T2 IRC Log: 2006-02-10

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--- Log opened Fri Feb 10 00:00:59 2006
00:10 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15388 /trunk/misc/vserver/ (9 files in 3 dirs): * initial implementation of a vserver installer tool
00:26 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15389 /trunk/misc/vserver/patterns/ (socklog stone): * add stone and socklog patterns
00:31 < morfoh> jsaw: do you have any ideas why udev with prio 187.500 isn't build before hotplug++ with 187.600 ?
00:31 < jsaw> stage?
00:31 < morfoh> 1
00:31 < jsaw> both?
00:32 < morfoh> both what ? sorry ... :)
00:32 < jsaw> do they have both the "1" in the [P] tag
00:32 < morfoh> yep ... of course :)
00:33 < jsaw> and no .err file left?
00:33 < morfoh> I did a full cleanup
00:35 * morfoh is wondering why he is getting so much mysterious problems since days ... :)
00:36 < jsaw> show me an 'fgrep [P]' of both files
00:37 < morfoh> fgrep [P] package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc
00:37 < morfoh> [P] X -1---5---9 187.500
00:37 < morfoh> fgrep [P] package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.desc
00:37 < morfoh> [P] X -1---5---9 187.600
00:38 < jsaw> now check the respective config/$config/packages file
00:38 < jsaw> if both are enabled
00:38 < morfoh> X -1---5---- 187.500 filesystem udev 083 / base/system base/kernel DIETLIBC 0
00:38 < morfoh> X -1---5---- 102.040 base hotplug++ 0.0.5 / base/system DIETLIBC 0
00:38 < morfoh> uhm ?
00:39 < jsaw> ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig
00:39 < morfoh> hmmm ... I thought I ran oldconfig ...
00:39 < morfoh> jsaw: thanks ... and sorry :)
00:40 < jsaw> np :)
00:40 < morfoh> jsaw: should better go sleep to be fit tomorrow at my meeting at the TU :)
00:40 < jsaw> yeah
00:40 < jsaw> and I should do sth. else...
00:41 < morfoh> for example :)
00:42 < jsaw> (writing a paper...)
00:42 < morfoh> fortunately I finished my work for tomorrow :)
00:44 < jsaw> ok, so catchword leaked... cu later ;)
00:44 < morfoh> jsaw: cu ... happy writing :)
00:44 < jsaw> :)
00:44 < jsaw> thanks
00:44 < jsaw> huh: GnuCash 1.9.0
00:44 < morfoh> :)
00:45 < jsaw> now a GTK2 app
00:45 < jsaw> yeah, svn del package/gnome14
00:45 < morfoh> jsaw: go writing :p
00:45 < jsaw> aye aye, Sir
00:45 * jsaw has disappeared
00:46 < morfoh> :)
00:46 < karasz> kommrad, gn8
00:46 < morfoh> oh! tovorish karasz ... still awake ? :)
00:47 < morfoh> karasz: thanks ... sleep well too :)
00:47 < karasz> yup, lurkin around, keepin an eye on things
00:47 < karasz> thx, later
00:48 < morfoh> karasz: you should better use both eyes :)
00:48 < karasz> do not be afraid kommrad :D
00:48 < karasz> lurkin is my speciality
00:49 < morfoh> :)
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01:06 < Baldzius> mnemoc: ok i give up, can't get xfce-terminal from svn to work
01:07 < Baldzius> if terminal is more important than thunar i'll revert those changes
01:09 < mnemoc> Baldzius: mail them
01:11 < Baldzius> s/work/compile/
01:18 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: what's wrong with your mirror?
01:20 < mnemoc> i have not need axion this week
01:38 < _Ragnar_> doesn't seem to work
01:40 < karasz> from here neither....
01:43 < mnemoc> ssh gives connection refused
01:44 < karasz> but I also had problems with one of the .cl sites, I just do not remember which one...
01:46 < mnemoc> both .cl are DSL lines
01:47 < karasz> problems as in returned error when mirror testing
01:47 < karasz> just like the american mirror
01:48 < mnemoc> yes, timeouts probably
01:48 < karasz> probably
01:49 < karasz> well, if i can grep myself together tommorow i will try to implement antivir and anti spamm to my qmail
01:49 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner +spamassassin + clamav
01:49 < karasz> but before I _must_ sleep, so cu guys
01:49 < karasz> yup
01:49 < mnemoc> cu
01:49 < karasz> spamassaain and clamav are up an runnin already
01:49 < mnemoc> but beware
01:50 < mnemoc> spamassaain's bayesian sucks badly
01:50 < karasz> hmm, i don't know any other anti spam
01:50 < mnemoc> crm114 and bogofilter are good
01:50 < mnemoc> but i don't know how to make spamassaain use them instead of it's sucking bayesian
01:50 < karasz> somehow i fear more qmail-scanner than the rest
01:51 < mnemoc> ack
01:51 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner is discusting by design
01:51 < karasz> i developed a phobia against words startin' with `qm`
01:51 < mnemoc> but qscanq damage the large mails
01:52 < karasz> maybe stupid question but since here is 4 am it can go:
01:52 < karasz> qmail-scanner-queue.pl is part of qmail-scanner?
01:53 < mnemoc> that is qmail-scanner
01:53 < karasz> good
01:53 < karasz> that means that qmail-scanner is installed
01:53 < karasz> so i need to worry only abt integration
01:54 < karasz> iirc i saw smth which replaces the value of qmailqueue in per host rules
01:55 < mnemoc> +QMAILQUEUE=foo
01:55 < karasz> yup
01:56 < karasz> instead of +QMAILQUEUE=/opt/qmail/bin/qmail-queue that one used +QMAILQUEUE=/opt/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl
01:57 < karasz> strange thing that in scanner.pl ClamAV is not listed as supported, maybe in the README file...
01:58 < karasz> now really I am gone, again cu
02:00 < mnemoc> night karasz
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02:27 < CIA-18> amery * r15390 /trunk/package/x86/lilo/stone_mod_lilo.sh: * fixed `stone lilo` to look for initrd at /boot
02:38 < mnemoc> what 'No Device Map found!' means on `stone grub` ?
02:42 < CIA-18> amery * r15391 /trunk/package/base/stone/stone_mod_general.sh: * changed `stone general` to only suggest 'Current' timezone if it's a good value
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04:07 < TheBeast> 'lo
04:07 < TheBeast> anyone around?
04:08 < TheBeast> *sigh*
04:08 < ojh> Hi Beast, what's up?
