--- Log opened Sun Jan 15 00:00:18 2006 00:21 -!- Baldzius_ is now known as Baldzius 00:38 < mnemoc> re 00:45 < Baldzius> wb mnemoc 00:45 < Baldzius> do you have a min? 00:47 < mnemoc> 12 00:47 < Baldzius> :) 00:47 < Baldzius> what do you think about adding trunk's package list to distrowatch/t2 ? 00:47 < Baldzius> is it hard? 00:48 < Baldzius> i asked rene but hm .. he didn't answer 00:48 < mnemoc> that is done by distrowatch 00:48 < mnemoc> when we have the first rc of t2 2.2, they will add a column for it 00:49 < Baldzius> i ask because every source distro i know has it ... lunar call it moonbase rocklinux - current and so on 00:50 < mnemoc> ask them how to feed the info 00:50 < Baldzius> whom? 00:51 < Baldzius> lunar && rocklinux? :) 00:51 < Baldzius> sourcemage has grimoire 00:51 < mnemoc> distrowatch 00:51 < Baldzius> gentoo - unstable 00:52 < mnemoc> they may want periodic snapshots 00:58 < Baldzius> hm 00:58 < Baldzius> and how distrowatch knows about what package versions the release has? 00:58 < Baldzius> _file_ ? 00:59 < mnemoc> we CC them the announce mail 01:01 < mnemoc> ask them :) 01:01 < mnemoc> we would like to feed 2.1-stable and 2.2-trunk versions :) 01:02 < mnemoc> brb 01:03 < Baldzius> iirc gentoo stable/unstable are fed by _file_ located on ftp 01:03 < mnemoc> that's easy 01:03 < Baldzius> automatically generated each day 01:03 < mnemoc> sample? 01:03 < Baldzius> u ask me i have it? 01:05 < Baldzius> that was long time ago and i remember there was a simple list of packages "_package_ _version_" 01:06 < Baldzius> but if rocklinux has it rene should know about that, maybe he isn't interested ... 01:07 < Baldzius> .o0 ( my thoughts ) :) 01:11 < Baldzius> oops rocklinux has it named "snapshot" 01:11 < Baldzius> not current 01:22 < Baldzius> 'k ... /me in bed ... gn8 all :) 01:35 < mnemoc> re 01:35 < mnemoc> rene is just busy 02:10 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-16-69.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 03:16 -!- sparc-kly [n=ultra5@64.237.242.207] has joined #t2 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r14822 /trunk/package/java/ibm-jdk-150/ibm-jdk-150.desc: * Updated URL for ibm-jdk-150 07:45 < CIA-8> msluis * r14823 /trunk/package/java/ibm-jre-150/ibm-jre-150.desc: * Updated URL for ibm-jre-150 07:46 < rxr> moin minto 07:55 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/ 07:55 < rxr> ^- 2.1.1(.1) news 08:04 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/index.txt 08:05 < rxr> our package export, trunk only right now 08:33 < rxr> symlink sory posted 08:33 * rxr coffe 08:33 < rxr> e 08:35 < rxr> bah - -6.x°C no wonder it is cold 08:36 < rxr> °C 08:36 < rxr> hm - I hope you get the degree sign when it does not show up here ... 08:40 < CIA-8> rene * r14824 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in: 08:40 < CIA-8> * simplified linux-conf.in: use sed -i and avoid unnecessary newline 08:40 < CIA-8> quoting 08:40 < CIA-8> * abort if the version can not be extracted (the case for latest 08:40 < CIA-8> -mm kernels) 09:31 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14825 /trunk/package/scientific/root/ (root.conf root.desc): 09:31 < CIA-8> * update root (5.04.00 -> 5.08.00) 09:31 < CIA-8> * re-enabled xrootd (untested) 09:31 < CIA-8> * added x86-64 configuration (others to be done!) 09:32 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.78] has joined #t2 09:33 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.111] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:35 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 09:58 < CIA-8> sebastian * r14826 /trunk/package/audio/eq-xmms/ (eq-xmms.desc slider.patch): * updated eq-xmms (0.6 -> 0.7) 09:58 < LMJ> brb 09:58 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:02 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 10:04 < LMJ> hello back 10:13 < rxr> hi LMJ 10:13 < LMJ> morning rxr 10:13 < LMJ> how are you ? 10:13 < rxr> ouhm 10:14 < rxr> guess I get some angry customers on monday since the os x driver release will not be ready ... 10:14 < rxr> aside from that, and that I had to notice the bakery is not open on sundays at 7 o'clock quite fine 10:14 < rxr> one is opening at 8 and the other at 9 ... 10:15 < rxr> ouhm 10:15 < valentin> moin 10:15 < rxr> and now my subnotebook turned off, better should have plugged in the power cord 10:15 < valentin> rxr: i cannot reproduce that close - open bug 10:15 < valentin> though i had a similar crash once 10:15 < valentin> after doing more complex stuff 10:16 < rxr> well, maybe my use case was more complex then and I oversimplified it to open scan close open ... 10:17 < valentin> i tried, but it must be more complex than preview - change settings/profiles - scan - close - open 10:17 < valentin> but once the driver crashed after open when i tried to set the scan mode 10:17 < valentin> whatever 10:20 < rxr> what about the preview crash at 180 dpi preview mode? 10:21 < valentin> you told me about 175. 