--- Log opened Fri Jan 13 00:00:02 2006 --- Day changed Fri Jan 13 2006 00:00 < karasz> isp troubles? 00:00 < mnemoc> sure, as every day at this hour when i ride from office to home + shower :) 00:00 < karasz> ahum 00:00 < karasz> oki 00:01 < karasz> i won't `good night` you then 00:01 < mnemoc> :) 00:01 < karasz> i guess you will be awake for some time.. 00:01 < demian> gn8 karasz 00:01 < mnemoc> i'll be here at least 4 more hours :) 00:01 < karasz> 02:01 AM here so 00:01 < mnemoc> gn8 karasz ,-) 00:01 < demian> [18:15] 00:01 < karasz> time to go home from office i guess.. 00:02 < karasz> and end a not very glorious day 00:02 < mnemoc> demian: you need a ntp 00:02 < demian> u say i am unsynced ? 00:03 < demian> yes i am anyways. 00:04 < mnemoc> :) 00:05 < demian> i like to feel i am some minutes forward in comparison with other ppl. 00:07 < mnemoc> :) 00:15 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 00:15 < madtux> hello. 00:15 < demian> madtux. 00:16 < madtux> d3bian. 00:16 < mnemoc> bian? 00:16 < madtux> :) 00:16 < demian> tuanis. 00:16 < madtux> mae en todas :) 00:16 < madtux> vos que pura vida? 00:17 < demian> ahi ahi, jugandomela. 00:17 < madtux> cool :) 00:30 < demian> bye 00:33 -!- veki [n=chatzill@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 00:40 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFED61.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:56 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFBFBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:10 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF9FCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:47 < mnemoc> *yawn* 05:50 < LMJ> hello mnemoc 05:57 < mnemoc> i'm going to sleep now :) 05:57 < mnemoc> gn8 LMJ ,-) 05:58 < LMJ> almost 7h am here 05:58 < mnemoc> almost 3am here 05:58 < LMJ> i woke up because i can't not sleep anymore 05:58 < LMJ> have a good night 05:58 < mnemoc> i go to sleep just when i can't stay awake 05:59 < mnemoc> and if i'm not tired i just pass through 05:59 < mnemoc> but the bike is increasing my sleep hours :\ 05:59 < mnemoc> gn8 06:00 < rxr> hi 06:00 < rxr> n8 mnemoc 06:00 < rxr> thanks for the long mail 06:02 < LMJ> already up rxr ? 06:15 < rxr> jups 06:15 < rxr> usually I'm up rather earlier than later 06:15 < rxr> and additionally I awaited communique from taiwan and thus wanted to ensure I'm able to reply before they leave the office again - they are +8h or so 06:23 < LMJ> you are dealing with taiwan for your company business ? 06:24 < rxr> sort of 06:46 < madtux> hey guys. 07:00 < rxr> hey miguel 07:01 < madtux> howdy ? 07:03 < rxr> yeah - how are you ? 07:05 < madtux> i'm ok... moving some stuff between the racks... and doing some firewalling stuff 07:07 < rxr> ic 07:09 < madtux> business doing ok? 07:09 < rxr> yep 07:09 < madtux> great :) 07:16 < CIA-9> rene * r14776 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.desc: * added Url tag to silo 07:25 < CIA-9> rene * r14777 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.desc: * updated silo (1.4.9 -> 1.4.10) 07:31 < rxr> madtux: how is sparc on your side these days ? 08:19 < madtux> well its there at home... i honestly haven't spend much time buidling or developing stuff lately.. much projects at work consuming me 08:24 < mtr_> moin 08:24 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 08:30 < mtr> firefox and thunderbird fail in preconf hook evaluation 08:31 < mtr> - [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && echo ac_cv_visibility_pragma=no >> .mozconfig 08:31 < mtr> + if [ $libdir = *lib64 ] ; then 08:31 < mtr> + echo ac_cv_visibility_pragma=no >> .mozconfig 08:31 < mtr> + fi 08:32 < mtr> ^--- works 08:46 < rxr> mtr: ack, commit 08:51 < CIA-9> mtr * r14778 /trunk/package/ (mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf www/firefox/firefox.conf): * fixed preconf hook evaluation for firefox and thunderbird 09:09 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:31 < rxr> hm 09:31 < rxr> why is all the recent tech stuff that el-cheapo? 09:31 < rxr> not only that this Sony Ericsson does have strange noise peaks between songs, no, the included headphones are also extreme junk and one can not even plug in own ones ... 09:33 < rxr> so - now I have Sony Erisson HPM-70, and they do not sound that much better ... 09:34 < rxr> but at least they come with a 3,5mm headphone plug in the middle so I can inject some other phone, and indeed my good older headphones have a way smoother freqyenct spread ... 09:34 < rxr> damn 09:37 < rxr> whatever the type of this older phones was ... 09:39 < rxr> Frequency Response: 6 - 23,000 Hz 09:39 < rxr> hahahaha 09:40 < rxr> on what unlinearity I do not want to know ... 09:44 < rxr> hm 09:44 < rxr> on the amplifier with the new 3.5mm output cable the cell does not as bad as I feared ... 09:44 < rxr> though neither delta1010, yamaha minidisc, or sgi Octane quality ... 09:45 < rxr> must be a rather cheap and ugly mp3 decoder chip and d/a converted in the Sony Erisson k750i ... 09:57 < CIA-9> rene * r14779 /trunk/architecture/ (powerpc/kernel.conf.m4 powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4): * synced powerpc and powerpc64 kernel config 10:46 < rxr> google: parallel make linux 2.6 10:46 < rxr> last hit on the first page, t2 ... 10:57 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178154146.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 10:57 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 10:57 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jan 12 19:40:21 2006] 10:57 [Users #t2] 10:57 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 10:57 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 10:57 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_] [ zod ] 10:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 10:57 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 10:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 31 secs 11:00 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178158122.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 11:23 < rxr_> http://golem.de/0601/42705.html 11:23 < rxr_> `- someone is paying 850EUR ++ .. .? 11:25 < rxr_> ah, gpl + commerical licensing ... 11:25 < rxr_> that looks more reasonable ... ,-) 11:26 < rxr_> hm, strange 11:26 < rxr_> I wonder why manually a kernel build parallizes more when the in t2 build does build mostly serially ... 