--- Log opened Thu Jan 05 00:00:33 2006 00:01 < mnemoc> YeT2: that is a almost-native build dietlibc-based 00:04 < YeT2> mnemoc: what do mean with "almost-native" ? 00:04 < mnemoc> same arch, different libc 00:05 < YeT2> khhh ... as i can see : challenging :) 00:05 < mnemoc> but treated as native, so the build continues until stage 8, not just stage 1 00:05 < mnemoc> nah, just perl stinks 00:06 < mnemoc> to crossbuild perl want to connect via ssh to a machine of the target arch 00:06 < mnemoc> and ofcourse we don't want to do that 00:07 < YeT2> yeahh ... not all people have the possibility to do that :) 00:09 < mnemoc> a quite stupid 'solution' 00:10 < YeT2> mnemoc: whats so cool about building all with dietlibc ... no drawbacks ? 00:11 < jsaw> mnemoc: please test 00:11 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14501 /trunk/misc/tools-source/ (fl_wrapper.c.sh fl_wrapper_execl.c fl_wrapper_test.sh): 00:11 < CIA-1> * replacement for strchrnul for dietlibc 00:11 < CIA-1> * use PATH_MAX for buffers instead of guessed buffer sizes 00:11 < CIA-1> * libgen.h for basename (also dietlibc related) 00:11 < CIA-1> * replace get_current_dir (GNU extension) 00:11 < CIA-1> * fix fl_wrapper_test to run in base directory 00:12 < mnemoc> :) 00:12 < mnemoc> let's test 00:16 < karasz> ldconfig: /usr/lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 is not a symbolic link...??? 00:16 < jsaw> oh oh 00:16 < jsaw> not a big problem though 00:17 < mnemoc> karasz: jsut a warning, ignore it 00:22 < jsaw> mnemoc: ? 00:25 < mnemoc> jsaw: i see the same warnings :p 00:26 < morfoh> .oO( while crawling the fridge I've found the stuff that will make me happy )o 00:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: huh 00:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: really all? 00:26 < mnemoc> yes :p 00:27 < YeT2> ok ... bye bye ... the build does not have to sleep ... but i have :) 00:27 < jsaw> mnemoc: can't be, there's no get_current-whatever anymore in fl_wrapper 00:27 < morfoh> gn8 YeT2 00:27 < jsaw> cu yeti 00:27 < jsaw> eh yetII 00:27 < jsaw> :) 00:28 < YeT2> :)) 00:28 < morfoh> didn't knew that Reinhold Messner i a linux user .... errhmm I mean the yeti :p 00:28 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GPv9dF13.html 00:29 < jsaw> ah, ok, no more implicit decl warnings 00:29 < jsaw> good 00:29 < jsaw> ok. 00:29 < jsaw> now what's about the segfault? 00:30 < YeT2> morpho: *g* at least i don't have a beard ! 00:30 < mnemoc> jsaw: no strace or gdb :( 00:30 < morfoh> YeT2: good :)= 00:30 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:30 -!- YeT2 [n=chmo@i53878831.versanet.de] has quit ["Leaving..."] 00:30 < jsaw> mnemoc: but still happens? 00:31 < mnemoc> yes 00:31 < jsaw> ldd? 00:31 < mnemoc> uhm? ... minute 00:32 < mnemoc> ehm, no ldd on the sanbox 00:32 < jsaw> outside 00:32 < jsaw> ldd build/*/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so 00:33 < mnemoc> # ldd build/sedu-2.1-stable-x86-pentium2-sedu//TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7ff2000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7ede000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000) 00:33 < mnemoc> yuck 00:34 < jsaw> .... 00:34 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/OaiG6v18.html 00:34 < mnemoc> ccache and patch segfault 00:34 < mnemoc> gawk scream about syntax 00:35 < jsaw> these are gnu libc libs, not dietlibc... 00:35 < jsaw> where do these come from? 00:35 < jsaw> I thought you're doing dietlibc only ? 00:35 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qFkNGs84.html 00:36 < mnemoc> # grep glibc config/sedu/packages 00:36 < mnemoc> O 01---5---- 101.600 base glibc 2.3.5 / base/library LIBC 0 00:36 < jsaw> ls build/sedu-2.1-stable-x86-pentium2-sedu/lib 00:36 < jsaw> ? 00:37 < mnemoc> .oO 00:37 < mnemoc> _nothing_ 00:37 < mnemoc> wtf 00:37 < jsaw> o_O 00:37 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 00:38 < karasz> re 00:38 < mnemoc> they are at /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386 ... 00:38 < karasz> i am almost done 00:38 < jsaw> mnemoc: show me 00:38 < karasz> but now i have a problem 00:38 < karasz> i am tryin to start kde 00:38 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4vjPPL91.html <--- this' 00:38 < mnemoc> ? 00:39 < karasz> result" Could not start process Unable to 00:39 < jsaw> ok, you have a problem while linking 00:39 < karasz> create io-slave: 00:39 < karasz> klauncher said : Error loading 'kio-file' 00:39 < jsaw> mnemoc: recheck how fl_wrapper.so is build 00:40 < jsaw> mnemoc: eh, I mean linked 00:40 < mnemoc> Build-Tools 00:40 < mnemoc> set -x ? or more than that? 00:40 < jsaw> hmmm 00:40 < jsaw> maybe set -x is enough 00:40 < jsaw> karasz: no idea, sorry 00:41 < karasz> kde cannot find his binaries.. 00:41 < karasz> it is a .conf issue 00:41 < jsaw> I have to go home, then sleep. Maybe cu later, otherwise tomorrow 00:41 < karasz> somewhere i must put /opt/kde3/bin/ 00:42 < karasz> cu jsaw 00:43 < mnemoc> jsaw: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/EcqRYR31.html 00:44 < mnemoc> ok :( cu tomorrow jsaw 00:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: does udev populate /dev automagically ? 00:45 < mnemoc> morfoh: on initrd afaik 00:48 < karasz> mnemoc, any ideeas? 00:50 < mnemoc> jsaw: this may be more useful http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GGTqmX42.html 00:50 < mnemoc> jsaw: regressions report? 00:51 < mnemoc> err 00:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: not for you 00:51 < mnemoc> karasz: regressions report? 00:51 < karasz> moment 00:51 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:53 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 00:53 < karasz> good 00:53 < karasz> i mean better 00:54 < karasz> mnemoc, i solved the issue 00:54 < karasz> it seems that i had to create a symlink 00:55 < mnemoc> on your dietlibc-env, where libc.so is? 00:55 < karasz> i made a symlink to /opt/kde3/lin64 00:55 < mnemoc> lin64 :) 00:55 < karasz> named lib 00:55 < karasz> lib i meant 00:56 < mnemoc> well... that's not a fix, it's an ugly work around 00:56 < karasz> that is what i could think about 00:57 < mnemoc> why this didn't fail?! 00:57 < mnemoc> 239: if [ ! -f $FLWRAPPER_LIBC ]; then 00:57 < mnemoc> 240: abort 'Unable to detect /lib/libc.* for flwrapper' 00:57 < mnemoc> 241: fi 00:57 < morfoh> so do I understand right ? karasz san is just thinking on ugly things ? ;) 00:57 < mnemoc> like morfoh 00:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... like me. You know, I just think about you ... the whole day :p 00:59 < mnemoc> o.o 00:59 < morfoh> -.- 00:59 < mnemoc> what romantic statement o_O 00:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: you know how I am honey :) 00:59 < mnemoc> sweet morfoh 01:00 < mnemoc> karasz: see, morfoh-chan fit perfectly 01:00 < morfoh> what ? 01:00 < mnemoc> the japanese sufix 01:00 < karasz> mnemoc, i will not comment on that 01:01 < mnemoc> fits perfect on your personality 01:01 < karasz> o.o 01:01 < karasz> but guys 01:01 < karasz> c'mon 01:01 < karasz> i am home now 01:01 < karasz> i desrve a champaigne ;) 01:01 < morfoh> karasz: and what has change till you're at home ? 01:01 < karasz> the long lost son i finaly home ;) 01:02 < mnemoc> :) 01:02 < karasz> morfoh, i didn't understood that 01:02 < morfoh> karasz: you have to get you champaign for yourself ... there is no word for waitress in japanese :p 01:02 < mnemoc> geisha 01:02 < mnemoc> :) 01:03 < karasz> nope 01:03 < mnemoc> multi-service 01:03 < karasz> ueitresa 01:03 < karasz> look it up mnemoc :D 01:03 < mnemoc> hehe 01:03 < morfoh> karasz: I just modprobe random-crap-in-brain,ko 01:03 < karasz> hmm... 01:04 < karasz> so if anybody didn't got it in the first round 01:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: "multi-service" <-- nice explanation 01:04 < karasz> .oO(morfoh)Oo. 01:04 < morfoh> what ? 01:04 < karasz> now i am officialy on T2 01:04 < mnemoc> ueitresa == waitress + female suffix 01:04 < morfoh> karasz san ... hei ! 01:04 < mnemoc> karasz: ? 01:04 < karasz> it took me 6 month 01:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: he moved into his new T2 home :) 01:05 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.223] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:05 < mnemoc> what? 01:05 < karasz> build is finalized and installed 01:05 < mnemoc> :) 01:05 < mnemoc> and running? 01:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: it was a long journey 01:05 < mnemoc> 2.1 or trunk? 01:05 < karasz> yup 01:05 < karasz> 2.1 01:05 < mnemoc> :) 01:05 < karasz> i am on xchat from my shiny new T2 01:05 < morfoh> god bless the stable tree maintainer 01:05 < karasz> ack 01:06 < mnemoc> so, as you documented all your hackery, mail it so we can fix desktop officially for x86_64 01:06 < morfoh> and all of you know I didn't use "god" that often 01:06 < karasz> kde has colors lik ecrap, resolution is low, but who cares 01:06 < morfoh> karasz: tune your xorg.conf ;) 01:06 < mnemoc> xcfgt2 should set your xorg.conf decently 01:06 < karasz> it is decent 01:07 < karasz> but ugly as hell 01:07 < mnemoc> kde stile 01:07 < karasz> but 01:07 < mnemoc> style 01:07 < karasz> tomorrow is another day 01:07 < karasz> now i am too tired 01:07 < karasz> before i leave 01:07 < karasz> mnemoc, it may be an ugly workaround but ... 01:07 < morfoh> .oO( same here )o 01:08 < karasz> what should i have done? 01:08 < morfoh> karasz: you have done absolutely right :) 01:08 < mnemoc> karasz: yes, but points out a real issue 01:08 < karasz> right as in if it works who cares how... 01:09 < morfoh> right as your are now able to use T2 01:09 < karasz> dear morfoh :) 01:09 < morfoh> karasz: please not so much love ... I got enough from mnemoc for today :) 01:09 < morfoh> :p 01:10 < karasz> :( 01:10 < jsaw> arrived at home, re for sec 01:10 < morfoh> wb jsaw for a sec 01:10 < jsaw> mnemoc: in the first one, I miss diet in front of cc 01:10 < jsaw> morfoh: :) 01:10 < morfoh> karasz: but of course your love makes me very proud ... so don't worry :) 01:10 < mnemoc> karasz: giving proper feeback next time your build will be flawless 01:11 < karasz> i will try to give propper feedback ;) 01:11 < morfoh> good answer 01:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: -DFLWRAPPER_LIBC='' is an interesting problem 01:12 < jsaw> that also... 01:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: cc is a wrapper to `diet gcc` 01:12 < jsaw> ah ok 01:13 < morfoh> karasz: sorry ... I'll try a # rmmod random-crap-in-brain ;) 01:13 < mnemoc> -> Building tools.chroot/lib/fl_wrapper.so. 01:13 < mnemoc> ++ ls '/lib64/libc.*' '/lib/libc.*' 01:13 < mnemoc> ++ head -n1 01:13 < mnemoc> + FLWRAPPER_LIBC= 01:13 < mnemoc> + '[' '!' -f ']' 01:13 < mnemoc> + '[' 2 -lt 2 ']' 01:13 < mnemoc> + FLWRAPPER_BASEDIR= 01:13 < mnemoc> + set +x 01:13 < mnemoc> ^--- stupid bash! 01:13 < mnemoc> '' is not a valid file stupid shell! 01:13 < jsaw> mnemoc: put quotes around it 01:14 < jsaw> -f "$FL... 01:14 < mnemoc> !> The package build aborted with the following config error: 01:14 < mnemoc> !> Unable to detect /lib/libc.* for flwrapper 01:14 < jsaw> [ -f ] evaluates to true 01:14 < mnemoc> better 01:14 < jsaw> yep! 01:14 < mnemoc> but stupid bash anyway 01:16 < jsaw> append $xroot/usr/dietlibc/lib/... ? 01:16 < karasz> cu all 01:16 < jsaw> cu karasz 01:16 < morfoh> cu karasz 01:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: why not symlinking them to /lib ? 01:16 < jsaw> mnemoc: hmm, probably even better 01:18 < CIA-1> amery * r14502 /trunk/scripts/Build-Tools: * fixed FLWRAPPER_LIBC check to fail if nothing is found 01:18 < jsaw> mnemoc: maybe you could even set libdir=/lib{64} for dietlibc ? 01:18 < mnemoc> jsaw: ok 01:19 < jsaw> if it's possible... 01:19 < mnemoc> we will see.. 01:19 < jsaw> don't remember exactly if diet.c can digest that... 01:19 < mnemoc> jsaw: btw, 1-perl doesn't cross-build to dietlibc 01:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: miniperl? 01:19 < mnemoc> yes 01:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: it see crypt.h on host, and try to use it to cross build miniperl 01:20 < jsaw> do both miniperl makes fail? 01:20 < mnemoc> the second 01:20 < jsaw> crypt on host... aha 01:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: afaik dietlibc has no crypt.h ... or am I wrong ? 01:21 < mnemoc> that's the problem 01:21 < jsaw> fl_wrapper should also deny read access outside basedir... 01:21 < morfoh> perhaps sth. like undef HAS_CRYPT can solve the problem ... 01:21 < mnemoc> jsaw: isn't a bit risky? 01:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: perl sucks, no HAS_* 01:21 < morfoh> dunno 01:22 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.223] has joined #t2 01:22 < morfoh> I just thought of it because I think I saw sth. similar there 01:24 < morfoh> but I guess I should better go sleep 01:24 < morfoh> gn8 folks 01:24 < mnemoc> i was _9h_ today playing with perl.conf and Configure 01:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: working tomorrow? 01:24 < morfoh> yes 01:24 < mnemoc> finaly :) 01:24 < morfoh> yep 01:24 < morfoh> gn8 01:25 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEF73E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 01:25 < mnemoc> uhm Ariel Sharon had a brain attack 01:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: perl has HAS_* 01:26 < jsaw> try -DHAS_CRYPT and -DHAS_CRYPT_R ? maybe ? 01:27 < mnemoc> but how to undefine? 