--- Log opened Wed Jan 18 00:00:23 2006 --- Day changed Wed Jan 18 2006 00:00 < Baldzius> i can almost guarantee you that you'll get same error with r14161 00:00 < Baldzius> maybe you could try? 00:00 < Baldzius> it fails anyway 00:02 < morfoh> Baldzius: ok ... have rescheduled kaffe but meanwhile it started kdebase ... and this will take some f* time ;) 00:02 < Baldzius> hehehe, yeah for kde* dual core is needed :) 00:03 < Baldzius> for kde 5.0 we need quadro :) 00:03 < morfoh> Baldzius: and btw, I'm running a second build on it ... this will makes things even worser :p 00:04 < karasz> guys did someone fiddled with pgAdmin? 00:04 < karasz> or should i package it? 00:04 < Baldzius> poor morfoh's computer :) 00:04 < morfoh> Baldzius: ack ... I suck * out of him :) 00:05 < morfoh> karasz: what type of pg admin UI is pgAdmin ? 00:06 < Baldzius> morfoh: what he (coputer) did to you that you hate him so much .. ? :) 00:06 < Baldzius> computer 00:06 < morfoh> karasz: we've a "package/database/phppgadmin" 00:07 < karasz> i know that 00:07 < karasz> pg admin is wxwindows 00:08 < morfoh> Baldzius: he did nothing ... he is just my number crunching servant :p 00:08 < morfoh> Baldzius: but he is lamer :p 00:08 < Baldzius> l0l 00:09 < karasz> iirc pgadmin after psql is de facto the UI for postgresql 00:10 < morfoh> karasz: if we don't have it and you're sure that it is not included within pgsql itself then go go go ... package it ;) 00:11 < morfoh> anyway ... if you need the "de facto" pg UI ... go go go ... package it ;) 00:11 < karasz> not included for sure ;) 00:11 < karasz> i use it a lot 00:11 < morfoh> go go go 00:11 < karasz> yes sir 00:11 < morfoh> nah :) 00:11 * karasz goin' goin' goin' 00:13 < Baldzius> 'k me rebuilding kaffe with r14161 00:20 < Baldzius> heh as i said 00:20 < Baldzius> same error 00:21 < Baldzius> i think i'll take a look tommorow 00:21 < Baldzius> f* libtool how i hate it :) 00:22 < jsaw> ack 00:23 < Baldzius> and all started after 1.5.22 upgrade iirc 00:32 < morfoh> == 01:30:38 =[3]=> Building base/libtool [1.5.14 2.1-stable]. <-- god save the stable tree maintainer :) 00:32 < Baldzius> :)))) 00:33 < Baldzius> with 1.5.14 stable tree maintainer is safe :) 00:34 < Baldzius> i think .. |:) 00:36 < morfoh> xapascho tabapisch Baldzius |:) 00:37 < morfoh> Baldzius: don't shoot me ! :) 00:38 < Baldzius> ^^ what language was before that? :) 00:38 < Baldzius> looks like russian but not quite 00:38 < morfoh> Baldzius: ack ... it was a bit mixed :p 00:39 < morfoh> Baldzius: some chars missing :p 00:39 < Baldzius> oh, xorosho tovarisch 00:39 < Baldzius> :))))) 00:40 < morfoh> :D 00:42 < Baldzius> russian language is evil , especialy grammar, ain't talking about litnuanian grammar, finished school and still don't know it perfect :) 00:43 < morfoh> Baldzius: hehe ... :) 00:43 < morfoh> Baldzius: you should try to learn german grammar :p 00:44 < Baldzius> ains cvai drai fier fiunf zyx zyben :) 00:44 < morfoh> Baldzius: russian isn't that bad :) 00:45 < Baldzius> morfoh : i was joking about russian :) 00:45 < morfoh> Baldzius: :) 00:45 < Baldzius> lithuanian grammar is evil :) 00:45 < Baldzius> ^^ - and i am not joking now :) 00:45 < morfoh> dunno ... but if you say so ... :) 00:47 < Baldzius> :) 00:48 < morfoh> I guess it's very different from russian 00:51 < Baldzius> yes 00:59 < mnemoc> re 01:00 < mnemoc> morfoh: can you see if ./configure support --enable-alsa or something like that? 01:05 < Baldzius> 'k good night guys :) 01:06 < mnemoc> gn8 Baldzius 01:07 < karasz> gn8 Baldzius 01:07 < karasz> mnemoc: ? 01:08 < mnemoc> uhm? 01:08 < karasz> we do not have problems with postgresql downloads? 01:08 < karasz> they do not like downloads from ftp.postgresql.org 01:09 < karasz> so [D] should make some magic to one mirror... i guess 01:12 < morfoh> oh! wb mnemoc :) 01:13 < morfoh> gn8 Baldzius :) 01:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: --with-alsa-prefix=PFX Prefix where Alsa library is installed(optional) 01:14 < morfoh> --with-alsa-inc-prefix=PFX Prefix where include libraries are (optional) 01:18 < mnemoc> can you try setting them? 01:18 < karasz> damit 01:18 < mnemoc> karasz: misc/share/DownloadTranslations 01:18 < karasz> i will vomit if i see another hardcoded path 01:19 < mnemoc> pkgprefix is your friend :) 01:19 < mnemoc> pkgprefix includedir alsa 01:19 < karasz> really? 01:19 < mnemoc> sure 01:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm trying yet 01:19 < mnemoc> pkgprefix includedir foo will return you the value at $includedir on foo package 01:19 < karasz> fsckin' configure test for /usr, /usr/local, /usr/pgsql then exits 01:20 < karasz> if it is not there it isn't on the system o_O 01:20 < mnemoc> --with-lib-postgresaql=$( pkgprefix libdir postgresql ) 01:20 < karasz> nope 01:20 < mnemoc> no configure option? 01:21 < karasz> it isn't used just for libs 01:21 < karasz> btw it cannot see lib64 01:21 < karasz> only lib since it is hardcoded in the configure 01:21 < mnemoc> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' -I$( pkgprefix includedir postgresql ) 01:21 < mnemoc> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' -L$( pkgprefix libdir postgresql ) 01:21 < karasz> first i do a test build see if it builds at all 01:21 < mnemoc> injected directly to gcc :) 01:22 < karasz> then if all ok i will fiddle with packin' 01:22 < mnemoc> :) 01:22 < mnemoc> you don't have GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND when building by hand ,-) 01:22 < karasz> btw it is pgadmin, 01:23 < karasz> that is right but i have a ln -s ;) 01:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: shout louder!!! 01:23 < mnemoc> ? 01:23 < karasz> nothing, 01:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: you don't have GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND when building by hand ,-) 01:23 < karasz> i gues morfoh is a liitle too sensitive today ;) 01:23 < mnemoc> :) 01:24 < morfoh> karasz: ? 01:24 < morfoh> :) 01:24 < mnemoc> morfoh is too sensitive daily 01:24 < karasz> it must be the beers ... 01:24 * karasz hides 01:25 * morfoh isn't drinking much beer 01:25 * karasz cut his hair so morfoh cannot grab it ;D 01:26 < karasz> i was kiddin' morfoh 01:27 * morfoh is wondering ... why the hell karasz is thinking that he is still alive ? ... :) 01:28 < karasz> hehe 01:28 < mnemoc> it's a reflex 01:32 < karasz> nice 01:32 < karasz> pgqdmin3 built 01:34 < mnemoc> finally 01:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: we've to wait for kdebase ... kaffe will follow 01:35 < mnemoc> :) 01:35 < mnemoc> grep -rn SND_SEQ_CLIENT_OSS build/livecd-*/usr/include 01:35 < mnemoc> ? 01:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: mom ... machine is laming 01:38 < morfoh> nope 01:40 < mnemoc> jsaw: still awake? 