11:26 < rxr_> strange 11:50 -!- You're now known as rxr 12:13 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has joined #t2 12:13 < owl> hi 12:14 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE9B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 12:14 < morfoh> moin 12:15 < rxr> moin morfoh 12:15 < rxr> hi owl 12:15 < morfoh> rxr: hey rxr :) 12:15 < morfoh> hi owl :) 12:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I did some mojor linux* cleanup 12:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I could do even more and remove the custmain ... I guess you would enjoy that ? ... 12:16 < morfoh> rxr: I ordered the wrtg54gl-de but I will get it on the 18th. 12:17 < morfoh> rxr: I wanted to get sure to get the v4.0 12:17 < morfoh> I will check in openwrt2 today 12:18 < morfoh> rxr: I think we should take the time for trying to get a running mips kernel 12:19 < rxr> I have a running mips kernel on my sgi 12:19 < morfoh> oh! cool 12:20 < morfoh> btw, was your proposal for a t2 article finally approved ? 12:21 < karasz> moin all 12:21 < rxr> morfoh: nope, but I think that is no problem, they are just busy ... 12:21 < morfoh> moin karasz 12:27 < karasz> hmmm.... 12:27 [Users #t2] 12:27 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ zod ] 12:27 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 12:27 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ valentin] 12:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 12:28 < karasz> i ahte that banks use portals which run only on IE 12:28 < karasz> it makes me angry 12:28 < karasz> gfrrrrrr..... 12:28 * karasz is lookin' for a computer with *dows on it :( 12:30 < owl> hehe 12:30 < owl> poor karasz 12:41 < karasz> moin owl :) 12:47 < karasz> bbl 12:47 < morfoh> cu karasz san 12:58 < owl> someone willed to spend me a tft? *smile* 12:59 < morfoh> owl: I just wanted to ask the same question :p 12:59 < owl> morfoh: damnit :( 13:00 < morfoh> owlitta .... don't be sad about just material things 13:00 < rxr> re 13:01 < morfoh> wb senor rxr 13:01 < rxr> heh 13:01 < owl> morfoh: nah. i need one because those CRTs are causing headache... 13:02 < morfoh> did anyone ever expperienced problems installing zlib ... I mean while doing a fresh install from an ISO ? 13:04 < morfoh> owl: yeah ... I know. those "ray canons" aren't that healthy 13:06 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14781 /trunk/package/mail/maildrop/ (maildrop.conf maildrop.desc): 13:06 < CIA-9> * update maildrop (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1) 13:06 < CIA-9> * copyright updates 13:06 < owl> morfoh: ack. especially with 800 x 600 resolution and 50 - 60 hz 13:06 < morfoh> owl: ouch 13:07 < owl> morfoh: yeah :) 13:08 < owl> http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/product_info.php/displays/hyundai/17_hyundai_imagequest_b70a <- what do you think about it? 13:09 < morfoh> from the case it looks like the tft's sold by HP/Compaq ... is that the cheapest one you found ? 13:10 < owl> nope. not the cheapest. just the one with the best "preis/leistungsverhaeltnis". 13:11 < morfoh> but it's looking ok ... but I'm not the big TFT expert 13:12 < LMJ> hello morfoh and owl 13:12 < LMJ> can i comment this TFT ? 13:12 < owl> ack. and if it is not ok, you can say "i don't want it" and send it back. 13:12 < owl> hi LMJ . yeah. 13:12 < morfoh> bonjour LMJ :) 13:12 < LMJ> bonjour 13:13 < LMJ> sound like a recent Samsung TFT screen 13:13 < morfoh> owl: what ? I doubt that it is legal, because you should have the right to send it back 13:13 < LMJ> Kontrast : 700:1 <--- pretty good, min is 500, max ~ 1000 13:14 < LMJ> 300 cd/m² <---- that's a little low, it should be closer to 500 cd/m2 13:14 < owl> morfoh: hm? "fernabsatzgesetz". 13:14 < LMJ> 1280 x 1024 infortunatly normal for a 17" 13:15 < LMJ> Reaktionszeit : 8 ms <--- quite good, average are around 12ms and going down to 8ms, better are under 6,5ms 13:15 < morfoh> owl: anyhow ... I'd not buy a TFT online, because you can't check for pixel errors 13:15 < LMJ> what utilisation you will do with this one ? 13:16 < owl> morfoh: yeah, but you can't buy it in my city. just 2 HW-shops in 30 km arround ND. 13:16 < owl> LMJ: well. developing, as 2nd screen near my laptop-tft 13:16 < rxr> morfoh: I only would buy them online 13:16 < LMJ> looks ok for your needs owl 13:17 < rxr> since most stores does not let you test them anyway and when you buy online you can send back withint 14 days without giving a reason 13:17 < owl> LMJ: yeah ;) 13:17 < rxr> so oder, test 13:17 < owl> hi rxr 13:17 < owl> my words ;) 13:17 < rxr> and if there is something not good, e.g. pixel error or other brokenness just return just with "don't like it" 13:17 < morfoh> rxr: ok .... 13:18 < morfoh> rxr: thanks for the hint ;) 13:18 < morfoh> owl: http://www.hardwareschotte.de/hardware/preise/proid_8010064/preis_HYUNDAI+ImageQuest+B70A 13:18 < LMJ> have you check samsung ? 13:19 < owl> LMJ: nah. and i will never, never, never buy HW made by samsung... 13:19 < LMJ> TFT are good 13:19 < LMJ> ;) 13:20 < owl> morfoh: thx ;) 13:20 < morfoh> owl: yw ;) 13:20 < morfoh> rxr: you had ViewSonic ... right ? 13:20 < owl> LMJ: well... had one notebook... after 3 repairs of dead HDDs i gave it back. and i had a HDD. i also brought it back... everything went into dead HW after some weeks (expect the one HDD.) 13:21 < morfoh> owl: ack ... Samsung HDD's are known to be crap 13:21 < LMJ> do not make a generality owl, i worked on a Computer shop during one year ;) 13:21 < LMJ> Things i remenber : Dell PC for publis are CRAP 13:21 < CIA-9> rene * r14782 /trunk/package/base/linux24/ (linux-conf.in linux24.conf): 13:21 < CIA-9> * refactored crufty generic linux package code and made sure it builds 13:21 < CIA-9> in parallel 13:21 < owl> morfoh: hehe. well, why are they inserted into laptops then? and why earn those laptops "test: very good"? :) 13:22 < rxr> morfoh: yes view sonic 13:22 < morfoh> owl: guess because they are cheap :p 13:22 < owl> LMJ: well. at least my expierences with the "hotline" e.g. are more then bad. 13:22 < owl> morfoh: sigh. :/ 13:23 < owl> money is not all, is it? :( 13:24 < morfoh> owl: remember in what kind of society you're living ... then you'll be able to answer it yourself ;) 13:24 < owl> morfoh: ok, ok, i forgot :) 13:24 < morfoh> owl: don't forget it the next time pls :p 13:25 < owl> morfoh: i will try. 13:25 < morfoh> owl: good 13:25 < owl> :) 13:26 < owl> .oO( sigh. how could i forget... had an job interview some days ago. with a person who really was *** "geldgeil") 13:40 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178128192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:40 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 13:40 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jan 12 19:40:21 2006] 13:40 [Users #t2] 13:40 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 13:40 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ zod ] 13:40 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp] [ _Ragnar_] 13:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 13:40 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 13:41 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 13:41 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 30 secs 13:49 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178154146.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 13:49 < mnemoc> moin! 13:49 < rxr_> moin! 13:50 < morfoh> hola! senor mnemoc :) 13:50 < mnemoc> hi rxr_ :) 13:50 < mnemoc> feel free to decustmainize linux* :) i have enough fun with native-dietlibc and ooo/java :p 13:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: did you ever had problems installing zlib package from a fresh 2.1.1 ISO ? 13:51 < mnemoc> not that i remember 13:53 -!- You're now known as rxr 13:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... strange. Taniform had the problem while trying to install the voipgw 13:54 < mnemoc> uhm 13:54 < mnemoc> what kind of problem? 13:54 < morfoh> it just hung while trying to install zlib 13:55 < morfoh> everything else before was ok he said 13:59 < mnemoc> did he write the error displayed on screen? 14:00 < morfoh> mnemoc I'll get the error message in the evening ... he is away atm 14:03 < mnemoc> nice :) 14:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: lets see ... meanwhile I'll check that locally 14:08 < mnemoc> http://gobby.0x539.de/index.html <--- package anyone? 14:09 < morfoh> It uses GTK+ 2.6 as its windowing toolkit and thus integrates nicely into the GNOME desktop environment. <-- uhhhh! /me shaking :p 14:11 < morfoh> .oO( can someone kick our prelude maintainer ... again missed a version update )o 14:12 < Baldzius> :) 14:12 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :) 14:12 < Baldzius> hi morfoh, mnemoc :) 14:12 < morfoh> Baldzius: guess I've to do it on my own :p 14:12 < Baldzius> to do what? :) 14:13 < morfoh> Baldzius: updating prelude stuff :p 14:13 < Baldzius> morfoh: don't forget strongswan :) 14:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: I just tell you ... that you'll not waste your time ... "Master of updating" :) 14:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: thanks ... so kick the strongswan maintainer too ;) 14:14 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius 14:14 < mnemoc> Baldzius: http://gobby.0x539.de/index.html :D 14:15 < Baldzius> mnemoc: 've already added to my _TODO_ 14:15 < morfoh> .oO( mnemoc seems to be in motivating mode)o 14:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: :D 14:15 < mnemoc> morfoh: bah 14:15 < Baldzius> maybe someone wants to play with gnash, it p* me totally 14:15 < Baldzius> it compiles just .conf is ugly and hardcoded 14:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: what does your "bah" means ? 14:17 < mnemoc> morfoh: if i would be able to motivate someone we would have a new website long time ago 14:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: I know you tried everything to motivate him ... so don't be that hard to yourself :| 14:21 * rxr burning the next minimal-ppc64 iso ... 14:21 < CIA-9> chris * r14783 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * udpated libprelude (0.9.1 -> 0.9.3) 14:21 * rxr wonders when this damned open firmware will recognize the CD as bootable ... 14:22 < mnemoc> i messure people by what they do, not what they want to do. and i have been unable to finish anything 14:22 < CIA-9> chris * r14784 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3) 14:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course every person can "implement" their own measuring methods ... but I think yours is quite accurate :/ 14:28 < rxr> diff -r -U 1 cdrtools-2.01 cdrtools-2.01-nonverb/ > package/filesystem/cdrtools/no-junk.patch 14:28 < mnemoc> :D 14:28 < rxr> `- this damn fluff finally hit my nerves too badly ... 14:28 < rxr> commit after a testbuild ... 14:28 < mnemoc> hey, can you improve -scanbus ? 14:29 < rxr> hm whe? 14:29 < rxr> I exclusively use dev=/dev/... 14:29 < mnemoc> me too 14:30 < rxr> why -scanbus then ? 14:30 < mnemoc> some apps use it 14:30 < rxr> hm 14:30 < mnemoc> and as it returns cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. 14:30 < rxr> I would rather patch it away fro the apps ... 14:30 < mnemoc> cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. 14:30 < mnemoc> cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. 14:30 < mnemoc> the app has to be set everytime to use the hardcoded path 14:31 < rxr> I seldom have issues with that and my users that are on KDE and K3B ... 14:31 < mnemoc> :) 14:31 * mnemoc rsyncing at 4.73kB/s to gsmp :'( 14:35 < CIA-9> chris * r14785 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (2.5.7 -> 2.6.0) 14:38 < rxr> test 14:39 < owl> rxr: ? 14:39 < rxr> had some lag 14:39 < owl> ah 14:42 < karasz> re 14:42 < morfoh> wb karasz 14:42 < karasz> thanks morfoh san 14:57 < demian> hi 14:57 < mnemoc> wb karasz, demian 14:57 < mnemoc> owlita! 14:58 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.152.131.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 15:02 < mnemoc> wb sepp_ 15:05 < LMJ> morning mnemoc 15:05 < mnemoc> hi LMJ 15:05 < karasz> moin sepp SerWou & co 15:06 < LMJ> moin karasz, sepp 15:06 < mnemoc> rxr: no caterpilar was decent enough as pre-mascot-logo? 15:07 < karasz> btw catepillar 15:07 < mnemoc> :p 15:08 < mnemoc> sorry 15:08 < LMJ> mnemoc loves big engines who smokes a lot 15:08 < LMJ> ;) 15:08 < mnemoc> :) 15:08 < rxr> no idea 15:09 < rxr> was the some final form? 15:09 < rxr> e.g. from the settlers of catan artist ? 