04:09 < TheBeast> oh, thank god someone's here
04:09 < TheBeast> ojh not bad :)
04:09 < TheBeast> I just have some questions. are you a t2 dev?
04:09 < ojh> Not a dev, but a resonably advanced user
04:10 < TheBeast> I need help with some linux headers. I basically want to bootstrap a system here and I don't know if I should use raw linux headers (directly from the tarball) or ... ?
04:10 < TheBeast> I'm really lost
04:10 < TheBeast> I saw this project hosted by the PLD linux distribution. they say their headers are the latest stable ones :)
04:11 < TheBeast> what does t2 use?
04:12 < ojh> Oh, well I have not actually bootstraped an install from just SRC, I have used the install CD to get up to a working system. I know the handbook has fairly complete directiond from starting with a Profile and creating an installed system or install ISO.
04:13 < ojh> I start with the stable ISO for starters then sync the tree and start building bleeding edge packages from Trunk.
04:13 < TheBeast> I understand
04:15 < ojh> Eventally I need to build some more advanced ISOs of my own. I will need to create a custom Live CD to demonstrate the custom desktop environment project I am developing.
04:17 < TheBeast> I'll use those "stable" linux headers from the pld project
04:17 < TheBeast> that's what linux from scratch uses. crux too:)
04:18 < ojh> Why not just use the Kernel from the tree? You adding some special patches or something?
04:18 < TheBeast> I'm not going to add anything
04:19 < TheBeast> but the kernel developers ecourage not to use raw linux headers from the tarball
04:19 < TheBeast> the ones considered stable by pld are 2.6.12.0
04:19 < TheBeast> have been released on july last year
04:20 < TheBeast> I'll stick to them since most of the source-based distros use em
04:21 < ojh> The tree does include a linux-header package along with linux24 & linux26
04:21 < ojh> In the 'base' directory.
04:22 < TheBeast> sorry? what do you mean by tree? the tarball or something?
04:23 < ojh> The T2 package tree is what I am refering to. What is in the tarball or what you get when you do a SVN sync.
04:24 < TheBeast> oh
04:24 < TheBeast> ojh I want to do this by my own. dunno how to explain this. I want to bootstrap a system by hand :)
04:24 < TheBeast> not use scripts and such
04:26 < ojh> Um . . . . T2 is just a bunch of scripts for building a system. The point is an extreamly flexable but completely automated system to build a working Linux based OS. I'm not sure I get what you are trying to do.
04:27 < TheBeast> I basically want to format a 30 gig partition mkdir boot dev etc lib usr blah blah
04:27 < TheBeast> copy over the kernel headers
04:27 < TheBeast> start building binutils with tools from my cd then bootstrap gcc or something
04:28 < TheBeast> builf glibc and create a small linux environment
04:28 < TheBeast> but not via script
04:28 < TheBeast> scripts*
04:28 < TheBeast> via MyWay(TM)
04:29 < ojh> Well, I know the T2 Handbook goes over several ways of bootstrapping a working T2 install - so that is where I would start. . .
04:30 < TheBeast> heh, I'll see :)
04:30 < ojh> http://t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2-handbookch15.html#x61-12000015
04:32 < ojh> Hope that is usefull to you.
04:32 < TheBeast> kind of
04:32 < TheBeast> brb
04:33 < ojh> brb
04:49 < ojh> Back.
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06:08 * TheBeast is kinda back
07:12 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEECD5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
07:12 < morfoh> moin moin
07:59 -!- TheBeast [n=fat@unaffiliated/thebeast] has quit ["CHIX DIG OPENBSD (http://www.openbsd.org/)"]
07:59 < morfoh> so far so good ;) -> 2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-mnemosyne:
07:59 < morfoh> 589 builds total, 233 completed fine, 0 with errors.
08:21 < rxr> re
08:21 < morfoh> moin rxr ;)
08:30 < rxr> moin morfoh
08:31 < morfoh> rxr: pehaps we can use this for converting the handbook -> http://www.gruniversal.de/main/index.php?m1=proj&m2=latex2db
08:33 * morfoh off to the TU ... bbl
08:34 < mnemoc> good luck morfoh
08:34 < mnemoc> :)
08:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! ... you didn't sleept ? :)
08:35 < mnemoc> nope :(
08:35 < mnemoc> go!
08:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: poor guy ... what are you doing ? :)
08:35 < rxr> moin mnemoc !
08:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: aye aye Sir ... bbl :)
08:35 < mnemoc> coding and fighting 2.2
08:36 < mnemoc> cu morfoh
08:36 < mnemoc> moin rxr
08:36 < rxr> mnemoc: coding what? t2 ?
08:36 < mnemoc> clipper :)
08:36 < rxr> .oO ?
08:36 < rxr> in the office
08:36 < rxr> ?
08:36 < mnemoc> at home
08:36 < rxr> huh
08:36 < rxr> so urgent ?
08:37 < mnemoc> yes, a report for the tax office
08:37 < mnemoc> for.. today :p
08:37 < mnemoc> but i'll go to sleep a bit now
08:38 < rxr> I hope you awake ...
08:38 < rxr> the company has to do a report to the tax office tody?
08:38 < rxr> +a
08:38 < mnemoc> yes
08:38 < mnemoc> based on some data which is not on the 'new system'
08:39 < mnemoc> so i have to process month-ly tarballs
08:39 < mnemoc> with dbf and csv files inside
08:43 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Cleanup -build
08:43 < mnemoc> removing build/azazel-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-azazel ...
08:43 < mnemoc> and try again...
08:46 < mnemoc> time to go to sleep a couple of hours :) cu ,-)
08:51 < rxr> cu
08:51 < rxr> hope you awake in time
08:51 < rxr> these days my body does not like night shifts too much and does nto really awake from a normal alarm clock ...
08:51 < rxr> only when susan is pulling me out of the bad heftily ...
09:31 < rxr> so - me to office then - cu
09:43 < owl> moin
09:49 < valentin> moin
09:49 < owl> hi valentin
09:49 < valentin> moin owl
09:59 < karasz> moin all
10:10 -!- sherniux [n=ss@81-7-79-120.ip.takas.lt] has joined #t2
10:11 < sherniux> Baldzius esi?
10:27 -!- sherniux [n=ss@81-7-79-120.ip.takas.lt] has quit []
10:41 < karasz> err....., anyone with access to gsmp here?
10:41 < karasz> maybe rxr around?