01:27 < mnemoc> perl-5.8.7/reentr.c:236:#ifdef HAS_CRYPT_R 01:28 < jsaw> as well as I_CRYPT 01:28 < mnemoc> i have been trying with I_CRYPT 01:28 < mnemoc> but i didn't see HAS_CRYPT_R 01:29 < mnemoc> but i can patch in an #undef 01:29 < mnemoc> here it is! 01:29 < mnemoc> perl-5.8.7/config.h:3714:#define HAS_CRYPT /**/ 01:32 < jsaw> have fun with it, I have to count sheeps now 01:32 < jsaw> or maybe I count GHz or Mb or so 01:32 < jsaw> cu all 01:33 < jsaw> (1500secs later...) ;) 01:36 < mnemoc> :) 01:36 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw 01:54 < CIA-1> amery * r14503 /branches/2.1/misc/isomd5sum/ (libcheckisomd5.c libimplantisomd5.c): * merged 14399 from trunk: compiler complains about signedness of char/unsigned char usage 01:56 < CIA-1> amery * r14504 /branches/2.1/misc/tools-source/ (fl_wrapper.c.sh fl_wrapper_execl.c fl_wrapper_test.sh): 01:56 < CIA-1> * merged 14501 from trunk: 01:56 < CIA-1> * replacement for strchrnul for dietlibc 01:56 < CIA-1> * use PATH_MAX for buffers instead of guessed buffer sizes 01:56 < CIA-1> * libgen.h for basename (also dietlibc related) 01:56 < CIA-1> * replace get_current_dir (GNU extension) 01:56 < CIA-1> * fix fl_wrapper_test to run in base directory 01:59 < CIA-1> amery * r14505 /branches/2.1/scripts/Build-Tools: * merged 14502 from trunk: fixed FLWRAPPER_LIBC check to fail if nothing is found 02:12 < CIA-1> amery * r14506 /trunk/package/base/strace/strace.desc: * fixed strace [U] 02:17 < CIA-1> amery * r14507 /branches/2.1/package/base/strace/strace.desc: * merged 14506 from trunk: fixed strace [U] 02:19 < CIA-1> amery * r14508 /branches/2.1/package/base/dietlibc/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 02:19 < CIA-1> * merged 14461,14467 from trunk: changed dietlibc to have POSIX utime, execl and execle 02:19 < CIA-1> * merged 14480 from trunk: enabled WANT_MALLOC_ZERO in dietlibc since GNU sed depends on it 02:19 < CIA-1> * merged 14481 from trunk: extended dietlibc/pkg_coreutils.patch to not crash with dietlibc 02:45 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF4BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:05 < CIA-1> amery * r14509 /branches/2.1/package/base/embutils/ (5 files): 03:05 < CIA-1> * merged 13306,13400,13477 from trunk: improved embutils to remotly disable it's tools shared with traditional packages. cmd on diffutils, write on util-linux and which on bash 03:05 < CIA-1> * merged 9771 from trunk: added move support to mount and fixed the option parser to allow parsing of single, not seperated, options ... 03:05 < CIA-1> * merged 14026 from trunk: fixed embutils mount to not crash when no type is specified (long standing bug) 03:24 < CIA-1> amery * r14510 /branches/2.1/package/base/runit/packages/ (5 files): 03:24 < CIA-1> * merged 12098,12106 from trunk: added .tail file for prelude-manager and prelude-lml 03:24 < CIA-1> * merged 12099 from trunk: added runit run file for snort 03:24 < CIA-1> * merged 13666 from trunk: added runit/clamav tail file 03:24 < CIA-1> * merged 14404 from trunk: fixed runit/sysklogd init script, it had abandoned debugging instructions. 03:24 < CIA-1> * merged 13290 from trunk: improved runit/3 to stop gdm, kdm and xdm on the beging so they don't respawn 04:02 -!- ojh [n=omer@70-56-27-70.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 04:11 < CIA-1> amery * r14511 /trunk/package/base/gcc/ (13 files): * changed gcc's -fstack-protector condition to use a case/esac, and updated copyright notes 04:17 < CIA-1> amery * r14512 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * fixed r14511 indentation 04:20 < CIA-1> amery * r14513 /branches/2.1/package/base/gcc/ (18 files): * merged 14511,14512 from trunk: changed gcc's -fstack-protector condition to use a case/esac, and updated copyright notes 04:22 < CIA-1> amery * r14514 /branches/2.1/package/mail/bincimap/ (6 files): * merged 14498 from trunk: fixed bincimap for x86-64 compilation, and updated copyright note 05:14 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.244.123] has joined #t2 05:41 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.252.223] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:52 < CIA-1> amery * r14515 /trunk/package/ (base/rocknet/ network/rocknet/): * moved rocknet from base/ to network/ 06:02 < rxr> re 06:08 < rxr> 995 builds total, 899 completed fine, 96 with errors. 06:08 < rxr> `- trunk ppc64 06:08 < rxr> desktop 06:08 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.2.0-alpha-powerpc64-G5-desktop: 06:11 < CIA-1> amery * r14516 /trunk/package/base/ (6 files in 2 dirs): * splited mkpkg out of sysfiles - command-line tool for creating packages 06:13 < CIA-1> amery * r14517 /trunk/package/ (7 files in 2 dirs): * moved cdrtools from base/ to filesystem/, and updated copyright notes 06:58 < rxr> re 06:58 < rxr> moin mnemoc !!! 07:31 < rxr> I just read scrollback some darwin elaboration from benh .... 07:31 < rxr> guess I'll not dig into Darwin when the code is so crappy that benh bashes so loudly about it ... 07:48 < CIA-1> rene * r14520 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-vesa/xf86-video-vesa.desc: * marked xf86-video-vesa x86 x86-64 07:55 < CIA-1> rene * r14521 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-via/xf86-video-via.desc: * marked xf86-video-via x86, x86-64 07:57 < CIA-1> rene * r14522 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-vmware/xf86-video-vmware.desc: * marked xf86-video-vmware x86, x86-64 08:13 < rxr> I'll package the open source qemu kernel module today I think 08:26 < rxr> so /me uni cu 08:33 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 10:18 < mipe> wierd, laptop is out of order again 10:18 < mipe> i guess its the display thats damaged since on external it workds 10:23 < mipe> and subversion is segfaulting in nssdb through apr function while getting username 10:31 < CIA-1> mika * r14523 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif/doc-install.patch: * fix libexif doc installation 10:31 < mipe> svn commit does work when passing --username :) 10:41 < mipe> so how far does generic cross dietlibc build? 11:31 < rxr> mipe: uhm 11:32 < rxr> much stuff does built - however some important packages afail again, I think perl 11:33 < rxr> mipe: hm - nssdb is a bit evil - maybe we should not build it by defayt 11:33 < rxr> default 11:33 < rxr> I gues it is due different db usage of svn 11:34 < rxr> and diffinetly link it against the db statically again 11:34 < rxr> 11:34 < rxr> Postfix 2.2.8 11:36 < rxr> http://www.free-penguin.org/ 12:02 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFBB69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 12:04 < Baldzius> rxr: we have postfix 2.2.8 since yesterday :) 12:14 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF8B9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:20 < rxr> juche - more OS X driver requests from the TAIWAN manfucture - let's see if this can bring the driver into a profitable margin ... 12:20 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE8B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 12:21 < morfoh> moin 12:22 < valentin> moin 12:22 < valentin> rxr: did you merge the profiles code yet ? 12:24 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:24 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 12:25 < rxr> valentin: merge ? 12:26 < valentin> i.e. svn up and compile 12:26 < rxr> valentin: are you at home ? 12:26 < rxr> valentin: hehe svn up is not exactly like merging ... 12:26 < rxr> valentin: should I call ? 12:26 < rxr> moin morfoh 12:26 < rxr> la la la - /me so happy to finally have konqueror and kmail on the main workstation now again ... 12:27 < rxr> some days ago a mail would have lingered around 3d++ until I would have feeled to start kmail on the laptop ... ,-) 12:29 < valentin> rxr: no you do not need to call - was just a question 12:29 < rxr> I think I gave it a spin 12:29 < valentin> need to shower now 12:29 < rxr> but since IRIS fixed thier App themselfs the customer with complains is happy now 12:30 < rxr> and I have a AV610 issue to debug on my box - this is why I have nt packaged a new version already 12:30 < rxr> IIRC I also need to integrate button polling to select the profile from the scanner device itself, right? 12:30 < valentin> yep. 12:31 < valentin> bbl 12:31 < rxr> and finally wire out the button control to alllow starting scanning from within e.g. ExactScan waiting in the background ... 12:31 < rxr> valentin: cu 12:31 < valentin> (i want to tweak some bits at the driver, too) 12:31 < valentin> maybe we finish a new version till monday ? 12:31 < valentin> so, now bbl 12:31 < rxr> well - I have to do debug usb tinkery in the linux kernel and do uni work till monday 12:32 < rxr> and I want to do the uni stuff in-time this time ... 12:32 < rxr> no need for a second exmatriculation due to missed timelines ... 12:38 < morfoh> moin valentin + rxr 12:43 < rxr> hi morfoh 12:43 < CIA-1> rene * r14524 /trunk/package/base/ (sysfiles/system.init sysvinit/system.init): 12:43 < CIA-1> * moved the system.init from sysfiles into sysvinit sinc eit is highly 12:43 < CIA-1> sysvinit specific and can easily be updated this way thru Emerge 12:44 < rxr> our new sorting scales so well ... 12:44 < morfoh> :) 12:45 < morfoh> rxr: if you are already on an init ... I'm trying to run a embedded dietlibc image within an UML, but unfort. I it can't get an initial console 12:46 < morfoh> I think /dev is the problem 12:46 < rxr> uml ? 12:46 < morfoh> user-mode-linux 12:46 < rxr> I would emulate qith qemu or so to get real hardware near coverage 12:46 < rxr> in fact I never tried uml for various reasons ... 12:47 < rxr> it might be as simple as udev or old styles nodes missing 12:47 < rxr> but could be s.th. uml specific 12:47 < morfoh> yeah ... but qemu doesn't build here :/ 12:47 < rxr> but, well, I do not know such uml details 12:47 < rxr> morfoh: in 30 minutes you have it ... 12:47 < rxr> morfoh: on trunk I guess ? 12:47 < rxr> then it is due to gcc 4 - fixed with a commit in 30 minutes ... 12:47 < morfoh> arrg ... don't worry about me 12:48 < rxr> hm ? 12:48 < morfoh> I'll try to get one compiled again 12:48 < rxr> qemu ? 12:48 < morfoh> do your stuff ... which is more important 12:48 < morfoh> but thanks ;) 12:48 < rxr> in fact I'm on qemu for my stuff ... 12:48 < rxr> morfoh: you need to patch qemu to build for gcc 4 12:48 < rxr> I did this weeks ago .... 12:48 < morfoh> I'm not on trunk 12:48 < rxr> just not committed ... 12:49 < rxr> if you want to not waste on selecting patchsets you can do other stuff until the 30m commit ... 12:49 < morfoh> rxr: and I'vee updated qemu localy to 0.8.0 12:49 < rxr> and I even add the open source kernel accelerator ... on the way ... 12:49 < morfoh> okok :) 12:49 < rxr> 0.8.0 does not include the right code (tm) for gcc-4 12:49 < morfoh> you're the qemu men 12:49 < rxr> in fact I would use either a pre 0.8.0+ patches snapshot or 0.7.2 + patches ... 12:50 < morfoh> hmmm ... but they claim they improved mips support within 0.8.0 12:50 < rxr> in fact the 0.8 configure contains a gcc 4.x check and only builds with some --try-with-gcc-4-though-it-does-not-work switch 12:50 < rxr> that might very well be 12:51 < morfoh> ok ... but anyway ... if I get a working qemu >= 0.7.2 that's fine 12:51 < rxr> but I need one compiling and working ... 12:51 < jsaw> re 12:51 < rxr> hi jsaw 12:51 < morfoh> wb jsaw 12:52 < jsaw> hi rxr, morfoh 12:53 < morfoh> rxr: at least 0.8.0 builds on 2.1 with gcc 3.4.4 smoothly 12:54 < rxr> yep 12:54 < rxr> but I have no such old gcc in production ... 12:55 < jsaw> rxr: I wonder that fl_wrapper did not produce more problems... 12:55 < rxr> I wonder if it works at all 12:55 < rxr> I also wonder that not more stuff wanted malloc(0) 12:55 < jsaw> rxr: e.g. "filterdir" and later a copy to filterdir2 12:56 < jsaw> rxr: filterdir was char[2048] and filterdir2 was char[1024] 12:56 < jsaw> ... 12:56 < jsaw> and so on 12:56 < rxr> I know 12:56 < rxr> I raised them from 512 or so at rock times ... 12:56 < rxr> !!! 12:56 < jsaw> rxr: I wouldn't bet on this, malloc(0) can also be hidden 12:56 < jsaw> rxr: 512 ???????????????????? 12:56 < rxr> jsaw: yes - like crashing on high moon 12:57 < jsaw> hehe "on high moon" 12:57 < jsaw> :D 12:59 < morfoh> jsaw: look ... even after you cleaned the foruncle's out of your face they are still in your head ;) 13:05 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178179070.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:05 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 13:05 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Jan 2 15:21:42 2006] 13:05 [Users #t2] 13:05 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-1 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 13:05 [ axion ] [ demian] [ mnemoc] [ owl] [ sparc-kly_] [ _Ragnar_] 13:05 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ rxr] [ valentin ] 13:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 13:05 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 13:05 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 13:05 < morfoh> after the doc got that sh*t out, I had a nice hole in my knee 13:06 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 31 secs 13:07 < jsaw> morfoh: I know. My father-in-law has a large whole in his back 13:07 < jsaw> maybe 10cm long, 0.5cm deep ... 13:07 < morfoh> uhhh! 13:07 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178178050.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:08 < morfoh> that's too big 13:08 < jsaw> morfoh: they didn't clean it correctly the first time, then it stratified... 13:09 < morfoh> mine wasn't cutted out ... fortunately the doc tried antibiotics first 13:10 < morfoh> he just pulled the f* sh*t out, and fortunately it just left a small scar 13:10 < CIA-1> rene * r14525 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: 13:10 < CIA-1> * prevent build faillures due hostname = (none), translate braces to 13:10 < CIA-1> underscores to prevent evaluation errors 13:17 * jsaw wonders if germans would accept politicians older than 70 13:21 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFDA3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:24 < rxr_> jsaw: ? 