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00:25 < rxr> so the dual-core is loaded with work: load average: 5.45, 5.20, 4.20
00:25 < rxr> and I go sleep
00:25 < rxr> cu
00:40 < YeT2> n8 everybody...
01:17 < mnemoc> rehi
01:23 < _Ragnar_> !> ===[automake_fixup:36 (last $?=0)> cp -fv /export/t2-trunk/build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/usr/share/automake/config.guess ./config.guess
01:23 < _Ragnar_> !> cp: cannot stat `/export/t2-trunk/build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/usr/share/automake/config.guess': No such file or directory
01:24 < _Ragnar_> in 1-mktemp
01:24 < mnemoc> uhm
01:25 < mnemoc> does it exist ?
01:25 < _Ragnar_> obviously not
01:26 < mnemoc> all that hackery needs validation [ ! -f $root/usr/share/automake/config.guess ] || cp -fv $root/usr/share/automake/config.guess ./config.guess
01:28 < mnemoc> package/base/automake/parse-config is not nice
01:33 < _Ragnar_> o_o
01:38 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: if i commit, can you test and see if the files are properly replaced?
01:41 < _Ragnar_> yea
01:42 < CIA-9> amery * r14712 /trunk/package/base/automake/parse-config: * changed automake/parse-config to make automake_fixup safer
01:42 < mnemoc> ^--- not tested
02:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: worked?
02:00 < _Ragnar_> oh O_O
02:00 < mnemoc> :\
02:00 < _Ragnar_> sorry o_o
02:00 < _Ragnar_> my mind is fragmented
02:00 < mnemoc> :)
02:01 < mnemoc> i'll take another thread from you, how is axion.yi.org mirror performance to you?
02:04 < _Ragnar_> gimme a file url to test
02:05 < mnemoc> http://axion.yi.org/t2/2.1-stable/m/mozilla-1.7.12-source.tar.bz2
02:06 < _Ragnar_> maxes out my line
02:06 < mnemoc> maxes out?
02:06 < _Ragnar_> yea
02:06 < _Ragnar_> around 180k/s
02:06 < mnemoc> what does it mean?
02:07 < mnemoc> nice
02:07 < mnemoc> so it's good
02:07 < mnemoc> Download -mirror auto ?
02:08 < _Ragnar_> fix works
02:09 < mnemoc> can you see next packages (after automake get built) if the replacements are done?
02:09 < _Ragnar_> ?
02:10 < _Ragnar_> yea 1-mktemp works now
02:11 < mnemoc> i mean when automake files exist :)
02:11 < mnemoc> does the quirk works when it should work?
02:11 < _Ragnar_> yea seems so
02:12 < _Ragnar_> thx :)
02:14 < mnemoc> :)
02:14 < mnemoc> thanks you for testing :p
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02:18 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: why your build didn't make 0-automake?
02:18 < mnemoc> Author: rene
02:18 < mnemoc> Date: 2006-01-11 00:24:12 +0100 (Wed, 11 Jan 2006)
02:18 < mnemoc> New Revision: 14710
02:18 < mnemoc> Log:
02:18 < mnemoc> * build automake in stage 0, files needed for stage 1 AUTOMAKE-QUIRK
02:19 < mnemoc> packages, such as mktemp
02:19 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14713 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/sysfiles.conf: * fix typo copying version.txt from target dir
02:19 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: huh? it did
02:19 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: wrong $toolsdir ?
02:20 < _Ragnar_> ???
02:20 < mnemoc> find build/crap-*/TOOLSDIR -name config.sub
02:21 < mnemoc> find build/crap-*/TOOLSCHAIN -name config.sub
02:21 < mnemoc> err
02:21 < mnemoc> find build/crap-*/TOOLCHAIN -name config.sub
02:23 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14714 /trunk/package/develop/docpp/docpp.desc: * ignore locale.alias
02:23 < _Ragnar_> build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/share/libtool/libltdl/config.sub
02:23 < _Ragnar_> build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/share/libtool/config.sub
02:23 < _Ragnar_> build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/share/automake-1.9/config.sub
02:24 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14715 /trunk/package/e17/etk/etk.desc: * LIBTOOL-QUIRK #??
02:24 < mnemoc> local pref=$root
02:24 < mnemoc> [ $stagelevel -le 1 ] &&
02:24 < mnemoc> pref=$base/build/$SDECFG_ID/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross
02:24 < mnemoc> cp -fv $pref/usr/share/automake/${file/*\/} $file
02:25 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14716 /trunk/package/gnome14/gtk+extra10/gtk+extra10.desc: * guess what: LIBTOOL-QUIRK
02:26 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14717 /trunk/package/base/vlock/vlock.conf: * do not test for /lib/libpam.so but use pkginstalled
02:30 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: ls -alF build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/usr/share/
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02:31 < _Ragnar_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 104 2006-01-10 13:11 aclocal/
02:31 < _Ragnar_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 992 2006-01-10 17:49 aclocal-1.9/
02:31 < _Ragnar_> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 224 2006-01-10 13:07 autoconf/
02:31 < _Ragnar_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2006-01-10 17:49 automake -> automake-1.9/
02:31 < _Ragnar_> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 648 2006-01-10 17:49 automake-1.9/
02:32 < _Ragnar_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 168 2006-01-10 13:06 file/
02:32 < _Ragnar_> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 200 2006-01-10 13:11 libtool/
02:33 < mnemoc> [ -d build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/share/automake/ ]; echo $?
