--- Log opened Sat Feb 18 00:00:48 2006 01:23 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15538 /trunk/package/develop/expect/expect.desc: * fix tcl detection for libdir != */lib 01:37 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15539 /trunk/package/base/automake/automake.postinstall: 01:37 < CIA-18> * create dirlist for aclocal (list of directories where aclocal 01:37 < CIA-18> files are found) 01:39 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-161-51.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 01:39 < keinek> hi 01:39 < jsaw> oh, somebody else awake :) 01:39 < jsaw> hi keinek 01:40 < keinek> hi jsaw 01:40 < keinek> here in argentina is 22:42 pm :P 01:40 < jsaw> de, 2:40 01:40 < jsaw> (am) 01:41 < keinek> :) 01:41 < keinek> same world, different time. 01:41 < keinek> :) 01:43 < jsaw> same world, different locales :p 01:44 < jsaw> what's going on in argentina? 01:49 < keinek> i finish my dinner 01:49 < keinek> and... 01:49 < keinek> today i back from the club. 01:50 < keinek> i swing 01:50 < keinek> i like the sport in the water. 01:50 < keinek> sorry for my english. 01:50 < jsaw> dinner? and hanging around on #t2... you must be single 01:50 < keinek> :) 01:50 < keinek> yes i am alone. 01:50 < keinek> :D 01:52 < jsaw> don't excuse your english, reserve that for somebody you're talking to who's mother language _is_ english 01:52 < jsaw> ;) 01:52 < jsaw> (well I'm not single, but still, hanging around on #t2 at this time... everybody's asleep) 01:53 < jsaw> :| 01:53 < keinek> i see perhaps xmame have new version :P 01:54 < keinek> i must send new patch :D 01:54 < keinek> i like emulators 01:54 < jsaw> so, you are a water rat? 01:54 < jsaw> keinek: hehe 01:54 < keinek> :) 01:55 < jsaw> swimming pool or sea? 01:55 < keinek> for now pool 01:55 < keinek> :) 01:55 < jsaw> .oO(I miss the north sea once in a while) 01:55 < keinek> is more safe 01:56 < jsaw> oh, yeah, right. I remember the jellyfish in the north sea, not really dangerous, but still not nice 01:57 < keinek> in the pool you have the corner :) 01:57 < jsaw> hmmm 01:57 < jsaw> sounds like you already made good friends with 'em 01:58 < keinek> what is 'em? 01:58 < jsaw> them, the corners 01:58 < keinek> i need the dictionary :P 01:59 < jsaw> I don't think, that's in a dictionary... 01:59 < jsaw> read some rap texts... 01:59 < keinek> :) 02:00 < keinek> jsaw this month 02:00 < keinek> the magazine linux+ 02:00 < keinek> publish a note about t2 02:00 < keinek> write by me 02:00 < keinek> :) 02:00 < jsaw> *great* 02:00 < keinek> i have two pictures in my foro 02:00 < keinek> with the magazine. 02:01 < keinek> mnemoc got the version in polish 02:01 < keinek> :P 02:01 < jsaw> "foro" ? 02:01 < jsaw> :P 02:01 < keinek> sorry 02:01 < keinek> forum 02:01 < keinek> :P 02:01 < keinek> http://red-handed.gsol.ws/foros/viewtopic.php?t=28 02:01 < keinek> look 02:01 < jsaw> :) 02:02 < keinek> the text say 02:02 < keinek> I am in my house in this hot summer 02:03 < keinek> i am happy with the magazine 02:03 < jsaw> the first sentence I understood 02:03 < keinek> something like that 02:03 < keinek> :) 02:03 < keinek> yes? 02:03 < keinek> :) 02:03 < keinek> you speak spanish? 02:03 < keinek> a bit? 02:04 < jsaw> no. I just remember a few words from long long long time ago when I had a spanish girl friend. 02:04 < keinek> where is she from? 02:04 < keinek> spain? 02:04 < jsaw> the rest is guessing (english, some french I used to know...) 02:04 < jsaw> Madrid 02:05 < keinek> ok, spain. 02:05 < keinek> and she was pretty? 02:05 < jsaw> yep 02:06 < keinek> i need some woman. 02:06 < keinek> :P 02:06 < keinek> mnemoc have two little sisters, you know? 02:07 < keinek> but just 14 years old. 02:07 < jsaw> no, I didn't 02:07 < keinek> With Madtux i was tell mnemoc. 02:07 < keinek> that 02:07 < keinek> i will go together to chile. 02:07 < keinek> :) 02:08 < keinek> in two years 02:08 < keinek> :D 02:08 < jsaw> hurry up before he starts liking germany (which I honestly do not believe in the long run) 02:08 < keinek> yes, next month mnemoc go to germany... 02:09 * jsaw would love to see Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, etc. etc. etc. 02:10 < keinek> jsaw when we have a new stable version of t2? 02:10 < keinek> i use the 2.1.1.1 02:10 < keinek> but i was try thje 2.2 but fail in the stage 1, in gcc or glibc :( 02:10 < keinek> too unstable. 