T2 IRC Log: 2005-12-27

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--- Log opened Tue Dec 27 00:00:16 2005
00:00 * rxr could slap linux hackers ...
00:01 < karasz> init 5 not workin' thou
00:01 < karasz> but who cares i am confident that it can be hacked somehow ;)
00:02 < mnemoc> init 5 simply telinit to start stuff from stage 5 on /etc/inittab and start stuff at /etc/rc.d/init.d/rc5.d/S*
00:04 < rxr> .oO
00:04 < rxr> I think I accidently removed a 2 from 2> in mkinitrd
00:04 < rxr> f*ck vi
00:05 < rxr> huh?
00:05 < rxr> not even accidently
00:05 < rxr> - find $moddir/kernel -type f | grep \
00:05 < rxr> + find $moddir/kernel -type f >/dev/null | grep \
00:06 < rxr> either I was half asleep when I did this - or svn f*cked up the diff
00:07 < CIA-20> rene * r14233 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/mkinitrd: * fixed r14156, moved the > /dev/null to the correct line :-((
00:07 < rxr> that was 5-linux26 issue on powerpc build
00:07 < rxr> that should be 0 build errors in minimal of trunk now
00:07 < mnemoc> :)
00:08 < mnemoc> nice flood i guess you had :)
00:08 * mnemoc moving home
00:08 < rxr> flood ?
00:08 < mnemoc> find output
00:08 < rxr> yeah
00:08 < rxr> zoro
00:08 < rxr> mnemoc: have you been at work ?
00:08 < mnemoc> i'm at office
00:08 < rxr> hm
00:08 < mnemoc> ?
00:08 < rxr> public holiday over here
00:09 < mnemoc> it's monday
00:09 < mnemoc> :)
00:09 < rxr> it's holiday ,-)
00:09 < mnemoc> not here
00:09 < rxr> the two after christmas are
00:09 < rxr> and christmas is a half or so
00:09 < rxr> cu mnemoc
00:09 * rxr in bed in some minutes
00:10 * mnemoc in bike in some minutes :p
00:10 < karasz> cu guys
00:10 < mnemoc> cu ,-)
00:10 < karasz> mnemoc, ...
00:11 < karasz> still here?
00:11 < karasz> rxr maybe?
00:12 < karasz> that is all i have in rc5.d http://karasz.pastebin.ca/34940
00:12 < karasz> guess that is not too much
00:16 < rxr> the runlevels are rather empty by default
00:16 < rxr> should be enough for the start
00:16 < rxr> stone has the runlvel editor
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01:10 < mnemoc> rehi
01:16 < rxr> hi
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01:19 < mnemoc> hi rxr
01:19 < mnemoc> wb madtux
01:20 < madtux> danke
01:20 < mnemoc> http://www.samorost2.net/
01:20 < madtux> ready
01:25 < rxr> hi miguel
01:25 * rxr has no flash
01:25 < mnemoc> it's packaged :)
01:25 < karasz> re hi mnemoc
01:26 < mnemoc> hi karasz
01:26 < rxr> mnemoc: for powerpc ?
01:26 < rxr> for mips ?
01:26 < rxr> for sparc ?
01:26 < mnemoc> rxr: uhm, i doubt :p
01:26 < rxr> hehe
01:26 < rxr> and on x86 I do not use untrusted code ...
01:26 < mnemoc> the open source flash player is evil
01:27 < mnemoc> i have tried it
01:27 * rxr too
01:27 < rxr> not the best
01:27 < rxr> but untrusted code might delete my .mp3, office bills or other files I need
01:27 < rxr> yes, I could su unstrusted-account, but ...
01:27 * Baldzius has no sound in flash
01:28 < Baldzius> :)
01:28 * mnemoc has no sound at all :)
01:28 < Baldzius> l0l
01:28 < rxr> I could also configure selinux / rsbac in a way not to give flash.so write access to any file I guess ...
