--- Log opened Sat Dec 31 00:00:17 2005 00:03 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.15.89] has joined #t2 00:07 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.15.89] has quit [Client Quit] 00:10 < CIA-2> amery * r14320 /trunk/ (misc/tail/install_desktop.in scripts/functions.in): * reworked register_{wm,xdm,application} and moved to misc/tail/install_desktop.in 00:11 * mnemoc moving home 00:15 < rxr> bah bios crap 00:15 < rxr> nothing really works 00:17 < rxr> as usual with pie sea crap 00:23 < rxr> pee sea even 00:27 < jsaw> hmmm 00:28 < jsaw> (cross) 1-dietlibc has bin-i686, dietlibc.conf expects bin-i386 00:28 < rxr> 2oh 00:29 < rxr> i fix 00:30 < jsaw> :)))) 00:30 < valentin> re 00:32 < CIA-2> rene * r14321 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 00:32 < CIA-2> * fixed typo in dietlibc.conf, chain uname2arch | arch2uname to filter 00:32 < CIA-2> details away that are uninteresting (i386 instead of i686) 00:32 < CIA-2> * added s/sh.$/sh/ to the generic uname2arch helper 00:35 < rxr> hi valentin 00:35 < rxr> jsaw: does this fix the issue ? 00:36 < jsaw> wait a sec, testing... 00:36 < jsaw> first thing I can say, there's bin-i386 now 00:38 < jsaw> rxr: btw, why is sysenter disabled by default? 00:39 < jsaw> oh 00:39 < jsaw> ic 00:39 < jsaw> passed as option... 00:39 < rxr> this is hisotirc rock code 00:40 < rxr> it would be ok with me to make this dependant on the actual target cpu optimization selected 00:40 < jsaw> making note 00:41 < jsaw> == 12/31/05 00:41:14 =[1]=> Finished building package dietlibc. 00:44 < rxr> nice 00:45 < rxr> flashing a bios in a usb-cd-rom boot onlz box is no fun 00:45 < rxr> and instable usb-cd-rom boot is the reason I actually want to flash it 00:45 < rxr> shame that the crap hardware vendors do not provide sophisticated inside linux flashing 00:45 < rxr> have not yet managed to boot a DOS for flashing via usb-cd-rom 00:46 < rxr> la la la - yuck - jadda jadda 00:46 < rxr> n8 all - cu 00:51 < jsaw> gnight rxr 00:51 < jsaw> *gah* 00:53 < valentin> me in bed now, too 00:53 < jsaw> *cry* 00:53 < jsaw> gn8 valentin 00:54 < valentin> why ? 00:54 < valentin> feeling lonely ? 00:55 < jsaw> 1-perl: Configure: line 1019: /lib64: No such file or directory 00:55 < jsaw> cross building... 00:59 < mnemoc> i have seen that 00:59 < jsaw> and, any idea? 01:00 < mnemoc> 58:libpth="/usr/local/${libdir##*/} /${libdir##*/} /usr/${libdir##*/}" 01:00 < mnemoc> 59:confopt="-des -Dcc=gcc -Darchname=$arch_target -Dprefix=/$prefix \ 01:00 < mnemoc> 60: -Dlibpth='$libpth' \ 01:00 < mnemoc> this cause it 01:00 < mnemoc> no idea why that quoting doesn't work properly 01:00 < mnemoc> on some machines 01:01 < jsaw> bash... 01:04 * jsaw wants a bootstrap.sh 01:04 < mnemoc> stage -1 01:04 < mnemoc> ? 01:04 < jsaw> yep, build a "clean" t2 host environment 01:06 < jsaw> ok, \"$libpth\" instead of '$libpth' works 01:06 < jsaw> still it fails... 01:06 < jsaw> libperl.a(pp.o)(.text+0x260b): In function `Perl_pp_pow': 01:06 < jsaw> : undefined reference to `pow' 01:06 < mnemoc> i have tried lot of different convinations :) 01:07 < mnemoc> i think we will have to patch libpth in 01:07 < jsaw> so, \" will fail on another machine? 01:07 < mnemoc> Configure doesn't see the the values properly 01:10 < mnemoc> stupid Configure script 01:10 < jsaw> hmmm 01:10 < mnemoc> what i haven't tried is to 'pre-escape' spaces 01:11 < jsaw> if '$libpth' works here, and \"$libpth\" there, it's a bash thing 01:13 < mnemoc> wwhat about injecting libpth using sed? 01:15 < jsaw> what about using "-Alibpth" ...? 01:16 < jsaw> -A : manipulate symbol after the platform specific hints have been applied: 01:16 < jsaw> -A symbol=value append " "value to symbol 01:16 < mnemoc> sounds promising 01:16 < jsaw> tryink 01:20 < mnemoc> 57:[[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && var_append patchfiles ' ' "$confdir/lib64.diff" <--- it could go here too 01:21 < jsaw> besides the missing -lm, the "-A" thing seems to work 01:22 < mnemoc> commit and i try here 01:22 < mnemoc> today is the 'break the trunk' day anyway ,-) 01:22 < jsaw> hehe 01:24 < CIA-2> jsaw * r14322 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: 01:24 < CIA-2> * add -lm for miniperl creation (seems to be needed on some cross builds) 01:24 < CIA-2> * use -Alibpth=... as passing -Dlibpth='$libpth' fails on some systems 01:24 < jsaw> hrrm 01:25 < mnemoc> let see... 01:25 < jsaw> the -lm is still not passed 01:25 < mnemoc> uhm 01:26 < jsaw> another try... 01:26 * mnemoc going to fetch money... 01:26 < mnemoc> brb 01:26 < jsaw> gbs 01:40 < mnemoc> re :) 01:40 < jsaw> wb 01:41 < mnemoc> thx 01:41 < jsaw> how did yo rob? 01:41 < jsaw> s/how/who/ 01:41 < mnemoc> employer :) 01:41 < jsaw> good 01:42 < mnemoc> but i'm not doctor ,-) 01:43 < mnemoc> actually i'm not even a bachellor 01:45 < jsaw> wtf cares ? 01:47 < mnemoc> $.$ 01:47 < CIA-2> amery * r14323 /trunk/package/base/bcron/ (00-updates.cron 10-checksys.cron bcron.conf): * removed .cron files from bcron, and set to install .cron files from cron package 01:47 < jsaw> compiling 1-perl for the 1001s time... 01:47 < jsaw> rev 14323 ??? 01:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: why that? 01:48 < mnemoc> they where clones 01:48 < jsaw> ah, got it 01:48 < mnemoc> and current .cron auto-installer can be used with files from non $confdir 01:48 < mnemoc> were* 01:49 < mnemoc> next step, automatice .init install 01:49 < mnemoc> do you know why files are rock-registry are foo and not foo.desktop ? 01:50 < mnemoc> files at rock-registry* 01:53 < jsaw> nope 01:54 < jsaw> thinko... 01:59 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:00 < jsaw> ok, Configure is stupid 02:01 < jsaw> <- about to give up on 1-perl 02:02 < mnemoc> :) 02:02 < mnemoc> sed? 02:02 < jsaw> Makefile.micro uses "LIBS=-lm" 02:02 < jsaw> but the created "Makefile" uses "libs" 02:02 < jsaw> which is empty 02:02 < jsaw> perl 02:03 < jsaw> useful, but a nightmare 02:03 < jsaw> compiling 1-perl for the 1001s time... +10 02:09 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD1EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:26 < jsaw> damn it 02:34 < mnemoc> :( 02:39 < CIA-2> jsaw * r14324 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: * -lm was not passed correctly in stage 1 (cf. r14322) 02:39 < jsaw> == 12/31/05 02:34:54 =[1]=> Finished building package perl. 02:40 * jsaw in need for sleep 02:40 < jsaw> cu, mnemoc 02:41 < mnemoc> cu jsaw :) 02:48 < CIA-2> amery * r14325 /trunk/misc/tail/install_init.in: * improved sysvinit .init installation by auto-installing $confdir/*.init 02:52 < CIA-2> amery * r14326 /trunk/package/xorg/ (xfs/xfs.conf xorg-server/xorg-server.conf): * removed redundant xorg/*/*.init installations 02:53 < CIA-2> amery * r14327 /trunk/package/x86/ (acpid/acpid.conf microcode_ctl/microcode_ctl.conf): * removed redundant x86/*/*.init installations 02:56 < CIA-2> amery * r14328 /trunk/package/archiver/partimage/partimage.conf: * removed redundant archiver/*/*.init installations 02:56 < CIA-2> amery * r14329 /trunk/package/audio/ (alsa-utils/alsa-utils.conf mpd/mpd.conf nas/nas.conf): * removed redundant audio/*/*/*.init installations 03:05 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEC948.