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00:08 < rxr> valentin: the preinstall most probably comes patched with those drivers
00:10 < CIA-20> aldas * r14241 /trunk/package/graphic/pixie/pixie.desc: * updated pixie (1.4.7 -> 1.5.5)
00:11 < rxr> Baldzius: that pixie is the unstable branch and sepp I think said the 1.5 branches does not output many useful pixels
00:11 < Baldzius> g* oops :)
00:12 < Baldzius> revert? :)
00:15 < rxr> Baldzius: wait for sepp I would say
00:16 < rxr> but try to avoid unpdates to development branches
00:16 < rxr> (in the future ,-)
00:16 < rxr> beside that - thanks for the update work ,-)
00:16 < Baldzius> damn, i thought it's stable
00:16 < Baldzius> sepp will be mad :)))
00:16 < Baldzius> hehe np :)
00:18 < Baldzius> and again i had a feeling that i shouldn't update it
00:18 < Baldzius> i have to learn to listen to my feelings :)
00:18 < rxr> ,-)
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00:27 < rxr> hi ojh 
00:27 < ojh> rxr: Hi
00:36 < rxr> I think I really write a diet ip tomorrow
00:36 < rxr> the iproute2 code is just huge
00:36 < rxr> 90kB with a reduced subset and dietlibc
00:36 < rxr> I think one can get that down to <20kB with just the stuff one needs for usual embedded stuff
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00:48 < YeT2> Hi everyone ... did anyone build desktop with 2.2.0 successfully ?
00:48 < demian> hi
00:49 < demian> how can i see which lines contain non-text chars? i am trying to find binary data that doesnt let me diff two files..
00:51 < YeT2> well ... the default package for desktop target seems to need some work ... 
00:59 < mnemoc> rehi
01:18 < YeT2> is it usual that a build target is iterating several times over the same package ???
01:19 < mnemoc> there are 10 stages, a package can be on 0, 1 or more stages if the toolchain needs that
01:21 < YeT2> ok ... now its clearer ... well boehm is broken in yuletide ?! and the kernel 2.6.14.2 was only without atmel wlan stuff compilable
01:22 < mnemoc> YeT2: are you using svn?
01:23 < mnemoc> YeT2: or tarball?
01:23 < YeT2> well ... i did not this time ! (I used tarball)
01:24 < mnemoc> edit package/develop/boehm-gc/boehm-gc.conf
01:25 < mnemoc> -hook_add premake 1 "cp -fv /usr/bin/libtool ."
01:25 < mnemoc> +hook_add premake 1 "[ ! -f /usr/bin/libtool ] || cp -fv /usr/bin/libtool ."
01:26 < mnemoc> that will fix boehm-gc
01:27 < YeT2> cool !! already done ! thx !
01:28 < mnemoc> no problem ,-)
01:28 < YeT2> then i will have to X boehm again an to rebuild the target :(
01:29 < mnemoc> nah, just rm build/blah/var/adm/log/2-boehm-gc.err
01:29 < rxr> it dos auto rm the file if the default Config is untouced ...
01:30 < rxr> n8 all
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01:30 < mnemoc> after re-starting Build-Target, but rm during build will auto-reschedule it
01:30 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 
01:31 < YeT2> well ... (i worked around the prev problem by just marking boehm O and the Clean and the build ...
01:31 < mnemoc> remove the line from config/blah/pkgsel
01:31 < YeT2> in my personal desktob derived Config
01:31 < mnemoc> Config will be auto-executed when a change is noticed
01:32 < YeT2> oh ... COOL
01:32 < mnemoc> for that change there is no need to interrupt the build :)
01:32 < mnemoc> boehm-gc is not important on the first hours of build
01:33 < YeT2> i still cant believe it ... T2 rocks more than everything i had before ... it only lacks some documentation
01:34 < mnemoc> it lacks of people willing to write documents :p
01:35 < YeT2> btw ... does anyone succeed in installing on externel usb HD (are ALL modules required in initrd ?)
01:36 < mnemoc> i think they do, on 2.2
01:37 < YeT2> hehe ... actaully i'm just doing a test build of a desktop system with recent kernel and gcc4.0 to bootstrap my real target build from there afterwards
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01:38 < mnemoc> good luck :)
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01:52 < YeT2> oops ... boehm fix did not work ... same error : libtool : unable to infer tagged configuration  ??!!
01:54 < YeT2> build aborted ... darn
01:55 < mnemoc> uhm
01:55 < mnemoc> you need the libtool replacement... uhm
01:55 < mnemoc> just wait for the next rebuild of gc
01:56 < mnemoc> on stage 5
01:57 < YeT2> well ... I already reached stage 5 !
01:57 < mnemoc> uhm
01:57 < YeT2> 5-gcc and 5-gzi
01:57 < YeT2> logs already present
01:59 < mnemoc> just wait for 5-boehm-gc :)
02:00 < YeT2> I would like to ... but a Build restart tries to do 2-boehmgc first ... and the aborts
02:01 < YeT2> if I Cleanup ... everything s gone ..right? 
02:02 < mnemoc> touch build/foo/var/adm/log/2-boehm-gc.log ,-)
02:02 < mnemoc> Cleanup just remove abandon src.* files
02:02 < mnemoc> dirs
02:03 < mnemoc> i have to investigate this issue.... it's odd
02:03 < YeT2> there is NO 2-boehm-gc.log (only .err !)
02:03 < mnemoc> yes
02:03 < mnemoc> create a .log one using 'touch'
02:04 < mnemoc> that way Build-Target will think it was built successfuly
02:07 < YeT2> ... hmmm the same error : : libtool : unable to infer tagged configuration ... on stage 5 BUT NO ABORT
02:08 < mnemoc> the default is to abort on any error until stage 4, and continue on any error since stage 5
02:08 < mnemoc> what is your host os?
02:08 < mnemoc> arch?
02:08 < YeT2> ok ... my host OS is T2 2.1.0
02:09 < YeT2> ?arch?
02:09 < mnemoc> processor
02:10 < MisterN> nacht
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02:11 < YeT2> well ... os is running on Athlon XP (but standard 2.1.0 install !!) ... but target is beeing built for pentium MMX
02:12 < mnemoc> sounds very reproductable :)
02:12 < YeT2> strange combination ?
02:12 < mnemoc> nope, quite normal
02:12 < mnemoc> ignore boehm-gc for now ,-)
02:13 < YeT2> ok ... i will do ... the build is running again anyway ...
02:13 < mnemoc> is boehm-gc the only error until now?
02:14 < YeT2> nope ... i had a kernel problem with 2.4.32 ... during compile of main !!!  so I diabled it completely
02:15 < YeT2> and i disabled the at7x5blah stuff for kernel 2.6.14.2
02:17 < YeT2> well ... yeah ... there was another error in 5-linux26 !! not causing an abort
02:17 < YeT2> currently 5-linux26 is rebuilding
02:19 < mnemoc> can you publish (http) a regressions report of your build?
02:20 < YeT2> ?
02:21 < mnemoc> bash misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh --cfg foo
02:21 < mnemoc> bash misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh -cfg foo
02:21 < mnemoc> then export via http the content of regressions/foo
02:23 < YeT2> i get lots of "package/blah/blub ist keine Arbeitskopie" ??! OK ?