02:34 < _Ragnar_> 0
02:34 < mnemoc> thanks
02:35 < CIA-9> amery * r14718 /trunk/package/base/automake/parse-config: * improved AUTOMAKE-QUIRK to support /usr/share/automake as a symlink
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03:33 < jsaw> YEAH YEAH YEAH
03:33 < jsaw> my kernel hack works. Now I have a working ACPI
03:34 < jsaw> usual kernel output:
03:34 < jsaw> ACPI-0311: *** Error: ns_search_and_enter: Bad character in ACPI Name: 43005350
03:34 < jsaw> ACPI-0292: *** Error: Looking up [0x43005350] (NON-ASCII)
03:34 < jsaw> ...
03:34 < jsaw> ACPI: Unable to load the System Description Tables
03:34 < jsaw> and now:
03:34 < jsaw> ACPI-0311: *** Error: ns_search_and_enter: Bad character in ACPI Name: 43005350
03:34 < jsaw> ACPI-0335: *** Error: ns_search_and_enter: Auto corrected ACPI Name: 43305350
03:34 < jsaw> haha
03:41 < _Ragnar_> re
03:42 < jsaw> hi _Ragnar_
03:45 < mnemoc> o_O
03:46 < jsaw> mnemoc: ?
03:47 < mnemoc> what are you hacking on acpi?
03:47 < jsaw> oh, my BIOS is buggy
03:47 < jsaw> so hacked a workaround into the kernel
03:47 < mnemoc> :)
03:48 < jsaw> the namespace path (4 characters) may only contain [_A-Z0-9]
03:48 < jsaw> and my board has a NUL in between
03:48 < mnemoc> ehm
03:49 < jsaw> yep... they used some buggy ACPI compilers, that did not check correctly...
03:49 < jsaw> and BIOS update is not yet available, so...
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03:54 < mnemoc> what board is that?
03:54 < jsaw> ECS 760GX-M2
03:56 < mnemoc> "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP" <--- the NUL wasn't a bug :)
03:56 < jsaw> ...
03:57 < mnemoc> it's a feature only supported by winxp
03:58 < jsaw> who knows...
03:59 < jsaw> :
03:59 < jsaw> :|
03:59 < mnemoc> "broken by design"
03:59 < mnemoc> *yawn*
04:00 * jsaw *yawn*'s too
04:00 < mnemoc> i have to take a bus in 4h.... i'll go to sleep a bit
04:00 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow jsaw
04:00 < jsaw> cu mnemoc
04:01 < mnemoc> *yawn* night
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08:10 < rxr> 3~re
09:19 < CIA-9> rene * r14719 /trunk/package/security/gnupg/gnupg.conf:
09:19 < CIA-9> * disabled asm in gnupg on powerpc64, it inf. loops even on the
09:19 < CIA-9> in-package test run and stalls the build
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09:41 < misl> hi folks
10:01 < rxr> hi misl
10:04 < rxr> !> usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libgij.la usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libstdc++.la usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libsupc++.la contains build system paths!
10:04 < rxr> !> The package should possibly flagged with "LIBTOOL-QUIRK"
10:04 < rxr> == 01/11/06 11:00:26 =[2]=> Finished building package gcc.
10:04 < sepp> moin
10:06 < sepp> 5-glibc-20051128/objdir/config.h:
10:06 < sepp> #if !defined __ASSEMBLER__ && !defined _ISOMAC && !defined __OPTIMIZE__
10:06 < sepp> # error "glibc cannot be compiled without optimization"
10:06 < sepp> #endif
10:06 < sepp> :/
10:06 < rxr> was it you having problems with that last night ?
10:07 < sepp> with optimization: athlon-xp speed
10:07 < sepp> no
10:07 < rxr> someone else then last night had the same
10:07 < sepp> oops
10:07 < rxr> try executing gcc manually as in the configure and use -E -dM (IIRC) to dump the defines
10:08 < rxr> and review why __OPTIMIZE__ is not set ...
10:08 < sepp> :)
11:09 < LMJ> goooood morning
11:09 < misl> hi LMJ
11:09 < LMJ> hello misl
11:21 < CIA-9> aldas * r14720 /trunk/package/graphic/xsane/xsane.desc: * updated xsane (0.98b -> 0.99)
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13:01 < CIA-9> rene * r14721 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.0.7 -> 1.1.0)
13:07 < jsaw> hmm, have to run home, wife's sick, bbl
13:07 < rxr_> ouhm
13:07 < rxr_> cu and gute besserung
13:07 < LMJ> bbl jsaw
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13:14 < CIA-9> aldas * r14722 /trunk/package/textproc/kile/ (kile.conf kile.desc): * updated kile (1.6.2 -> 1.8.1)
13:25 < CIA-9> rene * r14723 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/db-slave.sh:
13:25 < CIA-9> * improved archivista db replication initial rsync to remove the
13:25 < CIA-9> known_hosts first (ip most likely got toggled) and use a 10MB block
13:25 < CIA-9> size due current rsync scalability issue, sync inplace and show the
13:25 < CIA-9> progress and keep partial transfers
13:34 < rxr_> load average: 6.97, 6.53, 6.09 <- and still usable ...