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:16 < CIA-2> amery * r14330 /trunk/package/base/ (17 files in 17 dirs): * removed redundant base/*/*/*.init installations 03:18 < CIA-2> amery * r14331 /trunk/package/contrib/lcdproc/lcdproc.conf: * removed redundant contrib/*/*/*.init installations 03:26 < CIA-2> amery * r14332 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * removed redundant .init installation from postgresql and dictdionary 03:31 < CIA-2> amery * r14333 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * removed redundant filesystem/*/*/*.init installation 03:37 < CIA-2> amery * r14334 /trunk/package/mail/ (7 files in 7 dirs): * removed redundant mail/*/*/*.init installations 03:43 < CIA-2> amery * r14335 /trunk/package/multimedia/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * removed redundant multimedia/*/*/*.init installations 03:49 < CIA-2> amery * r14336 /trunk/package/security/ (9 files in 9 dirs): * removed redundant security/*/*/*.init installations 03:51 < CIA-2> amery * r14337 /trunk/package/printing/ (cups/cups.conf lprng/lprng.conf): * removed redundant printing/*/*.init installations 03:53 < CIA-2> amery * r14338 /trunk/package/powerpc/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * removed redundant powerpc/*/*.init installations 03:54 < CIA-2> amery * r14339 /trunk/package/ (java/jboss-as/jboss-as.conf www/webcdwriter/webcdwriter.conf): * removed redundant .init installations for webcdwriter and jboss-as 04:02 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.253.163] has joined #t2 04:12 < CIA-2> amery * r14340 /trunk/package/network/ (32 files in 31 dirs): * removed redundant network/*/*.init installations 04:21 < CIA-2> amery * r14341 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/parse-config: * changed sysvinit's install_init to react to '#Install when:' as conditions to install, if one fails the file is not installed. (needed by mysql's auto-installation) 04:22 < CIA-2> amery * r14342 /trunk/package/database/mysql/ (mysql.conf mysql.init): * removed redundant installation of mysql.init, and marked file to only install if the build is not clientonly 04:22 < mnemoc> uff... done 04:22 < mnemoc> time to sleep 04:22 < mnemoc> happy broken trunk! 04:23 * mnemoc hides 04:23 < mnemoc> gn8 ,-) 07:09 -!- CIA-2 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 07:12 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 08:28 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 08:43 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 08:44 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:58 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 09:05 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:43 < rxr> re 09:44 < rxr> gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 20051229 (prerelease) 09:44 < rxr> so - let's see 09:47 < mipe> there was many updates from svn up, no libdir problem fix? 09:47 < mipe> oh and hi all 09:48 * rxr just arrived as well 09:48 < rxr> mnemoc has dome more last minute feature set changes on trunk 09:48 < rxr> like installing .init files automatically ... 09:48 < rxr> I fear more regressions then fixes ... 09:50 < rxr> 01:22 < mnemoc> today is the 'break the trunk' day anyway ,-) 09:50 < mipe> heh 09:52 < rxr> exactly ... 09:52 * rxr breakfast and throwing my brother out of the bed ... 10:08 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [] 10:11 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 10:28 < mipe> wow,perl fails on stage 1 10:40 < rxr> ouhm 10:44 < rxr> jsaw tweaked erl last night 10:46 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.245.228] has joined #t2 10:46 [Users #t2] 10:46 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ jsaw] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 10:46 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly ] [ VX ] 10:46 [ axion ] [ demian ] [ mipe] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly_] [ zod ] 10:46 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 10:50 < Baldzius> good morning :) 10:51 < mipe> hmm, that change shouldn't have effect on this 10:53 < mipe> good morning Baldzius 10:54 < Baldzius> hi mipe, rxr 11:02 < mipe> well actually it was, it's just missing some libs to link with 11:06 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.253.163] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:07 < CIA-9> mika * r14343 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: * pass -lcrypt and -ldl for stage 1 perl 12:03 < valentin> moin 12:04 < mipe> hi valentin 12:05 < valentin> hi mipe 12:17 < rxr> re 12:26 -!- VEXation [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 12:27 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:41 * VEXation is back (gone 00:15:08) 12:47 < rxr> hi VEXation 12:47 < VEXation> hello, rxr 12:47 -!- VEXation is now known as Stelz 12:47 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 12:48 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 12:53 [Users #t2] 12:53 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ jsaw] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 12:53 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_] [ zod ] 12:53 [ axion ] [ demian ] [ mipe] [ owl ] [ Stelz ] 12:53 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 12:58 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF8C67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 13:01 < rxr> hi mtr_ 13:02 * Stelz is away: x 13:12 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF8AF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:22 < valentin> rxr: btw, linux still fails 13:22 < valentin> still the same error: FATAL: Could not open /tmp/tmp.jQtYCW3577/lib/modules/2.6.15-rc5-mm3-dist/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory 13:22 < valentin> yes, i am at HEAD and i reran ./scripts/Config, too 13:37 < rxr> aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 13:38 < rxr> 2 hours of usb cd-rom nerve breaking 13:38 < rxr> and 2 more with booting does with linux hacks from the network 13:38 < rxr> to find out the flashrom tool they sent me does not support my device 13:38 < rxr> (what the fuck?) 13:38 < rxr> to find out that amd has a flash tool for the geode to flash from linux ... 13:38 < rxr> valentin: hm 13:40 < rxr> in fact they do not even have a flashrom for the lx for dos on their homepage ... 13:40 < rxr> just linux ... 13:41 < rxr> how the world finally changes ... 13:42 < rxr> aaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 13:43 < mipe> valentin: try http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/sysfiles.patch 13:44 < mipe> for base/sysfiles/ 13:44 < mnemoc> rehi 13:45 < mipe> altought: i havent got that error for while(no patch applied for sysfiles/mkinitrd) 13:45 < mnemoc> mipe: mkinitrd is no longer on sysfiles 13:46 < valentin> mipe: is it in trunk already ? 13:46 < mnemoc> valentin: svn st to see if you have any '?' file around 13:46 < mnemoc> valentin: mkinitrd package 13:46 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEDAB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:46 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 13:47 < mipe> valentin: nope, mkinitrd has changed location, so it needs to be applied to mkinitrd package. 13:47 < mipe> but as i sayed, i havent got that error for while, in fact since the location change 13:47 < mnemoc> :) 13:47 < valentin> hm 13:48 < valentin> what other effects are there besides kernel not building ? 