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00:00 < nzg> so... next and i hope second last round of testing vmware postlinux stuff
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01:53 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14647 /trunk/package/graphic/libstroke/libstroke.desc: * LIBTOOL-QUIRK candidate #11
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05:24 < rxr> hi
05:26 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.2.0-alpha-powerpc-powerpc-desktop:
05:26 < rxr> [5] base/linux26mm [5] base/linux24
05:26 < rxr> [5] base/pcre
05:26 < rxr> `- ppc32
05:27 < rxr> we have some rather strange new regression that fails powerpc64 1-gcc in a rather strange way ...
05:27 < rxr> no idea how that slippted in ...
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05:49 < CIA-9> rene * r14648 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config: * converted ccache/parse-config to use uname2arch
05:51 < CIA-9> rene * r14649 /trunk/package/base/gcc/powerpc64-nonofp.patch:
05:51 < CIA-9> * removed one forgotten nof from the powerpc64-nonofp patch that
05:51 < CIA-9> irritated me in the log output
05:51 < CIA-9> rene * r14650 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf:
05:51 < CIA-9> * removed now unneeded -llibstdc++ quirk from gcc.conf, now that we
05:51 < CIA-9> patch the included libtool (sigh)
05:51 < rxr> so / breakfast
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08:25 < nzg> moin
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10:44 < rxr_> re
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10:55 < chat_jokey> mnemoc: there ?
10:58 < valentin> moin
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11:47 < rxr> re
11:47 < rxr> moin valentin
11:51 < chat_jokey> moin rxr
11:51 < rxr> moin chat_jokey
11:53 < chat_jokey> alright i had spoken with you earlier yesterday
11:53 < chat_jokey> i am booting T2 Minimal
11:53 < chat_jokey> 2.1
11:53 < chat_jokey> under vmware
11:53 < chat_jokey> lemme see what happens
11:54 < chat_jokey> 1st stage boot system
11:54 < chat_jokey> 0. Load 2nd stage system from local device (i booted using ISO)
11:54 < chat_jokey> thats right option ?
11:54 < chat_jokey> r u there rxr ?
11:56 < chat_jokey> rxr .. when i do dmesg .. i dont see any scsi driver :(
11:56 < chat_jokey> i mean scsi device
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11:56 < rxr> chat_jokey: as we talked yesterday in 2.1 you need to load the scsi driver manually as needed for vmware ...
11:56 < rxr> that is symbios logic something AFAIR
11:57 < rxr> I do not use vmware - thus I have no exact name
11:57 < rxr> or easier switch vmware to emulate IDE instead of SCSI
11:58 < chat_jokey> output of lscpi is
11:59 * rxr quick lunch
11:59 < chat_jokey> 0000:00:10.0 SCSI Storage controller: BusLogic BT-946C (BA80C30) [MultiMaster 10] (rev 10)
11:59 < chat_jokey> and the /lib/modules/2.6.11.12-dist is empty !
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12:00 < chat_jokey> and nothing over here as well /var/rockplug/scsi
12:08 < jsaw> re
12:08 < jsaw> ohoh == 01/09/06 13:05:49 =[1]=> Aborted building package gcc.
12:09 < jsaw> daily libtool bashing:
12:09 < jsaw> DIE LIBTOOL DIE
12:09 < jsaw> /usr/lib64/../lib/libstdc++.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
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12:15 < chat_jokey> anyone here to help me on scsi driver with T2 2.1 minimal for P4
12:15 < rxr> chat_jokey: well - just wait for mnemoc to arrive and comment
12:15 < chat_jokey> :D
12:15 < rxr> I have not used a 2.1 since month and vmware even less so ...
12:16 < rxr> it might be the last 2.1 minimal even has a creation errata and misses the scsi modules - I do not know ..
12:16 < rxr> hi jsaw
12:16 < chat_jokey> mnemoc: gee where r u man
12:16 < jsaw> hi rxr
12:16 < jsaw> chat_jokey: early in the morning over there...
12:19 < chat_jokey> yeah ...
12:25 < rxr> jsaw: for a very strange unknown reason 1-gcc stopped builsing for me on ppc64 ...
12:26 < rxr> some days ago it just built fine
12:26 < CIA-9> aldas * r14651 /trunk/package/gnome2/devhelp/ (devhelp.conf devhelp.desc): * updated devhelp (0.10 -> 0.11)
12:26 < rxr> very strange
12:51 < jsaw> re
12:51 < jsaw> rxr: yep
12:51 < jsaw> now it stops building for me...
12:51 < jsaw> rxr: host system interaction...?
12:52 < jsaw> the lib64 naming convention was a stupid idea
12:52 < rxr> no idea what it made corrupt in 1-gcc ...
12:52 < rxr> some days ago it built ...
12:52 < rxr> jsaw: why was it that stupid ?
12:52 < rxr> it is to mix old /lib binaries for compatibility
12:52 < rxr> e.g. have the 32bit versions in /lib around to run wine and such ...
13:03 * jsaw hates backward compat
13:04 < jsaw> I'd rather have the 32bit libs in /lib32
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13:04 < karasz> moin
13:11 < rxr> i'm the last to run binary only linux apps ...
13:11 < rxr> but at least beeing able to run wine + crap is not too bad ...
13:12 < rxr> btw. with t2 you have the power to build your custom system without multilib support
13:12 < rxr> though I do not test that often, it is mostly just to switch off MULTILIB in the Config ...
13:12 < rxr> moin karasz
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13:13 < misl> hi folks :)
13:14 < rxr> hey misl
13:14 < karasz> hello rxr
13:15 < karasz> minto ;)
13:15 < misl> hi rxr, karasz :)
13:22 < misl> any one a clue why dietlibc does not build when crosbuilding a 2.1 minimal?