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13:37 < rxr> fg
13:50 < CIA-9> rene * r14724 /trunk/package/printing/magicolor2430DL/ (magicolor2430DL.desc trivialities.patch x-no-usr-local.patch): * updated magicolor2430DL (1.1.0 -> 1.5.0)
14:00 < rxr> load average: 10.99, 10.41, 9.09
14:02 < CIA-9> rene * r14725 /trunk/package/printing/foo2zjs/foo2zjs.desc: * updated foo2zjs (2005-03-19 -> 2006-01-10)
14:02 < CIA-9> aldas * r14726 /trunk/package/develop/docutils/docutils.desc: * updated docutils (0.3.9 -> 0.4)
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14:10 < karasz> moin all
14:10 < rxr> moin karasz
14:10 < karasz> yuhuu
14:10 < karasz> today i was very productive
14:10 < Baldzius> moin rxr, karasz
14:11 < Baldzius> rxr: what about adding trunk's package list to distrowatch/t2 ?
14:11 < karasz> i f*d up my KDE
14:11 < karasz> moin Baldzius
14:11 < Baldzius> karasz: how? :)
14:11 < karasz> trying to figure out some menu related issue
14:11 < karasz> now i have no menus at all
14:12 < Baldzius> not a big problem :)
14:12 < karasz> no apps are added to the menu at all despite of 54 apps found by kappfinder
14:12 < Baldzius> once i f*d up my t2 removing coreutils :)
14:12 < karasz> now i feel better
14:13 < LMJ> hello Baldzius and karasz
14:13 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
14:13 < karasz> i hope that forcing kdebase will remake my menus
14:13 < karasz> bonjour SerWou
14:13 < LMJ> bon dia
14:21 < karasz> i am trying to force kdebase
14:24 < karasz> but sun jdk allway gets in the way
14:24 < karasz> how can i tell configure to drop sun's jdk?
14:25 < rxr> karasz: on Emerge?
14:25 < karasz> yes
14:25 < rxr> just use -deps=none to just rebuild kdebase ...
14:25 < karasz> kdebase depends on sunjdk?
14:25 < rxr> optionally
14:25 < rxr> Committed revision 14725.
14:25 < rxr> r15k this week ?
14:29 < karasz> bbl
14:43 < Baldzius> rxr: what about my question?
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14:55 < CIA-9> aldas * r14727 /trunk/package/kde/smb4k/smb4k.desc: * updated smb4k (0.6.4 -> 0.6.5)
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15:08 < CIA-9> aldas * r14728 /trunk/package/x11/rox-filer/ (install.patch rox-filer.conf rox-filer.desc): * updated rox-filer (2.4 -> 2.4.1)
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15:26 < CIA-9> aldas * r14729 /trunk/package/network/smbldap-tools/ (fix_makefile.patch smbldap-tools.conf smbldap-tools.desc): * updated smbldap-tools (0.8.8 -> 0.9.1)
15:30 < misl> karasz: kdebase.cache only has dependancy on blackdown-jdk
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15:32 < valentin2> test
15:33 < valentin2> kopete is the most unintuitive chat tool i've ever seen ....
15:34 < valentin2> someone here atm ?
15:35 < LMJ> yep
15:35 * LMJ is here
15:35 < misl> hi valentin2 :)
15:36 < misl> help valentin seems to be cloned O_o now we have 2 of them
15:36 < valentin2> hm, this kopete chat window less information density like a book for legasthenic ppl
15:36 < valentin2> however, can anyone tell me the current ip of exactcode.de ?
15:37 < valentin2> don't try to use the dns record, it is broken
15:38 < valentin2> you could do a whois valentin
15:38 < valentin2> for example
15:38 < valentin2> i don't know how to execute irc commands in this f**** kopete
15:40 < misl> PING exactcode.de (212.202.42.30): 56 octets data
15:40 < valentin2> misl: this is not the real ip
15:40 < misl> :(
15:40 < valentin2> what does a whois valentin say in irc ?
15:41 < valentin2> sorry, i cannot do myself
15:41 < misl> “Valentin”
15:41 < valentin2> ouhm ...
15:41 < misl> same IP
15:41 < valentin2> this sucks...
15:42 < mnemoc> rehi
15:42 < valentin2> kerstin tells me the internet is still working at home, so the server MUST be online
15:42 < misl> wb mnemoc
15:42 < valentin2> but why can't i connect to it on any port ?
15:42 < valentin2> hyi mnemoc
15:42 < mnemoc> hi valentin2, misl
15:44 < valentin2> is anyone of you able to connect to {www,svn,ssh,ping}@exactcode.de ?
15:44 < misl> valentin2: is ping exactcode.de blocked? I get no reply, except for that line I posted before.
15:44 < valentin2> misl: it isn't just ping ....
15:44 < valentin2> the server is not responding at all - or is any of you successfull in doing sth there ?
15:45 < valentin2> hm - now i can ssh
15:45 < misl> http://www.exactcode.de/ is online
15:45 < mnemoc> ack
15:45 < valentin> test
15:45 < valentin> wow
15:46 < valentin> hm, so why couln't i log into this box for so long ?
15:46 < valentin2> now i can close this fucking kopete
15:46 < valentin2> sry.