15:09 < rxr> I do not like the caterpillar as it too much 15:09 < rxr> I thought more about something like a pretty butterfly when this idea first came up 15:09 < rxr> e.g. the logo should be something rather pretty 15:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: promised some drawings, but nothing yet afaik 15:10 < rxr> I have my doubts if too many people will find a bare caterpillar too pretty as it ... 15:10 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. all is open 15:10 < rxr> I just posted my brothers sketching as other ideas I would not chose any of the so far made proposals as it ... 15:10 < rxr> all is open ... 15:12 < CIA-9> rene * r14786 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrtools/no-junk.patch: 15:12 < CIA-9> * patched away all the junk in cdrtools that got on my nerves for 15:12 < CIA-9> far too long time already 15:12 < rxr> so 15:12 < rxr> more than in my initial patch 15:12 < rxr> far too much junk in that code ... 15:12 < rxr> so /me rebooting to see what the firmware does with the new minimal64 iso.... 15:13 < mnemoc> cdrtools' author trolls too much against linux 15:13 < karasz> so 15:14 < karasz> btw catepillar 15:14 < karasz> http://www.immersivetechnologies.com/Images/machine/cat797.jpg 15:14 < karasz> :D 15:14 < karasz> or better http://berny79.altervista.org/Documenti/Immagini/Cat797.jpg 15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: my country lives from minery 15:15 < mnemoc> karasz: there are trucks here 3 times those you showed 15:16 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.157.106.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:16 < karasz> really? 15:16 < karasz> i thought that catepillar is the greatest... 15:16 < mnemoc> a person is less than half of the radious of the wheels 15:17 < karasz> second image 15:17 < mnemoc> those persons are of the size of the radius 15:17 < karasz> ahm 15:17 < karasz> i thought of diametre 15:17 < karasz> mnemoc: model? 15:17 < mnemoc> no idea, let me see if a find something 15:18 < mnemoc> that machinery is used at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuquicamata btw 15:18 < rxr> re 15:18 < rxr> hm 15:18 < rxr> of course it did not boot :-( 15:18 < mnemoc> :( 15:18 < rxr> too bad t2 is the only system really documenting hat to do to create boot cds ... 15:18 < rxr> so no easy cut'n paste from others ... 15:19 < karasz> T 282B :D 15:19 < rxr> e.g. the gentoo code sucks and the catalyst fluff does not do really something differently 15:20 < karasz> mnemoc: http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/worlds-largest-truck-016525.php still diametre but it was in 2004 15:20 < LMJ> ROTFL 15:21 < mnemoc> karasz: imagine the machines to load those trucks :) 15:21 < mnemoc> http://www.codelco.com/imagenes/corporacion/divisiones/norte/ficha.jpg <--- no good picture yet :( 15:22 < morfoh> oh my ... oh my ... but we should consider that it's quite hard to move that kind of truck :p 15:23 < karasz> yup 15:23 < karasz> thoose are special escavators which handle at least 50 m3 dirt at once 15:23 < mnemoc> i'm sure i have seen pictures of trucks bigger than that... but where :\ 15:28 < mnemoc> now i think it was just 'perspective' 15:29 < karasz> are those Komatsu? 15:30 < mnemoc> http://www.tandemove-seskoky.cz/data/USR_039_DEFAULT/Chuquicamata__medeny_dul.jpg <--- parking area :) 15:31 < mnemoc> no idea 15:31 < karasz> http://mischa2000.de/ 15:31 < karasz> teknik 15:31 < karasz> truks 15:33 < mnemoc> LMJ: emelfm2 package patch doesn't have author, and [U] is broken 15:36 < karasz> guys i have a rar and file gives me: RAR archive data, v1d, os: Win32 15:36 < karasz> can i open it...? 15:36 < owl> unrar? 15:37 < karasz> i thought of ark ... but it doesn't cope with it 15:38 < mnemoc> unrar is packaged 15:39 < mnemoc> http://tblogs.bootsnall.com/fa//archives/images/IMG_0491.JPG <--- all are wheel = '2xperson' :( 15:44 < rxr> re 15:45 < karasz> mnemoc: unrar is pakaged... but it gets confused by win path separator... 15:46 < mnemoc> o_O 15:46 < karasz> the file is a win archiwe containing `\` 15:46 < karasz> not /` 15:46 < mnemoc> and it fails due to that?? 15:47 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/ please 15:49 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14787 /trunk/package/ (mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.conf www/firefox/firefox.conf): * fix typo introduced in r14778 ([[ ... ]] not [ ... ]) 15:50 < rxr> btw. jsaw I would use some other detection when you build ppc64 - x86-64 without multilib this thing fails ... 15:51 < rxr> I would check for 64 bit pointers ... 15:51 < jsaw> ? 15:51 < rxr> if [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] ; then 15:51 < rxr> nothing todo with that issue ... 15:51 < rxr> with a multilib less and thus /lib not lib64 64bit build this will not be run ... 15:52 < jsaw> we have actually way more problems with the whole lib64 etal thing... 15:52 < jsaw> a complete check is needed... 15:52 < rxr> I propose [ $arch_sizeof_char_p = 8 ] ... 15:52 < jsaw> there are quite some places, where .../lib is hardcoded into configure scripts 15:52 < rxr> jsaw: yes but there is not much left 15:53 < jsaw> so, libdir as well as that have to be re-checked 15:53 < rxr> I work on the resulting systems since months without issues ... 15:53 < jsaw> rxr: did you recently compile python? 15:53 < rxr> hm - most probably within my usual builds 15:53 < jsaw> it compiles, yes 15:54 < mnemoc> rxr: if targetarchis64; then :) 15:54 < jsaw> but due to hardcoded values in Setup.in, a lot of checks failed 15:54 < jsaw> so, I assume, way more configure scripts are wrong 15:54 < jsaw> or pam_ldap 15:55 < rxr> jsaw: maybe - my plan is to fix packages that throw files into the wrong libdir and the remaining stuff where feature are not used due to buggy configure review on-demand 15:55 < jsaw> if I didn't try compile it only with openldap, we wouldn't have noticed that it won't find the openldap libs... 15:56 < mnemoc> rxr: do we wnat lib-$arch on dietlibc? doing ILIBDIR= instead of LIBDIR= would solve that 15:57 < rxr> we could leave dietlibc as it is now until we do the next big rearrangement in favour to not introduce new regressions again ... 15:57 < Baldzius> jsaw: i told about that with gnash, configure cript is really acting strange 15:57 < Baldzius> and i saw really strange paths 15:58 < jsaw> rxr: I would like to have to more functions, one that returns the libdir-suffix, and one the target architecture bits 15:58 < jsaw> two more * 15:58 < rxr> we already have this variables 15:58 < jsaw> which? 