175 did not crash, and 176 too. i can try 180 10:21 < rxr> yes of course the one in the flie 10:22 < rxr> are you sure you scanned the preview at 175 dpi ? 10:22 < valentin> yes 10:22 < valentin> it took twice the time than normal 10:22 < valentin> so i am quite sure 10:22 < rxr> hm 10:23 < valentin> if you can produce that crash in your office, i'll come around monday evening 10:23 < rxr> you have not yer removed the preview coloring with auto-selection test code ß 10:23 < rxr> ? even 10:24 < valentin> i am on it 10:24 < valentin> however, if you want to release within the next 5 minutes, i can commit an intermediate version without selection 10:25 < rxr> no 10:25 < rxr> I want some more working version tomorrow 10:25 < rxr> could you save the no profile case values as well? 10:26 < rxr> people want that ... 10:26 < rxr> that is let the driver use the last values when they boot their box another day ... 10:26 < valentin> rxr: so i just that 'no profile' button ?? 10:27 < valentin> ... remove.... 10:27 < rxr> no, just also save the "no profile" profile into the file ... 10:27 < valentin> ok, it's just removing an if profile != 0 switch 10:27 < rxr> so they have a scratch area among the profiles .. 10:27 < rxr> yep 10:28 < rxr> btw. on the long term the profiles would be handy to be renameable ... 10:29 < valentin> yes, but this sucks in OSX interface ... i'll take a look how to do so with the popupbutton 10:29 < rxr> and I need to talk to avision to get the ocr engine license for os x - people ask for ocr'ed pdf these days ... 10:29 < rxr> they already licence one for their windows a-on ... 10:29 < rxr> add on ... 10:29 < rxr> valentin: some applicatoins allow renming via pressing on the button 10:29 < rxr> valentin: e.g. as interface builder 10:30 < rxr> but renaming is not needed till monday bug fixing is more important ... 10:30 < rxr> though with renaming it would look more polished 10:36 < rxr> hm, didn't we once had a default gamma of 2.2 ? 10:42 < valentin> rxr: we removed it half a year ago, because it looked quite uncolorful with most of the scanners 10:42 < valentin> it was far tooo whitisch 10:42 < valentin> but every scanner behaves different 10:42 < rxr> for all recent scanners it is 2.2 and that is what avision.c initilizes the gamma table with ... 10:43 < rxr> however I could tag the 1.0 vs. 2.2 in the avision.c device list 10:43 < valentin> i had one that looked far tooo milky 10:43 < rxr> but the mac driver would not change to gues it aside interpreting the prefilled gamma table ... 10:43 < rxr> yes, the old b0rked HP74xx ... 10:43 < valentin> i remember 10:43 < rxr> I mostly care about new and Avision devices ... 10:44 < rxr> valentin: guess guessing from prefilled gamma table if I mark in avision.c is not such a nice option, is it ? 10:44 < rxr> if ( gamma_table[sizeof(gamma_table)/2] != 127 /* or so */) 10:45 < rxr> gamma=2.2 10:45 < rxr> else 10:45 < valentin> no 10:45 < rxr> gamma=1.0; 10:45 < rxr> fi 10:45 < rxr> err 10:45 < rxr> } 10:45 < rxr> too much bash 10:45 < valentin> why not just adding a constant offset to the gamma slider value ? 10:45 < rxr> and one missing semicolon ... 10:45 < rxr> you mean automatically inside avision.c ? 10:45 < rxr> btw. gamma is not linear ... 10:45 < valentin> no 10:46 < valentin> rxr: gamma is not a single value 10:46 < valentin> and the gamma table is not gamma only but brightness and contrast too 10:46 < valentin> is there any way the backend can pass an information double value to the frontend ? 10:47 < rxr> yet another option ? 10:47 < rxr> a SANE_AVISOIN_ENHANCED #ifdef option ? 10:47 < owl> moin 10:48 < valentin> moin owl 10:49 < valentin> yes, i just need a simple value to scale / add to the gui gamma slider value 10:49 < valentin> transparent of course 10:50 < rxr> hm - not today 10:51 < rxr> but changing the value to 2.2 already would be good 11:01 < CIA-8> rene * r14827 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * simplified mkinitrd conditional 11:03 < rxr> .oO 11:03 < rxr> f*ck 11:03 < rxr> corrupted my working copy linux-conf.in ... 11:03 < rxr> damned 11:05 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14828 /trunk/package/games/clanlib/ (5 files): 11:05 < CIA-8> * LIBTOOL-QUIRK candidate 11:05 < CIA-8> * copyright update 11:10 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF9D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 11:11 < CIA-8> jsaw * r14829 /trunk/package/mail/fetchmail/fetchmail.desc: * flagged AUTOMAKE-QUIRK 11:13 < nzg> moin 11:14 < rxr> moin nzg 11:33 < CIA-8> aldas * r14830 /trunk/package/network/lighttpd/ (lighttpd.conf lighttpd.desc): * updated lighttpd (1.4.8 -> 1.4.9) 11:33 < Baldzius> good morning :) 11:39 < rxr> moin Baldzius 11:40 < Baldzius> hi rxr 11:42 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178185228.