13:22 < rxr> misl: hm
13:23 < CIA-9> rene * r14652 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf: * fixed dietlibc -D quoting removed during decustmain()'ization
13:23 < rxr> misl: what is the error ?
13:24 < misl> /mnt/space/t2/2.1/src.dietlibc.min-ia32.20060107.125014.31925.noisy/dietlibc-0.28/bin-i386/start.o(.text+0x12): In function `_start':
13:24 < misl> i386/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start'
13:24 < misl> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
13:25 < rxr> hm
13:25 < rxr> I think we should update dietlibc on 2.1 with all what is in trunk or so ..
13:25 < rxr> 2.1 and trunk differ so much that it is hard to tell what it is missing
13:25 < rxr> most probably long solved in trunk
13:26 < rxr> if I would have more time I could log into nosiy and take a look ...
13:26 < misl> Only 5 out of the 25 crossbuilds succeeded. The rest all failed in dietlibc
13:26 < rxr> 2.1 or trunk checker ?
13:26 < valentin> hi misl
13:26 < misl> rxr: 2.1
13:26 < misl> hi valentin
13:26 < valentin> someone seems to have many isos
13:26 < rxr> hm
13:26 < rxr> valentin: ?
13:27 < valentin> just reading t2 mail ... every day a new iso conversion tool :)
13:28 < rxr> ah
13:28 < misl> I did a minimal crossbuild for ia32, x86-64 with every possible arch optimization. Only the x86-64 ones succeeded.
13:30 < mnemoc> DDrehi
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13:30 < valentin> hi mnemoc
13:30 < misl> hi mnemoc
13:30 < valentin> hi morfoh
13:30 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
13:30 < misl> hi morfoh
13:30 < morfoh> hi valentin
13:30 < morfoh> h misl
13:30 < morfoh> hi
13:30 < mnemoc> s/^DD//
13:30 < mnemoc> hi valentin, misl, morfoh
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13:31 < misl> morfoh, mnemoc: you 2 seems to have perfect timing. Both arriving at the same time :)
13:31 < mnemoc> o.o
13:36 < rxr> mon mnemoc
13:37 < morfoh> moin rxr
13:37 < mnemoc> moin rxr
13:44 < valentin> misl: maybe mnemoc is just a fake by morfoh and both are the same person ? :p
13:45 < misl> ahh, a split personality ;)
13:45 < mnemoc> o.o
13:46 < misl> ^-- one doesn't know about the existence of the other :D
13:46 < jsaw> rxr: gcc.conf: ln -sfv ../$prefix/bin/cpp $root/lib/cpp ? lib64 ?
13:47 < mnemoc> $libdir ?
13:47 < mnemoc> $bindir?
13:47 * mnemoc wonders if he is like the guy from fight club
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13:48 < jsaw> hi mnemoc
13:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: who ?
13:48 < misl> mnemoc: NO, with 87 your to old for it
13:48 < rxr> jsaw: no idea
13:48 < jsaw> ${libdir##*/}/cpp ?
13:49 < rxr> jsaw: I think some stupid configure scripts check for it in /lib/ for whatever reason I'll never grock
13:49 < mnemoc> misl: :)
13:49 < jsaw> rxr: both?
13:49 < rxr> jsaw: I did a hotplug commit
13:49 < rxr> jsaw: yeah both mabye
13:50 < mnemoc> ln -sfv ..${bindir}/cpp $root$libdir
13:50 < rxr> or leave it as it is until we find a reason to change it ?
13:50 < mnemoc> ln -sfv ..${bindir}/cpp $root$libdir/ to be sure
13:50 < rxr> mnemoc: broken confiures want it in /lib/ ...
13:50 < mnemoc> :'(
13:50 < rxr> welll we could rm this check in 999 configures scripts in t2 packages though
13:50 < rxr> jsaw: do you need the input matching for anything?
13:50 < rxr> jsaw: e.g. why did you implement it /
13:50 < rxr> ? even ..
13:51 < jsaw> rxr: joystick
13:51 < jsaw> for example
13:51 < mnemoc> joystick? isn't that included in mainline?
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13:52 < rxr> jsaw: I have fail to see how input works ? when do you get what kind events from the kernele ?
13:52 < karasz> re moin
13:53 < rxr> e.g. I have no idea what to test asside if it inf. loop on startup ...
13:53 < jsaw> rxr: you should get this for all input devices
13:53 < rxr> jsaw: so I have an old stily game port on the soundcard
13:53 < rxr> jsaw: when do I get what kind of event when I plug in the dusty joy stick somewhere in some corner ?
13:53 < jsaw> rxr: usb mainly
13:53 < rxr> ouhm
13:53 < jsaw> rxr: usb keyboard, mouse etc.
13:53 < rxr> no usb joystick around ..
13:54 < rxr> of course you get a usb event for those first
13:54 < rxr> an
13:54 < jsaw> mouse?
13:54 < rxr> d then one for the input device ?
13:54 < jsaw> iirc yes
13:54 < rxr> hm
13:55 < rxr> jsaw: at least it does not inf. loop on startup anymore ...
13:55 < rxr> should I reneable it ?
13:55 < jsaw> These modules talk to the hardware (for example via USB), and provide
13:55 < jsaw> events (keystrokes, mouse movements) to the input module.
13:56 < jsaw> so, everything that generates events
13:58 < jsaw> rxr: btw, I think it could be handy to let Glob parse multiple files:
13:58 < jsaw> + void add(const std::string &pattern) {
13:58 < jsaw> + glob (pattern.c_str(), GLOB_APPEND, NULL, &g);
13:58 < jsaw> + }
13:58 < jsaw> (utility/Glob.h)
13:59 < jsaw> rxr: I think it is save to re-enable, but I can test it first when I'm back home tonight
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14:01 < rxr> i give it one more spin on the laptop in a minute
14:02 < rxr> reenabled it already ...
14:03 * rxr needs coffee
14:03 < rxr> wah!