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15:47 < mnemoc> don't trust chilean software :)
15:48 < rxr_> moin mnemoc
15:49 < mnemoc> moin rxr_
15:49 < rxr_> valentin: I used exactcode the whole day just fine
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15:58 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ]
15:58 [ axion ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_ ] [ sepp_ ] [ _Ragnar_]
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16:00 < rxr> re
16:00 < valentin> rxr_: suddenly my ssh connection was frozen. maybe there was sth with the uni network and later i was confused
16:01 < rxr> most probably uni ...
16:15 < CIA-9> amery * r14730 /tags/2.1.1.1/: * tagged 2.1.1.1 to apply small hotfixing to 2.1.1/samba
16:18 < CIA-9> amery * r14731 /tags/2.1.1.1/scripts/parse-config: * updated sdever to 2.1.1.1
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16:38 < karasz> re
16:38 < karasz> Baldzius,
16:39 < Baldzius> a?
16:39 < karasz> you are from Lituania?
16:39 < Baldzius> absolutly :)
16:39 < karasz> know a singer named Arina?
16:39 < Baldzius> jazz singer?
16:40 < karasz> sings sometimes with Veto Bank
16:40 < karasz> more like rock i guess...
16:40 < Baldzius> hm maybe, yes i know her but i am not a fan of this type of music
16:40 < Baldzius> why u ask? :)
16:41 < karasz> jazzer you are?
16:41 * karasz damn i start to sound like Yoda...
16:41 < Baldzius> no i like techno
16:41 < karasz> ohum
16:41 < mnemoc> techno, yuck
16:42 < karasz> i asked because i looked for her a lot and i didn't find her music anywhere
16:42 < Baldzius> hardcore yuck :)
16:42 < karasz> hello mnemoc
16:42 < karasz> mnemoc, today i failed my class :(
16:42 < Baldzius> hm karasz i can look for her tracks
16:42 < mnemoc> karasz :(
16:43 < karasz> Baldzius, if you are thinking about an animal with long ears forget it
16:43 < karasz> mnemoc, i managed to mess up my kde
16:43 < Baldzius> excuse me? :)
16:43 < karasz> trying to find out the issue with the menu editor
16:43 < Baldzius> what animal? :)
16:44 < Baldzius> it's not hard to me
16:44 < karasz> you will not find her using some long eared animal
16:44 < mnemoc> kde is an ugly animal to forget
16:44 < Baldzius> oh that animal :)
16:44 < Baldzius> hehehe
16:44 < karasz> if you have other means please do soo and i will be in dept.. :)
16:45 < karasz> so mnemoc volens nolens i will start to use gnome till i emerge xfce
16:45 < karasz> escise me for 2 mins
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16:48 * mnemoc wonder why a chilean passport at .de cost half of what it cost at .cl
16:50 < CIA-9> amery * r14732 /tags/2.1.1.1/package/network/samba/samba.init: * merged 14706 from 2.1 branch: fixed samba.init's smb.conf detection
16:51 < sepp_> its bureaucracy - so its intended so make 0 sense :)
16:51 < mnemoc> :)
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16:52 < mnemoc> here i have to pay 77 dollars for a chilean passport, but if i go to chilean consulate at .de just 30
16:53 < valentin> mnemoc: i guess i can't buy one for ya ?
16:53 < sepp> wow - is there also a little computer in the passport?
16:55 < mnemoc> :)
16:55 < mnemoc> valentin: i doubt :)
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17:04 < madtux> hi.
17:05 < mnemoc> hi madtux
17:05 < madtux> hola mnemoc.
17:05 < mnemoc> hola
17:34 < valentin> cu later
17:34 < CIA-9> aldas * r14733 /trunk/package/network/net-snmp/ (net-snmp.conf net-snmp.desc): * updated net-snmp (5.2.2 -> 5.3)
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17:39 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 7 23:05:57 2006]
17:39 [Users #t2]
17:39 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr_] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_]
17:39 [ axion ] [ demian] [ madtux] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
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18:59 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 7 23:05:57 2006]
18:59 [Users #t2]
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19:03 < rxr> re
19:04 < rxr> sepp: the new .de passports are also $$ ...
19:15 < mnemoc> rehi
19:15 < karasz> re hello mnemoc
19:18 < mnemoc> :) hi karasz
19:32 < karasz> :`(
19:33 < karasz> trying to add volume applet to xfce4-panel
19:33 < karasz> it crashes
19:35 < mnemoc> uhm?
19:38 < karasz> right click->add new item->Volume Control panel closes
19:38 < karasz> without any error message
19:43 < karasz> i'd like to configure the sound system
19:43 < karasz> but every time i touch anything related caller crashes
19:44 < karasz> how can i tell xfce about the sound system?
19:46 < mnemoc> Mono 1.1.13 has been released
19:47 < mnemoc> if alsa was 'installed' on buildtime, the plugin is built with --enable-alsa
19:48 < karasz> i have alsa installed but it doesn't play nice with my card
19:48 < karasz> i want esd
19:49 < mnemoc> alsaconf ?