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 11:42 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 11:42 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 11:42 [Users #t2] 11:42 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-8 ] [ LMJ ] [ nzg] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 11:42 [ axion ] [ demian] [ mnemoc] [ owl] [ sepp ] [ zod ] 11:42 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ 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[@ChanServ] [ CIA-8 ] [ LMJ ] [ nzg ] [ sepp ] [ zod ] 12:13 [ axion ] [ demian] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar_] 12:13 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 12:13 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 12:13 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 12:13 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 12:14 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 37 secs 12:14 < rxr_> ouhm 12:14 < rxr_> this AP is no fun at all 12:24 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:25 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has joined #t2 12:56 < LMJ> new kernel is out ;) 13:22 -!- martin_tfh [n=martin@p54BDFC74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:22 < martin_tfh> hello :) 13:22 < martin_tfh> rxr_: You are online? 14:02 < rxr_> yes 14:02 < rxr_> hi martin_tfh 14:03 < rxr_> martin_tfh: something urgent fh related? or why do you ask from the tfh? 14:04 -!- You're now known as rxr 14:31 < rxr> uncached reiser3 svn st on my laptop: 14:31 < rxr> real 2m31.815s 14:31 < rxr> user 0m0.984s 14:31 < rxr> sys 0m1.176s 14:31 < rxr> cached: 14:31 < rxr> real 0m22.986s 14:31 < rxr> user 0m0.888s 14:31 < rxr> sys 0m0.532s 14:32 < rxr> halfly cached reiser4 svn st on the same laptop: 14:32 < rxr> real 0m3.594s 14:32 < rxr> user 0m0.976s 14:32 < rxr> sys 0m0.800s 14:32 < rxr> cached: 14:32 < rxr> real 0m3.275s 14:32 < rxr> user 0m0.900s 14:32 < rxr> sys 0m0.568s 14:33 * rxr testbuilding linux26mm on reiser4 4 thy fun of it .. 14:33 < Baldzius> yeah , reiser4 is fast, that's why i moved my working tree on reiser4 partiton :) 14:33 < Baldzius> svn up is done in seconds 14:34 < Baldzius> ext3 just stinks :) 14:34 < rxr> i did not use ext* for serious work since half a decade now ... 14:34 < rxr> reiser3 exclusively ... 14:35 < rxr> Baldzius: any reiser4 incident so far ? 14:36 < Baldzius> rxr: 1, had two lib dirs under same / 14:36 < Baldzius> on ref build 14:36 < martin_tfh> rxr: oh no. fh is closed. and a'm not creative enough to find a good nickname 14:37 < martin_tfh> rxr: i have a question about dvb-t firmware driver. do you have some minutes for a privat chat? 14:38 < rxr> ouhm 14:38 < rxr> a bit busy, but sure ... 14:39 < rxr> martin_tfh: you know that you need to be registered these days for private messages in IRC here ? 14:39 < martin_tfh> yes ... i see it. ups 14:40 < martin_tfh> I will writ ea short mail ;) 14:40 < rxr> or phone ... 14:40 < rxr> you also can type here ... 14:40 < martin_tfh> number? the old one? 14:41 < rxr> 255... 14:41 < rxr> my phone mubers have not changed since 2 years now ... 14:41 < rxr> and will not ... 14:41 < rxr> though a dedicated company no. will appear sooner than later ... 14:45 < martin_tfh> rxr: okay, i will phone you in some minutes ... 14:54 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178176063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 14:54 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System 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[n=sepp@p213.54.155.202.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 15:04 < rxr_> damn AP software 15:05 -!- You're now known as rxr 15:05 < Baldzius> hi morfoh 15:05 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :) 15:06 < morfoh> rxr: build or config problem ? 15:07 < morfoh> rxr: or do you mean "your" original Linksys firmware 15:13 < CIA-8> aldas * r14832 /trunk/package/develop/libgdiplus/libgdiplus.desc: * updated libgdiplus (1.1.10 -> 1.1.13) 15:15 -!- sparc-kly[U5] [n=ultra5@64.237.246.132] has joined #t2 15:16 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.157.92.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:19 < Baldzius> jsaw around? 15:27 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 15:30 < mipe> mnemoc: in what state is mnemosyne in trunk? 15:31 < sparc-kly[U5]> broken 15:32 < morfoh> sparc-kly[U5]: why broken ? 15:32 < sparc-kly[U5]> is a joke . i dont have idea :) 15:34 < morfoh> sparc-kly[U5]: bad boy ;) 15:36 < morfoh> mipe: I think, you've to do some manual work. savest way is to use it with 2.1 atm. I guess 15:38 -!- sparc-kly [n=ultra5@64.237.242.207] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:21 < rxr> morfoh: original firmware is a p**** of s**t 16:21 < rxr> morfoh: watch my random reconnects and get a feeling ... 