01:42 < jsaw> yep 01:42 * jsaw kicks gcc's option mangling 01:43 < jsaw> arts compilation problems is due to that --^ not due to libtool 01:43 < jsaw> f*ck 01:43 < jsaw> mnemoc: what? 01:43 < mnemoc> jsaw: can i get devfs symlinks without devfs? OSS more precisely 01:44 < mnemoc> using rockplug 01:44 < jsaw> eh 01:44 < mnemoc> without devfsd i mean 01:44 < jsaw> (hear how the bones in my head are ticking) 01:44 < mnemoc> :) 01:45 < jsaw> grep -R for "usb.perm" iirc 01:45 < jsaw> in the /etc/rockplug dir 01:45 < jsaw> it's in some usb.*map file 01:46 < mnemoc> $ grep -rn usb.perm /etc/rockplug/ | wc -l 01:46 < mnemoc> 0 01:46 < mnemoc> :\ 01:46 < jsaw> flist, where are the "usb.*map" files 01:46 < mnemoc> ./scripts/usbfs.perm ? 01:46 < jsaw> ah 01:46 < jsaw> usbfs.perm .... 01:47 < mnemoc> etc/rockplug/config/usb.distmap 01:47 < jsaw> it should be possible to do the same thing for sound stuff 01:50 < karasz> that is it for today 01:51 < karasz> before packin' pgadmin i should do more fiddle with it... 01:52 * mnemoc stunned looking at usb.usermap 01:53 < jsaw> ? 01:54 < mnemoc> i have lot to learn :p 01:54 < jsaw> what's in there? 01:54 < jsaw> that makes you learn? 02:00 < mnemoc> the whole hotplug thing 02:01 < mnemoc> i need to learn to understand rockplug :) 02:01 < jsaw> a bit obscure...I know 02:01 < mnemoc> but at least know i know where to start diging :) 02:02 < jsaw> am I going to patch kde packages or fix binutils 02:02 < jsaw> hmm 02:03 < karasz> mnemoc: why are postgresql contribs in the /doc directory? 02:04 < mnemoc> where else? 02:05 < karasz> but they are not documentations... 02:05 < karasz> they are utilities 02:05 < mnemoc> extra utils 02:06 < karasz> right 02:06 < mnemoc> which don't belong to $bindir by default 02:06 < karasz> but still utils not docu... 02:06 < karasz> ack 02:06 < karasz> not in $bindir 02:06 < mnemoc> they are 'stored' at the 'documentation library' for 'reference' 02:07 < mnemoc> to store them somewhere, because they don't belong anywhere else 02:07 < mnemoc> default config files are also at $docdir for reference 02:09 < karasz> /usr/share/postgresql/contrib/ maybe? 02:09 < karasz> i am askin because those utils are used... 02:09 < mnemoc> $docdir/contrib maybe 02:09 < karasz> and that docu is hard to find... 02:10 < mnemoc> /usr/share/postgresql is _datadir_ 02:10 < mnemoc> contrib scripts are not data 02:10 < karasz> mine is /var/opt/postgresql on 2.1 stable 02:10 < mnemoc> :) 02:11 < karasz> and i didn't fiddle with it 02:11 < mnemoc> that's localstate dir 02:11 < karasz> package installed that way 02:11 < mnemoc> 515 datadir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/share" ;; 02:11 < mnemoc> 516 infodir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/info" ;; 02:11 < mnemoc> 517 mandir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/man" ;; 02:11 < mnemoc> 518 docdir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/doc/$xpkg" ;; 02:11 < mnemoc> 519 includedir) echo "${xprefix:-/usr}/include" ;; 02:11 < karasz> i saw that on .conf 02:11 < mnemoc> 520 sysconfdir) echo "/etc${xprefix##/usr*}" ;; 02:11 < mnemoc> 521 localstatedir) echo "/var${xprefix##/usr*}" ;; 02:12 < mnemoc> contrib script are just preserved because someone may want them 02:13 < mnemoc> but they are not really part of the package 02:13 < karasz> ack 02:13 < mnemoc> on your target you can extend postgresql package and move the contrib tool you want to include by default on your distribution to $bindir 02:13 < karasz> from there they usualy migrate in the source 02:13 < karasz> nah 02:13 < karasz> $bindir isn't right for those 02:14 < mnemoc> that's why they are at docdir 02:14 < mnemoc> for reference 02:14 < karasz> it is strange 02:14 < karasz> but i see the logic 02:15 < mnemoc> datadir, infodir, mandir, docdir, includedir, sysconfdir, bindir, sbindir, libdir 02:15 < karasz> functions.in ;) 02:15 < mnemoc> peek one for 'unrelated stuff you want to preserve' 02:15 < mnemoc> docdir is the closer 02:16 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.97.53] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:16 < karasz> yup 02:16 < karasz> that is the closest match 02:16 < mnemoc> :) 02:17 < karasz> never thought of it in that way.... 02:17 < jsaw> who remembers the problems with unresolved symbols in arts ? 02:18 < mnemoc> not me 02:18 < karasz> jsaw: this is what you are lookin' for? http://karasz.pastebin.ca/35526 02:19 < jsaw> yep 02:19 < karasz> cool 02:19 < karasz> there you have it 02:19 < karasz> ;) 02:19 < jsaw> I hope I fixed it 02:20 < jsaw> during build, "--no-undefined --allow-shlibs-undefined" is passed to the linker 02:20 < jsaw> --no-undefined however overrides --allow-shlibs-undefined... 02:22 < jsaw> I added some fix to binutils, I hope it works 02:23 -!- netrunner [n=andreas@anvame.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:23 -!- netrunner [n=andreas@anvame.net] has joined #t2 02:23 < jsaw> have to head home, cu later 02:23 < mnemoc> there is something broken on the toolchain, i got another issue due to broken limits.h 02:24 < mnemoc> building gcc-3.4.5 02:25 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Lnkrz956.html 02:26 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 02:30 < karasz> cu jsaw 02:30 < karasz> i go home too 02:31 < karasz> cu tomorrow guys 02:34 < mnemoc> cu karasz 02:36 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:37 < mnemoc> morfoh: awake? 02:43 < mnemoc> morfoh: doubt solved :) 02:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: ? 02:49 < mnemoc> leo answered :) 02:50 < morfoh> mnemoc: so no need for answering sth. :) 02:50 < mnemoc> ,-) 02:51 < mnemoc> how was the kaffe build with explicit alsa location? 02:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: i fear it hasn't started yet :) 02:55 < morfoh> oh! no it failed 02:56 < mnemoc> :\ 03:00 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 03:01 < mnemoc> morfoh: i can't catch how 'woher' sounds :'( 03:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: use http://dict.leo.org 03:27 < mnemoc> i did 03:27 < mnemoc> but that word is ununderstandable :p 03:27 < jsaw> oh 03:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: "wo" + "her" maybe? 03:28 < mnemoc> her, like in english? 03:29 < mnemoc> sounds shorter than tha 03:29 < mnemoc> +t 03:29 < mnemoc> i'll better go to sleep :p 03:29 < mnemoc> too many nasty noises for one day 03:30 < jsaw> mnemoc: similar to english, but the "e" is more like the "e" in Kenntucky 03:30 < mnemoc> aha 03:30 < mnemoc> between woher and wer i'm a big stunned :p 03:30 < jsaw> mnemoc: "wo" is like quo without q 03:31 < mnemoc> that was good 03:31 < mnemoc> yes! that's it 03:31 < jsaw> O.O 03:31 < mnemoc> very compact but sounds like that :p 03:32 < jsaw> not much more compact than donde ...? 