02:11 < keinek> 2.1.1.1 work fine 02:11 < keinek> :) 02:11 < jsaw> I think we will need another 2-4month. The whole 64bit thing stops the fast progress a bit. 02:11 < jsaw> keinek: what failed? 02:11 < keinek> gcc 02:11 < keinek> or glibc 02:12 < keinek> in stage 1 02:12 < jsaw> do you remember why? 02:12 < keinek> no, i just a tester. 02:12 < keinek> :) 02:12 < keinek> but i try crossbuild. 02:12 < keinek> but the same thing 02:12 < keinek> meaby i need to install a pre compiler 2.2 version. 02:12 < jsaw> hmm 02:12 < keinek> i use a 2.1 version of t2 for build the new. 02:13 < keinek> gcc is olders than 2.2 version. 02:13 < jsaw> that shouldn't fail that ugly. 02:13 < keinek> i better use the 2.1.1.1 :P 02:13 < keinek> but i have not the live cd 02:13 < keinek> :( 02:13 < keinek> i never work that. 02:14 < jsaw> if you find some time to pinpoint the problem, that would be great 02:14 < keinek> ok 02:14 < keinek> next 28 of feb 02:14 < keinek> my work finish. 02:14 < keinek> and i will looking for new job. 02:15 < keinek> i will have some much time to test that :) 02:15 < jsaw> hmmm 02:15 < jsaw> I have to look for a new job in 2 years. And I really don't know what to do. 02:15 < keinek> you dont have a job? 02:16 < keinek> or you job finish in 2 years? 02:16 < jsaw> Stay in science (then I have to convince my family to go abroad for some time) or find a job in a company... 02:16 < jsaw> I finish in 2 years 02:16 < keinek> why 2 years? 02:16 < keinek> is writing like this? 02:16 < keinek> a contract? 02:17 < jsaw> maximum possible time to stay at this place. That's the way it works in the scientific community... it's called "on the tramps", when done, I could come back 02:17 < keinek> ok. 02:18 < keinek> but you know, new things come 02:18 < keinek> the destiny 02:18 < keinek> but i wanna know where i am in next two years :) 02:19 < jsaw> well, yes, you are right (though, I'd call it 'guidance') 02:20 < jsaw> brb, cig break 02:20 < keinek> :) 02:23 < jsaw> re 02:28 < jsaw> I should go and find some sleep, 1st birthday of my second daughter tomorrow... 02:29 < jsaw> parents-in-law snoring in the living room... 02:30 < jsaw> gotta be up early... 02:30 < jsaw> cu keinek 02:30 < keinek> cu jsaw 02:30 < keinek> :) 02:30 < keinek> i go to sleep 02:30 < keinek> too 02:30 < keinek> :) 02:30 < jsaw> :) 02:30 < jsaw> g'night, sleep well 02:30 < keinek> have pretty dreams 02:30 < keinek> :) 02:35 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.134] has joined #t2 02:46 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15540 /trunk/package/develop/itcl/itcl.desc: * discover tclConfig.sh for libdir != */lib 02:48 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has joined #t2 02:49 < mnemoc> i wont have DSL until for at least a week at office :\ 03:01 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 03:01 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has joined #t2 03:13 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178137236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 03:13 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 03:13 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 03:13 [Users #t2] 03:13 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ ] [ owl ] [ sepp_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 03:13 [ axion_ ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 03:13 [ CIA-18 ] [ keinek] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 03:13 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 03:13 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 03:13 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 03:14 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 42 secs 03:20 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-161-51.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:21 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178159066.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 03:34 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-176-125.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 04:02 -!- jgs__ [n=jgs@p54AD4526.