13:48 < rxr> ouhm 13:48 < rxr> and the shit fucking more annoing linux binary wants a /dev/gx_util I do not have in my kernel 13:48 < rxr> wonderful world 13:48 < rxr> did I mention I start to become very mad 13:48 < valentin> btw: i get shared file errors for the type1 font packages, but i think this will be trivial 13:49 < mipe> but looks like from mkinitd package, it does not create the /tmp//$moddir directory 13:49 < mnemoc> valentin: FCCACHE=true to makeinstopt should do it 13:49 < mipe> theres also shared file issues with perl and irssi 13:49 < mnemoc> that's not my fault 13:49 < mipe> but dont know how to handle it probly, irssi appends to perllocal.pod file and creates shared file issue 13:49 < valentin> mnemoc: thanx, if the moddir is the only problem i will wait till the rest of my build is finished 13:50 < mnemoc> mipe: see which command is writting on that file 13:50 < mipe> but i guess we should let it to append, since i think it appends some settings info there 13:50 < mnemoc> valentin: what are you building? 13:50 < mnemoc> mipe: appends are bad 13:50 < mipe> but have to wait for while, i started a rebuild with libtool 1.5.23a 13:51 < mnemoc> mipe: i guess downdating to 1.5.20 is safer 13:51 < mipe> mnemoc:ok, i'll look into it to more when build gets that far 13:51 < mnemoc> mipe: see flwrapper's logs 13:51 < mipe> mnemoc: i think karasz tryed but it didnt fix anything.. not sure though 13:52 < mnemoc> :\ 13:52 < mipe> unless he forgot to rebuild 13:52 < valentin> mnemoc: i do an ./Emerge-Pkg -system for Desktop target 13:52 < valentin> on a minimal 2.2.0-epsilon 13:52 < mnemoc> valentin: oh 13:53 < mnemoc> valentin: sysfiles split will give you troubles 13:53 < valentin> well, i had shared files hell, but that doesn't matter much 13:53 < valentin> bash-3.1# grep '^X' config/default/packages | wc -l 13:53 < valentin> 905 13:53 < valentin> bash-3.1# ls /var/adm/logs/* | wc -l 13:53 < valentin> 452 13:54 < valentin> half way through... 13:54 < mnemoc> ls -1 /var/adm/logs/*.err | wc -l ? 13:54 < mipe> valentin: on my first desktop target build i got 102 errors out of 999 or so 13:54 < mipe> valentin: but most if not all where some libstdc++ trouble 13:55 < valentin> mnemoc: if you leave out the 'shared file' ones, it is only bdb33, libexif, linux* and tcl, tk 13:55 < valentin> up to now 13:56 < mnemoc> :) 13:56 < valentin> have to start with the hnye party preparations soon 13:56 < valentin> i wonder which packages fail due to bdb and tcltk 13:56 < mnemoc> valentin: name a drink (no champagne) people drink tonight 13:57 < mnemoc> bdb33 should only affect nssdb 13:57 < valentin> ouhm - we will have coca cola, juice and lychee bowl :) 13:57 < mnemoc> lychee bowl? 13:57 * mnemoc looking for a name for 2.1.1 13:58 < valentin> mnemoc: you take a few bins of lychee in sugar juice and mix with sparcling wine :) 13:58 < valentin> lychee bowl 13:59 < mipe> mnemoc:koff <--- thats what i'll be drinking tonight 13:59 < mnemoc> koff... uhm 13:59 < mipe> just some lousy beer :) 13:59 < valentin> s/bowl/punch 14:00 < valentin> wrong translation 14:00 < valentin> lychee punch 14:00 < rxr> FCCACHE=true is not he way to go 14:01 < rxr> we had this and want the files to be actually there - just owned by the fontconfig package 14:01 < mnemoc> rxr: isn't it done on postinstall ? 14:01 < mnemoc> flistdel is evil 14:02 < valentin> fckng something killed my screen on the new machine 14:02 < valentin> i cannot even detach it 14:02 < rxr> mnemoc: it was not my idea 14:02 < rxr> mnemoc: scroll irc back to see details 14:02 < valentin> but the build inside still seems to be running though 14:02 < rxr> i nede to hack a crappy new bios into my lxs and so far it is just pure pain 14:03 < mnemoc> rxr: x86_64 iso fixed and uploaded? 14:03 < rxr> mnemoc: no 14:03 < mnemoc> :( 14:03 < rxr> because I had to start building trunk due to major breakage people complain about 14:04 < mnemoc> uhm 14:04 < jsaw> re 14:04 < jsaw> btw breakage... 14:04 < mnemoc> wb 1-perl^W jsaw 14:04 < jsaw> ... 14:05 < jsaw> generic/minimal: grub cpio and others are missing in my package list 14:05 < mnemoc> uhm 14:06 < mnemoc> they are in mine 14:06 < mnemoc> arch? 14:06 < jsaw> config/*/packages looks pretty screwed 14:06 < jsaw> x86-64 14:06 < jsaw> only 0 and 1 are set, all other stage fields are - 14:06 < valentin> hi jsaw 14:07 < jsaw> hi 14:07 < mnemoc> O -----5---- 800.108 x11 neXtaw 0.15.1 / extra/development 0 <--- who named this one? 14:07 < valentin> mipe: are you sure this mkinitrd code will be evaluated on in system merge ? 14:07 < rxr> eiiiiiiiiiii 14:07 < mnemoc> jsaw: cross-compile enabled? 14:07 < rxr> the description on the AMD page is wrong 14:07 < jsaw> mnemoc: yep 14:07 < rxr> tried the latest romflash it it does support the LX 14:07 < valentin> ah well confused 14:07 < jsaw> mnemoc: should I disable it? 14:07 < rxr> damn strange companies hell 14:08 < rxr> we need a ExactCPU and the like ... 14:08 < mnemoc> jsaw: what is your host hardwarE? 14:08 < jsaw> mnemoc: pentium4, target amd64 14:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: uhm, crosscompile :( 14:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: or fetch a pre-built native minimal iso :) 14:10 < rxr> flashed 14:10 < rxr> finallz 14:11 < rxr> from a dos loaded via pxe into a ramdisk ... 14:11 < rxr> evil hackery from hell 14:12 < valentin> mipe where is this file you patch ? 14:12 < valentin> sysfiles had been removed 14:12 < mnemoc> valentin: mkinitrd.sh at mkinitrd package 14:14 < valentin> thanks 14:14 < valentin> did a find but i searched for 'mkinitrd' 14:14 < jsaw> cu later 14:15 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 14:15 < mnemoc> valentin: review your 'svn st'... some '?' files may be around 14:16 < mnemoc> crossminimal has 66 packages, minimal 113.... 14:16 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:17 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.209.21] has joined #t2 14:18 < valentin> mnemoc: there are none (except two backup copies i did) 14:20 < valentin> hm, how does emerge find out what builds were broken ? 14:20 < valentin> i thought it just looked out for .err s 14:21 < mnemoc> afaik that's what it do 14:21 < rxr> nope 14:22 < rxr> ERROR tag in cache or package files in var/adm 14:23 < _Ragnar_> does bdb33 fail for you too? 14:23 < rxr> yes 14:23 < _Ragnar_> ok 14:23 < _Ragnar_> is it even needed still?:) 14:23 < mnemoc> some people love it 14:23 < mnemoc> i '-' it on my pkgsels 14:23 < _Ragnar_> ok 14:24 < mnemoc> nssdb need it afaik 14:24 < mnemoc> another package i '-' 14:24 < _Ragnar_> =) 14:24 < valentin> hm, too complicated to tweak manualy - i just rebuild them all 14:28 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tyqtDQ46.html <--- these from minimal are gone for crosscompiles... 14:28 < karasz> moin 14:29 < mnemoc> moin karasz 14:29 < karasz> played a little with that FCCACHE 14:30 < karasz> i noticed that FCCACHE is a variable in configure wich gets set to a path 14:30 < mnemoc> yes 14:30 < karasz> FCCACHE='/usr/X11/bin/fc-chache' 14:30 < mnemoc> that's what you overwrite 14:30 < karasz> but i try to set it to 'true' 14:30 < mnemoc> yes 14:31 < karasz> and i am not sure if it is understood later 14:31 < karasz> i mean 'true' is not a path... 14:31 < mnemoc> true is just true.... always happy 14:31 < rxr> we had this and agreed that we want generated fc-cache files 14:31 < rxr> it is intentionally changed 14:31 < mnemoc> i don't agree that 14:32 < mnemoc> but i'm just one vote 14:33 < mnemoc> flistdel is harmful 14:33 < mnemoc> letting other package to write on others' files make inconsistences 14:34 < rxr> mnemoc: in the case of flistdel/bin/sh 14:34 < rxr> but in the case of font caches files result in just up-to-date files e.g. on Emerge 14:34 < mnemoc> automatize postinstall 14:34 < mnemoc> 'trigger' updates after install/emerge 14:35 < mnemoc> if font-foo updates the cache after fontconfig was packaged it will be ignored 14:36 < mnemoc> if font-foo package is not installed, the cache will contain wrong data 14:36 < mnemoc> if font-foo package is uninstalled, the cache will contain wrong data 14:37 < karasz> mnemoc, could you take a look at http://karasz.pastebin.ca/35379 14:38 < mnemoc> karasz: syntax is correct, but rene doesn't like that solution. 