T2 IRC Log: 2006-03-12
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--- Log opened Sun Mar 12 00:00:05 2006
00:00 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep now... cu :)
00:01 < morfoh> cu mnemoc ... sleep well
00:01 < morfoh> :)
00:01 < mnemoc> did you go to the asilo?
00:02 < morfoh> nope... couldn't get my contact on phone
00:02 < mnemoc> so monday will be
00:03 < morfoh> yes ... in the afternoon
00:03 < mnemoc> meeting_
00:03 < mnemoc> ?
00:07 < morfoh> yes
00:21 < mnemoc> ok, i'll go to sleep now
00:21 < mnemoc> see you soon
00:21 < morfoh> sleep well mnemoc :)
00:21 < mnemoc> you too
00:21 < morfoh> yeah ... thx
00:21 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin also
00:51 < sepp> night all
00:51 < morfoh> gn8 sepp
00:51 < sepp> thanks :)
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04:26 < keinek_> hi
04:26 < keinek_> can help me?
04:26 < keinek_> where is kpilot?
04:26 < keinek_> i can found it.
04:27 < morfoh> keinek_: package/kde/kdepim
04:29 < keinek_> thanks
04:29 < keinek_> in kdepim?
04:29 < keinek_> [T] This package contains KDE's PIM applications like: kmail, kandy,
04:29 < keinek_> [T] korganizer, kpilot, knotes, ksync and others.
04:29 < keinek_> yiiipy!
04:29 < keinek_> :D
04:29 < keinek_> :)
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04:32 < jadawin> hello everyone
04:32 < jadawin> i come here with a weird problem
04:32 < jadawin> i just installed T2 2.2 alpha in my laptop and it seems to run ok
04:33 < jadawin> but now i noticed that upon login time, the password check only checks for the first 8 chars
04:34 < jadawin> my passwords are all bigger than that and i noticed that i can login with passwords with the first 8 chars only or followed by anything
04:34 < jadawin> this is true for users i created as well as for root
04:34 < jadawin> in my T2 2.1rc3 that i have installed in another computer this doesn't happen
04:35 < jadawin> is this some nasty bug or some expected behaviour?
04:35 < jadawin> :/
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06:53 < rxr> re
07:59 < CIA-18> rene * r15774 /trunk/package/security/dropbear/dropbear.desc: * updated dropbear (0.47 -> 0.48.1)
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08:30 < misl> moring folks :)
08:57 < valentin> moin
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09:19 < mnemoc> moin!
09:20 < mnemoc> rxr: i got into my build server and it's not as lagged as i expected
09:29 < misl> hi valentin, mnemoc
09:29 < misl> mnemoc: How is Berlin?
09:33 < valentin> hi misl mnemoc rxr
09:33 < mnemoc> misl: i haven't seen much, but feels good :)
09:33 < mnemoc> hi valentin
09:33 < misl> :)
09:34 < misl> mnemoc: How about the wheather compared to home?
09:34 < misl> You must be freezing?
09:34 < mnemoc> not that much :)
09:35 < valentin> was there much snow in hannover ?
09:35 < mnemoc> of course it's very different, but i have not been too much time on the streets
09:35 < mnemoc> today we have sun :)
09:35 < mnemoc> but yesterday was very cold
09:36 < misl> is mnemoc on Cebit?
09:36 < valentin> misl: they were
09:36 < valentin> as you would have known if the mailinglist had worked...
09:36 < misl> ahh, so no T2 stand on Cebit this year
09:37 < mnemoc> uhm?
09:37 < valentin> misl: a 3 day booth only
09:37 < mnemoc> we were 3 days there, which is much better than 0 days
09:37 < misl> Unfortunately I did no go there this year :(
09:37 < mnemoc> :(
09:38 < misl> made any interesting contact ?
09:38 < mnemoc> some good oportunities.... we will see
09:41 < valentin> mnemoc: so you are still at rxr's parents or in berlin again ?
09:41 < valentin> i want to phone rxr
09:54 * misl out for some family quality time :) bbl
09:54 < mnemoc> valentin: yes, he is downstairs
09:54 < mnemoc> misl: :)
10:04 < sepp> hello :)
10:05 < mnemoc> hi sepp
10:05 < sepp> hi mnemoc
10:06 < mnemoc> rxr: is CIA been notified?
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11:07 < owl> moin
11:10 < valentin> moin owl, sepp
11:38 < owl> hi valentin
11:50 < LMJ> moin moin
11:55 < owl> hi LMJ
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12:13 * misl is back :)
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12:27 < jadawin> huuhuu
12:27 < jadawin> i mean hello
12:27 < jadawin> :)
12:27 < misl> hi jadawin
12:28 < jadawin> hi misl
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12:32 < nzg> moin
12:33 < jadawin> hi nzg
12:33 < misl> hi nzg
12:41 < jadawin> guys, yesterday i installed T2 2.2-alpha on my laptop and now i noticed i have problems when logging in, it seems only the first 8 chars of my password are verified, any idea on why this is happens?
12:42 < rxr> most probably due to changes in pam
12:43 < rxr> guess some default value changed and it and/or shadow use crypt instead of the newer style md5
12:43 < rxr> e.g. this 8char pass is also the default on suse and others
12:43 < rxr> I can take a look later
12:43 < jadawin> ok, so it's not some security breach or something here right?
12:44 < rxr> yep
12:44 < rxr> just a config
12:44 < rxr> with 8chars it is crypt and not md5
12:44 < rxr> there shoudl be an option to control this
12:44 < jadawin> ok, phew i was getting a bit scared about it
12:44 < rxr> pam changed alot in the last time
12:45 < jadawin> well, as long as it's a somewhat expected behavior i'm a bit more comfortable with it
12:47 < misl> rxr: is there something wrong with t2 svn server?
12:47 < rxr> yes
12:47 < rxr> momemnt
12:47 < misl> Ack, I thought so
12:47 < misl> BTW hi rxr
12:48 < rxr> hi misl
12:48 < LMJ> moin rxr
12:49 < rxr> moin LMJ
12:49 < LMJ> how are you ?
12:54 < rxr> done a lot of t2 pr at the cebit ...
12:54 < rxr> ,-)
12:54 < rxr> fine but busy ...
12:55 < rxr> and got some potentially interesting contract possibilities so far
12:55 < misl> rxr: Obtained any good prospect at Cebit?
12:55 < misl> nice!
12:55 < rxr> yes
12:55 < rxr> a swiss company does a nice linxu smartphone ...
