T2 IRC Log: 2005-12-30

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--- Log opened Fri Dec 30 00:00:17 2005
00:05 < CIA-2> amery * r14278 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/ (6 files): * decustmain-ized mkinitrd, files renamed to .sh (naming standard) and copyright notes fixed
00:06 < mnemoc> better i run.... cu ,-)
00:12 < valentin> re
00:17 < LMJ> hello
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00:19 < LMJ> pkgsel / stone updated ?
00:19 * Stelz is away: slip
00:19 < Stelz> 'night all
00:19 < Stelz> ;)
00:19 < YeT2> gaah ... and i was getting familiar :(
00:28 < MisterN> cu
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00:29 < YeT2> mnemoc: is 'old' sysfile package still consistent while downloading from 'older 2hoursago' t-trunk ?
00:30 < YeT2> * lol
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00:35 < axion> rxr, any idea whats wrong with that iso?
00:52 < YeT2> bye bye
01:05 < mnemoc> rehi
01:06 < mnemoc> hey! trunk was inconsistent for just 4 minutes!
01:13 < axion> well, no luck fixing this kernel panic...gonna sync svn and try again
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01:46 < axion> hi
01:47 < mnemoc> wb axion
01:48 < axion> today isn't my day
01:48 < axion> trunk's Config script now seg faults when starting
01:51 < mnemoc> axion: use -nobashmod
01:51 < axion> thanks
01:52 * mnemoc wonders why people is getting segfaults there today :\
01:55 < nzg> hm, Config seems to segfault if you interrupt it during startup and restart it
01:56 < nzg> and it seems to be -cfg dependant
01:57 < mnemoc> the only change is my architecture auto-registration
01:59 < nzg> i think i had this some time before
01:59 < mnemoc> uhm
01:59 < nzg> so it must not be recently introduced
02:03 < nzg> and it runs smooth with -nobashmod here
02:04 < mnemoc> -nobashmod makes Config not load a .so to extend bash to speed up the process
02:04 < mnemoc> -nobashmod until now was only needed on static enviroments
02:05 < nzg> strace says:
02:05 < nzg> [pid 20171] read(3, "Usage: ./scripts/Create-PkgList "..., 4096) = 48
02:05 < nzg> [pid 20171] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
02:06 < mnemoc> uhm
02:07 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-PkgList is a wrapper to call awk
02:10 < mnemoc> uhm... no modifications since 2005-04-02
02:11 < nzg> the last opened file of Config was "config/default/packages"
02:12 < nzg> i guess pressing STRG+C during Config startup left a corrupt package list
02:12 < nzg> so it may or may not relate to the other segfaults at all
02:12 < mnemoc> Config has always been selfdestructive
02:14 < nzg> although receiving a SIGINT during startup might not be an intended usage pattern
02:15 < mnemoc> i don't get the segfault :(
02:15 < mnemoc> nzg: can you give me your config files?
02:15 < nzg> yep
02:16 < nzg> dcc?
02:16 < mnemoc> ok
02:17 < axion> mnemoc: i get the seg fault without a config file
02:18 < mnemoc> new config?
02:18 < axion> yeah, cant create a new config
02:19 < nzg> btw, lazyfs seems to be broken in trunk
02:20 < mnemoc> axion: rm -rf src/; ./scripts/Config -cfg foo -oldconfig
02:20 < mnemoc> yeah, i got the segfault
02:21 < axion> i'm compiling a new config with -nobashmod
02:21 < nzg> lazyfs and at76c503a refused to compile their postlinux stuff
02:21 < axion> going to sleep now
02:21 < axion> g'night
02:21 < nzg> gn8 axion
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02:29 < nzg> re
02:30 < mnemoc> Config is screaming for a rewrite
02:31 < nzg> i just look at it as a black-box
02:32 < mnemoc> i have rewritten some parts, but keeping the design
02:32 < nzg> i'm not firm enough with shell-scripts to fiddle around with that stuff i think
02:34 < mnemoc> i guess i'll have to do it :\
02:35 < nzg> wasn't there something about rewrite in c/c++?
02:36 < mnemoc> T2 3.0
02:36 < mnemoc> probably using LUA
02:36 < nzg> LUA?
02:36 < mnemoc> embedable scripting language
02:36 < nzg> with that i think i will be more helpful
02:37 < mnemoc> very extendable, easy and light
02:37 < mnemoc> you know lua?
02:37 < mnemoc> take a look into misc/lua
02:38 < nzg> i think i read the name, when i researched scripting stuff for my last employer, but in the end i had to embed php
02:38 * mnemoc hate php
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02:40 < nzg> i hate it too, its source more that the language though
02:41 < nzg> if you want to write a binding to php, you have to figure evereything out yourself by reading tons of sourcecode of existing bindings and modules
02:43 < nzg> but there are Terry Prattchet quotes(but no helpful comments) in the source so you have something to laugh
02:45 < mnemoc> :)
02:49 < nzg> hm, the concept of using some stack-thing to pass information is interesting
02:50 * nzg bookmarking lua.org
02:50 < nzg> i shall have a more intensive look at it
02:51 < mnemoc> there is a free book on line
02:51 < nzg> vmware is btw a funny thing
02:52 < nzg> the only-thing that needs to be compiled are the small kernel-modules
02:52 < mnemoc> when will you package it?
02:52 < nzg> the user will have to run the vmware-config.pl anyway
02:53 < nzg> within the next two weeks if i won't get hit by a lighting bolt *g*
02:53 < CIA-2> amery * r14279 /trunk/scripts/Config: * improved Config to accept -oldconfig only for old configs, stoping typos.
02:53 < mnemoc> :)
02:54 < nzg> i'm still diggin trough various existing .conf files and the vmware delivered scripts to see what can be automated
02:55 < nzg> it is possible to submit a module to vmware iirc
02:55 < nzg> so they could submit it in their package as well, but on second thought thats useless
02:56 < mnemoc> backup-ing or backing up?
02:57 < nzg> backing up
02:57 < nzg> is better english
02:57 < nzg> but backuping is more close to the original sense
02:57 < mnemoc> package register itself as 3rd-party-module-provider, and linux* builds those packages inside linux* context using postlinux.conf instead of pkg.conf
02:58 < nzg> yep
02:58 < mnemoc> nzg: so which do you suggest?
02:58 < nzg> for vmware?
02:58 < mnemoc> backuping or backing up? :)
02:59 * nzg confused
02:59 < mnemoc> for vmware there are no many alternatives
02:59 < mnemoc> in fact, only 1 if you decide to package it
02:59 < nzg> yep
03:00 < nzg> and some shifting the built modules around so vmware-config.pl repports "found module foo which loads nicely into running kernel"
03:02 < nzg> but what do you mean with backuping?
03:02 < nzg> and building a module
03:02 < mnemoc> Config will do a backup of old config
03:02 < mnemoc> and i want to echo something
03:02 < nzg> ah
03:03 < nzg> hm Backuping current config... looks imo better than Backing up current config oder Backing current config up
03:03 < nzg> so Backuping i sugest
03:04 < mnemoc> thanks :)
03:05 < nzg> hm, according to my Oxford Dict, there is no backuping
03:05 < nzg> *g*
03:06 < mnemoc> that's expectable ,-)
03:07 < nzg> it knows "back up" 3) (computing) a copy of a file, program for use in case original is lost or damaged
03:07 < nzg> spelling mistakes introduced by me
03:10 < nzg> so, i'm retiring now
03:10 < mnemoc> gn8 nzg
03:10 < nzg> it can only be minutes until my dad switches the router off
03:10 < nzg> gn8 mnemoc
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03:22 < CIA-2> amery * r14280 /trunk/scripts/Config: * improved Config to backup config/$config/* on src/$config/backup/ on start, not yet restored but at least it's there
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04:18 < CIA-2> amery * r14281 /trunk/scripts/ (Config config-functions.in config.in): * defeatured Config to not preprocess/regenerate scripts/config.in, and do clean caching instead.
04:42 < mnemoc> bingo!
04:42 < mnemoc> './scripts/Create-PkgList i686' <--- segfault
04:42 < mnemoc> i686 is not a valid arch
04:42 < sparc-kly> mnemoc vete a domir.
04:43 < mnemoc> so ./scripts/Create-PkgList doesn't return the expected data
04:43 * mnemoc slaps sparc-kly
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04:56 < CIA-2> amery * r14282 /trunk/scripts/Create-PkgList:
04:56 < CIA-2> * changed Create-PkgList to error on stderr, so this is not confused with good output (segfault on Config solved)
04:56 < CIA-2> * improved Create-PkgList error message to say if the given arch is invalid
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05:00 < mnemoc> rxr_: scripts/Config:140:arch=`uname -m | sed -e 's/i3.86/x86/' -e 's/ppc/powerpc/' -e 's/_64/-64/'` <--- this indirectly was producing a segfault on trunk's Config
05:03 < mnemoc> 14258 rene arch=`uname -m | sed -e 's/i3.86/x86/' -e 's/ppc/powerpc/' -e 's/_64/-64/'` <--- shame on you :)
05:04 < mnemoc> i686 is not converted to x86, so Create-PkgList fails
05:05 < mnemoc> and yes, we need to make a good helper for this
05:10 < CIA-2> amery * r14283 /trunk/scripts/Config: * fixed typo on r14258, when setting initial SDECFG_ARCH on Config (fix segfault on Config)
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06:24 < mnemoc> time to go to bed.... gn8 ,-)
06:24 < mnemoc> :w
06:24 < mnemoc> oops
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09:56 < valentin> moin
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10:09 < LMJ> moin valentin
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10:19 < valentin> moin LMJ
10:31 < rxr_> re
10:31 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:31 < rxr> damn - s.th. is b0rke with the X server here on susan's geode ...
10:32 * Stelz is back (gone 10:12:34)
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10:53 < axion> well...i give up. i'll wait till 2.2 is stable to use t2
10:54 < LMJ> moin rxr and axion
10:56 < axion> moin
10:57 < rxr> hi axion
10:58 < rxr> axion: can you repaste the ISO url?
10:58 < rxr> my girlfriends train was quite late yesterday, nearly an hour, thus not much time for computer tinkery left yesterday evening :-(
11:00 < axion> rxr: sure...i tried building from scratch twice but it's pretty inconsistent where it errors
11:00 < axion> http://axion.yi.org/t2_cd1.iso
11:01 < rxr> axion: I thought your real error was that the ISO did no work out ?
11:01 < rxr> where does it error out in addition to the broken iso ?
11:01 < axion> yep
11:02 < axion> well i got a a newer trunk and sysvinit failed...then perl failed another time
11:03 < valentin> LOL:
11:03 < axion> the iso is the farthest i've been yet
11:03 < valentin> seen some html code with a douzend copies of following comment:
11:03 < valentin>
11:03 < rxr> valentin: yes
11:03 < rxr> valentin: that is a feature - it redirect to some M$ help page or search page for 404
11:04 < rxr> a long 404 does circumvent this
11:04 < axion> i have the sysvinit error handy...
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11:04 < rxr> so it IE displays the error instread of a M$-friendly smart redirect (or so)
11:04 < rxr> axion: feel free to paste
11:05 < axion> cp: cannot create regular file `/root/trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium4-generic/etc/stone.d/mod_init.sh': No such file or directory
11:06 < rxr> h
11:06 < rxr> hm even
11:06 < axion> thats the first and only error
11:08 < mipe> rxr: have you had a chance to look at the libstdc++ problems on trunk?
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11:10 < rxr> mipe: nope - collected susan and slept - give me some minutes
11:11 < mipe> rxr: no hurry... i'm just re-checking it myself too
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11:11 < mipe> libstdc++.la does lots of some ../lib/libstdc++.so stuff
11:11 < mipe> does
11:11 < mipe> *does contain*
11:12 < rxr> there are two .la, now ?