03:33 < mnemoc> 'donde' takes almost 1.5 seconds 03:33 < mnemoc> woher less than 1 03:33 < jsaw> em, not really 03:34 < mnemoc> donde is even 2+ seconds 03:34 < jsaw> the "e" is a long "e" 03:34 < jsaw> mnemoc: :p 03:34 < mnemoc> uhm, you are right 03:35 < jsaw> hmm, wtf, arts builds now 03:35 < mnemoc> god blessed you :) 03:35 < jsaw> only with updating binutils... 03:35 < jsaw> o.O 03:36 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Lnkrz956.html <---- somehow #import doesn't work properly at stage 2 03:36 < mnemoc> #include i mean :p 03:36 < mnemoc> wrong language :p 03:37 < jsaw> hehe 03:37 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14893 /trunk/package/base/binutils/ (binutils.conf binutils.desc have_stdlib.patch ld-glob.patch): 03:37 < CIA-8> * update binutils (2.16.91.0.3 -> 2.16.91.0.5) 03:37 < CIA-8> * copyright updates 03:39 < jsaw> Now kdelibs fails due to wrong multilib linkage. 03:39 < jsaw> I give up for today (damn libtool) 03:42 < mnemoc> i give up for native dietlibc support for today too 03:42 < jsaw> oh, the limits.h thing is on dietlibc? 03:42 < mnemoc> nope 03:42 < mnemoc> well... both 03:42 < mnemoc> bootdisk and minimal 03:43 < jsaw> O.O 03:43 < mnemoc> problem not present with gcc-3.4.4 but yes with 3.4.5 03:43 < mnemoc> but #include is there 03:43 < jsaw> anything in changelog about #include_next 03:43 < jsaw> ? 03:44 < mnemoc> 2005-11-30 Release Manager 03:44 < mnemoc> * GCC 3.4.5 released. 03:44 < mnemoc> 2005-05-19 Release Manager 03:44 < mnemoc> * GCC 3.4.4 released. 03:44 < mnemoc> ^--- Changelog :\ 03:45 < mnemoc> no entries between 2005-11-30 and 2005-05-19 03:46 < mnemoc> ok, good night :) 03:47 < jsaw> wait a sec 03:47 < jsaw> http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=303660 03:47 < jsaw> mnemoc: --^ compare this 03:48 < jsaw> now you can go to bed 03:48 < jsaw> :) 03:48 < jsaw> g'night 03:50 < sparc-kl1> ' 03:59 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF87A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:05 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE5D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 04:13 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFB278.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:25 -!- raamcm [n=root@59.145.141.50] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:41 -!- sparc-kl1 [n=mubex@64.237.247.138] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:26 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178155133.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 06:26 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 06:26 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 06:26 [Users #t2] 06:26 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ netrunner] [ rxr_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 06:26 [ axion__ ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp ] 06:26 [ CIA-8 ] [ karasz] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 06:26 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 06:26 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 06:26 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 06:26 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 06:33 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178184098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:47 < LMJ> gooooooooooood morning 06:59 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 07:10 < LMJ> hello mipe 07:11 < mipe> hi LMJ 07:12 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD51C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 07:35 < rxr_> moin 07:35 -!- You're now known as rxr 07:50 < mipe> hi rxr 07:52 < rxr> go vote: http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl 07:52 < rxr> hi mipe 07:54 < rxr> http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/hardware/docs/pdf/819-3952-10.pdf 07:54 < rxr> ^- manual of unpublished Sun Ultra 40 ... 07:54 < rxr> http:///www.osnews.com claims .. 07:54 < rxr> still loading 08:13 < mipe> hmm... this is wierd 08:13 < mipe> gcc says athlon4 is invalid for -march and -mtune 08:14 < mipe> ah yes.. it is 08:15 < mipe> so architecture/x86/config.in it uses the "id" for -march? 08:15 < mipe> if so... athlon4 should be changed to athlon-4 08:18 < owl> moin 08:32 -!- CIA-8 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:35 -!- CIA-2 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 08:40 < rxr> mipe: oh - did they change that ... 08:41 < rxr> mipe: do you commit ? 08:43 < mipe> rxr:sure i'll commit 08:43 < rxr> good ,-) 08:44 < mipe> oh crap 08:45 < mipe> typos 08:45 < CIA-2> mika * r14894 /trunk/architecture/x86/config.in: * changed arch define athlon4 to athlon-4 to work for latest gcc 08:47 -!- CIA-2 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:48 -!- CIA-2 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 08:54 < CIA-2> rene * r14895 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/config.in: 08:55 < CIA-2> * updated powerpc optimization options to use the new G3, G4 mnemonics 08:55 < CIA-2> and added G5 to the powerpc(32) config.in 09:53 < rxr> re 10:24 < mipe> rxr: vnc has been updated to 4.1.1(trunk has 4.0) but i dont know the new url 10:24 < rxr> hm 10:24 < mipe> rxr: homepage has form to fill before download 10:25 < rxr> heh 10:25 < mipe> but it has some new features 10:25 < mipe> rdp for example.. dont know if current already has it but bug fixes atleast 10:25 < rxr> mipe: it does not work just bumping the version in the download tag = 10:25 < rxr> ? even 10:26 < mipe> nope 10:26 < rxr> the fill the form and watch closely what url your browser gets ,-) 10:26 < mipe> but can we do that.. i mean bypass the download form? 10:26 < rxr> it is BSD licensed 10:27 < rxr> we could also inject it directly onto our mirror if that makes you feel better 10:27 < rxr> but I usually just paste the original url when the stuff is open source .. 10:27 < rxr> we are not breaking a site or cracking some encryption ... 10:27 < rxr> we just document what the sites tells the download is .. 10:28 < rxr> btw. I think the License tag of VNC is wrong 10:28 < mipe> yep it says GPL-2? 10:28 < rxr> it lists GPL, but IIRC it is BSD or MIT or whatsover 10:28 < rxr> guess it might be even me slipping that in ... 10:29 < mipe> actually GPL-2 on download form 10:29 < rxr> really ? 10:29 < mipe> showing up license 10:29 < mipe> yep 10:29 < rxr> they claim it is GPL ? 10:29 < rxr> crazzy .. 10:29 < rxr> well, inject the new URL then ,-) 10:30 < mipe> how does Download handle cgi? it goes through download.cgi and validating form input 10:30 < mipe> for example.. http://local/download.cgi?form-values-here 10:30 < rxr> mipe: there will be some static file at the end 10:30 < rxr> extract that 10:31 < rxr> that is what I most probably did for the previous version as well 10:45 < mipe> -20 degrees and windy... damm its cold 10:45 < LMJ> Wow 10:45 < mipe> but forecast says -25 for tomorrow 10:45 < rxr> mipe: cool 10:45 < LMJ> nope, cold 10:45 < rxr> has been -8 here some days ago - now -2 10:45 < LMJ> ;) 10:46 < LMJ> 9°C now here ;) 10:46 < rxr> but 8cm new snow last night here in berlin 10:46 < mipe> just readed some news its -50 on siperia :) 10:46 < rxr> heh 10:46 < rxr> I like winter - as long as it is not -20 - -50 ... 