14:03 < rxr> 15 o'clock already ...
14:03 < rxr> bummer
14:04 < valentin> rxr: did you finish your exercises ?
14:04 * valentin needs tea
14:05 < rxr> sort off
14:06 < rxr> also need to do some other annoying time wasting design thing for tomorrow ...
14:06 < rxr> which I'm motivated for in the zero percent region
14:07 < valentin> i understand..
14:07 < CIA-9> amery * r14653 /trunk/package/develop/clip/clip.desc: * updated clip (1.1.15-1 -> 1.1.15-25)
14:08 < valentin> well, gas-wasser-scheisse is related to pipes, screws and various tools, wich in turn is realated to t2 ... maybe you design a CD for t2 project and hand it out as exercise work ?
14:09 < rxr> instead of this facility management thing I'll rather do the cooperate design stuff thos the bar, ...
14:09 < rxr> just some colorful patterns should do ...
14:13 < rxr> at least this work allows me to boot my shiny new dual core mac into a sophisticate with a 100% innovative GUI environment with thie $$$ Adobe In Design (trial version) where everything just works (tm) and so on ... ;-(
14:13 < misl> I see colorfull pictures too. Schni Schna Schnappi video :D
14:13 < misl> Merlyn wants to see it.
14:15 < rxr> heh
14:15 < CIA-9> rene * r14654 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/flexbackup.conf:
14:15 < CIA-9> * improved archivista flexbackup.conf to not yield warning about
14:15 < CIA-9> incompatible cpio archives created (e.g. with multi GB files to
14:15 < CIA-9> archive) that confuse customers
14:18 < valentin> misl: you have schni schna schnappi in NL, too ?
14:18 < misl> yepp, and a dutch version too
14:18 < misl> But I like the original better :D
14:20 < CIA-9> rene * r14655 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug: * improved archivista target to log the date in the custom hot.log
14:25 < CIA-9> rene * r14656 /trunk/package/base/hdparm/hdparm.desc: * marked hdparm DIETLIBC
14:26 < rxr> GEZ: Für TV-taugliche Mobiltelefone besteht Gebührenpflicht
14:35 < misl> rxr: How about internet TV?
14:35 < rxr> that will count soon as well
14:36 < mnemoc> who has to pay, telephony provider or user?
14:37 < rxr> in germany we have some public tv stuff, and users have to pay
14:37 < rxr> thus you pay some 1xEUR per month to have some public news and whatsoever the like
14:37 < rxr> that is just for some free-to-air programs
14:38 < rxr> to garuantee basic, indeependant broadcast
14:38 < rxr> then there are private stations that finance itself due advertising
14:38 < rxr> and the pay-to-view, encrypted that broadcast latest cinema moves and exlcusive sport events for $$$ ...
14:39 < rxr> however I can not stand this fee for all tv-able devices and thus I have not Tv ...
14:40 < rxr> e.g. those "basic" stations throw $$$ out of the window for sport events and shows with whatever starts
14:40 < rxr> and I do see no reason to finance those fluff ...
14:40 < rxr> if the private stations finance soccer licenses with their advertising that is fine
14:41 < rxr> but with my 16EUR/m for "basic" services whatsover ..., no thanks
14:41 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... 400 million Euro for the license to transmit the "Fussball Bundesliga" is too much
14:41 < rxr> the only downsite is they want to charge for internet tv some soon
14:41 < rxr> that is a bit tricky to get around then with multiple recent boxes around
14:42 < morfoh> rxr: and it would be sth. different if they wouldn't send commercial breaks
14:42 < rxr> also, my argument is, if they encrypt their shit I do not even want to see they could and the keys as the pay-to-view Premiere people do
14:42 < rxr> but just because I have a cell or computer around, ...
14:42 < rxr> I really see no difference at all between those public stations and Premiere
14:43 < rxr> just that they enforce the plublic fee to the people and people can get the premiere and co stuff in addition ...
14:44 < morfoh> I read in an article that the public tv had to pay 300.000 DM for their first Bundesliga license but Beckenbauer's mafia know how to "optimize" their budget ....
14:45 < rxr> every year more ...
14:46 < rxr> and with alll those people trying to get the license for their station they raised the license fees into heaven regions ...
14:46 < karasz> moin mnemoc
14:46 < morfoh> moin karasz
14:47 < karasz> hello morfoh
14:49 < karasz> enlightement is frozen....?
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14:52 < mnemoc> morfoh: karasz
14:52 < karasz> ^^ that was a greeting?
14:53 < mnemoc> err
14:53 < mnemoc> "moin karasz"
14:53 < mnemoc> mo :\
14:53 < karasz> :D
14:53 < karasz> ` T2 - DIE LIBTOOL ETAL DIE` ???
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14:54 < mnemoc> it's our mantra
14:54 < karasz> mnemoc, what does the new topic mean?
14:54 < CIA-9> rene * r14657 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/hdreg_h.patch:
14:54 < CIA-9> * removed unneeded dietlibc/hdreg_h.patch, it is an outdated copy of the linux
14:54 < CIA-9> one and hinders hdparm from building, lingering since r1 and I doubt it has any
14:54 < CIA-9> sense
14:54 < mnemoc> libtool and it's contributors (auto*) must die
14:55 < mnemoc> and we pray for that
14:55 < karasz> btw i did not started xchat until mdf2iso to ML :)
14:55 < rxr> mnemoc: though I doubt all the new-age open source wannabees will ever stop using the crap ...
14:56 < mnemoc> that's why we need to keep our mantra
14:56 < CIA-9> rene * r14658 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * added hdparm to the embedded example config, cross builds just fine
14:57 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/1vBsea56.html <--- wth?
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14:58 < madtux> hello.
14:59 < morfoh> hi miguel
14:59 < rxr> mnemoc: that is fixed in HEAD
14:59 < rxr> mnemoc: it was you removing \ before " of -D's in the dietlibc.conf ... !!!