11:12 < rxr> one lin lib and the other in lib64 ?
11:12 < mipe> for 32bit and 64bit yes
11:13 < mipe> thats the source of our problem?
11:14 < rxr> no necessary, it worked in the past
11:15 < rxr> I suspect some recent change such as libtool update be the cause
11:15 < rxr> did you already tried with downdated libtool ?
11:15 < mipe> nope, i didnt
11:15 < axion> how many bash scripters are working on t2?
11:15 < rxr> karasz tried to downdate I think - but it did not appear to be much help
11:16 < mipe> do you remember the -r tags for it?
11:16 < rxr> mipe: ouhm
11:16 < mipe> svn merge -r tag
11:19 < mipe> ah found it
11:20 < rxr> 16:45 < rxr> svn merge -r14230:14228 .
11:20 < mipe> yep, but why it skipped libtool.conf on me
11:20 < rxr> need to scrollback a lot
11:20 < rxr> but I found out that mnemoc did a hell lot of work and plit up the sysfiles package ...
11:20 * rxr slaps menmoc ...
11:20 < rxr> mnemoc: I wanted to release a rc of trunk in january ...
11:21 < axion> hehe
11:21 < rxr> mnemoc: guess you try hard to get some more distance between 2.1.1 and 2.2.0 ...
11:21 < valentin> hi rxr
11:21 < rxr> hi valentin l
11:21 < rxr> valentin: how is Emerge -system on the new athlon doing ?
11:21 < axion> hi valentin
11:21 < mipe> hmm, damm, it skipped libtoo.conf on merge
11:21 < valentin> hm, i need a second vga cable
11:22 < valentin> doing the svn checkout right now
11:22 < rxr> valentin: ?
11:22 < valentin> why ?
11:22 < rxr> just so
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11:22 < valentin> there was some moisturre inside the bags, so i decided not to turn on the machine when i got home
11:23 < valentin> and i didn't want to start the build before i went to sleep
11:23 < rxr> axion: the initramfs is pretty empty on your iso
11:23 < rxr> axion: likely the cause why it does panic
11:23 < axion> rxr: hmm\
11:23 < axion> rxr: i never used a initramfs before...did i do something wrong?
11:23 < rxr> axion: the initrd generation for the installer does need cpio and modinfo on the system you build on
11:24 * valentin wondering if there is a computer store nearby where i can buy such a cable...
11:24 < axion> i see
11:24 < rxr> axion: you did nothing wrong
11:24 < rxr> axion: I wanted to change the generation to impose less dependencies on the build box anyway
11:24 < rxr> that is only add files, not regenerate the whole initrd
11:25 < axion> yeah
11:25 < rxr> axion: can you take a look if the initrd inside the sandbox looks better?
11:25 < rxr> that is in:
11:25 < rxr> build/your-config-id/boot/initrd*
11:25 < rxr> the size should be about 3MB or so
11:25 < axion> rxr: i scrapped the whole yuletide trunk
11:25 < rxr> on your CD you have 20 bytes ...
11:25 < rxr> axion: ouhm
11:25 < rxr> axion: ok
11:26 < rxr> well - i can take a look myself decompressing your linux26 package ...
11:26 < axion> ok
11:26 < rxr> axion: the new build errors might be due mnemoc changes
11:26 < valentin> rxr: when doing in-system-merge, is there any effect when choosing livecd instead of install ?
11:26 < rxr> oehm
11:26 < rxr> not really
11:26 < rxr> why woud you select live-cd instead of install ?
11:26 < rxr> valentin: why do you need another vga cable ?
11:27 < rxr> axion: the no such file thing is due to last nights changes
11:27 < valentin> because i want to use my ibook while building kerstins new machine
11:27 < rxr> axion: I could do a build today (does not need much time on some fast box) and fix this up
11:27 < rxr> and also tweak the initrd generation to not have so many host deps
11:28 < rxr> so you would have a buildable trunk tonight or tomorrow mornign
11:28 < axion> that'd be nice
11:28 < rxr> valentin: ? can you just hook the box up to kersins monitor?
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11:29 < rxr> instead of diving thru the snow for a VGA cable you do not need otherwise ?
11:29 < rxr> just an idea ...
11:29 < valentin> yes, but why ? i have the machine attached to cable right now
11:29 < valentin> it is in my room
11:29 < rxr> if you want to hunt a new cable I'll not stop you
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11:30 < valentin> rxr: it is not too urgent, so i do not have to get one today
11:31 < valentin> but sooner or later it would be nice to have one - to use with grum or the U30 for example
11:31 < valentin> so, download running...
11:32 * valentin shower
11:32 < rxr> u30 needs a 13w3 cable anyway
11:32 < rxr> ok - well - or an adapter
11:32 < rxr> axions initrd looks ok
11:32 < rxr> so it is only post build regen
11:37 < CIA-2> rene * r14284 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/ (00-minimal.in benchmark.in): * fixed sysfiles split typo: mknitrd -> mkinitrd
11:38 < rxr> the new mkinitrd package will likely cause a lot of google hit for people seeking help, info, whatsoever about initrd stuff ...
11:38 < rxr> ,-)
11:42 < karasz> moin all
11:43 < karasz> Total : 997
11:43 < karasz> Built Fine : 896
11:43 < karasz> Broken Builds : 101
11:43 < karasz> Pending Builds : 0
11:43 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/regressions.html
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12:01 < mipe> hmm, whats up with mkinitrd package?
12:02 < mipe> cant auto-detect srctar for package
12:02 < mipe> but theres autoextract=0, why it even trys to extract it, since theres no srctar in desc
12:08 < mipe> hmm, so there needs to be [D] tag in .desc? since mkinitrd.conf isnt processed...
12:45 < karasz> re hi
12:47 < karasz> `Invalid configuration `x86_64-t2-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-t2' not recognized`
12:54 < mnemoc> moin
12:54 < mnemoc> rxr: did you experience any trouble due to my last changes?
12:55 < mnemoc> oops... yes, srctar=none is needed, minute
12:56 < karasz> moin mnemoc
12:57 < mnemoc> moin karasz
12:58 < karasz> i made a svn up because of that uname -m thingie...
12:58 < karasz> i guess config guess didn't returned korekt stuff
12:59 < mnemoc> Config still broken for you?
12:59 < karasz> was
12:59 < karasz> yesterday, now i will try again after svn up
13:00 < karasz> but i am still concerned with the libs ...
13:00 < mnemoc> what libs?
13:00 < karasz> if you want there is a regression
13:00 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/regression/regressions.html
13:00 < karasz> pretty awfull
13:00 < mnemoc> very awful
13:01 < mnemoc> karasz: does minimal build fine to you?
13:02 < karasz> didn't tried minimal....
13:02 < karasz> but there is a good thing
13:02 < karasz> all thosse fails are due to 1 or at most 2 causes
13:03 < karasz> i fwe sort that out we have a system building fine
13:04 < rxr> mnemoc: no idea yet
13:04 < rxr> niternet went off here at susan - had to do other stuff last hour
13:04 < rxr> mnemoc: you can be sure I fix up every thing I encounter on the way
13:05 < karasz> moin rxr
13:05 < karasz> mnemoc, iirc you made some update to Config to use uname -m right?
13:05 < rxr> mnemoc: let me do the uname2arch and arch2uname
13:05 < mnemoc> rxr: the changes were not that big, and waiting for 2.3 was not justified in my own
13:06 < rxr> mnemoc: juck - all fine
13:06 < rxr> except even more regressions to fix
13:06 < mnemoc> rxr: remember functions.in != config-functions.in
13:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I know
13:07 < mnemoc> i'll also fix regressions :(
13:08 < mnemoc> ABORT=9 is good for that
13:11 < karasz> to Create-ErrList i must use -delete to get rid of .err files?
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13:12 < rxr> In copy-out mode, cpio copies files into an archive.
13:12 < rxr> In copy-in mode, cpio copies files out of an archive
13:12 < rxr> ?
13:12 < rxr> that sounds a bit mixed
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13:13 < mnemoc> o.o
13:13 < karasz> to Create-ErrList i must use -delete to get rid of .err files?
13:13 < rxr> mnemoc: guessfrom 197x when someone heavily drugged hacked the first cpio
13:16 < CIA-2> amery * r14285 /trunk/package/base/stone/ (stone.conf stone.desc):
13:16 < CIA-2> * moved stone before sysvinit
13:16 < CIA-2> * fixed stone by setting srctar=none (no [D] to autodetect)
13:17 < mnemoc> hehe
13:17 < mnemoc> karasz: -delete to remove logfile, -rmeove to remove also the installed files
13:17 < karasz> mnemoc, mkinitrd fails because cannot find srctar
13:22 < rxr> hm
13:23 < karasz> `Can't auto-detect srctar for package 'mkinitrd'!`
13:23 < rxr> screen again f*cked up
13:23 < rxr> maybe I should, after my miniip, write a miniscreen
13:23 < rxr> after glibc screen is one of the uglied pieces of c**p
13:24 < CIA-2> amery * r14286 /trunk/package/base/rocknet/ (rocknet.conf rocknet.desc):
13:24 < CIA-2> * moved rocknet before dhcpd
13:24 < CIA-2> * fixed rocknet by setting srctar=none (no [D] to autodetect), and small typos
13:26 < CIA-2> amery * r14287 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/ (initrdinit.sh mkinitrd.conf): * fixed mkinitrd by setting srctar=none (no [D] to autodetect)
13:27 < rxr> 2.2 will be so advanced ...
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13:30 < karasz> i started a minimal with the same configs as my desktop
13:31 < mnemoc> == 09:28:55 =[2]=> Building base/gcc [4.0.2 2.2.0-alpha].
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13:40 < karasz> == 15:28:33 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [4.0.2 2.2.0-alpha].
13:41 < mnemoc> :)
13:45 < karasz> == 12/30/05 15:36:27 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc.
13:48 < mnemoc> go karasz go
13:48 < karasz> mnemoc, do not get too excited because it is a minimal
13:48 < karasz> and it will fail
13:48 < karasz> due to libs kriss-krossin'
13:49 < karasz> rxr you may want to take a look at /target/desktop/desktop.txt ;)
13:50 < mnemoc> first get a minimal, then... the sky^W^Wdesktop
13:50 < karasz> 15:40:31 =[1]=> Building base/glibc [20051128 2.2.0-alpha].
13:51 < karasz> mnemoc, ack
13:51 < karasz> thou i only build minimal for debugin' purposes...
13:51 < karasz> hmmm... no music
13:51 < mnemoc> mplayer :)
13:52 < karasz> how can a man work in silence?
13:52 < karasz> nope
13:52 < karasz> i moved my sound card to the new machine
13:52 < karasz> which builds right now
13:52 < mnemoc> :)
13:53 < karasz> arghhh... i guess i will start singin...
13:53 * karasz is polishing his throat... beware all
13:53 < mnemoc> i have enough noise at the office to add music
13:54 * mnemoc run
13:54 < karasz> cooler music here too :D
13:54 < karasz> mnemoc, you better :D
13:54 < karasz> when i was in 2nd grade i was thrown out of coire
13:55 < mnemoc> o.o
13:56 * karasz gives mnemoc a pair of googles
13:56 < mnemoc> :)
14:02 < rxr> re
14:04 < karasz> rxr you may want to take a look at /target/desktop/desktop.txt ;)
14:04 < mnemoc> brb
14:04 < rxr> yeah
14:04 < rxr> or remove it
14:04 < karasz> whatever
14:05 < rxr> I already removed the README.txt from our linux* packages
14:05 < karasz> 15:58:00 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
14:05 < karasz> 18 mins glibc stage [1]
14:05 < karasz> not too bad i guess
14:06 < karasz> rxr my desktop build was desastruous so i started a minimal
14:08 < rxr> yeah lib64 regressions plus mnemocs nightly changes I fear
14:13 < karasz> rxr do you have a www gui?