01:29 < madtux> mnemoc, u can make ur own mixes as u type... there is no need of a sound card.. just creativity and a bit of speed with the fingers
01:30 < CIA-20> rene * r14234 /trunk/architecture/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
01:30 < CIA-20> * enabled SYSV_IPC since it is not default on on certain 2.6 kernels
01:30 < CIA-20> at least for powerpc
01:30 < CIA-20> * cleaned powerpc* configs, not to disable SMP and ALTIVEC accidently
01:30 < rxr> ok - thats it for me tonight
01:30 * rxr off into bed - cu
01:30 < LMJ> see you
01:31 < rxr> ouhm
01:31 < rxr> 2.6.15-rc5-mm2 or so
01:31 < rxr> does not suspend to RAM anymore
01:31 < rxr> stopping tasks failed (1 tasks remaining)
01:31 < rxr> Restarting tasks...<6> Strange, kedac not stopped
01:31 < rxr> :-(
01:31 < rxr> well - power-off then ...
01:31 < rxr> have a good n8
01:33 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr
01:33 < karasz> gn8 rxr
01:34 < karasz> XFree86-VidModeExtension
01:34 < karasz> in templkate is omit
01:34 < karasz> but someone is lookin for it
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01:38 < karasz> can i make a Load "XFree86-VidModeExtension" in xorg.conf?
01:39 < madtux> Xorg-VidModeExtension
01:40 < karasz> the display does not support XShape extension ???
01:40 < madtux> :S
01:42 < karasz> X run away again
01:43 < karasz> root 21265 0.0 0.1 4392 1120 vc/1 S+ 03:35 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11/bin/startx
01:43 < karasz> root 21281 0.0 0.0 7728 760 vc/1 S+ 03:35 0:00 xinit /usr/X11R7/lib64/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- -auth /root/.serverauth.21265
01:43 < karasz> root 21282 96.0 0.6 44160 6472 ? R 02:00 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
02:01 < karasz_> why don't i have a xshape capable enviroment?
02:06 < karasz> i have to rest
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02:07 < karasz> killed too much braincells today :(
02:07 < karasz> so cu tomorrow
02:07 < karasz> bye
02:07 < Baldzius> :)
02:07 < Baldzius> gn8 karasz
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04:07 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1 TAGGED and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
04:07 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Mon Dec 26 15:20:28 2005]
04:07 [Users #t2]
04:07 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20] [ karasz] [ mtr_] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
04:07 [ _Ragnar_] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ ojh ] [ sepp_]
04:07 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ Stelz]
04:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
04:07 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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05:34 < CIA-20> amery * r14235 /tags/2.1.1/package/develop/boehm-gc/boehm-gc.conf: * fixed boehm-gc's libtool quirk to only copy it if it's available
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05:42 < CIA-20> amery * r14236 /branches/2.1/package/develop/boehm-gc/boehm-gc.conf: * merged 14235 from 2.1.1: fixed boehm-gc's libtool quirk to only copy it if it's available
05:54 * Stelz is back (gone 06:19:02)
05:55 < Stelz> moin all :)
06:01 < mnemoc> gn8 Stelz ,-)
06:01 < Stelz> :))
06:01 < Stelz> 'night, mnemoc
06:02 * Stelz Date/Time is now [ Tue Dec 27 08:00:19 ]
06:02 < Stelz> hehe
06:02 < mnemoc> -6 here
06:02 < Stelz> yep :)
06:02 < mnemoc> gn8 Stelz
06:02 < mnemoc> gn8 karasz_ ,-)
06:03 < Stelz> gn :)
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07:52 < mipe> hmm, quite a many packages fail on configure (grep error) and trying to link with libstdc++ 32bit and not with 64bit
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08:40 < mipe> http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/ERROR-LOG
08:40 < mipe> why are there -L/BACKUP/...?
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09:36 < mtr> moin, and happy xmas to you all :)
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10:43 < Stelz> merry xmas, mtr :)
11:52 < mipe> 998 builds total, 663 completed fine, 40 with errors.
11:53 < mipe> but most of failing packages are due some wierd configure script grep fail and trying to link against 32bit library while it should be linking on 64bit
12:13 < rxr> re
12:22 < mipe> hi rxr
12:33 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz
12:33 < karasz> hello all
12:35 < karasz> moin rxr
12:42 < karasz> now i make an emerge repository xorg
12:42 < karasz> i guess i miss something but i don't know what
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13:24 < mipe> is there any webspace available to post regression logs?
13:26 < karasz> mipe, pastebin?