10:47 < mipe> yeah me too... 10:47 < mipe> -5 to -10 is good for me 10:47 < mipe> over -10 and ice skating get bit painfull 10:48 < mipe> *hockey* 10:48 < LMJ> damned, my server can ping "216.239.59.99" but not "www.google.com" 10:48 < LMJ> seems to be a DNS problem 10:50 < LMJ> damned 10:57 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.101.175] has joined #t2 10:57 < Baldzius> good morning 10:58 < rxr> moin Baldzius 10:58 < Baldzius> hi rxr 11:04 < CIA-2> rene * r14896 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.desc: * updated hotplug++ (0.0.4 -> 0.0.5) 11:09 < rxr> Baldzius: will you update Sweep 0.9.0, or should = 11:09 < rxr> I? 11:09 < Baldzius> you :) 11:09 < rxr> hehe ,-) 11:10 < Baldzius> i am trying to fix gtkhtml10 here :) 11:10 < Baldzius> damn old stuff 11:12 < Baldzius> 'll update udev later 11:12 < Baldzius> tested - works 11:20 < CIA-2> rene * r14897 /trunk/package/audio/sweep/sweep.desc: * updated sweep (0.8.4 -> 0.9.0) - development but finally Gtk+-2.x ... 11:27 < owl> LMJ: do you know by accident how many years guarantee the rebel tx has? 11:29 < CIA-2> rene * r14898 /trunk/package/base/ (linux26/disable-broken.lst linux26mm/disable-broken.lst): * added QLOGIC_FC to the 26*/disable-broken and synced them 11:31 < LMJ> owl, what are you talking about ? 11:31 < LMJ> what is "rebel tx" ? 11:32 < owl> LMJ: cancon eso 350d 11:32 < owl> canon 11:32 < LMJ> haaa ;) 11:32 < LMJ> 1 or 2 years 11:32 < owl> i can't find infromation about that thing (guarantee) 11:33 < LMJ> My father got a optic : Sigma 18/200 + the default ne 18-55 11:33 < owl> btw, do you know by accident how the telezoom is? (quality of it) 11:34 < LMJ> from the canon EFS 18/55 ? 11:34 < owl> yep, this one and the other (50 - 200 or something) 11:35 < owl> i am thinking about buying a bundle with two lenses 11:35 < LMJ> Sigma 18/200 make on a regular 24/36 : 28/320mm 11:37 < owl> hmmmm. at least in .de there is a it with an 18-55 and 55-200... that would be interesting *thk* 11:38 < LMJ> could be 11:38 < LMJ> depending on what you will do with it 11:39 < LMJ> 18-55 more for outside large stuff 11:39 < LMJ> or inside 11:39 < LMJ> 55-200 more for outside 11:39 < LMJ> you will need more light around "200" 11:39 < owl> yep. want to do both... so the comb... ;) 11:39 < LMJ> but the CCD is pretty sensible and make nice picture even in dark scene 11:40 < owl> ++i. yep. i know... the most tele need it i guess.. 11:40 < LMJ> quite impressive 11:40 < owl> cool :) an tripod i own... so that sohould not be the problem 11:40 < LMJ> got one too 11:40 < LMJ> a Vivitar one ;) 11:41 < owl> hehe. i have a "tar 63". 11:41 < owl> it fits my needs. quite stable... ;) 11:41 < owl> sigh. i have everything - except an DSLR :( 11:42 < LMJ> it will come 11:43 < owl> sigh. yeah, i hope so... and hopefully it will stay with me a bit longer than my konica 11:43 < LMJ> what happend ? 11:43 < owl> well. vT-Systems Pressearchiv 11:43 < owl> ARGHS 11:44 < owl> well, i've got it back yesterday because it is the 3rd cam - which was also defect 11:44 < owl> (the first wasn't defect, but it was a show-cam...) 11:44 < owl> and the two "new" cams were both defect. (focus / backfocus and some mechanical problems) 11:44 < LMJ> ok 11:45 < LMJ> ho no 11:45 < LMJ> btw 11:45 < owl> and very bad image-qualitty (compared to the first one) 11:45 < LMJ> have you heard about the Sony CCD history ? 11:45 < owl> nope. 11:45 < owl> btw, the 3 cams weere in a timeframe vom within 2 month 11:45 < LMJ> during 2/3 years, Sony sold potential CCD with problems 11:46 < owl> ouch 11:46 < LMJ> they admit it, excuse, and certainly make a new cheap digi cam to replace all bad cam already sold 11:46 < owl> but there should be a problem with omi dynax 5d/7d too. 11:47 < owl> oearks. and what happend to the old cams? 11:47 < LMJ> there are TONS of models who used Sony CCD 11:47 < LMJ> bad image quality 11:47 < owl> well. hobefully not the rebel tx? ;) 11:47 < LMJ> in fact, a kind of glue start to mess up, and eat the CCD 11:47 < LMJ> or electronic contacts around 11:48 < LMJ> Canon makes CCD by itself 11:48 < owl> goood :) 11:48 < LMJ> that's rare 11:48 < LMJ> I need a suicide package maintainer today ;) 11:49 < owl> hm. do you know if komi produces it's c cds? 11:49 < owl> suicide package? :) 11:49 < LMJ> i don't think so 11:49 < owl> hmm. ok. 11:49 < LMJ> i have the list around 11:49 < LMJ> maybe in my father bedroom ;) 11:49 < owl> O_O 11:51 < mnemoc> moin 11:51 < LMJ> ROTFL 11:51 < owl> hi mnemoc . 11:51 < valentin> moin 11:52 < owl> hi valentin 11:52 < LMJ> I just asked for a suicide Package maintainer ;) 11:52 < LMJ> hello mnemoc 11:52 < mnemoc> hi LMJ, valentin, owl 11:55 < rxr> moin mnemoc 11:55 < valentin> hi owl, mnemoc rxr, LMJ, ... 11:55 < mnemoc> moin rxr 11:55 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2006011713194716420 11:55 < LMJ> moin valentin 11:55 < owl> ^hi rxr 11:56 < valentin> my two girls are a bit ill, so i have to stay @home todat :/ 11:56 < valentin> today 11:56 < rxr> I wonder why netrunner did not add a tiny acknowledgement for comments on #t2 11:56 < mnemoc> valentin: :( 11:56 < mnemoc> what comments? 11:56 < rxr> mnemoc: how to use udev 11:56 < rxr> and hotplug interaction 11:58 < valentin> rxr: i think it is ok. he "found out" how to do it by asking expert developers... 11:58 < valentin> which is the way we do sometimes, too :) 11:58 < rxr> valentin: on the list he posted he has read the README 11:59 < rxr> I write, hey BenH did some gread FAN control patch, not I worked a week comming up with it ... 12:00 < rxr> mnemoc: the irc logs will be online in some minutes 12:00 < rxr> I pull instead push now to get it going again ... 12:00 < mnemoc> have you read gpl3? 12:00 < rxr> mnemoc: no - only some comments 12:01 < rxr> but I read submaster which made me sad 12:02 < mnemoc> :\ 12:03 < rxr> mnemoc: you are up early ,-) fallen out of the bed ? 12:05 < LMJ> lol 12:05 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/ 12:06 < mnemoc> rxr: i just arrived 10 minutes earlier to office 12:08 < mnemoc> but yes, i opened screen about 2 hours earlier :p 12:09 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2006011713194716420 12:09 < rxr> so - commented 12:13 < mnemoc> nah, he asked rxr.. friendly, as the answer helped him to fix a bug at ROCK, i would expect acknowledgement when code is taken from the tree but for help i just expect a 'thanks' :) 12:13 < mnemoc> s/as/and/1 12:14 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20060117.113623.e59e8b63.html 12:14 < rxr> "I just found out that ..." 12:15 < rxr> trolls ... 12:15 < mnemoc> uh 12:15 < rxr> 2 days or so after he was lurking around over here ... 