15:00 < mnemoc> oh
15:00 < mnemoc> oh
15:00 < mnemoc> oh
15:01 < mnemoc> too much time without doing C :(
15:02 < rxr> In der jüngsten Spendenaktion der Wikimedia Foundation kamen insgesamt 350.000 US-Dollar zusammen. Dies ist zwar eine Rekordsumme, eigentlich waren aber 500.000 US-Dollar angestrebt worden. Für das erste Quartal 2006 rechnet die Stiftung nämlich bereits mit über 538.000 US-Dollar an Ausgaben.
15:02 < rxr> ` - my god ...
15:03 < rxr> how can they waste that much money ????????
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15:03 < rxr> that really stinks ...
15:03 < mnemoc> good bandwidth they will buy
15:03 < rxr> like peta bytes ?
15:03 < mnemoc> yeah
15:03 < mnemoc> and cool sun boxes
15:03 < rxr> really sending some pages into the world does only cost some k$$$ or kEUR
15:03 < rxr> but not 500000 $$$ ....
15:04 < rxr> I really wonder what they do from this money ...
15:04 < jsaw> other = strdup(getenv(ENVPREFIX "_WRAPPER_OTHERS"));
15:04 < jsaw> if (other) { ... }
15:04 < CIA-9> pfister * r14659 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/data/archivista/ (apcl.log apcl.perm apcl.perm2 tmp.perm2): Changes for adding new databases with apcl class
15:04 < jsaw> ???
15:04 < jsaw> strdup(NULL) -> sig11
15:04 < rxr> jsaw: go fix it ...
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15:05 < jsaw> rxr: done :)
15:05 < jsaw> I just wanted to express my distaste for a second...
15:06 * rxr is still shocked how much money some projects get and how they waste it ...
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15:09 < karasz> hmmm...
15:09 < karasz> strange stuff is happening...
15:09 < karasz> kicker eats up all my cpu than hangs
15:10 < karasz> sighup +restart solves the problem
15:10 < karasz> also i have dificulties with lm-sensors
15:11 < jsaw> mnemoc: cmd_wrapper.c (but that line is actually not wrong, the rest that follows lead me to that assumption)
15:12 < mnemoc> so strdup(NULL) -> sig11 is correct?
15:12 < jsaw> yep
15:12 < jsaw> but getenv never returns NULL at this point in the file
15:13 < jsaw> but the next if (other) {} is simply pointless
15:13 < jsaw> as is
15:13 < jsaw> if ( (delim=getenv(ENVPREFIX "_WRAPPER_INSERT")) != NULL )
15:13 < jsaw> if ( (delim=getenv(ENVPREFIX "_WRAPPER_APPEND")) != NULL )
15:13 < jsaw> ^-- delim is never NULL ...
15:18 < mnemoc> what returns getenv when something is not on env?
15:20 < mnemoc> == 12:19:20 =[1]=> Building base/binutils [2.15.94.0.2.2 2.1-stable]. <--- yeah! using diet-dyn :p
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15:23 < jsaw> mnemoc: NULL
15:23 < jsaw> but before: cleanenv(ENVPREFIX "_WRAPPER_OTHERS", ':');
15:23 < jsaw> -> setenv(name, "", 0); /* no overwrite - make sure it is defined */
15:24 < mnemoc> :D
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15:24 < mnemoc> isn't that evil?
15:24 < mnemoc> isn't better to avoid malloc?
15:24 < mnemoc> wb misl
15:25 < jsaw> mnemoc: hmm, well...
15:25 < jsaw> mnemoc: of course...
15:25 < jsaw> but I do not want to rewrite...
15:25 < mnemoc> ok :)
15:25 < jsaw> I'm only checking the logic
15:26 < jsaw> and I have found another problematic point...
15:26 < jsaw> if (other)
15:26 < jsaw> newargv[c1++] = other;
15:26 < jsaw> newargv[c1++] = argv[c2++];
15:27 < jsaw> ^-- this prefixes the command with the command wrapper
15:27 < jsaw> then the *_WRAPPER_INSERT is done
15:28 < jsaw> now I wonder what if "/bin/sh", "actual-command" was given to cmd-wrapper... ?
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15:33 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://mnemoc.pastebin.com/497807 <--- 1-gcc
15:33 * jsaw doesn't want to see libtool failing
15:33 < mnemoc> doesn't look like libtool
15:34 < mnemoc> looks like t2 toolchain
15:34 < jsaw> wow, not a libtool issue, *great*
15:34 < rxr_> `__you_tried_to_link_a_dietlibc_object_against_glibc'
15:34 < mnemoc> yep :)
15:34 < mnemoc> the problem i had with fl_wrapper on stage 2
15:35 < mnemoc> now on 1-gcc when using diet-dyn
15:35 < jsaw> mnemoc: can you check if the .o files were correctly created with diet prefix
15:37 < mnemoc> yes, all calls seem to be using -gnudietlibc compilers, which is a wrapper to `diet arch-gnu`
15:37 < jsaw> then I'm puzzled where the GNU libc comes in...
15:38 < mnemoc> 2-fl_wrapper was also compiled using dietlibc, but somehow got linked against glibc
15:38 < mnemoc> inside the f* chroot _without_ a f* glibc!
15:39 < mnemoc> .oO( does gcc contain a escape_chroot exploit? )o
15:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: it just can come from the host
15:45 < mnemoc> i have the 'guess' that the gcc cross-compiler is borked
15:48 < CIA-9> aldas * r14660 /trunk/package/security/botan/ (botan.conf botan.desc): * updated botan (1.4.10 -> 1.4.11)
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15:50 < karasz> re
15:53 < CIA-9> aldas * r14661 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mp3-info/perl-mp3-info.desc: * updated perl-mp3-info (1.13 -> 1.20)
15:54 < morfoh> wb karasz
15:56 < karasz> thank you morfoh :D
15:57 < mnemoc> wb karasz :)
15:57 < karasz> thank you mnemoc :D
15:57 < mnemoc> :)
15:58 < morfoh> :)
15:58 < karasz> any good pdf viewer beside xpdf?