02:24 < mnemoc> oh, i forgot.... tarball instead of svn :(  ..... well, let see what it produce :)
02:25 < YeT2> 5-linux26 just failed again!
02:27 < mnemoc> publish your regressions report please
02:27 < YeT2> ok ... ihave the html file ... to publish it I need a running http-server ??
02:27 < YeT2> or is it an irc feature ?
02:28 < YeT2> gaah
02:28 < mnemoc> nope, http-server.... gatling is a cheap option
02:28 < mnemoc> but you can also use lighttpd or apache
02:28 < mnemoc> or upload somewhere
02:29 < YeT2> may i mail it to you ?
02:29 < mnemoc> ok, mail me 5-linux26.err and 5-boehm-gc.err
02:29 < mnemoc> amery at geeks dot cl
02:37 < YeT2> ok ... just sent with regressions.html as well
02:39 < mnemoc> :)
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03:23 < YeTyTwo> hi mnemoc !
03:24 < YeTyTwo> just managed to pulish !
03:27 < YeTyTwo> are you still there ?
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03:31 < YeTyTwo> hi
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04:27 < YeT2> hi
04:46 < YeT2> 5-boehm-gc just built
04:47 < YeT2> 5-linux26.err removed
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08:34 < mipe> hmm, how can i remove conflict with two packages irssi and perl (perlocal.pod)? i guess we dont want to remove the irssi pod installation since it appends to that file some data, flist_del?
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09:57 < LMJ> Good morning the chan
10:22 < rxr_> moin
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10:40 < Stelz> hmm
10:40 < Stelz> moin, rxr 
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11:00 < valentin> moin
11:02 < Stelz> moin, valentin
11:02 < valentin> hi Stelz 
11:20 < rxr> moin Stelz and valentin 
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11:47 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/hsw/05/12/27/2323237.shtml
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13:04 < LMJ> good morning
13:05 < Stelz> moin, LMJ 
13:07 < LMJ> ping rxr or mnemoc ?
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13:36 < karasz> moin all
13:37 < Stelz> hi, karasz 
13:41 < rxr> LMJ: yes?
13:42 < LMJ> good morning ;)
13:42 < rxr> 13:07 < LMJ> ping rxr or mnemoc ?
13:42 < LMJ> got that from php  in my webserver 2.1 stable   http://pastebin.com/481158
13:42 < rxr> ?
13:43 < LMJ> do you know this error ?
13:43 < rxr> hm
13:43 < karasz> hi Stelz ;)
13:43 < rxr> not for a normal build
13:43 < rxr> other stuff compiles?
13:44 < rxr> look into the src.php/../php-*/config.log what the real error is
13:44 < karasz> rxr i started a fresh build from trunk
13:44 < karasz> that emerge stuff was kinda .....
13:45 < karasz> i do not need to make the boot iso if i remember corectly, do i?
13:45 < rxr> not anymoe
13:46 < karasz> ok
13:46 < rxr> on trunk any build can be installable or livecd
13:46 < rxr> look into the config below the target selection
13:46 < karasz> i made it instalable
13:46 < rxr> what do you build for x86* ?
13:46 < karasz> adm64 optimised fot em64t
13:46 < rxr> ah - ok
13:47 < karasz> desktop target
13:47 < karasz> no advanced options
13:47 < rxr> I just ask because the new architecture/%/boot/ code wasonly tested for x86* - not powerpc or so
13:47 < karasz> just ccache
13:47 < karasz> it is x86, even if it is 64.. i guess
13:47 < rxr> nope x86-64 is an own architecture - thus also in t2
13:48 < rxr> however they share the same boot/ code
13:50 < karasz> so you say that it was not tested on x86-64?
13:50 < karasz> *grin*
13:50 < karasz> maybe somebody should do it...
13:50  * karasz looks around
13:51 < karasz> nobody?
13:51 < karasz> ok i'll do it then
13:52 < karasz> btw i did a dld-required and now i do a build target right?
13:52 < karasz> i didn't forgot anything i guess since build runs fine until now
13:56 < mnemoc> moin!
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14:01 < madtux> hello.
14:03 < mnemoc> hi madtux 
14:09 < rxr> karasz: I tested ti on x86 and x86-64
14:09 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
14:10 < mnemoc> moin rxr 
14:11 < mnemoc> rxr: what do we need to do to be able to build flawless a t2 2.2 on a t2 2.1 host?
14:13 < rxr> nothing I think
14:14 < mnemoc> libtool : unable to infer tagged configuration <--- someone get this while building boehm-gc, with a replaced libtool...
14:14 < mnemoc> 2.2 on 2.1 host
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14:15 < mnemoc> others have claim to have troubles, like keinek, but just screams a no serious feedback
14:15 < mnemoc> after finishing 2.1.1 isos i'll try myself
14:16 < karasz> moin mnemoc 
14:17 < karasz> rxr i was kiddin' abt testing...
14:18 < karasz> 21 minutes for glibc
14:18 < karasz> i mean [1] glibc
14:19 < karasz> how is that?
14:20 < rxr> mnemoc: I build mixes of those two flavours - though I fix issues on the way
14:20 < rxr> there is nothing trunk relies on that 2.1 misses
14:20 < mnemoc> good to know
14:21 < mnemoc> karasz: publish your buildlog with XTRACE enabled
14:21 < rxr> I think the complains are mostly due to trunk agility
14:21 < rxr> unpolished edges
14:21 < mnemoc> that's not a problem on a development branch :)
14:21 < rxr> don't ask how blody my keyboard is
14:22 < mnemoc> hehe
14:22 < mnemoc> tape your poor fingers
14:23 < karasz> mnemoc: in the config i selected xtrace
14:23 < rxr> tape is bad for typing
14:24 < karasz> so is that ok mnemoc ?
14:24 < mnemoc> yes
14:25 < karasz> i guess you want it when it finishes, right?
14:25 < mnemoc> now publish 1-glibc.err with .txt suffixed :)
14:25 < mnemoc> yes
14:25 < mnemoc> i understood it had failed
14:25 < karasz> glibc.err?
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14:25 < karasz> i do not have any err till now...
14:25 < mnemoc> good :)
14:26 < mnemoc> if you get errors, please publish the regressions report of the build
14:26 < karasz> glibc ok now glibc32 is buildin
14:26 < mnemoc> bash misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh -cfg foo
14:26 < karasz> ok
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14:54 < karasz> anybody knows why firefox source has 33MB?
14:55 < karasz> it has all the addons and plugins or what?
14:55 < mnemoc> all mozilla products include the source of the whole mozilla
14:55 < mnemoc> but their own branches, so you want share files
14:56 < mnemoc> so you _cant_ share files
15:03 < rxr> mozilla based stuff is a whole ot a crap :-((
15:03 < rxr> that is why I try to avoid them
15:05 < mnemoc> but it's the most 'compatible' and 'complete' open source browser out there :(
15:06 < mnemoc> same with openoffice, another piece of crap but unavoidable
15:07 < mnemoc> and don't mention eclipse, i have spent more hours on eclipse/kaffe than the hours i spent to make ooo running
15:07 < rxr> khtml seldom mis-renders for me ...
15:07 < LMJ> hum, you speak about Mozilla/ooo bloated stuff
15:08 < LMJ> that's a shame imoh :-/
15:08 < mnemoc> my bank's page doesn't run on explorer.exe under wine, just _native_
15:08 < rxr> speaking about it or that it is so bloated ?