14:13 < rxr> nope
14:13 < rxr> X is rebuilding on the not too fast AMD Geode
14:13 < karasz> anyway ltconfig gets confused by the X86_64-t2 string...
14:14 < karasz> so apart from being unable to read libs and this confusion only the font stuff is preventing build
14:14 < rxr> karasz: I'll back home into my "office" in some minutes - I'll see in the hammer buid there then
14:15 < karasz> i was just spreading the news...
14:15 < rxr> karasz: yep - thanks ,-)
14:17 < zod> i want to build a small distribution that should run in a ramdisk - is t2 the right tool for this job?
14:17 < karasz> :D
14:18 < LMJ> t2 is THE tool ;)
14:18 < karasz> yes zod
14:19 < zod> LMJ: for everything? :D
14:19 < rxr> zod: nearly everthing .-)
14:20 < LMJ> you can even make a big fat linux if you want ;)
14:20 < LMJ> rxr, mnemoc , karasz, madtux and all other users, gtg for now, i will be back in 2006, i wish you guys a HAPPY NEW YEAR by advance and thanks for the whole work done, and the next who will come
14:20 < madtux> same to u LMJ
14:20 < karasz> same to u SerWou
14:20 < LMJ> thx ;)
14:21 < rxr> LMJ: thanks, wish you a happy new year eve as well - have fun - cu in 2006 ,-)!
14:21 < LMJ> gutes Jahr
14:21 < LMJ> ?
14:22 < rxr> .-) Danke.
14:23 < rxr> I have no de-fr dictionary handy to reply properly :-(
14:24 < LMJ> btw, i'm going to start a network admin formation during 6 months in january, from what i saw, they mostly use Debian... sometimes Mandriva :-(((
14:24 < LMJ> what a crap
14:25 < rxr> hehe - I can imagine
14:25 < zod> rxr: fr? bonne anne? :o
14:25 < LMJ> i'm still a linux newbie, but i went to teach them how to get a real Linux
14:25 < LMJ> Bonne année !
14:25 < LMJ> yes
14:25 < LMJ> Thanks
14:25 < rxr> have fun spreading the t2 drug there
14:25 < LMJ> LMAO
14:25 < LMJ> i already started the flamewar in the mailing list
14:25 < LMJ> LMAO
14:25 < madtux> hehe
14:26 < LMJ> i'm away now
14:26 < LMJ> see you guys
14:27 < zod> byebye
14:27 < mnemoc> re
14:27 < LMJ> moin mnemoc & see you in 2006
14:27 < mnemoc> cu serwou
14:28 < mnemoc> rxr: current target auto-registration use $target/version.txt | head -n 1 for description..... should i use $target.txt instead ?
14:28 < rxr> puh
14:29 < rxr> in fact I do not care too much
14:29 < rxr> version.txt does not apply to architecture/*/ too well
14:29 < rxr> maybe %/%.txt then for both to share a pattern ?
14:29 < mnemoc> architecture use config.in:#Description: if available, and just $arch if not
14:30 < mnemoc> i wasn't sure about adding a new faile for architectures...
14:31 < CIA-2> rene * r14288 /trunk/target/install/build_initrd.sh:
14:31 < CIA-2> * reworked install/build_initrd.sh to only append to the existing
14:31 < CIA-2> initrd, so we do not have to duplicate the whole module info
14:31 < CIA-2> extraction logic there, also removed modinfo and friends dependency
14:31 < CIA-2> from the build host
14:31 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - ic
14:32 < rxr> mnemoc: do as you see fit ,-)
14:32 < rxr> mnemoc: I convert the livecd mkinitrd cruft likewise
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14:32 < rxr> when I'm back at my home - cu in 20m or so
14:33 < mnemoc> currently $target/version.txt is dump to $root/etc/VERSION
14:33 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - then just leave it so i would say
14:33 < rxr> cu
14:34 < mnemoc> cu rxr ,-)
14:34 < MisterN> hi
14:34 < mnemoc> hi MisterN
15:03 < karasz> damn
15:03 < karasz> another server died
15:03 < karasz> x.x
15:04 < mnemoc> what os? :)
15:10 < mipe> hmmmm
15:11 < mipe> theres build/desktop-*-desktop/ and build/desktop-*-desktopetc/
15:11 < mipe> *etc dir is empty
15:11 < mnemoc> uhm
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15:17 < nzg> moin
15:19 < mnemoc> wb nzg
15:19 < nzg> moin mnemoc
15:20 < rxr> re
15:21 < nzg> moin rene
15:23 < rxr> mnemoc: yep - that ...etc/ is a regression from you last night mods I think
15:24 < rxr> see that too that is ...
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15:24 < rxr> osx customer again called me while beeing in public transport ..
15:24 < rxr> my oh my - doomed commercial crap apps
15:24 < rxr> one is violating the TWAIN standard more than the other
15:25 < rxr> really wonder what drugs companies like Adobe hand out to their coder slaves to produce such junk
15:25 < mnemoc> $root$sysconfdir i gues..
15:25 < rxr> especially with Phtotoshop having another TWAIN code flow thatn Acrobat ...
15:25 < rxr> and Phtoshop works (whith quirk on my driver side) where Acrocra does not ...
15:26 < rxr> Acrocrap that should have read ...
15:26 < karasz> damn, damn, damn i hate when it happens
15:28 * rxr hates commercial, closed sorce software junk, that is not review, debug nor fixable ...
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15:28 < mnemoc> mkdir -p $root/$sysconfdir <--- stone ....
15:28 < mnemoc> sysconfdir=etc/stone.d
15:29 < rxr> in addition to no response when they are told what they do wrong
15:29 < mnemoc> uhm.... but sysconfdir sshouldn't be prfixed..
15:29 < mnemoc> rxr: that's usual
15:29 < rxr> Acrobat for Macintosh is so broken TWAIN-wise that I wonder if any driver will respond to it with image data ...
15:29 < mnemoc> they should have workarounds i guess
15:30 < rxr> and since there are nearly zero driver for document scanners I fear they have barely tested ther crap code they trow on me
15:30 < rxr> it is patetic that neither Acrobat nor Iris does even work with the Apple example TWAIN source that delivers back an image file's data ...
15:34 < rxr> `- and why I avoid anything but t2 ...
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15:40 [ _Ragnar_] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ zod]
15:40 [ axion ] [ jsaw ] [ madtux ] [ mtr ] [ Stelz ]
15:40 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ valentin]
15:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
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15:46 < morfoh> moin
15:46 < rxr> welcome morfoh !
15:46 < morfoh> hi rxr ;)
15:46 < mnemoc> moin morfoh
15:46 < morfoh> moin mnemoc ;)
15:47 < rxr> so
15:47 < rxr> finally
15:47 < rxr> found why morfoh was hilighted
15:47 < rxr> somehow it got set as:
15:47 < rxr> 15:46 Highlights:
15:47 < rxr> 15:46 1 morfoh
15:47 < morfoh> rxr: oops ... still the problem ? :
15:48 < rxr> yes - appeared to be an irssi feature - however that got enabled ...
15:48 < rxr> found it my looking into .irssi/* or so
15:49 * morfoh wonders how his name can leak into rxr's ./irssi ...
15:49 * rxr also ..
15:49 < rxr> maybe morfoh tested the latest remote exploit of the week?
15:50 < morfoh> rxr: hmmmmm .... perhaps ... :p
15:51 < Baldzius> :)
15:51 < Baldzius> moin all :)
15:51 < morfoh> moin Baldzius
15:52 < Baldzius> moin morfoh :)
15:52 < CIA-2> rene * r14289 /trunk/ (misc/target/initrd.in target/install/build_initrd.sh):
15:52 < CIA-2> * further improved / cleaned initrd extension for install/, introduced
15:52 < CIA-2> a generic target function for that (misc/target/initrd.in) and also
15:52 < CIA-2> only generate the files once, thus for targets with multiple images
15:52 < CIA-2> this saves additional CPU cycles
15:54 < karasz> good
15:54 < karasz> build failed also
15:54 < karasz> what is happenin' today?
15:54 < karasz> everything is failin'?
15:55 < rxr> karasz: well - aside lib64 issue mnemoc did this extra changes tonight
15:55 < karasz> hmm i made a svn up before build
15:56 < rxr> this changes have not yet settled down yet it appear
15:56 < valentin> re
15:56 < rxr> if you want have an easy going better give those changes 24h before trying again
15:56 < valentin> someone recently updated htop and forgot the checksum ?
15:57 < karasz> Assembler messages:
15:57 < karasz> FATAL: can't create bin/echo.o: No such file or directory
15:57 < Baldzius> valentin: oops
15:57 < Baldzius> cheking ..
15:57 < mnemoc> uhm
15:57 < mnemoc> == 11:57:27 =[5]=> Building database/bdb [4.3.28 2.2.0-alpha].
15:58 < mnemoc> no problems yet
15:58 < mnemoc> no unfixed problems i mean
15:59 < rxr> how good it feels not to be the only one causing regressions ... ,-)
16:00 < mnemoc> i had to
16:00 < mnemoc> this change shall be done before 2.2.0-rc1
16:00 < rxr> aje innovator mnemoc
16:01 < mnemoc> that was just cleanup :)
16:05 < CIA-2> rene * r14291 /trunk/target/ (install/build_initrd.sh livecd/build_initrd.sh):
16:05 < CIA-2> * adatped the livecd target post-processing for latest
16:05 < CIA-2> architecture/%/boot code-drop and use expand_initrd, thus not x86
16:05 < CIA-2> hardcoded and way shorter / cleaner, now
16:05 < CIA-2> * further cleaned install/build_initrd.sh on the way
16:05 < CIA-2> aldas * r14290 /trunk/package/base/htop/htop.desc: * fixed htop's cksum, sorry :(
16:05 < Baldzius> valentin: sorry :(
16:05 < rxr> install/build_initrd.sh | 5 -
16:05 < rxr> livecd/build_initrd.sh | 121 ++++++++----------------------------------------
16:05 < rxr> 2 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 103 deletions(-)
16:05 < mnemoc> oh
16:06 < rxr> mnemoc: have you scrolled thru the new install stuff ?
16:06 * rxr wonders if it is worth building a powerpc livecd just for the fun of it ...
16:06 < mnemoc> not deeply
16:06 < mnemoc> what about 2.1/desktop :)
16:06 < rxr> technically this should work now - modulo typos in the code
16:07 < rxr> mnemoc: I review gcc breakage over an hour today - will continue that now
16:07 < mnemoc> p4 and pmmx isos are ready, x86-64 and ppc missing :)
16:08 < rxr> well - x64-64 only misses a rebuild if you want the version implanted correctl ...
16:08 < rxr> should I do that or upload ?
16:08 < valentin> Baldzius: maybe the file is broken and you did all right ?
16:08 < rxr> valentin: svn diff -r ... would show if the checksum was updated with the version
16:09 < mnemoc> rxr: you could fix by hand etc/{SDE-,}VERSION and rebuild t2-src
16:09 < Baldzius> valentin: no, it seems it was chmsum of old version, fixed :)
16:09 < rxr> valentin: and whether someome implanted a backdoor into the tarball later on
16:09 < rxr> mnemoc: the meta data in /var/adm would still show the post tag build versin
16:09 < mnemoc> 2.1.1 will have to be 'tears eve' instead of 'black peter' i guess :(
16:09 < mnemoc> rxr: that doesn't matter much :)
16:10 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm
16:10 < rxr> mnemoc: tears even vs. black peter what ?