10:48 < Baldzius> moin all
10:48 < Baldzius> moin karasz
10:48 < karasz> hello Baldzius
10:48 < Baldzius> sherniux junkis n.akmene
11:12 < morfoh> rehi
11:14 < morfoh> moin owl, valentin, nasty gun boy and of course tovorish karasz :)
11:21 < Baldzius> hi morfoh :)
11:21 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2
11:24 < morfoh> wb mipe
11:26 < rxr> re
11:26 < morfoh> wb rxr ... and did you found your needed piece of hardware ? ;)
11:28 < rxr> yep
11:29 < rxr> and did some internet surfing @Conrad whether to buy the Cinergy SX or T2
11:29 < rxr> but the SX ist still not supported by open source
11:29 < rxr> and thus I got the classic T2 box ...
11:29 < morfoh> hehe :)
11:31 < karasz> kommrad : good morning :)
11:32 < karasz> re
11:32 < karasz> rxr hello
11:33 < rxr> moin karasz
11:34 < karasz> rxr filepipe.c.bz2 is missin from gsmp
11:34 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFA672.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2
11:34 * rxr collecting a cup of fresh coffee from the kitchen and then I take a look
11:41 < CIA-18> rene * r15392 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/putenv.patch: * fixed my mail address in the dietlibc/putenv.patch
11:47 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF995F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
11:52 < karasz> heh, i am starttin a fresh HEAD desktop build ;)
11:58 < rxr> 2.1 or trunk ?
11:58 < rxr> x86-64 I guess ?
11:58 < karasz> trunk head
11:58 < karasz> x86-64 opt em64t
11:58 < morfoh> rxr: do we've some special term for the "adaptive" (perhaps the wrong word) patch mechanism within t2 ?
12:00 < rxr> morfoh: what adaptive mechanism do you reffer to ?
12:02 < rxr> karasz: I'm right now filling the gap of the missing files on the master mirror with mnemocs reference on the other side of the world
12:02 < rxr> when the files are there over the slow connection gsmp will be complete again
12:03 < karasz> i already got what i needed, but i thought that it would be nice to know...
12:11 < rxr> karasz: yes, sure - of course thanks to notify there are some more files still missing
12:31 < karasz> so build started, let's see how it will go ....
13:23 < morfoh> 2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-mnemosyne:
13:23 < morfoh> 589 builds total, 507 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:23 < morfoh> :)
13:23 < valentin> netrunner votes to remove submaster .oO
13:24 < valentin> and rxr: please don't reply to their ml :)
13:24 < rxr> didn't netrunner try to convince /me / /us here that their development style is so superious ?
13:24 < rxr> superiour ...
13:24 < rxr> valentin: btw. I hack your preview code a bit since I integrate real dithering now ...
13:24 < valentin> well, i think he saw the immense T2 progress ...
13:24 < morfoh> rxr: I meant the automatic patching or extension of a package by another package
13:24 < rxr> too bad your auto-select code is not yet really there - will it appear today ?
13:25 < valentin> rxr: leave that piece of code alone for now pls. I'll continue later in the evening, but i have to continue other work now
13:25 < rxr> I lave the select code
13:25 < rxr> but I integrate dithering now
13:26 < valentin> rxr: of course the code gets factored out of the preview image data later
13:31 < morfoh> rxr: you can be really charming :) ... already seen your recent mail to dietlibc ML ... :)
13:32 < rxr> morfoh: and ?
13:32 < rxr> anything wrong with it?
13:32 < morfoh> rxr: no! :)
13:33 < morfoh> rxr: oh! there is sth. wrong ... your mail address
13:33 < rxr> in one patch?
13:33 < rxr> yes - already fixed in SVN
13:34 < rxr> noticed while clicking on send ...
13:34 < morfoh> rxr: ic :)
13:36 < rxr> hm - for some reason my Floyed Steinberg dither does work stand alone but not in the driver
13:36 < rxr> sigh
13:36 < rxr> returns all black?!?
13:41 < rxr> hm
13:41 < rxr> the riemersma ditherizer works ...
13:41 < rxr> ouhm
13:41 < rxr> must be some bigendian whatsoever bug in my floyd steinberg implementaiton
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13:44 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-dither.tiff
13:44 < rxr> ^- valentin this is why I want a dither preview, it does not look like gray by any means
13:45 < rxr> ah - ic what could be wrong with FloydSteinberg(...);
13:46 < rxr> number of shades I passed was invalid ...
13:46 < rxr> 1 instead of 2 ...
13:46 < rxr> ah - yes
13:46 < rxr> works too ,-)
13:46 < valentin> rxr: sorry, i do not see the effect of the dithering in that bitmap. could you give another example to compare ?
13:48 < rxr> sure
13:48 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-color.tiff
13:49 < rxr> ^- the color preview
13:49 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-gray.tiff
13:49 < rxr> ^- the gray preview
13:49 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-dither-fs.tiff
13:49 < rxr> ^- dither like the first, but classic Floyed Steinberg instead of Riemersma along a Hilbert curve ...
13:50 < valentin> btw: why can't konqueror display tiff ?
13:50 < rxr> maybe because they are properitary Apple crap TIFFs ...
13:50 < rxr> that only few open source programs display IIRC
13:50 < rxr> what can display those ?
13:51 < valentin> gimp
13:51 < valentin> and display iirc
13:51 < rxr> ic
13:51 < rxr> display does not show all
13:51 < rxr> and the latest versions invert certain bw tiffs ...
13:51 < rxr> anyway - dithering is obvious now ?
13:51 < valentin> mom - downloading..
13:52 < rxr> I commit with floyed-steinberg enabled
13:52 < valentin> display can display tiff
13:52 < rxr> yes, but not all
13:53 < rxr> tiff is a ugly tag list that can contain whatever junk
13:53 < rxr> even jpeg ...
13:53 < rxr> and multiple pages
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13:53 < rxr> no Open Source program aside Gimp can display those multi page TIFFs IIRC
13:53 < rxr> and Gimp can only display them inefficently converting all b/w data to rgb or so ..
13:54 < rxr> opening a few kB 30p TIFF renders my 512MB boxes unusable while Gimp tries to eat all the memory ...
13:54 < rxr> anyway ... - dithering is fine ?
13:54 < valentin> still do not see the effect...
13:54 < rxr> ?
13:54 < rxr> you do not see the dithering in the dithering shoots ?
13:54 < rxr> you see the difference from gray and color ?
13:55 < valentin> the pictures do not look dithered at all to me
13:55 < valentin> both have checkerboard aliases
13:56 < valentin> but maybe that is only because i have no comparison to without dithering
13:56 < rxr> to lineart ?