12:56 < rxr> quad band, wifi, bluetooth, gps and all for just 299EUR they say
12:56 < misl> got any url?
12:56 < mnemoc> rxr felt in love with that smartphone
12:56 < rxr> misl: I can crawl it up later
12:56 < rxr> but it is not running t2, since they did not know us
12:57 < rxr> but we exchanged some contact data and see for the future ,-))
12:57 < misl> Do they consider switching>
12:57 < misl> > = ?
12:57 < rxr> not in the short term
12:57 < rxr> since it is ready for marked right now
12:57 < rxr> but one never knows for next versions and so on
12:57 < rxr> or just parts like driver or app stuff and so on ...
12:57 < misl> Very interesting :)
12:58 < CIA-18> amery * r15777 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config: * changed ccache to only cleanup the cache if atime support is available on the fs
12:59 * mnemoc hug CIA
13:00 < CIA-18> msluis * r15778 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/parse-config: * added proper parse-config support for ibm-jdk-150.
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13:06 < lowercase> hello!
13:10 < LMJ> hello mnemoc and misl
13:10 < LMJ> and lowercase
13:10 < misl> hi LMJ
13:13 < lowercase> i'm trying to 'svn co' your t2 development tree and well, i have some problems :/
13:13 < lowercase> svn co svn://svn2.exactcode.de/t2/trunk just times out
13:14 < lowercase> oh, the master site works now
13:14 < lowercase> nvm then ^^;
13:16 < rxr> sorry, svn2 is not up right now
13:17 < CIA-18> rene * r15779 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config:
13:17 < CIA-18> Alejandro Mery and Rene Rebe:
13:17 < CIA-18> * fixed new ccache atime detection code to really work
13:20 < jadawin> k guys, i'll bbl, thx for the explanation on that login/pam thing
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13:23 < CIA-18> rene * r15780 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/ (. exact-image.cache exact-image.desc): * added exact-image (0.0.1) - A fast imaging library including command line frontend
13:26 < CIA-18> msluis * r15781 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-160/ (6 files): * added sun-jre-160 (6-beta) - SUN Java Runtime Environment
13:26 < morfoh> re
13:26 < CIA-18> msluis * r15782 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-160/ (6 files): * added sun-jdk-160 (6-beta) - SUN Java Development Kit
13:26 < misl> :)
13:26 < misl> hi morfoh
13:26 < morfoh> hi misl :)
13:28 < CIA-18> msluis * r15783 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-dirtree.conf: * added profile.d support for newly added Sun Java 6 JRE and JDK.
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13:52 < rxr> hi morfoh
13:52 < morfoh> hi rxr
13:53 < morfoh> rxr: was it right that lua-config wasn't returning --cflags an --libs ?
13:55 < rxr> no idea
13:55 * rxr never used lua
13:56 < rxr> jsaw: and valentin: are better to ask
13:57 < morfoh> rxr: I've done some local changes here to create also a proper lua.pc for pkg-config
13:58 < morfoh> I think that will solve some issue for 3rd. party applications that can use lua i some way, i.e. like lighttpd does for it mod_cml
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14:17 < CIA-18> chris * r15784 /trunk/package/develop/lua/ (build.patch lua.conf lua.pc string-split.patch):
14:17 < CIA-18> * added template for lua.pc pkgconfig file
14:17 < CIA-18> * splitted up postmake function
14:17 < CIA-18> * added function and hook for creating lua.pc pkgconfig file if we have pkgconfig installed
14:17 < CIA-18> * added missing copyright to the patches
14:21 < CIA-18> chris * r15785 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf: * enabled check for lua and if we can build lighttpd's mod_cml plugin
14:24 < valentin> 14:56 < morfoh> rxr: was it right that lua-config wasn't returning --cflags an --libs ?
14:24 < valentin> morfoh: i never saw it returning that
14:25 < morfoh> rxr: valentin it couldn't because the package replaced @CFLAGS@ with $myCFLAGS which was empty
14:25 < morfoh> in the conf
14:25 < valentin> morfoh: did we break that ?
14:26 < morfoh> dunno who wa breaking that ?
14:26 < morfoh> at least now it seems to work correctly
14:26 < valentin> hm, okay then - cu later
14:26 < morfoh> valentin: cu ... but if you can check you lua stuff with the change later it would be nice :)
14:27 < morfoh> valentin: I just know, that I updated the package some days before, but I didn't changed anything in the conf afaik
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14:44 < morfoh> package/x86/icc/patches/pkg_fileutil
14:45 < morfoh> s_sysmacros.patch
14:45 < morfoh> why the heck it's including a icc patch when using gcc ?
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15:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: can you check your changes you made with r15756
15:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: why didn't you replaced the loop for adding the icc patchfiles ?
15:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: instead of adding the patches without checking if ICC was selected as default CC
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15:20 < keinek> hi
15:39 < mnemoc> hi
15:43 < morfoh> hi keinek
15:43 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
15:43 < keinek> hi morfoh
15:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: if you've some time you can check r15756
15:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: see my last message
15:47 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
15:47 < mnemoc> let see...
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15:48 < keinek_> i was lost my connection :(
15:48 < keinek_> i was say
15:48 < keinek_> hi morfoh
15:48 < keinek_> mnemoc, told me that Cleanup solve my problems.
15:48 < keinek_> :)
15:48 < keinek_> i am very happy with my old t2-trunk.
15:48 < keinek_> morfoh, you try cvs cedega?
15:48 < keinek_> i will send again the scripts to the list for testing.
15:49 < morfoh> keinek_: nope ... no time for that atm
15:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: where could I "register" new users/groups ?
15:49 < mnemoc> morfoh: uhm, icc's parse-config is not limited to "icc enabled"
15:49 < mnemoc> morfoh: misc/share/REGISTER
15:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: thx
15:50 < mnemoc> yw
15:50 < keinek_> mnemoc, i cant compile fpc
15:50 < keinek_> and... i need free pascal
15:50 < keinek_> :(
15:50 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... but why isn't it limited to ICC ?
15:50 < keinek_> :'(
15:51 < keinek_> i want to write a note for the magazine about free pascal, the old language for teachers
15:52 < keinek_> morfoh, the scripts is now in the list.
15:52 < keinek_> is a good script for compile learning all versions of wine
15:52 < keinek_> :)
15:54 < CIA-18> amery * r15787 /trunk/package/x86/icc/parse-config: * fixed icc's patching applying
15:55 < mnemoc> keinek_: "i can't compile" is doesn't help us to help you
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16:00 < mnemoc> http://www.keplerproject.org/
16:00 < morfoh_> mnemoc: and ?