16:10 < mnemoc> black peter is a classic santa' helper
16:10 < mnemoc> tears eve is new year ,-)
16:12 < mnemoc> as you name 2.2.0-epsilon yilitide
16:12 < mnemoc> i thought about 'black peter' for 2.1.1.... but xmas passed 'long' time ago
16:13 < rxr> mnemoc: well, ...
16:13 < rxr> could be named with some colorful name for firework
16:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: but "tears eve" is knocking on the door ... very quickly
16:13 < rxr> or spacling wine
16:13 < rxr> champagne or so ?
16:13 < rxr> mnemoc: where should I put uname helpers in ?
16:14 < rxr> introduce some third generic-functions.in used for both config and build ?
16:14 < mnemoc> that would be nice
16:14 < mnemoc> core-functions.in ?
16:14 < rxr> mnemoc: ok
16:14 < valentin> mnemoc: peter burned himself with firework, so he is black on new years eve
16:14 < mnemoc> hehe
16:16 < mnemoc> drunk black peter
16:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: with some alcohol he is burning better
16:17 < mnemoc> black peter on the rocks
16:17 < morfoh> :)
16:17 < mnemoc> any cool 'new year' drink?
16:17 < mnemoc> champagne is boring
16:21 < owl> moin
16:21 < karasz> moin owl
16:21 < karasz> even morfoh
16:21 < owl> hi karasz ;)
16:22 < karasz> Assembler messages:
16:22 < karasz> FATAL: can't create bin/echo.o: No such file or directory
16:22 < karasz> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-gcc -pipe -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -c mknod.c -o bin/mknod.o
16:22 < karasz> echo.c: In function 'main':
16:22 < karasz> echo.c:47: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'interpret_esc' differ in signedness
16:22 < karasz> make: *** [bin/echo.o] Error 2
16:22 < nzg> moin owl
16:23 < mnemoc> karasz: try adding [F] NOPARALLEL
16:23 < karasz> first thing after got my dead server online again ;(
16:31 < karasz> nope
16:31 < karasz> NOPARALLEL didn't helped either
16:32 < mnemoc> hook_add premake 2 'mkdir bin' :)
16:35 < CIA-2> rene * r14292 /trunk/scripts/ (Config config-functions.in core-functions.in):
16:35 < CIA-2> * craeted a new scripts/core-functions.in with shared functions for
16:35 < CIA-2> config and build (var_{append,remove,..} and friends
16:35 < CIA-2> * added new uname2arch and arch2uname helpers for translation between
16:35 < CIA-2> t2 architectures and the short, mangled forms uname does use
16:35 < CIA-2> * converted Config to use the new uname2arch helper
16:36 < karasz> mnemoc, sorry but i am stupid again
16:39 < rxr> karasz: why?
16:39 < rxr> still no go? same error?
16:40 < karasz> no rxr
16:40 < karasz> now it is abt sysvinit
16:40 < karasz> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/src/t2-trunk/build/minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-em64t-generic/etc/stone.d/mod_init.sh': No such file or directory
16:40 < axion> i got the same thing....svn up fixes it
16:40 < karasz> i thought that is embutils again
16:41 < karasz> but i can't think straight now
16:41 < valentin> what is that linuxmm patch about ?
16:41 < rxr> karasz: miss your music ?
16:41 < karasz> nope
16:41 < rxr> valentin: linuxmm patch what ?
16:41 < rxr> valentin: on Download ?
16:41 < karasz> trying to revive a dead server
16:41 < rxr> valentin: it is for the linux26mm package ...
16:41 < valentin> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.15-rc5/2.6.15-rc5-mm3/2.6.15-rc5-mm3.bz2
16:42 < rxr> valentin: we'll remove linux24 on trunk soon and I added the state of the art andrew mortan mm tree as alternative for the boring linux26 ...
16:42 < rxr> that are two packages, you get the best of the two worlds
16:42 < mnemoc> karasz: are you at HEAD ?
16:42 < karasz> trunk
16:42 < karasz> as i know it
16:42 < mnemoc> yes, trunk:HEAD ?
16:42 < karasz> ?
16:42 < rxr> karasz: hint svn up
16:42 < karasz> i did aprox 30 mins or 1 hour ago
16:43 < karasz> i will again
16:43 < axion> karasz: it was fixed not too long ago
16:43 < karasz> ok
16:44 < karasz> Updated to revision 14292.
16:44 < karasz> now -oldconfig
16:44 < mnemoc> ack
16:44 < karasz> build again...
16:44 < karasz> damn i could use 4 hands and at least 3 heads...
16:44 < CIA-2> rene * r14293 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg Build-Tools Emerge-Pkg functions.in):
16:44 < CIA-2> * adapted scripts/functions to include the new core-functions.in,
16:44 < CIA-2> accordingly
16:44 < CIA-2> * unified inclusion of the scripts/functions.in
16:44 < CIA-2> * removed duplicate inclusion in Emerge
16:44 < mnemoc> rsync: failed to open "/home/mnemoc/ftp/incoming/mnemoc/t2-desktop-2.1.1-pmmx/t2-desktop-2.1.1-pmmx_cd1.iso", continuing: Permission denied (13)
16:45 < mnemoc> uhm....
16:45 < karasz> sysvinit built fine
16:45 < CIA-2> rene * r14294 /trunk/package/base/cdrtools/cdrtools.conf: * fixed cdrtools to use the new arch2uname helper
16:45 < rxr> mnemoc: gsmp ?
16:46 < rxr> mnemoc: HD filled ?
16:46 < mnemoc> uhm
16:46 < mipe> so, me trying trunk desktop build with libtool 1.5.23a
16:47 < mipe> hopefully it fixes something and can diff the fix from it
16:47 < mnemoc> /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/part1 40207856 24401728 15806128 61% /home/public/ftp
16:48 < mnemoc> ---------- 1 mnemoc external 55050240 Dec 30 16:46 t2-desktop-2.1.1-pmmx_cd1.iso
16:48 < mnemoc> .oO
16:48 < mipe> but now for ice skating, hopefully when i get back its progressed up to point where usually errors come up
16:49 < Baldzius> hm something strange with htop, i thought i left chmsum of old version, but i didn't and i remember that i commited it after i builded, i always do that
16:49 < Baldzius> maybe rxr was right: valentin: and whether someome implanted a backdoor into the tarball later on
16:52 < Baldzius> latest days i noticed that there's something wrong with files from sourceforge: rssh and other package i can't remember now
16:53 < mnemoc> Baldzius: adapt misc/share/DownloadTranslatiopns accordingly
16:56 < Baldzius> no, not link, files were damaged, i got erros like -> gunzip: stdin smth about end of file
16:56 < mnemoc> outch
16:56 < rxr> puh custommer now called me latest greated iris internet software udpate fixes itself crashing and burning on our driver ...
16:56 < rxr> at least s.th.
16:56 < Baldzius> so i waited for couple of days and they got fixed
16:56 < mnemoc> rxr: warranty or new contract?
16:57 < rxr> mnemoc: well - we get per unit royalities - thus /just/ end-user hotline support ...
16:57 < mnemoc> :)
16:58 < rxr> though I can not do much when the twain client is just 100% pure f*ck ...
16:58 < CIA-2> rene * r14295 /trunk/scripts/core-functions.in: * extended uname2arch and really implemented arch2uname
17:00 < rxr> mnemoc: is is not too good, as they do not archive to sell the predicted quantities of OS X packages ...
17:00 < mnemoc> :(
17:00 < rxr> yeah - big :-(
17:01 < mnemoc> what about win32 dirvers?
17:01 < rxr> by normal meassurement the bilance of the osx driver is -20kEUR
17:01 < rxr> mnemoc: they have crshing win32 drivers ...
17:01 < rxr> and I would rather avoid getting into another platform of hell
17:01 < rxr> though they might be willing to buy win64 drivers ...
17:02 < rxr> especially when they notice they our code iw way more portable and magnitudes cleaner then their rotting win32 codebase ...
17:02 < rxr> and yes - I saw the code - not just the binary crashing ...
17:02 < mnemoc> :(
17:03 < CIA-2> rene * r14296 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/dietlibc.conf: * improved dietlibc to use the generic arch2uname helper
17:03 < rxr> mnemoc: I have no win32 in production - thus I could not care less ..
17:03 < rxr> in fact el-cheapo drivers crashing and buring is what let people migrate to linux and other open source ...
17:04 < rxr> thus I carefully avoid improving their win32 code ...
17:04 < mnemoc> otoh money is money
17:05 < rxr> they do not pay me for altering their code - and as long as they dream their driver works a bit I let them dream and rather code useful stuff
17:05 < mnemoc> :)
17:05 < mnemoc> /usr/src/t2/t2-trunk/misc/target/initrd.in: line 31: cpio: command not found <--- can this be done inside sandbox?
17:05 < rxr> hoever I would not mind if they outsource not only their osx and my free linux work but also the win* world for $$$ in higher kEUR regions ...
17:06 < mnemoc> using 99-final for example?
17:06 < rxr> mnemoc: build cpio helper in stage 0 ?
17:07 < mnemoc> thats an option
17:08 < rxr> can you patch and tes ?
17:08 < rxr> t
17:09 < mnemoc> ok
17:11 < mnemoc> same message, PATH is not prepared to run stuff from $tooldir
17:12 < mnemoc> that's the kind of stuff i think we should do on 0-99-final
17:12 < mnemoc> to keep things clean
17:13 < rxr> the path should be fixed
17:13 < rxr> e.g. we can not replace the initrd in 99-final due to shared files
17:13 < rxr> we sould have a second one and so on - that is all a bit messy
17:13 < mnemoc> uhm... right
17:13 < rxr> I would rather keep it the refactored, clean way it is right now and just get cpio and other helpers in the PATH
17:14 < rxr> e.g. if one would have to use mine or something else it would need to be in the path anyway ...
17:14 < mnemoc> $builddir/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/{bin,sbin} ?
17:16 < rxr> we formerly had s.th. there for the dietlibc diet for the linuxrc - do you remeber what code chunk that was ?
17:17 < mnemoc> it should be on 2.1
17:18 < mnemoc> 27:# Add tools.cross/diet-bin/ to path so we find our 'diet' program
17:18 < mnemoc> 28:PATH="$base/build/${SDECFG_ID}/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/diet-bin:$PATH"
17:18 < mnemoc> 29:export DIETHOME="$base/build/${SDECFG_ID}/usr/dietlibc"
17:19 < rxr> ah - so explicit ...
17:19 < rxr> hm - then do it the same for PATH again I would vote
17:19 < mnemoc> let see
17:20 < mnemoc> minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/src/t2/t2-trunk/build/minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/bin/cpio
17:20 < mnemoc> ^--- *G*
17:21 < axion> just curious...why is linux26 and all modules compiled twice?
17:23 < mnemoc> once crosscompiled and once natively
17:23 < mnemoc> # grep linux26 config/minimal/packages
17:23 < mnemoc> X -1---5---- 102.060 base linux26 2.6.15-rc6 / base/kernel KERNEL 0
17:24 < mnemoc> ^--- it's build on stage 1 and stage 5
17:24 < axion> ok
17:24 < rxr> my subnotebook needs more ram
17:24 < axion> yep, i'm on stage5 of minimal with r14292
17:24 < mnemoc> cross compilation stop after stage 1
17:25 < rxr> 512 - unified grafic memory makes it swap-a-lot during Build-Target ...