15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm
15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: also not gecko ?
15:08 < mnemoc> of course not gecko
15:08 < rxr> bummer
15:09  * mnemoc consider ooo a big harm to opensource
15:10 < mnemoc> having ooo less developers are interested on improving koffice or gnome office
15:10 < rxr> yep
15:10 < rxr> though not many coders work on ooo - mostly big company such as sun itself interna
15:11 < rxr> I also heared that sun has this the orig. developers hanging around in germany/hamburg coding the ooo crap
15:11 < mnemoc> at staroffice labs
15:11 < rxr> ack
15:11 < rxr> starstinks labs ...
15:11 < LMJ> what about Abiword ?
15:12 < mnemoc> Abiword is part of gnome office
15:13 < rxr> well - I do not think there is s.th. like a gnome office
15:14 < rxr> except gimp only test'n trials here and there
15:14 < mnemoc> -vim: usr/share/vimrc
15:14 < mnemoc> +vim: usr/share/vim/vimrc
15:14 < rxr> and abiword is not exactly from inside the gnome folks
15:14 < rxr> mnemoc: that change is good(tm) - fixes a bug that the config is not used since on wrong place
15:14 < mnemoc> rxr: if you look at it's mandatory dependencies you know it's implicitly part of gnome
15:15 < mnemoc> rxr: good :)
15:15  * mnemoc having fun reviewing a diff between t2-desktop-2.1.0 and 2.1.1 :)
15:16 < mnemoc> finished
15:17 < mnemoc> missing 'celementtree' at 'desktop-2.1.0-x86-pentium4-desktop'
15:17 < mnemoc> missing 'elementtree' at 'desktop-2.1.0-x86-pentium4-desktop'
15:17 < mnemoc> missing 'text2pdf' at 'desktop-2.1.0-x86-pentium4-desktop
15:17 < mnemoc> they leaked in
15:17 < mnemoc> yuck yuck
15:18 < mnemoc> i hate vague target definitions :(
15:18 < mnemoc> rxr: did you start your 2.1.1 builds?
15:19 < rxr> aside the x86-64 onde e?
15:20 < mnemoc> what do you think, should i disable those infiltrated packages or let them live?
15:20 < mnemoc> elementtree and celementtree are python libraries for xml
15:21 < mnemoc> text2pdf is a pipe-able plaintext 2 pdf convertor
15:22 < rxr> what infiltrated do you mean?
15:22 < mnemoc> celementtree elementtree and text2pdf are on t2-desktop-2.1.1, but not on 2.1.0
15:23 < mnemoc> new packages on the tree got infiltrated on desktop packages list
15:25 < CIA-6> amery * r14242 /trunk/misc/archive/compare_builddirs.sh: * added toy script (compare_builddirs.sh) to compare two or more builds of the same config
15:27 < karasz> mnemoc: http://www.x5.ro/upload/fis/1-linux26.err.txt
15:27 < karasz> regression
15:28 < mnemoc> karasz: context?
15:28 < karasz> ?
15:28 < karasz> you need other files from regression?
15:29 < karasz> i have config.txt, packages.txt and regressions.html
15:30 < karasz> and in diff a firefox.diff
15:30 < rxr> hm
15:30 < karasz> but that is from yesterday iirc
15:31 < rxr> karasz: disable the at76c503a until I have time to look into it
15:31 < karasz> i need to regroup to the other console
15:33 < karasz> oki now i am back
15:35 < karasz> at76c503a?
15:35 < karasz> where?
15:36 < mnemoc> your pkgsel
15:36 < karasz> O at76c503a?
15:36 < mnemoc> yes
15:36 < karasz> oki
15:36 < mnemoc> and reschedule linux26
15:37 < mnemoc> if you had ccache enable, it will take about 30% of the first build
15:37 < mnemoc> if not, of course 100%
15:37 < karasz> i have ccache
15:37 < karasz> sorry but how to reschedule?
15:38 < mnemoc> stage-1 should be auto-rescheduled
15:38 < mnemoc> by default every failure until stage 4 produce an abort and auto-rescheduling of failures
15:39 < mnemoc> if not, you can reschedule by hand using scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg foo -remvoe package_to_reschedule
15:39 < mnemoc> remote
15:39 < mnemoc> remove*
15:39 < karasz> i made a line in Package selection rules - Line Package selection rules
15:39 < karasz> it say `O at76c503a``
15:39 < karasz> is it enough?
15:39 < mnemoc> grep at76c503a config/foo/packages should start with an O now
15:41 < karasz> yes it does atart with O
15:41 < karasz> so i re launch Build?
15:42 < mnemoc> Build-Target -cfg foo
15:42 < karasz> oki
15:42 < karasz> it say removin err and starts linux26
15:42 < karasz> so i guess it is ok
15:43 < karasz> usb lan... i do not need that anyway
15:44 < mnemoc> removing .err is a 'soft reschedule'
15:44 < mnemoc> Create-ErrList -remove is a 'hard rescheudle'
15:44 < mnemoc> because the second remove the installed files
15:44 < karasz> but i guess soft will do...
15:44 < karasz> we'll see
15:45 < mnemoc> yes
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15:58 < karasz> hmmm
15:58 < mnemoc> ?
15:58 < karasz> failed again
15:58 < mnemoc> build log?
15:58 < karasz> i make a regression right now
15:59 < karasz> right?
15:59 < mnemoc> :)
16:01 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/upload/fis/1-linux26.err.txt
16:01 < karasz> lazyfs i guess
16:02 < karasz> O lazyfs?
16:02  * mnemoc downloading... 
16:02 < mnemoc> :)
16:02 < karasz> :) as in yes?
16:02 < mnemoc> but if lazyfs is the problem, yes. disable it
16:02 < mnemoc> my bw is poor
16:02 < karasz> it died on lazyfs from what i can see
16:02 < mnemoc> give me a few more minutes
16:03 < mnemoc> em64t :D
16:03 < mnemoc> yes, lazyfs
16:04 < karasz> what about em64t?
16:04 < karasz> why do you smile?
16:05 < mnemoc> it's great to know someone is testing on that hardware
16:05 < karasz> you know me...
16:06 < karasz> if something is weird that could be only me :D
16:06 < mnemoc> :)
16:06 < karasz> so O lazyfs and Buil Target again...
16:07 < karasz> who the hell needs lazyfs anyway, fastfs on the other hand... :D
16:07 < mnemoc> :)
16:13 < karasz> mnemoc, how old are your daughters?
16:14 < mnemoc> 1.9 and 4.5
16:14 < karasz> nice
16:15 < mnemoc> yours?
16:15 < karasz> 0
16:16 < karasz> i do not have kids
16:16 < karasz> even wife for that matter ...
16:16 < mnemoc> that's good for finances :)
16:16 < karasz> i guess i am a hardcore bachelor
16:17 < karasz> hmmm... maybe
16:24 < karasz> 26 finished
16:24 < karasz> now 26mm
16:28 < rxr> re
16:30 < mnemoc> wb rxr 
16:38 < CIA-6> amery * r14243 /tags/2.1.1/target/desktop/pkgsel.sed: * removed infiltrated packages on desktop target (elementtree,celementtree,text2pdf)
16:41 < karasz> why do we build more than one linux26?
16:42 < karasz> and what has mm that vanila lacks?