16:23 < morfoh> rxr: yes ... it's really annoying :/ 16:23 < rxr> yeah, guess how it "feels" on my end 16:24 < rxr> if my neighbour would not be using it as well I would already have started tinkering T2 onto it ... 16:24 < rxr> not 3 2 1 my - ebay commercial, but 3 2 1, t2 on the AP ... 16:25 < morfoh> rxr: :) 16:26 < morfoh> rxr: regarding a mipsel cross-build I experienced more problems on trunk than on 2.1 16:28 < rxr> hm 16:28 < morfoh> rxr: i.e. new openssl-0.9.8 in trunk doesn't support mipsel and gcc-4.0.2 seems to have problems too ... 16:28 < rxr> hm hm 16:28 * rxr is uni mode .. 16:28 < rxr> can you come back in some more days ? 16:28 < rxr> or do the uni work for me ? 16:29 < morfoh> rxr: of course :) 16:29 * rxr prefers the 2nd choice ... 16:29 < rxr> how is your uni stuf going actually ? 16:29 < morfoh> rxr: quite ok ... can't compmlain 16:31 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.100.120] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:32 * morfoh needs sth. to eat ... switching into cooking mode ... bbl ;) 16:33 * rxr rebooting a printk instrumented firmware loading kernel while doing the uni and other washing work ... 16:33 < rxr> bbl 16:33 < morfoh> cu :) 16:46 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.159.116] has joined #t2 16:48 < CIA-8> rene * r14833 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/ (linux26mm.conf linux26mm.desc): * updated linux26mm (2.6.15-mm1 -> 2.6.15-mm4) 16:49 < rxr> re 16:50 < rxr> reiser4 is so damn fast I hope I do not trigger bugs in the next days ... 16:50 < rxr> if not it likely quickly becomes my new standard FS .. 16:55 < Baldzius> ^^ -- i was thinking about that 16:59 < CIA-8> mtr * r14834 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (25 files): 16:59 < CIA-8> * updated vdr (1.3.37 -> 1.3.39) 16:59 < CIA-8> * updated plugins: remote, dvd, mp3/mplayer, image, dxr3, epgsearch 16:59 < CIA-8> * added plugin: cdda 16:59 < CIA-8> * fixed some download urls, updated copyrights 17:00 < LMJ> helloou 17:01 < Baldzius> hi LMJ 17:01 < LMJ> what's Bal 17:01 < LMJ> Baldzius 17:01 < LMJ> with the Tab, it's better ;) 17:02 < Baldzius> :) 17:03 < CIA-8> mtr * r14835 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/jack-fix.patch: * fixed copyright note for recently added jack patch 17:03 -!- sparc-kly[U5] is now known as sparc-kly 17:05 < CIA-8> mtr * r14836 /trunk/package/mail/nullmailer/nullmailer.desc: * updated nullmailer (1.01 -> 1.02) 17:05 < CIA-8> mtr * r14837 /trunk/package/gnome2/gcalctool/gcalctool.desc: * updated gcalctool (5.7.11 -> 5.7.23) 17:12 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 17:30 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:30 < misl> hi folks :) 17:32 < misl> Error logs from ref64-2.1-stable-x86-64-generic: 17:32 < misl> [1] base/linux24 [1] shells/pdksh 17:32 < misl> [3] base/gettext [5] base/linux24 17:32 < misl> [5] games/bsd-games [5] security/opensc 17:32 < misl> [5] graphic/transfig [5] network/ettercap 17:32 < misl> [5] network/chrony [5] x11/ddcxinfo 17:32 < misl> [5] www/w3m [5] contrib/directfb 17:32 < misl> 1646 builds total, 485 completed fine, 12 with errors. 17:44 < rxr> hey misl 17:45 < rxr> finally, with a printk instrumented firmware loader in the kernel I found what weng booom on loading ipw2200 firmware on my subnotebook ... 17:45 < rxr> hotplug++ comaintainer jsaw around? 17:45 < _Ragnar_> what's a weng booom? 17:46 < rxr> hotplug++ messed it up ... 17:46 < rxr> the new kernel generate a remove even when the firmware file is loaded when the pseudo entry is removed in /sys 17:47 < rxr> I did not expected it and tried to load the firmware on either event source ... 17:47 < rxr> of course this messed up the 2nd and 3rd file with interleaved writes ... 17:47 < rxr> could have found out from user-land 17:47 < rxr> but I did not expect to look in that area ... 17:48 < _Ragnar_> O_O 17:51 < rxr> you name it 17:51 < rxr> lived with broken w-lan for nearly a week already ... 17:51 < rxr> and formerly it did not work always ... 17:52 < rxr> but I will not bore you with more details ... 17:52 < rxr> how is live in the US ? 18:03 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178179009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 18:03 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 18:03 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 18:03 [Users #t2] 18:03 [@ChanServ] [ demian ] [ misl ] [ nzg ] [ sepp_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 18:03 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly] 18:03 [ Baldzius] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 18:03 [ CIA-8 ] [ martin_tfh] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ zod ] 18:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 18:03 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 18:03 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 18:04 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 37 secs 18:08 -!- rxr__ [n=rene@e178180240.