13:28 < mipe> they take space... /var/adm/logs is now 105M, dont remember if RegressionReport takes all the log files or just the *.err but they are in lots of megs too
13:29 < karasz> oops
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13:44 < karasz> haliho, haliho
13:46 < Stelz> ;D
13:46 < Stelz> hi, karasz
13:46 < Stelz> & merry x-mas
13:46 < karasz> merry indeed
13:46 < karasz> 2 u 2
13:46 < Stelz> ;)
13:46 < karasz> rxr around?
13:47 < karasz> problem solved rxr
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14:01 < keinek> morning :P
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14:27 < rxr> re
14:30 < rxr> yay: http://www.golem.de/0512/42381.html
14:32 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.jp/
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14:33 < madtux> hello.
14:33 < rxr> hi miguel
14:33 < rxr> yay: http://www.golem.de/0512/42381.html
14:33 < rxr> ouhm: http://www.t2-project.jp/
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14:35 < rxr> moin misl
14:36 < rxr> yay: http://www.golem.de/0512/42381.html
14:36 < rxr> ouhm: http://www.t2-project.jp/
14:41 < Stelz> :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
14:41 < Stelz> rxr: nice
15:25 < mnemoc> uhm?
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15:32 < mnemoc> moin! :)
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15:54 < karasz> hello again
15:54 < Stelz> hi, karasz
15:54 < mnemoc> hi nzg, karasz, Stelz
15:54 < karasz> hi mnemoc
15:54 < nzg> moin
15:55 < karasz> even Stelz
15:55 < Stelz> mnemoc: hello :)
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16:15 < rxr> hi mnemoc
16:15 [Users #t2]
16:15 [@ChanServ] [ demian] [ LMJ ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ valentin]
16:15 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ madtux] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr ]
16:15 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mipe ] [ mubex_] [ sparc-kly]
16:15 [ CIA-20 ] [ keinek] [ misl ] [ nzg ] [ Stelz ]
16:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 21 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal]
16:16 < mnemoc> hi rxr!
16:17 < mnemoc> how were your ppc builds?
16:18 < rxr> built minimal* of trunk
16:18 < rxr> stable will follow then
16:18 < mnemoc> :D
16:18 < rxr> do you also want powerpc64 bits in 2.1 ?
16:18 < mnemoc> i had to fix boehm-gc on the tag
16:18 < mnemoc> if it's possible....
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16:25 < karasz> mnemoc: ?
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16:27 < mnemoc> karasz: ?
16:28 < madtux> madtux ?
16:29 < karasz> mnemoc: i installed aterm
16:29 < karasz> it installed afterstep
16:29 < karasz> both built fine
16:29 < karasz> when launching aterm it say
16:30 < karasz> aterm: can't load color "White", colorID = 0. (29)
16:30 < karasz> two times
16:30 < karasz> then aterm: aborting
16:31 < mnemoc> o.o
16:31 < karasz> i have to go now but i will be back on this
16:40 < CIA-20> rene * r14237 /trunk/package/network/mininet/ (. mininet.cache mininet.conf mininet.desc): * added mininet (2005-12-26) - Very small network utilities
16:40 < rxr> karasz: emerge rgb ,-)
16:43 < CIA-20> rene * r14238 /trunk/package/x11/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode.desc: * updated rxvt-unicode (5.9 -> 6.1)
16:43 < mnemoc> xorg7 :)
16:44 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
16:44 < rxr> the rgb color txt file is a seperate package
16:44 < rxr> as are xcursor-themes and the like
16:44 < rxr> every font is a single package
16:45 < rxr> well - ok - rgb package includes even more:
16:45 < rxr> rgb: usr/X11R7/bin/showrgb
16:45 < rxr> rgb: usr/X11R7/man/man1/showrgb.1x
16:45 < rxr> rgb: usr/X11R7/share/X11/rgb.txt
16:45 < rxr> ,-)
16:45 < mnemoc> :)
16:45 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
16:45 < rxr> also the xkb rules are in packages ...