14:38 < karasz> me neither 14:39 < karasz> since it doesn't resolve anything 14:39 < karasz> packages stuill fails 14:39 < mnemoc> karasz: did you -remove them before rebuild? 14:39 < karasz> i did a rm for the err file 14:39 < karasz> -oldconfig after 14:40 < rxr> mnemoc: if we / you want true back, please revert the revision so it is obvious it is not a new change 14:40 < mnemoc> [19:31:15] i deleted the err 14:40 < mnemoc> [19:31:35] it will fail 14:40 < mnemoc> [19:32:13] builds are additive, so new files will be added to the old flist 14:40 < mnemoc> [19:32:37] if the old flist includes a share, the new one will also contain it 14:41 < mnemoc> [19:33:03] use -remove instead of deleting the .err file 14:42 < mnemoc> rxr: i want we to discuss a real fix for keeping these caches consistents, which is not flistdel to hide shares imo 14:42 < karasz> i am blind or what:? 14:42 < karasz> Usage: ./scripts/Create-ErrList [ -cfg config ] [ -repository repository ] \ 14:42 < karasz> [ -copydir copydir | -movedir movedir ] [ -repstat ] \ 14:42 < karasz> [ -stage stage ] [ -logdir logdir ] [ -[full|new]delete ] \ 14:42 < karasz> [ -updated ] [ -showerr ] [ -showtree ] [ -showdepc ] \ 14:42 < karasz> [ -dry-run ] [ ] 14:43 < karasz> where is the remove? 14:43 < mnemoc> most helps are out of sync 14:44 < karasz> after that i make an -oldconfig? 14:44 < karasz> or just build? 14:44 < mnemoc> just build 14:45 < karasz> root@karasz:/usr/src/t2-trunk# ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg minimal 14:45 < karasz> Removing old error logs ... 14:45 < karasz> Searching for old lingering files ... 14:45 < karasz> -> None found. 14:45 < karasz> Finishing build. 14:45 < karasz> -> Creating package database ... 14:45 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-bh-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database. 14:45 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database. 14:45 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-ibm-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database. 14:45 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-xfree86-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database. 14:45 < karasz> -> Creating output image ... 14:46 < karasz> i messed up smth as it doesn'r even try to build :( 14:46 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -remove broken-package-1 broken-package-2 broken-package-3 broken-package-4 14:46 < karasz> aham 14:46 < rxr> mnemoc: I understand your post-install solution 14:47 < karasz> with -cfg foo i supose 14:47 < rxr> mnemoc: revert and do it 14:47 < rxr> mnemoc: but please to not de-stabelize trunk more 14:47 * rxr lunch 14:47 < _Ragnar_> can it be more unstable?:) 14:47 * _Ragnar_ wonders =) 14:47 * _Ragnar_ feed rene:) 14:47 < karasz> mnemoc, with -cfg foo i supose 14:47 < mnemoc> rxr: no alive regressions from my changes :) 14:48 < mnemoc> karasz: yes 14:48 < mnemoc> karasz: as the first argument 14:48 < karasz> yup 14:49 < mnemoc> rxr: nah.... we should talk after lunch ,-) 14:49 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm just trying to make karasz learn how to solve issues on t2 14:50 < karasz> hard job mnemoc ;) 14:50 < mnemoc> *ACK* 14:50 < _Ragnar_> =) 14:50 < karasz> but not entirely hopeless i hope 14:51 < mnemoc> i loose my patience sometimes, but i recover it fast 14:53 < _Ragnar_> =) 14:53 < mnemoc> :) 14:54 < karasz> good built finished ok 14:57 < karasz> hmm feeling like svn 14:57 < mnemoc> ? 14:57 < karasz> i would like to send to ML the diff with the .conf files 14:58 < mnemoc> ? 14:58 < karasz> or it is a solution which will be dropped? 14:58 < mnemoc> the solution was there but it was removed looking for another soluction, which is not yet implemented 14:59 < karasz> ack 14:59 < mnemoc> it's just a matter of reverting a revision 14:59 < karasz> so i just sit on my but 14:59 < karasz> well almost 14:59 < karasz> because now i will try a minimal =xorg=basic desktop 15:00 < mnemoc> you learn a few things 15:00 < mnemoc> that's why i made you suffer 15:00 < karasz> thanks 15:00 < karasz> and i am not being sarcastic here 15:01 < mnemoc> :) 15:01 < karasz> but i am unsure how didi you pointed out FCCACHE 15:02 < mnemoc> you grep the source for fc-cache 15:02 < karasz> the rest i pretty clear i guess 15:02 < mnemoc> and you found [10:31:28] FCCACHE='/usr/X11/bin/fc-chache' on makefiles 15:03 < mnemoc> and finally you overwrote that definition with do-nothing 'true' command 15:10 < karasz> 17:03:26 =[5]=> Building base/pcre [6.4 2.2.0-alpha]. 15:10 < karasz> guess will fail... 15:10 < jsaw> e 15:10 < jsaw> re 15:10 < jsaw> :) 15:11 < karasz> hi jsaw 15:11 < valentin> damn, hell 15:11 < jsaw> hi karasz 15:11 < valentin> $moddir did not work 15:11 < mipe> uhm, really? 15:11 < jsaw> svn co successful on new machine, nice 15:11 < karasz> ok, i ctrl-c the build since pcre failed 15:12 < karasz> so i guess that's it for this year 15:12 < mipe> karasz: did you try downdated version of libtool for trunk build? didnt work? 15:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: sempron? 15:12 < karasz> minimal+xorg built fine 15:12 < valentin> hm... tmp/...../lib/modules is there, but the subdir is not :/ 15:12 < karasz> mipe, yes 15:12 * mipe wants low power consuming pc soon next year 15:12 < karasz> i use the downdated libtool 1.5.20 15:12 < mipe> karasz: and didnt work? 15:12 < karasz> nope 15:13 < karasz> same error 15:13 < mnemoc> valentin: there should be a mkdir -p there 15:13 < karasz> i sent src.pcre to rxr 15:13 < mipe> i have upgraded libtool version build running, hopefully something works 15:13 < karasz> to investigate 15:13 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes 15:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: :D 15:14 < mnemoc> jsaw: now you can do your native build ,-) 15:16 < jsaw> yes! 15:19 < mnemoc> karasz: can you upload to pastebin.ca your diff to create .conf files? 15:19 * Stelz is back (gone 01:01:43) 15:19 < karasz> i tried to svn diff with not the expected results 15:19 < karasz> gimmie a syntax and i give you an url 15:20 < karasz> i made a svn diff but it didn't listed my conf files 15:21 < karasz> just some stuff on firefox and automake quirk 15:21 < mnemoc> karasz: svn add them first, then svn diff package/xorg 15:21 < mnemoc> karasz: svn add them first, then svn diff package/xorg > xorg.diff 15:21 < karasz> i'll try 15:22 < valentin> mnemoc: mkdir -p $tmpdir/$moddir 15:23 < mnemoc> valentin: and doesn't work? 15:23 < mnemoc> is moddir correctly defined? 15:25 < valentin> doesn't seem so :( 15:25 < valentin> [ "$moddir" ] || moddir="/lib/modules/$kernelver" 15:25 < valentin> should be ok ?! 15:26 < valentin> except for the '//' - should not matter 15:26 < mnemoc> moddir=lib/modules/... 15:26 < mnemoc> not sure about $kernelver 15:27 < karasz> mnemoc, http://karasz.pastebin.ca/35381 15:27 < mnemoc> there is some magic related to extraversions 15:27 < mnemoc> and i don't remeber where is it stored 15:27 < mnemoc> karasz: why did you copyright those files to rock?? 15:27 < rxr> re 15:28 < mnemoc> wb rxr :) 15:28 < Stelz> ?? ??? 15:28 < Stelz> ) 15:28 < karasz> mnemoc, i made a copy paste from 7zip i guess, because i failed to use the CreateCopyPatch script 15:28 < Stelz> hi all 15:28 < mnemoc> karasz: why failed? 