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 18:08 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 18:08 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 18:08 [Users #t2] 18:08 [@ChanServ] [ demian ] [ misl ] [ nzg ] [ rxr__ ] [ zod ] 18:08 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp_ ] [ _Ragnar_] 18:08 [ Baldzius] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 18:08 [ CIA-8 ] [ martin_tfh] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 18:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 18:09 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 18:09 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 18:09 < CIA-8> rene * r14838 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.desc: * updated hotplug++ (0.0.3 -> 0.0.4) - fixes firmware loading corruption 18:09 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 39 secs 18:13 < rxr__> valentin: the SuperH people are active enough to have implemented "This adds kexec() support for SH." - executing, aka. booting, a new kernel from within a running one ... 18:18 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178176063.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:19 < rxr__> so - off to susan soon I think 18:22 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178179009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:23 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 18:24 < karasz> moin all 18:26 < misl> Error logs from ref64-2.1-stable-x86-64-generic: 18:26 < misl> [1] base/linux24 [1] shells/pdksh 18:26 < misl> [3] base/gettext [5] base/linux24 18:26 < misl> [5] games/bsd-games [5] security/opensc 18:26 < misl> [5] graphic/transfig [5] network/ettercap 18:26 < misl> [5] network/chrony [5] x11/ddcxinfo 18:26 < misl> [5] www/w3m [5] contrib/directfb 18:26 < misl> [5] filesystem/siefs [5] emulators/gens 18:26 < misl> 1646 builds total, 530 completed fine, 14 with errors. 18:26 < misl> hi karasz 18:27 < karasz> hi minto 18:27 < karasz> i just popped in for a moment 18:27 < karasz> i wanted to appologize to you all 18:28 < karasz> i had a moment of untrustines (something like Thomas had once) 18:29 < karasz> and i took some wrong ways... 18:29 < karasz> and i paid the price 18:30 < misl> uhh? 18:31 < karasz> sometimes last thursday i messed up my KDE menues in T2 18:31 < karasz> so instead of takin care of it, after i fiddled with it some 10 minutes i gave up 18:31 < karasz> and i installed a Kanotix 18:32 < misl> ;) So what price did you pay? 18:32 < karasz> everything was beautifull until i tried to install xen 18:32 < karasz> it installed fine but 18:32 < karasz> after the reboot the hell begun 18:33 < karasz> first it did not boot because it canot find the partition to boot 18:33 < misl> Poor you, now you have even more mess 18:33 < karasz> i tried everything, reinstall grub, make the right partition active, the works 18:33 < karasz> nothing helped 18:34 < karasz> now i am home again ;) 18:34 < karasz> T2 2.1 runnin fine 18:34 < karasz> and i learned my lesson 18:34 < karasz> `not everything that is new and shiny worth your money` 18:35 < karasz> everything is clean again :) 18:35 < misl> Use a second system, so you do not mess up your primary system ;-) 18:35 < karasz> brand new partitions only with T2 on them 18:36 < karasz> sadly my second system is a *ows one 18:36 < karasz> and it must remain so 18:36 < karasz> :( 18:38 < karasz> morfoh, are you around? 18:40 < misl> 2.1 ref64 18:40 < misl> 1646 builds total, 541 completed fine, 14 with errors. 18:40 < misl> rest will have to wait till tomorrow :( 18:42 < _Ragnar_> :D 18:42 < rxr__> coon off 18:43 -!- You're now known as rxr 18:43 < rxr> soon 18:43 < karasz> moin rxr 18:44 < rxr> cu 18:53 -!- netrunner [n=andreas@anvame.net] has joined #t2 18:59 < valentin> cu rxr 18:59 < valentin> hi avm 19:25 -!- netrunne1 [n=andreas@anvame.net] has joined #t2 19:25 -!- netrunner [n=andreas@anvame.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:25 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 19:55 < rxr> re 19:55 < rxr> oh, hi netrunner 19:57 < netrunner> hi rxr. 19:57 < netrunner> rxr: this hotplug++ thing, can it be used with hal? 19:58 < karasz> guys i have a prob with kmail 19:58 < karasz> i cannot send mails 19:58 -!- Baldzius_ [n=baldzius@85.206.102.148] has joined #t2 19:59 < karasz> the process for smtp://.....IP..... protocol died unexpectedly 20:02 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:10 < rxr> netrunner: of course 20:10 < rxr> netrunner: though "we" and I use udev as multiplexer these days .. 20:11 < rxr> hotplug++ detects if called thru udev and does not multiplex the hotplug.d stuff then ... 20:11 < rxr> but hotplug++ stil supports this, already legacy, mode .. 20:11 < netrunner> rxr: I have drawbacks using udevsend in /proc...hotplug. some depending modules are not loaded etc... 20:12 < karasz> rxr can you give me a hand? 20:12 < netrunner> karasz: can you talk with the smtp server by hand? 20:12 < rxr> karasz: ouhm - have to finish university stuff ... 