19:49 < mnemoc> no idea how to enable esd there
19:50 < karasz> alsaconf configured alsa for my card
19:50 < karasz> and added in modprobe
19:50 < karasz> bbl
20:01 < rxr> karasz: esd is worst crap eer
20:01 < rxr> ever
20:03 < rxr> ouhm
20:03 < rxr> alsaconf - urghs
20:04 < rxr> we need to patch that junk away ...
20:05 < mnemoc> alsaconf works only 'per boot' to me :(
20:05 < mnemoc> (of course doing alsa start/stop)
20:18 < karasz> re
20:18 < karasz> rxr it may be crap but is the only one workin' here (TM)
20:22 < karasz> anyone cares about a coredump of xfce4-panel?
20:22 < mnemoc> me, but i don't know what to do about
20:24 < karasz> :) that makes 2 of us
20:25 < karasz> i will open it with ddd
20:32 < karasz> `#0 0x00002aaab08fa999 in snd_mixer_selem_get_name () from /usr/lib64/libasound.so.2`
20:32 < karasz> o_O
20:37 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14734 /trunk/package/python/python/python.conf:
20:37 < CIA-9> * idotic hardcoded library path "lib" ->
20:37 < CIA-9> sed Setup.dist and create links into lib64
20:37 < CIA-9> for 64bit architectures
20:37 < CIA-9> rene * r14735 /trunk/package/security/openssl/ (9 files):
20:37 < CIA-9> * fixed openssl to install into the correct libdir (e.g. lib64)
20:37 < CIA-9> also fixes at least KDE SSL and thus konqueror https:// support,
20:37 < CIA-9> copyrights along the lines
20:38 < rxr> now - that patch took long to test and test and test ...
20:38 < rxr> but after a week without https:// on both, my subnoteook and the workstation it is worth it ..
20:38 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:39 < rxr> oh - and it took long to actually find out what konquerer missed for https://
20:39 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14736 /trunk/package/e17/evfs/evfs.desc: * enable building of evfs, needed by some other e17 package
20:39 < karasz> guess i will reinstall my T2...
20:41 < karasz> cu guys
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20:43 < YeT2> moin
20:56 < rxr> moin YeT2
21:00 < mnemoc> rxr: something else than samba.init fix you want on 2.1.1.1?
21:03 < YeT2> ok ... the moment of truth has come ...
21:03 < YeT2> my first 'minimal desktop (pentium m)' is going to be toasted :)
21:03 < mnemoc> YeT2: may the force be with you
21:04 < YeT2> gnnn ... (i give a sh.. on only failing ghostscript :-) )
21:05 < mnemoc> arch?
21:05 < YeT2> trunk
21:05 < mnemoc> arch?
21:05 < mnemoc> architecture, processor
21:05 < mnemoc> pentium m
21:05 < YeT2> SDECFG_ARCH='x86'
21:05 < YeT2> export SDECFG_X86_OPT='pentium-m'
21:05 < YeT2> export SDECFG_CROSSBUILD='0'
21:05 < mnemoc> sorry
21:06 < YeT2> do you like some lines from 5-ghostscrpipt.err ?
21:07 < mnemoc> sure
21:07 < YeT2> sec
21:09 < YeT2> uhm ... just searching THE FIRST ERROR :(
21:11 < mnemoc> bash misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh -cfg foo renders some pages on regression/foo you can publish
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21:12 < YeT2> yeah ... i know ... only my own webserver is DOWN
21:12 < YeT2> do you know a service
21:16 < mnemoc> rafb.net :(
21:17 < CIA-9> aldas * r14737 /trunk/package/perl/perl-net-snmp/perl-net-snmp.desc: * updated perl-net-snmp (5.0.1 -> 5.2.0)
21:17 < rxr> n8 all
21:18 < YeT2> n8
21:19 < CIA-9> aldas * r14738 /trunk/package/network/nagios/ (config.hlp config.in nagios.conf nagios.desc postsysfiles.in): * updated nagios (2.0b4 -> 2.0rc2)
21:20 < CIA-9> aldas * r14739 /trunk/package/network/nagios-plugins/ (nagios-plugins.conf nagios-plugins.desc): * updated nagios-plugins (1.4 -> 1.4.2)
21:20 < Baldzius> gn8 rxr
21:20 < CIA-9> amery * r14740 /branches/2.1/package/network/samba/ (samba-3.0.20-hack-heimdal.patch samba.desc): * merged 14085,14309 from trunk: updated samba (3.0.20b -> 3.0.21a)
21:20 < Baldzius> mnemoc: me or you update mono?
21:21 < mnemoc> you :)
21:21 < sepp> Baldzius for sure :D
21:21 < mnemoc> obvious
21:21 < madtux> yeah mono who update?
21:21 < madtux> i mean mnemoc
21:21 < madtux> :)
21:21 < mnemoc> Baldzius!
21:21 < mnemoc> Baldzius!
21:21 < mnemoc> Baldzius!
21:21 < Baldzius> :))
21:22 < sepp> hehe
21:29 < CIA-9> aldas * r14741 /trunk/package/network/lat/ (lat.conf lat.desc): * updated lat (0.8.1 -> 0.8.2)
21:42 < YeT2> ?
21:42 < YeT2> ok .. ignore
21:57 < LMJ> evening
21:59 < mnemoc> wb LMJ
21:59 < LMJ> plop mnemoc
21:59 < LMJ> perfect
21:59 < mnemoc> uhm?