12:15 < rxr> must have been a long README he scrolled over ... ,-) 12:15 * rxr fresh coffee and then back to work 12:15 < mnemoc> :) 12:16 < rxr> but the quote of the irclog url at least motivated me enough to add irclog syncing from the geode router ... 12:16 < mnemoc> relax, no need to stress for something like that 12:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I can do better with my time than helping netrunner getting his udev to work ... 12:17 < mnemoc> there is no need to be hostile 12:17 < rxr> often do we want to pull the irclogs ? 12:17 < mnemoc> 2h? 12:17 < rxr> uh - that often ,-) 12:18 < mnemoc> why not? ,-) 12:18 < mnemoc> README nick is taken :\ 12:19 < rxr> btw. when we want to relicense to gpl v3 I fear we have to negotiate that with the ROCK folks, our license is not "or any later version at your option" ... 12:19 < mnemoc> afaiu you just get v3 12:19 < rxr> hm ? 12:19 < mnemoc> because our license is 'v2 or later' 12:19 < rxr> it is ? 12:19 * rxr not sure 12:20 -!- jsaw is now known as RTFM 12:20 < RTFM> mnemoc: how about that nick? 12:21 < mnemoc> D 12:21 < mnemoc> :D 12:21 -!- RTFM is now known as jsaw 12:21 < jsaw> re 12:21 -!- jsaw is now known as RTFB 12:21 < RTFB> I find that one even better 12:21 < mnemoc> B? 12:21 < RTFB> Binary 12:21 < mnemoc> LOL 12:21 < rxr> Source ß 12:22 < RTFB> http://www.science.uva.nl/~mes/jargon/r/rtfb.html 12:22 < mnemoc> :) 12:23 -!- RTFB is now known as jsaw 12:23 < jsaw> hi mnemoc,rxr :) btw 12:24 < rxr> hi binary 12:24 < jsaw> :] 12:24 < rxr> hehe /nick 01 not possible 12:24 < rxr> 12:24 -!- 01 Erroneous Nickname 12:25 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.255.7] has joined #t2 12:25 < mnemoc> rxr: did distrowatch person answer about feeding versions? 12:25 < rxr> oehm - no 12:26 < rxr> not the last time I check mail some hours ago 12:26 < rxr> my laptop is in windows mode to continue fianlizing testing with cwrsync 12:26 < rxr> though so far I tinkered with irclog cync ... :-( 12:27 < mnemoc> :( 12:35 < rxr> not ;-) 12:39 < CIA-2> msluis * r14899 /trunk/package/java/maven/maven.desc: * updated maven (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2) 12:41 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.255.7] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:43 < rxr> this cossh works better than cwrsync 12:43 < rxr> I guess I tell the client to install this cossh and inject the rsync binary additionally ... 12:43 < rxr> the openssh shipped in rsync is strange 12:44 < rxr> or just lacks some surrounding config whatsoever is needed on Windows ... 12:44 < mnemoc> what about putty? 12:44 < rxr> they need a ssh server and rsync ... 12:45 < mnemoc> ah, server .. ok 12:45 < rxr> cd /cygdrive/c/ 12:45 < rxr> heh 12:45 < mnemoc> .) 12:45 < rxr> my stomarch turns over yet again ... 12:46 < rxr> at least the bash is way more useful than this stupid cmd.exe thingi ... 12:47 < rxr> oh - copssh it is named btw, not cosh 12:48 < rxr> myhome -> /cygdrive/c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/rene 12:53 < rxr> well, with copssh instead of the cwrsync budled ssh this is way more relaxing and working 12:53 < rxr> so I can start the next task I think, debugging kernel USB instability ... 12:53 < rxr> (on certian boxes including specificlally the Geode LX ) 12:54 < rxr> .oO(I could benchmark backuping of the thoudsands of t2 files in my t2-trunk to a reiser4 partition and the ntfs partition ...) 12:54 < rxr> too bad I'm not that evil and have no free time at all 12:56 < CIA-2> amery * r14900 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/hotfix_alsalib.patch: * fixed kaffe to build with alsa-lib 1.0.10 13:01 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc, testing ^^ 13:18 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED17B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:18 < rxr> moin morfoh 13:18 < morfoh> moin 13:18 < morfoh> :) 13:18 < Baldzius> hi morfoh 13:19 < morfoh> hey "tavarish gun" :) 13:19 < Baldzius> :) 13:19 < morfoh> Baldzius: cool codename :p 13:23 < CIA-2> aldas * r14901 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * updated udev (080 -> 081) 13:25 < CIA-2> rene * r14902 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * removed outdated warning about incompatibility from udev.dev 13:27 < rxr> the udev people do it again 13:27 < rxr> they want to remove %e for enumaration such as /dev/cdrom%e 13:27 < rxr> those damn bastards 13:28 < rxr> also the kernel folks consider shuffling the /sys device tree 13:28 * rxr gets a headache 13:28 < rxr> do those people have nothing to do? 13:31 < Baldzius> :) 13:31 < CIA-2> aldas * r14903 /trunk/package/gnome14/gtkhtml10/ (compile-fix.patch gcc34.patch gtkhtml10.conf gtkhtml10.desc): 13:31 < CIA-2> * added gtkhtml10/compile-fix.patch 13:31 < CIA-2> * updated copyrights 13:48 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc-kl@64.237.255.7] has joined #t2 14:23 < mnemoc> rehi 14:23 < mnemoc> Baldzius: did alsa patch worked? 14:23 < mnemoc> Baldzius: i just stole it from ML 14:24 < Baldzius> mnemoc: yes it works 14:26 < mnemoc> :D 14:26 < rxr> hey mnemoc 14:26 * mnemoc does the dance of the thief 14:26 < karasz> moin all 14:26 < mnemoc> hi rxr 14:26 < mnemoc> moin karasz 14:26 * karasz pouring coffee 14:29 < karasz> mnemoc: dancing?? 14:29 < karasz> hello rxr 14:29 < karasz> zdraslutye kommrad morfoh 14:30 < karasz> hello Baldzius master updater ;) 14:30 < Baldzius> hi karasz :) 14:30 < mnemoc> karasz: dance of the thief, not any dance 14:30 < karasz> Buenas dias senor mnemoc ;) 14:31 < karasz> whouuu is that good mnemoc ? 14:31 < karasz> ah thief... 14:31 < karasz> i thought chief... 14:31 < karasz> i guess i am still sleepin' 14:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: moin dancing queen :) 14:32 < morfoh> moin ... tavarish karasz-san :) 14:32 * karasz lookin' for minto .... 14:33 < mnemoc> morfoh: hi :) 14:33 < mnemoc> morfoh: kaffe might be fixed now 14:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: really ? what was the problem ? 14:38 < Baldzius> alsa not libtool :) 14:38 < mnemoc> :) 14:39 < morfoh> we'll see ... :) 14:44 < karasz> mnemoc: i want to stop a build package right after configure was done... 14:44 < karasz> can i do that? 14:45 < mnemoc> hook_add premake 5 false 14:46 < karasz> ahum i thought it is something like this 14:55 < morfoh> mnemoc / Baldzius: kaffe was build ;) 14:56 < mnemoc> D 14:56 < mnemoc> :D 14:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: but perhaps we should add a check for "alsa-lib" and disabling kaffe's alsa support if it's not available ... I think it's enabled by default 15:00 < mnemoc> the problem is an API hcange between 1.0.9 and 1.0.10 15:00 < mnemoc> alsa support might be detected properly 15:05 < mnemoc> OT: 802.11g is compatible with a or b ? 