16:43 < karasz> nice, googeled linux26mm
16:43 < karasz> first result: http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2
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16:47 < karasz> ho ho ho morfoh 
16:48 < morfoh> moin moin .... :)
16:48 < Stelz> hi, morfoh :)
16:48 < morfoh> hohoho ... dear karasz :)
16:48 < CIA-6> amery * r14244 /branches/2.1/target/desktop/pkgsel.sed: * merged 14243 from 2.1.1: removed infiltrated packages on desktop target (elementtree,celementtree,text2pdf)
16:48 < karasz> dear?
16:48  * karasz blushes...
16:49 < morfoh> dobroi vetscha Stelz :)
16:49 < Stelz> :)
16:49 < morfoh> did I missed sth. important ?
16:52 < morfoh> hmmm .... doesn't seem so ...
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16:56 < karasz_> re
16:57 < karasz_> mnemoc, can you kick karasz away?
16:57 < morfoh> karasz_: I cac kick both :p
16:57  * morfoh hides
16:57 < karasz_> i am sure of that morfoh :D
16:57 < morfoh> karasz_: good :D
16:57  * karasz_ finds morfoh and hands him to karasz
16:58 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz
16:58 < mnemoc> karasz_: if you have the nick registered you can ask nickserv to drop him
16:59 < karasz> so how was xmas morfoh ?
16:59 < karasz> mnemoc, linux24 failed
16:59 < karasz> publishing now
16:59 < mnemoc> karasz: you know what to do
17:00 < karasz> yes O linux24
17:00 < karasz> :)
17:00 < mnemoc> nah
17:00 < karasz> O_O
17:00 < mnemoc> but i want linux24 removed from t2 2.2 anyway
17:00 < karasz> so if nah then what?
17:00 < morfoh> karasz: xmas was quite nice ... it was good to see the family all together :)
17:01 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/upload/fis/1-linux24.err.txt
17:02 < morfoh> karasz: and how was xour xmas ? hopefully not that depressed :p
17:02 < karasz> my new wks ariving was helpfull i guess...
17:03 < morfoh> karasz: good to hear :)
17:04 < karasz> mnemoc, ?
17:05 < karasz> i didn't get what you want to say
17:06 < karasz> you want me to O /asm/processor?
17:06 < karasz> because it is there i see the error...
17:06 < mnemoc> it doesn't work that way ,-)
17:06 < mnemoc> yes, disable linux24
17:06 < karasz> thought so
17:07 < karasz> ok going to flex now
17:08 < karasz> is there a fase 0 before 1?
17:08 < karasz> i mean [0] => Building base/binutils....
17:09 < mnemoc> take a look into [P] entries on *.desc
17:11 < karasz> i meant generaly, but i looked and i found out that there is a phase [0]
17:12 < LMJ> hey rxr, i just checked src.php/../php-*/config.log to understand why i can't emerge 5.0.5, i paste it here but i still don't find what is the problem  http://pastebin.com/481599
17:12 < mnemoc> karasz: stage, from 0 to 9
17:13 < karasz> i know that now
17:13 < karasz> lokkedup in descs...
17:13 < karasz> even lookedup
17:16 < madtux> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usheal.htm
17:17 < mnemoc> madtux got a shake ,-)
17:17 < morfoh> haha ... mr pyro is in da house :D
17:18 < morfoh> pyro ... did you burned all your hair ?
17:18 < morfoh> it seems so while I'm comparing the rock and the t2 photos :p
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17:18 < karasz> hmmmm earthquakes are not so funny usualy ...
17:18 < madtux> *g*
17:18 < madtux> i'm on the top of a 10 floor building.. its fun up here
17:18 < madtux> morfoh, how is going?
17:19 < madtux> mnemoc, i know earthquakes are much stronger at the end of the world.
17:19 < morfoh> madtux: thanks ... quite nice :) 
17:19 < mnemoc> karasz: 5.1 is not an earthquake
17:19 < morfoh> madtux: and how are you ?
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17:19 < karasz> still, i wouldn't want to experience one i guess...
17:20 < mnemoc> karasz: over 7 they are funny :)
17:20 < karasz> i've never had an earthquake
17:20 < karasz> happen in chile?
17:20 < mnemoc> karasz: they are very common here
17:20 < morfoh> madtux: look ... this little fella will "burn" you too --> http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=212675&pid=975605&myphotos=1
17:20  * karasz will not go to Chile ever
17:20 < morfoh> earthquake ? chile ? so I really missed sth .... 
17:20 < morfoh> hmmm ?
17:21 < mnemoc> karasz: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/10maps_world.html <---- look at the first of the list
17:21  * karasz prefers to die in one piece preferably preserving initial shape
17:21 < madtux> karasz, never experienced an earthquake before before?
17:21 < karasz> nope
17:21 < mnemoc> 9.5, eat that ,-)
17:21 < madtux> karasz, hehe :)
17:22 < madtux> morfoh, nice picture
17:22 < madtux> karasz, its could be fun
17:23 < karasz> so now i have at least 12 locations i would'nt go....
17:23 < morfoh> madtux: yep ... nice photo ... but not a nice guy :p
17:23 < morfoh> he tried to bit my mom :)
17:24 < mnemoc> karasz: earthquakes are to such a big deal, but they make building more expensive
17:25 < morfoh> ok guys ... I've to leave you for some hours. I've to meet a friend 
17:25 < morfoh> arrg .... and girls 
17:25  * karasz prefers to die in one piece preferably preserving initial shape
17:25 < morfoh> owlitta is online :p
17:26 < karasz> cu morfoh 
17:26 < karasz> take care
17:26 < mnemoc> cu morfoh, have fun
17:26 < morfoh> mnemoc and karasz .... thanks :)
17:26 < morfoh> I'll try to have fun :p
17:27 < morfoh> bbl
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17:28 < karasz> mnemoc, do you happen to know if mc in T2 can display the content of archives like mc from gnome?
17:28 < mnemoc> i have never used mc
17:28 < karasz> then ls is your friend?
17:28 < karasz> :D
17:28 < mnemoc> but i know we have a non standard fork of it
17:29 < karasz> are there any standard forks from anything?
17:29 < mnemoc> gnumc is also a fork, but more commonly used
17:29 < karasz> that doesn't mean it is standard...
17:29 < mnemoc> :)
17:30 < karasz> but i like the mc from T2, i've used befor
17:30 < karasz> just don't remember if it can do that...oO
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17:52 < karasz> hmmm....
17:53 < karasz> looks like my -required didn't finish quite right...
17:53 < mnemoc> ?
17:54 < karasz> i have some incomplete files
17:54 < karasz> like texinfo...
17:54 < karasz> i re -required now...
17:54 < karasz> blessings from my ISP :(
17:55 < karasz> i saw thoose files...
17:55 < karasz> good thing that i didn't deleted them ;)
17:57 < karasz> btw mnemoc 
17:57 < karasz> why linux26mm?
17:58 < karasz> i thought that you allways use vanila
17:58 < madtux> Linus torvalds is dead.
17:59 < mnemoc> you have the choice of installing 'pure' torvalds releases, and performance enhanced mm branch
18:00 < karasz> madtux...o_O
18:00 < madtux> on a car accident 1 hour ago
18:00 < karasz> o_O
18:00 < mnemoc> tove drop him, he got depressed and crashed
18:01 < karasz> 1 hour ago?