15:58 < rxr> target architecture bits should be equivalent to what I pasted 15:58 < rxr> [ $arch_sizeof_char_p = 8 ] 15:59 < rxr> those in archtest.{out,sh} 15:59 < jsaw> acceptible, but in terms of readability, I'd prefer bits... 15:59 < jsaw> rxr: and library suffix? 15:59 < rxr> that is what configure uses as well, thus the name 16:00 < rxr> what was your problem with libdir ? 16:00 < jsaw> as you mentioned, there might be more than just "lib64", e.g libnof or so 16:00 < rxr> sure, but libdir is set accordingly 16:01 < jsaw> [[ $libdir != *lib ]] is not very handy 16:01 < jsaw> [ "$libdirsuffix" ] would be much more nice 16:01 < jsaw> and more general 16:02 < rxr> libdirsuffix={libdir##*/} 16:02 < rxr> insert missing $ 16:02 < jsaw> yeah, but central 16:02 < rxr> feel free to define it in the setconfopt or where the libdir is set along libdir 16:02 < jsaw> oh, no I meant 16:02 < jsaw> libdirsuffix=${libdir##*/lib} 16:03 < jsaw> rxr: may I, ok, I'll do 16:03 < rxr> hm 16:03 < rxr> why just the end, where do you need that ? 16:03 < rxr> (asside the ugly kde configure scripts) 16:03 < jsaw> python, pam_ldap, ... 16:03 < rxr> ugly and kde in one line, no no - i meant misguided or so ... ,-) 16:03 < jsaw> I tell you, there are more hidden places than we know of... 16:03 < jsaw> configure scripts may fail silently 16:04 < rxr> well, sure, but isn't the libdir needed more often anyway 16:04 < jsaw> by just not adding some functionality somebody might expect 16:04 < rxr> you always can get just the suffix by peeling of the libdir name as it ... 16:04 < jsaw> I know, but ${libdir##*/lib} is not very obviously readable 16:05 < mnemoc> ack 16:05 < rxr> but two more variables just to plesae shell novices ? 16:05 < rxr> well, go for them 16:05 < jsaw> only one, I already declined in the case of arch_sizeof_char_p 16:05 < jsaw> ;) 16:05 < rxr> I just wonder if we really should add two convience variables too easily .. 16:06 < rxr> jsaw: well, ok, but still just the suffix? 16:06 < rxr> often the ${libdir##*/} is needed 16:06 < jsaw> yep, look for example into python.conf 16:06 < rxr> when you want to avoid peeling on variables you would need two libdir related helper vars ... 16:06 < jsaw> (and believe me, there are more places like that) 16:07 * mnemoc prefer helper functions 16:07 < mnemoc> if world_sucks; then 16:07 < jsaw> I'll add a check for hardcoded */lib directories now, locally 16:08 < jsaw> and hope, not too many packages do this... 16:08 < jsaw> but I fear, most packages that use software installed in /opt are affected... 16:10 < jsaw> gotta go now, cu later 16:11 < karasz> cu jsaw 16:11 < morfoh> cu jsaw 16:12 < karasz> btw 16:12 < karasz> story of the day 16:12 < karasz> girl goes on vacation in foreign land 16:12 < karasz> beautifull place sea side and so 16:12 < karasz> girl enjoys her vacation very much 16:13 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14788 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/ (gnome-speech.conf gnome-speech.desc): 16:13 < CIA-9> * set java-home to "none" if java-gnome is not available 16:13 < CIA-9> * copyright updates 16:13 < karasz> in fdact so much that she runs out of money 16:13 < karasz> now she must return home, take a flight 16:13 < mnemoc> karasz: girl is taking vacations from you? 16:14 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14789 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * update vserver kernel patch (2.6.15-rc7-vs2.0.1 -> 2.6.15-vs2.0.1.2) 16:14 < karasz> in the airport she realises that she hasn't got the required amount of money to buy a tocket 16:14 < mnemoc> *G* 16:14 < karasz> s/tocket/ticket 16:14 < karasz> so she begins performing a live strip show to colect the required amount :D 16:15 < karasz> male by passers were out of luck because yhe police intervened before it got really interesting .... 16:15 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14790 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif-gtk/libexif-gtk.desc: * libexif-gtk must be build at a later point 16:15 < jsaw> *gone really now* - cu 16:15 < rxr> hm 16:15 < rxr> cu jsaw 16:15 < karasz> gorl now has the amount of money required, but cannot go home because she is in jail 16:16 < karasz> the story is real and happened today in .mx 16:16 < rxr> burning on the dual-core is no fun yet - each time a different checksum ... 16:18 < karasz> mnemoc: nah 16:18 < rxr> karasz: where do you get these stories from? inbox spam ? 16:19 < morfoh> :D 16:19 < demian> how can i merge the contents of a t2/download dir to another t2-versionXX/download dir without conflicts doing this right ? 16:20 < demian> did a cp -rfv 16:20 < karasz> rxr no 16:20 < karasz> radio 16:21 < karasz> i thought it was funny 16:21 < rxr> karasz: heh, yeah ,-) 16:21 < rxr> karasz: just continue to post the story of the day to us /me is getting used to it 16:21 < mnemoc> demian: -alt-dir makes hardlinks 16:21 < karasz> btw girl is from Baltic, blonde green eyes and suposedly very beautifull ;) 16:22 < mnemoc> and download dir can be a symlink 16:22 < demian> ok 16:22 * karasz seems to be transforming in entertainer of #T2 :D 16:22 < demian> doing a listing: 16:22 < demian> 802 16:22 < demian> 1327 16:22 < mnemoc> i have t2-download/$version/ and t2-$version/download pointing to ../t2-download/$version 16:23 < mnemoc> and Download always called with -alt-dir ../t2-download 16:23 < demian> 802 are unknown, 1327 are missing.. did that when merged download dirs. 16:24 < mnemoc> demian: move it to t2-download/mixup, and then Download -required on others pointing to that alt-dir 16:24 < mnemoc> demian: then you rm -rf mixup :) 16:24 < mnemoc> brb 16:30 < karasz> cu mnemoc 16:37 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:40 < demian> did another way, but thank mnemoc. 16:40 < demian> -alt-dir was useful/ 16:46 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 16:47 < demian> for file in `cut -d: -f2 unknown | sed -s "s/^ //g" | sed -s "s/^download/\.\.\/download\/trunk/g"` ; do rm -fv $file ; done 16:47 < demian> :) removed conflicting files for that version. 16:49 < demian> now i will cksum them.. 16:52 < rxr> I find it quite annoying that all the intesting low level details are so hidden in the others dists ... 