15:28 < mnemoc> hi unicode-boy 15:29 < karasz> because i didn't know the right magic words 15:29 < karasz> :( 15:29 < karasz> much I have to learn yet.... 15:29 < karasz> as Yoda would say it... 15:29 < rxr> anyone ever tried to build irssi statically dietlibc ? 15:30 < rxr> karasz: ./scritps/Create-CopyPatch package/.../your/file | patch -p1 15:30 * rxr shower 15:30 < _Ragnar_> no 15:30 < _Ragnar_> doubt that'd work 15:30 < rxr> _Ragnar_: maybe I try later 15:31 < rxr> I think I'll make my new router base on a usb stick and thus only consume a few Watts 24x7x265 ... 15:32 < mnemoc> :D 15:32 < _Ragnar_> =) 15:32 < _Ragnar_> nice 15:32 < zod> rxr: you only run your router 265 days a year? 15:32 < mnemoc> hehe 15:33 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 15:33 * _Ragnar_ giggles 15:33 < karasz> mnemoc, should i make another post on pastebin? 15:33 < mnemoc> zod: http://www.frappr.com/t2 15:33 < mnemoc> karasz: nah 15:33 < zod> mnemoc: eh? 15:33 < karasz> mnemoc, why? 15:34 < karasz> i kinda like to make propper things 15:34 < mnemoc> zod: you are welcome to add yourself to our map if you use T2 :) 15:34 < zod> mnemoc: i failed to use it ;) 15:34 < mnemoc> karasz: i already fixed it locally 15:34 < karasz> ok 15:34 < karasz> then i will make it for me ;) 15:34 < zod> rxr: ftp://ftp.freenet.de/pub/lart.info/42/ these binaries are statically linked against dietlibc 15:35 < karasz> zod i failed to use it is copyrighted 15:35 < mnemoc> zod: konqueror? 15:36 < mnemoc> zod: or failed to use t2? 15:37 < zod> zod: 2nd 15:38 < _Ragnar_> g++: /usr/lib/.libs/libacl.so: No such file or directory 15:38 < _Ragnar_> <-- that problem is still present for kdelibs 15:39 < mnemoc> libacl.la is broken i guess 15:40 < mnemoc> zod: what part? need help? 15:40 < zod> mnemoc: the kernel build failed 15:41 < zod> mnemoc: and i want to use t2 to build a small distro that runs on a ramdisk so i'll have to tweak the profiles 15:42 * Stelz is away: dunno 15:42 < mnemoc> zod: 2.1 or 2.2? 15:42 < zod> 2.2 15:43 < karasz> at76c503a and lazy fs? 15:43 < mnemoc> generic/minimal should build flawless today, if you want to take that as start point 15:44 < karasz> mnemoc, even the above mentioned? 15:45 < karasz> but maybe zod wants to use linux24.... 15:46 < mnemoc> karasz: minimal doesn't include those packages 15:46 < zod> mnemoc: i took embedded because of the uclibc 15:46 < karasz> yes, i forgot that 15:46 < mnemoc> i fear noone has tried uclibc support in a few... 8? months :( 15:47 < zod> wee :D 15:47 < zod> karasz: nope linux26 15:47 < mnemoc> linux24 will be removed from t2 trunk soon 15:47 < karasz> good 15:48 < karasz> that's it guys and owlites 15:48 < karasz> cu in 2006 15:48 < zod> cu then :) 15:48 < Stelz> :) 15:48 < karasz> have a nice NYP 15:48 * Stelz Date/Time is now [ Sat Dec 31 17:46:48 ] 15:48 < Stelz> gigi 15:48 < Stelz> coming soon :) 15:48 < zod> nyp? new year party? 15:48 < karasz> yup 15:48 < zod> k :) 15:48 * Stelz as aeay for the supper.. :) 15:49 < Stelz> *away 15:49 < zod> mnemoc: should i try minimal then? 15:49 < zod> mnemoc: or should i try to fix the uclibc stuff ;) 15:50 < mnemoc> zod: it's up to you :) you could also change minimal to use uclibc ,-) 15:50 < mtr_> zod: do you need uclibc ? 15:50 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 15:51 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:51 < mtr> there are some known issues currently with uclibc at trunk 15:51 < zod> mtr: well it should be a bit smaller than normal libc 15:51 < rxr> re 15:52 < CIA-9> amery * r14344 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/ (7 files): * renamed xorg-server scripts to .sh on svn, and set copyright notes 15:52 < mnemoc> re-wb rxr 15:52 < mtr> hi rxr 15:54 < rxr> JessicaAlba ? 15:55 < mnemoc> ? 15:55 < mipe> where? 15:55 < rxr> ftp://ftp.freenet.de/pub/lart.info/JessicaAlba 15:56 < zod> JessicaAlba 15:56 < zod> Latest unstable snapshot. Similar to `Debian sid' 15:56 < mnemoc> uhm 15:56 < rxr> zod: is that jurs ? 15:56 < rxr> yours ... even 15:56 < zod> rxr: nope 15:56 < rxr> zod: you know that we have dietlibc support ? 15:57 < zod> rxr: yes 15:57 < CIA-9> amery * r14345 /trunk/package/xorg/gccmakedep/ (gccmakedep gccmakedep.conf gccmakedep.sh): * renamed gccmakedep/gccmakedep to .sh, removed svn:executable, and set copyright note 15:57 < rxr> are those statically or dynamically linked ? 15:57 < zod> Mostly static linked, you can use it on any Linux system 15:57 < zod> according to the README 16:06 < jsaw> harhar 16:09 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 16:09 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you have in mind for multi-build ISOs? 16:09 < jsaw> vserver lets linux-header fail 16:09 < mnemoc> ? 16:10 < jsaw> version numbers, ya know 16:10 < mnemoc> but linux-header has not been updated 16:10 < jsaw> that's the problem 16:10 < jsaw> vserver applies to 2.6.14 up 16:10 < jsaw> linux-header is att 2.6.12... 16:11 < mnemoc> vserver.conf support different patches 16:11 < rxr> mnemoc: doesn't that just work right now ? 16:11 < rxr> and btw. who is using multi build isos anyway? 16:11 < mnemoc> rxr: i do, for vservers 16:12 < rxr> i fear you have been the only one then 16:12 < mnemoc> rxr: and livecd for vservers would rock 16:12 < rxr> what kind of config did you use then ? 16:12 < rxr> I mean what kind of multple instances to install ? 16:12 < mnemoc> one build for the host, and one build for each 'kind' of guest 16:12 < rxr> but you only install the host from CD, right ? 16:13 < mnemoc> currently yes 16:13 < rxr> then "none" install method for the guests would be enough for the 16:14 < mnemoc> yes, as fallback 16:14 < mnemoc> but a usa case: 16:14 < mnemoc> build 1: lightweight dietlibc based minimalistic with X support for host 16:14 < mnemoc> build 2: normal but non-booting desktop for guest 16:14 < mnemoc> i.e. 'jailed desktop' 16:15 < mnemoc> installed just using our magic installer 16:15 < mnemoc> or even better... caged desktop at live 16:16 < mnemoc> another use case, vserver server install cd where you choose some which 'servers' you want to install as guests of your server 16:16 < mnemoc> from a single cd 16:18 < mnemoc> or multi-server livecd, storing just data on HD 16:18 < mnemoc> very promissing to me 16:18 < CIA-9> aldas * r14346 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-back/gnustep-back.desc: * updated gnustep-back (0.10.0 -> 0.10.2) 16:19 < CIA-9> aldas * r14347 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-base/gnustep-base.desc: * updated gnustep-base (1.11.0 -> 1.11.2) 16:20 < mnemoc> the only needed thing would be separated $ROOT on install, i.e. 'subroot', and a seletor for 'which builds to install' 16:21 < CIA-9> aldas * r14348 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-gui/gnustep-gui.desc: * updated gnustep-gui (0.10.0 -> 0.10.2) 16:22 < CIA-9> aldas * r14349 /trunk/package/gnustep/gnustep-make/gnustep-make.desc: * updated gnustep-make (1.11.0 -> 1.11.2) 16:23 < mnemoc> but i have no idea how to 'mix' these 'multiple subroots' on livecd 16:23 < rxr> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1454402 16:24 < CIA-9> aldas * r14350 /trunk/package/gnustep/gorm/gorm.desc: * updated gorm (0.9.10 -> 1.0.1) 16:24 < zod> any hints how to build a distro that runs on a ramdisk? 