18:01 < karasz> and from where do you know that?
18:01 < _Ragnar_> O_O
18:01 < mnemoc> lkml
18:01 < mnemoc> aren't you subscribed?
18:01 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_ 
18:01 < _Ragnar_> and that's not a fake?
18:02 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: will you add your butt to frappr?
18:02 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: have you ever seen hoax on lkml?
18:02 < _Ragnar_> yes but not during my holidays
18:02 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: holiwhat?
18:02 < Stelz> :))
18:02 < _Ragnar_> ;p
18:02 < madtux> karasz, happy "inocents day"
18:03 < Stelz> hi mnemoc, madtux, _Ragnar_ ;)
18:03 < madtux> hey Stelz :)
18:03 < nzg> moin
18:03 < mnemoc> hi VX
18:03 < mnemoc> moin nzg 
18:03 < Stelz> moin, nzg 
18:03 < Stelz> :))
18:03 < mnemoc> madtux: they celebrate it on april
18:03 < karasz> 1 hour ago?
18:03 < karasz> and from where do you know that?
18:03 < mnemoc> karasz: LKML
18:03 < madtux> mnemoc, oh :)
18:03 < karasz> so not that inocent...
18:03 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> aren't you subscribed?
18:04 < karasz> not in the last 100 messages on lkml :)
18:04 < madtux> karasz, hehe :)
18:04 < mnemoc> :)
18:04 < karasz> today is fools day?
18:04 < mnemoc> not fools, 'inocents'
18:05 < karasz> i thought that it is on April the 1st
18:05 < karasz> some spanish tradition?
18:05 < mnemoc> not on hispanic countries
18:05 < karasz> so December the 28th?
18:05 < karasz> i got to remember that
18:05 < Stelz> hm..
18:05 < karasz> madtux, 
18:06 < mnemoc> it's the 'date' that rembers the murder of just born kids to kill jesus
18:06 < madtux> karasz, 
18:06 < karasz> ahm
18:06 < Stelz>  20:04:48 up 18 days, 20:05,  0 users,  load average: 0.76, 0.60, 0.72
18:06 < Stelz> gigi
18:06 < Stelz> :)
18:06 < karasz> and what has that to do with kiddin people?
18:07 < mnemoc> karasz: whatever you promise today, don't need to be done
18:07 < mnemoc> karasz: example, ask for a loan ,-)
18:07 < karasz> so madtux, next time try with `this morning` not 1 hour ago
18:07 < madtux> hehe
18:07 < karasz> i prommise to fall for ot even more
18:08 < mnemoc> madtux is too inocent to fool people
18:08 < karasz> almost got me
18:08 < madtux> of course... i am the inocence in its most pure expression
18:08 < karasz> but 1 hour ago was suspicious
18:08 < madtux> :)
18:08 < nzg> this morning would have been more suspicios
18:09 < karasz> or this night for that matter...
18:09 < nzg> it would have appeared in radio, so 1h ago is less verifieable
18:09 < karasz> but is less viable too
18:10 < karasz> unless he has a direct phone line with God...
18:10 < mnemoc> was the lkml thing belevable?
18:10 < _Ragnar_> no
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18:10 < mnemoc> :'(
18:10 < karasz> enough to check it out... :( for any chanses...
18:11 < karasz> but that 1 hour ago set me thinkin'....
18:12  * karasz wonders about his inocence...oO
18:13 < mnemoc> lost
18:13 < karasz> yeah
18:13 < karasz> more or less...
18:14 < nzg> mnemoc: i'm not subscribed, so yeah, believable until verfied *g*
18:14 < mnemoc> :)
18:14 < karasz> me not subscribed either...
18:14 < karasz> good thing that they have a last 100 page ;)
18:14 < mnemoc> heheh
18:15 < nzg> ack, and that one would be flooded with condolences in the very case of linus death
18:15 < karasz> but mnemoc i think that it would been better if you just have said ML
18:16 < karasz> put me to think what ML are you talkin' about
18:16 < mnemoc> :)
18:16 < mnemoc> usenet ,-)
18:17 < karasz> tove?
18:17 < karasz> what is that? or who?
18:17 < mnemoc> lol
18:17 < mnemoc> torvals wife
18:17 < karasz> ok
18:18 < karasz> didn't knew that
18:18 < mnemoc> http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/kutvonen/promootio2000/normal/06.jpg
18:18 < karasz> so i guess i am inocent :(
18:18 < mnemoc> what a nerd he is
18:18 < karasz> in the sense of not knowin' things
18:20 < mnemoc> "inus is married to Tove Torvalds (nee Monni). She is a six-time Finnish national Karate champion, whom he first met in fall 1993."
18:20 < mnemoc> L+
18:21 < mnemoc> a nerd and a six-times Karate champion, interesting couple
18:21 < Baldzius> poor Linus :))))
18:22 < mnemoc> ack
18:22 < karasz> nah
18:22 < karasz> i am sure is not like you think :)
18:22 < Baldzius> i was joking :)
18:22 < karasz> and you should be ashamed if you thought what i thought...
18:22 < Baldzius> hehehe
18:23 < mnemoc> hehe
18:23 < karasz> so karasz, Baldzius , mnemoc to the corner and act ashamed 
18:24 < mnemoc> done
18:24 < karasz> me too
18:24 < karasz> Baldzius, ?
18:24 < Baldzius> my computer is in corner so i guess i'm also done :)
18:24 < karasz> good then
18:25 < karasz> now back to work and behave from now on...
18:26 < Baldzius> :)
18:29 < karasz> btw i am on stage [2] now...
18:30 < mnemoc> good luck
18:30 < karasz> do i need it?
18:31 < karasz> i thought IT was more like science then art...
18:31 < karasz> but remembering the last few days i start to doubt that...
18:31  * karasz is hungry
18:31 < karasz> off to hunt some food i guess
18:33 < mnemoc> t2 is pure art
18:36  * LMJ is agree  : piece of art
18:41 < mnemoc> debian is science, formal, documented, burocratic, ..... crap
18:46 < LMJ> LMAO
18:46 < LMJ> is Debian hurted you when you was young or something ?
18:46 < LMJ> ;)
18:46  * nzg fixing his shoelaces with scotch-tape...
18:49 < karasz> yes it is official now
18:49  * karasz off to hunt some food
18:51 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CD041.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
18:53 < MisterN> hi
18:53 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@p54AFF290.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["off to get some food"]
18:53 < mnemoc> LMJ: :)
18:54 < mnemoc> hi MisterN 
19:10 < LMJ> mnemoc 
19:10 < LMJ> maybe you have an idea about my php5.0.5 emerge trouble
19:10 < mnemoc> serwou
19:10 < LMJ> http://pastebin.com/481158
19:11 < LMJ> rxr told me to check the config.log in src.php/...php5.0.5/...    to identify the error
19:11 < LMJ> i'm on stable 2.1
19:11 < mnemoc> yes, look at config.log
19:11 < LMJ> i pasted a part http://pastebin.com/481599
19:11 < LMJ> but it doesn't talk to me much
19:13 < mnemoc> configure:102911: gcc -c -O2  conftest.c 1>&5
19:13 < mnemoc> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "--rpath"
19:13 < mnemoc> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "--rpath"
19:13 < mnemoc> cc1: /opt/mysql/lib/mysql: No such file or directory 
19:13 < mnemoc> that may be your problem, but i don't know if that is really the end of config.log
19:15 < LMJ> here is the end
19:15 < LMJ> http://pastebin.com/481812
19:16 < mnemoc> so, that is the end
19:16 < mnemoc> yes, that is the problem
19:17 < mnemoc> take a look into src.php.balh/cmd_wrapper.log
19:17 < mnemoc> at the end
19:17 < LMJ> mysql is installed...