15:05 < mnemoc> b 15:06 < morfoh> :) 15:08 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.140.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 15:19 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.171.244.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:29 < karasz> mnemoc: do you agree with this?: 15:29 < karasz> # PostgreSQL Team does not like us to use their ftp 15:29 < karasz> #s,^ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/,ftp://ftp.us.postgresql.org/pub/mirrors/postgresql/, 16:03 < mnemoc> it's commented :p 16:06 < karasz> beside that 16:06 < karasz> and pgadmin3 should go in /opt/pgadmin3/ ? 16:07 < mnemoc> beside that, it looks fine for americans 16:07 < mnemoc> pgadmin... prefix=$( pkgprefix postgesql ) ? 16:11 < karasz> ? 16:12 < karasz> i am askin where should i install pgadmin3... 16:12 < mnemoc> and i answered 16:12 < karasz> since postgresql is there and pgadmin is related to postgresql, i thought that there should be ok 16:12 < morfoh> karasz: and mnemoc answered that you should use the prefix of the pgsql package ;) 16:12 < mnemoc> :) 16:12 < mnemoc> am i too cryptic? 16:12 < karasz> hmm i am not used to answers with ? at the end... 16:13 < morfoh> karasz: even with nearly complete conf line :) 16:13 < mnemoc> pkgprefix -t postgesql 16:13 < mnemoc> prefix=$( pkgprefix postgesql ) 16:13 < mnemoc> set_confopt 16:13 < karasz> :D 16:13 < mnemoc> on top of .conf 16:17 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 16:17 < misl> hi folks :) 16:19 < mnemoc> hi misl 16:19 < misl> hi mnemoc: have you already updated classpath to 0.20? 16:20 < mnemoc> me? nah 16:20 < mnemoc> kaffe include it's own classpath :) 16:21 < valentin> mnemoc: query 16:21 < misl> I updated it but building fails on noisy :( 16:21 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has quit ["BRB"] 16:21 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has joined #t2 16:21 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has quit [Client Quit] 16:21 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has joined #t2 16:22 < mnemoc> misl: today i fixed an API incompatibility with alsa 16:22 < misl> which version 16:22 < misl> 2.1? 16:23 < _Ragnar_> re 16:27 < mnemoc> misl: trunk 16:27 < mnemoc> wb _Ragnar_ 16:27 < mnemoc> misl: 2.1 has kaffe 1.1.6 16:30 < LMJ> hello back 16:30 < LMJ> can i do the pig and post my big problem here ? 16:32 < LMJ> no, i used nopaste 16:32 < LMJ> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/o5irAK97.html 16:32 < LMJ> here is my fucking problemmmmm 16:43 < CIA-2> aldas * r14904 /trunk/package/emulators/vice/vice.desc: * updated vice (1.16 -> 1.19) 16:52 < nzg> can you resolve via 141.1.1.1 ? 16:53 < nzg> maybe some problems at your isp's datacenter 17:04 < LMJ> ok 17:04 < LMJ> fixed 17:04 < LMJ> dns mess problem ;) 17:06 < rxr> re 17:08 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 17:30 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED17B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:40 < CIA-2> aldas * r14905 /trunk/package/gnome14/gtkhtml10/gtkhtml10.desc: * accidently marked gtkhtml10 as NOPARALLEL - sorry :( 17:43 < misl> has any one been able to build ogle in 2.1? 17:47 < misl> First part build fine, but second part not 17:47 < misl> configure: error: * You must install ogle and ogle_gui in the same prefix 17:47 < rxr> hm 17:47 < rxr> did not aw that error yet 17:47 < rxr> saw 17:49 < misl> rxr: happened during 2.1 ref build 17:53 < rxr> x86-64 only? 17:53 < rxr> or x86 as well = 17:53 < rxr> ? 17:53 < misl> I have not tried x86 17:53 < misl> most 2.1 x86 minimal target won't build passed dietlibc 17:53 < misl> that is dietlibc fails. 17:54 < misl> most = all 17:58 < misl> rxr: what need to be done for you to regain access to noisy? 17:58 < rxr> misl: okok - I hand you the public key for my subnotebook 17:58 < rxr> or - wait 17:58 < rxr> the anthlon is powered up anyway 17:58 < rxr> I can login and add it myself ... ,-) 17:59 < misl> :D 18:00 < mnemoc> rehi 18:13 < valentin> re 18:14 < valentin> hi mnemoc 18:14 < valentin> hi misl 18:14 < valentin> and hi rxr of course, but said that before... 18:14 < rxr> hi valentin 18:14 < misl> hi valentin 18:18 < rxr> windows and mac users ... 18:19 < rxr> "Your latest driver works great, the profile support is supperb. It just crashed onces selecting a profile, but I work around that now." 18:19 < rxr> huh? superb and crashed? 18:19 < rxr> would be better if he would write how the hell to crash the profile selection ... 18:19 < rxr> but - well, Mac, other expectations ... 18:44 < mnemoc> one crash per day would be superb too :) 18:44 < rxr> on what scale? but ont T2/Linux I hope .. 18:45 < mnemoc> windows/mac users expectations 18:51 * owl shots herself, aksing if the user is just too dumb or if there's a bug... 18:51 < mnemoc> users are dumb by default 18:51 < owl> sigh. i think so, too... 18:52 < owl> SIGH 18:54 < owl> there are just some not correct sorted entries... so she must do something wrong 18:56 < rxr> hm - so many logo suggestions on the list ... 18:57 * mnemoc wonders if RL will use hotplug++ 18:57 < rxr> do you see discussion somewhere? 18:57 < mnemoc> nope 18:57 < mnemoc> but i could package it a send the patch to submaster :) 19:00 < valentin> mnemoc: lol 19:00 < rxr> please do something useful with your time 19:06 < CIA-2> aldas * r14906 /trunk/package/gnome14/bonobo10/ (bonobo-10.patch.disabled bonobo10.desc compile-fix.patch): 19:06 < CIA-2> * added bonobo10/compile-fix.patch 19:06 < CIA-2> * updated copyrights 19:07 < mnemoc> rxr: :) 19:15 < karasz> no, there is no way aout of this, i will surely puke 19:16 * karasz screaming and shouting and bangin head against the table 19:17 * karasz bangin head against the table with extreme force, and many times per second 19:18 < owl> karasz: ? 19:18 < rxr> karasz: ? 19:18 < rxr> karasz: we are with you, what happend ? 19:18 < karasz> i just hate guys eho ask on ./configure libdir just to use a hardcoded path from then on 19:19 < karasz> wth are they askin for libdir then? 19:19 < rxr> karasz: even more I hate people checking for fortran without needing it ... 19:19 < karasz> you know guys libdir does not allway mean /lib 19:19 < karasz> doh!!! 19:19 < rxr> karasz: many do not yet know .. 19:19 < rxr> karasz: auto* and libtool are junk, dung, crap, ... 19:20 < rxr> and most projects just cut'n paste from other already b0rked tarballs they have lingering around. 19:21 < karasz> you gave me /foo/bar ? then libdir is /foo/bar/lib 19:21 < karasz> and do that on a 7000 configure script on line 5000 my eyes are blind from reading 7000 lines of configure 19:24 < rxr> karasz: did I mention configure is ill = 19:24 < rxr> ? 19:24 < karasz> not yet 19:24 < karasz> but i am listening 19:27 < rxr> 19:19 < rxr> karasz: auto* and libtool are junk, dung, crap, ... 