13:24 < jsaw> Israel... 13:24 < rxr_> how much junger is stoiber ? 13:25 < jsaw> Sharon (77), Olmert (82) ... 13:25 < jsaw> stoiber is 65 13:26 < rxr_> oh - just 65 ? 13:27 < jsaw> yep, 1941 13:27 < rxr_> well if he would have become some bundeskanzler he woudl be nearly 70 and the end of his first period as well ... 13:27 < jsaw> it's not far away, right 13:28 < jsaw> (and honestly, I prefer elder leaders) 13:28 < jsaw> (indenpendant of if I like their respective views) 13:29 < jsaw> brb - coffee 13:29 < rxr_> no dancing guido westerwelle ,-)? 13:29 < rxr_> oh - need fresh on as well ... 13:29 -!- You're now known as rxr 13:30 < morfoh> rxr: seems you're a little Guido fan :p 13:30 < rxr> morfoh: yeah - and what a fan I'm ... 13:30 < morfoh> rxr: I can imagine :) 13:36 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 13:36 < karasz> moin all 13:40 < jsaw> rxr: well, the elder ppl I deal with do not take themselves too serious, that's why I prefer them, so, for me, guido is an exception (I'm not a fan of him, but I find him ok) 13:41 < jsaw> reiserfs question: any special options i should pass to mkreiserfs ? 13:41 < rxr> not that I know off 13:42 < jsaw> so, fire... (migrating home partition to reiserfs now) 13:44 < jsaw> rxr: what's the entry in fstab? "reiserfs"? 13:44 < rxr> yes 13:44 < jsaw> and after that? 13:44 < rxr> though I usually leave it at auto ... 13:44 < rxr> defaults 13:44 < rxr> as usual .. 13:44 < jsaw> ext3 has "data=ordered" on standard installation 13:47 < jsaw> hmm, vi needs an update for fstab 13:48 * jsaw starts liking vi 13:49 < morfoh> rxr: sorry ... but how do you invoke qemu with a squashfs rootfs ? 13:49 < rxr> oehm 13:49 < rxr> I usual create a disk or cd image 13:50 < rxr> to be honest I find scripting with grub easier and thus i usually boot my images via grub from a on-th-fly generated images ... 13:50 < rxr> in theory you could at least ramdisks with the -initrd option but it never worked for me ... 13:53 < rxr> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2005-12/msg00323.html 13:53 < rxr> `- oh someone lese noticed ... 13:55 < Baldzius> jsaw: trunk shadow compiles for you? 13:55 < jsaw> yes 13:55 < Baldzius> gcc: /usr/lib/libpam_misc.so: No such file or directory 13:55 < Baldzius> gcc: /usr/lib/libpam.so: No such file or directory 13:55 < jsaw> o.O 13:56 < jsaw> aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh 13:56 < jsaw> while :; do echo -n "fsck libtool "; done 13:56 < jsaw> Baldzius: .la files are wrong 13:57 * jsaw really hates libtool 13:57 < Baldzius> i noticed your note: need a correct system-auth file (or local login won't work...) 13:57 < Baldzius> ^^- shadow's svn log 13:57 < jsaw> Baldzius: done already 13:57 < Baldzius> thank goodness it failed :) 13:58 < Baldzius> oh :) ic 13:58 < rxr> QEMU integrates a built-in Samba server from version 0.6.1 (CVS). See the -smb option in the QEMU documentation. 13:58 < rxr> `- huh? 13:59 < jsaw> Baldzius: I hope I committed 13:59 < Baldzius> :) 13:59 < jsaw> still moving data around, checking in a sec 14:01 < jsaw> Baldzius: oh, this "need a correct system-auth file" should have read "a correct system-auth file was needed" 14:01 < jsaw> damn... 14:01 < jsaw> it is exactly that revision that fixed the problem 14:02 < Baldzius> heh :) 14:05 < axion> mnemoc: how much is left to transfer? 14:10 < mnemoc> moin 14:10 < morfoh> moin mnemoc 14:10 < rxr> moin mnemoc 14:10 < mnemoc> axion: du -h public_html/t2 14:10 < mnemoc> moiun rxr 14:11 < karasz> re all 14:11 < mnemoc> axion: 9,1G here, how much already uploaded? 14:12 < axion> 7.2G 14:12 < rxr> morfoh: you might get your 0.8.0 I think 14:13 < rxr> patches and qvm86 look compatible ... 14:13 * rxr still reviewing cut'n pasting ... 14:13 < rxr> mnemoc: I hope you are fine with the long night shift you have done on t2 ... 14:14 < mnemoc> rxr: what did i broke? 14:15 < rxr> I have no breakage yet ... 14:15 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14526 /trunk/package/base/acl/acl.desc: * flagged acl NOPARALLEL 14:15 < mnemoc> cool :) 14:15 < rxr> not that I have rebuild all ... 14:15 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14527 /trunk/package/base/attr/attr.conf: * ignore man pages, as these are in the man-pages package 14:15 < mnemoc> btw, i didn't add mkpkg to templates or targets, but it's X for generic 14:16 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14528 /trunk/package/e16/enlightenment16/enlightenment16.conf: * the enlightenment 16 wm is "e16" now, not "enlightenment" anymore 14:17 < rxr> jsaw: ack r14528 14:17 < jsaw> :) 14:19 < rxr> integrated image editing in vista ... 14:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: could you check the vserver stone module (it doesn't do anything here, just fails when creating a new server) 14:19 < rxr> does bill gates speak about the good old paint.exe ? 14:20 < morfoh> rxr: cool ... already trying to build a mips kernel for testing ... but I haven't succesfully ran qemu yet 14:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: what kind of fail crating the new server? 14:20 < jsaw> /etc/vserver/ does not exist iirc 14:21 < mnemoc> and what's the output of the command? 14:21 < jsaw> that's the output 14:21 < jsaw> or alike 14:21 < mnemoc> ehm 14:21 < jsaw> the vserver command is run before you can enter any values... 14:22 < mnemoc> there is a prompt.... 14:22 < jsaw> nope 14:22 < mnemoc> vserver_new() { 14:22 < mnemoc> local server= action= errno= 14:22 < mnemoc> gui_input "Enter a name for the new vserver" '' server 14:22 < mnemoc> if [ "$server" ]; then 14:22 < mnemoc> action="vserver '$server' build -m skeleton --initstyle plain" 14:22 < jsaw> oh, that you mean 14:23 < jsaw> of course I give it a name 14:23 < mnemoc> or gui_input is broken 14:23 < jsaw> but then, nothing happens 14:23 < mnemoc> vserver build is not called? 14:23 < mnemoc> does it work by hand? 14:23 < jsaw> sec 14:24 < karasz> anyone cares to remember me the patch part for Create-CopyPatch? 14:24 < mnemoc> | patch -p0 14:24 < jsaw> ah, that's the problem: 14:24 < jsaw> ~# vserver http build -m skeleton --initstyle plain 14:24 < jsaw> Root-directory '/vservers' does not exist or is invalid 14:25 < mnemoc> :p 14:25 < mnemoc> remember to apply the barrier to it 14:25 < karasz> yup 14:25 < jsaw> mnemoc: barrier??? 14:26 < mnemoc> it's an attribute, to tell kernel never ever break chroots started there 14:26 < jsaw> and how do I do that? 14:26 < mnemoc> http://linux-vserver.org/Step-By-Step+Guide+2.6 :) 14:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: .... stone module ? ... 14:27 < jsaw> :p 14:27 < mnemoc> setattr --barrier /vservers 14:27 < mnemoc> i think it should be done on the init script... to be sure 14:27 < jsaw> yeah, but should be done by stone... 14:27 < jsaw> or there... 14:28 < mnemoc> feel free to complete stone module :) 14:28 < mnemoc> btw, fl_wrapper.so still looking like a glibc binary 14:28 < mnemoc> with all .so and .o symlinked to /lib 14:28 < jsaw> <- vserver newbie, not the right guy to play with stone module 14:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: :( 14:29 < mnemoc> the most important warning, never binding something to 0 on host 14:29 < mnemoc> bind* 14:30 < jsaw> ? 14:30 < mnemoc> ssh, or any other server 14:30 < jsaw> bind sth. to 0 ??? 14:30 < mnemoc> on host, never bind the to 0.0.0.0 14:30 < jsaw> oh socket you mean 14:30 < demian> bye 14:30 -!- demian [n=Jonathan@201.206.44.210] has left #t2 [] 14:30 < mnemoc> any service* 14:31 < mnemoc> yuck, i type sh* even in the morning 14:31 < jsaw> mnemoc: ssh does this by default, doesn't it? 14:31 < mnemoc> yep 14:31 < mnemoc> so you have to set it to use host's ip 14:31 < mnemoc> and give host at least one ip of each subnet used on guests 14:32 < mnemoc> to be sure primary in never taken by the guest 14:32 < jsaw> oh my... 14:33 < mnemoc> because if you, when stoping guest, release a primary ip of a subnet, all other ips of that subnet will be droped 14:33 < jsaw> can I launch extra dhcps to get new ips for each vserver? 14:33 < mnemoc> killing all your other guests using ips of that subnet 14:33 < mnemoc> jsaw: probably using client-id, but not sure 14:34 < rxr> mnemoc: if all goes as expected we have a accelerated qemu in t2 today ... 14:34 < rxr> even buildable with gcc-4.0 in trunk 14:34 < rxr> and the kernel acceleartor beeing open source 14:34 < jsaw> mnemoc: my little dsl box handles all IP addresses... 14:34 < morfoh> rxr: yeah :) 14:34 < rxr> kernel module buitl postlinux of course ... 14:35 < morfoh> rxr: I was also wondeing to see that there is a confopt for the kernel module 14:35 < mnemoc> jsaw: all ips are always on the host, but if the _primary_ is the one set to a guest, you will have troubles 14:35 < jsaw> mnemoc: oh 14:36 < mnemoc> an linux set one primary per subnet 14:36 < jsaw> mnemoc: so, let's say, my main ip is in the 192.168.1 subnet, then I would take e.g. 192.168.2.* for my guests? 14:37 < jsaw> s/would/could/ ? 14:37 < mnemoc> no, if guests are 192.168.x.*, the host must have one ip on 192.168.1.* 14:37 < mnemoc> err 14:37 < mnemoc> no, if guests are 192.168.x.*, the host must have one ip on 192.168.x.* 14:37 < mnemoc> i.e. if your guests are at 192.168.2.*, your host must have an ip on 192.168.2. 14:38 < mnemoc> before the guests start 14:38 < axion> anyone know wget parameters to mirror an index listing? 14:38 < jsaw> ok. I'll rtfm, then come back with questions... 14:38 < mnemoc> ex, one of my hosts is 192.168.1.4 14:38 < mnemoc> which also keeps 192.168.10.1 14:38 < mnemoc> and the guests are 192.168.10.$xid 14:39 < jsaw> ic 14:39 < mnemoc> so, stoping a guest, will never drop the primary ip for 192.168.10/24 14:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: could we use tuntap for a vserver ? 14:39 < jsaw> so if you have the http server under vserver, from outside it appears as 192.168.1.4:80, but inside it goes to 192.168.10.*, right? 14:41 < mnemoc> outside it appear as 192.168.10.$foo 14:41 < jsaw> hmmm 14:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: perhaps one could attach the tap interface to a virtual bridge interface started on host ... dunno. just an idea 14:41 < jsaw> that's what I need 14:41 < mnemoc> morfoh: on vserver 2.1 there is a thing called vnetng, you may want to read about 14:42 < jsaw> I can't tell my router to use an unknown IP (which is an ip it didn't offer itself) to forward ports to... 14:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: ah! ok ... thx for the hint 14:42 < mnemoc> jsaw: i have a pound on host which balance between guests 14:42 < rxr> morfoh: I also found a initrd patch 14:42 < rxr> morfoh: but it is for x86 only anyway I think 14:42 < rxr> == 01/05/06 15:42:00 =[9]=> Finished building package qemu. 14:42 < morfoh> rxr: :) 14:42 < jsaw> mnemoc: another term .... "pound" ... 14:42 < rxr> `- trunk 0.8.0 with tons of patche s... 14:43 < morfoh> jsaw: pound is a http/https reverse-proxy/loadbalancer 14:43 < mnemoc> jsaw: it's a package 14:43 < rxr> morfoh: even works 14:43 < rxr> testing booting monowall lingering on my machine ... 14:43 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://linux-vserver.org/NGNET-Development 14:43 < morfoh> rxr: cool :) 14:44 < morfoh> rxr: can you paste the cmd line here pls ? 14:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: it's a very simple reverse proxy, load balancer and https frontend 14:44 < jsaw> *reading* 14:44 < jsaw> thanks 14:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: very nice to have virtual hosts with https :) 14:45 < rxr> hey - even -initrd works now ... 14:45 < mnemoc> rxr: why dietlibc's libs are fixed to lib-i386? 14:45 < rxr> too bad I did all the t2 initramfs tinkery with a on-the-fly grub iso creation ... 14:45 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 14:45 < mnemoc> /usr/dietlibc/lib-i386 i mean 14:46 < jsaw> oh my... 14:46 < rxr> mnemoc: you mean also on mips ... ? 14:46 < jsaw> vserver http start 14:46 < rxr> morfoh: oh - that was qemu 0.7.2 I built .. 14:46 < jsaw> * The configured vshelper '/sbin/vshelper' does not match the 'vshelper' 14:46 < rxr> anyway nice patchset .... 14:46 < jsaw> script of the util-vserver package 14:46 < jsaw> * The vshelper state-directory '/var/run/vshelper' does not exist; since 14:46 < jsaw> it is created by 'make install', this indicates a serious problem with 14:46 < jsaw> your util-vserver installation 14:46 < mnemoc> package/base/dietlibc/pkg_perl_post.conf14:[ "$pkg_dietlibc_useit" = 1 ] && var_append confopt " " "-U usenm -D d_localtime_r -D libc=/usr/dietlibc/lib-i386" 14:47 < rxr> mnemoc: because some morron at rock times injected htat ... 14:47 < rxr> I bet it was not me .. 14:47 < rxr> it is lib-`echo $arch | arch2uname` 14:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: i don't use sysvinit, but i know vshelper is deprecated 14:47 < jsaw> so I disable vshelper now... 14:48 < mnemoc> rxr: can you try a non-cross build against dietlibc? 14:48 < CIA-1> rene * r14529 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (10 files): 14:48 < CIA-1> * prepared qemu for the qvm86 open source kernel module accelerator 14:48 < CIA-1> * important a whole lot of fixes from Mandiva, including compilation 14:48 < CIA-1> with gcc => 4.0 and x86-64 as well as -initrd fixes 14:48 < rxr> mnemoc: to what? 14:49 < rxr> help you fix perl ? 14:50 < mnemoc> rxr: nope, worse that that... tools.chroot get linked against glibc, at least ccache and patch segfault inside chroot and gawk scream about syntax on the proben gawk script to calculate ccache usage 14:51 < mnemoc> but on trunk you will get stoped on 1-perl because missdetection to configure miniperl 14:51 < rxr> mnemoc: there formerly was a hackery to make patch work at rock times 14:51 < rxr> maybe it got removed due to non-applying 14:51 < rxr> hover it was a evil quirk anyqay 14:51 < rxr> way 14:51 < rxr> mnemoc: is that urgent? 