19:17 < mnemoc> package/develop/php/php.conf:30:                var_append CC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' "-Wl,--rpath $( pkgprefix libdir mysql )/mysql"
19:18 < LMJ> php previos version was installed
19:18 < LMJ> i'm updating it because i installed GD libs, the PHP scripts detect is there is GD libs on the system during the compilation
19:19 < LMJ> mysql is in  /opt/mysql/bin/mysql
19:19 < mnemoc> at and the libs?
19:19 < mnemoc> and the libs?
19:20 < LMJ>  /opt/mysql/lib/mysql/lib*
19:20 < LMJ>  /opt/mysql/lib/mysql/
19:20 < LMJ> http://pastebin.com/481823
19:20 < mnemoc> please paste the last lines of your cmd_wrapper.log
19:22 < LMJ> http://pastebin.com/481826
19:24 < mnemoc> .oO( why is it appened twice? )o
19:25 < LMJ> if only i could understand what's happening :-/  ;)
19:26 < LMJ> the last line should be smaller ?
19:28 < mnemoc> your gcc is screamming about -Wl,--rpath /opt/mysql/lib/mysql part
19:28 < mnemoc> try commenting package/develop/php/php.conf:30 
19:30 < LMJ> gonna try
19:33 < CIA-6> aldas * r14245 /trunk/package/network/net-snmp/net-snmp.desc: * updated net-snmp (5.2.1.2 -> 5.2.2)
19:34 < CIA-6> aldas * r14246 /trunk/package/network/ethereal/ethereal.desc: * updated ethereal (0.10.13 -> 0.10.14)
19:36 < CIA-6> aldas * r14247 /trunk/package/security/libfwbuilder/libfwbuilder.desc: * updated libfwbuilder (2.0.8 -> 2.0.10)
19:37 < CIA-6> aldas * r14248 /trunk/package/security/fwbuilder/fwbuilder.desc: * updated fwbuilder (2.0.8 -> 2.0.10)
19:37 < LMJ> mnemoc  : == 12/28/05 19:38:20 =[9]=> Finished building package php.
19:38 < LMJ> you are good
19:38 < LMJ> thanks
19:38 < LMJ> this mistake comes from me ?
19:38 < mnemoc> nope, i don't understand why fails for you
19:41 < LMJ> 0thanks anyway
19:41 < mnemoc> :)
19:41 < mnemoc> np ,-)
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19:49 < YeT2> hi
19:51 < Stelz> hi, YeT2 
19:54 < YeT2> anyone built stage 5 for linux26 successfully ?
19:54 < YeT2> on yuletide !?
19:57 < mnemoc> YeT2: publish (http) 5-linux26.err with a .txt suffixed, or paste the last... 100? lines on a pasteservice
19:58 < madtux> or attach the whole log file on an email and send it to mnemoc 
19:58 < madtux> *VBEG*
19:58 < mnemoc> nope, that's not a choice :)
19:59 < madtux> oh come on..
19:59 < mnemoc> mail it to madtux :)
20:00 < madtux> i'm an insignificant.. u are the stable maintainer
20:00 < madtux> :)
20:01 < YeT2> okokok ... just published under moalem.homeip.net/regressions.html !
20:01 < mnemoc> you know enough to identify the issue on the log and paste the 3? relevant lines of the log :)
20:01 < mnemoc> YeT2: thanks ,-)
20:02 < mnemoc> outch
20:02 < YeT2> Could not open /tmp/tmp.KopdZ25008/lib/modules/2.6.14.2-dist/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory
20:02 < mnemoc> wth slmodem is mknoding??
20:03 < madtux> my experience with kernels is supposed to be secret 
20:03 < YeT2> hmmm ... well yes this is how slmodem is under the package tree of yuletide
20:04 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CD041.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
20:04 < YeT2> but slmodem is not important to me
20:04 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CDE26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
20:04 < mnemoc> YeT2: can you enable XTRACE on that config and rebuild 5-linux26?
20:05 < YeT2> yes i will ... as soon I found out how :)
20:05 < mnemoc> Config -cfg foo -> Enable XTRACE
20:05 < madtux> rebuilding it on debug mode would be very helpfull.
20:09 < CIA-6> aldas * r14249 /trunk/package/network/iptraf/compile-fix.patch: * added iptraf/compile-fix.patch - to actually compile package
20:11 < Baldzius> ^^ - made it 4 months ago :)
20:13 < mnemoc> o.o
20:14 < YeT2> *.err files removed, XTRACE enabled ... 5-linux26 rebuilding (takes a while)
20:33 < karasz> well hunting succesfull
21:01 < karasz> == 22:20:25 =[5]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.15-rc6 2.2.0-alpha].
21:01 < karasz> -> Parallel build using 6 jobs enabled.
21:01 < karasz> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far.
21:01 < karasz> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 0.00% (0 hits, 4347 misses)
21:01 < karasz> == 12/28/05 22:54:45 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26.
21:02 < karasz> :)
21:03 < karasz> but ccache hits 0.00% ? :(
21:03 < mnemoc> next time will be better :)
21:04 < karasz> next? 
21:04 < karasz> [5] is final i guess...
21:04 < karasz> anyway what are the diferences between vanila and mm?
21:05 < mnemoc> mm includes performance improvements
21:05 < mnemoc> afaik
21:06 < karasz> any link?
21:07 < karasz> nevermind
21:08 < mnemoc> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.15-rc5/2.6.15-rc5-mm3/announce.txt
21:09 < mnemoc> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.15-rc5/2.6.15-rc5-mm3/patch-list
21:09 < mnemoc> quite big list of patches merged on mm
21:29 < karasz> preemtive and low-latency?
21:30 < mnemoc> not sure
21:30 < mnemoc> but i guess yes
21:33 < karasz> yes
21:33 < karasz> preemtive and low-latency.
21:33 < karasz> not very sure about what that means because it is a little bit out of my league
21:33 < karasz> but anyway
21:34 < karasz> ok, we have mm but why not aa and ac?
21:34 < mnemoc> package them
21:34 < mnemoc> if you will maintain them
21:34 < karasz> :D
21:34 < karasz> yeah sure
21:35 < karasz> it is not a task that i can carry i am afraid...
21:35 < karasz> i was just wondering why somebody choosed mm over them...
21:37 < mnemoc> just take a look on linux26mm/*
21:37 < karasz> i can only package the kk patches...
21:37 < mnemoc> t2 packages are easy
21:37 < karasz> i am not afraid of packagin' but of maintaining
21:38 < mnemoc> :)
21:38 < karasz> == 22:55:06 =[5]=> Building base/linux26mm [2.6.15-rc5-mm3 2.2.0-alpha].
21:38 < karasz> -> Parallel build using 6 jobs enabled.
21:38 < karasz> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far.
21:38 < karasz> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
21:38 < karasz> -> Preparing build in src.linux26mm.karasz.20051228.225500.27174.karasz
21:38 < karasz> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-linux26mm.out -> 5-linux26mm.log
21:38 < karasz> == 12/28/05 23:31:27 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26mm.
