--- Log opened Mon Jan 16 00:00:24 2006 01:03 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-31-132.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 02:04 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-31-132.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 03:53 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF9C53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:09 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF94F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:18 -!- netrunner [n=andreas@anvame.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:20 -!- netrunner [n=andreas@anvame.net] has joined #t2 05:26 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 08:38 -!- sparc-kl1 [n=mubex@64.237.241.1] has joined #t2 08:50 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.88] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:02 < valentin> moin 09:43 < karasz> moin all 09:52 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:55 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 10:28 < CIA-8> pfister * r14841 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: New menu structure -- more submenus 10:29 < CIA-8> pfister * r14842 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (vnc-disable.sh vnc-enable.sh vnc-viewer.sh): VNC remote access modified -- enabling/disabling/starting other box 11:11 < morfoh> moin karasz, valentin 11:11 < morfoh> moin * 11:15 < mtr> moin morfoh 11:17 < karasz> hello guys 11:17 < karasz> i finaly hacked evolution-data-server to build on stable and x86-64 :) 11:18 < jsaw> re 11:18 < karasz> oh, oh, komrad morfoh :) 11:18 < jsaw> karasz: how? 11:18 < karasz> moin jsaw 11:18 < jsaw> hi karasz :) 11:18 < karasz> 1. made a sumlink .opt/openldap/lib64 -> /opt/openldap/lib 11:19 < karasz> 2. marked evolution-data-server FPIC-QUIRK 11:19 < jsaw> ah ok, workaround... 11:19 < mtr> hi jsaw, karasz 11:19 < karasz> what is wrong with mozilla? 11:19 < jsaw> ? 11:19 < karasz> allways download fails... 11:20 < jsaw> mozilla etal are imo not 64bit clean 11:20 < karasz> ? 11:20 < rxr> re 11:20 < karasz> moin rxr 11:20 < morfoh> moin mtr :) 11:20 < rxr> jsaw: in the past mozilla worked on my x86-64 .. 11:20 < karasz> oh, oh, komrad morfoh :) 11:20 < jsaw> hi rxr, morfoh 11:20 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.102.148] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:20 < morfoh> hi jsaw :) 11:20 < mtr> moin rxr 11:20 < jsaw> rxr: it works, yes, but... not 100% stable 11:21 < morfoh> moin rxr 11:21 < morfoh> moin karasz-san ... hey :) 11:21 < jsaw> rxr: or maybe I should say, not as stable as I was used to it on 32bit 11:21 < LMJ> Good morning the chan 11:21 < rxr> moin LMJ 11:21 < jsaw> hi LMJ 11:22 < jsaw> 2115 builds total, 1877 completed fine, 238 with errors. 11:22 < morfoh> bonjour LMJ 11:22 < jsaw> generic/x86-64 11:22 < karasz> jsaw.. i am only interested in mozilla because download fails 11:23 < karasz> i guess it should be fixed... 11:23 < jsaw> does the download always fail? 11:23 < jsaw> is /tmp world writable? 11:24 < jsaw> enough space on /tmp? 11:24 < karasz> yes 11:24 < karasz> all is ok 11:24 < karasz> anything else works 11:24 < karasz> download allways fails... 11:24 < jsaw> hmm, then, ... rtfc and correct it ;) 11:25 < karasz> and i guess axion had the same problem some time ago 11:25 < karasz> and rtfc=? 11:25 < jsaw> read the f* code 11:27 < karasz> on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de mozilla source is 1 MB... 11:27 < jsaw> sorry, should have been RTFS... ;) 11:27 < karasz> i don't think that is right 11:27 < karasz> jsaw 11:27 < karasz> on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de mozilla source is 1 MB... 11:27 < karasz> i don't think that is right 11:27 < jsaw> 30446836 bytes here 11:27 < karasz> i verified now 11:27 < LMJ> hello rxr, jsaw and morfoh 11:28 < karasz> on gsmp.tfh-berlin.de mozilla source is 1 MB 11:28 < LMJ> and karasz 11:28 < karasz> hello SerWou 11:28 < karasz> [ ] mozilla-1.7.11-sourc..> 04-Jan-2006 15:45 1.0M 11:29 < jsaw> o.O 11:29 < karasz> i cannot fix that... 11:29 < karasz> :D 11:29 < jsaw> karasz: path? 11:30 < karasz> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.1/m/ 11:31 < jsaw> bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; 11:31 < jsaw> perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. 11:31 < jsaw> rxr: --^ 11:32 < rxr> jsaw: some download oddity .. 11:32 < rxr> download from upstrea 11:32 * rxr regrabbing ... 11:32 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/articles/06/01/16/1052209.shtml 11:33 < rxr> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03171#0 11:33 < karasz> jsaw 11:34 < jsaw> karasz: ? 11:34 < karasz> can you patch evolution-data-server? 11:34 < karasz> someone may need it... 11:35 < jsaw> karasz: I'm currently trying to find all configure scripts that use wrong hardcoded */lib paths. 11:35 < jsaw> karasz: so, yes, sooner or later... 11:35 < jsaw> rxr: oh, tippfehler im ersten Satz machen sich nicht gut... 11:36 < jsaw> rxr: (symlink) 11:36 < karasz> morfoh, have you 1 min? 11:37 < rxr> jsaw: ouhm - which one ? 11:37 < rxr> scha_ff_T ? 11:37 < jsaw> yep 11:37 < rxr> anyway, news at all 11:38 < jsaw> yeah, you're right 11:38 < karasz> btw is some way to mark packages not available for some architecture? 11:38 < rxr> [R] +- arches 11:38 < karasz> because vlc should be marked not available for x86-64 11:39 < rxr> vlc ? 11:39 < rxr> you mean due mmx assembly ß 11:39 < rxr> ? 11:39 < rxr> nah - let me fix that 11:52 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14843 /trunk/package/gnome14/ee03/ee03.desc: * LIBTOOL-QUIRK candidate 11:54 -!- raamcm [n=root@59.145.141.50] has joined #t2 11:54 < raamcm> Hi guys 11:54 < raamcm> I am newbie in T2 project 11:55 < jsaw> hi raamcm 11:55 < raamcm> Just now only i got info about this project 11:55 < karasz> hello raamcm 11:55 < jsaw> rxr: welcome :) 11:55 < raamcm> hi jsaw 11:55 < jsaw> uups 11:55 < jsaw> raamcm: welcome ;) 11:55 < raamcm> call me raam 11:55 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14844 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in: * chmod got confused here, so, omit the asterisk, it's anyway recursive 11:56 < jsaw> raamcm: auto-completion 11:56 < raamcm> jsaw i need some info 11:56 < raamcm> oh great :-) 11:56 < jsaw> go on, ask 11:57 < raamcm> in my project purpose i need linux distro 11:57 < raamcm> our own linux distro 11:57 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14845 /trunk/package/network/dhcpcd/dhcpcd.desc: * AUTOMAKE-QUIRK candidate 11:57 < raamcm> that' very small also 11:57 < raamcm> in disk usage is include 100mb 11:57 < jsaw> raamcm: maybe you want to checkout the wrt2 target...? 11:57 < jsaw> raamcm: or embedded 11:58 < raamcm> not embedded 11:58 < raamcm> i need only generic linux 11:58 < raamcm> without X stuff 11:58 < jsaw> raamcm: ah, then you use target "generic" and the package selection "minimal" 11:59 < karasz> then minimal target should be for you raamcm :) 11:59 < morfoh> jsaw: btw, wrt2 is still experimental and just intendend to work as wireless router/AP ;) 11:59 < morfoh> hi raamcm 11:59 < morfoh> karasz: ? 11:59 < raamcm> hi guys 11:59 < karasz> morfoh, i would like to fiddle with vserver 11:59 < raamcm> but how to select the minimal option 12:00 < karasz> 2.1 stable here now ;) 12:00 < raamcm> just 10 min back i saw the projedct 12:00 < raamcm> soory for spelling mistake 12:00 < karasz> raamcm, select generic and after that on package selection minimal 12:00 < owl> moin 12:00 < raamcm> oh again sorry 12:00 < jsaw> hi owlita 12:00 < raamcm> ok 12:00 < karasz> hi owlita 12:00 < morfoh> moin owl :) 12:00 < jsaw> :) 12:01 < owl> hi jsaw , karasz , morfoh ;) 12:01 < karasz> raamcm, you should read gettin started from http://www.t2-project.org 12:01 < raamcm> ok 12:01 < raamcm> I read it 12:02 < raamcm> yeah i select the generic and i gave minimal option 12:02 < raamcm> but it's going 4 router option 12:03 < karasz> ? 12:03 < karasz> raamcm, are you on trunk? 