14:52 < rxr> I still have archivsita stuff todo - as well as uni stuff 'till next monday .. 14:52 < mnemoc> i'll keep hunting and bothering jsaw then :) 14:52 < rxr> and now I burn some time to polish and accelerate our qemu package ... 14:55 < CIA-1> rene * r14518 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: 14:55 < CIA-1> * fixed olist merge-back with reevaluation of the flistdel pattern 14:55 < CIA-1> so that rebuilds of packages after adapted flistdel pattern do not 14:55 < CIA-1> continue to show the deleted files in the flist 14:55 < rxr> http://scr3.golem.de/?d=0601/raptorx&a=42540 14:55 < rxr> `- transparent HD 14:56 < CIA-1> amery * r14530 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.desc: * updated ooo (2.0.0.1 -> 2.0.1) 14:57 < rxr> the next internal kde project: http://www.golem.de/0601/42533.html 14:59 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.90] has joined #t2 14:59 < menomc> yucj 14:59 < menomc> yuck 14:59 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.14] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:02 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 15:05 < mnemoc> jsaw: can you confirm bincimap's x86_64 patch is running fine? 15:09 < jsaw> not yet tested, but the x86_64 patch is only active while debugging and no real new code in that sense 15:09 < mnemoc> it was refused upstream :\ 15:10 < jsaw> EDONTCARE 15:10 < jsaw> if they don't want a 64bit version... 15:10 < mnemoc> "Just changing this pointer from int to long might not make binc x86-64 15:10 < mnemoc> compatible. There can still be other situations in the code where 15:10 < mnemoc> int/long's are mixed so we need to look over all the code to ensure its 15:10 < mnemoc> 64bits compatible. 15:10 < mnemoc> Thanks for supplying these patches!" 15:11 < jsaw> ah 15:11 < jsaw> that's different 15:11 < mnemoc> :) 15:11 < mnemoc> not a refuse like on LKML or bash list :) 15:12 < jsaw> EDONTCARE_SNAPSHOT_WITHDRAWN 15:13 < mnemoc> :) 15:13 < jsaw> mnemoc: and the other patch ? 15:13 < mnemoc> "I am unsure if this really makes any difference since I belive gnu c++ 15:13 < mnemoc> zero's all stack variables. But since it doesnt really change anything I 15:13 < mnemoc> commited it." 15:13 < jsaw> oh 15:14 < jsaw> btw, with this, NO WARNINGS AT ALL while compiling bincimap... 15:14 < jsaw> that's a good sign 15:14 < mnemoc> yes 15:14 < mnemoc> warnings are evil 15:14 < rxr> what is the 2nd patch ? 15:14 < jsaw> some uninitialized values 15:14 < jsaw> variables* 15:14 < rxr> did you had a problem due that or warning ? 15:15 < rxr> jsaw: patch in t2 to look at ? 15:15 < jsaw> no, but jsaw prefers correct code 15:15 < jsaw> yep, see bincimap folder 15:15 < jsaw> uninitialized*.patch 15:15 < rxr> damn 15:15 < jsaw> ? 15:15 < rxr> C-c'ed the qemu build 15:15 < rxr> we need should trap and do it again if you are sure ... 15:16 < jsaw> wtf is wrong with bdb33's configure script... 15:16 < rxr> jsaw: hm - I think the patch is fine - IIRC it is not garuanteed those are zero 15:17 < jsaw> yep 15:17 < CIA-1> rene * r14531 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (5 files): * updated qemu (0.7.2 -> 0.8.0) 15:18 < rxr> `- should build fine 15:18 < rxr> but only tested manually with a slighly other patchset 15:18 < jsaw> and just relying on "the gnu c++ will do this and that" might cause problems later on... 15:18 < rxr> and C-c'ed it accidently 15:18 < rxr> know for sure in 10m or so 15:18 * rxr of getting a pizza ... 15:18 < rxr> morfoh: postlinux stuff after my lunch walk ... 15:18 < rxr> or a fix if it fails to bulid in the meantime ... 15:18 * rxr back soon 15:20 < CIA-1> rene * r14519 /trunk/package/network/irssi/irssi.conf: 15:20 < CIA-1> * fixed irssi to include the perllocal config since it shared the file 15:20 < CIA-1> with perl in my latest build 15:32 -!- sherniux [n=ss@81-7-79-120.ip.takas.lt] has joined #t2 15:35 < mnemoc> oh, .lt 15:35 < mnemoc> hi sherniux 15:36 < rxr> == 01/05/06 16:23:14 =[9]=> Finished building package qemu. 15:36 < mnemoc> :D 15:37 < morfoh> :) 15:37 < mnemoc> configure:1959: i686-t2-linux-gnu-gcc --version &5 15:37 < mnemoc> cmd_wrapper: execvp(diet-dyn,...) - No such file or directory 15:37 < mnemoc> configure:1962: $? = 253 15:37 < mnemoc> sweet 15:38 < mnemoc> this promise lot of fun :p 15:38 < sherniux> Baldzius esi? 15:39 < rxr> mnemoc: maye a simple tzpo ? 15:40 < rxr> mnemoc: do you _need_ dietlibc based stuff for something right now? or do you improve it just for the fun of it ? 15:40 < rxr> btw. dizzling snow here again ,-) 15:41 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFDA3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:41 < morfoh> rxr: guess he would like to run a dietlibc based sedu router 15:41 < mnemoc> rxr: i need to deploy a 'sedu' in next week and i don't want it uclibc based 15:41 < rxr> mnemoc: ic ... 15:41 < morfoh> :) 15:41 < rxr> you can assume I can look into patch reasonably soon 15:41 < rxr> what was the other corruption ? 15:42 -!- sherniux [n=ss@81-7-79-120.ip.takas.lt] has quit [] 15:43 < mnemoc> fl_wrapper linked against glibc, gawk 'syntax' issues, ccache and patch segfaulting, 1-miniperl crosscompiled from glibc to dietlibc, and ccache and patch segfaulting 15:43 < rxr> quite a bit 8-X 15:43 < mnemoc> btw, can i install dietlibc on /lib on pure dietlibc systems? 15:43 < rxr> of course - with a bit of tweaking here and there ... 15:43 < mnemoc> rxr: at least now it enters stage 2 15:44 < rxr> without patch ? 15:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: trunk or 2.1 ? 15:44 < rxr> patch (1) I mean 15:44 < mnemoc> morfoh: trunk == 1-perl faling, the rest happen on 2.1 15:45 < morfoh> ic 15:45 < mnemoc> rxr: without patch what? 15:45 < rxr> I mean without the patch program ? 15:46 < mnemoc> patch is there, but segfaults 15:46 < mnemoc> as static 15:46 < rxr> so it does not build much in stage 2, ... ? 15:46 < mnemoc> i'm trying to do dyn-diet now 15:46 < mnemoc> nothing 15:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: uhm 15:46 < mnemoc> it starts 2-binutils, crash crash crash... bloood 15:47 < mnemoc> it builds tools.chroot, that's something 15:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: perhaps diet-dyn on x86 could work 15:48 < mnemoc> morfoh: yes, i'm trying to find the typo 15:48 < mnemoc> package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf :) 15:49 < mnemoc> ehm, no 15:50 < mnemoc> typing with lantency is the worse thing on the net 15:51 < mnemoc> # grep -rn dyn-diet build/sedu-2.1-stable-x86-pentium2-sedu/ 15:51 < mnemoc> Binary file build/sedu-2.1-stable-x86-pentium2-sedu/usr/bin/diet-dyn matches 15:51 < mnemoc> wth 15:58 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14532 /trunk/package/database/bdb33/typo-in-configure.patch: * some hours of debugging to find a single missing ' in the configure script 15:58 < Baldzius> mnemoc: sherniux is my brother but he is win user :) 15:59 < mnemoc> s/win /l/ ? 15:59 < Baldzius> jsaw: thanks for 14532 :) 15:59 < Baldzius> mnemoc: win :( 15:59 < jsaw> did bdb33 also fail for you... 16:00 < Baldzius> jsaw: yeah, i thought it was related to bash 3.1 16:00 < jsaw> it is, bash 3.1 is stricter 16:00 < jsaw> or less fault tolerant (TM) 16:01 < karasz> hmmm.... 16:01 < mnemoc> yuck 16:01 < Baldzius> bbl 16:01 < jsaw> cu Baldzius 16:01 < karasz> re all 16:01 < karasz> cu Baldzius 16:01 < karasz> guys i really tried... 16:01 < jsaw> gotta go to, cu later 16:01 < karasz> but i have a small problem with my 2nd package 16:01 < karasz> cu jsaw 16:02 < morfoh> cu jsaw 16:02 < karasz> so 16:02 < karasz> my pack has a really ugly Makefile 16:02 < karasz> in fact Makefile only contains a gcc command 16:02 < mnemoc> rxr: your pack arived! 16:03 < karasz> i made the .desc and a .conf files according to T2 way 16:03 < karasz> the pack builds fine 16:03 < mnemoc> karasz: congratulations 16:03 < karasz> but the compiled file remains in src dir and at the end of buildin' gets swept away by cleaning up 16:04 < karasz> mnemoc, too early i guess 16:04 < mnemoc> karasz: hook_add postmake 5 false 16:04 < karasz> ack 16:04 < rxr> mnemoc: cool! 16:04 * mnemoc trying to open it with a key 16:05 < mnemoc> now with an screwer 16:05 < rxr> mnemoc: you are at home ? 16:05 < mnemoc> office 16:05 < rxr> it arrived at the office ? 16:05 < mnemoc> yep 16:05 < mnemoc> that was the address 16:05 * rxr wonders if I have sent it to the office ... 16:05 < rxr> ah 16:05 < mnemoc> at least you wrote this address on the label :p 16:06 < mnemoc> post office deliver better to 'business places' than to small homes 16:07 < rxr> I hope the hardware survided the flight ... or shipping - whatever ... 16:07 < mnemoc> the box looks in good state 16:08 < rxr> and you enjoy the other content ... 16:08 < mnemoc> but still closed 16:08 * mnemoc going to get a knife 16:08 < rxr> be careful 16:08 < rxr> not to cut a tux for your childs ... 16:08 < rxr> one is at the top ,-) 16:08 < mnemoc> survived :) 16:09 < mnemoc> open 16:09 * mnemoc anxious 16:09 < mnemoc> woh 16:09 < karasz> mnemoc, now it is better 16:10 < karasz> but 16:10 < karasz> build exits with an error 16:10 < mnemoc> karasz: publish 16:10 < karasz> binary built and stayed in src... 16:10 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks a log! 16:10 < mnemoc> lot* 16:10 < karasz> i guess the error is irelevant as it is not an error 16:10 < rxr> mnemoc: well, in fact it is not as much as I hoped to gather together ... :-( 16:10 < karasz> binary build and functional 16:11 < rxr> the tux friendlly christmas card is on behalf of the t2 project ... 16:11 < karasz> mnemoc karasz: hook_add postmake 5 false 16:11 < karasz> ^^ as is? 16:11 < karasz> i mean no ' or " at all? 16:11 < mnemoc> as is 16:11 < mnemoc> to make it _abort_ 16:11 < karasz> also i need to copy the binary to /usr/bin 16:11 < mnemoc> so you can see what's inside the buildir 16:11 < rxr> mnemoc: I hope the language pack is good - I do only know hola in spanish thus I had no clude to choose ... 16:12 < karasz> so the error is due to that instruction which aborts 16:12 < karasz> in fact there is no error 16:12 < karasz> i need to copy the binary to /usr/bin 16:12 < mnemoc> rxr: looks good :) 16:12 < karasz> after it builds 16:12 < mnemoc> karasz: no, to $root/$bindir 16:13 < karasz> ok 16:13 < karasz> then to $root/$bindir 16:13 < karasz> how can i achive that? 16:13 < morfoh> rxr: guess you're not "guilty" regarding the amount of hardware :/ 16:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: but hopefully w can speak german soon ;) 16:14 < mnemoc> we will see :) 16:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, what did you tweaked on your dietsedu build ? 16:14 < mnemoc> morfoh: 2.1? all commited 16:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh cool ... 16:15 * morfoh running a test build then 16:15 < karasz> can i make a mv foo $root/$bindir/foo? 16:15 < karasz> in .conf? 16:15 < mnemoc> hook_add postmake 4 'cp -v foo $root/$bindir' 16:19 < karasz> ML here i come :) 16:19 < mnemoc> :) 16:20 < karasz> oops 16:20 < karasz> no .deps file... 16:20 < karasz> should I? 16:20 < mnemoc> .cache? copy it from var/adm/cache/foo 16:22 < karasz> done 16:24 < karasz> ML again this time with cache 16:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: == 01/05/06 17:29:07 =[1]=> Aborted building package gzip. <-- dietdyn sedu 16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: did your build passed 1-gzip ? 16:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you use SSP=1 ? 16:35 < mnemoc> it wasn't a sedu, was a minimal-minimal mnemosyne 'lightweight' 16:35 < mnemoc> without rsbac or ssp or anything but the minimal 16:35 < mnemoc> but on diet-dyn i stop at 1-gzip 16:36 < mnemoc> with diet-static i get 2-binutils 16:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: on dietdyn 1-gzip.err ? --> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables 16:37 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.150.10.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 16:37 < sepp> moin 16:37 < karasz> moin sepp 16:38 < sepp> hi karasz :) 16:38 < mnemoc> 12:38:40] configure:1959: i686-t2-linux-gnu-gcc --version &5 16:38 < mnemoc> [12:38:40] cmd_wrapper: execvp(diet-dyn,...) - No such file or directory 16:38 < mnemoc> [12:38:41] configure:1962: $? = 253 16:38 < mnemoc> moin sepp 16:38 < morfoh> moin sepp 16:38 < sepp> hi * 16:38 < sepp> :) 16:39 < sepp> happy new year :p 16:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: ^ that was the error with 1-gzip ? 16:39 < mnemoc> yes 16:39 < morfoh> sepp: thanks, same for you :) 16:39 < mnemoc> happy new year sepp 16:39 < mnemoc> morfoh: basicly the problem is the lack of a diet-dyn crosscompiler 16:40 < mnemoc> # file ./build/sedu-2.1-stable-x86-pentium2-sedu/usr/bin/diet-dyn 16:40 < mnemoc> ./build/sedu-2.1-stable-x86-pentium2-sedu/usr/bin/diet-dyn: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped 16:40 < mnemoc> that's the only one, and i wont ever be able to run it on my glibc host 16:41 < mnemoc> it doesn't even ldd 16:43 < mnemoc> rxr: the chocolates are amazing :p 16:44 < rxr> mnemoc: ,-) 16:44 < mnemoc> thanks a lot again :D 16:45 < rxr> mnemoc: _you are welcome_ :-) 16:45 < mnemoc> *G* 16:47 < CIA-1> jsaw * r14533 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-icon-theme/gnome-icon-theme.desc: * gnome-icon-theme depends on hicolor-icon-theme (needed esp. for emerging) 16:47 < rxr> I hope your girls enjoy the Tuxs ,-) 16:48 < mnemoc> they are cute :) 16:49 < rxr> morfoh: qvm86 gives me some headaches ... 