16:00 < mnemoc> [17:02:21] amery r15787 /trunk/package/x86/icc/parse-config: fixed icc's patching applying
16:01 < morfoh_> mnemoc: it's a lua related project, mostly for web stuff
16:02 < mnemoc> yep, i was looking to a language to make a dynamic, propably even AJAX, framework like webmin for embedded or other targets
16:03 < morfoh_> mnemoc: sounds interesting ... I think lua could be quite neat for that
16:03 < mnemoc> yep
16:04 < morfoh_> mnemoc: even for sth. like a "CLI"
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16:05 < mnemoc> this ksirc crap is worse than xchat
16:05 < morfoh_> :)
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16:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think using lua one could write a "CLI" based configuration "shell" and a webinterface quite well
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16:13 < CIA-18> amery * r15788 /trunk/package/mail/bogofilter/bogofilter.desc: * updated bogofilter (0.95.2 -> 1.0.2)
16:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: what do you think about adding sth. like "ipsvc {tcp,udp}" to TAIL ?
16:29 < mnemoc> one day TAIL will generate scripts for ipsvd and xinetd
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16:30 < mnemoc> but i have lot of thing to do to be able to really generate configure (one time), services (background or supervised) and internet services (on demand) scripts from TAIL files
16:31 < mnemoc> i also want to create users and groups from there, instead of postsysfiles
16:31 < mnemoc> .conf
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16:31 < keinek> mnemoc, i ask if anybody have problems with that packet
16:31 < keinek> :)
16:33 < mnemoc> keinek: good
16:34 < misl> morfoh: the error you reported before (about icc fileutils patch), do you already know what caused it?
16:35 < mnemoc> wasnt it fixed by 15788?
16:35 < CIA-18> chris * r15789 /trunk/package/network/net-snmp/net-snmp.conf:
16:35 < CIA-18> * removed the default injection of "--with-libwrap" confopt because it breaks on targets without tcp_wrappers like mnemosyne that uses ipsvd
16:35 < CIA-18> * added a check for tcp_wrappers and if we can inject "--with-libwrap" confopt
16:36 < morfoh> misl: svn up ... 15787 solved it ... I did the same change on a build here before
16:36 < misl> ack
16:39 < CIA-18> chris * r15790 /trunk/misc/share/REGISTER: * registered memcached user and group (UID/GID 45)
16:40 < CIA-18> chris * r15791 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/memcached-memcached.tail: * added TAIL for memcached
16:52 < CIA-18> chris * r15792 /trunk/package/network/memcached/postsysfiles.in: * added postsysfiles.in for creating memcached user and group
16:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: have you ever build php as fastcgi
17:03 < keinek> mnemoc, morfoh : Look my old atari :P http://red-handed.gsol.ws/fotos/atari/index.html
17:03 < keinek> Now all users of t2 can play with the emulator stella ;)
17:06 < morfoh> keinek: :)
17:16 < mnemoc> morfoh: mnemosyne does it by default if you have lighttpd as web server
17:17 < morfoh> hmmm... strange
17:19 < mnemoc> set lighttpd and PHP using mnemosyne configurator
17:19 < morfoh> what magic did you added there ? :)
17:19 < mnemoc> no magic
17:20 < mnemoc> i think it's even on php.conf
17:20 < mnemoc> and not on mnemosyne
17:21 < morfoh> but then it doesn't seem to work
17:21 < mnemoc> if pkginstalled apache; then
17:21 < mnemoc> pkgprefix -t apache
17:21 < mnemoc> var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-apxs2=$( pkgprefix sbindir apache )/apxs"
17:21 < mnemoc> else
17:21 < mnemoc> var_append extraconfopt " " "--enable-fastcgi"
17:21 < mnemoc> var_append extraconfopt " " "--enable-force-cgi-redirect"
17:21 < mnemoc> fi
17:23 < morfoh> hmmm ... yeah. I saw that before. but no php-cgi get's created
17:24 < morfoh> ah! ic ... sorry
17:24 < morfoh> /usr/bin/php -v
17:24 < morfoh> PHP 5.1.2 (cgi-fcgi) (built: Mar 12 2006 18:21:16)
17:25 < morfoh> I thought it was named php-cgi or so
17:25 * mnemoc slaps morfoh
17:26 < morfoh> hey!
17:26 * morfoh *kicks* mnemoc
17:27 < mnemoc> pff
17:27 * mnemoc kicks back
17:27 * morfoh *kicks* mnemoc again
17:27 < sepp> fight club?
17:28 < morfoh> sepp: it seems so :)
17:29 * mnemoc push sepp from the back
17:29 < sepp> o_O
17:29 * morfoh smashes mnemoc head
17:29 * morfoh runs away
17:30 < mnemoc> outch
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17:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: phppgadmin seems to work with lighttpd :)
17:56 < misl> yuck :(
17:56 < misl> miniperl still fails :(
17:57 < misl> libperl.a(pp.o)(.text+0x24f2): In function `Perl_pp_pow':
17:57 < misl> pp.c: undefined reference to `pow'
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19:08 < CIA-18> chris * r15793 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/unionfs.desc: * updated unionfs (1.1.2 -> 1.1.3)
19:11 < sepp> login.defs needs "MD5_CRYPT_ENAB yes" to use md5, which also disables PASS_MAX_LEN - but i don't know if that breaks pam
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20:26 < jsaw> re
20:28 < morfoh> wb dr.j. ;)
20:28 < jsaw> ...
20:28 < jsaw> hi morfoh :)
20:30 < jsaw> pc_install_path in usr/share ???
20:31 < morfoh> $libdir=$datadir of pkgconfig are the same
20:32 < jsaw> nope
20:32 < morfoh> nope ?
20:32 < jsaw> pkgconfig dir resides in */lib*, not in */share/
20:33 < morfoh> ok ... if you want to have it there no problem ... I had libdir before, and it was populating the lua.pc to the same dir
20:34 < jsaw> here, it went to /usr/share/pkgconfig... that's wrong, or?
20:34 < morfoh> ack
20:34 < morfoh> strange
20:34 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15794 /trunk/package/develop/lua/lua.conf:
20:34 < CIA-18> * pkgconfig belongs to $libdir
20:34 < CIA-18> * add -DLUA_USE_POSIX to CFLAGS
20:35 < jsaw> morfoh: pkgconfig uses default set_confopt, so -> datadir is /usr/share
20:35 < morfoh> jsaw: then sth. is wrong here
20:35 < jsaw> morfoh: maybe that's not exactly the way it should be?