12:03 < raamcm> wht 12:03 < karasz> how did you svn? 12:03 < raamcm> no i download in tar file 12:04 < karasz> which one? 12:04 < rxr> release tarball .. 12:04 < karasz> version please... 12:04 < raamcm> t2-2.1.1.1.tar.bz2 12:04 < rxr> raamcm: what router option do you talk about ? 12:05 < rxr> select generic with minimal package seleciton should give you a few active packages to build 12:05 < raamcm> no when i give minimal option 12:05 < raamcm> ok 12:05 < rxr> the active package count is on the top 12:05 < rxr> of the Config tool 12:05 < raamcm> ok cool 12:06 < raamcm> yeah now i gave " ./scripts/Download -cfg system -required" comment 12:06 < raamcm> some packages are now downloading 12:07 < rxr> good 12:07 < rxr> raamcm: you want to build from source? there is a minimal-desktop or so for download ... 12:07 < raamcm> How much time to take build the project 12:07 < raamcm> hmm 12:07 < rxr> raamcm: what hardware ? 12:08 < raamcm> generic 12:08 < rxr> no - i mean silicon 12:08 < rxr> CPU and such .. 12:08 < rxr> to estimate the build time for you ... 12:09 < raamcm> wht r u mentioning my cpu speed 12:09 < rxr> 12:07 < raamcm> How much time to take build the project 12:09 < rxr> you wanted to know how long it build take to build it 12:10 < raamcm> hmmm :-) 12:10 < karasz> rxr i am investigating libdnet which fails on x86064 12:10 < rxr> netrunner: btw. what came to my mind last night before I felt to sleep, the difference in the ROCK Linux and T2 development is, that your patches on submaster just get "this and this sucks, go fix", on T2 I applied those patches and even fixed the few tiny things myself ... 12:11 < rxr> raamcm: on a fast Athlon* it takes half a day or so to build the minimal ... 12:12 < raamcm> half day ...? 12:12 < raamcm> :-( 12:12 < rxr> raamcm: it compiles a lot of stuff, compiler C library, kernel, ... 12:12 < rxr> raamcm: what did you expect ? 12:13 < rxr> jsaw: ifswitch [ interface profile ] | [ profile ] 12:13 < raamcm> i thought it's take some half hour 12:13 < rxr> raamcm: have you ever compiled a linux kernel ? 12:14 < raamcm> yeah already i did 12:14 < rxr> I suggest you grab the prebuilt ISO in your case ... - you appear to be too impationed to await the build ,-) 12:14 < raamcm> no rxr :-( 12:14 < raamcm> i need my own stuff 12:15 < raamcm> actually include this stuff in thttpd,php,mysql,asterisk,perl 12:15 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.97.53] has joined #t2 12:15 < Baldzius> moin 12:15 < rxr> moin Baldzius 12:15 < jsaw> rxr: ? ifswitch ? 12:15 < raamcm> that's wat 12:15 < rxr> raamcm: ,-) then have fun building .. 12:15 < karasz> hello master updater ;) 12:16 < raamcm> ok 12:16 < Baldzius> hi karasz, rxr :) 12:16 < rxr> jsaw: if{down,up} companion to quick switch network profile ? 12:16 < rxr> jsaw: that I just protype ... 12:16 < jsaw> rxr: oh, nice !!! 12:16 < raamcm> how can i include in wanted packages 12:16 < Baldzius> hi jsaw 12:17 < rxr> raamcm: package selection 12:17 < rxr> raamcm: enable the export options 12:17 < rxr> enable custom package selection 12:17 < rxr> and add, e.g. 12:17 < raamcm> ok 12:17 < rxr> X asterisk 12:17 < rxr> X ... 12:17 < rxr> those are pattern rules, X xorg/* would enable all of the xorg/ repository and so on 12:18 < rxr> the handbook has some details 12:18 < rxr> or just ask 12:18 < raamcm> hmm 12:18 < raamcm> yeah just now i download in handbook pdf 12:20 < raamcm> ok tellme about some good experience in this project 12:20 < raamcm> i like very much 12:20 < karasz> raamcm, ? 12:21 < raamcm> some good feature 12:21 < raamcm> and diff between other linux build project's 12:22 < rxr> raamcm: well, the build system as it 12:23 < raamcm> ok 12:23 < raamcm> i got it 12:23 < raamcm> This is not a general chat 12:24 < jsaw> hi Baldzius 12:25 < raamcm> rxr download is complete 12:25 < raamcm> wht i do now? 12:26 < jsaw> raamcm: well it is a general chat, but we're mostly busy working... so answers maybe a bit short. But when you ask more specific questions... 12:26 < Baldzius> jsaw: could you do me a favour? try to compile gtk-sharp2 and tell me what failure is related to, as i compiled that package 2-3 months ago with no problem 12:26 < raamcm> can i give this comment ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg system 12:26 < jsaw> raamcm: yes 12:26 < jsaw> Baldzius: I can't, because mono failed here on x86-64 12:26 < Baldzius> jsaw: :( 12:30 < raamcm> ok jsaw 12:31 < karasz> guys libdnet needs python? 12:33 < rxr> so - was phoning .. 12:34 < rxr> raamcm: the build system and extraordinary clean packages are cool 12:34 < rxr> raamcm: then the defines of the build in targets and last but not least all the supported architectures ... 12:34 < rxr> are the biggest features off hand 12:36 < raamcm> Oh is't 12:36 < rxr> # ifswitch eth1 home 12:36 < rxr> Deactivating current interfaces ... 12:36 < rxr> Interface / profile matched: eth1(susan) 12:36 < rxr> Activating specified profile/interfaces ... 12:36 < rxr> Interface / profile matched: eth1(home) 12:36 < raamcm> yeah that's stuff i want 12:36 < rxr> jsaw: I check this few lines script in ... 12:36 < rxr> improvements welcome ... 12:36 < raamcm> which arch based this project 12:37 < raamcm> debian or someother 12:37 < valentin> rxr: ifswitch == ifdown $current ; ifup $1 ? 12:37 < jsaw> raamcm: what do you mean with arch based? 12:37 < valentin> hi rxr btw 12:37 < karasz> rxr evolution-data-server needs 2 things to build on stable 12:37 < raamcm> sorry package base 12:38 < jsaw> raamcm: it's not based or anything like that on a major distro 12:38 < raamcm> ohh 12:38 < rxr> valentin: yep 12:38 < karasz> 1. made a symlink .opt/openldap/lib -> /opt/openldap/lib64 12:38 < rxr> valentin: though iterating over all active 12:38 < karasz> and marked FPIC-QUIRK 12:38 < jsaw> raamcm: we're mostly independant 12:38 < valentin> rxr: sure 12:38 < raamcm> oh yeah 12:39 < raamcm> :) 12:39 < jsaw> raamcm: if you want a package we do not have, you can easily add it, though 12:39 < raamcm> ok 12:39 < jsaw> or ask somebody to add it ;) 12:40 < raamcm> add mean 12:40 < jsaw> "add" in the sense of adding it to the build system 12:41 < jsaw> a valid package description 12:41 < raamcm> ok 12:41 < raamcm> that comment is finished 12:41 < raamcm> i give now ./scripts/Config -cfg bootdisc 12:41 < raamcm> can i do 12:42 < karasz> raamcm, that was a command not a comment ;) 12:42 < karasz> and yes you must do bootdisk too 12:42 < raamcm> oh 12:42 < raamcm> :-) 12:42 < raamcm> lol 12:42 < raamcm> sorry 12:42 < CIA-8> rene * r14846 /trunk/package/network/rocknet/ (ifswitch.sh rocknet.conf): * added ifswitch [ interface profile ] | [ profile ], a rocknet fast profile switcher 12:42 < raamcm> oh shit they some error 12:43 < karasz> error? 12:43 < raamcm> /home/root/t2-2.1.1.1/build/system-2.1.1.1-x86-generic/usr/include/bits/local_lim.h:36:26: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory 12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1 12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... 12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: *** [crtbeginS.o] Error 1 12:43 < raamcm> rm gcc.pod 12:43 < rxr> raamcm: you only need the bootdisk target if you want a bootable, installable cd 12:43 < raamcm> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/root/t2-2.1.1.1/src.gcc.system.20060116.180436.32506.linux.internal.net/gcc-3.4.4/objdir/gcc' 12:43 < raamcm> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 12:43 < raamcm> Due to previous errors, no 0-gcc.log file! 12:43 < raamcm> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to tra 12:43 < rxr> raamcm: also T2 2.2 will not need the 2nd bootdisk thing anymore .. 12:44 < raamcm> ok 12:44 < rxr> raamcm: when this basic stuff does not build, your system lacks development headers .. 12:44 < raamcm> wht this error 12:44 < raamcm> that mean 12:44 < rxr> raamcm: your system compiler can not produce executbles for advanced stuff 12:44 < karasz> what is your host system? 