16:24 < mnemoc> ok ok... i know i'm talking crap... /me back yo work 16:24 < rxr> This undated graphic proved by Intel Corp., shows the company's new logo. Intel Corp. is launching a new corporate and brand identity that includes the reworked logo, a change in its ubiquitous "Intel Inside" stickers and a shift away from the Pentium name for its microprocessors 16:24 < rxr> mnemoc: /me also neither 16:24 < rxr> mnemoc: let's talk about that when someone wants that 16:24 < rxr> 16:24 < rxr> 16:24 < rxr> ABC NewsIntel to Unveil New Branding Strategy 16:25 < mnemoc> rxr: i do, but i only have 24 hours per day :\ 16:25 < CIA-9> aldas * r14351 /trunk/package/gnustep/gworkspace/gworkspace.desc: * updated gworkspace (0.7.1 -> 0.7.2) 16:25 < mnemoc> 'leap ahead' :p 16:25 < rxr> mnemoc: you write clipper X hours a day - that is even worse ... 16:25 < rxr> mnemoc: sucks IMHO 16:25 < rxr> mnemoc: we need a better T2 logo branding ... 16:25 < mnemoc> *ACK* 16:26 < rxr> so - what the heck do I do with ppc 2.1 build ... 16:26 < rxr> install some older gcc into my host ... 16:26 < CIA-9> mtr * r14352 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.conf: 16:26 < CIA-9> * force malloc glibc compatibility, that is to return a live 16:26 < CIA-9> pointer with malloc(0) instead of NULL, this fixes 16:26 < CIA-9> make problems with linux26 16:26 < rxr> damn 16:26 < mnemoc> .oO 16:26 < mnemoc> rxr: you need vserver on your ppc ,-) 16:27 < mnemoc> rxr: but chroot may also work 16:27 < rxr> chroot is enough 16:27 < rxr> ack 16:27 < mnemoc> :) 16:27 < jsaw> not able to get vserver cooperate with linux-header 16:27 < mnemoc> jsaw: the script tries to find up-down the first patch which mostly match linux version 16:28 < mnemoc> [D] patch-for-2.6.14 16:28 < mnemoc> [D] patch-for-2.6.12 16:28 < mnemoc> should do the trick 16:29 < mnemoc> 2.6.14 will be the 'best match' for 2.6.15 16:29 < mnemoc> and 2.6.12 will be a 'perfect match' for 2.6.12 16:30 < jsaw> mnemoc: if you find a patch for 2.6.12... 16:30 < mnemoc> what ugly piece of code i wrote there :( 16:30 < jsaw> I didn't find one... 16:30 < mnemoc> jsaw: older vserver version 16:30 < jsaw> where? 16:30 < mnemoc> http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/ 16:30 < jsaw> and, will the utils work with 2.0 ? 16:30 < mnemoc> and http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/OUTDATED/ 16:31 < mnemoc> yes, same utils since 1.9.5 16:31 < jsaw> sure? 16:31 < mnemoc> 100% 16:31 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFD1D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 16:31 < mnemoc> i idle on #vserver too ,-) 16:31 < jsaw> I'll try 16:32 < CIA-9> mtr * r14353 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/ (gdb-uclibc.patch psmisc-add_libintl.patch): 16:32 < CIA-9> * removed obsolete gdb patch 16:32 < CIA-9> * adjusted psmisc patch to latest pkg version 16:32 < mnemoc> jsaw: btw, change first patch to: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.6.15-rc7-vs2.0.1.diff 16:32 < mnemoc> let's keep stable branch, and not perpetual development-branch 16:33 < jsaw> k 16:35 < CIA-9> mtr * r14354 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/hotfix-genwctype.patch: 16:35 < CIA-9> * fixed uclibc locale build: 16:35 < CIA-9> Fix uninitialized stack variable, causes a segfault with -O2 16:35 < CIA-9> optimization and gcc 4.0.2 (send upstream) 16:35 < nzg> moin 16:36 < mnemoc> moin nzg 16:36 < rxr> hi nzg 16:37 < mnemoc> mtr: great to see you fixing uclibc ,-) 16:37 < morfoh> moin ... 16:37 < mnemoc> moin morfoh 16:37 < CIA-9> jsaw * r14355 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: 16:37 < CIA-9> * update patch to 2.6.15-rc7-vs2.0.1 16:37 < CIA-9> * add patch 2.6.12.3-vs2.0-rc9 for linux-header 16:37 < morfoh> hey mnemoc ;) 16:38 < morfoh> you can call me "chef" for today ... already prepared the 3rd. cake for today and a dinner ... puh ... ;) 16:39 < Baldzius> currywurst :) 16:39 < mnemoc> hehe 16:39 < Baldzius> moin morfoh :) 16:39 < CIA-9> mtr * r14356 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/mine.conf: 16:39 < CIA-9> * fixed uclibc cross building mine: 16:39 < CIA-9> prevent pulling in glibc header files in stage 1 16:39 < morfoh> moin Baldzius .... haha ... Currywurst isn' 16:39 < morfoh> t that hard to make 16:39 < morfoh> but no ! 16:39 < jsaw> mnemoc: linux-header passed 16:39 < morfoh> no currywurst :) 16:40 < Baldzius> :) 16:42 < mnemoc> jsaw: :D 16:42 < jsaw> bbl 16:43 < mipe> btw. has there been any work on graphical installer for 2.2? 16:43 < rxr> ouhm ouhm - valentin ? 16:44 < mipe> and rxr: fill trac with some todo files next year :) other than package testing/fixing 16:44 < rxr> mipe: ack 16:45 < rxr> mipe: I can tell you some hours++ fun right now if you want advanced stuff ... 16:45 < rxr> a minimal as possible "ip" for use in the install 1st stage loader 16:45 < rxr> binary should be less than 10kB for x86 and Os ... 16:45 < rxr> static dietlibc ... 16:46 < mnemoc> :D 16:46 < rxr> that is it must just support the commands used in the install/init 16:46 < mnemoc> udhcpc would be also nice 16:46 < rxr> if you want do that I propose to start from scratch - I already stipped down iproute2 and it is still just slightly below 100kB 16:47 < rxr> if none wants to do this pain I'll early next year .. 16:47 < rxr> btw. scrolling thru iproute2 I noticed what all the junk it can control ... ,-) 16:47 < mnemoc> iproute2 is amazingly powerful 16:47 < mnemoc> ifconfig just sucks 16:48 < rxr> fefe has a miniifconfig on his todo 16:48 < rxr> but who wants ifconfig 16:48 < rxr> I just want the minimal as possible ip 16:48 < mnemoc> dietip :) 16:49 < rxr> embip 16:49 < rxr> whatever 16:49 < rxr> yes 16:49 < mnemoc> :) 16:49 < mnemoc> ip route and ip addr only, on a very basic form 16:49 < rxr> of course in a system one wants the full beast 16:49 < rxr> but 150kB+ just to set the ip for netinstall is just rediculous 16:49 < mnemoc> sure, but not on initrd ,-) 16:49 < mnemoc> ack 16:50 < rxr> mipe: another thing - current the stage2 is not compressed just a tar 16:50 < mnemoc> i guess it's easier to write one from zero 16:50 < rxr> because I had no tiny gunzip handy ... 16:50 < mnemoc> ip++ 16:50 < rxr> mnemoc: well - maybe not ++ - it suggests better enhanced ... 16:50 < rxr> diet or mini is a better prefix 16:50 < mnemoc> ip-- 16:50 < mnemoc> :) 16:50 < rxr> ip# ? 16:51 < mnemoc> *G* 16:51 < mnemoc> dietip sounds good to me 16:59 < mtr> xorg/font-*-type1 have shared files on $root/var/cache/fontconfig/, they run fc-cache during install 17:00 < rxr> mnemoc: do you commit the revert to set FCACHE and such to true ? 17:00 < mtr> add the path to flistdel in xorg-config.in? 17:00 < mnemoc> rxr: do you really agree commiting it back? 17:00 < rxr> mtr: mnemoc decided we shoudl really just to that at postinstall time 17:00 < rxr> mnemoc: yes yes ack ack ac 17:00 < rxr> k 17:01 < mnemoc> i didn't decide anything.... we are a community, i don't impose 17:01 < rxr> go go 17:02 < CIA-9> amery * r14357 /trunk/package/xorg/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * changed fonts to not run fc-cache duirng build, it has to be done on postinstall 17:02 < mnemoc> :) 17:02 < rxr> mnemoc: did you revert a revision ? 17:02 < mtr> mnemoc: thanks ;-) 17:03 < mnemoc> nope, i couldn't find it, so i added the files (from karaz patch) 17:03 < rxr> you commit is extremly invalid 17:03 < mnemoc> oh 17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: you could have said that you have not found the revision ... 17:03 < mnemoc> i couldn't find it on svn log 17:04 < mnemoc> and i read about two months on package/xorg 17:04 < mnemoc> rxr: what is so extremly invalid on that commit? 