20:12 < rxr> netrunner: well, altough udev stuff just works, you must do something really strange or broken config, /proc/.../hotplug is not used anymore these days 20:13 < netrunner> karasz: find the module responsiple for smtp and see if it has problems, e.g. unresolved deps. 20:13 < rxr> udevd gets events thru the netlink socket .... 20:13 < netrunner> rxr: from kernel? 20:13 < karasz> smtp is fine 20:13 < netrunner> ? 20:13 < rxr> netrunner: yes, netlink is the way and way more efficient ... 20:13 < rxr> well, now I tell you want t2 has all ahead ... wondering when I see patches in submaster ... 20:13 < netrunner> rxr: does this need to be activated? is there a paper about it somewhere? 20:14 < rxr> though just using t2 woudl save you lots of time ... 20:14 < rxr> well - not much paper - jsut some competent people following the development of the open source world ... 20:14 < netrunner> rxr: I don't like the t2 development model 20:14 < rxr> disabling goes thru echo "" > /proc/.../hotplug 20:14 * rxr heh - me falling from the chair laughing ... 20:14 < rxr> have fun then 20:15 * rxr back to paper work ... 20:15 < netrunner> well, you see yourself you often have a broken head ... 20:15 < rxr> netrunner: excuse me ? 20:16 < karasz> 0.0 20:16 < valentin> netrunner: that is why we have development and stable tree 20:16 < karasz> head is supposed to breack now and then 20:16 < karasz> after all if nor iy would be `stable` 20:16 < rxr> netrunner: broken t2 trunk:HEAD ? 20:16 < rxr> barely ... 20:16 < valentin> HEAD may be messed up sometimes, but the more of us use head, the faster stuff is fixed 20:16 < karasz> don't you think? 20:17 < netrunner> valentin: well, stable trees don't get updated often enough :) 20:17 < rxr> hehe - how rock is messed up with each submaster bomb flush .. hitting svn ... 20:17 < netrunner> with rock head, I can be sure it builds and it has all latest stuf in. 20:17 < rxr> netrunner: lol ... 20:17 < valentin> mnemoc makes a good job maintaining 2.1 20:17 < rxr> that is the joke of the year ... 20:17 < netrunner> hey, stop it please, I am not here to discuss dick lengths. 20:17 < rxr> netrunner: on rock even trunk is outdated, btw 20:17 < owl> .oO( you love each other ) 20:17 < valentin> rxr, netrunner: i think it does not make much sense to start a flamewar here 20:17 < rxr> netrunner: you came to that conclusion yourself at CCC ... 20:18 < netrunner> rxr: this discussion is useless. 20:18 < rxr> valentin: I just relax ... 20:18 < rxr> in fact I find that quite entertaining ... 20:18 < rxr> good jokes are always welcome to make my evening .. 20:18 < valentin> whoever wants to stick with submaster, go for it. 20:18 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.159.116] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:19 * rxr wonders where mnemoc is hiding ... 20:19 < valentin> rxr: gone voting, i guess 20:19 < rxr> ah - damn guess gone counting voes, right ? 20:19 < rxr> forgot about that duty ... 20:20 < valentin> yep 20:20 < rxr> netrunner: in fact I wonder why rock is not more closely monitoring T2, you could save a lot of work pasting nearly ever T2 revision ... 20:20 < valentin> rxr: you want that ? 20:21 < netrunner> valentin: he can't avoid that :) 20:21 < rxr> it is GPL after all - if they do not mess the t2 copyright line they are fine doing so ... 20:21 < rxr> but I guess they do not want to admit that T2 is more than Intel's tiny leap ahead ... 20:21 < valentin> rxr: i think adding 7000+ patches would kill sm 20:22 < netrunner> rxr: you mean like you, removing all the rock copyright tags? 20:22 < valentin> netrunner: he never did 20:22 < netrunner> valentin: ah, right, I overread it :) 20:22 < valentin> the copyright note of the old stuff is still there (C) by Rocklinux 20:23 < rxr> netrunner: all files originated from ROCK that carried that note still have the Copyright ROCK Linxu project ... jadda jadda line ... 20:23 < rxr> not to forget I was repsonsible for 1/2 of the ROCK code base ... 20:24 < netrunner> rxr: and for splitting the rock community 20:24 < rxr> netrunner: if I would not have done 1.7-2.0 rock would be long dead 20:24 < valentin> netrunner : the rock community is still the old one 20:24 < rxr> clifford alone manged to drive users and developers away for a loooong time 20:24 < valentin> i.e. vienna and ingolstadt 20:25 < rxr> and when dRock merged it was more popular and stable then the never ending and never released 1.6 cycle ... 20:25 < rxr> I can nip on the tea chatting about that kind of history since lived it ... 20:26 < netrunner> valentin: well, I miss contact to the people that now only are at t2. 20:26 < valentin> netrunner: www.frappr.com/t2 20:26 < valentin> besides mnemoc and me, who is there still ? 