12:44 < rxr> some -devel packages are missing (most probably) 12:44 < raamcm> rhel 4 12:44 < karasz> :( 12:45 < raamcm> tell me which pacakeges i need install 12:45 < raamcm> forgive my spelling mistake 12:45 < karasz> try a ./scripts/Check-Config 12:46 < raamcm> they no such file ERROR 12:46 < rxr> karasz: Check-System is part of Build-Target ... 12:46 < karasz> ok, sorry 12:46 < rxr> raamcm: we do not know foreign distributions specifica off hand 12:46 < rxr> raamcm: most probably linux-header or so 12:46 < raamcm> so wht i do now 12:47 < karasz> try to read the error log 12:47 < karasz> it should be in the build directory 12:47 < rxr> raamcm: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory 12:47 < rxr> raamcm: you need that file - mostly part of linux-header or so ... 12:48 < rxr> raamcm: when you do not want to make your host system compiler friendly, best is to install a prebuild T2 minimal ... 12:48 < karasz> so you need to install linux-header.rpm 12:48 < rxr> jsaw: should we add some more diagnostics to Check-System ? 12:49 < raamcm> ok 12:49 < raamcm> linux-header rpm 12:49 < raamcm> where to i get 12:50 < karasz> on rhel distribution site 12:50 < raamcm> ru mean kernel-headers 12:50 < rxr> or install cd 12:51 < karasz> yup 12:51 < karasz> kernel-headers 12:51 < rxr> heh 12:51 < rxr> yeah 12:51 < raamcm> OK 12:52 < raamcm> now i search the cd and Repos also 12:52 < karasz> you must have it on cd iirc 12:53 < karasz> also it should be same version as your kernel 12:53 < raamcm> ok 12:53 < jsaw> rxr: where's the linux/limits.h file used? 12:53 < rxr> what was the error ? 0-gcc ? 12:53 < karasz> iirc 12:54 < jsaw> oh, PATH_MAX... 12:54 < karasz> raamcm Due to previous errors, no 0-gcc.log file! 12:54 < raamcm> i did't any error 12:54 < raamcm> this only 12:55 < CIA-8> rene * r14847 /trunk/package/multimedia/libmpeg2/libmpeg2.desc: * libmpeg2 misses -fPIC, added FPIC-QUIRK 12:57 < raamcm> my kernel version is 2.6.9-22.0.1.EL 12:59 < rxr> karasz: strange that vlc did not fail on libmpeg2 on your side ... 13:00 < karasz> it failed 13:00 < karasz> i aded fpic 13:00 < karasz> and post it on irc 13:01 < karasz> iirc ;) 13:05 < raamcm> sorry i can't get kernle-headers rpm 13:06 < raamcm> sorry kernel-headers rpm 13:07 < raamcm> wht i do now 13:07 < raamcm> :-( 13:09 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 13:09 < sepp> moin :) 13:09 < raamcm> rxr ru there 13:10 < morfoh> moin sepp :) 13:10 < sepp> hi morfoh 13:11 < rxr> raamcm: can you post the full .err file somewhere? 13:11 < raamcm> no 13:11 < rxr> the kernel header / linux header for rhel4 must be somewhere 13:11 < raamcm> which error file 13:12 < raamcm> hmm 13:12 < sepp> maybe ask rpm.pbone.net 13:14 < raamcm> yeah i serach it 13:19 < raamcm> no i did't get 13:20 < raamcm> plz guys tell me some other solution 13:24 < raamcm> :-( 13:25 < jsaw> raamcm: maybe edit misc/tools-source/fl_wrapper.c.sh ... 13:26 < jsaw> raamcm: I'm not sure, if it is in your version, but you can remove this: 13:26 < jsaw> #ifndef PATH_MAX 13:26 < jsaw> #include 13:26 < jsaw> #endif 13:27 < raamcm> ok 13:28 < raamcm> can i add this 3 lines 13:29 < jsaw> oh, you don't have these? 13:29 < raamcm> no 13:29 < jsaw> ah, I obviously missed some lines 13:29 < jsaw> raamcm: no, the point is, that you don't have linux/limits.h 13:29 < jsaw> raamcm: but it is required somewhere during build. 13:30 < raamcm> wait 4 five minutes 13:31 < jsaw> but I'm diverted by my "normal" work... 13:33 < rxr> == 14:12:32 =[9]=> Building multimedia/vlc [0.8.4a 2.2.0-alpha]. 13:33 < rxr> == 01/16/06 14:21:01 =[9]=> Finished building package vlc. 13:33 < rxr> karasz: -^ x86-64, what was your compile error ? 13:38 < karasz> rxr sorry i ran out for a bit 13:38 < karasz> what compile error? 13:39 < karasz> ah vlc? 13:39 < karasz> moment 13:40 < karasz> http://karasz.pastebin.ca/36010 13:41 < karasz> btw 13:41 < karasz> libdnet needs python !!! 13:41 < rxr> strange 13:41 < rxr> you are on 2.1 right ? 13:41 < karasz> yes 13:42 < karasz> it complained abt not finding glob or some 13:42 < raamcm> i am back 13:42 < karasz> installed python then builds fine 13:42 < raamcm> jsaw what i do now 13:42 < rxr> guess that is fixed in the newer vlc .. 13:42 < rxr> -[V] 0.8.4a 13:42 < rxr> +[V] 0.8.2 13:42 < raamcm> can i add these 3 lines 13:43 < rxr> karasz: can you try building with the new vlc on 2.1 ? 13:43 < karasz> rxr vlc was helpfull or you need a complete err? 13:43 < karasz> yup 13:43 < karasz> right now 13:43 < rxr> karasz: it bilt here .. 13:43 < rxr> guess they fixed the mmx related assembly stuff for x86-64 13:43 < karasz> new vlc? 13:43 < rxr> or disabled it - whatever .. 13:43 < rxr> 13:42 < rxr> -[V] 0.8.4a 13:43 < rxr> 13:42 < rxr> +[V] 0.8.2 13:43 < rxr> trunk vs. 2.1 ... 13:43 < karasz> they did some x86-64 related stuff on 0.8.4a iirc 13:44 < rxr> karasz: whatever 13:44 < rxr> it built here .. 13:44 < rxr> (fater I marked libmpeg2 FPIC-QUIRK0 13:44 < karasz> should i change desc on my 2.1 pack? 13:44 < rxr> ) 13:44 < rxr> karasz: yes 13:44 < rxr> if it builds I would commit this update to 2.1 ... 13:44 < karasz> ok 13:44 < karasz> and i schedule a libmpeg2 with fpic 13:45 < karasz> ok 13:49 < raamcm> :-( 13:50 < raamcm> rxr ru busy 13:50 < rxr> raamcm: yes, mostly 13:51 < raamcm> tell me some remedy 13:51 < sepp> raamcm: there is a rpm install gui and iirc it say "kernel development" at the bottom - i bet there you find kernel headers 13:52 < raamcm> tell me exacatly 13:53 < sepp> well, thats all i know about rh 13:59 < raamcm> can i with debian 3.1 13:59 < raamcm> that's will work with this project..? 14:00 < rxr> raamcm: all linux distributions are usable to build t2 14:00 < rxr> you just need a working compiler and some basic utilities 14:00 < rxr> Check-System checks for most of those ... 14:01 < rxr> debian should work 14:01 < rxr> but you could download and install a T2 minimal to get least trouble possible ... 14:02 < raamcm> ok 14:03 < raamcm> where to i get in minimal 14:03 < raamcm> in my pc is athlan 14:04 < raamcm> i saw only in p4 spec 14:05 < sepp> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.1/t2-minimal-2.1.1-pmmx/ 14:05 < sepp> for > pentium with mmx 14:05 < raamcm> ok 14:10 < karasz> rxr what about vlc dependencies? 14:10 < karasz> will 84 do with 82 deps? 14:12 < karasz> rxr i got to go now but i will keep you posted about vlc 14:13 < rxr> karasz: ye 14:13 < rxr> karasz: ok - cu 14:15 < morfoh> rxr: can you give me a short status of the livecd ? 14:15 < morfoh> rxr: sth. to think about if I want to build a livecd ? 14:28 < mnemoc> moin 14:28 < sepp> hi mnemoc 14:29 < morfoh> moin mnemoc 14:29 < mnemoc> hi sepp, morfoh, rxr 14:29 < valentin> hi mnemoc 14:30 < valentin> whos president ? 14:30 < valentin> think the women made it 14:30 < morfoh> valentin: the women 14:30 < valentin> woman 14:30 < valentin> hi morfoh 14:30 < morfoh> valentin: sorry ... hi :) 14:30 < mnemoc> yes, 53 vs. 47 14:30 < mipe> president for what country? 14:30 < valentin> guess... 14:31 < mipe> (we had president elections also) 14:31 < mnemoc> "we showed the world how modern we are by choosing a woman for president" 14:31 < valentin> mipe: ah - yes 14:31 < sepp> mnemoc: do you paint thumbs at election day? 14:31 < mnemoc> yes 14:31 < sepp> ohh 14:31 < jsaw> cu later 14:31 < valentin> hi and cu jsaw 14:31 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 14:31 < morfoh> cu jsaw 14:31 < sepp> i saw that woman with a blue thumb on bbc ... 14:32 < valentin> mnemoc: can't you just somehow get rid of that paint and revote ? 14:32 < mnemoc> no, because you sign on your space at a book 14:33 < mnemoc> that's why you can't vote on a place different that where you are registred 14:41 < valentin> mnemoc: so why the paint at all ? 14:41 < mnemoc> legacy :p 14:42 < mnemoc> analphabets 'sign' using the stamp of their thumb 14:42 < valentin> how do they vote ? do you have photos on the bill ? 14:42 < valentin> or signs ? 14:43 < mnemoc> 1. ---- valentin 14:43 < mnemoc> 2. ------ sepp 14:43 < mnemoc> analphabets can recognize numbers 14:43 < mnemoc> before most people was analphabet, and on my desk (for example) i have only 2 of 350 14:43 < valentin> ok, having two candidates this is easy :) 14:43 < rxr> re 14:43 < rxr> moin mnemoc ! 