21:39 < karasz> 36 minutes...
21:39 < karasz> took 15 minutes longer than vanila
21:40 < karasz> i can imagine a discussion on #kernel
21:40 < karasz> karasz: guys there is something wrong with the new patc for mm
21:41 < mnemoc> and consider vanilla includes the third party modules
21:41 < karasz> andrew: yeah i know i just made a patch to the patch
21:41 < mnemoc> you good need a pkg_linux26mm_*.conf on those packages to get built for mm
21:41 < karasz> andrew: apply patch ....patch
21:41 < mnemoc> nah
21:42 < mnemoc> it's not chaotic
21:42 < karasz> karasz: ok andrew can you tell me the exact syntax for aplyin' patches?
21:42 < karasz> andrew: 0_O .oO(get real or get out)Oo.
21:43 < mnemoc> LOL
21:43 < karasz> exactly
21:43 < karasz> so that's why you wont see an ac package from me
21:43 < karasz> at least not before 3.6
21:44 < mnemoc> :)
21:44 < mnemoc> 2.8 is distant enough
21:44 < karasz> if i can maintain the list i showed you i will consider myself worthy
21:44 < YeT2> ola ! ... 5-linux26 (2.6.14.2!) still having probs copying modules at the very end !  published under moalem.homeip.net/regressions.html
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21:58 < karasz> YeT2, do you use TEMPFS?
21:58 < rxr> re
21:58 < karasz> hello rxr 
21:58 < rxr> hi
21:58  * rxr back in berlin
21:58 < rxr> and I think my sgi Octane spare parts arrived
21:59  * rxr opening the package
21:59 < karasz> YeT2, disregard the previous question
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22:23 < YeT2> hi karasz ! sorry was phoning :)   .... nevermind the default fstab of 2.1.0 (my host os) has tmpfs disabled ;? but why should that be important
22:23 < karasz> it is not
22:24 < mnemoc> you can build your packages inside tmpfs (ram) for boosting
22:24 < karasz> i was talkin about use TMPFS in config
22:24 < karasz> but you do not have that enabled
22:24 < mnemoc> but probably you will get out of space for large packages
22:24 < karasz> mnemoc, he hasn't enabled that
22:24 < mnemoc> i know
22:24 < karasz> i checked his config
22:24 < mnemoc> :)
22:25 < karasz> maybe you run out of space ( i seriously doubt that)
22:25 < YeT2> because i´m quite happy with T2 i just checked trunk out ... but probably i will run into other (broken) packages ..?
22:26 < rxr> hi YeT2 
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22:26 < YeT2> maybe i shuld only copy the package definition only into yuletide ??!
22:26 < YeT2> hi rxr
22:28 < mnemoc> YeT2: yuletide is a 'beta' release of our development branch
22:28 < mnemoc> YeT2: not stable yet
22:28 < rxr> YeT2: best build from trunk - the worst part is the broken 3rd party module
22:30 < YeT2> ok ... this is what i finally concluded ... i thought yuled
22:30 < rxr> oh - cool
22:30 < YeT2> i thought yuletide is "a bit" closer to release 
22:31 < rxr> despite exchanging the system board with the nice, the MAC of the Octane kept the same ,-)
22:31 < mnemoc> it's "a bit" to release candidate
22:31 < mnemoc> closer*
22:31 < rxr> yuletide is mostly fine ,-) what is the exact problem?
22:32 < YeT2> well ... the problem is : the packages (eg linux26) are less up to date than in trunk ... stranh
22:32 < mnemoc> 2-boehm-gc/libtool issue, stoping the world, plus a few failures on stage 5
22:32 < mnemoc> is that a problem?
22:33 < mnemoc> what do you need from .15 which is not available on .14?
22:33 < YeT2> strange : linux26 out of trunk seems to build well according to karasz
22:33 < karasz> karasz is special
22:33 < YeT2> :)
22:34 < mnemoc> 3rd party modules are built inside linux26 package, they can break linux26
22:34 < mnemoc> disabling that 3rd party module should solve the issue
22:34 < mnemoc> YeT2: showing your 'regressions report' would be nice :)
22:36 < YeT2> uhmmm ... is it not reachable anymore ?
22:36 < rxr> ouhm
22:36 < mnemoc> i forgot the url, and rene has never seen it
22:36 < rxr> I have so many mips binary kernels on my tftp space I barely remeber which one was the last one I built that worked best ...
22:36 < rxr> damned
22:36 < mnemoc> *g*
22:37 < YeT2> ok :  moalem.homeip.net/regressions.html
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22:38 < rxr> l
22:38 < mnemoc> what did i say?
22:38 < karasz> www.moalem.homeip.net/regressions.html
22:39 < YeT2> hi ... just kicked myself out
22:39 < mnemoc> wb YeT2 
22:39 < karasz> rxr abiy YeT2 www.moalem.homeip.net/regressions.html
22:39 < YeT2> no www !
22:39 < mnemoc> works anyway ,-)
22:40 < YeT2> gnn
22:40 < mnemoc> but it's clickable
22:41 < mnemoc> YeT2: can you disable lazyfs and reschedule linux26?
22:41 < YeT2> yaeh ... mousophile
22:41 < mnemoc> don't expect me to type that
22:41 < YeT2> i will ... just a sec (or more)
22:42 < karasz> hmm
22:43 < karasz> mnemoc, should't he disable that other too?
22:43 < karasz> i mean the at76c503a?
22:43 < mnemoc> no idea if it's also on yulitide, and if it works there or not
22:44 < YeT2> i disabled lazyfs in my config and rm 5-linux26.err
22:44 < mnemoc> ok
22:44 < karasz> yuck, yuck
22:45 < karasz> i will have to emerge cdrecord, yuck yuck and another yuck
22:45 < rxr> flues around?
22:45 < YeT2> at76* already disabled 2 days ago !!  ...(and still)
22:46 < karasz> flues?
22:47 < rxr> hm
22:48 < karasz> i had probs only with thoose two at76c503a and lazyfs
22:48 < karasz> so YeT2 you should be fine from now on...
22:49 < YeT2> ok ... i'm curious now :)
22:50 < YeT2> still hanging on some bloddy kde stuff (broken too ... but not essential now)
22:50 < YeT2> uhh bloody
22:50 < karasz> hmm linux24 built fine YeT2 ?
22:50 < YeT2> nope ... already disabled !
22:50 < karasz> good
22:51 < YeT2> hehe ... thx to the hints of mnemoc last night
22:51 < karasz> == 12/29/05 00:44:46 =[5]=> Aborted building package pcre.
22:51 < karasz> !> Creation of binary package isn't possible, because the package was not
22:51 < karasz> !> built successfully in (at least) the current stage.
22:52 < rxr> karasz: what are you building ?
22:52 < karasz> desktop
22:52 < karasz> from trunk
22:53 < mnemoc> next disable gcc and binutils :)
22:53 < karasz> :D
22:53 < karasz> ok master
22:53 < rxr> no just joking
22:53 < rxr> is the pcre error online somewhere ?
22:54 < karasz> everytime when he says something like that i greet him with `master`
22:54 < rxr> btw - me shorlty off soon to grab some food - barely got some today
22:54 < YeT2> pcre is not in standard desktop ?!