20:26 < rxr> netrunner: guess if more than I left it had a reason 20:26 < valentin> ah jsaw i forgot 20:27 < rxr> and you should remeber the details as well 20:27 < rxr> though you are free to hang around here as well ... 20:28 -!- Baldzius_ is now known as Baldzius 20:28 < netrunner> valentin: you mean at rock? 20:29 < netrunner> rxr: I did not understand your comment about the congress. .. 20:29 < valentin> netrunner: i think he refers to your bof 20:29 < valentin> "dealing with a massively outdated trunk" 20:30 < Baldzius> ^^ - that's why i've switched to t2 20:31 < rxr> though t2 has more goodies than up-to-dateness .. 20:31 < Baldzius> hi netrunner :) 20:31 < Baldzius> yes , livecd target also 20:31 < netrunner> rxr: it has no package split. or has that changed by now? 20:31 < netrunner> hi Baldzius 20:31 < rxr> netrunner: heh - no #ifdef for us ... 20:31 -!- sparc-kly [n=ultra5@64.237.246.132] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:31 < valentin> and concerning HEAD vs. stable, the delay between updates is at most 4 weeks, that is less than some submaster patches take. 20:31 < rxr> netrunner: in package build e.g. for 3rd party kernel modules? has htat changed at rock? 20:31 < netrunner> rxr: so how do you keep out documentation and development stuff from systems that don't need it? 20:32 < rxr> netrunner: you are loosing this 20:32 < valentin> netrunner: we have more fine grained package config mechanisms 20:32 < rxr> netrunner: this is not interesting to handle on a package ganularity 20:32 < netrunner> rxr: I am not fighting, I cannot loose :P 20:32 < rxr> livecd and embedded stuff will just not include it into the image ... 20:32 < rxr> netrunner: but say, do you have sophisticated cross support? 20:32 < rxr> netrunner: C++ cross support ? 20:33 < netrunner> rxr: I don't know, I don't need it. 20:33 < rxr> netrunner: target image processing 20:33 < rxr> netrunner: seperated boot code ? 20:33 < rxr> netrunner: modular X ? 20:33 < rxr> ... 20:33 < rxr> .. 20:33 < rxr> netrunner: ok - I focus on uni work then ... 20:33 < valentin> rxr: our develpment model sucks, so... 20:33 < _Ragnar_> honestly, the package splitting was a reason for me to move away from rock 20:34 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ACK - first thing reverted ... after the fork *g* 20:34 < netrunner> _Ragnar_: well, you don't need to use it :) 20:34 < rxr> netrunner: btw. our mine handles vanilla tar* packages and does not crash that often 20:34 < rxr> netrunner: you might want to pull the patches ... 20:34 < _Ragnar_> theoretically .... in practice it adds unneeded complexity 20:34 < rxr> netrunner: at least the segfault fixes ... 20:34 < rxr> just a thought 20:35 < rxr> netrunner: not to mention that your x86-64 support is lacking ... 20:35 < valentin> me in the background now, i find this flaming here to boring 20:35 < rxr> netrunner: and I do not need to mention ppc64, mips64 among others ... 20:36 < rxr> cu all 20:38 < netrunner> valentin: you could /ignore rxr :) 20:39 < netrunner> valentin: the problem with rxr is, that he always explodes if you touch one of his sensitive topics. 20:40 < valentin> he does a hell of a good work anyway. 20:40 < valentin> and yes, ranting about sm vs. svn is a very sensitive topic - one of those which caused the fork. 20:40 < netrunner> valentin: most geniouses are like that :) 20:41 < valentin> btw: most ppl here prefer open HEAD over sm 20:41 < netrunner> valentin: this character trait is one of the main things that keeps me from switching. 20:41 < valentin> netrunner: fake and clifford are not much better ... 20:42 < valentin> and btw, since the fork rxr is much calmer than ever since rock 2.0 20:43 < _Ragnar_> indeed 20:43 < _Ragnar_> much more productive too =) 20:44 < Baldzius> :)) 20:44 < valentin> netrunner: somehow you managed to light his fuse again ;) 20:44 < karasz> ok guys 20:44 < karasz> have to hit tha sack 20:44 < karasz> Baldzius, ;) 20:44 < karasz> valentin 20:44 < valentin> karasz 20:45 < Baldzius> ? 20:46 < karasz> nothing, i was just kinda hello/bye greeting 20:46 < Baldzius> :) 20:46 < karasz> made in the english mode 20:46 < Baldzius> go with peace karasz :) 20:46 < valentin> karasz: i get a similar message with kmail, when i tunnel imap via ssh and the ssh connection dies 20:49 < karasz> valentin, that's not it 20:50 < karasz> it is a folder missundrestanding 20:50 < karasz> i solved it in the mean time 20:50 < valentin> :) 20:50 < karasz> the old `diy` method 20:53 < rxr> 20:40 < netrunner> valentin: most geniouses are like that :) 20:53 < rxr> ? 20:54 < rxr> flamewar where? 20:55 < rxr> just some arguments while nipping on a good tea is quite relaxing .. 20:55 < valentin> nowhere, just a misunderstanding ;) 20:55 < rxr> well /me just not falls into the "submaster geniouses" definition ... 20:56 < valentin> what is a submaster genius ? 