14:43 < mnemoc> yep :) 14:43 < mnemoc> moin rxr :) 14:44 < mnemoc> valentin: votes with more people are grouped by aliance with the logo 14:44 < mnemoc> and numbered inside their own aliances 14:46 < rxr> valentin: at home ? 14:46 < valentin> nope 14:46 * rxr next coffee 14:47 < valentin> had a quite strong coffee 30 minutes before *shivering* 14:49 < CIA-8> rene * r14848 /trunk/package/network/rocknet/ifswitch.sh: 14:49 < CIA-8> * fixed rocknet/ifswitch to work after reboot when the active-interfaces 14:49 < CIA-8> file does not exist 14:50 < rxr> coffee, too strong? 14:50 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 14:51 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.92] has joined #t2 14:51 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.78] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:52 < menomc> :\ 14:53 < valentin> hiep created it, i think he took a canister portion for two cups 14:53 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 14:57 < mnemoc> valentin: ? this i miss somehting? 15:00 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.169.168.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 15:02 < mipe> these libtool quirk warnings are great :) getting quite a few from ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -system 15:04 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BECA05.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:20 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.155.202.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:25 < rxr> bios vendor english: "Fixed bug that DMI Table issue" 15:25 < mnemoc> :) 15:26 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 15:26 < rxr> wonders if I should update the BIOS if the change info is already broken ... 15:26 < mnemoc> they could be good coding and bad in english at the same time :) 15:27 < rxr> mnemoc: I have seen enough taiwan code for my life already ... 15:28 < rxr> that bios is 4.3 15:28 < rxr> I think I have some 3.x ... 15:28 < rxr> maybe I finally shoud give that a try ... 15:30 < rxr> heh 15:30 < rxr> I have: BIOS Version : A1013AMS V3.20 06/27/05 15:30 < rxr> recent is V4.30 2006-1-10 15:30 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:31 < rxr> I strongly vote for a universal flash interface 15:31 < rxr> especially on the post disk age flushing with DOS CDs is no fun ... 15:32 < rxr> despite we have FreeDOS for this now ... 15:34 < rxr> hm 15:34 < rxr> they have some live update 15:34 * rxr wonders if booting XP and using that would save me some DOS cd-burning pain ... 15:35 < rxr> and get some fresh viruses directly flashed into the bios ... 15:35 < rxr> btw. in the age of ACPI and Linux letting some ACPI system mamangement stuff run this could indeed become an issue ... 15:35 < rxr> imagine cracker would start flashing their junk into the system bios 15:35 * rxr shiffers ... 15:36 * rxr wonders where and when I lost mz win95 cd .. 15:37 < rxr> ah - f*ck I try this live update 15:37 * rxr does not want to bother with DOS CD bootery 15:37 < rxr> have messed enough with that and DOS network booting for this damn Geode ... 15:37 < rxr> su soon 15:37 * rxr into windows to try this live bios flash thing ... 15:44 < mnemoc> :\ 15:49 < owl> re 15:52 < mnemoc> wb owlita 15:54 < owl> thx 15:55 < LMJ> hellloooo mnemoc and owl 15:58 < mnemoc> hi serwou 16:02 < owl> hi LMJ 16:02 < LMJ> how are you ? 16:03 < rxr> window fluff .. 16:03 < mnemoc> *g* 16:03 < owl> 1 hotpixel ist ok, isnt it? 16:03 < rxr> damn live update told me it updated and "optmized" my BIOS and did in fact _nothing_ 16:03 * rxr burning a win95 ripped of el-torito boot iamge on cd ... 16:03 < rxr> let's see if this ami award whatever bios flash tool work at all ... 16:03 < rxr> more than this useless live update fluff ... 16:06 < karasz> rxr i need a newer libebml for the new vlc 16:06 < karasz> upgrading now 16:07 < karasz> mnemoc, 16:07 < karasz> hi 16:12 < rxr> wow - bios update cured major IRQ routing hickup 16:14 < CIA-8> amery * r14849 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/ (5 files): 16:14 < CIA-8> * updated kaffe (2005-12-23 -> 1.1.7-rc1), and updated copyright notes. 16:14 < CIA-8> * changed kaffe to use system zlib, and enabled fastjar and jvmpi 16:16 < rxr> now I only need to patch POSTing the VGA BIOS on wakeup and the notebook works perfectly ... 16:48 < LMJ> newbie question time : when i run a X program as root, got that error : "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: " how solve that ? 16:51 < karasz> you have to have $DISPLAY set 16:51 < karasz> something like export DISPLAY=":0" or some... 16:52 < LMJ> echo $DISPLAY : nothing ;) 16:53 < LMJ> arg, now : Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server 16:53 < LMJ> Xlib: No protocol specified 17:01 < karasz> o_O 17:01 < karasz> rxr vlc kinda builds... o_O 17:21 < karasz> rxr around? 17:21 < karasz> finaly i hacked vlc 17:23 < rxr> re 17:23 < rxr> yes 17:23 < rxr> with acpi_sleep=s3_bios console video comes back on the notebook 17:23 < rxr> finally, all is perfect on the box ... 17:25 < karasz> rxr interested in how i made vlc work? 17:25 < rxr> sure 17:26 < karasz> or should i drop the subject? 17:26 < rxr> but dinner with susan 17:26 < karasz> oki 17:26 < karasz> bonapetit then rxr 17:26 < rxr> fell free to type 'till I'm back in some minutes 17:26 < karasz> i'll put a cofee too in the mean time 17:33 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:35 < misl> hi folks 17:35 < misl> 2.1 x86-64 reference build 17:35 < misl> 1646 builds total, 767 completed fine, 32 with errors. 17:42 < karasz> hello minto 17:58 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF590.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:58 < nzg> moin 17:59 < karasz> moin nzg 18:00 < nzg> hi karasz 18:04 < rxr> re 18:04 < _Ragnar_> hi hi 18:05 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 18:08 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178131184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 18:08 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 18:08 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 18:08 [Users #t2] 18:08 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ misl ] [ nzg ] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 18:08 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ owl ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 18:08 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mtr ] [ raamcm] [ sparc-kl1] 18:08 [ CIA-8 ] [ LMJ ] [ netrunner] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 18:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 18:08 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 18:08 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 18:09 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 36 secs 18:09 < karasz> rxr around? 18:09 < karasz> iirc you are a kde user... 18:10 < karasz> ? 18:12 < karasz> any kde users around? 18:14 < sepp> seems they are an endangered species :) 18:14 < karasz> seem like it.. 18:15 < karasz> what is up with mnemoc ? 18:15 < karasz> still counting votes or some? 18:17 < rxr_> yes 18:17 < rxr_> re 18:17 < rxr_> needed to scan a book page for susan and the mac took my full attention testing the commercial driver ... 18:20 < valentin> re 18:20 < valentin> rxr: any reproducable crash cenario yet ? 18:23 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178180240.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:25 < karasz> rxr_, i have a present for you ;) 18:25 < karasz> watch the ML 18:32 < misl> rxr: there is some kind of issue with sysfsutils and directfb in 2.1 64 bits 18:32 < misl> directfb can not find libsysfs.so since it looks in the wrong place 18:33 < misl> it looks for usr/lib64/libsysfs.so but it is located in lib64/libsysfs.so 18:34 < misl> 2.1 sysfsutils.conf is wron anyway, since it creates a link to the so in /usr/lib/ (no 64 here) 18:36 < rxr_> misl: yes, this happens bacause we move sysfs.so without updating the associated .la in 2.1 18:36 < rxr_> I think jsaw changed that in trunk 18:36 -!