21:59 < mnemoc> uhm^2?
21:59 < LMJ> no matter
21:59 < mnemoc> uhm^3?
22:00 < LMJ> hum^uhm ?
22:00 < LMJ> i would like to ask you about the kernel 2.6.15 patched for devfs
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22:00 < mnemoc> not possible
22:00 < LMJ> ok
22:00 < LMJ> what is your advice for my case ?
22:01 < mnemoc> 2.6.14+ started removing devfs code
22:01 < mnemoc> why do you need 2.6.15?
22:01 < LMJ> maybe should show you my problems
22:01 < mnemoc> uhm
22:01 < mnemoc> i don't want to see your size problem :(
22:01 < LMJ> LMAO
22:01 < LMJ> please, do so
22:01 < LMJ> pleaseeeeeee ;)
22:01 < mnemoc> nah
22:01 < mnemoc> nah!!
22:02 < LMJ> come on
22:02 < LMJ> because we are in public this time ? ;)
22:02 < mnemoc> no no no.... i need to be able to look at you in future without laughing
22:02 < mnemoc> please don't
22:02 < madtux> joy kind of laughting mnemoc ?
22:03 < madtux> mnemoc, are u trying to manipulate LMJ ?
22:03 * madtux hides quickly
22:03 < LMJ> hello madtux
22:03 < mnemoc> madtux: :)
22:03 < madtux> hi LMJ :)
22:03 * LMJ powered by French size power
22:03 < LMJ> can you feel it actually ?
22:03 < mnemoc> madtux can't even see his own thing :p
22:04 < madtux> of course i can't... everytime i look it i feel extremly guilty for those less lucky like yourself.
22:05 < madtux> mnemoc, but god always does things right... for compensation he made you tall.
22:05 < madtux> :)
22:05 < mnemoc> :)
22:05 < mnemoc> LMJ: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html <--- this was great
22:06 * madtux .oO( devuelveme esa! )
22:06 < LMJ> lol mnemoc
22:06 < mnemoc> LMJ: sadly that page got soo many hit than that search doesn't return the same message anymore
22:06 < mnemoc> LMJ: it returns the page :P
22:06 < LMJ> tss tss tss
22:13 < mnemoc> :)
22:13 < LMJ> preparing some work for you
22:13 < mnemoc> .oO
22:14 < LMJ> here a part of my dmesg http://pastebin.com/501576
22:14 < mnemoc> :D
22:14 < mnemoc> eoh
22:14 < mnemoc> woh*
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22:15 < LMJ> after discutions on #linux and rxr, it seems to be a bad driver for my Gigabit D-link network card, with maybe hardware problem like mobo or RAM
22:15 < mnemoc> diff that driver from 2.6.15 to 2.6.11
22:15 < mnemoc> just that driver
22:15 < LMJ> advices who came are 1) try to upgrade the kernel 2) huge memtest 3) try to exchange hardware
22:15 < mnemoc> _3_?
22:16 < LMJ> i mean, put some new hardware
22:16 < LMJ> (what i don't have ;) )
22:16 < LMJ> how diff ?
22:17 < mnemoc> diff old.c new.c
22:17 < LMJ> the used driver is sk98lin
22:17 < mnemoc> diff -u linux-2.6.11.something/blah/blah/blah/sk98lin.c linux-2.6.15.something/blah/blah/blah/sk98lin.c
22:18 < LMJ> it means i have to download them ;)
22:18 < sepp> try 2.6.14 and look if the driver changed for .15
22:18 < CIA-9> amery * r14742 /tags/2.1.1.1/package/network/samba/ (samba-3.0.20-hack-heimdal.patch samba.desc): * merged 14740 from 2.1 branch: updated samba (3.0.20b -> 3.0.21a)
22:18 < mnemoc> he change try 2.6.14 on his devfs-based machine
22:18 < mnemoc> err
22:18 < mnemoc> he can't try 2.6.14 on his devfs-based machine
22:18 * mnemoc slap his fingers
22:18 < sepp> 2.6.14 still has devfs?
22:19 < mnemoc> nope
22:19 < sepp> or not?
22:19 < LMJ> what is the latest kernel with devfs ?
22:19 < mnemoc> 2.6.13+reactivator patch
22:19 < sepp> ohh
22:19 < LMJ> crap
22:19 < LMJ> so i have to compare with 2.6.13 ?
22:19 < mnemoc> you can try
22:20 < LMJ> even if 2.6.15 got a new version, i will be not able to update it
22:22 < mnemoc> you can try patching sk98lin.c to look like the one at 2.6.15
22:22 < LMJ> as i know me, i will destroy everything ;)
22:23 < mnemoc> so what?
22:24 < LMJ> damned
22:25 < LMJ> i use 3 differents t2 on 3 differents PCs with the same NIC and only this one got a trouble, i wonder if the problem is somewhere else :-/
22:26 < mnemoc> so it's hardware
22:27 < LMJ> i'm scared about that
22:28 < sepp> diff -ur linux-2.6.12/drivers/net/sk98lin/ linux-2.6.15/drivers/net/sk98lin/ | wc -l
22:28 < sepp> 656
22:29 < YeT2_> ...hmmm ... regarding devs and udev with kernels post 2.6.13bla :
22:29 < mnemoc> diff -ur linux-2.6.12/drivers/net/sk98lin/ linux-2.6.15/drivers/net/sk98lin/ | grep '^[+-]' | wc -l ?