13:56 < rxr> the color and gray are of course not dithered btw ...
13:57 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/av-lineart.tiff
13:58 < valentin> so lineart+dither is the same as rastered ?
13:58 < rxr> hm`?
13:59 < rxr> we both talk about that I implemented the preview mode for the Dither (de: Gerastert) mode in the Mac driver ?
13:59 < rxr> that you formerly just showed as ordinary 8bit gray ?
13:59 < valentin> ah - dither == gerastert
13:59 < valentin> i thought about antialiasing by blur, but that was obviously wrong
13:59 < valentin> sorry for that :)
13:59 < rxr> np
13:59 < rxr> I just wanted to have this preview mode correct
14:00 < valentin> yep, now it realy looks like gerastert
14:00 < rxr> so - I release yet a new driver and then I test with the 4th Dimension database and some QPix TWAIN plugin to get the driver UI hidden in that combination
14:04 < rxr> heh - new driver got yet 5kB bigger
14:04 < rxr> slowly the driver looks reasonable ...
14:05 < rxr> still fits on a good old 360kB floppy, but not that far away from the HP driver that is 150MB in size ...
14:05 < rxr> bigger than the origial ZIPs floppies ... !!! .-(
14:05 < valentin> lol
14:05 < rxr> valentin: maybe we should also distribute some 1xxMB videos with the driver ...
14:05 < rxr> maybe some T2 commercials ,-)
14:06 < valentin> we could pack a livecd image on the drivers dvd :)
14:06 < rxr> yeah - a minimal PPC ,-)
14:07 < rxr> so - now let's see how long it will take to make the driver work together with 4D and Qpix and hide it's UI then as requested ,-)
14:10 < rxr> heh - the cingergy t2 just works as usual when plugged into a t2 box ...
14:10 < rxr> our current plug'n play setup is really cool ,-)
14:18 < karasz> huh. oh
14:18 < karasz> Building at76c503a within linux26 (using postlinux.conf)...........
14:18 < karasz> -> Building lazyfs within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
14:19 < karasz> and it works...
14:19 < karasz> linux26 builds fawlessly
14:19 < karasz> :)
14:25 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15393 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/ (erlang-otp.conf erlang-otp.desc): * updated erlang-otp (R10B-8 -> R10B-9)
14:26 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15394 /trunk/package/graphic/wings3d/ (wings3d.conf wings3d.desc): * updated wings3d (0.98.29b -> 0.98.32a)
14:26 < valentin> karasz: even at76c503a ?
14:26 < karasz> yes
14:26 < rxr> hm - I fear then there is a but in my last night change
14:27 < karasz> no error what so ever on stage [1]
14:27 * valentin wondering why that outdated version builds
14:27 < karasz> valentin: ?
14:27 < valentin> the at76c503a module
14:28 < karasz> outdated?
14:28 < karasz> hmm, i svn up some hours ago
14:28 < karasz> i guess i am r15391 or smome...
14:29 < valentin> grep '^\[D\]' package/network/at76c503a.desc
14:30 < valentin> grep '^\[D\]' package/network/at76c503a/*.desc
14:30 < valentin> even
14:30 < karasz> grep '^\[D\]' package/network/at76c503a/at76c503a.desc
14:30 < karasz> [D] X at76c503a-2005-05-21.tar.bz2 cvs://:pserver:anonymous@cvs.at76c503a.berlios.de:/cvsroot/at76c503a at76c503a -D 2005-05-21
14:30 < karasz> [D] 2698592826 atmel-firmware-1.3.tar.gz http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/atmel/
14:30 < valentin> that is what i mean, the old 2005-05-21 version would not build for current kernels iirc...
14:31 < rxr> valentin: I changed the error handling of linux* last night
14:31 < rxr> guess it ihas some typo
14:32 < rxr> so /me playing with the Terratec T2 while waiting of feedback regarding 4D stuff from the client ,-)
14:32 < valentin> karasz: can you take a look if you have a at76c503*.ko within your module dir ?
14:32 < karasz> moment
14:33 < karasz> mope, just the dir...
14:33 < karasz> ../kernel/drivers/net/wireless/at76c503
14:33 < karasz> which is empty.
14:39 < rxr> heh
14:40 < rxr> indeed the new BIOS of my subnotebook is reporting battery nearz zero percent as overtemperature 100 degree ++ even
14:40 < rxr> and the linux kernel emergency shutdowns then ...
14:40 < rxr> interesting ...
14:40 * rxr forgot again the plug in the power-cord ...
14:40 < rxr> for some reason this happens way more often than it did with the iBook in the past ...
14:56 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/69438
14:56 < rxr> ^- now that is grave
14:56 < karasz> :(
14:57 < rxr> rfid implanced into all employees ...
14:57 < karasz> linux24 fails on stage [1]
14:57 < karasz> i do not need lin24
14:58 < valentin> rxr: wow...
14:58 < mnemoc> i want to drop linux24 at 2.2 :)
14:58 < karasz> anybody want to take a look, or i will O linux24 and move on....
14:58 < karasz> hello mnemoc
14:58 < karasz> so that is not interestin'...
14:58 * karasz O linux24 and moves on.....
14:58 < rxr> karasz: linux24 will be soon rm -rf'ed from trunk
14:59 < karasz> ok
14:59 < mnemoc> hi karasz, rxr :)
15:00 < rxr> moin mnemoc
15:00 < valentin> moin mnemoc
15:00 < mnemoc> moin valentin
15:03 < mnemoc> [rock-devel] removal of submaster
15:03 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - valentin already pasted ...
15:04 < mnemoc> ^_^
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15:05 < rxr> My reason for not switching was mainly the
15:05 < rxr> uncomfortable explosive ego of the fork's leader.
15:05 < rxr> what a joke
15:05 < rxr> of course it is the opposite which made us fork t2
15:05 < rxr> not to mention that actually netrunns girlfriend said it is a pitty that I left where I was one of the only nice people their ...
15:06 < mnemoc> *g*
15:06 < valentin> rxr: you should /nick TNT :)
15:07 < rxr> C4 ,-)
15:08 < mnemoc> blindcoder's mail remind me some of my own mails at 2004
15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: hope you slept well and good that you awake ,-)
15:09 < rxr> in time
15:09 < mnemoc> i slept 3h... and slept good :)
15:09 < mnemoc> s/and/but/
15:10 < valentin> i find it fascinating that they took two years to notice how bloody submaster is...
15:10 < valentin> ... that it took them ...