16:49 < rxr> morfoh: needs some more time to tinker togethert 16:49 < morfoh> rxr: np ... mips kernel failed too 16:50 < rxr> morfoh: btw I'm unsure if this would accelerate non-x86 guests ... 16:50 < morfoh> rxr: I doubt too ... 16:51 < morfoh> rxr: did you succesfully booted a diet embedded target build from trunk ? 16:52 < rxr> oehm 16:52 < rxr> yes 16:52 < rxr> running on the geode router 16:52 < rxr> well router add-on 16:52 < morfoh> hmmm ... do you use udev ? 16:52 < rxr> yes 16:52 < rxr> well 16:53 < rxr> ok 16:53 < rxr> I used an existing kernel and initrd ... 16:53 < morfoh> ic 16:53 < rxr> the embedded initrd will miss some bits since the mkintrd is not yet cross aware ... 16:54 < morfoh> rxr: thx for the info ;) 16:55 < rxr> too late I fear ? 16:56 -!- CIA-1 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [K-lined] 16:56 < morfoh> rxr: nope ... not that late ;) ... don't worry 17:02 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 17:12 < rxr> hm 17:12 < mnemoc> ? 17:12 < rxr> either I'm totally blinded 17:13 < rxr> or gcc leaves out some whole functions in qemu code while preprocessing 17:13 < rxr> and no - there are no #idefs around ... 17:13 * rxr is totally confused how this happens ... 17:14 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@64.237.248.180] has joined #t2 17:15 < rxr> hm - though I still wonder whats wrong with the include I know can imagine why my build goes boom ... 17:21 < rxr> the ammount of patches in the t2 confdir is proportional the the maintenance of the upstream source ... 17:21 < rxr> it is amazing how many patches we will have to qemu in some hours ... 17:23 < karasz> hmmm 17:23 < karasz> am i doin' smth wrong here? 17:23 < karasz> sent to t2@exac... and t2-developers@exa... 17:23 < rxr> t2@t2-project.org 17:24 < rxr> is there a t2*@exactcode.de left somewhere ? 17:24 < karasz> guess not 17:25 < karasz> i fond it in some old mails.. 17:25 < axion> what are the advantages of initrd with a non-modular kernel? 17:25 < rxr> none 17:25 < axion> ok thought so 17:26 < rxr> well - except fall back tools if your rootfs went away ... 17:27 < mnemoc> you only need initrd on a nonmodular kernel if you need to do some trickery to get your root device mounted, example if it's on lvm 17:27 * rxr shot myself in the foot, once again 17:27 < mnemoc> ? 17:28 < rxr> wasted an hour on qemu hackery because me tried to trick qemu's configure ... 17:28 < rxr> but it was smarter than I have been ... 17:28 < mnemoc> ? 17:29 < rxr> you do not want to know the details ... 17:31 < mnemoc> ok :) 17:31 < mnemoc> foot bleeding too much? 17:32 < rxr> well, it is a 1.6GHz Turion with ccache enabled, healing fastly ... 17:32 < rxr> and a coffee might do the rest ... 17:32 < axion> rxr: whats wrong with qemu? 17:33 < rxr> axion: except all important patches, e.g. gcc-4 are not applied upstream? 17:34 < rxr> and that there is an open source kernel accelerator and the author still advertising his own binary? 17:34 < rxr> not many ... 17:34 < rxr> not much more ... 17:34 < rxr> except we have 10+ patches in the qemu dir now ... 17:34 < rxr> oh - and the -initrd option is broken since I know qemu ... 17:34 < rxr> that is for a long time ... 17:34 < axion> hmm. been using it on my lfs system with gcc4 17:35 < rxr> axion: distro binary? 17:35 < rxr> out of the box it does not build with gcc 4 ... 17:35 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.244.123] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:36 < axion> hmm, maybe i built it on gcc3 but i have gcc4 now. is there a way to tell? 17:36 < rxr> you build it with gcc3 then ... 17:37 < mnemoc> axion: am i uploading to you 100mbps box, or to another? i have never passed 14KBps 17:38 < axion> 100mbps 17:39 < axion> it's in US 17:40 < axion> could be why...i just sent to it at my max of 48K 17:42 < karasz> what does [ -f /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf ] mean? 17:42 < mnemoc> if file /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf exist 17:42 < axion> check to see if file exists and is a basic file 17:42 < karasz> hmmm file is there but if returns false :( 17:42 < rxr> axion: btw. do you use an accelerator kernel module for qemu ? 17:43 < mnemoc> so it's not there 17:43 < axion> rxr: yes the closed bin 17:43 < rxr> axion: do you have a number of feeling how much faster that binary is ? 17:43 < rxr> btw. on x86 I assume? not x86-64 ? 17:43 < karasz> [ -f /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf ] 17:44 < karasz> sorry 17:44 < axion> it's still very slow (with XP). i dont notice much of a difference. 17:44 < karasz> root@karasz:~# file /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf 17:44 < karasz> /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf: ASCII English text 17:44 < mnemoc> [ -f /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf ]; echo $? 17:44 < axion> yes x86 17:44 < karasz> [ -f /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf ]; echo $? 17:44 < karasz> 0 17:45 < axion> is it /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf or /etc/samba/smb.conf? 17:45 < axion> i have /etc/samba... 17:45 < karasz> /etc/opt/samba 17:45 < mnemoc> 0 is _true_ 17:45 < karasz> really? 17:45 < mnemoc> yes 17:45 < rxr> karasz: this are return codes ... 17:45 < mnemoc> there is only one way to succed, but many to fail 17:45 < rxr> there 0 is success and otherwise a error code ... 17:45 < karasz> return code 0 i must have thought... 17:46 < karasz> anyway.. 17:46 < karasz> 0 or else [-f ] fails... 17:46 < karasz> [ -f /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf ]; echo $? 17:46 < karasz> 0 17:47 < karasz> damn copy paste 17:47 < karasz> tart) 17:47 < karasz> title "Starting SAMBA server." 17:47 < karasz> if [ -f /etc/opt/samba/smb.conf ]; then 17:47 < karasz> echo "No smb.conf!" 17:47 < karasz> return 1 17:47 < karasz> fi 17:47 < karasz> /opt/samba/sbin/smbd -D || error=$? 17:47 < karasz> /opt/samba/sbin/nmbd -D || error=$? 17:47 < karasz> status 17:47 < karasz> ;; 17:47 < karasz> return 1?? 17:47 < mnemoc> that is wrong 17:47 < mnemoc> if [ ! -f .... 17:47 < karasz> that is on 2.1.... 17:47 < mnemoc> 2.1? 17:47 < karasz> yupie 17:47 < mnemoc> ok 17:47 < karasz> but return 1? 17:48 < mnemoc> exit 1 17:48 < karasz> :) 17:48 < mnemoc> return is for functions 17:50 < mnemoc> what and stupid .init 17:50 < mnemoc> an* 17:52 < rxr> 9869 rene return 1 17:52 < rxr> r9869 | rene | 2005-06-27 16:44:52 +0200 (Mon, 27 Jun 2005) | 3 lines 17:52 < rxr> * fixed samba.init to not quit without error if no config file is 17:52 < rxr> present - untested 17:52 < rxr> ouhm ... 17:53 * mnemoc silence 17:53 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/EmTsM786.html <--- do you like it? 17:55 < rxr> could work 17:55 < rxr> anyone dares to tes ? 17:55 < mnemoc> no sysvinit around 17:55 < rxr> no samba around ... 17:56 < mnemoc> karasz: ? 17:57 < Baldzius> !> usr/lib/libdb_cxx-4.3.la contains build system paths! 17:57 < Baldzius> !> The package should possibly flagged with "LIBTOOL-QUIRK" 17:58 < Baldzius> ^^- added that to package but still get that 17:59 < rxr> jsaw: ? 18:00 < Baldzius> same with totem 18:00 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@64.237.248.180] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:00 < rxr> Baldzius: this should more likely be a warning, not an error ... 18:00 < rxr> (for now) 18:00 < rxr> jsaw might like to elaborate ... ,-) 18:01 < Baldzius> :) 18:01 < axion> is it safe to start a svn build now or should i wait? i want to help test stuff out but dont have a working t2 yet 18:01 < rxr> before jsaw added this libtool sanity check it was safe ... ,-) 18:02 < axion> ah 18:02 < rxr> I still would say most should build 18:02 < axion> libtool problem seems serious 18:02 < rxr> but my last build finished in the morning with svn code of around yesterday ... 18:02 < rxr> axion: well the big problem in gcc's libstdc++ is fixed now 18:02 < rxr> the other stuff is just tiny noise ... 18:03 < mnemoc> before jsaw added this libtool sanity check it was unnoticed 18:03 < rxr> but it only hapens on 64bit user-land architectures with lib64 directories ... 18:03 < rxr> what do you want to build ? 18:03 < rxr> mnemoc: but would still normally just build 18:03 < axion> i wanna build a p4 minimal 18:03 < rxr> this is more a cosmet thing ... 18:03 < rxr> axion: x86 should just build I think 18:03 < rxr> except one or another 3rd party kernel module ... 18:03 < mnemoc> axion: 2.1 or 2.2? 18:03 < rxr> even lib64 would only cause some packages to fail ... 18:04 < axion> 2.2...i need udev 18:04 < mnemoc> i should build flawless 18:04 < mnemoc> it* 18:04 < rxr> mnemoc: have you tested with kernel ? 18:04 < rxr> the last days I did not rebuild with the latest 2.6.15 incarnation ... 18:04 < mnemoc> running? never 18:04 < mnemoc> oh, 2.6.15 18:05 < mnemoc> i did before that 18:05 < karasz> mnemoc, ? 18:05 < karasz> you called? 18:06 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.180] has joined #t2 18:06 < mnemoc> karasz: try replicating this change on your current init script http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/EmTsM786.html 18:07 * rxr should start listening to local mp3s again ... 18:08 < rxr> this low-quality web-streams start to degenerate my sense of hearing 18:08 < karasz> mnemoc, that is a diff chunk 18:08 < karasz> i had samba from Build Target... 18:08 < mnemoc> karasz: yes, but with spaces and for .init 18:08 < axion> rxr: haha, i cant stand mp3's quality on my hifi system 18:09 < rxr> well with my open source created ones they sound very good 18:09 < rxr> but all this windows low-quality junk really hurtys my ears ... 18:09 < axion> i use mpc 18:10 < karasz> mnemoc, i do not understand what do you want from me :( 18:10 < karasz> i made the ! in my init 18:11 < karasz> now it works 18:11 < mnemoc> ok 18:11 < karasz> replaced return 1 with exit 1 also 18:12 < karasz> hmmm bvut i dunno if i shouldn't have replaced return 1 with error=1... 18:12 < karasz> after all status function is called after checkin'... 18:12 < mnemoc> to get the sad face 18:13 < karasz> yup 18:13 < axion> rxr: try mpc...better quality at lower bitrates, and open source. better quality than ogg at the same filesize 18:13 < mnemoc> that's why the if/fi became if/else/fi 18:13 < karasz> yes.. 18:13 < mnemoc> axion: this http://www.musicpd.org/ ? 18:14 < axion> no musepack.net 18:15 < mnemoc> axion: package it :) 18:15 < axion> been using it for about 6 years...i've never been able to tell the difference between the original on my expensive sound system, at smaller size than mp3 18:15 < karasz> got to go now 18:15 < karasz> cu 18:15 < karasz> bye 18:15 < axion> mnemoc: i plan on it :) once i get a working t2 18:16 < CIA-9> amery * r14534 /trunk/package/audio/mpc/mpc.desc: * updated mpc (0.11.1 -> 0.11.2) 18:16 < rxr> axion: I used ogg vorbis since years now - the quality is fine - even on studio monitor headphones ... 18:16 < axion> ogg is good, but tuned for low bitrates. mpc is tuned for transparency 18:17 < rxr> well I did not use ogg @128 ... I usually used an avg of 160+ - not distinguishable from audio cd when my ear was more traineed before I ruined it with 128 toiled mp3s that come from the varous web radios ... 18:19 < axion> hehe. ogg @ 128k abr is much better than mp3 at 128vbr. and mpc @ 128vbr is much better than ogg, and smaller than mp3, though not as small as ogg 18:20 < axion> if its size you care about use ogg, if quality, use mpc....or lossless :) 18:22 < CIA-9> amery * r14535 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.init: * fixed samba.init's smb.conf detection, and changed to produce a sad face - not tested 18:30 * rxr needs a dietlibc console player for the geode router-alike ... 18:30 < axion> does mpd compile with dietlibc? 18:30 < rxr> no idea ... 18:30 < mnemoc> or xmms2 18:30 < rxr> but so far I only have .mp3 and .ogg anyway ... 18:31 < mnemoc> btw, xmms2 needs scons, which needs python 18:31 < axion> it plays many formats...xmms2 isnt near primetime yet 18:34 < axion> rxr: try mpc from r14534 above. very nice cli interface to mpd 18:43 < valentin> re 18:43 < valentin> karasz: here ? 18:43 < valentin> normaly you do not start conf files with #!/bin/bash... 18:44 < mnemoc> i do :p for highlighting 18:44 < mnemoc> well... /bin/sh, not bash 18:45 < rxr> mnemoc: configure you vi clone to highlight .conf as shell ... 18:45 < valentin> mnemoc: ?! 18:45 < rxr> hi valentin 18:45 < rxr> debug-qemu:[qemu-0.8.0]# -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 21.10% (123 hits, 460 misses) 18:45 < valentin> ah - vi highlighting 18:45 < rxr> == 01/05/06 19:44:15 =[9]=> Finished building package qemu. 18:45 < axion> what rxr said 18:45 < rxr> ouhm 18:45 < axion> you got it? yay 18:46 < CIA-9> rene * r14536 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (4 files): * integrated qvm86 patches into qemu 18:46 < rxr> this was long enough 18:46 < rxr> now the kernel build wants to be integrated ... 18:46 < rxr> funny fun I do today ... 18:46 < mnemoc> rxr: do you have the magic line for vimrc? 18:46 < LMJ> good evening valentin & rxr & the chan 18:46 < LMJ> and mnemoc ;) 18:46 < rxr> mnemoc: nope ... /me is a vi avoider ... 18:46 < rxr> qemu# ls *patch* | wc -l 18:46 < rxr> 11 18:47 < rxr> is this evil or what ? 