17:04 < rxr> single package tweaks 17:05 < rxr> and only alf of the storry 17:05 < rxr> half 17:05 < mnemoc> redundant, incomplete.... but extremly invalid? :p 17:05 < rxr> initial impl: 17:05 < rxr> k# svn diff -r 12274:12275 17:05 < rxr> that summs up to extremly invalid ,-) 17:06 < mnemoc> :) 17:06 < rxr> removal was r13564 17:06 < rxr> r13564 | rene | 2005-11-24 14:05:18 +0100 (Thu, 24 Nov 2005) | 4 lines 17:06 < rxr> * improved xorg-server/modular-x-conf.in to not disable font cache runs 17:06 < rxr> but remove the files from the flist, thus in-build virtual X 17:06 < rxr> invocations have them 17:06 < rxr> ah 17:06 < rxr> look 17:06 < rxr> in-build virtual X 17:07 < mnemoc> ic 17:07 < rxr> for those crappy big fat packages such as mozill crap .. 17:07 < rxr> so - what to do ? 17:07 < rxr> either revert it in a way so that the one line for all xorg modular pacakges in intact 17:07 < rxr> or really generate the files to have the for this virtual X driver to fixup borked packags ? 17:09 < mnemoc> run fccache once at a very early level so only _core_ fonts are included? 17:09 < rxr> sorry that I forgot that it was for the virtual X ... btw 17:09 < mnemoc> yes, i forgot too 17:09 < rxr> well - then fontconf would invalidly depend on some fonts 17:09 < mnemoc> or just run it on font-config package 17:09 < rxr> and it would be fragile to shuffling build order 17:09 < CIA-9> aldas * r14358 /trunk/package/scientific/wxmaxima/wxmaxima.desc: * updated wxmaxima (0.6.2 -> 0.6.4) 17:09 < mnemoc> and who care it's content, postinstall will fix it anyway 17:09 < rxr> I think just adding the temp files to the flist del is very fine 17:10 < rxr> mnemoc: the packages needing fonts for virtual X start 17:10 < mnemoc> yes, but one call is enough for that 17:10 < rxr> when we regen priority or once have dynamic scheduling it will fail here and then when we do not let fontcache depend on some fonts ... 17:11 < rxr> I would not like to see fontconfig depending on some fonts it has no depends on just to get some cached snapshot 17:11 < rxr> I would rather let the packages run fc-cache as they like and those packages then depending on the fonts they need to run their installer or so automatically 17:11 < mnemoc> dinamic priority depends on known deps, those known deps shall be proper 17:11 < rxr> in-system postinstall fc-cache takes care the cache is fine 17:11 < rxr> yep 17:12 < rxr> and the font deps should be in the ugly graphic installer packags - not artificially on font-config 17:12 < mnemoc> so _global_ flistdel for /var/cache ? ,-) 17:12 < mnemoc> noone owning them? 17:13 < rxr> nope - doing crazzy stuff is invalid - we just allow those contconfig cache files 17:13 < rxr> they are in /usr/X11/... IIRC anyway 17:13 < mnemoc> :) 17:13 < rxr> ah no 17:13 < rxr> var/cache ok 17:14 < mtr> var/cache/fontconfig only? 17:14 < mnemoc> on 2.1 ref only ./pdnsd/pdnsd.cache is there 17:15 < rxr> maybe it is created because the crap expect it to be there with some permission 17:15 < rxr> I would rather just add the fc-cache related files to the del 17:15 < rxr> not any /cache 17:16 < rxr> you never know what crap will place there in the future 17:16 < CIA-9> aldas * r14359 /trunk/package/database/metakit/metakit.desc: * updated metakit (2.4.9.4 -> 2.4.9.5) 17:16 < rxr> let it trigger a error then 17:16 < mnemoc> ack 17:18 < mnemoc> but we should improve postinstall anyway, some 'just for me' (at /var/adm/postinstall ?) and on every update/install auto-triggered? 17:19 < mnemoc> probably passing $pkg to them as argument 17:21 < valentin> wtff 17:21 < valentin> no wonder the kernel keeps failing 17:21 < valentin> the changes i made seem to have no effect 17:22 < mnemoc> uhm 17:22 < valentin> does not use my current copy of mkinitrd.sh ?! 17:22 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll revert my extremely wrong commit 17:22 < valentin> i inserted some debuging output, but it does not show in the log 17:22 < mnemoc> valentin: stage-package ? 17:22 < rxr> mnemoc: second 17:22 < valentin> however, linux24 succeded 17:23 < rxr> I revert with fix in a minute 17:23 < mnemoc> ok 17:23 < mnemoc> better 17:23 < rxr> valentin: of course you need to rebuild mkinitrd package if you fix a bug in it 17:23 < valentin> rxr: so it uses the system wide mkinitrd ? 17:23 < rxr> if course 17:24 < valentin> then, why are the prioritys like that ? 17:24 < rxr> as it does use the system wide compiler 17:24 < rxr> why should it use a in-tree version of some file installed by some other package ? 17:24 < mnemoc> valentin: re-emerge mkinitrd :) 17:24 < valentin> rxr: of course, but shouldn't mkinitrd priority be lowered then ? 17:25 < mnemoc> true 17:25 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 17:25 < mnemoc> minute 17:25 < mnemoc> sysfiles was at 202.500 anyway ,-) +1 to the split 17:26 < rxr> valentin: we need a real dyn dep generator ? 17:26 < mnemoc> ? ? 17:27 < CIA-9> amery * r14360 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.desc: * repriorized mkinitrd before linux* packages 17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: motivating valentin to get rid of the static priority hack 17:27 < mnemoc> :D 17:28 < mnemoc> i still think we could use per stage tsort for that 17:29 < rxr> valentin is our dedicated dyn prio man ... 17:29 < valentin> rxr: true 17:29 < valentin> as soon as we remove those loops 17:29 < CIA-9> aldas * r14361 /trunk/package/multimedia/libosip2/libosip2.desc: * updated libosip2 (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2) 17:30 < mnemoc> tsort will report the loops so we can fix [DEP]s 17:30 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:30 < mnemoc> or attribute them 17:30 < mnemoc> i think dep attributes are the way to go 17:30 < valentin> have to continue the preparations cu 17:30 < mnemoc> cu valentin 17:31 < rxr> preparaion for dyn prio ? 17:31 < rxr> cool 17:31 < valentin> mnemoc: + stage evaluation 17:31 < mnemoc> *G* 17:31 < mnemoc> valentin: only packages on 'this' stage should be considered 17:55 < rxr> let's see if it is still possible to build gcc linked with dietlibc .. 17:56 < rxr> and as exercise the C++ STL on the way ... 17:56 < valentin> mnemoc: but some packages are "multi stage" 17:56 < valentin> so we could break loops if we view those deps as resolved 17:56 < rxr> that should be avoided 17:57 < rxr> since they should only be marked to be build in a higher stage to resolve deps 17:57 < rxr> thus you might strip valid deps this way 17:57 < rxr> you need to look into what shoudl happen for the current stage 17:58 < rxr> and only loosing such loops as last resort by looking what should exist before 17:58 < rxr> but until we see show pretty graphs this is hard to decide 17:59 * Stelz is back (gone 02:17:14) 18:00 < CIA-9> rene * r14362 /trunk/package/xorg/ (5 files in 5 dirs): 18:00 < CIA-9> * reverted r14357, FCCACHE=true for some packages, and mark cache files 18:00 < CIA-9> to be deleted from flist (as discussed on IRC due virtual X needing 18:00 < CIA-9> fonts for some graphic instalers to start) 18:04 < CIA-9> aldas * r14363 /trunk/package/python/sip/sip.desc: * updated sip (4.2.1 -> 4.3.2) 18:06 < CIA-9> aldas * r14364 /trunk/package/python/pyqt/pyqt.desc: * updated pyqt (3.14.1 -> 3.15.1) 18:22 < sparc-kly_> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/70832 Japan: $25.47 for 100Mbps/50Mbps :) 18:23 < CIA-9> aldas * r14365 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.desc: * updated ruby (1.8.3 -> 1.8.4) 18:23 < mnemoc> i want that 18:23 < CIA-9> aldas * r14366 /trunk/package/security/rssh/rssh.desc: * updated rssh (2.3.0 -> 2.3.1) 18:24 < sparc-kly_> me too 18:43 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.10] has joined #t2 18:43 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.106] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:43 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 18:49 < mnemoc> yuck 18:55 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 wish you all a very happy 2006! | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 18:57 < rxr> damn 18:57 < rxr> bash build is so ugly 18:57 < rxr> cross build to dietlibc fails now 18:57 < rxr> because of inclusing of config.h and other crapo using host compiler to build helpers 18:57 < rxr> what a crap build 18:57 < rxr> bash authors should be kicked majorly 18:57 < rxr> best to the moon or better mars 18:59 < mnemoc> mercurio, to get burn 19:01 < rxr> ok __u_char_defined defined in config.h works aroudn this major brain damage ... 