20:35 < jsaw> morfoh: do you have a symlink?
20:36 < morfoh> nope
20:36 < jsaw> hmmm
20:36 < jsaw> iso-codes.pc is also in /usr/share, here
20:39 < morfoh> jsaw: do you agree with the rest of the lua.conf changes ?
20:39 < jsaw> what exactly, I only looked at the pc_postmake
20:39 < jsaw> (and that's perfectly fine)
20:40 < morfoh> good
20:41 < jsaw> oh, my{cflags,libs}, good catch
20:42 < morfoh> jsaw: I think lua-config wasn't returning them
20:42 < morfoh> I mean. before my changes
20:43 < jsaw> ohoh
20:43 < jsaw> thanks
20:43 < morfoh> np. it was fixed while doing some other stuff. :)
20:43 < jsaw> :)
20:44 < morfoh> and having a proper lua-config and lua.pc cannot hurt, regarding of possible 3rd. party apps
20:45 < jsaw> yep, however... the lua 3rd party apps build process is a mess
20:45 < jsaw> debian has lua-config...
20:45 < morfoh> I can imagine
20:45 < jsaw> but not the standard lua
20:46 < jsaw> so...
20:46 < jsaw> there are many packages with the developers local build settings...
20:46 < morfoh> ohoh
20:46 < jsaw> like "gcc ... -L/user/j/jsaw/build/lua/lib ... " or so
20:47 < jsaw> s/or so/and such/
20:47 < jsaw> that's something the really bugs me about lua
20:48 < morfoh> ack. hopefully in my case, lighttpd has support for lua-config and pkgconfig
20:49 < morfoh> so after fixing it building the mod_cml which needs lua was no problem anymore
20:50 < jsaw> oh, nice :)
20:50 < morfoh> yes :)
20:51 < jsaw> only, I didn't check if debian's lua-config has "--pkg{lib,data}dir", do you have a box to check this?
20:51 < morfoh> nope
20:51 < morfoh> sorry
20:51 < morfoh> jsaw: bootstrap one in a vserver :p
20:51 < jsaw> np... once there's a package that requires options our lua-config doesn't have we'll notice ;)
20:52 < jsaw> morfoh: :p
20:52 < morfoh> :)
20:53 < morfoh> jsaw: btw, this lighttpd is quite nice, and support within T2 is becoming better :)
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20:55 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15795 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/ (iso-codes.desc pkgconfig-path.patch):
20:55 < CIA-18> * updated iso-codes (0.49 -> 0.50)
20:55 < CIA-18> * add patch to install pkgconfig in /usr/lib*, not /usr/share
20:55 < jsaw> morfoh: hmm, the [T] is already an interesting read
20:56 < morfoh> jsaw: yes, give it a try if you need a webserver
20:57 < morfoh> with php, fastcgi, etc
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20:59 < jsaw> morfoh: hmmm. what's about SSL and SVN?
20:59 < morfoh> ssl is supported by a module
21:00 < morfoh> no svn so far, but you could proxy svn stuff to an apache
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21:03 < jsaw> ...then I have both...
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21:06 < jsaw> 157 Deg C... my HD boils
21:17 < keinek_> hey guys, what is the best encrypt system: blowfish, des, twofish ?
21:18 < keinek_> i was playing with losetup and filesystems :)
21:18 < _Ragnar_> not de
21:18 < _Ragnar_> des*
21:18 < keinek_> blowfish work fine, is the best?
21:19 < _Ragnar_> blowfish should work yea
21:19 < _Ragnar_> at least I know of no weakness
21:19 < keinek_> yes, in t2 work fine for me.
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21:19 < keinek_> but... is secure?
21:20 < sepp_> if you want to be unable to use the encrypted backup in a half, year use the in kernel crypto :D
21:21 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
21:21 * _Ragnar_ should revive transcrypt ;)
21:22 < keinek_> blowfish-256, 256 bits of crypto :P
21:22 < keinek_> more bits, more slowly.
21:22 < keinek_> :D
21:25 < jsaw> is klear installing fine now?
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21:32 < jsaw> maybe, with the soon to come 2.2, we should walk through trac... ?
21:33 < morfoh> yes ... if you mean s/walk/work/
21:34 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15796 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/apache-run.txt: * "exec 2>&1" not "echo * "exec...
21:34 < mnemoc> oh
21:36 < jsaw> mnemoc: where's the "/etc/runit/" created?
21:37 < mnemoc> runit/parse-config i think
21:37 < mnemoc> or maybe $sysconfopt.... which is automatic
21:37 < mnemoc> err
21:37 < mnemoc> $sysconfdir
21:38 < jsaw> what source?
21:38 < jsaw> or, where is it?
21:39 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/runit/djb-config
21:40 < keinek_> hey guy : AES-256 or Twofish-256?
21:41 < jsaw> mnemoc: htf does X11R6 appear in the PATH variable...?
21:41 < mnemoc> what? where?.. too many question for this old and tired man
21:42 < jsaw> grep X11R6 /user/vservers/http/etc/runit/2
21:42 < jsaw> PATH=/command:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
21:42 < mnemoc> fix the patch :)
21:43 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15797 /trunk/package/base/prelink/prelink.conf.data: * s/X11R6/X11/g
21:43 < jsaw> mnemoc: ? what patch ???
21:43 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/runit/rockify.patch
21:44 < jsaw> ah
21:45 < mnemoc> any other question before going to sleep?
21:46 < jsaw> no
21:47 < jsaw> sleep well, mnemoc
21:47 < mnemoc> :) thanks
21:47 < mnemoc> gn8 #t2... tomorrow to CeBIT again
21:48 < jsaw> mv self /dev/lab
21:48 < jsaw> cu later
21:48 < mnemoc> cu jsaw :)
21:49 < mnemoc> jsaw: btw, i want to make a web-based (probably AJAX) interface for administrating T2-powered machines using LUA, if you have any design for stone/Config abstraction in mind
21:50 < mnemoc> jsaw: and also a gdb-like interface so we can make a remote interface for Config, building and monitoring
21:50 < mnemoc> ok, good night
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21:55 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15798 /trunk/package/audio/streamripper/streamripper.desc: * updated streamripper (1.61.17 -> 1.61.18)
22:10 < jsaw> re
22:12 < sepp_> wb jsaw :)
22:14 < sepp_> keinek_: AES-256 is as fast/slow as Twofish-256
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22:15 < jsaw> hi sepp
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23:19 < owl> gn8
23:25 < jsaw> gn8 owl
23:31 < jsaw> off to bed, too, cu
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00:00 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep now... cu :)
00:01 < morfoh> cu mnemoc ... sleep well
00:01 < morfoh> :)
00:01 < mnemoc> did you go to the asilo?