18:47 < rxr> patch.qvm86 qemu-0.7.1-x86_64-enable-kqemu.patch 18:47 < rxr> qemu-0.7.0-gcc4-dot-syms.patch qemu-0.7.2-dyngen-check-stack-clobbers.patch 18:47 < rxr> qemu-0.7.0-gcc4.patch qemu-0.7.2-gcc4-opts.patch 18:47 < rxr> qemu-0.7.0-x86_64-direct-jump.patch qemu-0.8.0-gcc4-hacks.patch 18:47 < rxr> qemu-0.7.0-x86_64-softmmu-asm.patch.disabled x86-64-hotfix.patch 18:47 < rxr> qemu-0.7.1-loader.patch 18:47 < rxr> plus: 18:47 < rxr> [D] X qvm86-20060101.tar.bz2 cvs://:pserver:anonymous@cvs.savannah.nongnu.org:/sources/qvm86 qvm86 -D 2006-01-01 18:47 < mnemoc> yesterday i 'discovered' <( ) on bash does mkfifo and pipe both to the fifo 18:48 < sparc-kly> mnemoc: http://xlinux.ath.cx/regressions/system/regressions.html 18:49 < rxr> mnemoc: hm 18:50 < mnemoc> ls . ls -alF <(echo) 18:50 < mnemoc> lr-x------ 1 amery users 64 2006-01-05 15:51 /dev/fd/63 -> pipe:[79019] 18:51 < rxr> mnemoc: lars suggested we do be a bit sloppy on postlinux 3rd party modules and only emmit a warning if one of those code beats fails, one rectangular or too high moon and such ... 18:51 < mnemoc> i found it interesting, considering echo | while read x; do true; done makes a new 'context' 18:52 < mnemoc> and pass even after failures? 18:52 < rxr> what have i typed there ... beasts fails on rectangular .... 18:52 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - at least on stage 9 end-user build or so ... 18:52 < rxr> with wisible far (red) warning on the screen ... 18:53 < rxr> e.g. often they are unwatned and the people are anoid of deselect rebuild to get the mkinitrd and such ... 18:54 < mnemoc> || true ? 18:54 < rxr> mnemoc: no - something more advcaned ... 18:54 < rxr> e.g. I fear I need to tweak status output logging to pass a bit far red warning out to the display .. 18:54 < rxr> I think IIRC the echo_status stuff does not appear on the screen such deep in the build, no ? 18:54 < rxr> I fear I have to hack it up a bit ... 18:55 < rxr> well I just wanted to propagate the concept, the code will be hacked then if we agree we want it - don't bother about the details ... 18:56 < mnemoc> rxr: we could use a different fd for 'feedback' 18:57 < rxr> Found 2 new/updated files in source tree: 18:57 < rxr> -> Found new/updated file: package/emulators/qemu/patch.qvm86 18:57 < rxr> -> Found new/updated file: package/emulators/qemu/pkg_linux26_post.conf 18:57 < rxr> `- so let's hope the best ... 18:58 < rxr> Baldzius: numactl 0.9 released <- I think we could use this package ... if you want to add s.th. ... ,-) 18:59 < Baldzius> rxr: ok , added to my TODO :) 19:01 < rxr> Baldzius: cool ,-) 19:02 < mnemoc> echo package numactl >> /dev/aldas 19:03 < Baldzius> can't open node: no such file or directory :) 19:04 < mnemoc> :) 19:08 < rxr> mnemoc: beeing sloppy on the 3rd party build errors ok ? 19:13 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. regarding wrapper stuff ... 19:13 < rxr> we should use another light-strace-wrapper (tm) code piece to wrapper these by default anyway 19:13 < rxr> works for static binaries also ... 19:13 < rxr> and so on ... 19:14 < mnemoc> yes, needing dyn env to catch activity is a big handycap 19:15 < mnemoc> rxr: on stage 9, ignore failing module is ok to me 19:17 < rxr> mnemoc: what was vi command fo insert file at cursor ? 19:18 < mnemoc> no idea 19:18 < rxr> :r 19:19 < mnemoc> thanks :) 19:19 < rxr> google was my friend ... 19:21 < rxr> next qemu postlinxu try ... 19:21 < rxr> damn ... 19:21 < rxr> this is burning time like nothing ... 19:25 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:26 < misl> hi folks :) 19:27 < mnemoc> hi rocket 19:29 < rxr> moin misl 19:32 < misl> rxr: any t2 Cebit plans this year? 19:32 < rxr> ah yes, hope we are there 19:32 < mnemoc> rxr: can i decustmainize dietlibc ? 19:33 < rxr> mnemoc: if you are sure you will couse no regressions ... 19:33 < morfoh> re 19:33 < mnemoc> i hope 19:33 < misl> morfoh: hi moped man 19:34 < morfoh> hi misl ... sorry that I missed your birthday ... "Happy Birtday!" rocket master :)))) 19:34 < misl> :)) 19:34 < morfoh> I know ... it's a bit late ... but 19:34 < morfoh> :) 19:34 < misl> no problem 19:35 < mnemoc> bday? 50? 19:35 < misl> I was not here on my birthday anyway 19:35 < misl> mnemoc: that's insulting :) 19:35 * mnemoc hides 19:35 < mnemoc> how many years since birthday? 19:36 < misl> 37 19:36 < mnemoc> not much ,-) 19:36 < misl> :) 19:36 < morfoh> :) 19:36 < rxr> misl: happy birthday from me too ,-) when was the exact date ? 19:36 < misl> rxr: 2 days ago 19:36 < LMJ> Happy Birthday at the same time ;) 19:37 < morfoh> good to know that someone else @ T2 is older than me :p 19:37 < misl> thanx to all :D 19:37 < morfoh> :D 19:37 < LMJ> 37 <- wow ;) 19:37 < morfoh> misl: but you're looking quite younger :p 19:37 < misl> hey, your as old as you feel 19:37 < misl> :) thanks morfoh 19:38 < misl> mnemoc: take an example to morfoh. 19:38 < morfoh> misl: you've done well to stay in a good shape :) 19:38 < misl> mnemoc: see :) 19:38 < morfoh> misl: what ? 19:39 < mnemoc> ehm, /me feels like 70 19:39 < jsaw> re 19:39 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 19:39 < morfoh> wb jsaw 19:39 < misl> mnemoc: me like 84 19:39 < misl> hehe 19:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: thought you are 77 19:39 < misl> hi jsaw 19:39 < jsaw> hi all 19:39 < rxr> what up here with you all ? 19:39 < mnemoc> misl: at least you are successful :) 19:40 < mnemoc> feeling old 19:40 < misl> mnemoc: successful with what? 19:40 < misl> not with building t2 on noisy 19:40 < mnemoc> misl: in life :) 19:41 < misl> mnemoc: not really successful, but not doing bad either :) 19:42 < misl> I am not doing what I like to do, but I am doing what makes money. 19:43 < mnemoc> misl: the oposite is worse imo 19:43 < misl> I'd like to do what we all like to do :) 19:43 < misl> mess around with t2 and make money :) 19:44 < jsaw> mnemoc: is Bertl the main vserver developer? 19:44 < mnemoc> yes 19:44 < mnemoc> and almost the only really coding 19:44 < jsaw> friendly guy 19:45 < mnemoc> he is very nice 19:45 < mnemoc> not like the other .at guy i know :p 19:45 < rxr> so - f*cking qemu patchery ... 19:45 < jsaw> mnemoc: who are you talking about? 19:46 < mnemoc> Bertl 19:46 < mnemoc> very open, smart and capable man 19:47 < mnemoc> jsaw: join the discussion there 19:47 < morfoh> yeah Bertl is a real nice guy 19:47 < jsaw> no, I meant the other guy from .at, I have no idea who you are talking about. 19:49 < misl> jsaw: Yeah, and we can throw rocks at you if know who he is talking about? 19:49 < mnemoc> just another project leader i knew once, who is very close mind(ed?), abandon it from time to time and just arrives to destroy the work of others 19:49 < CIA-9> rene * r14537 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (patch.qvm86 pkg_linux26_post.conf postlinux.conf): 19:49 < CIA-9> * added qemu/postlinux code - should build in theory, fails on 19:49 < CIA-9> x86-64 - I guess some more patchery to address that is needed 19:49 < mnemoc> abando the project i mean 19:49 < rxr> I try to import the still remaiing patchery - /me off to susan for now 19:50 < mnemoc> cu rxr 19:50 < misl> cu rxr 19:50 < morfoh> cu rxr 19:50 < jsaw> bye bye rxr 19:51 < rxr> bus a .59 ... 19:51 < rxr> could match - cu 19:51 < jsaw> misl, mnemoc .oO 19:51 < jsaw> run run run rxr 19:52 < morfoh> jsaw: running doesn't help that much I think, if he has to go to the bus station 25m away from his home :) 19:56 < jsaw> O.O 19:56 < jsaw> ohoh 19:56 < jsaw> fly fly fly rxr! 19:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: any diet news ? 19:58 < mnemoc> i'll rewrite dietlibc.conf 19:58 < jsaw> :) 19:59 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, if you want to offer a dietlibc based router you could also try to build it the "embedded" way ;) 19:59 < mnemoc> i'm not only thinking in a router 19:59 < mnemoc> i want a _real_ machine 20:00 < mnemoc> without fat 20:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: we all want 20:00 < morfoh> but first you need a router :p 20:01 < mnemoc> i'll my get machine or i'll die in the fight 20:01 < mnemoc> get my* 20:02 < morfoh> :) 20:03 < morfoh> .oO( hopefully mnemoc will not die )o :p 20:03 -!- demian [n=Jonathan@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 20:03 < demian> rehi. 20:03 < jsaw> hi demian 20:03 < misl> hi demian 20:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: what problems do you see regarding the dietlibc.conf ? 20:04 < morfoh> wb demian 20:04 < demian> anyone here have implemented a streaming mp3 server ? 20:04 < mnemoc> no crosscompiler 20:04 < misl> mnemoc: What kind of machine do you wanna get? 20:04 < jsaw> demian: ...seems not... 20:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: can you give me some more hints 20:05 < mnemoc> a minimal but pure dietlibc 20:05 < jsaw> demian: for what exactly 20:05 < mnemoc> built native on a glibc host 20:05 < jsaw> demian: home use? 20:06 < morfoh> demian: take a look at "package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.desc" <-- perhaps it streams not just videos 20:06 < demian> jsaw: there is a file server with lots of mp3, i dunt want to share mp3, but allow others in teh enterprise to listen, and then do an application to queue songs that the rest of my partners want to listen. 20:07 < demian> like a radio station inside the enterprise. 20:08 < jsaw> ic 20:08 < morfoh> demian: take look at vlc ... it has sth. like that 20:08 < demian> ok morfoh 20:08 < demian> ohh.. sourceforge has a new look. 20:08 < jsaw> vls 20:09 < morfoh> demian: if you're looking for sth. that "pushes" content on the playlist of "subscribers" see -> the sap feature of vlc 20:10 < morfoh> jsaw: vls is discontinued 20:10 < jsaw> ah, ic 20:10 < morfoh> vls has all+++ than vls 20:10 < morfoh> vlc 20:10 < LMJ> demian : is ampache could be your perfect solution ? :-D www.ampache.org 20:10 < jsaw> what`s about icecast ? 20:11 < morfoh> jsaw: dunno ... icecast. I just examined vlc a little ... because someone needed streaming video 20:11 < jsaw> LMJ: make a package ! 20:12 < LMJ> lol jsaw , it's only PHP files, not a software 20:12 < jsaw> demian: so, available packages: vlc, icecast 20:12 < jsaw> LMJ: ? PHP is software..., so? 20:13 < mnemoc> *G* 20:13 < jsaw> .oO(should look at the page before I look stupid) 20:13 < demian> :) 20:13 < mnemoc> even windows is software, not because php sucks it wont be considered software 20:13 < LMJ> demian : i think it's the thing you need, "download" is unactive by default, people can upload new mp3 if you need, you need Apache+PHP+Mysql it's light, secure, fast, streaming for everyone, they can make their own playlist and save them, etc... perfect with xmms or/and winamp or so 20:13 < mnemoc> bloatware maybe 20:13 < morfoh> LMJ: don't hear about that ... jsaw is just trying to avoid foruncles 20:13 < morfoh> :) 20:14 < LMJ> php is not a programmation language 20:14 < LMJ> hehe morfoh 20:14 < LMJ> php is a bloated language :-D 20:14 < axion> demian: have you seen jinzora or netjuke? 20:14 < LMJ> netjuke is out since a couple of month (years?) now 20:15 < demian> where are u from LMJ ? 20:15 < LMJ> France 20:15 < axion> netjuke is pretty old, yes. jinzora is better 20:15 < demian> ic. 20:15 < LMJ> why ? 20:15 < LMJ> my english sucks like hell ? ;) 20:15 < demian> ok, i have ampache, iceast and vlc in my check list. 20:16 < LMJ> demian , check out jinzora or ampache ;) 20:16 < jsaw> LMJ: en contraire 20:16 < LMJ> LOL jsaw , je ne comprends pas ton français 20:16 < demian> LMJ: s/programmation/programming 20:17 < jsaw> Tu ne me comprends pas... hmmm... 20:17 < demian> je suis demian. 20:17 < LMJ> lol 20:17 < LMJ> googletrans or babelfish ? 20:18 < demian> j'ai a eau of toilette. 20:18 < morfoh> .oO( french hour @ t2 )o 20:18 < demian> francaise is a lot like spanish. 20:18 < LMJ> what is the website to check if there are some other french dude in the t2 house ? 20:18 < LMJ> frappr.com or something 20:19 < axion> http://www.frappr.com/t2 20:19 < jsaw> I lost my french, damn, should refresh it. 20:19 < misl> seems like we can have multiple t2 channels :) English and Spanish already exits. Now we can hava a French one too. May I will start a Dutch one :) 20:19 < demian> i learned a lot when i was in highschool, never practiced it after that. 20:19 < jsaw> misl: :D 20:19 < morfoh> misl: if you wanna be alone :p 20:19 < demian> so i could understand what some ppl says, but not writing by myself :p 20:19 < misl> All dutchies meet me at t2-nl :) 20:19 < LMJ> damned, i'm on the only on 20:20 < mnemoc> misl: come on, we are 27 according to frapper... you want to split us? 20:20 < LMJ> jsaw : need a couple of lesson 20:20 < LMJ> ? 20:20 < jsaw> yep 20:20 < LMJ> hehe, in PM ;) 20:20 < jsaw> PM? 20:20 < misl> mnemoc: Yes, since there are some people here that insulted me :D 20:20 < LMJ> Private Message 20:20 < jsaw> LMJ: lol 20:21 < LMJ> c'est mieux pour parler jsaw ;) 20:21 < misl> hehe, no-one insulted me on t2-nl so far :) 20:21 < jsaw> LMJ: pour parler? 20:21 < LMJ> jsaw : oui, comme cela, on ne va déranger personne 20:22 < LMJ> WTF, i'm the only french around :-/ !! 20:22 < jsaw> LMJ: hehe 20:22 < mnemoc> misl: i said 'how many years since birth' not 'how old'! 20:22 < mnemoc> misl: i'm older than you, with less years 20:22 < jsaw> LMJ: currently yes 20:22 < LMJ> what a shame 20:22 < misl> mnemoc: you said 50!!!!! 20:22 < mnemoc> *G* 20:22 < misl> mnemoc: just kidding 20:22 < LMJ> bunch of lazy french who use debillian or Mandracrap 20:23 < jsaw> rofl 20:23 < misl> mnemoc: I am rather insulted here than being alone on t2-nl 20:23 < mnemoc> misl: :) 20:23 < morfoh> misl: good ... lets go ahead :) 20:23 < misl> morfoh: with insulting me? 20:23 < mnemoc> but the only zoophilic here is morfoh 20:24 < mnemoc> what can we use to insult misl ? 