15:58 < demian> acroread.
15:59 < karasz> emergin'
15:59 < CIA-9> aldas * r14662 /trunk/package/audio/imms/imms.desc: * updated imms (3.0.1 -> 3.0.2)
15:59 < mnemoc> evince sucks
15:59 < karasz> :(
15:59 < demian> there is gpdf too.
15:59 < karasz> acroread is adobe pdf reader... :(
16:00 < madtux> what's wrong with xpdf?
16:00 < karasz> it does not like resize
16:01 < madtux> mine does..
16:01 < karasz> if i resize and try to look at the pdf xpdf moves just a portion of it
16:01 < karasz> maybe it is a bug in my version...
16:02 < madtux> what version are u running?
16:03 < karasz> 3.01
16:04 < madtux> i'm running 3.0
16:04 < madtux> i'm running 3.00
16:04 < karasz> 3.01 comes with T2 2.1.1 or 2.1.0
16:04 < karasz> i mean with stable
16:05 < madtux> not sure.. i am not running linux on my workstation.
16:05 < madtux> at least not atm
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16:05 < madtux> but that has nothing to do with that.
16:06 < madtux> i guess u problem is an xplf version related issue
16:06 < karasz> xplf?
16:06 < madtux> xpdf*
16:06 < madtux> :)
16:07 < madtux> u could try gpdf..which is baed on xpdf.
16:07 < madtux> works quite nicely
16:07 < CIA-9> amery * r14663 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf: * cleaned dietlibc/dietlibc_build_nativewrapper for good readability and comparing
16:09 < karasz> gpdf works like a charm
16:09 < demian> karasz: have u tried with other pdf files ?
16:09 < karasz> thanks guys :D
16:09 < karasz> nope
16:09 < karasz> i only have one
16:09 < madtux> karasz, great so problem solved
16:09 < madtux> :)
16:09 < karasz> yup
16:11 < mnemoc> rxr_,jsaw: what do you think about this: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZPtrl222.html ? i need it to build 1-* stuff against diet on native builds, to get the 'cross-diet'
16:17 < CIA-9> lars * r14664 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/ (. cogito.conf cogito.desc): * Added new package cogito.
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16:25 < jsaw> mnemoc: don't know ... :\
16:25 < jsaw> I'll have a closer look later
16:25 < mnemoc> == 13:23:49 =[1]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.28 2.1-stable].
16:25 < mnemoc> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 100.00% cache hits so far.
16:25 < mnemoc> -> Preparing configuration to build this package with dietlibc (dynamically).
16:25 < mnemoc> ^--- new fresh build
16:26 < jsaw> have to go home, cu later
16:26 < mnemoc> cu jsaw
16:28 < karasz> cu jsaw
16:28 < rxr_> firmware loading gets on my nerves
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16:34 < karasz> hmm...
16:37 < rxr_> Error logs from embedded-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-cross-embedded:
16:37 < rxr_> 67 builds total, 67 completed fine, 0 with errors.
16:37 < karasz> [D] tag for sourceforge?
16:37 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg sedu
16:37 < mnemoc> Error logs from sedu-2.1-stable-x86-pentium2-mnemosyne:
16:37 < mnemoc> 115 builds total, 21 completed fine, 0 with errors.
16:37 < mnemoc> yeah!
16:37 < mnemoc> yeah!
16:37 < mnemoc> karasz: direct but removing the mirror in front
16:38 < mnemoc> go diet-dyn go
16:38 < rxr_> so much you are not mr. rebe and do not cause regressions ?
16:39 < karasz> mnemoc, example?
16:40 < mnemoc> rxr_: unquoted -D was a shame :(
16:40 < mnemoc> karasz: grep '^\[D.*sourceforge' package/*/*/*.desc
16:41 < mnemoc> == 01/09/06 13:39:25 =[1]=> Aborted building package coreutils. :(
16:41 < mnemoc> help2man: can't get `--help' info from paste.td/paste o.o
16:42 < mnemoc> .oO( why is it using i686-t2-linux-gnu-gcc ? )o
16:44 < rxr_> ouhm
16:44 < rxr_> now hotplug++ caused a kernel but on firmware_write ....
16:44 < rxr_> damn
16:44 < rxr_> why is this firmware loading such fragile
16:44 * rxr_ gets crisis soon ...
16:45 * mnemoc too
16:49 < karasz> it does not work...
16:49 < karasz> all i get is the html of mirrors...
16:49 < karasz> `http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sylpheed-claws/sylpheed-claws-1.9.100.tar.gz`
16:50 < mnemoc> that's not a download location
16:50 < mnemoc> that's a funky mirror selector
16:50 < karasz> dl.sourceforge.net does not work
16:50 < sepp> [D] 0 sylpheed-claws-1.9.100.tar.gz http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sylpheed-claws/
16:50 < sepp> :)
16:50 < karasz> i get a html which redirects me to prdownload...
16:50 < sepp> moin
16:50 < karasz> moin sepp
16:50 < rxr_> karasz: don't try it manuyally
16:50 < karasz> ok
16:50 < rxr_> karasz: t2 does mirror magic bihind your back ...
16:51 < rxr_> in the past this was not that insane, but sf.net did not care about us and did crazzy changes ...
16:51 < mnemoc> dl.sourceforge.net use to be a load balancer
16:52 < karasz> i must have been blinf
16:52 < karasz> anyway thanks sepp
16:53 < sepp> 697 builds total, 695 completed fine, 2 with errors. :)
16:54 < sepp> btw is there some template to get the important xorg packages?