19:27 < rxr> karasz: what package are you on? 19:28 < karasz> pgadmin3 19:30 < karasz> so it built 19:30 < karasz> but now i do what? 19:30 < karasz> make a ln -s in conf 19:30 < karasz> or debug the goliath of configure? 19:31 < rxr> karasz: configure is generated from configure.in 19:31 < rxr> and that somestimes from configure.am ... 19:31 < rxr> those are easier to edit .. 19:31 < rxr> what is the problem? just cosmetical in the wrong dir? or does not start up ? 19:31 < karasz> does not build 19:31 < karasz> if i only have /lib64 19:32 < rxr> do we have the package or do you add it ? 19:32 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD51C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:32 < karasz> i add it if it will be ok 19:33 < karasz> it is a GUI for pgsql 19:33 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD51C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:34 < rxr> well I'm out of time today, had to drive around, manage a few things here and there .. 19:34 < rxr> tomorrow I could take a look 19:34 < karasz> nah 19:34 < rxr> maybe someone else has some free minutes to help you dig it down 19:34 < karasz> i really want to solve it myself 19:34 < rxr> what is the exact build error ? 19:34 < karasz> it cannot find some files 19:35 < mnemoc> tell it where to find them 19:35 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 19:35 < karasz> because it looks in /opt/postgresql/lib instead of lib64 19:35 < karasz> i tried 19:35 < karasz> but it won't listen ;) 19:35 < mnemoc> --with-psql-lib=$( pkgprefix libdir postgresql ) or something like that 19:35 < rxr> --with-postgresql= whatsoever ? 19:36 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:36 < karasz> mnemoc: that is ok 19:36 < karasz> it looks for the libs oance in the right place than second time drops my lib64 and looks in explicit lib 19:37 < rxr> karasz: patch the place to look expliclty into both, lib and lib64 for now if you want a easy going 19:37 < karasz> will that be accepted? 19:37 < rxr> as quickhack ... 19:37 < karasz> i mean is it a right solution? 19:37 < rxr> sometimes one has to patch ugly chunks in ugly configure scripts 19:37 < rxr> though I avoid that 19:39 < mnemoc> karasz: find where your --with-psql-lib is been stored, and change hardcoded stuff to use that variable 19:39 < karasz> hmm mnemoc i will try that 19:39 < karasz> if i not succeed i will just double the checks with lib64 19:57 < rxr> cool 19:58 < mnemoc> what is cool? 19:58 < rxr> my overly complex nea2dea.cc state machine transformer should work now 19:58 < rxr> (damn uni fluff) 19:58 < mnemoc> should work or work? :) 19:58 < rxr> works on my 2 test files ,-) 19:59 < mnemoc> :) 19:59 < rxr> I think I send it in (I'm the only one sending it in anyway) and close the case 19:59 < rxr> wc -l shows 126 lines ... 20:00 < mnemoc> :) 20:01 < mnemoc> state machine by request or by choice? 20:01 < rxr> ? 20:01 < rxr> did I mention I studiy computer design ? 20:01 * rxr really wonders why I have to do this kind of theory now and not before .. 20:02 < rxr> well, burocraty (or how it is spelled in english) 20:03 < mnemoc> :) 20:09 < rxr> never ever gonna survive - unless - you get a little crazy .... - la la la ... 20:10 < mnemoc> :) 20:10 < rxr> Alanis Morisette 20:11 < karasz> nope 20:11 < karasz> rxr you are wrong 20:11 < karasz> that is Seal ;) 20:11 < mnemoc> outch 20:12 < mnemoc> /ban karasz 20:12 * karasz banned 20:13 * karasz O.O 20:13 * karasz wonders why he got banned, that song is really sang by Seal... 20:13 < rxr> karasz: think Alanis covered it or so 20:14 < karasz> i dunno, maybe, i am not listening very much Morisette theese days.. 20:14 < mnemoc> karasz: you can't refute what great master ober guru rene say 20:14 < mnemoc> full stop 20:15 * karasz hides in his own shame 20:15 < karasz> forgive me great master ober guru for questioning your words 20:17 < mnemoc> it seems great master ober guru have not forgive your insolence 20:17 * mnemoc prepare his sword 20:17 < rxr> 20:14 < karasz> i dunno, maybe, i am not listening very much Morisette theese 20:18 < rxr> ^- karasz getting old ? 20:18 * karasz takes his sight to the grounfd awaiting the sword 20:18 * mnemoc look to great master ober guru rebe for his sign 20:18 < karasz> rxr yup 20:18 < jsaw> re 20:18 < karasz> i am old 20:18 < karasz> and i eat words 20:19 * mnemoc looks again waiting for a sign of mercy 20:19 < jsaw> price question, what's wrong here: 20:19 < jsaw> lib_search_path=`$echo "$lib_search_path " | ${SED} -e 's% $path % %g'` 20:19 < jsaw> ? 20:19 < mnemoc> sorry karasz 20:20 < karasz> mnemoc: get on with it, no mercy for me 20:20 < LMJ> hello back 20:20 < mnemoc> bye bye karasz 20:20 < mnemoc> *swaf* 20:21 -!- karasz is now known as headless_karasz 20:22 < headless_karasz> mnemoc: you should sharpen that sword of yours 20:22 < headless_karasz> do not torture people like that... 20:22 < mnemoc> i'm not used to cut heads with it 20:23 < rxr> jsaw: /me doing the clothes - otherwise I would take a look 20:23 < mnemoc> just to clean the sh* out of my shoes 20:23 < jsaw> rxr: quotes after sed 20:24 < jsaw> rxr: this is from libtool... 20:24 < headless_karasz> poor karasz, no dignity even in his death ... :'( 20:24 < jsaw> rxr: part of the problem leading to wrong paths 20:25 * misl wonders if he is in the wrong channel 20:25 < misl> hammer house of horror in here 20:26 < misl> people chopping of heads 20:26 < jsaw> rxr: are all parse-config files always read during build? 20:26 < misl> headless poeple talking 20:26 < misl> and most of all 20:26 < misl> ... 20:26 < misl> LIBTOOL 20:27 < jsaw> ? 20:27 < jsaw> misl is in the hot kitchen... 20:28 < rxr> jsaw: oehm 20:28 * misl going crazy 20:28 < rxr> wow - that 128kB mp3 is actually the first one escaped a windows box that sounds good ... 20:30 < headless_karasz> mnemoc: i nust have a head back, should i choose from the three on my desk? 20:30 < mnemoc> headless_karasz: was the girl cute? 20:30 < headless_karasz> the virtual looks good 20:30 < headless_karasz> nope, not that cute 20:30 < headless_karasz> i was goin for the virtual one 20:31 -!- headless_karasz is now known as v_karasz 20:31 < mnemoc> what's wrong with been headless? 20:31 < v_karasz> how does it look like? 20:31 < mnemoc> sexy 20:31 < v_karasz> i cannot drink coffe 20:31 < mnemoc> direct to the vein 20:31 < v_karasz> if i have no head... ^^ 20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: query 20:34 -!- v_karasz is now known as karasz 20:35 < karasz> i am from the far east, here people tend to not die even if they get their head chopped off 20:35 < karasz> it grows back ;) 20:38 < rxr> karasz: heh 20:39 < rxr> Hello Drakula? 20:39 < karasz> yup 20:39 < karasz> 100km from my house ;D 20:39 -!- sparc-kl1 [n=sparc-kl@64.237.250.95] has joined #t2 20:41 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD51C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:47 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD51C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:59 -!