16:53 < rxr> I make a lot of crosses in the calender when I have a t2 CD booting on the dual core 17:00 < rxr> hah! 17:00 < rxr> found something ... 17:03 < rxr> karasz: I also tracked some low-level info regarding booting open power 17:03 < rxr> when will you get that box ? 17:03 < rxr> also I found what might help booting my old, aging rs6k automatically ... 17:04 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 17:05 < karasz> rxr i do not have a date on it 17:06 < karasz> i have some problems with that customer... 17:06 < karasz> when i will know for sure i will anounce you, rest assured 17:07 < mipe> so another t2-powered box installed here 17:12 < rxr> mipe: ,-) 17:13 < mipe> i thought i bought 32bit sempron i got the 64bit version of it... 17:13 < rxr> on http://www.heise.de is a the name of a company that has many t2 systems deployed world wide in production use ... 17:13 < rxr> mipe: cool ,-) 17:16 < rxr> so - me trying the latest ppc64 burn ... 17:17 < mipe> silly question: would the be any gain to build -march=athlon64 -m32 desktop... ie. getting sse2 and 3dnowext support? 17:18 < rxr> yay - got it 17:18 < rxr> finally I can sleep again with t2 ppc64 bootable ... 17:19 * rxr turns his eyes and sees the Octane and sparc boxes and knows about the work still to be done 17:24 < CIA-9> rene * r14791 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/ofboot.b: 17:24 < CIA-9> * marked our ppc, open firmware boot script MacRISC4 compatible so 17:24 < CIA-9> recent 64bit macs consider it 17:26 < CIA-9> amery * r14792 /trunk/package/filesystem/mdf2iso/ (. mdf2iso.cache mdf2iso.desc): 17:26 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 17:26 < CIA-9> * added mdf2iso (0.3) - a MDF to ISO converter 17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r14793 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/boot.in: 17:28 < CIA-9> * replaced the long, underscored HFS volume ID with just T2 and added 17:28 < CIA-9> -no-desktop (from Gentoo catalyst) - might save some bytes - to the 17:28 < CIA-9> powerpc iso options 17:29 < rxr> so, the ppc64 use case now loads yaboot and in theory also the kernel 17:30 < rxr> though on my dual-core 2.6.15 does not come up due to those bits I have in the running kernel are not yet upstream yet ... 17:35 < mnemoc> wait for 2.7 :) 17:35 < rxr> no 16-rc1 17:35 < mnemoc> :) 17:36 < rxr> and/or pull the patches out of powerpc.git ... 17:37 < mnemoc> lars added cogito a few days ago 17:39 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 17:39 < sepp> moin 17:41 < demian> wv sepp 17:41 < demian> umm.. welcome vack ? sorry. 17:41 < sepp> vw ? :) 17:41 < sepp> hi demian 17:44 < mnemoc> demian: _back_ 17:46 < demian> i know.. it was just that 0x62 is too near from 0x73 in my keyboard, my finger pressed the bad key 17:46 < demian> s/73/76 17:47 * demian using querty kb layout 17:47 < sepp> and no chars, only hex values :P ? 17:47 < demian> alternatively zxcvb 17:48 < sepp> i mean printed on the keys ... 17:48 < demian> that would be cool.. but nop. i was just geeking a bit. 17:48 < demian> ;-) 17:49 * demian looking at thinkgeek for a hex labeled kb 17:49 < sepp> hehe :) 17:50 < demian> found nothing. 17:51 < demian> umm. ppl are strange. who havent thought in a hex labeled keyboard? :p 17:51 < mnemoc> do you look at the kb when you type? 17:52 < mnemoc> then, do you care what is draw there? 17:52 < demian> sometimes. not a perfect type writer. 17:53 * demian is a 3-finger type writer 17:53 < mnemoc> i would make the same typos on a labeled or on a blank keyboard :p 17:53 < mnemoc> oh 17:53 < demian> anyways i do write fast.. wanna play typespeed ? 17:54 < demian> :) 17:56 < sepp> rules, someone says a number of hex values and the 1st one who managed to type it is the winner? 17:58 < demian> umm. ok.. gimme a second to open a console next to this one, and do man ascii.. 17:58 < demian> or maybe run `bc` in hex mode. 17:59 < demian> :p 18:05 < karasz> bbl 18:07 * demian is going school 18:07 < demian> bye 18:08 < sepp> cu demian, karasz 18:19 < demian> for file in `grep -v -E "missing|No" cksums | cut -d: -f2 | sed -s "s/^ download/..\/download\/trunk/g"` ; do rm -fv $file ; done 18:19 < demian> finished cleaning. 18:20 < mnemoc> demian: ./scripts/Cleanup -download 18:20 < demian> umm.. what does it does ? 18:20 < mnemoc> remove all files at download/ which are unknown 18:21 < demian> :s thanks.. well, bye 18:23 < demian> what in my case i use alt dit for download content ? 18:24 < mnemoc> you have another download/ and you want to take files from there and not duplicate space (hardlink) 18:24 < mnemoc> i have: 18:25 < mnemoc> t2-$foo/download -> ../t2-download/$foo (symlink) 18:25 < mnemoc> using -alt-dir ../t2-download 18:25 < demian> ok, so wont use alt-dir. 18:25 < demian> bye 18:26 < mnemoc> :) 18:31 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE9B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:33 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BECD0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:45 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:46 < misl> hi folks :) 18:46 < mnemoc> hi misl 19:10 < sepp> hi misl :) 19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14796 /trunk/package/filesystem/b5i2iso/ (. b5i2iso.cache b5i2iso.conf b5i2iso.desc): 19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 19:20 < CIA-9> * added b5i2iso (0.2) - a Blindwrite to ISO converter 19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14795 /trunk/package/filesystem/ccd2iso/ (. ccd2iso.cache ccd2iso.desc configure.patch): 19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 19:20 < CIA-9> * added ccd2iso (0.2) - a CloneCD to ISO converter 19:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14794 /trunk/package/filesystem/nrg2iso/ (. .nrg2iso.desc.swp nrg2iso.cache nrg2iso.conf nrg2iso.desc): 19:20 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 19:20 < CIA-9> * added nrg2iso (0.4) - a NRG to ISO converter 19:20 < mnemoc> shit* 19:20 < mnemoc> err 19:20 < sepp> vim ? 19:20 < mnemoc> sh*t 19:20 < mnemoc> yes 19:21 < Baldzius> anyone using linux26mm ? 