22:29 < LMJ> you are fast sepp, i've just finished to uncompress them
22:29 < YeT2_> did you ever see an upgraded debian which runs udev and mixed devfs devices?!!
22:29 < mnemoc> or even better
22:30 < LMJ> Debian, what is it ?
22:30 < mnemoc> diff -uwr linux-2.6.12/drivers/net/sk98lin/ linux-2.6.15/drivers/net/sk98lin/ | grep '^[+-]' | wc -l ?
22:30 < sepp> 325
22:30 < mnemoc> interesting think :)
22:30 < mnemoc> thing
22:30 < sepp> mostly == 2 >=
22:31 < sepp> pAC->GIni.GIChipRev == CHIP_REV_YU_LITE_A3
22:31 < sepp> pAC->GIni.GIChipRev >= CHIP_REV_YU_LITE_A3
22:31 < LMJ> diff -uwr /home/serwou/linux-2.6.11.10/drivers/net/sk98lin/ /home/serwou/linux-2.6.15/drivers/net/sk98lin/ | grep '^[+-]' | wc -l
22:31 < LMJ> 333
22:31 < YeT2_> well ... hint : check with ls -l /dev/ethN the major minor numbers and do a manual (persistant) device node !
22:31 < YeT2_> ... and make sure to exclude the rule in udev.rules !
22:31 < mnemoc> persistant /dev stinks
22:31 < LMJ> i'm trying to avoid ping work ;)
22:32 < YeT2_> :) i know ! but it helps if the /sys/ scan for udev does crap !
22:32 < LMJ> so, it's good, no ? there are changes between versions
22:33 < mnemoc> LMJ: cd /home/serwou/; diff -ur linux-2.6.{11.10,15}/drivers/net/sk98lin > t2-tree/package/base/linux26/sk98lin.patch
22:34 < YeT2_> ... just remeber : major and minor numbers might have CHANGED for new kernel udev ... but driver expects still old conventions !
22:34 < LMJ> got that file
22:35 < LMJ> should i recompile 2.6.11.10 ?
22:35 < mnemoc> LMJ: re-emerge the package
22:35 < LMJ> linux26, right ?
22:35 < mnemoc> yes
22:36 < LMJ> there is a file named "sk98lin-export-id-table.patch"
22:37 < LMJ> shoud i take care of it ?
22:37 < YeT2_> bye bye ... going to reboot with my brand new t2 installer CD n8 !!
22:37 < LMJ> bye bye YeT2_
22:38 < mnemoc> LMJ: uhm, remove it
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22:39 < sepp> with 3 equal cards i would swap 2 to see what happens
22:39 < mnemoc> ?
22:39 < LMJ> yep
22:39 < LMJ> could be a good idea
22:40 < sepp> 23:25 < LMJ> i use 3 differents t2 on 3 differents PCs with the same NIC and only this one got a trouble, i wonder if the problem is somewhere else :-/
22:40 < mnemoc> :)
22:41 < LMJ> all 2 are 2.1 stables on 2.6.11.10
22:41 < LMJ> all 3*
22:42 < LMJ> should i do "mine -rf linux26" before ? :-D
22:42 < LMJ> ok, launched
22:42 < mnemoc> outch
22:42 < mnemoc> i wouldn't do that
22:42 < sepp> bye bye working kernel :)
22:43 < mnemoc> :)
22:44 < LMJ> ok, compilation started
22:44 * LMJ is praying
22:45 < mnemoc> good idea
22:45 < LMJ> is there a Linux Praying howto somewhere ?
22:45 < sepp> if it dies in the next h there is no kernel to boot
22:45 < LMJ> ho no
22:45 < LMJ> nononoon
22:45 < LMJ> suicide mode ?
22:45 < mnemoc> not yet
22:47 < sepp> wait for power outage :D
22:47 < mnemoc> :D
22:48 < LMJ> everything is under UPS here ;)
22:48 < LMJ> even the external modem
22:48 < sepp> lst time i had a power outage i had to use my notebook light to find the fuse because the pocket was not charged
22:48 < LMJ> lol
22:48 < sepp> pocket light*
22:48 < LMJ> or the cell phone
22:49 < mnemoc> :)
22:49 < mnemoc> i use cell phone light everyday to get into bed :p
22:49 < LMJ> hehehe
22:50 < LMJ> one time i saw a condom with a light at the top
22:50 < LMJ> very funny
22:50 < mnemoc> :)
22:51 < mnemoc> i didn't expected to know you use your cell phone to fill the condoms
22:52 < LMJ> got solar pocket light too around
22:52 < mnemoc> :)
22:55 * mnemoc curious about "condom with light" power source
22:55 < LMJ> me too
22:55 < LMJ> since it's just a blub light
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22:58 < YeT2> buhhhuuuhhhaaaa
22:58 < YeT2> 8((
22:59 < LMJ> what's up YeT2 ?
22:59 < YeT2> boot from CD ... fine ... BUT NO DEVICES FOUND to continue loading next stage !!
23:00 < YeT2> crappy initrd !!!
23:00 < YeT2> hotplug++ ??
23:01 < YeT2> if i choose shell ... i can not /sbin/hotplug++ although it seems to be there !?