19:05 < rxr> bash is such a huge fat beast ... 19:05 < rxr> my oh myu 19:19 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178139187.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 19:19 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 wish you all a very happy 2006! | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 19:19 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Dec 31 18:55:11 2005] 19:19 [Users #t2] 19:19 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ Stelz ] 19:19 [ _Ragnar_] [ demian] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 19:19 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 19:19 [ Baldzius] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_] 19:19 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 19:19 -!- [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 19:19 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 19:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 31 secs 19:20 [Users #t2] 19:20 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ Stelz ] 19:20 [ _Ragnar_] [ demian] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 19:20 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_ ] [ zod ] 19:20 [ Baldzius] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_] 19:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 19 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 19:20 < rxr_> so - me soon off - cu then 19:20 < rxr_> oh - btw. with PARALLEL=4 on a dietlibc embedded build I can fail bash ... 19:20 < rxr_> marking NOPARALLEL helped ... 19:20 < rxr_> guess I'll commit that later on 19:20 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178162188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:20 -!- You're now known as rxr 19:21 < jsaw> oh my, vserver seems not to be 64bit ready... 19:21 < morfoh> the flat is "filling" up .... 19:22 < CIA-9> aldas * r14369 /trunk/package/base/mdadm/mdadm.desc: * updated mdadm (2.1 -> 2.2) 19:27 < rxr> cu alll 19:27 < rxr> happy celebration 19:27 < morfoh> rxr: thx ... have fun too ! :D 19:32 < Baldzius> :) 19:32 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:33 < misl> hi folks :) 19:33 < morfoh> hey ... my moped misl :D 19:33 < Baldzius> hi misl 19:33 < misl> moped? 19:34 < morfoh> misl: you have forgotten our plan ? ;) 19:34 < misl> morfoh: when does your party start? 19:35 < morfoh> it already started ... at least the first 20 people are here now 19:35 < misl> hey I only came up with the plan, I am not intended to drive the tour myself :) 19:35 < morfoh> full house today 19:35 < misl> well, say hi for me :) 19:35 < morfoh> misl: pfffff ... you have to drive with me anyway :p 19:35 < misl> any lovely ladies in da house? 19:35 < morfoh> misl: ok I'll say hello from misl :) 19:35 < morfoh> misl: a lot :) 19:36 < morfoh> mostly scandinavian ;) 19:36 < misl> morfoh: you drie I will sit on the back :) 19:36 < misl> oehh, maybe we both drive and have a lady on the back :D 19:36 < morfoh> misl: no problem ... I'm anyway the best moped driver around here ;) 19:36 < CIA-9> aldas * r14370 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/ (lirc.conf lirc.desc): 19:36 < CIA-9> * updated lirc (0.7.1 -> 0.7.2) 19:36 < CIA-9> * changed hook postinstall -> postmake 19:36 < misl> drie =drive 19:37 < morfoh> ok ... have to change the room ... 19:37 < morfoh> cu later ladies and gentlemen :) 19:37 < misl> cu morfoh 19:37 < morfoh> cu 19:38 < misl> morfoh: are you sure you are the best moped driver? I am not called missile and rocket man for nothing :) 19:39 < misl> But they also call me ticket man :( for all the speeding tickets I get. 19:51 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has joined #t2 20:09 < CIA-9> aldas * r14371 /trunk/package/develop/doxygen/doxygen.desc: * updated doxygen (1.4.4 -> 1.4.6) 20:09 < Baldzius> happy new year :) 20:09 < Baldzius> goodbye :) 20:10 < misl> happy new year baldzius 20:10 < misl> cu next year :) 20:13 < Stelz> :) 20:23 < misl> hi Stelz :) 20:23 < nzg> so, until next year then 20:24 < misl> has the new year already started in Moscow: 20:24 < Stelz> hello, mipe 20:24 < Stelz> oops 20:24 < Stelz> :0 20:24 < Stelz> hello, misl :) 20:24 < nzg> cu 20:24 < misl> nzg cu and happy new year :) 20:24 < nzg> happy new year for you all *g* 21:19 < owl> happy new year ;) 21:19 < owl> bye (cu next year) 21:27 < mipe> anyone in 2006 already? 22:05 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.10.171] has joined #t2 22:05 < keinek> hi 22:06 < keinek> i need help, i build a minimal t2 with mnemosyne... 22:06 < keinek> i have alsa. 22:06 < keinek> and work fine. 22:06 < keinek> but some program dont. 22:06 < keinek> programs that need oss 22:06 < keinek> so. 22:07 < keinek> i need /dev/dsp 22:07 < keinek> but i sure that i forget something. 22:07 < keinek> i dont have /dev/dsp. 22:07 < keinek> oss emulator dont work. 22:07 < keinek> anybody can help me? :'( 22:08 < keinek> i use xfce4 22:08 < keinek> and in the sound mixer when i select sound blaster live. 22:09 < keinek> and go again, is again in default, i cant select sound blaster live :( 22:11 < karasz> bonne anne a tous 22:13 < keinek> hi 22:17 < morfoh> merci karasz ... pour tois aussi ;) 22:18 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.250.10.171] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:20 * Stelz is away: x 22:20 < Baldzius> karasz: mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3 22:21 < Baldzius> oops keinek :) 22:21 < Baldzius> g* i am drunk :) 22:22 < morfoh> Baldzius: so don't touch your gun while your drunken :p 22:23 < valentin> short hi 22:23 < Baldzius> morfoh: i am desperately searching for ammo ... googling :) 22:23 < valentin> how is your hny eve ? 22:23 < Baldzius> hi valentin, not bad :) 22:23 < valentin> mnemoc: we do the lychee punch now, so if you wanna name it 22:24 < valentin> ppl here in berlin have no watches 22:24 < valentin> they burn all firework by now 22:24 < Baldzius> :)))))) 22:24 < morfoh> valentin: ack ...s eems so ... but I guess they will have enough to "burn" at 0:00 22:24 < Baldzius> i am waiting for 12 to shoot from my gun :) 22:27 < valentin> morfoh: at 0:00 is WWIII 22:28 < valentin> dark clouds of powder covering the sky 22:28 < valentin> so, cu later 22:29 < misl> Hi guys, I don't need no ammo :D (big big grin) 22:31 < Baldzius> :) 22:34 -!- mipe [n=mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 22:34 < misl> I fight bare handed :D whoaaaaaa hu 22:46 -!- sparc-kly__ [n=mubex@64.237.242.138] has joined #t2 23:08 < karasz> guys c'mon hurry up 23:08 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.245.228] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:08 < karasz> i am in 2006, what are you waitin' for? 23:09 < karasz> again a very happy new year for you all 23:45 < sparc-kly__> im in 2005 :) 23:46 < sparc-kly__> happy new year karasz :P 23:50 * Baldzius is going where all drunk people go ... to bed :) 23:50 < Baldzius> gn8 all :) --- Log closed Sun Jan 01 00:00:18 2006