19:21 < mnemoc> rene i guess 19:22 < CIA-9> amery * r14797 /trunk/package/filesystem/nrg2iso/.nrg2iso.desc.swp: * removed .swp file from nrgr2iso package, sorry 19:29 < CIA-9> amery * r14798 /trunk/package/filesystem/bin2iso/ (. bin2iso.cache bin2iso.conf bin2iso.desc): 19:29 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel : 19:29 < CIA-9> * added bin2iso (0.2) - a Bin to ISO converter 19:41 < CIA-9> amery * r14799 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/ (8 files): 19:41 < CIA-9> Tobias C. Schmidt : 19:41 < CIA-9> * added vmware (5.5.1-19175) - A virtual x86 PC 19:48 < _Ragnar_> o_o 19:50 < CIA-9> amery * r14800 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/vmware.desc: * changed vmware package to be optional, due to licensing 19:55 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 19:56 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14801 /trunk/package/emulators/vmware/vmware.desc: * change vmware to download locally ... 19:57 < mnemoc> not redistributable source file? 19:57 < jsaw> Not sure 19:57 < mnemoc> :) 19:57 < jsaw> just being cautious 19:57 < jsaw> ... 19:57 < mnemoc> better 20:00 < jsaw> gah 20:00 < jsaw> tar xvf VMware-* | grep EULA 20:01 < karasz> re 20:01 < jsaw> I'm blind, I've seen this 4-letter word... 20:02 < mnemoc> :\ 20:04 < CIA-9> aldas * r14802 /trunk/package/security/freeradius/ (config.in freeradius.conf freeradius.desc): * updated freeradius (1.1.0-pre0 -> 1.1.0) 20:05 < CIA-9> aldas * r14803 /trunk/package/network/openldap/openldap.desc: * updated openldap (2.3.15 -> 2.3.17) 20:07 < Baldzius> jsaw: should i commit gnash? 20:09 < jsaw> yes 20:09 < mnemoc> works? 20:10 < Baldzius> compiles , just .conf is ugly and hardcoded 20:10 < Baldzius> someone has to polish it because i am p* 20:10 < Baldzius> but not woking for me 20:10 < mnemoc> ehm 20:15 < CIA-9> aldas * r14804 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (. gnash.conf gnash.desc): * added gnash (20051226) - Gnash - free flash movie player 20:15 < Baldzius> jsaw: it's yours :) 20:15 < mnemoc> Baldzius: don't use package name on [I] 20:15 < Baldzius> damn how i hate it :) 20:15 < Baldzius> oops 20:19 < LMJ> hellooo 20:19 < Baldzius> hi LMJ 20:19 < mnemoc> hi LMJ 20:19 < LMJ> what's up guys ? 20:20 < mnemoc> LMJ: i was trying to review the packages you mailed, your fm [U] doesn't exist 20:20 < LMJ> what i put ? 20:22 < mnemoc> 1) send plain text .diff attachments per package 20:22 < mnemoc> 2) make patches at ., not package/ 20:23 < mnemoc> no idea what's current home of your fm :) 20:23 < LMJ> wowow slow down 20:25 * mnemoc frozen 20:25 < CIA-9> aldas * r14805 /trunk/package/audio/xmms2/ (xmms2.conf xmms2.desc): * updated xmms2 (0.2DrAlban -> 0.2DrBombay) 20:25 < Baldzius> :) 20:25 < LMJ> maybe should i stop to submit packages ;) 20:26 < mnemoc> LMJ: no, just send them one by one 20:26 < mnemoc> so i can evaluate one by one :) 20:26 < LMJ> i haven't follow any recommendations 20:27 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14806 /trunk/package/multimedia/gnash/ (gnash.conf gnash.desc): 20:27 < CIA-9> * a bit of cleanup (removing hardcoded firefox stuff) 20:27 < CIA-9> untested 20:27 < mnemoc> LMJ: but you will :) 20:28 * LMJ is scared and think mnemoc likes big trunks... 20:29 < mnemoc> uh 20:30 < LMJ> and remenber* 20:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping 20:32 < rxr> re 20:32 < mnemoc> wb rxr 20:32 < Baldzius> hi rxr 20:33 < jsaw> bye bye 20:34 < Baldzius> bye jsaw, i am testing 14806 :) 20:34 < mnemoc> bye jsaw 20:35 < rxr> linux26mm what ? 20:35 < Baldzius> is it stable to use? 20:37 < rxr> depends 20:38 < rxr> works more than less depending on the hw 20:38 < rxr> I would not base a production system onit .. 20:42 < Baldzius> is it normal that $firefox_prefix variable starts without "/" like -> opt/firefox 20:43 < rxr> yes 20:43 < rxr> that is all fine 20:43 < rxr> do you see a problem somewhere ? 20:43 < Baldzius> no, i'll fix it 20:43 < Baldzius> jsaw just missed that in gnash.conf 20:44 < Baldzius> he revised my hardcoded .conf 20:53 -!- acehunky [n=chat_jok@59.184.17.0] has joined #t2 20:54 < acehunky> mnemoc: i am here 20:55 < acehunky> rxr: hi 20:56 < rxr> hi acehunky 20:56 < karasz> hello acehunky 20:56 < acehunky> hello people 20:56 < acehunky> can we have a short conference ? 20:57 < rxr> yeah 20:57 < acehunky> karasz: nice to meet you buddy 20:57 < acehunky> can you create it and invite me there ? 20:57 < karasz> you too acehunky although i do not remember you... (should I?) 20:58 < mnemoc> karasz: i doubt :) 20:58 < acehunky> umm well i was the one who asked question bout loading T2 on Vmware ;) 20:58 < karasz> ok 20:58 < karasz> i didn't lost my memories at least it seems so 20:58 < karasz> another nick i guess 20:58 < acehunky> yeah chat_jokey 20:58 < karasz> ohum 20:59 < acehunky> IRC ate up my one nic .. 20:59 < acehunky> after time out ..and wasnt releasing so creatd another one 21:03 < morfoh> re 21:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: pong :) 21:04 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 21:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: we should rather use sth. like a 3 way handshake :p 21:04 < mnemoc> o.o 21:04 < morfoh> ^_^ 21:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: companero ... what's up ? 21:06 < sepp> ?U? 21:06 < morfoh> hans-peter ? 21:06 < morfoh> :p 21:07 < sepp> ;) 21:18 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.101.234] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:20 < karasz> hi morfoh 21:20 < morfoh> hey karasz ... "men of the day" :p 21:21 < karasz> i am only one 21:21 < karasz> and i am not the man of the day 21:21 < karasz> but the story teller man of the day ;) 21:23 < morfoh> :) 21:46 < karasz> finaly 21:47 < karasz> manualy but i can mount my usb pen 21:47 < karasz> but i still miss the automount feature... :( 21:58 < mnemoc> how umount works on 'automounting' philosophy? 21:59 < rxr> umount as soon as unused for some time I guess 21:59 < rxr> but I never used it 21:59 * rxr on udev / hal ... 22:02 * morfoh wishes rxr all the best on udev / hal :) 22:05 < rxr> thanks 22:10 < karasz> hmm... 22:10 < karasz> `3 way handshake` 22:10 * karasz trying to imagine ...oO 22:11 * karasz thinks that can only be that morfoh san imagines that he is an octopus .oOo..... 22:13 -!- karasz is now known as Dorada 22:14 < Dorada> morfoh: san you should watchout .... Dorada may come for you... 22:15 < rxr> ok - n8 all 22:15 < Dorada> gn8 rxr 22:15 -!- Dorada is now known as karasz 22:16 < rxr> have a nice night 22:16 < LMJ> hello 22:16 < karasz> bonsoiree SerWou ;) 22:17 < karasz> whou that is surelyy wrong... 