16:54 < rxr_> not yet
16:54 < rxr_> minimal-xorg enables all of xorg. ..
16:55 < sepp> yes, i mean xcalc and many more are not very "usefull"
16:56 < rxr_> xmh and xedit are my favourites
16:57 < sepp> hehe xlogo is also a killer app
17:04 * mnemoc use xcalc
17:07 * rxr_ manages his mails with xmh ...
17:07 * rxr_ and windows with twm ...
17:07 -!- You're now known as rxr
17:08 * rxr always likes the face when people see the state of the art xdm login screen after k lines of text messages scrolled by on boot ... ,-)
17:08 < sepp> :)
17:08 < rxr> xedit is the best editor! and even LISP integrated ...
17:08 < mnemoc> hehe
17:09 < rxr> just x multi media player missing
17:09 < rxr> wait - hell - there is xmms ,-)
17:09 < valentin> btw: what happened to the X11 config module of stone ?
17:09 < rxr> oehm
17:09 < rxr> nothing ?
17:09 < rxr> valentin: is there something missing ?
17:10 < valentin> well, the build from 2005-12-31 lacks the x11 stone module - that is, i need to configure KDM on startup manually
17:10 < valentin> which is not so complicated however
17:10 < mnemoc> valentin: bug still present?
17:11 < valentin> mnemoc: what do i know - which package does that module belong to ?
17:11 < valentin> so i could try to remerge
17:12 < mnemoc> valentin: stone/parse-config should install $pkg/stone_*.sh on $pkg build
17:13 < rxr> xorg-server
17:17 < karasz> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
17:17 < karasz> libetpan is in T2?
17:18 < sepp> ./misc/archive/Find.sh foo ;)
17:19 < valentin> rxr, thx, package/xorg/xorg-server/stone_mod_xorg.sh exists - but for some reason it has not been copied to /etc/stone.d/
17:19 < valentin> wait - it is
17:19 < valentin> so why does this submenu not show ?
17:20 < karasz> yuck
17:20 < karasz> no libetpan
17:20 < valentin> i know, because it is called stone_mod_ !?
17:20 < valentin> seems like a bug when creating stone package out of sysfiles
17:21 < valentin> root@localhost:/usr/src/t2-trunk# l /etc/stone.d/mod_* | wc -l
17:21 < valentin> 14
17:21 < valentin> root@localhost:/usr/src/t2-trunk# l /etc/stone.d/stone_mod_* | wc -l
17:21 < valentin> 9
17:21 < mnemoc> that bug was fixed iirc
17:21 < valentin> ok :)
17:21 < mnemoc> isntalling as stone_ i mean
17:23 < valentin> for f in stone_* ; do mv $f ${f#stone_} ; done
17:23 < valentin> so - now :)
17:23 < mnemoc> ?
17:24 < valentin> hotfix for my installation
17:24 < mnemoc> uhm
17:24 < mnemoc> mv ?
17:24 < mnemoc> *G*
17:24 < valentin> why not mv ?
17:24 < rxr> mmv
17:24 < mnemoc> ah, inside /etc/stone.d/ ok ok
17:24 < mnemoc> yes, good idea
17:24 < valentin> rxr: i don't trust mmv
17:25 < rxr> huh?
17:25 < rxr> use it all the time
17:25 < rxr> never had any issue with that ...
17:26 < valentin> so what would be the to-pattern syntax here ?
17:26 < valentin> mmv 'stone_*' '#1' ?
17:26 < rxr> ack
17:27 < mnemoc> .oO
17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
17:27 < rxr> mmv rocks
17:27 < mnemoc> i think i wouldn't trust that either
17:27 < valentin> yes, if you know how to do it
17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: it warns if files collide before it does work ..
17:27 < mnemoc> -dry-run -verbose ?
17:28 < rxr> you rather mistype the loop than the mmv syntax
17:28 < valentin> if you don't, use for ... because you can prehearsal your commands by replacing mv with echo
17:28 < mnemoc> valentin: that's eactly why i love for-s
17:28 < rxr> power to the people ...
17:28 < mnemoc> :)
17:29 < valentin> cp ./* /tmp/backup ; mmv x y ; if screwed_up ; then cp /tmp/backup/* . ; .....
17:29 < rxr> hm
17:30 < mnemoc> :)
17:30 < valentin> well, now that i read mmv manpage, i think i'll give it a try next time
17:30 < rxr> valentin: don't you have stuff to do?
17:30 < rxr> you can do in design graphic design ...
17:30 < mnemoc> *G*
17:30 < valentin> me and graphic design? LOL
17:30 < valentin> my gd experience ends in 16 color paitbrush land ...
17:31 < rxr> ouhm
17:31 < rxr> there is no ppc handling in libcompat/syscall.S
17:31 < rxr> dietlibc
17:32 < valentin> rxr: can't you just google for a real bars website and hand away their logo ?
17:32 < rxr> guess I do graphic design now - otherwise I have nothing tomorrow ...
17:32 < rxr> valentin: I have to do no logo but cooperate design ...
17:32 < valentin> ok
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17:33 < valentin> oh, and we have to remember f.s birthday
17:33 < valentin> today
17:34 < mnemoc> fixme:system:SystemParametersInfoW Unimplemented action: 8198 (SPI_GETCARETWIDTH) <--- wine 0.9.5 is not capable of showing my bank's page :(
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17:39 < morfoh> linux26 build on trunk looks "funny"
17:40 < rxr> ?
17:40 < morfoh> lot of failed postlinux modules
17:40 < morfoh> !> Warning: Failed building lirc.
17:40 < morfoh> !> Warning: Failed building rivatv.
17:41 < morfoh> !> Warning: Failed building at76c503a.
17:41 < morfoh> !> Warning: Failed building lazyfs.