20:24 < misl> hehe, try me 20:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: don't talk about yourself using my name !!!! :p 20:24 < mnemoc> your summer house is ugly 20:24 < demian> if morfoh is zoofilic, u should be careful mnemoc 20:24 < mnemoc> ugly ugly forest, sucks 20:24 < demian> *joke* 20:25 < mnemoc> and that noisy box from you is slow as hell 20:25 < mnemoc> demian: uhm 20:25 < misl> mnemoc: no problem, when get over to Europe I will not let you stay there :D 20:25 < morfoh> demian: yes ... if I'd be that "way" ... piggy mnemoc should be careful 20:25 < morfoh> :p 20:25 < mnemoc> misl: *G* 20:25 < mnemoc> piggy? :\ 20:26 < mnemoc> but you prefer rabits anyway 20:26 < misl> mnemoc: Wasn't you connection lagging? So the slowness is due to your connection :d 20:26 < mnemoc> so i'm saved 20:26 < morfoh> .oO( insulting hour @ t2 )o :p 20:26 < misl> :P 20:26 < mnemoc> :) 20:26 < misl> seems like mnemoc is feeling 20 years yonger again 20:26 < morfoh> :) 20:26 < misl> younger 20:26 < mnemoc> yes, 50 20:27 < misl> mnemoc: continue insulting me till you are 25 again :D 20:27 < LMJ> how old are you guys ? 20:27 < mnemoc> my script is over :\ 20:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: I've never seen a pig which is 50 years old 20:28 < mnemoc> LMJ: years since birth or old? 20:28 < misl> morfoh: wait a few years and look in the mirror :p 20:28 < demian> LMJ: what cares, is that none of us is older than mnemoc 20:28 < LMJ> the official age 20:28 < morfoh> misl: that was a bad move my friend 20:28 < mnemoc> morfoh's ass is like the one of a 50 years pig 20:28 < misl> sorry friend, I couldn't resist 20:28 < LMJ> ROTFL 20:29 < mnemoc> LMJ: did you loose your car for new year 'celebrations'? 20:29 < demian> i am a sexy 22 yrs adolescent. 20:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: you don't know my ass ... and I told you before to not talk about yourself using my name 20:29 < LMJ> no mnemoc 20:29 < LMJ> i haven't saw any fire in fact 20:29 < mnemoc> frigid-LML 20:29 < mnemoc> frigid-LMJ 20:30 < LMJ> LOL 20:30 < misl> LMJ you're not blind are you? 20:30 < LMJ> i'm not 20:30 < mnemoc> just frigid 20:30 < mnemoc> demian: naked pictures to publish? 20:30 < demian> what means 'zweitausendzweihundertdreissig' in german ? 20:30 < demian> mnemoc: sure. 20:31 < misl> 2230 20:31 < mnemoc> i haven't see a sexy 22 yrs adolescent in years 20:31 < morfoh> .oO( now we really see what mnemoc likes )o 20:31 < LMJ> cars burns in France since a couple of decade in "hot" districts, not so much 20:31 < demian> mnemoc: but first u should pass to my paypal website.. 20:31 < morfoh> demian: 2230 20:31 < morfoh> ooops 20:31 < mnemoc> demian: how much per hour? 20:31 < mnemoc> demian: full service? 20:32 < demian> and what is 2230 ? 20:32 < mnemoc> zweitausendzweihundertdreissig 20:32 < misl> demian the number you asked for 20:32 * morfoh wonders about his friend mnemoc 20:32 < demian> a time.. 20:32 < morfoh> demian: perhaps 20:32 < mnemoc> morfoh: wonder what? 20:32 < morfoh> demian: what context 20:33 < demian> are numbers in german written that way, in a single word ? 20:33 -!- rene [n=rene@p213.54.144.52.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 20:33 < rene> hm 20:33 < demian> "also bis dann um zweitausendzweihundertdreissig vorm cinemaxx" 20:33 < misl> wb rene at susan :) 20:33 < rene> wonderful linksys firmware still not propagating my homeip .. 20:33 -!- rene [n=rene@p213.54.144.52.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20:33 < jsaw> demian: ??? 20:33 < mnemoc> demian: 32 = two and thirty, like in latin 20:34 < rxr> so 20:34 < jsaw> GI demian ??? 20:34 < misl> demain: see you at 22:30 in front Cinemaxx 20:34 < demian> GI? 20:34 < misl> freely translated 20:34 < demian> now i c i translated too late.. 20:34 < jsaw> demian: GI sth. like soldier 20:34 < rxr> irc the secret dynip service ... 20:35 < jsaw> demian: only soldiers talk about "zweiundzwanzighundertdreißig" 20:36 < jsaw> I should add "A Zeit" 20:36 < demian> militarized hour. 20:36 < jsaw> maybe 20:36 < LMJ> HO HO HO 20:36 < LMJ> back to work everybody 20:36 < mnemoc> militarized=0 to 2400, and normal... 0-12:0-59 or 0-24:0-59? 20:37 < morfoh> jsaw: guess it's easier to "program" ;) 20:37 < demian> 0:12 mnemoc 20:37 < jsaw> morfoh: really? 20:38 < demian> that if u add 'am' or 'pm' 20:38 < rxr> mnemoc: we are much than on frapper ... 20:38 < rxr> mnemoc: e.g. even lars is not on the map ... 20:38 < rxr> matrin in berlin, ... 20:39 < jsaw> rxr: right, Wir sind Papst! 20:39 < morfoh> jsaw: :D 20:39 < rxr> yeah - exactly ... 20:39 < morfoh> jsaw: yupppiiiiiiiiiii 20:39 < jsaw> lol 20:39 < demian> well, so much lazy talk :p.. going to work now.. 20:39 < demian> bye 20:39 < jsaw> demian: we are working 20:39 < morfoh> jsaw: unfortunately you couldn't adjust the font size :p 20:40 < mnemoc> rxr: but #t2 is just $frappr - $e 20:40 < jsaw> morfoh: should I use banner or so? 20:40 < demian> http://testingsoft.dnsalias.com/~jvargas/pics/Mis%20Fotos/Pocos%20Dias%20Despues%20De%20La%20Boda/ 20:40 < demian> oh what a night. 20:40 -!- demian [n=Jonathan@201.206.44.210] has left #t2 [] 20:43 < Baldzius> poor link? :) 20:43 < Baldzius> can't load any foto 20:44 < jsaw> I can, but slow 20:44 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/t2_/small/ :) 20:44 < sepp> some photos you can load :) 20:44 < LMJ> evening sepp ;) 20:44 < mnemoc> also naked? 20:44 < Baldzius> g* slow :) 20:45 < sepp> naked? 20:45 < Baldzius> i hate my isp , i want 2Mb/s :) 20:45 < mnemoc> j/k 20:45 < mnemoc> sepp: what _small_ means to you? 20:46 * jsaw thought the same 20:46 < sepp> small means not 20 million pixel 20:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: :) 20:46 < LMJ> i love my ISP, got 24Mbits ;) 20:46 < mnemoc> 64kbps here :\ 20:47 < LMJ> Adsl2+ here 20:48 < jsaw> sepp: nice 20:48 < Baldzius> adsl2 rulz :) 20:48 < mnemoc> LMJ: how did you picture 01-small ? 20:48 < sepp> made with packages in t2 :) 20:48 < mnemoc> names, i want names 20:48 < jsaw> what camera? 20:48 < mnemoc> i guess he merged lot of pictires 20:49 < LMJ> mnemoc : how did you ? what do you mean ? 20:49 < LMJ> good point mnemoc ;) 20:49 < sepp> stone age sony dsc-f505 20:49 < mnemoc> LMJ: s/LMJ/sepp/ 20:49 < misl> hey guys, nice pictures, but where are the girls? 20:49 < LMJ> rotfl 20:50 < Baldzius> :) 20:50 < misl> mnemoc: Do you prefer nude boys????? 20:50 < morfoh> misl: alone at home ? ;) 20:50 < mnemoc> misl: if i can choose, girls :) 20:50 < Baldzius> l0l 20:50 < misl> morfoh: nope 20:50 < mnemoc> morfoh: don't you see the freudian side of minto's nick? 20:51 < misl> mnemoc: why do you ask for nude pictures of boys then ? 20:51 < mnemoc> misl: teasing morfoh and demian 20:51 < mnemoc> misl: just for fun 20:51 < misl> mnemoc: Good, you made we wonder :D 20:52 < morfoh> misl: you see how he is ... "just teasing" 20:52 < misl> we = me 20:52 < morfoh> in fact mnemoc likes nude boys 20:52 < morfoh> :p 20:52 < mnemoc> misl: i have everything everything clear, and a non-freudian nick 20:53 < misl> morfoh is holding a mirror again? 20:53 < morfoh> misl: what ? 20:53 < mnemoc> yes, morfoh using the mirror 20:53 < misl> rofl 20:54 * morfoh shuts up 20:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: please don't take revenge with your poor rabit 20:54 < LMJ> LOL 20:55 * morfoh hates mnemoc 20:55 < LMJ> rabbit with big brown tape around 20:55 < LMJ> i saw a picture like this before 20:55 < mnemoc> sepp: how did you merge them that perfectly? 20:55 < mnemoc> LMJ: o_O 20:55 < sepp> mnemoc: hugin 20:55 < mnemoc> hugging whom? 20:56 < sepp> mnemoc: small means that e.g. the 1st one had 60mb in size ... 20:56 < morfoh> mnemoc: just needs the name of the software because his ass is that fat and one of his biggest dreams is to see a photo from his ass 20:56 < sepp> now its only 2.5mb - so its small :) 20:56 < mnemoc> how much memory does 'hugin' need to do that? 20:57 < LMJ> mnemoc rabbit_feel_a_lot_morfoh.jpg or something 20:57 < mnemoc> o.o 20:57 < sepp> with <1gb ram it starts to trash a lot 20:57 < mnemoc> uhm 20:57 < mnemoc> what about pixie? 20:58 < sepp> you mean to build it? 20:58 < mnemoc> and run it 20:59 < sepp> well, to run it depends on the input file - to build it you need something >1gb :/ 20:59 < mnemoc> does pixar really use it? 21:00 < sepp> no, they use prman 21:00 < sepp> and thats not gpl ;) 21:02 < mnemoc> :( 21:02 < sepp> $3,500 21:02 < sepp> lol 21:03 < CIA-9> aldas * r14538 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-python-extras/ (gnome-python-extras.conf gnome-python-extras.desc): * updated gnome-python-extras (2.10.2 -> 2.12.1) 21:04 < morfoh> I guess 1 dollar for every single patent included in prman :p 21:05 < mnemoc> :) 21:09 < sepp> the 360 panorama took nearly 30 minutes to render on my poor notebook 21:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: and perhaps you'll get a nice nude boy photo sample with prman too ... "full services included, provided by our pixar service bitches ..." :p 21:09 < CIA-9> aldas * r14539 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif/ (doc-install.patch libexif.desc set-correct-include-dir.patch): 21:09 < CIA-9> * added libexif/set-correct-include-dir.patch - libtool issue 21:09 < CIA-9> * added forgotten Copyright to doc-install.patch 21:10 < jsaw> mnemoc: do you use bincimap under vserver? 21:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: yes 21:10 < mnemoc> morfoh: i want to make humanoid characters to represent my targets 21:11 < jsaw> mnemoc: and how are you doing auth? 21:11 < mnemoc> qmail-ldap pop3's authenticator 21:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! that's a real task 21:12 < jsaw> mnemoc: ldap? so you also have an ldap-server running? 21:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: I mean ... mixing all the ancient figures :) 21:12 < mnemoc> morfoh: easier than integrating dietlibc _properly_ on t2 buildchain 21:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: of course 21:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: there is world beside ldap? 21:12 < jsaw> o.o 21:12 < mnemoc> :) 21:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: for non-ldap i use vmailgr 21:12 < morfoh> hehe :) 21:13 < jsaw> so you also use pam_ldap ? 21:13 < morfoh> jsaw: but I think, if you want to present to "your" admins ... they would like to have LDAP support ;) 21:14 < jsaw> morfoh: we have LDAP at the institute >( 21:14 < jsaw> eh :) 21:14 < morfoh> jsaw: :) 21:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: qmail-ldap doesn't need {nss,pam}-ldap, but i use them on another vserver which has the samba 21:15 < mnemoc> jsaw: qmail-ldap does auth _binding_ to the ldap, not asking the 'system' 21:15 < jsaw> morfoh: pam_ldap.desc: [M] Juergen "George" Sawinski 21:16 < CIA-9> aldas * r14540 /trunk/package/security/shorewall/ (shorewall.conf shorewall.desc shorewall.init): * updated shorewall (3.0.3 -> 3.0.4) 21:16 < morfoh> jsaw: /me shuts up ;) 21:17 < jsaw> mnemoc is talking chinese to jsaw 21:17 < mnemoc> :) 21:17 * jsaw needs a couple of hundred years more to learn what he would like to know 21:17 < mnemoc> there are services with connect to a pop3 to see if auth is correct 21:18 < mnemoc> qmail-ldap see if he can connected to ldap using the password given by the user to see if the password is correct 21:18 < jsaw> what about kerberos? 21:21 < mnemoc> ehm uhm ehm 21:21 < jsaw> :) 21:21 < morfoh> jsaw: I guess someone has to write a good t2 kerberos howto then ;) 21:22 < jsaw> I think I want to try and learn that... 21:24 < morfoh> jsaw: I just know it in theory ... but I think it shouldn't be that hard to learn. but anyway it's just usefull in bigger networks 21:24 * misl off to bed 21:24 < misl> sleep well all. 21:24 < morfoh> gn8 misl :) 21:24 < jsaw> sleep well misl 21:24 < misl> morfoh: have a nice bday tomorrow ;-) 21:24 < misl> cu all 21:25 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 21:27 < morfoh> jsaw: one major point to consider while deploying kerberos is to assure accurate time within the network (ok, anyway it's a good idea to have the time synced ;) 21:27 -!- demian [n=Jonathan@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 21:27 < morfoh> but I guess that's not the problem within your institute ;) 21:27 < mnemoc> morfoh: clockspeed warranty that 21:28 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/t2_/hugin.jpg <- screenshot of t2 trunk running e17+hugin on my laptop :) 21:28 < CIA-9> aldas * r14541 /trunk/package/database/bdb/ (bdb-conf.in bdb.conf bdb.desc): * updated bdb (4.3.28 -> 4.3.29) 21:28 < jsaw> morfoh: well... 21:28 < jsaw> sepp: nice 21:28 < morfoh> sepp: yep ... nice 21:28 < mnemoc> sepp: oh, you use 1024x768 as poor mnemoc! 21:29 < sepp> mnemoc: only on my laptop :) 21:29 < mnemoc> sepp: ehm 21:30 < CIA-9> aldas * r14542 /trunk/package/database/bdb-java/ (3 files): * updated bdb-java (4.3.28 -> 4.3.29) 21:30 < demian> sepp: what is that program u are running in that screenshot? 21:30 < sepp> demian: package/graphic/hugin/ 21:31 < mnemoc> it's amazing 21:31 < sepp> i made most photos on monday 21:31 < demian> and that window manager ? 21:31 < sepp> e17 21:32 < demian> didnt know enlightenment progresses so much.. 21:32 < morfoh> sepp: how stable is e17 running on your notebook ? 21:32 < demian> s/ses/sed 21:33 < sepp> morfoh: quite good as, only the app bar in the center bottom crashes sometimes if yu add things 21:33 < sepp> but the e17 file manager is crap 21:33 < demian> last time i tried to build e17 and imlib2, the wm was really unestable.. that was a yr ago or so.. 21:34 < mnemoc> can't be worse than xfce's 21:35 < sepp> and even with a high level of eye candy shit its damn fast 21:35 < sepp> i mean compared to kde or gnome 21:35 < mnemoc> xffm is a pain to use 21:36 < sepp> the e windowmanager never crashed in 3 or 4 weeks 21:36 < LMJ> xffm sucks yes 21:36 < morfoh> sepp: ack ... I had e17 on the notebook, but after a short journey I went back to flux 21:37 < mnemoc> LMJ: thunar is better but still pre-sub-alpha 21:38 < demian> i wonder why e17 has being so unestable for so much time. 21:38 < LMJ> i don't use the filemanager included with xfce, i can only use 2 panel filemanager, i found one pretty nice for X : emelFM2 21:39 < demian> what i really like from e, it's Eterm. 