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:09 < mnemoc> gn8 04:09 < mnemoc> cu.... tomorrow night :-\ 04:09 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has left #t2 [] 04:16 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD42A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:00 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD3A37.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 05:14 -!- jgs__ [n=jgs@p54AD4526.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:55 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.246.221] has joined #t2 05:55 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.134] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:49 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-176-125.mrse.com.ar] has quit ["Abandonando"] 08:18 < valentin> moin 09:03 < karasz> moin all 09:10 < rxr_> re 09:10 < rxr_> moin valentin 09:10 < rxr_> valentin: thanks for the mail - though not that interste because the difficult boot stuff can not be done remotely that comfortable 09:10 < rxr_> valentin: and we have some powers around, that is e.g. my dual-core G5 ,-) 09:10 -!- You're now known as rxr 09:10 < rxr> valentin: gcc-4.0 is really sucking in auto-vectorization 09:11 < rxr> valentin: yesterday afternoon I tried very hard hanging around in starbucks caffe to get a loop of optimize2bw vectorized 09:11 < rxr> valentin: and the lazzy gcc does not want to - first thing is it does not seem to support vectorizing "nested" loops 09:11 < rxr> and with most algorithms you pretty soon get nested loops 09:12 < rxr> and even if moved out into a inlined function, just to make gcc vectorize it as it no longer is a classic nested loop, it does not recognize it as vectorizeable and if moved into int main()'s top it does just spits out float, double or int would be unsupported types :-((( 09:13 < rxr> maybe I try gcc-4.1 today ... 09:16 < LMJ> moin moin 09:16 < karasz> moin rxr, LMJ 09:23 < rxr> yeah - moin all 10:19 < valentin> moin rxr 10:20 < valentin> rxr: hm, i thought gcc folks are competent 10:21 < valentin> bbl 10:23 < valentin> rxr: maybe you can write that ibm guy to install t2 instead of debian on theese boxes, so the rockers have a good host system for their rock development ;) 10:25 < valentin> so, realy bbl now 10:25 < rxr> valentin: rock would not build with ppc64 host ,-) 10:26 < rxr> valentin: /me working on a xevie application intercepting X key events and potentionally not pass those thru to injct certain key 10:26 < rxr> combinations into database tables - quite fun ,-) 10:38 < rxr> std::string has no pop_back ?!?! 10:38 < rxr> damned C++ standard ... 10:38 < rxr> ... and it's forgotten methods .. 10:39 < valentin> rxr: use substring method 10:39 * valentin wanted to be away now ;) 10:40 < rxr> cool 10:40 < rxr> tr: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range' 10:40 < rxr> what(): basic_string::erase 10:40 < rxr> that issue printout is new and helpful ,- 10:40 < rxr> cu valentin 10:40 < valentin> rxr: do you know since when allocated memory under linux gets unmapped after freed ? 10:41 < rxr> you bean not stayed allocated as with brk = 10:41 < rxr> ? 10:41 < rxr> this is since newer glibc's that use mmap for big allocations mmap of /dev/null IIRC 10:41 < rxr> those anonymous maps are then ummapped ... 10:41 < valentin> i.e x=new int[50]; delete[] x; y=x[0]; <= "cannot access memory at location ...." 10:42 < rxr> as opposted to brk 10:42 < valentin> nice 10:42 < valentin> okay, you need more than 50 elements :) 10:42 < rxr> but that depends on the c library, I think only glibc does this 10:42 < rxr> dietlibc included a tricky malloc - maybe it does as well 10:43 < valentin> well, i used glibc, so... 10:43 < valentin> so, cu now :) 10:44 < rxr> cu 11:08 -!- karasz_ [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 11:08 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:09 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz 11:22 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.246.221] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r15541 /trunk/target/archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc: 11:28 < CIA-18> * added av-xevie-sb, a most finished X event intercepter to allow 11:28 < CIA-18> initiating scans from the keyboard's number block (or optionally 11:28 < CIA-18> additional USB number blocks), to the archivista target 11:35 < rxr> Committed revision 463. 