17:26 < rxr> graphic even
17:26 < _Ragnar_> ;D
17:29 < rxr> no joking
17:29 < rxr> interrupting the build with clicking on konqueror even makes xmms skip a-lot while konqueror comse out of swap ...
17:29 < rxr> annoying like hell ...
17:30 < _Ragnar_> O_O
17:30 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.frappr.com/?a=groupwidgets&gid=69370
17:30 < _Ragnar_> this is the athlon 64?
17:31 < rxr> _Ragnar_: turion
17:31 < _Ragnar_> ah ok
17:33 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: http://www.frappr.com/t2
17:34 < rxr> _Ragnar_: http://www.frappr.com/t2
17:34 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: is this like a nag screen
17:34 < _Ragnar_> ;p
17:34 < rxr> mnemoc: the minimap embedded into our frontpage ?
17:34 * _Ragnar_ does /ignore -regexp .*frappr.* * all
17:34 < _Ragnar_> ;D
17:34 < rxr> _Ragnar_: !
17:35 < rxr> _Ragnar_: dont forget to get onto F R A P P E R ! !
17:35 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
17:35 < rxr> oh
17:35 < rxr> _Ragnar_: dont forget to get onto F R A P P R ! !
17:35 < rxr> so /me annoyed _Ragnar_ enough - back to work
17:36 * _Ragnar_ grins
17:37 < _Ragnar_> doesn't like my zip code anyway
17:38 < CIA-2> rene * r14297 /trunk/package/base/ (linux-header/linux-header.conf linux24/linux-conf.in):
17:38 < CIA-2> * improved linux24/linux-conf.in to use new arch2uname helper and
17:38 < CIA-2> fixed it for powerpc* due to recent merge of those two architectures
17:38 < CIA-2> into a single arch/powerpc inside linux26
17:38 < CIA-2> * introduced seperate translation to linux-header, since the headers
17:38 < CIA-2> are older and do not yet have this powerpc merge
17:40 < rxr> _Ragnar_: good boy ,-) thanks!
17:41 < _Ragnar_> ;p
17:43 < CIA-2> rene * r14298 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.conf: * improved uclibc to use the new arch2uname helper
17:44 * _Ragnar_ giggles
17:44 < _Ragnar_> good idea
17:47 < CIA-2> rene * r14299 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.conf:
17:47 < CIA-2> * improved ruby to use the new arch2uname helper
17:47 < CIA-2> * fixed it to use lib64 on all lib64 arches, not just x86-64
17:47 < _Ragnar_> :) neat
17:47 < valentin> _Ragnar_: you live on an elementary school's playground ?
17:48 < rxr> I doubt he has adjusted his marker to be over his flat ...
17:48 < _Ragnar_> huh?
17:48 * _Ragnar_ won't
17:49 < rxr> you don't need to
17:49 < _Ragnar_> evil stalker here *points to mnemoc* :)
17:49 * rxr happy enough to have your us mark on the map ..
17:49 < _Ragnar_> ^_^
17:49 < valentin> :)
17:50 * _Ragnar_ hugs rxr
17:50 < CIA-2> rene * r14300 /trunk/package/network/ettercap/ettercap.conf:
17:50 < CIA-2> * improved ettercap to use the new arch2uname helper
17:50 < CIA-2> * fixed it to use some lib64 workaround for all lib64 arches, not
17:50 < CIA-2> just x86-64 (is it actually still needed?)
17:50 < valentin> so you live in Vista - is that where the new windows comes from ?
17:51 < _Ragnar_> no
17:51 < _Ragnar_> I wonder why the city doesn't sue M$
17:53 < CIA-2> rene * r14301 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libxml/perl-libxml.conf: * removed obsolete cpu variable assignment from perl-libxml.conf
17:53 < CIA-2> rene * r14302 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.conf: * improved ooo to use the new arch2uname helper
17:55 < karasz> re
17:55 < karasz> so far so good
17:55 < karasz> 19:31:30 =[5]=> Building base/glibc [20051128 2.2.0-alpha]
17:56 < valentin> me buying some lunch for our hnye party tomorow...
17:57 < karasz> bone chanse valentin
17:57 < rxr> damn - I hate Config tashing itself
17:57 < rxr> trashing
17:58 < _Ragnar_> fix it;)
17:59 < rxr> yeah - post 2.2.0-rc
17:59 < rxr> more important stuff to do
17:59 < karasz> libs
17:59 < karasz> ;)
18:01 < CIA-2> rene * r14303 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/util-linux.conf:
18:01 < CIA-2> * removed already marked questionable explicit ARCH setting for
18:01 < CIA-2> util-linux, it only selects optimizations in the Makefile and thus
18:01 < CIA-2> our gcc wrapper injects the wanted ones anyway - ARCH is not set
18:01 < CIA-2> to generic to make the Makefile happy (instead arch2uname translation)
18:04 < karasz> 19:56:57 =[5]=> Finished building package glibc.
18:05 < karasz> 25 mins for [5] glibc
18:05 < CIA-2> rene * r14304 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/util-linux.conf:
18:05 < CIA-2> * further simplified util-linux.conf noticing that ARCH is formed from CPU in
18:05 < CIA-2> the Makefile config, thus simply just set CPU to generic ,-)
18:05 < rxr> karasz: how many CPUs ?
18:05 < karasz> 1
18:05 < rxr> hm - that is good
18:05 < karasz> thought so
18:05 < rxr> what MHz ?
18:05 < karasz> 3.2
18:06 < karasz> GHz
18:06 < rxr> hm - my dual core 2x2GHz PowerPC64 is not much faster ..
18:06 < karasz> :D
18:06 < rxr> though, ok, many parts of the glibc build are not run in parallel - such as untar, configure and final tar ...
18:09 < CIA-2> rene * r14305 /trunk/package/filesystem/siefs/siefs.conf:
18:09 < CIA-2> * fixed siefs to enable lib64 Makefile substitution for all lib64
18:09 < CIA-2> architectures, not just x86-64, removed arch2uname need
18:09 < karasz> ^^ does that concern me?
18:10 < rxr> karasz: no
18:10 < karasz> :(
18:10 < rxr> toy package and only cleanup
18:10 < karasz> ohum
18:10 < rxr> only if you wanted to use siefs on powerpc64, mips64 or sparc64 ...
18:10 < rxr> or ia64 ...
18:10 < karasz> nope
18:11 < rxr> it is to exchange data wit siemens cell phones anyway ...
18:12 < CIA-2> rene * r14306 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/postlinux.conf:
18:12 < CIA-2> * removed complex arch_machine sustitution from madwifi and case just
18:12 < CIA-2> $arch to set a x86-64 specific makeopt
18:12 < mipe> btw. is there any general TODO list, i'd like to get my hands dirty others way too, not just testing or so
18:12 < rxr> mipe: hm - trac.t2-project.org
18:13 < rxr> or the roadmap if you want implement more interesting changes
18:13 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/roadmap.html or so
18:13 < rxr> I could flush my various TODO files on my boxes into trac if you want to have a bigger overview ,-)
18:13 < mipe> yes please :)
18:14 < rxr> the current uname related changes are just discovered grepping for possibilities
18:14 < rxr> I had no idea such crappy code was hiding in t2 ...
18:14 < rxr> that is the ones I did not convert to arch2uname but removed entierly ...
18:15 < rxr> so - and those cleanups are what grep found ...
18:16 < rxr> I think I start a fresh trunk desktop build on powerpc64 now after that many changes the last 24 hours ...
18:18 < karasz> rxr any ideea about yesterday's lib stuff?
18:18 < rxr> karasz: not yet - need my hammer to hit it to debug it comfortably
18:19 < karasz> guess next year then
18:19 < rxr> I also have no idea why I can not build 2.1 due to very strange 0-gcc breakage ..
18:19 < rxr> on powerpc64 ...
18:19 < karasz> :(
18:19 < rxr> trunk build just find on powerpc*
18:19 < karasz> go figure
18:20 < karasz> stable breaks but devel builds...
18:21 < rxr> karasz: stable builds on all other sorts of systems
18:21 < rxr> it is most likely just due to powerpc64 and my so new gcc or so ...
18:24 < mnemoc> re
18:25 < rxr> hi mnemoc
18:25 < mnemoc> happy with arch2uname? :)
18:26 < mnemoc> http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/apps/es/bestlist.html
18:26 < mnemoc> ^--- a caterpillar
18:27 < rxr> ouhm - unified memory of my tiny sub-notebook overloaded ...
18:27 < mnemoc> oh, _Ragnar_ registered himself!
18:27 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i didn't know you live at mexico :)
18:27 < rxr> opening konqueror makes the audio output stutter around and intermix random noisy breaks ...
18:27 < rxr> damn...
18:28 * rxr needs to have sound working on the dual core mac to stop using the laptop to feat the amplifier ...
18:29 < rxr> .oO
18:30 < rxr> and I need a browser on the mac - resizing the window with full load is also no fun for my ears ...
18:35 < karasz> mnemoc, that is not a catepillar, that it is a sorry excuse of a catepillar
18:35 < mnemoc> :)
18:37 < karasz> what are we kindegarten or so...?
18:37 < mnemoc> i gave the logos i got, noone like them
18:37 < karasz> ;(
18:37 < mnemoc> and the 'author' found this, and sent me the link :)
18:37 < karasz> and who likes that?
18:38 < mnemoc> noone, just the fun of finding another project with a caterpillar
18:38 < karasz> common
18:38 < karasz> i meant c'mon
18:38 < mnemoc> :)
18:38 < karasz> it is a toy
18:38 < rxr> mnemoc: reload http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
18:38 < mnemoc> good logo for gentoo then :)
18:38 < karasz> i guess that you do not want to be associated with that...
18:39 < karasz> Gentoo has a logo?
18:39 < karasz> ;)
18:39 < mnemoc> rxr: i see the same
18:39 < rxr> reload harder
18:39 < mnemoc> :D
18:40 < mnemoc> i mail them to ask about making it 'satellite' or 'hybrid'
18:40 < mnemoc> no reply yet
18:40 < karasz> i allways thought that the gentoo logo is Kasper after it got hit by a buss
18:40 < axion> lol
18:41 < karasz> no forums found...
18:41 < rxr> karasz: I thought the gentoo logo is robinson going to microsoft ...
18:42 < karasz> nah
18:42 < mnemoc> rxr: doesn't fit nice with our logo, but it's much better than a redirect
18:42 < karasz> it is Kasper
18:42 < karasz> but i am not sure about the bus
18:43 * karasz thinks hard.... maybe a truck
18:43 < rxr> mnemoc: reload again - logo is commented out
18:43 < karasz> anyway it is after a serious encounter with smth hard...
18:43 < mnemoc> :D
18:44 < karasz> wait, maybe it is not kasper but Robinsons ghost.....
18:44 * karasz has a hard time decidin'....
18:44 < rxr> mnemoc: don't you think the satelite map switch is already there - just not commented on the embedding help page ?
18:45 < mnemoc> gmaps_something=1
18:45 < rxr> if google would just throw less man-power on google earth and more onto google map - streets for more than the US and UK would rock ...
18:45 < rxr> mnemoc: whatever ...
18:45 < rxr> mnemoc: with a better javascript debugger one would know ...
18:46 < mnemoc> ack
18:46 < rxr> ack on var or street data in google map ... ?
18:47 < rxr> and then compatible enough to run on PDAs so you can navigate with it walkging driving around ...
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19:17 < karasz> wb rxr
19:17 * karasz still runs like hell
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19:18 < rxr> karasz: what hell ?
19:19 < karasz> :)
19:19 < rxr> mnemoc: think it is a gcc-4.0.2 bug or so
19:19 < karasz> rxr ask mnemoc
19:19 < rxr> mnemoc: when I just build the old 3.4.x with my host compiler I get what I get for 2.1 cross builds ...