21:39 < mnemoc> lack of developers? 21:39 < LMJ> i send the emelfm2.desc to the mailinglist btw 21:39 < demian> maybe. 21:40 < sparc-kly> 677 builds total, 669 completed fine, 8 with errors. 21:40 < sparc-kly> :) 21:40 < rxr> did I mention my work for qemu acceleration does not really pay off because this damn of a assembly hackery is not x86-64 aware ? 21:41 < mnemoc> rxr: nope, you forgot to say that 21:41 < LMJ> lol 21:43 < demian> is monodevelop included in t2 ? 21:43 < rxr> well I think I try my best some time to hack it up ... 21:43 < morfoh> rxr: we all know that you already did :) 21:44 < mnemoc> demian: yes 21:44 < demian> mnemoc: someone tried it, i mean, running and developing on it? my build crashes when creating gtk projects. 21:47 < mnemoc> demian: no idea 21:47 < CIA-9> aldas * r14543 /trunk/package/java/jboss-as/ (jboss-as.conf jboss-as.desc jboss-as.init postsysfiles.in): * added "mkdir" hack in jboss-as.conf to prevent package failure 21:56 < jsaw> how does one edit menus in e17 ? 21:57 < mnemoc> $person is telling me kde menu editing doesn't work on 2.1.1 :( 21:57 < demian> i used to do it in directory .enlightenment/*.menu or sth like that.. dunno in e17 if it's the same.. 21:57 < mnemoc> .oO( i have to make the announce for it )o 21:57 < sepp> http://www1.get-e.org/E17_User_Guide/English/_pages/3.7.html 21:58 < owl> hi 21:58 < mnemoc> hi owlinette 21:58 < sepp> hi owl 21:59 < owl> hi mnemoc , sepp :) 21:59 < demian> miss owl. 21:59 < morfoh> hi owl 21:59 < owl> hi demian , morfoh *g* 22:02 < rxr> cu 22:02 < owl> bye rxr 22:04 * demian was unable to mount the second t2 iso as a loop device when installing it.. 22:05 < jsaw> aaaahhhhh 22:05 < jsaw> xrdb -merge .Xresources 22:05 < jsaw> sh: /user/t2/trunk/build/default-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.native/wrapper/cpp: Permission denied 22:05 < mnemoc> missing +x ? 22:06 < jsaw> ? 22:06 < mnemoc> ehm, why xrdb calling _that_ cpp? 22:07 < CIA-9> aldas * r14544 /trunk/package/network/bacula/ (7 files): * updated bacula (1.37.40 -> 1.38.3) 22:08 < sepp> jsaw: if you want to add something to the "ibar" in e17 you just drag and drop the icon from the left upper corner to the bar 22:11 < jsaw> mnemoc: emerge... hardcoding CPP 22:13 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD6DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 22:13 < nzg> moin 22:13 < jsaw> hi nzg 22:13 < nzg> hi jsaw 22:13 < morfoh> hi nzg 22:14 < nzg> moin morfoh 22:14 < mnemoc> moin nzg 22:14 < nzg> moin mnemoc 22:14 < demian> hi nzg 22:14 < nzg> i just returned from booting into my freshly built desktop-target 22:15 < morfoh> nzg: another good reason to say hello again :) 22:15 < nzg> yep, indeed 22:15 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14545 /trunk/package/xorg/xrdb/xrdb.conf: * use "cpp" only, not a path taken from $CPP 22:15 < jsaw> mnemoc: fixed... 22:16 < nzg> install from cd did not work (it expected unversioned .tar.bz2 packages instead of versioned .gem (as configured)) 22:17 < nzg> then i fell over the driver for ide-disks being a module (havn't used an initrd for a while) 22:18 < jsaw> brb 22:18 < nzg> and the nvidia-driver for xorg seems to not be working 22:19 < mnemoc> nzg: what card? 22:19 < nzg> mnemoc: GF4TI 4600 22:19 < sepp> binary only driver? 22:20 < nzg> sepp: yes... sometimes i need 3d for entertainment 22:20 < sepp> they disabled support for old cards 22:20 < sepp> but i dont remember the numbers 22:21 < nzg> it works here with the 8*** driver 22:21 < mnemoc> until gforce2 22:21 < nzg> it libglx.so.$nvidia-version needs to renamed to libglx.so 22:21 < nzg> i figured that out 22:22 < mnemoc> xcfgt2 does that iirc 22:22 < nzg> aah 22:22 < nzg> mnemoc: i take a look at that 22:23 < Baldzius> me ln'ed 22:26 < mnemoc> doens't xorg already contain one? 22:29 < mnemoc> in that case i think we should install it as libglx.so.xorg-$ver, and play with symlinks 22:29 < mnemoc> xorg, nvidia, nvidia-legacy, ... 22:29 < nzg> mnemoc: its currently done this way i think 22:29 < mnemoc> ah, good :) 22:29 < nzg> at least the nvidia libglx is called libglx.so.$nvidia-version 22:29 < mnemoc> do we have nvidia-legacy on trunk? 22:30 < sepp> no 22:30 < mnemoc> on 2.1 i wont update to 8xxx series, but on trunk... 22:32 < sepp> i could try to find a really old nvidia on my attic to test that 22:33 < sepp> i think i have a tnt or tnt2 there 22:33 < mnemoc> i have a tnt2 on home's computer 22:33 < mnemoc> but, i think we must have both nvidia packages built and installed 22:34 < mnemoc> sepp: do you clone them? :) 22:34 < sepp> huuh? nvidia cards? 22:35 < demian> i also have tnt and tnt2... tv channels. 22:36 < sepp> i just have a bunch of nvidia cards ... 22:36 < mnemoc> sepp: why do i need more than a tnt2? 22:36 < sepp> tnt, gforce2, 4, quadro ... 22:37 < sepp> uhm fir fast 3d :/ 22:37 < sepp> for* 22:37 * demian has never had an nvidia card.. maybe never needed to play graphics-complex games. 22:38 < mnemoc> sepp: i forgot when was the last time i saw something 3D on my box 22:39 * nzg admits playing FPS games 22:39 < demian> that remembers me to download armagetron.. 22:40 < sepp> well, try wings or blender on a non hw opengl card 22:40 * mnemoc forgot to install freeciv on his last reinstallation 2 months ago 22:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: is freeciv network aware ? 22:41 < mnemoc> yes 22:41 < morfoh> cool 22:41 < morfoh> :) 22:42 < sepp> or nexuiz <- it really needs fast 3d ... 22:45 * mnemoc googling 22:45 < mnemoc> nice 22:47 < mnemoc> bookmarked to 'linux advocate/gammers' 22:47 < nzg> sepp: the demo-video looks nice 22:48 < sepp> there is a t2 package :) 22:49 < mnemoc> oh 22:49 < mnemoc> where? :( 22:49 < sepp> package/games/nexuiz 22:50 < mnemoc> typo :\ 22:50 < mnemoc> bookmark moved to 't2 advocate/gammers' 22:50 < sepp> hehehe 22:52 < demian> the command line: svn co http://svn.exactcode.de:81/t2/trunk t2-trunk 22:53 < demian> is failing. mentioned in http://www.t2-project.org/download.html 22:55 < mnemoc> true 22:55 < mnemoc> try https if http fails to you 22:56 < sepp> good night * 22:56 < morfoh> night sepp 22:56 < demian> nah, it works using port 80 and http. 22:56 < demian> gn8 sepp 22:56 < mnemoc> some transparent proxies fail with svn 22:56 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp 22:56 < sepp> :) - night * 22:59 < demian> armagetron rulez 23:02 < mnemoc> a tron clone... what is tron? :( 23:03 < mnemoc> demian: not yet packaged, you send the patch right? 23:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: you don't know tron ? 23:04 < mnemoc> :( 23:04 < mnemoc> i haven't played much 23:05 < morfoh> me neither .... but tron ? 23:05 < mnemoc> i got my first x86 at 1985, and i new the first game on 1992 23:05 < morfoh> mnemoc: guess you were a quite serios child :p 23:06 < morfoh> yeah ... but no tron ? .... damn :p 23:06 < mnemoc> living in the courtry, and not too friendly.. closer house was at 5km 23:07 < mnemoc> well... it was the closer house _and_ the closer town at the same time 23:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: a real natural boy :) 23:07 < mnemoc> yeah, plugged on a 8088 learning asm :\ 23:08 < mnemoc> what a freak 23:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep :p 23:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: guess you poor boy had not that much friends outta there :) 23:09 < mnemoc> at least old ms-dos included a compiler, i wouldn't be much fun using just wordstar 23:09 < mnemoc> ah, and gw-basic 23:09 < mnemoc> i did some coold 3d graphics on that :) 23:09 < morfoh> yeah ... that was great! did you had the original IBM machine ? 23:10 < mnemoc> multitech 23:10 < mnemoc> it became 'acer' afaik 23:10 < morfoh> dunno 23:10 < mnemoc> well... something from malasya 23:10 < mnemoc> time to ride home.... back in 45m 23:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: cu ... take care with the package ;) 23:11 < mnemoc> ehm.... forgot that... ehm 23:11 < mnemoc> out 23:11 < mnemoc> i'll take the tuxes, chocolate and the book... and hide the hardware 23:12 < morfoh> :) 23:12 < mnemoc> cu :) 23:12 < mnemoc> and thanks you too for the package 23:12 < morfoh> .oO( hopefully the chocolate will arrive savely )o 23:12 < mnemoc> yeah... and it is amazing 23:12 < mnemoc> ok, bye 23:13 < demian> bye mnemoc 23:16 < demian> how can i install t2 without using CD's ? 23:16 < demian> i would like to do it mounting isos via loopback devices, or by network, not NFS. is it possible ? 23:18 < morfoh> demian: perhaps use a small livecd which can be loaded into ram and install the packages on disk and chroot into it to do the final setupp 23:18 < LMJ> have you compiled your t2 demian ? 23:18 < demian> nop. 23:18 < LMJ> what t2 you wanna install ? 23:18 < morfoh> demian: you could try http://www.insert.cd 23:19 < demian> im just starting LMJ.. 23:19 < demian> umm. wil do it now. 23:19 < demian> is this like rock right? let's rock then.. 23:19 < morfoh> demian: yes ... I guess there are still some rock similar things ;) 23:19 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.180] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:19 < demian> misc/confdialog/yesno.c:73: error: âTRUEâ undeclared (first use in this function) 23:19 < demian> misc/confdialog/yesno.c:116: error: âKEY_LEFTâ undeclared (first use in this function) 23:20 < demian> misc/confdialog/yesno.c:117: error: âKEY_RIGHTâ undeclared (first use in this function) 23:20 < demian> mv: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre «src/confdialog.bin.29633»: No existe el fichero o el directorio 23:20 < demian> T2 2.2.0-alpha configuration ... 23:20 < demian> next step download right ? 23:20 < demian> Building src/config_helper.so. 23:20 < demian> unknown returncode: 127 23:20 < demian> ? 23:20 * demian pissed off.. 23:21 < demian> i just did a svn co from t2-trunk at exactcode 23:21 < LMJ> humm 23:21 < LMJ> why not stable ? 23:21 < morfoh> demian: I guess you should start with 2.1 ... dunno what happening on trunk atm 23:22 < LMJ> demian loves risks 23:22 < demian> umm. i started running ./scripts/Config as rock's.. and HDW Linux :) 23:22 < demian> LMJ: u got the point. 23:22 < morfoh> LMJ: most people do ... but one should play risky games in a save environment :p 23:23 < demian> T2 2.2.0-alpha configuration ... 23:23 < demian> + ./scripts/Config -cfg default -cycle 23:23 < demian> unknown returncode: 127 23:23 < demian> + exit 0 23:23 < LMJ> LOL 23:23 < demian> scripts/Config calls itself. umm.. 23:23 < demian> aniother bash process, so i cannot debug it.. 23:24 < LMJ> LOL i found another crazy software on freshmeat 23:24 < demian> are there verbose execution flags in ./scripts/*? so i could see more output ? 23:25 < LMJ> "Demain's head crash simulation against his desk software avec t2 trunk screwed install" : http://impact.sourceforge.net/ 23:25 < LMJ> LMAO 23:25 < demian> '\'' SDECFG_EXPERT '\''[ ] Show expert-only and experimental options'\'' 23:25 < demian> ./scripts/Config: line 198: ./src/confdialog.bin: No existe el fichero o el directorio' 23:25 < demian> + bprof main start 23:26 < demian> is this still using clifford's rock-dialog stuff ? 23:27 < demian> ++ : 23:27 < LMJ> don't know here 23:27 < demian> ++ expert_end 23:27 < demian> ++ expert=-1 23:27 < demian> ++ . src/default/package-postconfig.in 23:27 < demian> should i do sth else to compile that configdialog.bin file ? 23:29 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD6DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:30 < demian> i see no BUILD documentation.. is it somewhere ? 23:32 < LMJ> ;) 23:32 < LMJ> what do you want to do ? 23:33 < demian> what's usual.. configure my build, download packages, and start building stages. 23:33 < LMJ> ok 23:33 < LMJ> check the doc on t2-project.org 23:33 < LMJ> 4/5 pages talk about this 23:33 < LMJ> you will find main informations 23:34 < LMJ> and the essential steps 23:36 < demian> ive just read them :) 23:36 < demian> seems what i thought was ok... dunno why ./scripts/Config is not working.. 23:36 < demian> it is supposed to build dialogs isn't it, why does not build configdialog.bin ? 23:37 < demian> i will try stable version.. 23:37 < demian> LMJ: tell me one URL to get sources from svn. a "stable" version. 23:38 < LMJ> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1/ 23:38 < LMJ> ;) 23:38 < demian> thanks 23:40 < LMJ> welcome 23:41 < demian> last time mnemoc told me i needed to get external sources. do i really need them at this moment ? 23:42 < LMJ> i don't think so 23:42 < LMJ> what is your level with SDE ? 23:43 < demian> with t2? none. 23:43 < LMJ> you've got one with Rocklinux ? 23:44 < demian> ah sure, i did some stuff for rock a long time ago.. and created with frank zilkerbach hdw linux.. why ? 23:46 < LMJ> to know your level 23:47 < LMJ> so you know you have to setup a config, launch a download for all sources, compile them, compile a bootcd and make a bootable cd with the both target ? 23:47 < demian> i dunt have to compile a bootcd unless i want to create a binary install disk.. 23:49 < LMJ> yes 23:50 < demian> have u used rock before ? 23:50 < LMJ> if not, you can chroot inside your target dir who contain all your fresh t2, launch stone and finish the install 23:50 < LMJ> yes, i used it 23:50 < LMJ> never make my own rocklinux 23:52 < demian> umm. mom. installing ncurses 23:57 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF04A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 23:57 < nzg> remoin 23:58 < demian> wb nzg 23:58 < nzg> so, nvidia-stuff works 23:59 < nzg> now xorg says it needs the font "fixed" to work --- Log closed Fri Jan 06 00:00:39 2006