15:12 < mnemoc> "But this seems to be your primary concern if I understood you correctly at 22C3.
15:12 < mnemoc> That "wild submission of code to subversion" would break the now really usable
15:12 < mnemoc> trunk."
15:13 < mnemoc> i guess we demostrated that is bullsh*t
15:15 < valentin> imo in theory it makes no difference wether you have a submaster queue full of broken patches or a broken trunk. in practice however, with sm it takes 4 weeks++ until someone notices.
15:15 < valentin> whereas broken trunk is fixed within 24h
15:15 < rxr> mnemoc: or we just code a bit saner compared to chaotic hacking
15:16 < mnemoc> :)
15:32 < rxr> heh - the Terratec Cnergy T2 USB 2 DVB-T adapter does work far better with a low signal in the air - and also does switch channels way faster - compared to my former PCI card (that does not fit in my dual-core Powermac due to missing PCI, only PCIE ...
15:33 < rxr> Linux 2.6.15.4
15:34 < rxr> only MMplayer cuase video flicker with the Radeon 200M in my sub-notebook ...
15:34 < rxr> xine works flawlessly however
15:35 < CIA-18> rene * r15395 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (7.5 -> 7.6)
15:38 < CIA-18> rene * r15396 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.15.3 -> 2.6.15.4)
15:43 < karasz> cu guys later
15:43 < mnemoc> cu karasz
15:44 < rxr> damn
15:44 < mnemoc> rxr: any idea why EXTRAVERSION was catch as .2.3 previously?
15:44 < rxr> once booted window and it tinkered with my hardware clock again
15:44 < rxr> hm ?
15:44 < rxr> - Built-in composite manager
15:44 < rxr> - Built-in composite manager
15:45 < rxr> E16 version 0.16.8
15:45 < mnemoc> build/azazel-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-azazel/boot/initrd-2.6.15.2.3-dist.img
15:45 < rxr> did not saw that yet
15:51 < rxr> valentin: btw. we now include exact-image in the mac driver - please add all future image processing and analyzing code into that ...
15:51 < rxr> as dual GPL with optional commercial license and copyright to ExactCode as usual ...
16:17 < rxr> reiser4 flush intervalls are quite long
16:17 * rxr building a kernel on the partition
16:17 < mnemoc> oh, looking at frapper i noticed they are adding streets to italy
16:17 < rxr> and everytime this doomed vi does flush or so a file it hangs for quite some seconds till reiser4 flushed it all or so ...
16:17 < mnemoc> rxr: worse than reiser3 on that usecase?
16:17 < rxr> a bit
16:17 < rxr> but reiser4 is way faster for the normal tasks ...
16:18 < rxr> maybe vi is also misusing something
16:18 < rxr> I do not have this behaviour with something else ...
16:18 < rxr> tiff colormaps go on my nerves ...
16:18 < rxr> can't they just work ...
16:18 * rxr reading more libtiff code ...
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16:30 < misl> hi folks
16:31 < rxr> hi misl
16:34 < rxr> quite nice to have the new DVB-T adapter in USB form to plug into whatever box i'm right now ...
16:34 < rxr> and to carry to susan ...
16:54 < morfoh> hi ol'rocket ;)
16:55 < mnemoc> hi misl
16:55 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
16:55 < morfoh> "good morning" mnemoc :p
16:55 < mnemoc> morfoh: how was the meeting?
16:55 < misl> hi rxr, mnemoc, morfoh :)
16:55 * misl having dinner :)
16:55 < mnemoc> morfoh: nah... i'm at office since now()-5
16:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: it was good, but the other people which are interested in the job semmed to be a bit pissed
16:56 < morfoh> seemed
16:57 < mnemoc> morfoh: were your competitors also there?
16:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep
16:58 < mnemoc> anyone with real chances?
16:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: N. and me are "unofficially" choosen yet ... if I would decide, just 1 of them was "fitting" quite well
17:00 < mnemoc> how many?
17:02 < morfoh> 3 other till now ...
17:02 < mnemoc> when do they choose?
17:03 < morfoh> begining of march
17:05 < mnemoc> ic
17:05 < morfoh> mnemoc how is report "thingy" going ?
17:06 < mnemoc> delivered, now i have another 'thingy' for monday... and i have to reinstall the main server this sunday
17:07 < morfoh> oh! ... they want to "suck" out as most as possible before you're leaving
17:08 < mnemoc> yep
17:08 < morfoh> will you provide support for them after ?
17:09 < mnemoc> for servers and azazel desktops, probably :)
17:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: make a contract before :p
17:11 < mnemoc> :)
17:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: could someone from your lug provide local support for the worst case ?
17:12 < mnemoc> lug died a few weeks after founding it
17:13 < morfoh> oh! why ?
17:13 < mnemoc> lack of commitment
17:13 < morfoh> hmmm ... :/
17:14 < morfoh> then you should teach your daughters quickly ... afaik they are used to use linux desktops at least :)
17:14 < morfoh> and momie gets the money :p
17:14 < mnemoc> :)
17:15 < morfoh> btw, in that case I'll not contact AI :)
17:16 * morfoh back on t2 plone polishing work
17:16 < LMJ> hello guys
17:17 < LMJ> got a question for a new package
17:18 < LMJ> this package will be done in 3 steps, (./configure && make && make install in the default uncompress dir) then cd subdir1/ the -> "./configure && make && make install" and cd ../subdir2 and "./configure && make && make install" then, it's done
17:18 < morfoh> bonsoir monsieur serwou .. ca va bien ? :)
17:19 < LMJ> how i can setup a .conf to make the full compilation ?
17:19 < LMJ> bonsoir morfoh, ca roule ? ;)
17:20 < morfoh> LMJ: what does that mean ? :)
17:20 < LMJ> "good evening morfoxh, how are you doing ?" ;)
17:21 < morfoh> LMJ: ah ok ... I'm fine! but a bit sleepy :)
17:21 < LMJ> ok ;)
17:21 < LMJ> any idea to make my .conf ?
17:21 < morfoh> will custextract help ? ....
17:22 < mnemoc> ??
17:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... dunno
17:22 < rxr> nah
17:22 < morfoh> wasn't there sth. like that
17:23 < LMJ> should a make again my question for something more clear ?
17:23 < mnemoc> LMJ: i would cheat, adding a duplicated [D] :p
17:23 < rxr> the quick way would be hook_add postmake 5 "cd ... ; configure ; make .."
17:23 < mnemoc> LMJ: using [SRC] .