11:35 < rxr> ^- our http://www.exactcode.de homepage, if this continues it soon has a higher revision than rock-linux ,-) 11:39 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFCE2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 11:41 < CIA-18> rene * r15542 /trunk/target/archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc: 11:41 < CIA-18> * added KEY defines that are not on the currently deployed 11:41 < CIA-18> archivista X.org 6.8.x to the av-xevie-sb.cc 11:52 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF854A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:05 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.185.170.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 12:09 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.254.211] has joined #t2 12:20 < owl> moin 12:26 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.134.230.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:33 < karasz> moin owl 12:39 < rxr> moin owl and karasz 12:41 < CIA-18> rene * r15543 /trunk/target/archivista/pkgsel: 12:41 < CIA-18> * disabled perl-latexml for the archivista target temporarily, it is 12:41 < CIA-18> not yet strictly needed and required latex which is not installed 12:41 < CIA-18> completely 12:42 < CIA-18> rene * r15544 /trunk/target/archivista/kernel.conf.sh: 12:42 < CIA-18> * disabled PREEMPTION for the archivista target, it renders user-land 12:42 < CIA-18> USB i/o higly instable and it is required for SANE/Avision (et.al.) device 12:42 < CIA-18> access 12:52 < rxr> hm 12:52 < rxr> no mnemoc here ? 12:54 < rxr> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=2223 12:54 < rxr> ^- should be in 2.1 xorg until we update it to 6.9 ... 13:14 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.254.211] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:29 < CIA-18> rene * r15545 /trunk/target/archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc: 13:29 < CIA-18> * implemented the usual --script option and thus child execution 13:29 < CIA-18> for the archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc 13:45 < karasz> re 13:45 < karasz> anyone has an ideea abt this: `checking dependency style of gcc... make: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1` 14:44 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15546 /trunk/package/audio/openal/openal.desc: * add "freealut" (OpenAL Utility Toolkit) to openal 14:46 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15547 /trunk/package/gnome2/abiword/abiword.desc: 14:46 < CIA-18> * revert r15521, the reason why abiword fails on 64bit 14:46 < CIA-18> are .la files still containing -L/usr/lib in dependency list 14:48 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15548 /trunk/package/kde/kaffeine/ (kaffeine.conf kaffeine.desc): 14:48 < CIA-18> * hinder kaffeine to rebuild auto-tools 14:48 < CIA-18> (damn KDE automake mods) 15:01 < rxr> hi jsaw 15:01 < jsaw> hi rxr 15:01 < rxr> mr. hiding ,-I 15:01 < jsaw> hehe 15:02 < rxr> good that we have CIA to uncover you ,-) 15:02 < jsaw> :p 15:04 < rxr> jsaw: how are you ? 15:04 < jsaw> fine, thanks. I'm just sending a few patches while the rest of the big family rests, then Charlottes birthday continues... 15:05 < jsaw> and you ? 15:05 < rxr> hacking in Zuerich ,-) 15:05 < rxr> fine as well 15:05 < jsaw> oh, again? 15:05 < rxr> yep 15:05 < rxr> since some days 15:05 < jsaw> nice 15:07 < CIA-18> rene * r15549 /trunk/target/archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc: 15:07 < CIA-18> * additionally also accept the normal Enter code in the archivista 15:07 < CIA-18> av-xevie-sb.cc, since some keypads in the real-world send it instead 15:07 < CIA-18> the _KP_ code :-( 15:17 < CIA-18> rene * r15550 /trunk/target/archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc: 15:17 < CIA-18> * and the last feature for av-xevie-sb.cc, clear the buffer if the 15:17 < CIA-18> time difference to the last recorded key is more than 10s 15:19 < CIA-18> rene * r15551 /trunk/target/archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc: * ouhm - fixed av-xevie-sb.cc to not pass KP deletes thru ,-) 15:28 < CIA-18> rene * r15552 /trunk/target/archivista/av-xevie-sb.cc: * further fixed av-xevie-sb to update the timestamp when the buffer is reset 15:34 < rxr> ^- howto increate the t2 rev. efficently ,-) 16:06 < CIA-18> rene * r15553 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/ (menu startup): 16:06 < CIA-18> * added starting of the av-xevie-sb to the archivista fluxbox/startup - if 16:06 < CIA-18> configuredand removed the (AV220) note from the button setup menu entry 16:08 < CIA-18> rene * r15554 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/ (av-button.conf sudoers): 16:08 < CIA-18> * added associated sudo rules for av-xevie-sb as well as enabled the new 16:08 < CIA-18> button functionality by default 16:15 < CIA-18> rene * r15555 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network.sh: 16:15 < CIA-18> * improved the archivista target network setup to set the choice for DHCP 16:15 < CIA-18> to default to no if DHCP is not yet enabled 16:20 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-144-68.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 16:20 < keinek> hi 16:25 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 16:25 < misl> hi folks 16:26 < owl> hi misl 16:40 < rxr> hey missle 16:40 < rxr> greetings from the rainy zuerich ,-) 16:40 < owl> moin rxr 16:43 < misl> hey rxr, in Zurich again? ;-) must a good customer 16:44 < rxr> misl: especially with the ammount of t2 related work ,-) 16:46 < CIA-18> rene * r15556 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (.fluxbox/startup button-setup.sh): 16:46 < CIA-18> * renamed the archivista button setup variable for readability and 16:46 < CIA-18> implemented toggling the state from the usual button-setup script as well 16:46 < CIA-18> as fixed it to properly exit when cancel is clicked 16:46 < CIA-18> rene * r15557 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/av-button.conf: * renamed default av-button.conf option name, likewise 16:55 < CIA-18> rene * r15558 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (update-restore.sh update-store.sh): * implemended archivista update/restore for the new scan-button state 17:02 < CIA-18> rene * r15559 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/button-setup.sh: 17:02 < CIA-18> * fixed archivista/button-setup.sh to immediatly kill potentially 17:02 < CIA-18> running xevie daemons 17:07 < CIA-18> rene * r15560 /trunk/target/archivista/pkgsel: 17:07 < CIA-18> * enavled 99-final for the archivista target, it will later 17:07 < CIA-18> contain the av-xevie-sb 17:07 < karasz> re 17:07 < karasz> hello Minto, sepp 17:14 < misl> hi karasz 17:19 < owl> moin karasz 17:26 < karasz> hello owl 17:31 < CIA-18> pfister * r15561 /trunk/target/archivista/pkg_99-final.conf: * added compilation of av-xevie-sb to the archivista 99-final 17:35 < rxr> oops - --username would have been my friend ,-) 17:51 < rxr> cu 17:52 < karasz> bye rxr 18:09 < owl> bye rxr 18:10 < CIA-18> rene * r15562 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/button-setup.sh: * immediatly start av-xevie-sb in the archivisat/button-setup.sh 18:22 < keinek> in a minutes i will update de xmame package ;) 18:22 < keinek> the* 18:49 -!- karasz_ [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 18:49 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:49 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz 19:44 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-15-91.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 19:45 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-15-91.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:46 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-15-91.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 21:01 < valentin> hi 21:05 < karasz> hi valentin 21:15 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@200-70-144-122.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 21:18 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-144-68.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:28 < valentin> hi karasz 21:51 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:58 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 21:59 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 22:23 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-210-15-91.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 22:44 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:08 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.255.30] has joined #t2 23:36 < karasz> re 23:36 < karasz> rxr around? 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