22:54 < karasz> rxr i can put it online in 25 secs if you want
22:55 < rxr> karasz: yes, please
22:55 < karasz> no need for please
22:56 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/upload/fis/5-pcre.err.txt
22:56 < rxr> oh - -5 degree here
22:57 < karasz> ouch
22:57 < mnemoc> 32°C here
22:57 < karasz> could not read symbols: File in wrong format
22:57 < karasz> looks serious...
22:57 < rxr> mnemoc: snow here ...
22:57 < karasz> mnemoc, stop complaining
22:57 < karasz> it is not that much
22:57 < rxr> most probably tomorrow will be the coldest snowiest day over here this year
22:57  * karasz hides deep
22:57 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - what do you build?
22:58 < rxr> err
22:58 < rxr> karasz: what do you build?
22:58 < rxr> karasz: do you cross build or build from amd64 -> amd64 ?
22:58 < karasz> amd->amd
22:58 < karasz> with 64 ofcourse
22:58 < rxr> /usr/lib64/../lib/libstdc++.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
22:58 < rxr> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
22:58 < rxr> make: *** [pcrecpp_unittest] Error 1
22:58 < rxr> hm - that should not happen
22:58 < rxr> in fact never did here
22:59 < rxr> maybe for a strance reason you have not got all libstdc++s ...
22:59 < karasz> i choosed optimize for em64t
22:59 < karasz> on the build i mean
23:00 < karasz> but how can i end up with mixed stuff?
23:01 < karasz> i installed x86-64 on a fresh system
23:01 < karasz> so no host except T2
23:02 < rxr> usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.6:   ELF 32-bit MSB shared object, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:02 < rxr> usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.6: ELF 64-bit MSB shared object, cisco 7500, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:02 < rxr> karasz: though - maybe it is libtool unk
23:02 < rxr> junk
23:02 < mnemoc> cisco?
23:02 < rxr> you can try to rebuild pcre with the [F] LIBTOOL-QUIRK
23:03 < rxr> toin the pcre.desc
23:03 < rxr> mnemoc: secret ondertakings ...
23:03 < karasz> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: symbolic link to `../lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/32/libstdc++.so.6'
23:03 < karasz> /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: symbolic link to `gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libstdc++.so.6'
23:04 < rxr> file -L usr/lib*/libstdc++*.so.?.?.?
23:04 < rxr> -L
23:04 < rxr> mnemoc: seriously, this is either a file bug or feature or a bit in the ELF header is shared between PPC and Cisco whatever
23:04 < rxr> mnemoc: this is "just" powerpc64 of t2 ...
23:04 < karasz> root@karasz:~# file /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/lib/libgcc_s.so.1
23:04 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/lib/libgcc_s.so.1: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:06 < karasz> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:06 < karasz> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.6: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:06 < karasz> why do i have 32 bits?
23:06 < mnemoc> lib has always 32bits
23:06 < mnemoc> lib64/ has 64bits
23:07 < karasz> /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:07 < mnemoc> happy now? ,-)
23:07 < karasz> /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6.0.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:07 < karasz> yes
23:07 < karasz> not really
23:07 < mnemoc> :(
23:07 < karasz> pcre is still how do i say it.... confused
23:08 < rxr> that the libgcc_s is not 64 bit is strange
23:08 < rxr> is that from your installed yuletide or within the newly built system
23:08 < rxr> ?
23:09 < rxr> lib/libgcc_s.so.1:   ELF 32-bit MSB shared object, PowerPC or cisco 4500, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:09 < rxr> lib64/libgcc_s.so.1: ELF 64-bit MSB shared object, cisco 7500, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:10 < rxr> one libgcc_s.so should of course be 64 bit and the lib64 one of yours does not look so
23:10 < karasz> installed
23:10 < rxr> ah - no I misread it
23:10 < karasz> i have both 32 and 64
23:11 < rxr> you need to look into your new system to find out why inside the sandbox 5-pcre fails
23:11 < rxr> outside looks ok - maybe there is something gone wrong within
23:11 < rxr> but I have to hunt food now
23:12 < mnemoc> jungle is closed
23:12 < rxr> mnemoc: well, ...
23:12 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. I stripped down iproute2 in the train to just what we mostly need
23:12 < rxr> it is still huge
23:12 < rxr> e.g. 10x of what I would like to have
23:12 < rxr> e.g. to just set ip and gateway from the 1st stage installer
23:13 < rxr> I fear I have to rip of just those relevant codelines ... into a custom ip.c to get it around 10k
23:13 < rxr> right now it still is around 100k ... :((
23:13 < rxr> so /me back soon
23:13 < karasz> root@karasz:~# file -L /usr/src/t2-trunk/build/karasz-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-em64t-desktop/usr/lib/libstdc++.so
23:13 < karasz> /usr/src/t2-trunk/build/karasz-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-em64t-desktop/usr/lib/libstdc++.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:13 < karasz> root@karasz:~# file -L /usr/src/t2-trunk/build/karasz-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-em64t-desktop/usr/lib64/libstdc++.so
23:13 < karasz> /usr/src/t2-trunk/build/karasz-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-em64t-desktop/usr/lib64/libstdc++.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
23:13 < karasz> looks ok one 32 the other 64
23:14 < rxr> libgcc_s as well?
23:14 < rxr> can you tar up the src.pcre* and sent it to me - I would like to investigate
23:14 < rxr> btw. does most other stuff just build or do you have a lot failures ?
23:14 < karasz> mostly builds fine
23:14 < YeT2> just updated my regression report under http:\\moalem.homeip.net\regressions.html
23:15 < karasz> except pcre just the two kernel modules and linux24 failed
23:15 < mnemoc> YeT2: wrong slash
23:16 < YeT2> bad news : 5-linux26 fails with same insane reason (could not find /tmp/tmp .... blah at the end!!!)
23:16 < YeT2> ooops ;)
23:17 < YeT2> windoze gets me dozing
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23:20 < karasz> :(
23:23 < YeT2> the /tmp/tmp.blah exists ! the structure with some basic dirs exists but under /lib/modules  EMPTY
23:24 < karasz> rxr where do you want it?
23:25 < YeT2> i think rxr is still hunting ... :)
23:27 < YeT2> strange : in my build root under /lib/modules/linux ...-dist some dirs with some modules EXIST ... i don't know if all ... from stage 1 ??
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23:32 < YeT2> hmm ... maybe i should disable hostap as well ...
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23:34 < mnemoc> YeT2: some hackery is need to build 3rd party modules on t2, take a look into package/*/*/postlinux.conf
23:35 < YeT2> ok ... thx i will ... so i saying bye for now !
23:39 < rxr> re
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23:40 < rxr> I think yet2 problem is a mkinitrd but already fixed in trunk
23:40 < rxr> where I accidently commited >/dev/null in the long line without much testing ...
23:40 < rxr> fixed 24 h or so ago
23:40  * rxr wondering if I can still call valentin
23:41 < CIA-2> aldas * r14250 /trunk/package/base/htop/htop.desc: * updated htop (0.5.4 -> 0.6)
23:41 < karasz> rxr i mailed you
23:42 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll point him to that diff if he returns
23:49 < valentin> re
23:49 < karasz> wb valentin 
23:49 < mnemoc> wb valentin 
23:49 < karasz> mnemoc, ;)
23:52 < valentin> hi mnemoc karasz rxr
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