00:02 < morfoh> nope... couldn't get my contact on phone
00:02 < mnemoc> so monday will be
00:03 < morfoh> yes ... in the afternoon
00:03 < mnemoc> meeting_
00:03 < mnemoc> ?
00:07 < morfoh> yes
00:21 < mnemoc> ok, i'll go to sleep now
00:21 < mnemoc> see you soon
00:21 < morfoh> sleep well mnemoc :)
00:21 < mnemoc> you too
00:21 < morfoh> yeah ... thx
00:21 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin also
00:51 < sepp> night all
00:51 < morfoh> gn8 sepp
00:51 < sepp> thanks :)
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04:26 < keinek_> hi
04:26 < keinek_> can help me?
04:26 < keinek_> where is kpilot?
04:26 < keinek_> i can found it.
04:27 < morfoh> keinek_: package/kde/kdepim
04:29 < keinek_> thanks
04:29 < keinek_> in kdepim?
04:29 < keinek_> [T] This package contains KDE's PIM applications like: kmail, kandy,
04:29 < keinek_> [T] korganizer, kpilot, knotes, ksync and others.
04:29 < keinek_> yiiipy!
04:29 < keinek_> :D
04:29 < keinek_> :)
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04:32 < jadawin> hello everyone
04:32 < jadawin> i come here with a weird problem
04:32 < jadawin> i just installed T2 2.2 alpha in my laptop and it seems to run ok
04:33 < jadawin> but now i noticed that upon login time, the password check only checks for the first 8 chars
04:34 < jadawin> my passwords are all bigger than that and i noticed that i can login with passwords with the first 8 chars only or followed by anything
04:34 < jadawin> this is true for users i created as well as for root
04:34 < jadawin> in my T2 2.1rc3 that i have installed in another computer this doesn't happen
04:35 < jadawin> is this some nasty bug or some expected behaviour?
04:35 < jadawin> :/
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06:53 < rxr> re
07:59 < CIA-18> rene * r15774 /trunk/package/security/dropbear/dropbear.desc: * updated dropbear (0.47 -> 0.48.1)
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08:30 < misl> moring folks :)
08:57 < valentin> moin
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09:19 < mnemoc> moin!
09:20 < mnemoc> rxr: i got into my build server and it's not as lagged as i expected
09:29 < misl> hi valentin, mnemoc
09:29 < misl> mnemoc: How is Berlin?
09:33 < valentin> hi misl mnemoc rxr
09:33 < mnemoc> misl: i haven't seen much, but feels good :)
09:33 < mnemoc> hi valentin
09:33 < misl> :)
09:34 < misl> mnemoc: How about the wheather compared to home?
09:34 < misl> You must be freezing?
09:34 < mnemoc> not that much :)
09:35 < valentin> was there much snow in hannover ?
09:35 < mnemoc> of course it's very different, but i have not been too much time on the streets
09:35 < mnemoc> today we have sun :)
09:35 < mnemoc> but yesterday was very cold
09:36 < misl> is mnemoc on Cebit?
09:36 < valentin> misl: they were
09:36 < valentin> as you would have known if the mailinglist had worked...
09:36 < misl> ahh, so no T2 stand on Cebit this year
09:37 < mnemoc> uhm?
09:37 < valentin> misl: a 3 day booth only
09:37 < mnemoc> we were 3 days there, which is much better than 0 days
09:37 < misl> Unfortunately I did no go there this year :(
09:37 < mnemoc> :(
09:38 < misl> made any interesting contact ?
09:38 < mnemoc> some good oportunities.... we will see
09:41 < valentin> mnemoc: so you are still at rxr's parents or in berlin again ?
09:41 < valentin> i want to phone rxr
09:54 * misl out for some family quality time :) bbl
09:54 < mnemoc> valentin: yes, he is downstairs
09:54 < mnemoc> misl: :)
10:04 < sepp> hello :)
10:05 < mnemoc> hi sepp
10:05 < sepp> hi mnemoc
10:06 < mnemoc> rxr: is CIA been notified?
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11:07 < owl> moin
11:10 < valentin> moin owl, sepp
11:38 < owl> hi valentin
11:50 < LMJ> moin moin
11:55 < owl> hi LMJ
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12:13 * misl is back :)
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12:27 < jadawin> huuhuu
12:27 < jadawin> i mean hello
12:27 < jadawin> :)
12:27 < misl> hi jadawin
12:28 < jadawin> hi misl
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12:32 < nzg> moin
12:33 < jadawin> hi nzg
12:33 < misl> hi nzg
12:41 < jadawin> guys, yesterday i installed T2 2.2-alpha on my laptop and now i noticed i have problems when logging in, it seems only the first 8 chars of my password are verified, any idea on why this is happens?
12:42 < rxr> most probably due to changes in pam
12:43 < rxr> guess some default value changed and it and/or shadow use crypt instead of the newer style md5
12:43 < rxr> e.g. this 8char pass is also the default on suse and others
12:43 < rxr> I can take a look later
12:43 < jadawin> ok, so it's not some security breach or something here right?
12:44 < rxr> yep
12:44 < rxr> just a config
12:44 < rxr> with 8chars it is crypt and not md5
12:44 < rxr> there shoudl be an option to control this
12:44 < jadawin> ok, phew i was getting a bit scared about it
12:44 < rxr> pam changed alot in the last time
12:45 < jadawin> well, as long as it's a somewhat expected behavior i'm a bit more comfortable with it
12:47 < misl> rxr: is there something wrong with t2 svn server?
12:47 < rxr> yes
12:47 < rxr> momemnt
12:47 < misl> Ack, I thought so
12:47 < misl> BTW hi rxr
12:48 < rxr> hi misl
12:48 < LMJ> moin rxr
12:49 < rxr> moin LMJ
12:49 < LMJ> how are you ?
12:54 < rxr> done a lot of t2 pr at the cebit ...
12:54 < rxr> ,-)
12:54 < rxr> fine but busy ...
12:55 < rxr> and got some potentially interesting contract possibilities so far
12:55 < misl> rxr: Obtained any good prospect at Cebit?
12:55 < misl> nice!
12:55 < rxr> yes
12:55 < rxr> a swiss company does a nice linxu smartphone ...