- You're now known as rxr 18:36 < karasz> rxr, watch the ML ;) 18:38 < misl> rxr: I noticed the link creation is gone in trunk. 18:39 < rxr> karasz: /me just applying a patch 18:40 < karasz> ? 18:40 < rxr> karasz: ML ,-) 18:40 < karasz> it is very nice 18:40 < karasz> try it and you will see 18:41 < rxr> karasz: alread looked at the screenshots .. 18:41 < karasz> i have the real thing 18:41 < rxr> karasz: your .desc is mostly fine, thanks - but a .cache for initial dependencies would be even more perfect 18:41 < karasz> and got it through emerge without any problems 18:42 < karasz> cache i added 18:42 < karasz> or i didn't? 18:42 < karasz> i made the .cache too 18:42 < karasz> but i guess i forgot to svn add the .cache before svn diff 18:42 < karasz> :( 18:42 < rxr> karasz: no problem - I build add, and commit .. 18:43 < karasz> should i re ML? 18:43 < karasz> oki 18:43 < karasz> damn I allways forget something ;( 18:43 < karasz> maybe on pack 101 i won't... 18:45 < rxr> karasz: comes time comes routine ,-) 18:46 < karasz> ack 18:49 < rxr> karasz: the thing is really cool ,-) 18:49 < CIA-8> rene * r14850 /trunk/package/kde/yakuake/ (. yakuake.cache yakuake.desc): 18:49 < CIA-8> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 18:49 < CIA-8> * added yakuake (2.7.3) - An alternative KDE terminal emulator 18:50 < karasz> i told you so 18:50 < karasz> :D 18:52 < valentin> karasz: what is special about yakuake compared to the normal kterm ? 18:53 < karasz> valentin, it is very good lookin' and has a nice auto hide feature 18:53 < karasz> also multi tab like konsole and so... 18:54 < rxr> valentin: on F12 it comes out of your desktop top 18:54 < valentin> the kde terminal has tabs, too 18:54 < valentin> rxr: that is nice 18:54 < rxr> valentin: really looking like god on earth ... 18:55 < valentin> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,grossbild-565742-395558,00.html <= this is how to protest against lousy EU parlament decissions ;) 18:56 < rxr> valentin: the subnoteook is now running as smooth as all can be 18:56 < rxr> with IRQ hickup of the last weeks cured due to extreme BIOS update ... 18:56 < rxr> and a tiny flag to the kernel commandline brings the text consoles back on resume ... 18:58 < valentin> rxr: any driver feedback from your side yet ? 19:04 < rxr> what do you mean ? 19:04 < valentin> any reproducable crash cenario or such a thing ? 19:05 < valentin> 19:18 < rxr_> needed to scan a book page for susan and the mac took my full attention testing the 19:05 < valentin> commercial driver ... 19:05 < rxr> worked so far 19:05 < rxr> but I have not tested it too much 19:05 < rxr> I would still rather like to see the default gamma at 2.2 19:05 < rxr> have you removed the profile!=0 conditional to save the last non-profile parameter set ? 19:06 < valentin> yes, didn't you notice ;p ? 19:06 < rxr> have not looked at that part 19:06 < rxr> but gamma was 1.0 19:07 < rxr> editing the profile name comes in some weeks ? 19:07 < valentin> yep - i'll do a *= 2.2 to all slider values 19:07 < valentin> why not ? 19:08 < rxr> hm ? 19:08 < rxr> you mean when the slider shows 1.0 I get 2.2 ? 19:08 < valentin> yes, what do you think ? 19:08 < rxr> yeah 19:08 < rxr> that I get 2.2 when the slider shows 2.2 ? 19:09 < rxr> that is not hidden but due to color space theory what is the intended gamma value for scans with the composition of scanner and monitor printer hardware 19:09 < valentin> rxr: that is even more easy 19:09 < rxr> I never said it should be hidden - just 2.2 by default 19:09 < valentin> so i just default it to 2.2 19:09 < valentin> :) 19:09 < rxr> that is also was pro scanner driver on windows show the user when the open the TWAIN thingi 19:09 < rxr> valentin: yes, I always said default to, not hide behind the users back .. 19:10 < valentin> as you wish sire 19:10 < rxr> no wonder susans scan was so light and I just used 1.8 and still felt it was a bit bright .. 19:10 < valentin> ? 19:10 < valentin> you want to RAISE gamma 19:10 < valentin> so it gets brighter 19:11 < rxr> I wanted it 2.2 19:11 < rxr> and wonder that it is that bright and the moved it back to 1.8 and wondered with the hell does it stil look imperfetly bright .. 19:11 < valentin> but now you tell me 1.8 is too bright ? 19:11 < rxr> you told me you already multiply with 2.2 ... 19:12 < valentin> no 19:12 < valentin> i said i will modify that view controller 19:12 < valentin> atm 1.8 is 1.8 19:12 < rxr> ah I'll do ... 19:12 < rxr> alright 19:12 < valentin> and 2.2 will be 2.2 and much to bright imo 19:12 < rxr> maybe the 610 does already gamma correct to 2.2 19:12 < valentin> but i try right now 19:13 < rxr> I think for the latest scanners it is quite fine 19:13 < rxr> only junk, e.g. from HP has a prebuilt 2.2 hardware gamma hidden behind the drivers back 19:14 < CIA-8> rene * r14851 /trunk/package/multimedia/fftw/ (fftw.conf fftw.desc no-fortran.patch): 19:14 < CIA-8> * fixed fftw's configure to not abort when no fortran is available, 19:14 < CIA-8> it does not include fortran code ... 19:14 < rxr> r15k this week, no ? 19:14 < valentin> rxr: on the av220 2.2 looks a bit too bright, too - even on this f... mac display 19:14 < valentin> black is not totaly black anymore 19:15 < valentin> 1.5 looks more like what i see 19:15 < rxr> hm 19:15 < valentin> you are right, 1.0 is too dark - esp for recycled paper 19:15 < rxr> the use 1.8 19:15 < rxr> that is what I even used on the old av630, the only scanner I paid so far ... 19:15 < rxr> since 1998 ... 19:15 < rxr> did I mention this thing still works ? 19:16 < rxr> I could make a century photo in 2008 scannin on the 40MHz SPARC Station .... 19:16 < valentin> need a table containing def. gamma per scanner :) 19:16 < rxr> well - let's use 1.8 although that is not what would theoretically be needed ... 19:16 < rxr> the driver does officially not support HP junk ... 19:17 < valentin> yea, 1.8 looks good, too 19:17 < valentin> damn, whats wrong with my fucking mac 19:18 < valentin> since the day before yesterday it feels slow and swaping all the time 19:18 < valentin> even more than before 19:18 < valentin> maybe it is due to installing windows media player ? 19:19 < LMJ> hello the chan : this is an error who occured during the update of my system to 2.1.1.1 from 2.1-stable with ladspa-vrt : http://pastebin.com/508539 19:20 < rxr> valentin: ? 19:20 < rxr> valentin: btw. you should finally update to 10.4 ... 19:21 < rxr> I gave you the copy we got for driver development long ago 19:21 < _Ragnar_> hmmm lirc package has a depmod -a 19:21 < rxr> _Ragnar_: kill it 19:22 < _Ragnar_> ? 19:22 * _Ragnar_ kills lirc 19:22 < rxr> the depmod -a ... 19:22 < rxr> no-depmod.patch ,-) 19:22 < _Ragnar_> o_o 19:25 < valentin> rxr: svn up 19:26 < valentin> btw, for each profile you ever scanned from, you will have to hit the "defaults" button to get the new default 19:26 < valentin> so do not wonder if it is still 1.0 in old profiles 19:28 < valentin> looking at a high definition scan, 1.8 does not look to perfect, too - one would have to alter contrast, too 19:29 < valentin> the paper background is still a bit to dark, wheras the black ink is a bit greyish 19:32 < mnemoc> rehi 19:33 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEF6B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:33 < morfoh> re 19:33 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 19:34 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :) 19:34 < mnemoc> rxr: @t2-project.org bounced my last mail due to spam :'( 19:36 < rxr> mnemoc: oehm 19:36 < rxr> mnemoc: can you fwd the bounce to me ? 19:36 < rxr> valentin: I think you moved the scanner GUI window to the top while editing the .nib 19:36 < rxr> and now the window is always located at the top of the screen 19:36 < rxr> remeber this interface builder high tech stuff saves the editors window position ... 19:36 < rxr> however I want to correct a distance anyway ... 