19:19 < rxr> In file included from /usr/include/stdio.h:834, from ../../gcc/tsystem.h:79, from ../../gcc/crtstuff.c:62:
19:19 < rxr> /usr/include/bits/stdio.h: In function `vprintf':
19:19 < rxr> /usr/include/bits/stdio.h:36: error: parse error before "__restrict__"
19:19 < rxr> /usr/include/bits/stdio.h: In function `getchar':
19:19 < rxr> /usr/include/bits/stdio.h:43: error: parse error before "__restrict__"
19:19 < rxr> [pid 9436] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
19:19 < mnemoc> oh
19:19 < axion> how do i find out if a specific package is in the database?
19:19 < mnemoc> what about 4.01?
19:19 < rxr> I think the output is already invalid and the segfault is the biggest case notifying that there is something seriously wrong
19:20 < mnemoc> axion: echo package/*/foo
19:20 < rxr> I think the bug is in 4.0 miscompiling 3.4 on at least powerpc64
19:20 < rxr> or 3.4 having some undefined C code sequence that powerpc64 with gcc-4.0 translate into this undefined, crashing assembly ...
19:20 < mnemoc> axion: t2 database is pure plain text and file hierarchy
19:21 < rxr> I first try updating my host compiler to a newer gcc snapshot to see if I can cure it that easily
19:21 < mnemoc> hope so
19:21 < axion> thanks again mnemoc
19:21 < karasz> bug in gcc i allwas hate that
19:22 < rxr> 19:19 < mnemoc> what about 4.01?
19:22 < rxr> we are already at 4.0.2
19:23 < mnemoc> yes, i thought the bug may have been _introduced_ on 4.0.2
19:23 < rxr> axion: also ./misc/archive/Find.sh with a package name as argument can be of help
19:23 < rxr> mnemoc: ah ok
19:23 < rxr> mnemoc: I have no test data - first ppc64 box in the house ...
19:24 < karasz> mnemoc, you do not happen to have a flame thrower handy, do you?
19:25 < mnemoc> karasz: uhm?
19:26 < karasz> i need a flame thrower and i thought you might have one handy...
19:26 < karasz> guess not
19:26 < mnemoc> rxr: if cpio gets _properly_ installed on stage-0, Initrd finds it
19:26 * karasz resorting to the lighter... :(
19:26 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm?
19:26 < rxr> karasz: whats up with you that you need the flame?
19:27 < mnemoc> rxr: $root/$root/bin vs. $root/bin :)
19:27 < karasz> i need to get out from my office again...
19:27 < mnemoc> karasz: frozen door?
19:27 < karasz> i looked out the window and i saw mointains of snow which means frozen door
19:28 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
19:28 < karasz> damn winter
19:28 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - ic
19:28 < rxr> you fix ?
19:28 * rxr off for dinner with my brother and susan
19:29 < rxr> dinner and beer that will be ...
19:29 < rxr> new system with gcc-4.0-snapshot building
19:29 < rxr> cu then
19:29 < mnemoc> rxr: already done :)
19:29 < rxr> svn up does not give me cpio mods ?
19:29 < CIA-2> amery * r14308 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/ (cpio.conf cpio.desc): * changed cpio to also build on stage-0, because mkinitrd needs it for target output.
19:29 < mnemoc> give my poor bw some more seconds
19:30 < mnemoc> rxr: svn up :)
19:30 < mnemoc> i need about 2 minutes to do a commit :(
19:30 < karasz> cu rxr
19:30 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm - that is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
19:30 < rxr> cu
19:30 < rxr> mnemoc: thanks for the fix ,-)
19:30 < mnemoc> np ,-)
19:31 < karasz> hmm minimal builds quite ok...
19:31 < mnemoc> i'm not good finding kernel or gcc bugs, but i can fix this kind of stuff :)
19:31 < mnemoc> karasz: trunk:HEAD minimal builds flawless
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19:32 < karasz> hmmm
19:32 < misl> hi folks :)
19:32 < karasz> mnemoc, wanna bet?
19:32 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg minimal
19:32 < mnemoc> Error logs from minimal-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic:
19:32 < mnemoc> 199 builds total, 199 completed fine, 0 with errors.
19:33 < mnemoc> with installer
19:33 < karasz> i willl publish a regression when finishes
19:33 < karasz> i disabled lazyfs, linux24, and at76...
19:33 < axion> rxr: i get the same initrd problem when booting my newly built install cd
19:34 < mnemoc> karasz: minimal doesn't have lazyfs or at76...
19:34 < karasz> just to be sure
19:34 < karasz> i disabled thenm...
19:34 < mnemoc> axion: http://www.rafb.net/paste/
19:34 < karasz> it has linux24 does it?
19:35 < karasz> or that was fixed, and i missed it?
19:35 < axion> mnemoc: i got kernel panic: unknown-block(3,4)
19:36 < karasz> hello minto
19:36 < karasz> sorry i didn't see you..
19:36 < axion> also the initrd section of menu.lst was absolute to the mounted partition i was building on
19:39 < mnemoc> axion: uhm
19:40 < karasz> off to eat
19:41 < karasz> bbl
19:41 < mnemoc> time to break trunk again
19:45 < axion> mnemoc: i fixed it by manually editing...not sure why it set initramfs as (cd)/boot//home/axion/..
19:46 < axion> but now that it's booted, i am stuck at the same problem i had with Yuletide
19:47 < axion> i hit '0' to load a stage from local device, and only my cd-rom is listed, not the dvd-rom i'm booting from. 2.1 shows both
19:47 < mnemoc> take a look into package/base/mkinitrd/initrdinit
19:48 < mnemoc> you could hardcode an sleep on it to try
19:49 < mnemoc> it's sh code
19:49 < axion> i dont have anymore blank media right now :/
19:50 < mnemoc> :'(
19:50 < mnemoc> cdrw are good
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20:36 < morfoh> rehi
20:37 * morfoh already prepared a nice cake
20:37 < VX> gi
20:37 < VX> hello, morfoh
20:37 < VX> nice photo at frappr :)
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20:40 < mnemoc> wb morfoh, Stelz
20:40 < Stelz> hi, mnemoc
20:44 < CIA-2> aldas * r14309 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.desc: * updated samba (3.0.21 -> 3.0.21a)
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20:56 < morfoh> hi Stelz :)
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20:59 < CIA-2> amery * r14310 /trunk/package/ (18 files in 15 dirs): * improved stone to auto-install modules matching stone_*.sh pattern
21:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: seems you're quite busy reworking stone*crap ;)
21:00 < karasz> re
21:01 < karasz> mnemoc, would you care http://karasz.pastebin.ca/35312
21:01 < morfoh> wb senor karasz :)
21:02 < karasz> buenas tarde senor morfoh
21:02 < mnemoc> karasz: what's the problem?
21:02 < karasz> i guess none
21:02 < karasz> some wierd bash not gound
21:02 < karasz> other than that i guess build finished ok
21:02 < mnemoc> some weird wrong paste on bash prompt ,-)
21:02 < karasz> regression in 30 secs
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21:04 < rxr> re
21:05 < karasz> mnemoc, http://www.x5.ro/regression/minimal/regressions.html
21:05 < morfoh> wb rxr
21:05 < mnemoc> wb rxr
21:05 < mnemoc> karasz: looks perfect :)
21:05 < karasz> :D it is
21:05 < karasz> 200 out of 200
21:06 < rxr> axion: ah - that dvd missing might be a u/dev config problem
21:06 < rxr> saw that on valentins box as well
21:06 < rxr> axion: so aside the absolute path regression trunk now works for you, right?
21:06 < karasz> although why i have 200 and you 199 is beyoun me
21:06 < rxr> formerly the initrd was empty and thus the panic
21:06 < mnemoc> karasz: 64bits arch has glibc32
21:06 < karasz> ah yes
21:07 < karasz> forgot that
21:09 < morfoh> rxr: btw, do have any plans for tomorrow ?
21:10 < morfoh> rxr: if you want to come over here .... you're heartly invited
21:10 < rxr> yep - we had a 5 people++ party - but 2 female friends of susan from south germany are not comming over
21:10 < jsaw> re
21:11 < rxr> oh 6++ that was
21:11 < rxr> but now we are only 3-4 ... :-(
21:11 < morfoh> Hi Dr. jsaw ;)
21:11 < rxr> if you want you can join us
21:11 < jsaw> 0-linux-header fails ..?
21:11 < rxr> most probably mexian or so food - board games or so
21:11 < mnemoc> jsaw: ??
21:11 < jsaw> hi morfoh, rxr, mnemoc
21:11 < morfoh> rxr: yeah ... thanks ... but we've a party here as well
21:11 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
21:12 < morfoh> with about 25 people I think
21:12 < jsaw> Create symlinks and a few headers for ...
21:12 < jsaw> Makefile:485: .config: No such file or directory
21:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: HEAD ?
21:12 < jsaw> mnemoc: yes
21:12 < mnemoc> i386-64?? wtf
21:12 < rxr> i386-64 is wrong
21:12 < rxr> let me take a look
21:12 < karasz> how the hell did that got on my bash prompt???
21:13 < jsaw> oh, ic
21:13 < mnemoc> karasz: paste button?
21:13 < morfoh> some days ago I had problem while building a 2.1.0 bootdisk target optimized for pmmx
21:13 < karasz> i was not here
21:13 < karasz> when i came back there it was
21:14 < karasz> so minimal is flawless
21:14 < karasz> on trunk HEAD
21:15 < rxr> jsaw: hm - can you take a look where the -64 slips in - looks quite fine
21:15 < rxr> test built ony for powerpc64 and x86-64 though
21:15 < jsaw> rxr: it's in arch2uname
21:16 < jsaw> s/x86/i386/
21:16 < mnemoc> morfoh: define problem
21:16 < mnemoc> *g*
21:16 < jsaw> rxr: in linux-conf.in: lx_cpu=`echo $arch | arch2uname | sed -e s/mips64/mips/`
21:16 < mnemoc> at least it's now a single place to fix
21:16 < karasz> what's next?
21:16 < morfoh> mnemoc: if I could remember I'd flood you with logs g but unf. I erased them
21:17 < rxr> # echo x86 | sed s/x86/i386/ | sed -e s/mips64/mips/
21:17 < rxr> i386
21:17 < rxr> ah
21:17 < rxr> jsaw: do you build for x86-64 ?
21:17 < rxr> # echo x86-64 | sed s/x86/i386/ | sed -e s/mips64/mips/
21:17 < rxr> i386-64
21:17 < rxr> okok
21:17 < jsaw> yes
21:17 < mnemoc> 's/x86$/i386/' ?
21:17 < jsaw> getting a sempron tomorrow
21:18 < rxr> sempron with 64bit
21:18 < rxr> ?
21:18 < jsaw> yep
21:18 < karasz> O.O
21:18 < mnemoc> all new semprons are 64 afaik
21:18 < jsaw> it's basically a atholon64 with half the cache iirc
21:18 < mnemoc> L1 or L2?
21:18 < jsaw> just cheaper
21:19 < jsaw> L2 iirc
21:20 < mnemoc> not much problem for normal usage then
21:20 < CIA-2> rene * r14311 /trunk/scripts/core-functions.in: * fixed arch2uname not to translate x86-64 into i386-64 ,-)
21:20 < jsaw> oh
21:21 < morfoh> .oO( that's a service )o :)
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21:21 < jsaw> rxr was way faster...
21:21 < jsaw> my cold slows my down to a crawl...
21:21 < jsaw> me*
21:23 < rxr> jsaw: ,-)
21:23 < mnemoc> *g*
21:23 < rxr> err :-(
21:23 < karasz> anyone interested in a minimal x86_64 iso for em64t?