22:17 < LMJ> any idea why php 5.0.5 won't compile on a light webserver t2 2.1 http://pastebin.com/504638 22:17 < LMJ> "bonne soirée" = have a good evening in the next stuff you will do "bonsoir" : good evening ;) 22:18 < karasz> but there is also soiree? 22:18 < karasz> with an accesnt on one e 22:18 < karasz> ? 22:18 < LMJ> "soirée" is the only valid word 22:18 < karasz> meaning some kind of party or some... 22:18 < karasz> ok 22:19 < karasz> i won't argue with a native speacker... 22:19 < karasz> i really hate my french teacher... 22:19 < LMJ> hehe 22:20 < karasz> no, really because of she i didn't learned more french... 22:20 < LMJ> she teach what ? 22:20 < LMJ> sex ? ;) 22:20 < LMJ> french kiss ? 22:20 < karasz> o_O 22:20 < karasz> french teacher as in french language teacher 22:21 < karasz> i was around 15 she was around 45 so no french kissing if you catch my drift 22:21 < LMJ> hehehe 22:21 < LMJ> rotfl 22:21 < LMJ> well, gtg now 22:22 < LMJ> i will see tmorrow for my PHP problem 22:22 < karasz> cu SerWou... 22:22 < mnemoc> LMJ: /usr/src/t2-src/src.php.1137189972.24184.fb40f41e/php-5.0.5/sapi/cli/php: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Permission denied 22:22 < mnemoc> ^--- wth? cross compiling? 22:22 < LMJ> I KNOW 22:22 < LMJ> grsec ! 22:23 < mnemoc> :\ 22:23 < LMJ> what i should unprotect between 22:23 < mnemoc> no idea 22:23 < LMJ> /usr/src/t2-src/src.php.1137189972.24184.fb40f41e/php-5.0.5/sapi/cli/php <--- that thing ? 22:23 < mnemoc> just don't build on production servers 22:23 < morfoh> karasz: regarding the 3 way handshake I was more thinking in communication protocols :p 22:23 < mnemoc> me too 22:24 * karasz hides deeeeeeepp.... 22:28 * karasz carefully peeks out from his hidding place 22:29 < mnemoc> noone needs to hide at #t2 22:29 * morfoh catches karasz on his hair ... hehe.. gor him :) 22:29 < mnemoc> : 22:29 < mnemoc> :p 22:29 < LMJ> good night the channn 22:30 < LMJ> see you tomorrow 22:30 < mnemoc> gn8 LMJ 22:30 < LMJ> thx 22:30 < LMJ> A+ 22:30 < mnemoc> LMJ: i expect your patches for tomorrow 22:30 < morfoh> gn8 LMJ :) 22:30 < LMJ> what an honnor for me 22:30 < LMJ> emelfm2 got an update 1 week ago irrc 22:30 < karasz> outch 22:31 < mnemoc> LMJ: even better 22:31 < karasz> morfoh: please let go of my hair... 22:31 < mnemoc> karasz: everything from you was commited? anything missing? 22:31 < karasz> i like it on my head, not anywhere else... 22:31 < karasz> from what i posted yes 22:31 < mnemoc> karasz: hit him on his fat stomach 22:31 < morfoh> karasz: I've done so 2 minutes ago :p 22:32 < morfoh> so this is sth. like "phantom pain" 22:32 < karasz> so you already let my hair go? 22:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: if you didn't say so, you didn't do it 22:32 < karasz> damn i should go easier with those pills... 22:33 * mnemoc remember 'mud' 22:34 < karasz> mnemoc: what the heck are you doing in the mud? 22:34 * morfoh is kicking mnemoc's ass 22:34 < karasz> get out of there 22:34 < mnemoc> hey! 22:34 < mnemoc> stop it 22:34 * morfoh is kicking mnemoc's ass again 22:34 * mnemoc kicks back 22:34 < karasz> guys 22:34 < karasz> take it easy 22:34 < karasz> no more kicks please 22:34 * mnemoc pulls karasz 22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: hehe ... you missed me ... 22:35 < karasz> or i'll move to thaland and become a muaythay fighter 22:35 < mnemoc> morfoh: i haven't stoped trowing kicks 22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: then you're kicking some other poor guy around here :p 22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: or the beer makes me a bit harder :) 22:36 * morfoh is opening another bootle 22:36 < mnemoc> morfoh: you haven't noticed you are bleeding 22:36 < mnemoc> and on your knees 22:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: i doesn't matter 22:37 < rxr> rxr: test 22:37 < morfoh> one two one two 22:37 < rxr> can someone post a something to me 22:37 < morfoh> rxr: test one two 22:37 < rxr> hm 22:37 < rxr> aynthing to do for awaylog ? 22:37 < mnemoc> rxr: test test test 22:37 < rxr> /away not enough ? 22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] [log] 22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_colors = ON 22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_level = MSGS HILIGHT 22:38 < mnemoc> [19:39:30] awaylog_file = ~/.irssi/away.log 22:38 < rxr> ouhm 22:38 < rxr> ok - not tonigh 22:38 < rxr> cu 22:39 < morfoh> sleep well rxr :) 22:39 < rxr> u2 22:39 < mnemoc> cu rxr 22:39 < karasz> cu rxr 22:45 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFBFBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:46 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFBFBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:54 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@85.206.102.170] has joined #t2 22:54 < karasz> moin Baldzius 22:55 < Baldzius> oops :) 22:55 < Baldzius> hi karasz :) 22:55 < karasz> got you... 22:55 < Baldzius> linux26mm doesn't boot :) 22:55 < karasz> :( 22:55 < Baldzius> heh 22:56 < Baldzius> reiser4 is fast 22:56 < mnemoc> Baldzius: what are you doing on reiser4? 22:57 < Baldzius> now copying files ... 'll try to do reference build on it 23:00 < mnemoc> when reiserfs4 go inside linux mainline? 23:02 < Baldzius> dunno 23:02 < mnemoc> i don't see it's CONFIG on my 2.6.11 kconfig 23:03 < karasz> mnemoc: i gues sit will take some time... 23:04 < karasz> s/ s/s 23:05 < mnemoc> so you patched it? 23:06 < mnemoc> ah, yes.... here it is 23:07 < Baldzius> i reverted to 2.6.14.1 and added patch from namesys 23:08 < Baldzius> i guess they are waiting for 2.6.15.1 to release new patch 23:09 < mnemoc> good i have 2.6.11 at 2.1 ,-) 23:22 < mnemoc> i guess i'll do magic patching from reiser4tools 23:23 * mnemoc moving home 23:23 < Baldzius> jesus christ reiser4 is _super_ fast :) 23:23 < Baldzius> sv up'ed in several seconds 23:23 < Baldzius> svn 23:24 < _Ragnar_> where's the change? 23:24 < Baldzius> in time 23:25 < Baldzius> i have to identical trees , one on ext3 other on reiser4 23:25 < Baldzius> i'd say svn up on reiser4 was 3-5x faster 23:26 < _Ragnar_> oh ok 23:28 < Baldzius> and ... ext3 partition is at the begining and reiser4 partition is at the end of HDD 23:49 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-28-119.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Sat Jan 14 00:00:12 2006