17:41 < rxr> know, that is a new feature
17:41 < rxr> see the list
17:41 < rxr> and go fix those postlinux things
17:41 < morfoh> ok ... not a lot, but a few
17:41 < valentin> morfoh: did you build 26 ?
17:41 < morfoh> valentin: yes
17:41 < valentin> i want to fix at76c thing
17:42 < CIA-9> aldas * r14665 /trunk/package/games/wesnoth/ (wesnoth.conf wesnoth.desc): * updated wesnoth (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
17:42 < morfoh> already doing a generic build on trunk
17:42 < CIA-9> rene * r14666 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-fs.conf.m4: * always enable the most oftenly used partition types (PC, MAC, SUN)
17:48 < karasz> liblockfile...
17:48 < karasz> for x86-64 should be marked [F] FPIC-QUIRK
17:49 < karasz> gotogo now
17:49 < karasz> bbl
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17:58 < nzg> mnemoc: vmware works now (at least if i do Emerge-Pkg linux26 vmware and enable vmware beforehand in Config)
17:58 < mnemoc> vmware packaged??
17:58 < nzg> mnemoc: ack
17:59 < nzg> i will test it in target-build tomorrow
17:59 < mnemoc> nzg: :D
17:59 * rxr off into os suX
18:00 < nzg> Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel.
18:00 < nzg> The module up-2.6.15-dist.i686.T2-desktop loads perfectly in the running kernel.
18:00 < nzg> it even uses vmwares infrastructure for precompiled modules
18:01 < nzg> although you cannot select the vmware prefix atm (/usr is default)
18:02 < rxr> hm
18:02 < rxr> .oO
18:02 < rxr> mz indesign evaluation copy expires in 3 dazs ...
18:03 < mnemoc> rxr: spank valentin to not wasted those 3 days
18:03 < nzg> but installing vmware somplace else seemed to introduce alzeimer into its init-script (when i tried about a year ago)
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18:12 < demian> bye
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18:31 < CIA-9> aldas * r14667 /trunk/package/python/silvercity/silvercity.desc: * updated silvercity (0.9.5 -> 0.9.6)
18:38 < jsaw> for f in `gcc --print-search-dirs | grep libraries: | sed 's,.*=,,' | tr : ' '`; do ( echo -n $f " -- "; cd $f && pwd; ) done
18:39 < jsaw> `-- how many wrong paths do you get ?
18:39 * mnemoc doesn't want to know
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18:40 < jsaw> but I ...
18:41 < CIA-9> aldas * r14668 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdesklets/ (gdesklets.conf gdesklets.desc):
18:41 < CIA-9> * updated gdesklets (0.34.3 -> 0.35.2)
18:41 < CIA-9> * updated [U] and [D] tags
18:43 < jsaw> mnemoc: tell me
18:43 < mnemoc> me
18:44 < jsaw> :P
18:44 < jsaw> ate a clown for breakfast?
18:44 < mnemoc> o_O
18:44 < jsaw> :)
18:45 < jsaw> mnemoc: so, what's the output of the script?
18:45 < mnemoc> what script?
18:46 < mnemoc> context please :)
18:46 < jsaw> fro f in `gcc --print-search-dirs ...
18:46 < jsaw> for*
18:46 < mnemoc> on my box? empty
18:46 < jsaw> huh
18:47 < jsaw> and gcc --print-search-dirs
18:47 < jsaw> ?
18:47 < mnemoc> i have 'bibliotecas:' :)
18:47 < mnemoc> LANG=C i guess
18:47 < jsaw> oh
18:47 < jsaw> hehe
18:47 < jsaw> and with LANG=C, how many wrong directories?
18:48 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/RYrH4p16.html
18:48 < jsaw> harr harr
18:49 < mnemoc> ?
18:49 < jsaw> on 64bit it's even worth
18:49 < jsaw> eh worse *
18:49 < jsaw> it misses /lib64
18:50 < mnemoc> :)
18:53 < jsaw> oh my
18:53 < jsaw> bbl
19:06 < rxr> this is so annoying
19:06 < rxr> the osx driver for my laser sucks exactly as it did under linux ..
19:07 < rxr> those doomed commercial crap companies ...
19:07 < rxr> that they evern shipped this broken crap out ...
19:07 < rxr> I guess only tested with the cups test page - barely anzthing else ...
19:11 < CIA-9> amery * r14669 /branches/2.1/package/emulators/wine/ (max-font-size.patch.disabled wine.conf wine.desc): * merged 13563,13849,14227,14627 from trunk: updated wine (0.9.1 -> 0.9.5), and copyright notes updated
19:12 < rxr> Upgrading Printer Driver and Controller Firmware--If you
19:12 < rxr> ach fuck cutn paste ...
19:12 < rxr> well nothing works under osx ...
19:15 < CIA-9> aldas * r14670 /trunk/package/network/vsftpd/ (vsftpd.conf vsftpd.desc): * updated vsftpd (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4)
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19:40 < CIA-9> aldas * r14671 /trunk/package/network/mldonkey/mldonkey.desc: * updated mldonkey (2.7.1 -> 2.7.2)
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19:56 < karasz> re
19:56 < morfoh> wb karasz
19:56 < karasz> damn power outage :(
19:58 < karasz> anyway
19:59 < karasz> anyone tried to package libetpan?
20:01 < karasz> errr...
20:01 < karasz> hello
20:01 < karasz> ^^ tried to complay with topic
20:19 < CIA-9> aldas * r14672 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdvdcss/libdvdcss.desc: * updated libdvdcss (1.2.8 -> 1.2.9)
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20:53 < karasz> wb mnemoc rxr...
20:54 * morfoh wonders if mnemoc was away
20:54 < karasz> mnemoc, today i plunged in sylpheed-claws...
20:54 < karasz> wb morfoh :D
20:54 < karasz> ^^ those are specila wb's...
20:54 < karasz> even special
20:54 < morfoh> karasz: I wasn't away ... but thanks :)
20:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: depends on how you define 'present'
20:54 < karasz> you were away from my view...