21:23 < jsaw> :)
21:23 < rxr> jsaw: gute besserung ,-)
21:23 < jsaw> merci
21:23 < rxr> jsaw: hope you will have fun with your 64bit cpu then and get healthy soon
21:24 < jsaw> hope so too :)
21:24 < mnemoc> karasz: i don't know anyone with a em64t :)
21:24 < morfoh> jsaw: yep ... get well soon and have fun :)
21:24 < karasz> nah, i was just showin' off
21:24 < karasz> but i have one if anyone cares... :D
21:25 < mnemoc> :)
21:25 < morfoh> rxr: btw, how much RAM was built into your MSI S270 when you bought it ?
21:25 < karasz> and now mnemoc ?
21:25 < rxr> morfoh: 512
21:26 < morfoh> rxr: and HDD ?
21:26 < rxr> 80GB
21:26 < jsaw> anyone interested in initng?
21:26 < mnemoc> karasz: ?
21:26 < morfoh> rxr: CPU ? ;)
21:26 < rxr> morfoh: the box is as i brougt it - I only exchanged the improcom 2000 with a GPL driver aware Intel ipw2200
21:27 < rxr> morfoh: Turion MT 30
21:27 < rxr> MT is the low power
21:27 < rxr> they are available with ML (more engergy 35W) and semprons as well
21:27 < karasz> mnemoc, Dec 30 14:50:46 first get a minimal, then... the sky^W^Wdesktop
21:27 < morfoh> rxr: ic .... thanks ;)
21:28 < mnemoc> karasz: go for minimal+X :)
21:28 < rxr> if you was because you sonsider buying it, be aware that I would want nearly the full price, especially with the Intel w-lan card
21:28 < morfoh> rxr: the specs are quite nice so far ;)
21:28 < karasz> mnemoc, i should drop my desktop config as it is?
21:28 < rxr> it is mostly new and even still includes the plastic shilding before the display and the metal cover
21:28 < mnemoc> karasz: minimal+X is another generic template
21:28 < karasz> and go for generic with pkgsel minimal + X?
21:29 < rxr> it was 1035EUR 2 month ago or so
21:29 < mnemoc> just change your current config ,-)}
21:29 < karasz> i cannot type as fast i can think...
21:29 < karasz> which one?
21:29 < karasz> desktop or minimal?
21:29 < karasz> i guess minimal
21:29 < mnemoc> yes
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21:31 < jsaw> so, no interest in initng...
21:31 < mnemoc> ?
21:31 < rxr> no gentoo beginner C is not interesting for me ...
21:31 < CIA-2> amery * r14312 /trunk/package/base/stone/parse-config: * fixed typo on stone/parse-config which broke file detection
21:31 < rxr> this initng person asked the most stupid unix bigginner stuff on linux-kernel ...
21:31 < karasz> mnemoc, minimal +xorg or minimal +xorg +basic desktop?
21:31 < rxr> I'll not touch choose s.th. like that as my init, mother of all processes ...
21:31 < jsaw> rxr: ic
21:32 < jsaw> mnemoc: http://initng.thinktux.net/index.php/Main_Page
21:32 < rxr> if I want some alternative init minit is good for me
21:32 < mnemoc> karasz: one by one
21:32 < karasz> oki
21:32 < jsaw> <- trying runit
21:32 < rxr> I think feature wise minit does not differ much from initng
21:32 < mnemoc> and runit is good for me :)
21:32 < mnemoc> minit use too many files
21:32 < rxr> in fact I doubt the initng beginner code took some minutes to review what is there beside sysvinit ...
21:33 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... minit is nice :p
21:33 < mnemoc> :)
21:33 < morfoh> mnemoc can run away with his runi crap
21:33 * morfoh hides
21:33 < karasz> mnemoc, before build should i svn up?
21:33 < morfoh> :)
21:33 < rxr> nah
21:33 < mnemoc> i don't like minit design
21:33 < rxr> runit and minit are both nice to have
21:33 < morfoh> in fact runit is quite nice too :)
21:33 < rxr> I think minit is simpler with more sharp edges
21:34 < rxr> as usual for fefes stuff
21:34 < morfoh> ack
21:34 < rxr> I wonder where fefe has gone
21:34 < valentin> anyone fixed bdb33 during this day ?
21:34 < mnemoc> runit is simpler, you only need a ./run file
21:34 < mnemoc> valentin: no
21:34 < karasz> mnemoc, before build should i svn up?
21:34 < rxr> mnemoc: I meant code wise
21:34 < rxr> his mailbox has a lot patches from me
21:34 < mnemoc> karasz: always
21:34 < rxr> for dietlibc and embutils ...
21:34 < valentin> there seems to be a configure script syntax error
21:34 < rxr> especiallz our embutils includes a lot of fixes and new programs ...
21:34 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, fefe's code is better.
21:35 < valentin> stone fails, too...
21:35 < rxr> mnemoc: well when you look how many mount segfault fixes I have in embutils one may question this
21:35 < rxr> valentin: svn up
21:35 < valentin> stone fails due to shared files with sysfiles
21:35 < mnemoc> rxr: :p
21:35 < rxr> valentin: we caused a lot regressions in the last 24h and fixed and equal amount of those ...
21:35 < valentin> rxr: if i abort ./Emerge system
21:36 < valentin> and i run it again, will it only build those packages left or failed ?
21:36 < rxr> valentin: and why it would have been better to start emerging yesterday afternoon ,-)
21:36 < rxr> valentin: ack
21:36 < rxr> if course
21:36 < karasz> it will build everything all over again right?
21:36 < rxr> -system let's emerge check each package - and consider the usual version / checksum semantic as configured
21:36 < jsaw> ok, linux-header went find, thanks rxr
21:36 < jsaw> fine...
21:36 < rxr> karasz: nope 0 stuff up to date will not be rebuild
21:37 < valentin> the two kernels failed, too
21:37 < valentin> FATAL: Could not open /tmp/tmp.GTTbn15456/lib/modules/2.6.15-rc5-mm3-dist/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory
21:38 < mnemoc> valentin: that was fixed long time ago
21:38 < karasz> right
21:38 < mnemoc> get current ,-)
21:38 < karasz> i am on stage [5] allready
21:38 < karasz> hmmm nice T2
21:39 * mnemoc is preparing his next 'lets break trunk' loop
21:39 < karasz> ;(
21:39 < mnemoc> last 24h have been fun :p
21:39 < rxr> mnemoc: !!!
21:39 < Baldzius> l0l
21:40 < mnemoc> rxr: you said january, not december :)
21:40 < mnemoc> rxr: and i'll not stop until i can release 2.1.1, so i need x86-64 and ppc isos :)
21:40 < karasz> yeah stay with trunk:HEAD until mnemoc breaks it
21:41 < valentin> mnemoc: i use trunk from today in the early afternoon
21:41 * karasz runs like hell
21:41 < valentin> think i did an svn up after download finished
21:41 < valentin> however...
21:41 < mnemoc> karasz: that was my job until i got doomed to 2.1-stable :p
21:41 < karasz> :D
21:42 < karasz> nobody likes stable tree maintaining
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21:42 < rxr> valentin: svup
21:42 < rxr> svn up even
21:42 < karasz> or swup
21:42 < rxr> mnemoc: I would build if I would not hunt ppc miscompilation due to my host compiler
21:42 < karasz> trustix has swup
21:42 < rxr> 2.1.1 is mostly done I would say
21:43 < mnemoc> mostly :)
21:43 < rxr> that is 99.99%
21:43 * mnemoc automatizing rocknet modules installation now
21:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: what is missing ?
21:43 < mnemoc> .init will come
21:43 < mnemoc> morfoh: ISOs :)
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21:43 < valentin> huh - svn up did not update anything
21:43 < mnemoc> valentin: trunk or tag?
21:43 < valentin> maybe something is broken in my half build system ? trunk
21:44 < mnemoc> sure?
21:44 < karasz> trunk updated aprox 20 files for me 5 minutes ago
21:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you need CPU cycles ?
21:44 < valentin> URL: http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk
21:44 < valentin> Repository UUID: c5f82cb5-29bc-0310-9cd0-bff59a50e3bc
21:44 < valentin> Revision: 14312
21:44 < valentin> Node Kind: directory
21:44 < valentin> Schedule: normal
21:44 < valentin> Last Changed Author: amery
21:44 < valentin> Last Changed Rev: 14312
21:44 < valentin> Last Changed Date: 2005-12-30 21:31:23 +0100 (Fri, 30 Dec 2005)
21:44 < valentin> Properties Last Updated: 2005-12-30 11:24:29 +0100 (Fri, 30 Dec 2005)
21:44 < valentin> hm...
21:44 < mnemoc> morfoh: p4 and pmmx are uploaded, rene will upload x86-64 and ppc before release :)
21:45 < morfoh> ok
21:45 < karasz> yupiyopiyouuu :)
21:45 < mnemoc> morfoh: no idea if master core architect wants a desktop iso for atholon
21:45 < mnemoc> valentin: ok, i believe you
21:46 < valentin> mnemoc: the last changeset went into my local checkout ... so i guess i am uptodate now
21:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: don't thinks so after his comments ? ;)
21:46 < valentin> but why did svn omit all those "U" messages ?
21:47 < rxr> mnemoc: nope
21:47 < rxr> i only want pentium-mmx, pentium4 is aready a bit too much, but - well
21:47 < mnemoc> rxr: nope what? athlon-xp things?
21:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep
21:47 < rxr> nah - I think providing fine-grained optimized builds is too much
21:47 < rxr> some reasonable base isos ...
21:48 < rxr> especially when they are tested and known to be good is better than too much choice ..
21:48 < rxr> and upload bandwidth ...
21:48 < rxr> but as you want to keep the sponsored by Intel hat, ...
21:48 < mnemoc> upload bandwidth is the only real reason imo
21:48 < rxr> gogo
21:48 < rxr> so far noone complained
21:48 < rxr> but please not yet also athlon as well
21:49 < rxr> though I wear the spnsored by AMD hat. ..
21:49 < mnemoc> rxr: most people have x86, most people like higher than i586 optimizations, and most people use windows :p
21:50 < valentin> most living beeings on this planet eat crap
21:50 < mnemoc> :)
21:50 < karasz> whouuu valentin is pissed off :)
21:50 < nzg> does still not mean crap is tasty
21:51 < morfoh> you have the choice, but you have to pay for it
21:51 < valentin> nzg is member of a special but minor species
21:53 < rxr> valentin: is the new athlon on?
21:53 < rxr> can I log in ?
21:53 < rxr> need to review a u/dev thing
21:53 < valentin> rxr: feel free to do so. it is the .43
21:54 < nzg> valentin: wich one *g*
21:54 < valentin> nzg: 192.168.1.43 ;P
21:54 < CIA-2> rene * r14313 /trunk/misc/target/initrd.in:
21:54 < CIA-2> * fixed extend_initrd to declare it's from and initrd variables local
21:54 < CIA-2> and thus not trash callees ones - fixes not to leak absolute path
21:54 < CIA-2> boot loader config for install/ and livecd/
21:54 < valentin> rxr: if you're comming in via grum, don't forget to edit the known_hosts
21:54 < rxr> tans
21:55 < rxr> thanks
21:55 < rxr> in
21:55 < nzg> valentin: huh?
21:55 < valentin> huh what ?
21:56 < nzg> what does some private ip tell me?
21:56 < valentin> nothing, but you wanted to know which .43
21:56 < valentin> however - i did not reveal the secret how to participate in my local network
21:56 < rxr> it a VPN cross berlin ...
21:56 < valentin> rxr knows...