17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: he has only one tarball I htink
17:23 < LMJ> yes rxr, only one tarball
17:23 < rxr> LMJ: do you have one or multple tarballs ?
17:23 < mnemoc> rxr: and what's the problem of adding it twice?
17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: .oO
17:23 < rxr> ok - LMJ list your tarball 3 times and use [SRC] .
17:24 < LMJ> rxr : hook_add postmake 5 "cd ... ; configure ; make .." <--- do you know a package when i can find that to understand how it works ?
17:24 < rxr> that is also a bit imperfect but will work automatically
17:24 < mnemoc> and switch 'srcdir'
17:24 < LMJ> ok
17:24 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
17:24 < rxr> that is what I was about to write ...
17:24 < LMJ> - reset -
17:24 < mnemoc> :)
17:24 < LMJ> where i could find an exemple in the tree ?
17:24 < mnemoc> nope
17:25 < mnemoc> at .conf set a counter, and on prepatch increse the counter and set srcdir accordint to that counter
17:25 * LMJ is lost in space :-d
17:26 < mnemoc> [SRC] . will call build_this_package once for each [D]
17:26 < LMJ> is there a package who needed a conf similar to mine where i can take inspiration ?
17:26 < LMJ> ok
17:26 < mnemoc> clone [D] to have it 3 times, so you get build_this_package called 3 times
17:27 < LMJ> ok
17:27 < LMJ> then
17:27 < LMJ> how i tell him to compile the first time in the dir, then subdir1 and subdir2 ?
17:28 < mnemoc> that's where i would use a counter
17:28 < mnemoc> initializing the counter right on .conf
17:29 < LMJ> - pause -
17:29 < LMJ> :-d
17:29 < mnemoc> adding a hook at preconf (?) (to not mess with patching)
17:29 * mnemoc paused
17:30 * LMJ remove batteries from mnemoc microphone ;)
17:30 < mnemoc> :(
17:31 < LMJ> hehe
17:31 < LMJ> just to force the pause
17:33 < LMJ> so
17:33 < LMJ> 3 [D] to the same url
17:34 * LMJ press play button on mnemoc back
17:34 < mnemoc> [SRC] . before [D]s
17:34 < mnemoc> to make it loop over all [D]s
17:34 < LMJ> [SRC] . <-- only that ?
17:34 < mnemoc> . is the pattern to match
17:35 < mnemoc> sed pattern
17:35 < LMJ> hum
17:35 < LMJ> well, i trust you ;)
17:35 < mnemoc> bad idea
17:36 < LMJ> SRC then 3 [D]
17:36 < LMJ> done
17:36 < LMJ> [SRC] .
17:36 < mnemoc> if french wouldn't trust chilean, they would keep been the greatest wine producers :)
17:37 < LMJ> LMAO
17:37 < LMJ> dude, we don't like the vinegar :-D
17:38 < mnemoc> frenchies came to chile to recover the merlot after WWII ,-)
17:38 < LMJ> i never checked chilian wines
17:39 < LMJ> anyway
17:39 < mnemoc> :)
17:39 < LMJ> let's make a .conf
17:39 < mnemoc> as you have to distinguish between your three builds i would make a counter
17:39 < LMJ> or just tell me somewhere i can find a similar .conf to get inspiration
17:40 < mnemoc> LMJ: this is completly new
17:40 < LMJ> h ok
17:40 < LMJ> it will work on 2.1 stable ?
17:40 < mnemoc> yes
17:40 < rxr> yes
17:40 < mnemoc> if it works
17:40 < rxr> LMJ: this SRC is there since ages
17:40 < LMJ> ok
17:40 < LMJ> so ok
17:40 < mnemoc> i fear double untar-ing
17:40 < rxr> so far noone had to rebuild 3 dirs in the same tarball ...
17:40 < LMJ> i'm going to test on my clean t2 :-/
17:41 < mnemoc> but reseting autoextract to after after first loop would solve this
17:41 < LMJ> i have to say the package i'm doing is useless, just for fun :-/
17:41 < mnemoc> not useless, it's a proof of concept
17:42 < LMJ> there you go
17:42 < LMJ> "i'm testing stuff"
17:42 < rxr> mnemoc: nah - no other tinkering
17:42 < rxr> he is cd'ing into subdirs
17:42 < rxr> that should work
17:42 < LMJ> so, what's the way to go gurus?
17:42 < mnemoc> rxr: but each loop with untar the same file
17:42 < rxr> mnemoc: who cares ,-)
17:42 < mnemoc> :p
17:42 < rxr> LMJ: follow master mnemoc advices ,-)
17:42 < mnemoc> LMJ: set a counter
17:43 < mnemoc> o_O
17:43 < LMJ> a counter ?
17:43 < mnemoc> evil_lmj_counter=0
17:43 < LMJ> for loop ?
17:43 < LMJ> ok
17:43 < mnemoc> nope, to be used inside the hook
17:43 < mnemoc> and do the right `cd`
17:44 < LMJ> ¿ mnemoc ?
17:44 < LMJ> you have to be sloooooow with me, remenber, i'm french
17:44 < LMJ> and n00b :-p
17:44 < mnemoc> :)
17:45 < mnemoc> hook_add preconf 1 'evil_subdir_switcher'
17:45 < LMJ> i don't know the hook thing neither
17:45 < LMJ> ok
17:46 < mnemoc> OT: LMJ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmenere
17:46 < mnemoc> that will call evil_subdir_switcher function before doing ./configure on each loop
17:46 < mnemoc> and you define the function
17:46 < mnemoc> evil_subdir_switcher() {
17:47 < mnemoc> case "$evil_lmj_counter" in
17:47 < mnemoc> 0) # first loop, do nothing
17:47 < mnemoc> true ;;
17:47 < mnemoc> 1) # second loop, subdir 1
17:47 < mnemoc> cd subdir1 ;;
17:47 < mnemoc> 2) # third loop, subdir 2
17:47 < mnemoc> cd subdir2 ;;
17:47 < mnemoc> esac
17:48 < mnemoc> (( evil_lmj_counter ++ ))
17:48 < mnemoc> }
17:48 < mnemoc> or more portably, evil_lmj_counter=1 at 0)
17:48 < mnemoc> evil_lmj_counter=2 at 1)
17:48 < mnemoc> and evil_lmj_counter=3 at 2)
17:48 * LMJ put mnemoc in pause again
17:50 < LMJ> evil_lmj_counter=1 at 0) <--- should i change something ?
17:51 < LMJ> instead of "true" i put "evil_lmj_counter=1" ?