20:55 < karasz> anyway
20:55 < karasz> as i told you mnemoc i fiddled a little with claws
20:55 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ...
20:55 < mnemoc> karasz: good
20:55 < karasz> not quite the expected results
20:56 < karasz> or were they expected?
20:56 < karasz> sylpheed-claws requires libetpan
20:56 < karasz> which i cannot seem to be able to package
20:57 < sepp> isnt claws just a patch for sylpheed with some unstable features?
20:57 < karasz> i made a .desc for libetpan
20:57 < karasz> http://karasz.pastebin.ca/36287
20:57 < karasz> sepp they say that it forked and now it is independent
20:58 < karasz> and btw mnemoc i made my homework for today :)
20:58 < karasz> mdf2iso is on the ML from some time...
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21:00 < mnemoc> karasz: congratulations :D
21:00 < karasz> nah
21:00 < karasz> that was easy
21:01 < mnemoc> karasz: what's nexT?
21:01 < karasz> sylpheed-claws on the other hand...
21:01 < karasz> i got some more 2iso's but i really want to make sylpheed-claws
21:02 < karasz> and vlc for my desktop
21:03 < mnemoc> vlc?
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21:04 < morfoh> karasz: but we still got a vlc package
21:04 < rxr> re
21:04 < morfoh> wb rxr
21:04 < mnemoc> wb rxr@amazing_AP
21:04 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
21:04 < karasz> yup vlc on x86-64
21:05 < rxr> but on a good tm OS again
21:05 < karasz> morfoh, vlc is packaged for T2, but i cannot emerge it
21:05 < karasz> ^^ http://karasz.pastebin.ca/36010
21:06 < morfoh> karasz: ah! sorry I forgot the issue with x86_64
21:06 < rxr> karasz: disable mmx support
21:06 < rxr> i can try when I'm at susan
21:07 < rxr> I fixed it for lib64 already, it built on ppc64
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21:10 < rxr_> cu
21:10 < karasz> cu
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21:19 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 7 23:05:57 2006]
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21:20 < sepp> no - normal 32bit x86 mess
21:20 < sepp> :)
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21:32 < karasz> be back in 15 mins
21:51 < karasz> btw rxr there is no "--disable-mmx" for 0.8.2, they added vlc -nommx instead :(
21:52 < sepp> == 01/09/06 22:52:41 =[9]=> Finished building package sylpheed-claws.
21:52 < sepp> :)
21:53 < karasz> good :D
21:53 < karasz> so there is claws in trunk, but not for x86-64
21:54 < sepp> no, just local test
21:54 < sepp> but i dont see a lot difference to normal sylpheed
21:55 < karasz> so you vote against packagin' claws?
21:55 < CIA-9> aldas * r14673 /trunk/package/security/clamav/ (clamav.conf clamav.desc clamd.init postsysfiles.in): * updated clamav (0.87.1 -> 0.88)
21:55 < sepp> no, i just dont see any usefull new features
21:56 < karasz> but why bloat?
21:56 < karasz> if it has no usefull new features?
21:57 < Baldzius> what's the *claws?
21:57 < mnemoc> a MUA
21:57 < Baldzius> sylpheed fork?
21:57 < mnemoc> yes
21:57 < sepp> but look 99% identical, i wonder why they forked
21:58 < Baldzius> :)
21:59 < Baldzius> 2.2 looks nice, fixed some stupid bugs but i'm still not fully satisfied
21:59 < mnemoc> http://claws.sylpheed.org/features.php
21:59 < mnemoc> Baldzius: which stupid bugs?
22:00 < Baldzius> mnemoc: After incomplete POP3 session, duplicate retrieval of messages doesn't happen anymore.
22:01 < sepp> sylpheed has aspell support?
22:01 < sepp> if not thats the new feature
22:01 < sepp> :)
22:02 < Baldzius> can't say, never used aspell
22:03 < mnemoc> we noticed
22:03 < karasz> hmmm
22:03 < karasz> there is an extensive list of claws-only features on their FAQ
22:05 < rxr> re
22:05 < karasz> none of them is groundbreacking but i gues it deserves a shot
22:05 < karasz> wb rxr
22:06 < karasz> one cannot disable mmx on vlc newer than 0.8.2
22:06 < karasz> or even on 0.8.2
22:08 < sepp> at least it does not share files with normal sylpheed :)
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22:17 < sepp> Sylpheed 2.1.7 - spell checking feature was implemented ...
22:55 < CIA-9> aldas * r14674 /trunk/package/python/python/ (5 files): * updated python (2.4.1 -> 2.4.2)
23:00 < mnemoc> brave Baldzius
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23:01 < CIA-9> aldas * r14675 /trunk/package/zope/zope/ (7 files):
23:01 < CIA-9> * updated zope (2.8.4 -> 2.9.0)
23:01 < CIA-9> * added "--force" to confopt to avoid configure failure of
23:01 < CIA-9> "existing directory" on package upgrade
23:01 < CIA-9> * removed configure-python24.patch - obsolete
23:02 < mnemoc> brave Baldzius^3
23:02 * mnemoc moving home
23:02 < Baldzius> why brave? :)
23:03 < Baldzius> you think it will brake smtg?
23:03 < mnemoc> 95%
23:03 < sepp> brave update master :)
23:03 < mnemoc> :)
23:03 < mnemoc> 95% of chances of breaking something, not breaking 95% of t2 :)
23:03 < mnemoc> cu
23:04 < sepp> cu mnemoc
23:04 < Baldzius> i'll ask god to increase yours 95% till 99% :)
23:04 < Baldzius> cu :)
23:04 < CIA-9> aldas * r14676 /trunk/package/zope/zope3/ (zope3.conf zope3.desc): * updated zope3 (3.1.0 -> 3.2.0)
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