12:56 < rxr> quad band, wifi, bluetooth, gps and all for just 299EUR they say
12:56 < misl> got any url?
12:56 < mnemoc> rxr felt in love with that smartphone
12:56 < rxr> misl: I can crawl it up later
12:56 < rxr> but it is not running t2, since they did not know us
12:57 < rxr> but we exchanged some contact data and see for the future ,-))
12:57 < misl> Do they consider switching>
12:57 < misl> > = ?
12:57 < rxr> not in the short term
12:57 < rxr> since it is ready for marked right now
12:57 < rxr> but one never knows for next versions and so on
12:57 < rxr> or just parts like driver or app stuff and so on ...
12:57 < misl> Very interesting :)
12:58 < CIA-18> amery * r15777 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config: * changed ccache to only cleanup the cache if atime support is available on the fs
12:59 * mnemoc hug CIA
13:00 < CIA-18> msluis * r15778 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/parse-config: * added proper parse-config support for ibm-jdk-150.
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13:06 < lowercase> hello!
13:10 < LMJ> hello mnemoc and misl
13:10 < LMJ> and lowercase
13:10 < misl> hi LMJ
13:13 < lowercase> i'm trying to 'svn co' your t2 development tree and well, i have some problems :/
13:13 < lowercase> svn co svn://svn2.exactcode.de/t2/trunk just times out
13:14 < lowercase> oh, the master site works now
13:14 < lowercase> nvm then ^^;
13:16 < rxr> sorry, svn2 is not up right now
13:17 < CIA-18> rene * r15779 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config:
13:17 < CIA-18> Alejandro Mery and Rene Rebe:
13:17 < CIA-18> * fixed new ccache atime detection code to really work
13:20 < jadawin> k guys, i'll bbl, thx for the explanation on that login/pam thing
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13:23 < CIA-18> rene * r15780 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/ (. exact-image.cache exact-image.desc): * added exact-image (0.0.1) - A fast imaging library including command line frontend
13:26 < CIA-18> msluis * r15781 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-160/ (6 files): * added sun-jre-160 (6-beta) - SUN Java Runtime Environment
13:26 < morfoh> re
13:26 < CIA-18> msluis * r15782 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-160/ (6 files): * added sun-jdk-160 (6-beta) - SUN Java Development Kit
13:26 < misl> :)
13:26 < misl> hi morfoh
13:26 < morfoh> hi misl :)
13:28 < CIA-18> msluis * r15783 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-dirtree.conf: * added profile.d support for newly added Sun Java 6 JRE and JDK.
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13:52 < rxr> hi morfoh
13:52 < morfoh> hi rxr
13:53 < morfoh> rxr: was it right that lua-config wasn't returning --cflags an --libs ?
13:55 < rxr> no idea
13:55 * rxr never used lua
13:56 < rxr> jsaw: and valentin: are better to ask
13:57 < morfoh> rxr: I've done some local changes here to create also a proper lua.pc for pkg-config
13:58 < morfoh> I think that will solve some issue for 3rd. party applications that can use lua i some way, i.e. like lighttpd does for it mod_cml
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14:17 < CIA-18> chris * r15784 /trunk/package/develop/lua/ (build.patch lua.conf lua.pc string-split.patch):
14:17 < CIA-18> * added template for lua.pc pkgconfig file
14:17 < CIA-18> * splitted up postmake function
14:17 < CIA-18> * added function and hook for creating lua.pc pkgconfig file if we have pkgconfig installed
14:17 < CIA-18> * added missing copyright to the patches
14:21 < CIA-18> chris * r15785 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf: * enabled check for lua and if we can build lighttpd's mod_cml plugin
14:24 < valentin> 14:56 < morfoh> rxr: was it right that lua-config wasn't returning --cflags an --libs ?
14:24 < valentin> morfoh: i never saw it returning that
14:25 < morfoh> rxr: valentin it couldn't because the package replaced @CFLAGS@ with $myCFLAGS which was empty
14:25 < morfoh> in the conf
14:25 < valentin> morfoh: did we break that ?
14:26 < morfoh> dunno who wa breaking that ?
14:26 < morfoh> at least now it seems to work correctly
14:26 < valentin> hm, okay then - cu later
14:26 < morfoh> valentin: cu ... but if you can check you lua stuff with the change later it would be nice :)
14:27 < morfoh> valentin: I just know, that I updated the package some days before, but I didn't changed anything in the conf afaik
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14:44 < morfoh> package/x86/icc/patches/pkg_fileutil
14:45 < morfoh> s_sysmacros.patch
14:45 < morfoh> why the heck it's including a icc patch when using gcc ?
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15:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: can you check your changes you made with r15756
15:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: why didn't you replaced the loop for adding the icc patchfiles ?
15:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: instead of adding the patches without checking if ICC was selected as default CC
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15:20 < keinek> hi
15:39 < mnemoc> hi
15:43 < morfoh> hi keinek
15:43 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
15:43 < keinek> hi morfoh
15:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: if you've some time you can check r15756
15:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: see my last message
15:47 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
15:47 < mnemoc> let see...
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15:48 < keinek_> i was lost my connection :(
15:48 < keinek_> i was say
15:48 < keinek_> hi morfoh
15:48 < keinek_> mnemoc, told me that Cleanup solve my problems.
15:48 < keinek_> :)
15:48 < keinek_> i am very happy with my old t2-trunk.
15:48 < keinek_> morfoh, you try cvs cedega?
15:48 < keinek_> i will send again the scripts to the list for testing.
15:49 < morfoh> keinek_: nope ... no time for that atm
15:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: where could I "register" new users/groups ?
15:49 < mnemoc> morfoh: uhm, icc's parse-config is not limited to "icc enabled"
15:49 < mnemoc> morfoh: misc/share/REGISTER
15:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: thx
15:50 < mnemoc> yw
15:50 < keinek_> mnemoc, i cant compile fpc
15:50 < keinek_> and... i need free pascal
15:50 < keinek_> :(
15:50 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... but why isn't it limited to ICC ?
15:50 < keinek_> :'(
15:51 < keinek_> i want to write a note for the magazine about free pascal, the old language for teachers
15:52 < keinek_> morfoh, the scripts is now in the list.
15:52 < keinek_> is a good script for compile learning all versions of wine
15:52 < keinek_> :)
15:54 < CIA-18> amery * r15787 /trunk/package/x86/icc/parse-config: * fixed icc's patching applying
15:55 < mnemoc> keinek_: "i can't compile" is doesn't help us to help you
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16:00 < mnemoc> http://www.keplerproject.org/
16:00 < morfoh_> mnemoc: and ?