17:51 * LMJ press play button ;)
17:51 < mnemoc> case "$evil_lmj_counter" in
17:51 < mnemoc> 0) evil_lmj_counter=1 ;;
17:51 < LMJ> ok
17:51 < LMJ> got it
17:51 < mnemoc> 1) evil_lmj_counter=2
17:51 < mnemoc> cd subdir1 ;;
17:52 < LMJ> yep
17:52 < LMJ> ok
17:52 < LMJ> done
17:53 < LMJ> should be enough ?
17:53 < mnemoc> i hope
17:54 < LMJ> let's go
17:56 < LMJ> LMAO
17:56 < mnemoc> ?
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17:58 < LMJ> Carmenere makes red wine ?
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17:58 < mnemoc> LMJ: it's like merlot
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18:00 < LMJ> mnemoc it looks like it worked
18:00 < mnemoc> LMJ: i took carmenere because wikipedia didn't mention Cabernet Sauvignon and merlot got extint from Bordeaux's valey :)
18:00 < LMJ> I don't like to much Bordeau read wine
18:00 < mnemoc> hehe
18:00 < LMJ> they are too "heavy" in mouth for me
18:01 < LMJ> really hard to find a good taste for my young mouth :-)
18:01 < mnemoc> :)
18:01 < mnemoc> beeer
18:01 < LMJ> not at all
18:01 < LMJ> i dislike beer too ;)
18:01 < mnemoc> *g*
18:09 < karasz> stage [5] :D
18:10 < mnemoc> go karasz go
18:10 < karasz> :) thx mnemoc
18:10 < karasz> btw re all
18:10 < karasz> and for who i didn't greet allready, moin :)
18:10 < mnemoc> LMJ: did the experiment work?
18:11 < LMJ> i wondering if it compiled the main dir
18:11 < mnemoc> see the logs
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18:12 < karasz> huh, hah, wines???
18:12 < mnemoc> karasz: not you, LMJ
18:13 < karasz> :(
18:13 < karasz> me not?
18:13 < mnemoc> :)
18:15 < karasz> although I must confess, my interest in wines is purely scientific....
18:17 < karasz> hmmm, mnemoc do you know by any chanse what happened with the pgAdmin3 package?
18:17 < mnemoc> karasz: no idea, ask Baldzius :)
18:17 < karasz> Baldzius: ?
18:17 < karasz> why him?
18:17 < mnemoc> he is doing all the nasty things at trunk
18:18 < karasz> nah, pgAdmin3 was never added officialy...
18:18 < LMJ> it happens sometimes karasz, like xml tools ;)
18:18 < mnemoc> xml tools?
18:18 < karasz> well, the important thing was made anyway
18:19 < mnemoc> if something wasn't added, please send them again
18:19 < LMJ> sgml/docbook/other stuff i forgot ;)
18:19 < karasz> in the sense that i learned that bit by addin it.
18:19 -!- You're now known as rxr
18:23 < karasz> but the thing that annoyes me the most is that i have no response for the 3rd mail i sent to pgadmin team, about their ./configure
18:24 < karasz> a simple _do not bug us anymore_ would have done it...
18:24 < mnemoc> get used to it
18:25 < karasz> but i was _very_ polite :(
18:26 < karasz> dear Sirs, .... your great product has a little flaw... Yours, Sincerly stuff
18:38 * LMJ should forget to try some "proofs of crap concepts"
18:43 < mnemoc> LMJ: ?
18:44 < LMJ> i'm loosing my time with this crap
18:44 < LMJ> sorry to make loosing your
18:44 < rxr> anyone here with a C / C++ users journal account here ?
18:44 < mnemoc> if you give some feedback i can help you
18:44 < rxr> I would need one article ...
18:44 < mnemoc> rxr: ACM ?
18:48 < mnemoc> rxr: give me some hints to search for it
18:49 < mnemoc> top - 15:50:49 up 59 days, 3:44, 4 users, load average: 4.43, 4.34, 4.43
18:53 < _Ragnar_> uh >.< another kernel update
18:53 * mnemoc has to deactivate his svn up by cron to build on trunk
18:54 < rxr> mnemoc: has ACM C/C++ users jounal article s?
18:54 < rxr> http://www.cuj.com/documents/s=8058/cuj9812riemersm/riemersm.htm
18:54 < rxr> ^- I'd like to have the whole of that one ...
18:55 < rxr> so - /we dinner - cu
18:55 < karasz> cu rxr
18:56 < mnemoc> rxr: no luck
18:57 < mnemoc> rxr: but 46 matches for 'Dithering' :)
18:58 < mnemoc> rxr: far more on lowercase
19:06 < rxr> I#m intrested in particularly this algorithm
19:07 < mnemoc> they include many journals, but not the one you want :\
19:07 < rxr> mnemoc: thanks for trying it out ,-)
19:07 * rxr back to dinner
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19:37 < rxr> re
19:39 < morfoh> re
19:43 < mnemoc> wb rxr, morfoh
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19:53 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :)
19:54 < mnemoc> wb sepp_
19:55 < karasz> rxr, kommrad, sepp
19:55 < morfoh> karasz: tovorish :)
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20:03 < sepp_> hello :)
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20:06 < morfoh> wb sepp :)
20:06 < mnemoc> morfoh: 10px x 10px ?
20:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok
20:11 < morfoh> yeah --> 2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-mnemosyne:
20:11 < morfoh> 589 builds total, 589 completed fine, 0 with errors.
20:11 < morfoh> :)
20:11 < mnemoc> good luck during installation
20:12 < morfoh> I assume bad things will happen ... if you wish me good luck that way
20:13 < mnemoc> i had lot of suffering using lvm and lilo on that yesterday
20:13 < sepp> rxr: http://www.tcnj.edu/~hernande/cujv5/html/16.12/riemersm/riemersm.htm ;-)
20:14 < morfoh> I don't use any of them :p
20:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: so you can suffer alone :p
20:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll not tell the others why I'm pissed now ... but guess you know. :p
20:16 < sepp> hi morfoh :)
20:16 < mnemoc> sepp: google? :)
20:17 < sepp> yup
20:21 < rxr> sepp: thanks
20:21 < rxr> but I have googled myself and pasted code together
20:22 < rxr> I want to read the original article ,-)
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20:29 < Baldzius> RobertaZ: che tu?