19:37 < rxr> I can fix that 19:37 < mnemoc> rxr: sent 19:37 < rxr> ah - yep no profile settings get saved - thanks valentin q 19:37 < valentin> rxr: ? 19:38 < rxr> aren't they ? 19:38 < valentin> they 19:39 < valentin> they are of course 19:39 < valentin> the '?' was about your window stuff 19:39 < valentin> rxr: do you two have plans for the next weekend ? 19:41 < karasz> morfoh, komrade nice to see yop again ;) 19:42 < morfoh> thx karasz-san ... allways a pleasure to meet you ;) 19:43 < karasz> likewise morfoh ;) 19:45 < morfoh> karasz: but afais you're still marked "away" ... so who's talking there ? :p 19:45 < rxr> valentin: susan has birthday on the 20th and otherwise she has to learn 19:45 < rxr> I also have to prepare a talk, a design thing and an exam ... 19:45 < rxr> but aside from that, yes ,-) 19:45 < rxr> strange 19:46 < rxr> the .nib has auto position on all borders 19:46 < rxr> but it was on the top 19:46 < rxr> after I moved the saved position to the center (of my screen) it is in he center again when opened in photoshop ... 19:46 < rxr> do you have open points? 19:47 < rxr> maybe it is better to hand the asking customers the version as it is now 19:47 < rxr> and ship the button integration later 19:47 < karasz> how the hell was i away? 19:47 < karasz> and who talked in my name? 19:47 * karasz looks around... 19:47 < rxr> this will unconver new usb problems I bet, and hav eno time for ... 19:47 < rxr> uncover .. 19:47 < rxr> and so they have profiles and other core and so on changes .... 19:47 < rxr> e.g. ui-less mode improvements ... 19:50 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:56 < LMJ> here a problem i have with the homemade package emelfm2 : http://rafb.net/paste/results/BS5wp327.html 19:57 < rxr> valentin: release as it to make profile awaiting people happy? 19:57 < rxr> and I integrate scanner button tinkery later on when I have time again ? 19:57 < mnemoc> LMJ: don't use /usr/local for t2 packages 19:58 < LMJ> mnemoc ? i never specify to use /usr/local anywhere 19:59 < mnemoc> you have to tell it to use $prefix as prefix 19:59 < mnemoc> depending on the package some use --prefix=$prefix to ./configure 19:59 < mnemoc> or PREFIX=$prefix to make install 19:59 < mnemoc> first find how yours does it 20:00 < CIA-8> rene * r14852 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/ (64bit.patch gcc-4.0-64.patch rezound.conf rezound.desc): * fixed rezound for 64bit (two upstream CVS revs), copyright regen 20:01 < rxr> did I mention this development subnotebook starts to become fun? 20:01 < valentin> rxr: zes, release that thing 20:03 < valentin> maybe the customer finds out how to crash our DS ;) 20:03 < rxr> we need to convince someone we need to get an Intel Mac for universal binary drivers ... 20:03 < rxr> uploaded 20:04 < LMJ> should take 2 min to fix that in that case ;) but for now, GTG, woman can't wait :-/ ;) 20:05 < rxr> LMJ: have fun and cu 20:05 < LMJ> thanks, see you tomorrow, have a good night/end of day 20:08 < karasz> cu SerWou 20:20 < rxr> mnemoc: the mail hit the list 20:21 < rxr> I do not see that our server rejected it 20:21 < rxr> maybe I'm blind ... 20:21 < rxr> valentin: can you quickly sent me an old osx driver release mail ? 20:21 < rxr> my old ones are mostly on my old athlon 20:21 < mnemoc> rxr: what's that bounce then? 20:22 * rxr should configure kmail to store the sent mails on the IMAP server ... 20:22 * mnemoc prefer to CC 20:22 < rxr> look at the received path 20:22 < rxr> I see no exactcode.de 20:22 < rxr> or so 20:23 < mnemoc> From: 20:23 < mnemoc> Mail Delivery Subsystem 20:23 < mnemoc> :) 20:23 < rxr> but that is the one sign 20:23 < rxr> and I think my server does not send such mails 20:23 < mnemoc> uhm... 20:23 < rxr> also you would have spanassassin notes in the mail ... 20:24 < rxr> at least not as "spam-daemon@t2-project.org" 20:24 < rxr> IIRC 20:24 < mnemoc> -1.6, from my smtp-auth 20:24 < mnemoc> weird anyway 20:25 < rxr> the list has the mail, do you see? 20:26 < mnemoc> i get them always because i CC myself 20:26 < mnemoc> but if you got it, i'm happy 20:26 < mnemoc> OT: how do you feed package versions to distrowatch? 20:26 < rxr> valentin: ok - athlon booted forget it 20:28 < rxr> mnemoc: I posted on the day 20:28 < rxr> we have since the beginning a rock compatible file on the server 20:28 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/index.txt 20:29 < rxr> often distrowatch wrote html parser and such - but since one html change at rock times broke it we export this file 20:29 < rxr> and so does t2 since the beginning 20:29 < rxr> I just reminded distrowatch about that some days ago when I read the discussion in scrollback 20:29 < Baldzius> mnemoc: maybe you could email ladislav? 20:30 < Baldzius> it would be more official than email from me :) 20:30 < rxr> I mailed him about the version file just a few days ago ... 20:30 < Baldzius> oh 20:31 < Baldzius> ic 20:31 < Baldzius> well if not i'll email him next month :) 20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: apropos package matrix too, we need to distinguism betwen branches 20:31 < mnemoc> rxr: maybe $sdever based? 20:34 < mnemoc> rxr: i could make a simple sh-based cgi assuming you have a working copy of http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/ .... too much load? 20:37 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:38 < rxr> mnemoc: hm 20:38 < rxr> mnemoc: well - branches would just be packages/{trunk,2.1} and so on ... 20:39 < rxr> mnemoc: I can hand you the current generator tomorrow or so 20:39 * rxr soon of in bed ... 20:39 < rxr> so you make it a cgi ... 20:40 < mnemoc> for the matrix, yes 20:40 < karasz> what pack contains kio-slaves? 20:40 < mnemoc> but to feed stuff per-release to distrowatch we need something more detailed 20:40 < mnemoc> ok, tomorrow anyway ,-) 20:41 < rxr> valentin: btw the auto resize button does work ? 20:43 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.246.247] has joined #t2 20:43 < karasz> what pack contains kio-slaves? 20:44 < rxr> valentin: hm - the version would have the auto-resize button active not doing anything ... 20:44 < rxr> anyway - sending the announcement 20:44 < rxr> at least a reason to do a 1.5.1 and so on ... ,-) 20:46 < mnemoc> karasz: kdelibs: opt/kde3/bin/kioslave 20:47 < karasz> yup i found it in the mean time.. ;) 20:47 < mnemoc> :) 20:48 < karasz> hmmm 20:48 < karasz> i am wondering if i should emerge again kdelibs 20:48 < karasz> konqueror does not know smb:// .... 20:50 < mnemoc> you need samba to get smb:// support ,-) 20:50 < karasz> i have samba installed and runnin fine 20:51 < mnemoc> uhm 20:51 < karasz> i tried smb4k but it does not show the shares 20:51 < karasz> although mounts them if i tell it the name of the share... 20:51 < karasz> smbtree finds all the shares 20:51 < rxr> n8 all 20:52 < karasz> n8 rxr 20:52 < misl> sleep well rxr 20:52 < karasz> YaKuake to u all ;) 20:52 -!- sparc-kl1 [n=mubex@64.237.241.1] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:53 < misl> karasz: kwaak to you too :) 20:54 < karasz> :-) 20:54 < karasz> minto you do not read ML... 20:54 < misl> :D I did 20:54 < karasz> ok then 20:54 < misl> kwaak is the word we use overhere to indicate the sound of ducks or frogs 20:55 < karasz> ohum 20:55 < mnemoc> ducks sure, but frogs?? since when frogs do kwaak? 20:55 < karasz> ? 20:55 < karasz> they kinda do... 20:56 < misl> Kuake seems pretty close to kwaak 20:56 < karasz> yup 20:56 < karasz> morfoh, around? 20:56 < misl> mnemoc: what do chilian frogs do? 20:56 < misl> when not put on the BBQ 20:56 < karasz> :D 20:57 < misl> mnemoc: I did a 2.1 64 bits ref build and I got some failures :( 20:57 < misl> 2.1 x86-64 reference build 20:57 < misl> 1646 builds total, 767 completed fine, 32 with errors. 20:57 < mnemoc> it would be closer to kwraak 20:57 < mnemoc> not kwaak 20:58 < misl> we have krak and kraak but no kwraak 20:58 < mnemoc> :) 20:58 < mnemoc> krwaak? 20:59 < misl> not either :) 20:59 < mnemoc> :) 20:59 < misl> but we have wraak :) 20:59 < misl> wraak = revenge 20:59 < mnemoc> :p 21:00 < misl> mnemoc: ref build stopped although it wasn't finished, any idea why? 21:00 < misl> might it be due to failed dependancies? 