16:00 < mnemoc> [17:02:21]
16:01 < morfoh_> mnemoc: it's a lua related project, mostly for web stuff
16:02 < mnemoc> yep, i was looking to a language to make a dynamic, propably even AJAX, framework like webmin for embedded or other targets
16:03 < morfoh_> mnemoc: sounds interesting ... I think lua could be quite neat for that
16:03 < mnemoc> yep
16:04 < morfoh_> mnemoc: even for sth. like a "CLI"
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16:05 < mnemoc> this ksirc crap is worse than xchat
16:05 < morfoh_> :)
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16:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think using lua one could write a "CLI" based configuration "shell" and a webinterface quite well
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16:13 < CIA-18> amery * r15788 /trunk/package/mail/bogofilter/bogofilter.desc: * updated bogofilter (0.95.2 -> 1.0.2)
16:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: what do you think about adding sth. like "ipsvc {tcp,udp}" to TAIL ?
16:29 < mnemoc> one day TAIL will generate scripts for ipsvd and xinetd
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16:30 < mnemoc> but i have lot of thing to do to be able to really generate configure (one time), services (background or supervised) and internet services (on demand) scripts from TAIL files
16:31 < mnemoc> i also want to create users and groups from there, instead of postsysfiles
16:31 < mnemoc> .conf
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16:31 < keinek> mnemoc, i ask if anybody have problems with that packet
16:31 < keinek> :)
16:33 < mnemoc> keinek: good
16:34 < misl> morfoh: the error you reported before (about icc fileutils patch), do you already know what caused it?
16:35 < mnemoc> wasnt it fixed by 15788?
16:35 < CIA-18> chris * r15789 /trunk/package/network/net-snmp/net-snmp.conf:
16:35 < CIA-18> * removed the default injection of "--with-libwrap" confopt because it breaks on targets without tcp_wrappers like mnemosyne that uses ipsvd
16:35 < CIA-18> * added a check for tcp_wrappers and if we can inject "--with-libwrap" confopt
16:36 < morfoh> misl: svn up ... 15787 solved it ... I did the same change on a build here before
16:36 < misl> ack
16:39 < CIA-18> chris * r15790 /trunk/misc/share/REGISTER: * registered memcached user and group (UID/GID 45)
16:40 < CIA-18> chris * r15791 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/memcached-memcached.tail: * added TAIL for memcached
16:52 < CIA-18> chris * r15792 /trunk/package/network/memcached/postsysfiles.in: * added postsysfiles.in for creating memcached user and group
16:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: have you ever build php as fastcgi
17:03 < keinek> mnemoc, morfoh : Look my old atari :P http://red-handed.gsol.ws/fotos/atari/index.html
17:03 < keinek> Now all users of t2 can play with the emulator stella ;)
17:06 < morfoh> keinek: :)
17:16 < mnemoc> morfoh: mnemosyne does it by default if you have lighttpd as web server
17:17 < morfoh> hmmm... strange
17:19 < mnemoc> set lighttpd and PHP using mnemosyne configurator
17:19 < morfoh> what magic did you added there ? :)
17:19 < mnemoc> no magic
17:20 < mnemoc> i think it's even on php.conf
17:20 < mnemoc> and not on mnemosyne
17:21 < morfoh> but then it doesn't seem to work
17:21 < mnemoc> if pkginstalled apache; then
17:21 < mnemoc> pkgprefix -t apache
17:21 < mnemoc> var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-apxs2=$( pkgprefix sbindir apache )/apxs"
17:21 < mnemoc> else
17:21 < mnemoc> var_append extraconfopt " " "--enable-fastcgi"
17:21 < mnemoc> var_append extraconfopt " " "--enable-force-cgi-redirect"
17:21 < mnemoc> fi
17:23 < morfoh> hmmm ... yeah. I saw that before. but no php-cgi get's created
17:24 < morfoh> ah! ic ... sorry
17:24 < morfoh> /usr/bin/php -v
17:24 < morfoh> PHP 5.1.2 (cgi-fcgi) (built: Mar 12 2006 18:21:16)
17:25 < morfoh> I thought it was named php-cgi or so
17:25 * mnemoc slaps morfoh
17:26 < morfoh> hey!
17:26 * morfoh *kicks* mnemoc
17:27 < mnemoc> pff
17:27 * mnemoc kicks back
17:27 * morfoh *kicks* mnemoc again
17:27 < sepp> fight club?
17:28 < morfoh> sepp: it seems so :)
17:29 * mnemoc push sepp from the back
17:29 < sepp> o_O
17:29 * morfoh smashes mnemoc head
17:29 * morfoh runs away
17:30 < mnemoc> outch
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17:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: phppgadmin seems to work with lighttpd :)
17:56 < misl> yuck :(
17:56 < misl> miniperl still fails :(
17:57 < misl> libperl.a(pp.o)(.text+0x24f2): In function `Perl_pp_pow':
17:57 < misl> pp.c: undefined reference to `pow'
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19:08 < CIA-18> chris * r15793 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/unionfs.desc: * updated unionfs (1.1.2 -> 1.1.3)
19:11 < sepp> login.defs needs "MD5_CRYPT_ENAB yes" to use md5, which also disables PASS_MAX_LEN - but i don't know if that breaks pam
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20:26 < jsaw> re
20:28 < morfoh> wb dr.j. ;)
20:28 < jsaw> ...
20:28 < jsaw> hi morfoh :)
20:30 < jsaw> pc_install_path in usr/share ???
20:31 < morfoh> $libdir=$datadir of pkgconfig are the same
20:32 < jsaw> nope
20:32 < morfoh> nope ?
20:32 < jsaw> pkgconfig dir resides in */lib*, not in */share/
20:33 < morfoh> ok ... if you want to have it there no problem ... I had libdir before, and it was populating the lua.pc to the same dir
20:34 < jsaw> here, it went to /usr/share/pkgconfig... that's wrong, or?
20:34 < morfoh> ack
20:34 < morfoh> strange
20:34 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15794 /trunk/package/develop/lua/lua.conf:
20:34 < CIA-18> * pkgconfig belongs to $libdir
20:34 < CIA-18> * add -DLUA_USE_POSIX to CFLAGS
20:35 < jsaw> morfoh: pkgconfig uses default set_confopt, so -> datadir is /usr/share
20:35 < morfoh> jsaw: then sth. is wrong here
20:35 < jsaw> morfoh: maybe that's not exactly the way it should be?