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21:00 < morfoh> Baldzius: gun boy ... nasty one ... is that english ? :)
21:01 < seilebost> Hi
21:01 < seilebost> I have many problem to compile T2 for dreamcast
21:01 < Baldzius> hi morfoh, seilebost
21:02 < rxr> seilebost: dreamcast support is not yet finished
21:02 < rxr> seilebost: valentin is the person to talk about the dreamcast bits ,-)
21:02 < rxr> so - /me falling asleep
21:02 < seilebost> Oh yes
21:02 < rxr> n8 all - cu then
21:02 < seilebost> ok
21:03 < morfoh> gn8 rxr ... sleep well
21:03 < seilebost> But it seems that there is a problem with Building base/linux-header
21:03 < seilebost> the script sends me this message :
21:04 < seilebost> ===[apply_patchfiles:672 (last $?=0)> patch -bfp1 -z .orig
21:04 < seilebost> fl_wrapper.so: write outside basedir (/home/T2/t2.stable
21:05 < seilebost> hi valentin ?
21:05 < Baldzius> morfoh, that was lithuanian -> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lithuania :)
21:07 < mnemoc> oh, a dissident
21:07 < morfoh> Baldzius: what is lithuania ? :p
21:07 < mnemoc> a part of russia
21:07 < morfoh> Baldzius: ah ... the land with children soldiers ?
21:07 < sepp> ohh i like the taxi shown there
21:07 < morfoh> (me hides
21:07 < Baldzius> :)))))
21:08 < mnemoc> :p
21:08 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania
21:08 < seilebost> bye
21:08 < Baldzius> Lithuania President Palace is better sepp :)
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21:08 < morfoh> I like this --> Blanking or vandalising this page can be dangerous. <-- this shos the real behavior of them :)
21:09 < morfoh> nasty boy is vandalising the trunk all the time :)
21:09 < Baldzius> l0l
21:09 < morfoh> :D
21:21 < karasz> huh, hah, 1 hour for gcc???
21:21 < mnemoc> Baldzius: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/lh.html <--- why do you have a 'russia' between you and poland?
21:21 < karasz> is that normal?
21:21 < mnemoc> karasz: see the log, there is movement?
21:22 < karasz> now it is
21:22 < karasz> but buildin gcc took 1 hour.
21:23 < mnemoc> get better hardware :)
21:23 < karasz> :(
21:24 < karasz> i cannot aford better...
21:24 < Baldzius> mnemoc: it was Prusia before WWII, belonged to Germany iirc, then russians captured :)
21:24 < Baldzius> WWI even, dunno now ...
21:24 < Baldzius> this land is really problematic
21:25 < sepp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalingrad
21:25 < mnemoc> Baldzius: but it's a "colony" or an "island" part of the big one?
21:25 < mnemoc> sepp: thanks :)
21:25 < morfoh> Baldzius: so we're prussian brothers :p
21:26 < Baldzius> yeah, Herkus Mantas :)
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21:26 < morfoh> Baldzius: ^ look another prussian brother joined :)
21:27 < sepp> if germany and russia really messes up something Kalingrad is the result
21:27 < Baldzius> left :(
21:27 < morfoh> yeah ... :(
21:27 < morfoh> already seen ...
21:27 < Baldzius> i thought he's my godson
21:28 < morfoh> oh! ... godson?
21:28 < Baldzius> yep, i am godfather for 16y
21:28 < Baldzius> became 13y old
21:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: the baptism thing i forgot the word some minutes ago :p
21:30 < morfoh> hehe :)
21:30 < Baldzius> or how it's called, dunno :)
21:30 < mnemoc> Baldzius: yes, you are right
21:33 < morfoh> oh! my h*ly godfathers :)
21:38 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD8BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
21:38 < nzg> moin
21:38 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
21:40 < morfoh> hi nzg
21:40 < karasz> moin nzg
22:07 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15397 /trunk/package/graphic/greycstoration/ (. greycstoration.cache greycstoration.desc): * added greycstoration (0.2) - GREYCstoration Gimp plugin
22:10 < karasz> hmmm i am greppin' 5-bdb.log
22:10 < karasz> and i see a lot of : `gcc: -lpthread: linker input file unused because linking not done`
22:10 < karasz> should I care?
22:21 < karasz> nah, i don't
22:22 < karasz> cu guys latter this day....:)
22:22 < Baldzius> :)
22:23 < Baldzius> What I can say for sure, is that Thunar, libexo and Terminal won't be ready for release in February.
22:24 < Baldzius> mnemoc: ----^ from one of xfce developer's blog
22:24 < Baldzius> i guess i need to revert thunar & libexo, what u think?
22:24 < sepp> the xfce file manager?
22:25 < Baldzius> thunar, yes i think
22:25 < Baldzius> thing is i fixed thunar but now terminal fails :)
22:25 < Baldzius> what a crap ...
22:26 < mnemoc> Baldzius: sadly yes, Terminal is an important component, and thunar 'just' the future alternative to xffm
22:27 < sepp> i tested it once but i do not like xfce or "modern" file managers
22:27 < Baldzius> mnemoc: ack
22:29 < mnemoc> sepp: ?
22:31 < sepp> i prefer the norton commander idea
22:31 < sepp> mc for linux
22:32 < mnemoc> xffm is 'similar' to that
22:32 < mnemoc> and i hate it :p
22:32 < Baldzius> farther he wrotes that xfce 4.4 probably will ship xffm
22:32 < sepp> :)
22:33 < Baldzius> so i have to use konqueror as always :)
22:33 < mnemoc> doh
22:33 < sepp> xffm is not very "similar" to mc
22:34 < sepp> only the basic idea is the same thing
22:34 < mnemoc> i didn't say 'very' :)
22:34 < sepp> hehe
22:36 < Baldzius> well i need to confess i dont know how to use xffm, i guess they should release a book "xffm for dummies" like me
22:37 < mnemoc> order one for me too please
22:37 < Baldzius> :)
22:40 < sepp> evidence is also crap :/
23:18 < sepp> is it be ok if i make a default option for wings3d that compiles the erlang vm, esdl and wings and only install the really needed parts from inside a single wings3d package?
23:18 < sepp> but with the option to get the full erlang crap ...
23:56 < Baldzius> r15379 | rene | 2006-02-09 20:29:34 +0000 (Thu, 09 Feb 2006) | 3 lines
23:56 < Baldzius> * added a 70-hal.rules to hall and install it conditionally if udev
23:56 < Baldzius> is available (untested, but should work)
23:56 < Baldzius> hehehehe it doesn't :)
23:58 < Baldzius> at least for me
23:59 < Baldzius> ooops
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