20:56 < karasz> back for just 1 question 20:56 < rxr> 20:40 < netrunner> valentin: most geniouses are like that :) 20:56 < karasz> is it normal to have /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 in the same time? 20:56 < rxr> oh 20:56 < rxr> I read liek it ... 20:56 < rxr> heh 20:56 < valentin> rxr: yes, but what is a submaster genius ? 20:56 < karasz> /usr/lib is not symlink to /usr/lib64 20:57 < valentin> is this some kind of sm contributor rating ? 20:57 < rxr> valentin: no - I just misread netunners line in scrollback 20:57 < rxr> karasz: lib sould not be symlinked into lib64 20:57 < rxr> they are seperated intentionally ... 20:58 < karasz> i feared that 20:58 < rxr> ah 20:58 < rxr> yes it is normal on biarch systems to have lib and lib64 ... 20:58 < rxr> that is ppc64, sparc64, x86-64 and so on 20:58 < rxr> not alpha 20:58 < rxr> and only sometimes ia64 20:58 < rxr> karasz: why do you ask ? 20:59 < karasz> i had some problems with kmail 20:59 < rxr> karasz: what t2 version and architecture ? 20:59 < karasz> i almost moved files from lib to lib64 20:59 < karasz> 2.1 stable 20:59 < karasz> x86-64 20:59 < rxr> hm 21:00 < rxr> desktop ? 21:00 < karasz> i managed to move some files from lib to lib64 21:00 < karasz> yes 21:00 < rxr> karasz: I think this i before I fixed KDE for lib64 21:00 < karasz> seems like that resolved my kmail problem because now it is workin... 21:00 < rxr> do you have /opt/kde3/lib ? 21:00 < karasz> yep 21:00 < rxr> is it empty 21:00 < rxr> ? 21:00 < karasz> minute 21:00 < rxr> or was it empty before you moved stuf there ? 21:01 < karasz> so 21:01 < karasz> /opt/kde3/lib was empty 21:01 < rxr> and now ? 21:01 < karasz> i made it to sumplinc /opt/kde3/lib64 21:01 < rxr> ah -ok 21:01 < rxr> symlink is fine 21:01 < karasz> kde won't even start before that 21:01 < rxr> and in fact works around a kde config problem 21:02 < rxr> I fixed this in trunk last week or so 21:02 < karasz> but i was talkin' abt /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 21:02 < rxr> need to merge that and a openssl fix into stable for the last release 21:02 < rxr> karasz: no - leave those as they where ... 21:02 < karasz> ok 21:02 < karasz> btw 21:02 < rxr> for kde without the real fix (which requires rebuildign anyway) just /opt/kde3/ symlink is fine 21:03 < karasz> lzo package seems to be broken.. 21:03 < rxr> why ? 21:03 < karasz> i mean it builds fine but pack which depend on it break on build 21:03 < rxr> fails in stage 0 = 21:03 < rxr> hm 21:04 < rxr> worked so far here 21:04 < karasz> last time an Emerge -force lzo (after addin FPIC-QUIRK) solved 21:04 < rxr> well - I have to sleep now - to finish uni stuff in the early early morning 21:04 < karasz> the problem 21:04 < karasz> cu rxr 21:04 < rxr> karasz: ah FPIC-QUIRK that might be 21:04 < rxr> karasz: still needed ? 21:04 < valentin> sleep well rxr 21:04 < karasz> i can fix that for my system but i thought that i should tell someone 21:05 < rxr> valentin: I'll try to have some nice submaster dreams ... 21:05 < rxr> karasz: so FPIC-QUIRK still needed for lzo ? 21:06 < karasz> i will check and give an answer tomorow 21:06 < valentin> rxr stop joking about theese poor people... 21:06 < karasz> but as i remember yes 21:06 < rxr> valentin: you are so right 21:07 < rxr> valentin: I light one of susan's candles for those 21:07 < rxr> karasz: ouhm - editor already open .. 21:08 < rxr> karasz: what failed ? lzop ? 21:08 < karasz> minute 21:08 < karasz> nope 21:08 < karasz> gnutls fails because lzo is not fPIC 21:09 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/liblzo.a(lzo_init.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC 21:09 < karasz> /usr/lib64/liblzo.a: could not read symbols: Bad value 21:09 < rxr> karasz: ok 21:10 < karasz> and while we are on the topic 21:10 < CIA-8> rene * r14839 /trunk/package/archiver/lzo/lzo.desc: 21:10 < CIA-8> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 21:10 < CIA-8> * marked lzo FPIC-QUIRK, as needed (x86-64) 21:10 < karasz> someone should check mozilla download 21:10 < rxr> karasz: ! I wanted to bed ... 21:10 < rxr> karasz: oum 21:10 < karasz> sorry 21:10 < rxr> tomorrow ... 21:10 < karasz> ;) 21:10 < rxr> heh 21:10 < rxr> n8 all 21:10 < rxr> netrunner: too - have nice dreams ... 21:10 < karasz> sleep well rxr 21:10 < rxr> ... from a better World ... 21:19 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.88] has joined #t2 21:47 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 21:53 < martin_tfh> oh, gn8 rxr 21:53 < martin_tfh> and gn8 all. i will sleep, too 21:54 -!- martin_tfh [n=martin@p54BDFC74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["und wech ..."] 22:15 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:23 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF9D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:46 < CIA-8> aldas * r14840 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.3.7 -> 1.3.8) --- Log closed Mon Jan 16 00:00:24 2006