21:02 < misl> Also I noticed sysfsutils uses both /lib64 and /usr/lib64 to put results in. 21:02 < karasz> o_O 21:02 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/src/t2-src# smbadduser karasz 21:02 < karasz> prefix=/opt/samba: Command not found. 21:02 < karasz> prefix: Undefined variable. 21:02 < karasz> wth? 21:03 < misl> directfb looks libsysfs.so in /usr/lib64 but it is in /lib64. 21:03 < misl> this is why directfb is one of the failed packages. 21:04 < mnemoc> karasz: file `type -p smbadduser` 21:05 < karasz> /opt/samba/bin/smbadduser: C shell script text executable 21:07 < karasz> #!/bin/csh 21:07 < karasz> # 21:07 < karasz> # smbadduser - Written by Mike Zakharoff 21:07 < karasz> # 21:07 < karasz> prefix=/opt/samba 21:07 < karasz> exec_prefix=${prefix} 21:07 < karasz> LIBDIR=${prefix}/lib 21:07 < karasz> PRIVATEDIR=/etc/opt/samba/private 21:07 < karasz> CONFIGDIR=/etc/opt/samba 21:08 < karasz> in bash it would be ok but csh i don't know 21:10 < karasz> hmm it should be set variable=value 21:11 < mnemoc> csh 21:11 -!- zod [i=zod@shodan.knid.net] has left #t2 [] 21:12 < mnemoc> change that to !/bin/sh 21:12 < karasz> i wrote set to all variables and now it works 21:12 < mnemoc> good :) 21:12 < karasz> i dunno 21:12 < karasz> it may be csh because it does not look lik ebash 21:13 < mnemoc> what you showed, looks like bash :) 21:13 < karasz> the rest does not look like bash ;) 21:13 < mnemoc> :) 21:14 < karasz> unalias * 21:14 < karasz> set path = ($path /usr/local/samba/bin) 21:14 < karasz> set smbpasswd = $PRIVATEDIR/smbpasswd 21:14 < karasz> set user_map = $CONFIGDIR/users.map 21:14 < karasz> ^^ does not look like bash, does it? 21:15 < mnemoc> tcsh :) 21:16 < karasz> anyway works with csh 21:17 < mnemoc> karasz: try to find where those wrong lines where added please 21:17 < karasz> if you want you can patch stable ;) 21:17 < mnemoc> karasz: so we can really fix it 21:17 < mnemoc> were added* 21:17 < karasz> hmmm i'll have to emerge because samba was enabled on Build-Target 21:18 < karasz> how can i retain the src directory on succesfull builds? 21:18 < mnemoc> you can't 21:18 < karasz> nice 21:19 < mnemoc> what you do is to force a failure 21:19 < karasz> so how will i see what is inside? 21:19 < mnemoc> hook_add postmake 5 false 21:19 < karasz> good 21:19 < karasz> lets force T2 to break 21:19 < karasz> :D 21:19 < karasz> how? 21:19 < karasz> oki 21:22 < karasz> now dld samba 21:27 < karasz> f* 21:27 < karasz> it will take a while 21:27 < karasz> damn 21:27 < karasz> my wks drives me crazy 21:27 < mnemoc> btw, on update mode modified files won't be replaced 21:27 < karasz> it makes strange sounds... 21:28 < mnemoc> there is a backup/restore routine around it 21:28 < karasz> something like a stegosaurus baby... 21:28 < karasz> and i can't figure out what it is... o_O 21:28 < karasz> mnemoc, you were talkin' to me? 21:28 < karasz> abt update mode? 21:29 < mnemoc> yes 21:30 < mnemoc> you have an installed samba, so this emerge is considered an update 21:31 < karasz> O_O 21:31 < karasz> samba is broke in the source??? 21:31 < karasz> #!/bin/csh 21:31 < karasz> # 21:31 < karasz> # smbadduser - Written by Mike Zakharoff 21:31 < karasz> # 21:31 < karasz> prefix=/opt/samba 21:31 < karasz> exec_prefix=${prefix} 21:31 < karasz> LIBDIR=${prefix}/lib 21:31 < karasz> PRIVATEDIR=/etc/opt/samba/private 21:31 < karasz> CONFIGDIR=/etc/opt/samba 21:32 < karasz> this is in /usr/src/t2-src/src.samba.mine.20060116.212807.11311.karasz/samba-3.0.20b/source 21:32 < karasz> ??? 21:33 < karasz> from this i deduce that smbadduser is broken in source 21:33 < karasz> we just only change the values of that params... 21:34 < mnemoc> fixed on .21a? 21:34 < karasz> i dunno 21:34 < karasz> i will check 21:34 < misl> sleep well all, I am off to bed 21:35 < karasz> damn that stegosaurus...... 21:35 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 21:35 < mnemoc> 2.1:HEAD has .21a 21:35 < mnemoc> grandpa' misl 21:36 < karasz> dld .21a now 21:37 < karasz> btw mnemoc 21:37 < karasz> i made vlc kinda work on 2.1. stable x86-64 21:38 < karasz> openldap also has a problem which must be fixed 21:40 < karasz> that's it my stegosaurus will drive me crazy !!!! 21:44 < karasz> mnemoc, it is not fixed on .21a either 21:44 < mnemoc> karasz: ok, cp source/smbadduser source/smbadduser.orig 21:44 < mnemoc> karasz: vi source/smbadduser and fix 21:44 < karasz> it is smbadduser.in in .21a 21:45 < mnemoc> ok, .in 21:45 < mnemoc> cp source/smbadduser.in{,.orig} 21:45 < mnemoc> vi source/smbadduser.in 21:45 < karasz> and make a diff patch 21:45 < karasz> :D 21:45 < karasz> that much i learned 21:45 < mnemoc> diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,} > fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch 21:46 < mnemoc> mv fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch /your_t2_tree/package/*/samba/ 21:46 < mnemoc> svn add .... and blah blah :) 21:52 < karasz> gone 21:53 < karasz> i made it against trunk 21:53 < mnemoc> it should be the same 21:54 < karasz> yep just i wanted you to know 21:54 < mnemoc> and all patches go to trunk first anyway 21:54 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14853 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4: * correct input modules selection (joystick, touchscreen) 21:55 < karasz> mnemoc, you have some merging to do from trunk... ;) 21:55 < karasz> for kde 21:55 < karasz> and openldap maybe... 21:56 -!- axion__ [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 21:56 -!- axion [n=axion@cpe-24-195-94-82.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:56 < mnemoc> karasz: give me revision numbers ,-) 21:57 < mnemoc> what update from kde? 21:57 < mnemoc> i ahve to stay at 3.4.x 21:58 < mnemoc> due to compatibility/stability policies 21:58 < karasz> ? 21:58 < karasz> did i say something abt update kde? 21:58 < karasz> it is an issue that rxr fixed for x86-64 21:59 < karasz> in essence is that there is no /opt/kde3/libs or it is empty 21:59 < karasz> /opt/kde3/lib should be a symlink to /opt/kde2/lib64 21:59 < karasz> without that kde does not even start on T2 22:00 < mnemoc> [18:57:16] mnemoc, you have some merging to do from trunk... ;) 22:00 < mnemoc> [18:57:21] for kde 22:00 < mnemoc> [18:57:29] and openldap maybe... 22:00 < mnemoc> ah, lib64 fixes, yes 22:01 < karasz> openldap is the same 22:01 < karasz> it has only /lib64 22:01 < karasz> packs depending on openldap fail due to not finding lib 22:02 < karasz> like evolution-data-server 22:02 < Baldzius> jsaw: around ? 22:02 < karasz> also eds must be marked FPIC-QUIRK 22:03 < karasz> vlc is another issue 22:03 < karasz> 0.8.2 fails with assembly 22:03 < mnemoc> i have to import LIBTOOL-QUIRK, AUTOMAKE-QUIRK and FPIC-QUIRK stuff 22:03 < karasz> but they made some changes in 0.8.4a which is in trunk 22:04 < karasz> for vlc to build on 2.1 i made the following: 22:04 < karasz> re-emerged libmpeg2 with fPIC 22:04 < karasz> changed vlc.desc to match .desc on trunk 22:04 < karasz> upgraded libembl to trunk 22:05 < karasz> and wxwidgets also to trunk 22:05 < karasz> built fine, but 22:05 < mnemoc> watch out with wxwidgets 22:05 < karasz> only runs with `vlc --intf wxwindows` 22:06 < karasz> a simple vlc fails because it say cannot find any interface 22:06 < jsaw> Baldzius: more or less ;) 22:06 < karasz> but with above it runs fine 22:06 < mnemoc> if you update wxwidgets you must update wxpython 22:07 < Baldzius> jsaw: for min , can you look as http://pastebin.com/508460 and say why it fails on ref but compiles with Emerge ? :) 22:07 < karasz> i didn't, maybe that's why a simple vlc does not do it... 22:08 < Baldzius> jsaw: i think -ljpeg could fix it but why it compiles with Emerge-Pkg 22:08 < Baldzius> jsaw: same with cinepaint 22:09 < jsaw> on x86-64? 22:09 < Baldzius> x86 22:09 < jsaw> yes, seems like missing dependency 22:10 < Baldzius> this is mysterious for me 22:10 < jsaw> ask libtool why it works while emerging, but not inside chroot 22:10 < jsaw> :| 22:10 < Baldzius> shi!t :/ 22:10 < jsaw> simple but true --^ 22:11 < karasz> mnemoc, i have no wxpython installed... 