20:35 < jsaw> morfoh: do you have a symlink?
20:36 < morfoh> nope
20:36 < jsaw> hmmm
20:36 < jsaw> iso-codes.pc is also in /usr/share, here
20:39 < morfoh> jsaw: do you agree with the rest of the lua.conf changes ?
20:39 < jsaw> what exactly, I only looked at the pc_postmake
20:39 < jsaw> (and that's perfectly fine)
20:40 < morfoh> good
20:41 < jsaw> oh, my{cflags,libs}, good catch
20:42 < morfoh> jsaw: I think lua-config wasn't returning them
20:42 < morfoh> I mean. before my changes
20:43 < jsaw> ohoh
20:43 < jsaw> thanks
20:43 < morfoh> np. it was fixed while doing some other stuff. :)
20:43 < jsaw> :)
20:44 < morfoh> and having a proper lua-config and lua.pc cannot hurt, regarding of possible 3rd. party apps
20:45 < jsaw> yep, however... the lua 3rd party apps build process is a mess
20:45 < jsaw> debian has lua-config...
20:45 < morfoh> I can imagine
20:45 < jsaw> but not the standard lua
20:46 < jsaw> so...
20:46 < jsaw> there are many packages with the developers local build settings...
20:46 < morfoh> ohoh
20:46 < jsaw> like "gcc ... -L/user/j/jsaw/build/lua/lib ... " or so
20:47 < jsaw> s/or so/and such/
20:47 < jsaw> that's something the really bugs me about lua
20:48 < morfoh> ack. hopefully in my case, lighttpd has support for lua-config and pkgconfig
20:49 < morfoh> so after fixing it building the mod_cml which needs lua was no problem anymore
20:50 < jsaw> oh, nice :)
20:50 < morfoh> yes :)
20:51 < jsaw> only, I didn't check if debian's lua-config has "--pkg{lib,data}dir", do you have a box to check this?
20:51 < morfoh> nope
20:51 < morfoh> sorry
20:51 < morfoh> jsaw: bootstrap one in a vserver :p
20:51 < jsaw> np... once there's a package that requires options our lua-config doesn't have we'll notice ;)
20:52 < jsaw> morfoh: :p
20:52 < morfoh> :)
20:53 < morfoh> jsaw: btw, this lighttpd is quite nice, and support within T2 is becoming better :)
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20:55 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15795 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/ (iso-codes.desc pkgconfig-path.patch):
20:55 < CIA-18> * updated iso-codes (0.49 -> 0.50)
20:55 < CIA-18> * add patch to install pkgconfig in /usr/lib*, not /usr/share
20:55 < jsaw> morfoh: hmm, the [T] is already an interesting read
20:56 < morfoh> jsaw: yes, give it a try if you need a webserver
20:57 < morfoh> with php, fastcgi, etc
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20:59 < jsaw> morfoh: hmmm. what's about SSL and SVN?
20:59 < morfoh> ssl is supported by a module
21:00 < morfoh> no svn so far, but you could proxy svn stuff to an apache
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21:03 < jsaw> ...then I have both...
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21:06 < jsaw> 157 Deg C... my HD boils
21:17 < keinek_> hey guys, what is the best encrypt system: blowfish, des, twofish ?
21:18 < keinek_> i was playing with losetup and filesystems :)
21:18 < _Ragnar_> not de
21:18 < _Ragnar_> des*
21:18 < keinek_> blowfish work fine, is the best?
21:19 < _Ragnar_> blowfish should work yea
21:19 < _Ragnar_> at least I know of no weakness
21:19 < keinek_> yes, in t2 work fine for me.
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21:19 < keinek_> but... is secure?
21:20 < sepp_> if you want to be unable to use the encrypted backup in a half, year use the in kernel crypto :D
21:21 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
21:21 * _Ragnar_ should revive transcrypt ;)
21:22 < keinek_> blowfish-256, 256 bits of crypto :P
21:22 < keinek_> more bits, more slowly.
21:22 < keinek_> :D
21:25 < jsaw> is klear installing fine now?
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21:32 < jsaw> maybe, with the soon to come 2.2, we should walk through trac... ?
21:33 < morfoh> yes ... if you mean s/walk/work/
21:34 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15796 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/apache-run.txt: * "exec 2>&1" not "echo * "exec...
21:34 < mnemoc> oh
21:36 < jsaw> mnemoc: where's the "/etc/runit/" created?
21:37 < mnemoc> runit/parse-config i think
21:37 < mnemoc> or maybe $sysconfopt.... which is automatic
21:37 < mnemoc> err
21:37 < mnemoc> $sysconfdir
21:38 < jsaw> what source?
21:38 < jsaw> or, where is it?
21:39 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/runit/djb-config
21:40 < keinek_> hey guy : AES-256 or Twofish-256?
21:41 < jsaw> mnemoc: htf does X11R6 appear in the PATH variable...?
21:41 < mnemoc> what? where?.. too many question for this old and tired man
21:42 < jsaw> grep X11R6 /user/vservers/http/etc/runit/2
21:42 < jsaw> PATH=/command:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
21:42 < mnemoc> fix the patch :)
21:43 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15797 /trunk/package/base/prelink/prelink.conf.data: * s/X11R6/X11/g
21:43 < jsaw> mnemoc: ? what patch ???
21:43 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/runit/rockify.patch
21:44 < jsaw> ah
21:45 < mnemoc> any other question before going to sleep?
21:46 < jsaw> no
21:47 < jsaw> sleep well, mnemoc
21:47 < mnemoc> :) thanks
21:47 < mnemoc> gn8 #t2... tomorrow to CeBIT again
21:48 < jsaw> mv self /dev/lab
21:48 < jsaw> cu later
21:48 < mnemoc> cu jsaw :)
21:49 < mnemoc> jsaw: btw, i want to make a web-based (probably AJAX) interface for administrating T2-powered machines using LUA, if you have any design for stone/Config abstraction in mind
21:50 < mnemoc> jsaw: and also a gdb-like interface so we can make a remote interface for Config, building and monitoring
21:50 < mnemoc> ok, good night
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21:55 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15798 /trunk/package/audio/streamripper/streamripper.desc: * updated streamripper (1.61.17 -> 1.61.18)
22:10 < jsaw> re
22:12 < sepp_> wb jsaw :)
22:14 < sepp_> keinek_: AES-256 is as fast/slow as Twofish-256
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22:15 < jsaw> hi sepp
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23:19 < owl> gn8
23:25 < jsaw> gn8 owl
23:31 < jsaw> off to bed, too, cu
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