- sparc-kly [n=sparc-kl@64.237.255.7] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:10 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE57A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 21:10 < morfoh> re hi * ;) 21:11 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 21:12 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :) 21:23 * misl goes to bed 21:23 < misl> sleep well all 21:23 < owl> gn8 21:23 < mnemoc> gn8 misl 21:23 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 21:23 < mnemoc> hi owlinette 21:29 < mnemoc> owl, how are your birds? 21:31 < Baldzius> birds can be dangerous .. they can have flu :) 21:32 < mnemoc> not at chile :) 21:32 < Baldzius> in short - exploit :) 21:32 < mnemoc> hehe 21:33 < Baldzius> mnemoc: birds have wings and they can fly , don't you know? :)))) 21:33 < Baldzius> i wonder , penguins can have bird flu or not? :) 21:34 < mnemoc> tux doesn't fly 21:34 < mnemoc> uh 21:34 < mnemoc> good question 21:41 < rxr> re 21:42 < morfoh> I think, the whole bird flu issue is a "hoax" 21:42 < morfoh> wb rxr 21:43 < mnemoc> paranoia-boy 21:43 < mnemoc> wb rxr 21:43 < mnemoc> the 'conspiracy' doesn't exist 21:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: pffff ... I've no paranoia ... and you're right "the conspiracy" doesn't exist! 21:45 < valentin> morfoh: there is some guy in the internet who claims aids is a hoax 21:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: but you can't deny the existence of "conspiracies" 21:46 < valentin> however, i guess those who have bird flu do not find this hoax too funny 21:46 < CIA-2> aldas * r14907 /trunk/package/editors/lyx/lyx.desc: * updated lyx (1.3.6 -> 1.3.7) 21:46 < morfoh> valentin: of course nobody is happy while suffering 21:47 < valentin> morfoh: yes, but most conspiracies incorporating more than 10 ppl do not live long uncovered 21:48 < valentin> there are many groups of people doing nasty stuff for sure, but i do not believe in a "world conspiracy" where thousands of bad guys are involved 21:48 < morfoh> valentin: I don't know your source of knowledge to make such statement, and in fact I cannot tell you much about it 21:48 * morfoh didn't wanted a discussion about this topic 21:50 < valentin> watergate, schweinebucht, tomkin afair, iran contras, cia involvement in some countries ... discovered 21:50 < valentin> you started it :-) 21:51 < morfoh> valentin: no! the one you started to write about conspiracy is very quiet atm :) 21:51 < valentin> ok 21:52 < morfoh> sorry :) 21:52 < valentin> so - pssst. if we talk too much, "they" might notice 21:55 < morfoh> valentin: didn't we agree that "they" don't exist ? but I'm quite sure that it's not that hard to analyze irc logs for some people :) 21:58 < rxr> you are all crazy ... 21:58 < rxr> 20:09 < rxr> never ever gonna survive - unless - you get a little crazy .... - la la la ... 22:01 < mnemoc> :) 22:12 < karasz> i am crazy too 22:12 < karasz> but i finished pgAdmin 22:12 < karasz> so it was worth it ... 22:14 < mnemoc> :D 22:14 < mnemoc> congratulations 22:21 < rxr> karasz: ,-) 22:21 < rxr> n8 all 22:21 < rxr> cu tomorrow 22:23 < karasz> cu rxr 22:23 < karasz> mnemoc: 2 mails to ML 22:23 < karasz> 1. DownloadTranslation for ftp.postgresq.org 22:24 < karasz> 2. added pgAdmin3 22:24 < mnemoc> opt/pgadmin3 ? 22:24 < karasz> yes 22:24 < mnemoc> you really need to set every --with-pgsql-foo? 22:24 < karasz> i didn't wanted it to use /opt/postgresql/bin 22:25 < karasz> almost 22:25 < mnemoc> libexecdir doesn't exist 22:25 < karasz> anyway i will add a revision to it 22:25 < mnemoc> :) 22:25 < mnemoc> try to keep it as reduced as possible 22:25 < karasz> because foo pgAdmin cannot find pgsql binaries so it canot make dump-restore yet 22:26 < karasz> i will reduce as much as possible 22:26 < karasz> but tomorrow 22:26 < karasz> today it works, it can be emerged so i'll go to eat (lunch) and sleep 22:27 < karasz> and i will sleep mumbeling unreproductible words to a certain core developer 22:27 < karasz> >:-) 22:28 < karasz> about the revision... 22:28 < karasz> how should i make it? 22:28 < karasz> just edit my files and send another diff like the one before? 22:29 < karasz> mnemoc: ? 22:30 < karasz> i guess the best is not to ad the package to trunk untill i resolve those issues 22:31 < mnemoc> re 22:31 < mnemoc> yes :) 22:33 < karasz> oki 22:33 < karasz> what about the translation? 22:34 < karasz> pgadmin3 is not on T2 mirrors so it must use original location which fails because ftp.postgresql.org does not allow downloads 22:36 < karasz> cu 22:36 < karasz> i am too tired to wait 22:38 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD51C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn8"] 22:45 < CIA-2> amery * r14908 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: 22:45 < CIA-2> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 22:45 < CIA-2> * translated downloads from postgresql.org to use the american mirror, they don't accept direct downloads now 22:47 < mnemoc> karasz: ----^ 22:58 < karasz> seems i cannot stay away untill i finish this 22:58 < karasz> mnemoc: something like export PATH=$PATH:$(pkgprefix bindir postgresql) makes sense on a .conf file? 22:59 < mnemoc> ehm 22:59 < karasz> pgadmin3 needs pg_dump in the path or beside himself 23:00 < mnemoc> export PATH at .conf only affect build time 23:00 < karasz> at least on my system root has not /opt/postgresql/bin in the path 23:00 < karasz> feared so 23:00 < mnemoc> relogin :) 23:00 < mnemoc> /opt/*/bin are added to your PATH by /etc/profile 23:00 < karasz> so i should drop that issue? 23:00 < mnemoc> at login 23:00 < mnemoc> i think so 23:01 < mnemoc> test :) 23:01 < karasz> propper name for the patch? configure_use_arch.path? 23:01 < karasz> s/path/patch 23:01 < mnemoc> sounds ok 23:01 < karasz> oki 23:02 < karasz> svn diff now ;) 23:02 < mnemoc> i'm not the best namer anyway 23:02 < karasz> better than configure.patch anyway 23:02 < mnemoc> in fact i even made a typo when i registered my second daughter :( 23:02 * mnemoc ashamed 23:05 < karasz> things like that happen, no reason to be ashamed ;) 23:05 < karasz> new pgAdmin3 hit the ML 23:06 < karasz> tidyer than ever.... 23:06 < karasz> finaly i deserve my food, and my sleep 23:06 < karasz> and another passed class i guess ? :D 23:07 < karasz> hmm the only thing i miss is that i couldn't add the admin features to pgAdmin3, but anyway who use them...? 23:08 < karasz> now really away 23:08 < karasz> cu tomorow, or when i get up ;) 23:09 < mnemoc> cu :) 23:12 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:18 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 23:28 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:35 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 --- Log closed Thu Jan 19 00:00:43 2006