21:56 < rxr> wonder wonder
21:58 < nzg> i'm more interested in my desktop-build finishing (which will take a few more days considering that i can not let my box run 24/7)
22:00 < morfoh> nzg: what arch you're building ?
22:00 < karasz> morfoh, busy?
22:00 < morfoh> karasz: ?
22:01 < karasz> just askin'
22:01 < nzg> morfoh: x86/p4
22:01 < morfoh> I thought mnemoc uploaded P4 ISO's
22:02 < morfoh> or just minimal P4
22:02 < karasz> mnemoc, ussualy is minimal
22:02 < nzg> morfoh: i need ndiswrapper etc
22:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: desktop for p4 is uploading... at 12.67kB/s
22:03 < morfoh> nzg: ah ... ok. just thought because you talked about a desktop-build
22:03 < nzg> i think i'm using mnemoc's build currently
22:04 < CIA-2> rene * r14314 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/50-udev.rules:
22:04 < CIA-2> * fixed ide cdrom u/dev rules to enumerate properly, optimized the
22:04 < CIA-2> to cause less overhead for other ide devices and removed a
22:04 < CIA-2> duplicate entry meant to do the same but broken in another way ...
22:04 < rxr> `- and I already based on redhat / fedora rules - and still a lot of broken crap ...
22:04 < nzg> (at least i got some p4-desktop isos
22:04 < mnemoc> p4 isos are mine
22:04 < rxr> axion: r14314 fixes the cdom issue you encountered
22:04 < morfoh> nzg: yeah ;)
22:04 < mnemoc> 2.1.0 i guess
22:04 < rxr> axion: a revision before fixed the absolute path in you menu.lst r14313
22:04 < mnemoc> rxr: he needs to buy more cdr discs first :)
22:04 < nzg> yep
22:04 < morfoh> mnemoc: build upon a "jaguar" :p
22:05 < rxr> after 20 cdr's for archivista I got back to cdrw's again
22:05 < mnemoc> pmmx on jaguar, p4 on builder
22:05 < mnemoc> rxr: same here
22:05 < rxr> only used the cdr's because I still have indutrial printed ROCK Linux onces ... and my former iBook was so slow burning cdrw's ...
22:05 < rxr> now I have 20+ ROCK Linux labelled cdr with Archivista powered by T2 ...
22:06 < rxr> *big fat evil grin*
22:06 < mnemoc> hehe
22:12 < rxr> valentin: do you still have my general purpose test cdrw in your iBook ?
22:15 < rxr> ah - found it
22:15 < morfoh> :)
22:15 < rxr> so / me off to susan in some secs to flash my Geode boxes with her usb cd-rom
22:15 < CIA-2> amery * r14315 /trunk/package/base/stone/parse-config: * fixed stone auto-installer to really remove prefix from files
22:16 < mnemoc> :D
22:16 < rxr> and hopefully thos damned bios hackery does boot from my high end lacie usb-cdrom then ...
22:16 < mnemoc> sounds fun
22:16 < rxr> crappy dos / bios junk ...
22:16 < mnemoc> :)
22:16 < mnemoc> good luck
22:16 < rxr> commercial closed stuff ...
22:20 < CIA-2> amery * r14316 /trunk/package/ (10 files in 9 dirs): * improved rocknet to auto-install modules matching rocknet_*.sh pattern
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22:35 < mnemoc> wb keinek
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22:44 < karasz> first error
22:45 < karasz> == 00:37:40 =[5]=> Building xorg/font-xfree86-type1 [1.0.0 2.2.0-alpha].
22:45 < karasz> -> Parallel build using 6 jobs enabled.
22:45 < karasz> -> Preparing build in src.font-xfree86-type1.minimal.20051231.003737.8384.karasz
22:45 < karasz> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-font-xfree86-type1.out
22:45 < karasz> !> Calculating package dependencies ...
22:45 < karasz> !> Creating md5sum and cksum files ... done.
22:45 < karasz> !> Creating package description ...
22:45 < karasz> !> Making post-install adaptions.
22:45 < karasz> !> Found shared files with other packages:
22:45 < karasz> !> var/cache/fontconfig/a38b073b3594017b5ef23885b256174e.ca ..
22:45 < karasz> !> Due to previous errors.
22:45 < karasz> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-font-xfree86-type1.out -> 5-font-xfree86-type1.err
22:45 < karasz> == 12/31/05 00:37:50 =[5]=> Aborted building package font-xfree86-type1.
22:45 < karasz> !> Creation of binary package isn't possible, because the package was not
22:45 < karasz> !> built successfully in (at least) the current stage.
22:45 < karasz> same type1 crap
22:46 < karasz> actualy it is not the first but all of them are type1
22:48 < jsaw> how do I search'n'replace with user interaction in vi?
22:50 < mnemoc> karasz: can you paste the var/cache/fontconfig/a38b073b359... line complete ?
22:50 < mnemoc> jsaw: no idea
22:50 < karasz> moment
22:51 * jsaw is trying to get used to vi...
22:54 < karasz> var/cache/fontconfig/a38b073b3594017b5ef23885b256174e.cache-2: font-adobe-utopia-type1 font-bh-type1 font-bitstream-type1 font-ibm-type1
22:54 < karasz> font-xfree86-type1
22:55 < karasz> better http://karasz.pastebin.ca/35325
22:55 < mnemoc> uhm
22:55 < karasz> same error than for desktop
22:56 < mnemoc> expectable
22:56 < karasz> yup
22:56 < mnemoc> they are all executing a helper, maybe fc-cache, but they shouldn't.
22:57 < mnemoc> so packages need to be altered, via .conf or parch
22:57 < mnemoc> patch
22:57 < karasz> i am curious if other than that it builds...
22:57 < karasz> type1 is not a must i supose
22:58 < mnemoc> you listed 4 packages doing that
22:58 < mnemoc> font-adobe-utopia-type1 font-bh-type1 font-bitstream-type1 font-ibm-type1
22:58 < mnemoc> the helper called must be identified, and removed from build
23:01 < karasz> also font-xfree86-type1 or some
23:01 < mnemoc> first identify the helper which is creating that file
23:01 < mnemoc> then identify how is it been called
23:02 < mnemoc> and finally make it not do it
23:05 < karasz> i gues fc-cache is the culprit
23:05 < karasz> i am readinf fl_wrapper.wlog
23:06 < mnemoc> step 2, find how and when packages call fc-cache
23:07 < karasz> uf
23:07 < mnemoc> grep :)
23:07 < karasz> was i right when i read fl_wrapper.wlog?
23:08 < mnemoc> yes
23:08 < rxr> re
23:09 < mnemoc> wb rxr@geode
23:09 < karasz> mnemoc, syntax hint?
23:09 < madtux> anyone here familiar with cisco routers?
23:10 < mnemoc> grep -rn fc-cache src.font-adobe-utopia-type1*/font-adobe-utopia-type1*/
23:10 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:12 < karasz> mnemoc, http://karasz.pastebin.ca/35328
23:12 < karasz> i am puzzled
23:12 < mnemoc> good Makefile:70:FCCACHE = /usr/X11/bin/fc-cache
23:12 < mnemoc> so it's easy
23:13 < mnemoc> pass FCCACHE=true to make and makeinstall
23:13 < mnemoc> only makeinstall probably
23:13 < karasz> oki
23:13 < karasz> i didn't understood anything
23:14 < karasz> total blindness
23:14 < mnemoc> o.o
23:14 < mnemoc> grep for makeinstopt on packages/
23:14 * karasz is lightin' a cigarette
23:20 < karasz> hmm
23:20 < karasz> type1 fonts do not have .conf files
23:20 < karasz> just .desc
23:21 < karasz> so where do i put makeinstallopt="FCCACHE=TRUE"?
23:21 < mnemoc> i didn't say that
23:22 < karasz> even makeinstopt
23:22 < mnemoc> i said 'pass FCCACHE=true to .. make install'
23:22 < mnemoc> nor set makeinstallopt="FCCACHE=TRUE"
23:22 < karasz> and the difference is.....
23:22 < mnemoc> first true vs TRUE
23:22 < karasz> ok
23:23 < karasz> i saw that
23:23 < karasz> second
23:23 < mnemoc> second, mine is additive, yours drops any previous value
23:23 * Stelz is away: dropped to bed..
23:24 < mnemoc> greping you will see a helper called var_append used
23:24 < karasz> something like makeinstopt=makeinstopt&"FCACHE=true"?
23:24 < Stelz> 'night all
23:24 < karasz> wtong syntax ofcourse
23:24 < mnemoc> gn8 vixen
23:24 < karasz> night Stelz
23:24 < Stelz> mnemoc: >:(
23:24 < Stelz> gn, karasz
23:24 < mnemoc> karasz: grep for 'var_append makeinstopt'
23:25 < mnemoc> if you miss a .conf, just create it
23:27 < karasz> var_append makeinstopt ' ' "FCCACHE=true" ???
23:27 < mnemoc> ack
23:27 < karasz> damn
23:27 < mnemoc> the second argument is the separator
23:29 < karasz> ok i made a .conf
23:30 < karasz> build is still runnin
23:30 < karasz> i deleted the err
23:30 < mnemoc> it will fail
23:30 < karasz> who?
23:30 < karasz> the build?
23:30 < karasz> Finishing build.
23:30 < karasz> -> Creating package database ...
23:30 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-bh-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database.
23:30 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-bitstream-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database.
23:30 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-ibm-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database.
23:30 < karasz> !> Binary file for font-xfree86-type1-1.0.0.tar.bz2 not present. Skipped in package database.
23:31 < karasz> except 4 fonts build is finished
23:31 < mnemoc> builds are additive, so new files will be added to the old flist
23:31 < karasz> i gues it finished before i could make the changes...
23:31 < mnemoc> if the old flist includes a share, the new one will also contain it
23:31 < karasz> want a regression?
23:31 < mnemoc> no
23:32 < mnemoc> use -remove instead of deleting the .err file
23:32 < karasz> i do
23:32 < karasz> CreateERRList -remove?
23:32 < karasz> CreateErrList -remove?
23:33 < mnemoc> ls is your friend
23:33 < mnemoc> but yes
23:33 < karasz> ls?
23:33 < mnemoc> CreateErrList != Create-ErrList
23:33 < karasz> ack
23:34 < karasz> good that bash has tabcompletion :D
23:36 < mnemoc> :)
23:37 < CIA-2> amery * r14317 /trunk/misc/tail/install_cron.in: * improved tail/install_cron helper to work per-file instead of looping over $confdir
23:37 < karasz> nope
23:37 < karasz> it didn't helped
23:38 < karasz> or i messed up smth again
23:38 < karasz> oki nevermind tommorow is another day
23:38 < karasz> so cu tommorow
23:38 < karasz> bye
23:38 < mnemoc> gn8 karasz
23:38 < karasz> if not have an extremly Happy New Year
23:38 < mnemoc> *G*
23:39 < mnemoc> you too ,-)
23:39 < karasz> and may that all your wishes be fullfiled :)
23:39 < karasz> bye
23:39 < mnemoc> bye
23:40 < CIA-2> amery * r14318 /trunk/misc/tail/install_cron.in: * fixed install_cron to use 'y' instead of 'x' because the later is used on an external loop
23:43 < MisterN> cu
23:43 < mnemoc> cu MisterN
23:44 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CFB06.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Wieso gibt es keine guten Quitmessages? Jaja, diese ist auch doof."]
23:45 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit ["Leaving"]
23:56 < CIA-2> amery * r14319 /trunk/ (misc/tail/install_desktop.in scripts/functions.in): * reworked *.desktop auto-installation, and moved to misc/tail/install_desktop.in
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