23:02 < sepp> YeT2: smiley looks like http://coloribus.com/admirror/?action=detailedView&item=325&language=en
23:02 < sepp> :D
23:02 < mnemoc> udev ?
23:03 < YeT2> 2.6.15 IS UDEV
23:03 < mnemoc> i mean udev problem?
23:03 < YeT2> NOPE
23:04 < YeT2> fuck ... i mean is THERE and runs
23:05 < YeT2> but still no devices after exiting shell and trying to stage2
23:05 < sepp> did it open a "rescue shell"?
23:05 < YeT2> option 6 ? shell ... thats what i am talking about !
23:06 * mnemoc has never seen a 2.2 booting
23:07 < YeT2> and dev is populated ... but no hd* or sd* as i can remeber
23:07 < YeT2> ???
23:07 < YeT2> NEVER ?
23:08 < mnemoc> never
23:09 < YeT2> yuletide ?
23:09 < mnemoc> that is a 2.2
23:09 < YeT2> epsilon ?
23:10 < mnemoc> i use, test and live exclusivly t2-2.1 based machines
23:11 < YeT2> hmmm ... i did run epsilon from HD quite a while ... only had trouble with some memory issues when trying to build ON THAT
23:11 < YeT2> due to dietlibc stuff i suppose :)
23:12 < mnemoc> i have had enough pain with dietlibc the last 10 days, please don't say that name again
23:13 < YeT2> :) poor mnemoc ... i didnt complain ... just decided to let my epsilon die quietly
23:13 < sepp> dietlibc :)
23:13 < sepp> hehehe
23:13 < mnemoc> :(
23:13 < sepp> sorry
23:14 < YeT2> maybe my only question regarding this nnnnnn was "whats so cool about it " last week ... i got no answer :)
23:15 < YeT2> now i know :)
23:16 < mnemoc> what you know now?
23:17 < YeT2> why i got no comment last week on dietlibc
23:17 < sepp> its displays a lot of "don't use foo" but not what else to use - but i am not sure if that is nice
23:18 < mnemoc> http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/diet.pdf
23:19 < YeT2> though i have to admit ... impressing stage1 in embedded.iso of epsilon ... near to "plug and no need to pray"
23:19 < mnemoc> :)
23:19 < YeT2> thats what you suggested to me and where rxr did an excellent job !
23:20 < mnemoc> i'm fighting to get normal builds (dynamic and not cross-compiled) using dietlibc only
23:23 < YeT2> ok ... great goal ... no mocking anymore ... maybe i should try to fix some things
23:24 < YeT2> ... but not tn8 !
23:24 < YeT2> bye bye ... have to get some sleep
23:25 -!- YeT2 [n=chmo@i538784A4.versanet.de] has quit ["Leaving..."]
23:25 < sepp> i made a little ptrace thingy and with dietlibc its only 3kb compared to 400+kb with glibc :)
23:25 < sepp> at least that is nice
23:25 < mnemoc> yeah
23:26 < mnemoc> maybe you want to code the ptrace based fl_wrapper replacement we need :)
23:26 < _Ragnar_> ptrace? o_o
23:26 < sepp> man ptrace ;)
23:27 < _Ragnar_> duh
23:27 < sepp> btw what is it ?
23:27 < mnemoc> syscall, sorry
23:27 < mnemoc> because fl_wrapper only detects stuff run using dynamic apps
23:28 < mnemoc> because fl_wrapper only detects stuff done by dynamic progs*
23:28 < _Ragnar_> good point
23:29 < mnemoc> and i wouldn't be suffering with dietlibc if fl_wrapper wasn't built against glibc!
23:30 < _Ragnar_> o_o
23:30 < _Ragnar_> you do have the option to uso strace still or?
23:30 < mnemoc> my english sucks
23:30 < _Ragnar_> use
23:30 < mnemoc> yes, but strace bloat doesn't build against dietlibc :)
23:31 < _Ragnar_> and ptrace will?
23:31 < sepp> ptrace()
23:31 < mnemoc> the problem is not the function, is the code on the tool
23:32 < _Ragnar_> yes but you'll have to recode most of strace
23:32 < mnemoc> so a clean, small and portable replacement is needed
23:32 < mnemoc> nah, not most
23:32 < mnemoc> sepp will do it :)
23:32 < _Ragnar_> *lol* good luck :)
23:33 < sepp> .oO
23:33 < _Ragnar_> fix the strace bugs on the way too
23:33 < mnemoc> :)
23:34 < sepp> i said i wrote a litte ptrace app based on ptrace and it was really small with dietlibc
23:34 < sepp> not that i want to fix some evil crap
23:35 < mnemoc> we need an small up that 'just' detect some syscalls and notify (using a fifo node?) the syscall and the arguments to another program
23:35 < mnemoc> s/ up / app /
23:36 * mnemoc moving home
23:36 < mnemoc> back in 1h
23:37 < sepp> cu mnemoc
23:37 < LMJ> moing to bed here
23:37 < LMJ> i will have my 2.6.11.10 surprise tomorrow morning
23:39 < sepp> good night serwou
23:39 < LMJ> good night you too
23:56 < sepp> good night all
23:56 < axion> hi all, just wondering if anyone is using the new US mirror yet
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