22:11 < karasz> and wxwidgets emerged with no problems... 22:12 < Baldzius> but when i am compiling with Emerge or on ref i see same libs 22:12 < Baldzius> -L/usr/X11/lib -ltiff -lpng -lX11 22:12 < Baldzius> no -ljpeg 22:12 < Baldzius> and emerge doesn't fail 22:12 < jsaw> Baldzius: as I said, ask libtool 22:12 < Baldzius> damn 22:12 < jsaw> Baldzius: (you can have a look at the dependency_libs in libtiff.la) 22:13 < Baldzius> iirc there is libjepg 22:13 < Baldzius> everything looks ok 22:14 < jsaw> both, in chroot and local ? 22:14 < Baldzius> yes 22:14 < Baldzius> they look the same 22:14 < jsaw> okay, ask libtool itself... 22:15 < Baldzius> ok , thanks anyway :) 22:15 < jsaw> np 22:16 < Baldzius> :) 22:34 < karasz> mnemoc, 22:34 < karasz> there is a problem 22:34 < karasz> with the smbadduser patch 22:37 < jsaw> what problem? 22:37 < karasz> moment 22:38 < karasz> /usr/src/t2-trunk/package/network/samba/fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch 22:38 < karasz> ==[apply_patchfiles:636 (last $?=0)> patch -bfp1 -z .orig 22:38 < karasz> can't find file to patch at input line 3 22:38 < karasz> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? 22:38 < karasz> The text leading up to this was: 22:38 < karasz> -------------------------- 22:38 < karasz> |--- /source/smbadduser.in 2005-02-25 17:59:41.000000000 +0000 22:38 < karasz> |+++ /source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 21:48:53.000000000 +0000 22:38 < karasz> -------------------------- 22:38 < karasz> No file to patch. Skipping patch. 22:38 < karasz> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored 22:38 < karasz> Due to previous errors, no 9-samba.log file! 22:39 < karasz> i made that patch but i guess i messed up with something 22:39 < mnemoc> ./source/smbadduser.in 22:39 < mnemoc> notice the dot 22:39 < karasz> should i remove it? 22:40 < mnemoc> remove what? 22:40 < karasz> the dot 22:40 < mnemoc> no! 22:40 < mnemoc> the dot is missing 22:40 < mnemoc> and it should be there 22:40 < karasz> nah 22:40 < karasz> it was 22:40 < mnemoc> not on what you pasted 22:40 < karasz> i know 22:40 < mnemoc> paste --- and +++ lines from the patch 22:42 < Baldzius> mnemoc: kaffe patch isn't applying and it also fails without patch 22:42 < Baldzius> ^^ -- x86 ref 22:42 < karasz> --- ./source/smbadduser.in 2005-02-25 17:59:41.000000000 +0000 22:42 < karasz> +++ ./source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 21:48:53.000000000 +0000 22:42 < karasz> @@ -3,11 +3,11 @@ 22:42 < karasz> # smbadduser - Written by Mike Zakharoff 22:42 < karasz> # 22:43 < karasz> mnemoc, disregard what i am sayin' 22:43 < mnemoc> about? 22:44 < karasz> abt the patch i wil verify again 22:44 < karasz> this is from the error 22:44 < karasz> Cleaning up ccache ... 22:44 < karasz> -> Restoring backup of old package data. 22:44 < karasz> !> -------------------------- 22:44 < karasz> !> |--- ./source/smbadduser.in 2005-02-25 17:59:41.000000000 +0000 22:44 < karasz> !> |+++ ./source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 21:48:53.000000000 +0000 22:44 < karasz> !> -------------------------- 22:44 < karasz> !> No file to patch. Skipping patch. 22:44 < karasz> !> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored 22:44 < karasz> !> Due to previous errors, no 9-samba.log file! 22:44 < karasz> there are dots... 22:44 < mnemoc> o.o 22:45 < karasz> i will make a Create-Err -romove and try again 22:45 < Baldzius> +++ ./source/smbadduser.in.orig 22:45 < Baldzius> i am always doing diff -Nur 22:45 < jsaw> karasz: wrong way round 22:46 < karasz> ahum now i notice 22:46 < CIA-8> amery * r14854 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/dompatch-guilhem.patch: * removed dompatch-guilhem.patch from kaffe because it's included on the release 22:46 < mnemoc> ah, yes... i didn't notice you have +++ .orig 22:46 < mnemoc> diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,} 22:47 < mnemoc> not diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{,.orig} 22:47 < karasz> and i trusted you 22:47 < karasz> ;) 22:49 < mnemoc> [18:47:17] diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,} > fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch 22:49 < mnemoc> ^---- what's wrong there? 22:50 < karasz> so? 22:50 < karasz> i remade 22:51 < karasz> now i am waitin for the diff command... 22:53 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.246.247] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:55 < karasz> diff -u ./source/smbadduser.in{.orig,} > /root/fix_smbadduser_csh_usage.patch does not work either .... 22:55 < karasz> what the heck? 22:56 < karasz> -> Restoring backup of old package data. 22:56 < karasz> !> -------------------------- 22:56 < karasz> !> |--- ./source/smbadduser.in.orig 2006-01-16 22:50:47.000000000 +0000 22:56 < karasz> !> |+++ ./source/smbadduser.in 2006-01-16 22:51:12.000000000 +0000 22:56 < karasz> !> -------------------------- 22:56 < karasz> !> No file to patch. Skipping patch. 22:56 < karasz> !> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored 22:56 < mnemoc> cd src.samba.$randomcrap/ 22:56 < mnemoc> cd samba-3.0.21a 22:57 < mnemoc> ls -alF ./source/smbadduser.in 22:57 < karasz> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1851 Feb 25 2005 ./source/smbadduser.in 22:58 < mnemoc> O_O 23:00 < karasz> AC_OUTPUT(include/stamp-h Makefile script/findsmb smbadduser script/gen-8bit-gap.sh) does tell you smth? 23:00 < jsaw> karasz: remove "/source" manually 23:01 < karasz> hmm i looked again directly in the bz2 23:01 < karasz> the file is there it not gets created... 23:01 < jsaw> remove the /source 23:01 < jsaw> !!! 23:01 < karasz> it is there from the beginnin' 23:01 < karasz> ok 23:01 < jsaw> samba.conf: srcdir="samba-$ver/source" 23:01 < mnemoc> :D 23:03 < karasz> which is korect -- .orig or --- .in? 23:03 < jsaw> karasz: only remve "/source" from the diff as it is now 23:03 < jsaw> manually with $EDITOR 23:04 < karasz> now the diff is ---.orig 23:04 < jsaw> yep, that's fine 23:04 < karasz> it should read ./smbadduser.in.orig? 23:04 < jsaw> yes 23:04 < jsaw> or alternative source/smbadduser.in 23:05 < jsaw> see sparc.patch for example 23:16 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF590.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:16 < karasz> good 23:17 < karasz> samba built 23:20 < jsaw> :) 23:26 < jsaw> Focus steeling prevention ??? wtf 23:26 < jsaw> (<- testing KDE) 23:26 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-24-54.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 23:27 < jsaw> nice, password window pops up (while "Focus steeling prevention = Low"), then I type the password almost into irc client, becaus the popup window does not get the focus 23:27 < jsaw> how f*cking stupid 23:30 < jsaw> rxr: udev needs a /dev/cdrom link 23:31 < ojh> jsaw: Agreed. Random pop-ups stealing the focus while doing something else is one of the worst UI features ever. 23:33 < jsaw> its exactly the other way round. A password popup _must_ grab (globally) the focus. 23:34 < jsaw> And if it doesn't grab, it shouldn't appear on top stacking layer at least 23:34 < jsaw> even old e16 does a better job at this 23:39 < jsaw> hi ojh btw 23:39 < jsaw> (sorry I'm in KDE bashing mood) 23:40 < jsaw> Can somebody tell me how I get rid of the "Leave focus by pressing ALT-key"-behaviour??? 23:49 < jsaw> rxr: /sbin/init.d/xcfgt2 destroyed my xorg.conf, this shouldn't happen when a user uses a manually edited xorg.conf 23:55 < mnemoc> re 23:55 < mnemoc> xcfgt2.init is designed for livecd only 23:55 < mnemoc> so you should not enable it :) 23:55 < jsaw> it is there by default 23:55 < jsaw> and even then, it shouldn't 23:56 < mnemoc> i mean symlinked to /etc/rc.d/rc{3,5}.d 23:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: it's automatically installed in runlevel 5 23:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: without user interaction! 23:59 < mnemoc> ehm --- Log closed Tue Jan 17 00:00:08 2006