoc> Dr. J! :D
21:31 < jsaw> but the question is why??? see this in sh.h line 97:
21:31 < jsaw> #ifndef HAVE_MEMSET
21:31 < jsaw> # define memcpy(d, s, n)        bcopy(s, d, n)
21:31 < jsaw> ...
21:31 < jsaw> .oO
21:33 < jsaw> mnemoc: checking for memset...
21:33  * mnemoc doesn't understand the error message anyway :(
21:33 < jsaw> mnemoc: should be "yes"
21:33 < jsaw> prototypes of bcopy and memcpy:
21:33 < jsaw>        void *memcpy(void *dest, const void *src, size_t n);
21:33 < jsaw>        void bcopy(const void *src, void *dest, size_t n);
21:34 < jsaw> mnemoc: so, compiler bails out with "return bcopy(...)", becaus "bcopy" does not return anything
21:35 < jsaw> mnemoc: which libc are you using?
21:36 < mnemoc> glibc :(
21:36 < mnemoc> on host and target
21:37 < mnemoc> host is 2.3.5
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21:37 < jsaw> hmm...
21:37 < jsaw> :D
21:38 < jsaw> mnemoc: i assume that "memset" is not detected correctly, right?
21:38 < jsaw> mnemoc: but I have no idea, why...
21:39 < jsaw> mnemoc: 'bout sam, how will it be implemented? What are your thoughts currently?
21:40 < mnemoc> my thoughts are only about sam config currently
21:40 < madtux> Welcome duck_chris  :)
21:40 < owl> hi madtux ! :)
21:40 < jsaw> O.O
21:40 < madtux> owlita!
21:40 < madtux> :)
21:40 < madtux> jsaw, duck_chris != madtux 
21:41 < jsaw> I know.
21:41 < owl> hi duck_chris 
21:41 < madtux> ;-)
21:41 < owl> whois ...?
21:41 < jsaw> madtux: I was just wondering that you are here ;)
21:41 < duck_chris> hi
21:41 < jsaw> hi madtux, owlita, duck_chris  :)
21:42 < madtux> jsaw, yeah i'm actually here... not just iddleing around
21:42 < madtux> jsaw, u can think of duck_chris as my padawan
21:42 < madtux> he is still on the bsd world... but i'm going to get him to play on t2 
21:43 < owl> ah, converting an duck... ^^
21:43 < owl> .oO( to an tux )
21:43 < madtux> lol
21:43 < madtux> owl, or to a goth owl?
21:43 < jsaw> madtux: get him to add the BSD kernel on T2 ;)
21:43 < owl> madtux: converting an duck into an goth owl? - aeh, no ;)
21:44 < madtux> hehe.... he just started with bsd some weeks ago.. i rescued him from fedora.
21:44 < owl> fedora. waaaaaaaah. heeeelp, i need somebody, help, not just anybody... or something :)
21:45 < madtux> :)
21:47 < jsaw> mnemoc: so, what ideas about sam-"config"?
21:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: remind me ;)
21:48 < mnemoc> ehm
21:48 < mnemoc> a core module on byte code providing the brain and the helpers
21:49 < mnemoc> a lot of simple lua scripts on etc/sam/config  on text
21:49 < jsaw> cli only?
21:49 < mnemoc> in fact i want to make it gdb-alike
21:50 < mnemoc> to make dumb frontends
21:51 < jsaw> so, internal CLI
21:51 < mnemoc> because i want to use the same 'idea' for script/Config, so i can use a remote and fancy interface using command line via ssh as backend
21:52 < mnemoc> yes
21:52 < jsaw> hmmm.
21:52 < jsaw> why did you do sam.lua the way you did then?
21:53 < mnemoc> i'm just learning lua :(
21:53 < jsaw> shouldn't all modules be available immediately then?
21:53 < jsaw> like, starting sam, then type "help"
21:53 < jsaw> and all module help texts show up?
21:53 < mnemoc> i did it that way initially
21:54 < jsaw> why not anymore?
21:54 < mnemoc> because i'm dumb :p
21:54 < jsaw> o.O
21:55  * jsaw bangs mnemocs head against the wall
21:55 < mnemoc> welll.... because i'm not sure if sam will be the frontend CLI wrapper, or the gdb-alike thing
21:56 < mnemoc> or maybe both at the same time
21:56 < jsaw> I don't get the "gdb-alike", honestly, what's exactly the difference to a "frontend CLI" ?
21:59 < mnemoc> # sam build nginx
21:59 < mnemoc> vs.
21:59 < mnemoc> sam
21:59 < mnemoc> > build nginx
21:59 < mnemoc> exit
22:00  * morfoh is making pan cakes ... unfortunately "sam" can't do that kind of things yet :)
22:00 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
22:00 < morfoh> jsaw: how is your girlie ?
22:03 < jsaw> morfoh: well, mostly fine, she does not complain too much, however she cannot use here (preferred) right arm
22:06 < mnemoc> does she try to use it?
22:06 < jsaw> yep, once in a while, but moving it too much seems to hurt a lot
22:06 < mnemoc> :(
22:07 < mnemoc> morfoh:  itools 0.13.0 
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22:40 < mnemoc> jsaw: tell me your ideas please
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22:42 < owl> oh... the duck is gone
22:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: the gdb-alike + CLI sounds ultra reasonable... so, no further ideas, but coding...
22:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: I'll show you a few code-snippets in a few minutes
22:44 < mnemoc> :D
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23:06 < mnemoc> # grep -rn HAVE_MEMSET /usr/include/
23:06 < mnemoc> /usr/include/linux/vt_buffer.h:31:#ifndef VT_BUF_HAVE_MEMSETW
23:06 < mnemoc> .oO
23:07 < jsaw> mnemoc: HAVE_MEMSET comes from ./configure
23:07 < mnemoc> oh, it comes from autoconf
23:07 < mnemoc> yes :)
23:07 < jsaw> yep
23:07 < mnemoc> sorry
23:07 < jsaw> :)
23:09 < mnemoc> checking for memset... no
23:10 < mnemoc> doh
23:11 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7MxZ5q57.html
23:13 < jsaw> *gah*
23:13 < jsaw> SSP ...
23:14 < jsaw> do we need a new glibc to take full advantage of SSP ?
23:14 < jsaw> rxr: HELP
23:14 < jsaw> oh, it's dietlibc...
23:15 < jsaw> patchday for dietlibc?
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23:15 < keinek> hi
23:15 < jsaw> mnemoc: how would you get the usage text from a module, by parsing the file, or by loading the module?
23:15 < mnemoc> hardened lfs has a patch to add the important parts to glibc
23:15 < madtux> yar
23:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: loading the module i guess
23:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: and the reading module.USAGE
23:16 < jsaw> k.
23:17 < keinek> guys... i need a t2 for AMD 64 bit.
23:17 < keinek> anybody can upload a ISO for me?
23:17 < keinek> today i try ubuntu 64 bit, but this sucks
23:17 < keinek> i back to t2 in less 5 min
23:18 < jsaw> I have a r15580 ISO. But there were some rough edges I do not really remember...
23:19 < jsaw> (well 5 isos in fact)
23:19 < keinek> jsaw, i cant compile 64 bit, 
23:19 < keinek> need a t2 64 bit for compile a t2 64?
23:19 < keinek> I try crosscompile, but fail in the same place.
23:19 < keinek> http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/t2-project/1-dietlibc.err
23:19 < keinek> same stage, same package.
23:21 < jsaw> o.O
23:22 < jsaw> keinek: I can start a minimal build
23:24 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hlfs/view/unstable/glibc/chapter04/patches.html
23:24 < keinek> jsaw, thanks i will wait for you iso.
23:24 < keinek> ;)
23:25 < jsaw> athlon64?
23:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: hmm. But it's for gcc-3.4.5
23:27 < mnemoc> jsaw: glibc
23:27 < keinek> so...
23:27 < mnemoc> they add the core functions to the libc
23:27 < mnemoc> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/hlfs/svn/glibc-2.3.6-ssp-2.patch
23:27 < mnemoc> and it's not intrusive
23:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes, but I think the function names are different with gcc-4.1
23:28 < mnemoc> uhm
23:28 < keinek> i only wait for the iso?
23:28 < jsaw> keinek: which processor optimization? athlon64 is ok?
23:28 < keinek> sure
23:28 < keinek> :)
23:28 < jsaw> keinek: yes, wait and see... :)
23:29 < keinek> http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/t2-project/cpuinfo.txt  <--- this is my cpu
23:29 < keinek> now i was using a Athlon optimization T2, but XFCE4 freeze... just a example.
23:30 < jsaw> hmmm. 
23:30 < jsaw> what chipset?
23:31 < keinek> the motherboard?
23:31 < jsaw> yep
23:32 < keinek> Is a MSI with Nvidia FORCE...
23:33 < jsaw> I asked because I observe X-Server hangs here (SiS sth.)...
23:33 < keinek> athlon 64 bit is a good micro?
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23:39 < keinek> sorry i lost my connecion
23:39 < keinek> connection*
23:39 < keinek> i was said
23:39 < keinek> athlon 64 bit is a good micro?
23:39 < jsaw> what do you mean with  "good micro" ?
23:43 < keinek> i change my computer last week
23:43 < keinek> t2 work fine in 64 bits?
23:43 < keinek> how better than athlon xp?
23:44 < jsaw> you should ask rxr
23:44 < jsaw> I have no comparison... but I'm happy about the processor (but not so happy about my motherboard)
23:44 < keinek> Mmm i just can connect to internet at this time... when he is sleeping...
23:45 < keinek> the error that i have in 1-dietlibc.err, could fix?
23:45 < keinek> Could i fix?
23:46 < mnemoc> keinek: rename it to .err.txt please :)
23:46 < keinek> Mmmm ok.
23:46 < keinek> i will
23:54 < mnemoc> ldconfig
23:54 < mnemoc> make: ldconfig: Command not found
23:54 < mnemoc> :D
23:54 < keinek> mnemoc, http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/newt2/1-dietlibc.txt
23:54 < mnemoc> 1-procps
23:54 < keinek> :P
23:55 < mnemoc> bin-x86_64/diet: bin-x86_64/diet: cannot execute binary file   not good
23:56 < keinek> yes... this is the error.
23:56 < keinek> :'(
23:56 < keinek> i told to everbody that T2 is the SUPER SUPER OS, and now... i cant compile a 64 bit os with t2
23:56 < mnemoc> keinek: please paste the output of 'file' against bin-x86_64/diet
23:56 < keinek> who cant help me!!!
23:56 < keinek> GOD!!
23:56 < keinek> Save me!
23:56 < keinek> :P
23:57 < mnemoc> god is sleeping
23:57 < keinek> yes... i know...
23:57 < keinek> jajaja
23:57 < keinek> hahaha*
23:58 < keinek> mnemoc, what file?
23:59 < mnemoc> file is a command
23:59 < keinek> yes... i have this command.
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