16:45 < rxr> a bit fine grained - but better than the monolyth
16:45 < rxr> hi _Ragnar_ ,-)
16:45 < _Ragnar_> they took the splitting up a little too far imho
16:46 < mnemoc> rxr: fine grained but a dependency mess :p
16:46 < mnemoc> rxr: just what you hate from gnome
16:47 < _Ragnar_> indeed
16:47 < _Ragnar_> btw with selinux enables 1-shadow seems to depend on libselinux
16:47 < _Ragnar_> enabled
16:48 < mnemoc> enalbe selinux only if you want to use ti
16:48 < mnemoc> it
16:48 < rxr> mnemoc: not too much of a depedency mass
16:49 < rxr> also x.org just works - while gnome is just segfaulting ...
16:49 < mnemoc> :)
16:49 < _Ragnar_> :D
16:49 < mnemoc> i guess gnome maintainer needs a bit more spanking
16:50 * mnemoc hides fast
16:50 * madtux wonders who the gnome mantainer is
16:51 * Stelz hates gnome anywat..
16:51 < Stelz> *anyway :)
16:51 < rxr> good that susan deleted most occurances of my name in the gnome packages from rock tiem when she once updated them ...
16:52 < mnemoc> :)
16:53 < rxr> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 20113 Dec 20 02:27 /bin/ping
16:53 < rxr> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19608 Dec 27 16:52 /usr/embutils/ping
16:53 < rxr> the later is diet
16:53 * _Ragnar_ grins
16:54 < CIA-20> rene * r14239 /trunk/package/network/mininet/mininet.conf: * fixed mininet bindir overwrite to usr/embutils
16:54 < rxr> the former is dynamically linked
16:54 < rxr> but I only packaged the so far mostly useless mininet to add an diet "ip" for use on the 1st stage install disk for network installs
16:55 * mnemoc likes busybox aproach
16:56 < rxr> mnemoc: busybox is a ugly monolyth
16:56 * rxr mostly hates it as hell
16:56 < mnemoc> but lot of size saved
16:57 < rxr> why, where ?
16:57 < mnemoc> monolyth busybox + symlinks is lighter than embutils
16:57 < rxr> well - to some degree
16:57 < rxr> though dynamic dietlibc would help there
16:58 < rxr> notheless just using some tools for the initrd here and another tool for a vserver there does not really fit with busybox
16:58 < mnemoc> ack
16:59 < mnemoc> yuck yuck yuck.... /me hates clipper and wants to finish tail, sam and sde :( yuck yuck yuck
17:00 < rxr> also on a 286 with busybox your RAM is filled
17:00 < rxr> while with embutils you have just what you run in memory ...
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17:00 < mnemoc> uhm
17:01 < rxr> evil comparision ?
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17:04 < mnemoc> yeah :)
17:04 < mnemoc> that was cheating
17:09 * rxr never cheats
17:12 < mnemoc> :)
17:15 < Stelz> :)
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18:07 < karasz> re
18:07 < karasz> i emerged rgb long ago
18:08 < VX> hi, karasz
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18:43 < karasz> Relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `memset@@GLIBC_2.2.5' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
18:43 < karasz> tryin to emerge firefox
18:44 < karasz> is my glibc obsolete or what?
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18:45 < karasz> any of the more experienced guys?
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18:53 < misl> hi folks :)
18:53 < karasz> hi minto
18:55 < madtux> yar.
18:58 < rxr> re
19:03 < misl> 2.1 branch minimal with amd64 opteron optimization builds fine.
19:03 < misl> 2.1 branch minimal for x86 no optimization fails in gettext :(
19:04 < karasz> rxr did you saw that glibc stuff earlier?
19:04 < karasz> btw re hi rxr, sorry for that ;)
19:05 < mnemoc> x86 noopt has been faling for looooong time.... i think we should remove that
19:05 < mnemoc> karasz: are you mixing trees?
19:05 < misl> mnemoc: I will try a ia32 build with optimization.
19:05 < karasz> i have installed 2.2.0 minimal and emerging from trunk
19:08 < misl> mnemoc: Should I try to do a minimal ia32 build for every possible optimization?
19:11 < mnemoc> nah
19:12 < madtux> mnemoc, let Lord Minto play :)
19:13 < mnemoc> :)
19:13 * mnemoc wonders why his entry at /mnt/space/cron.reboot.t2 is not properly executed by cron
19:17 < madtux> *G* my cousin just called for the zillion time this mourning to ask me yet more questions about his mandrake box
19:18 < madtux> is it too evil if i suggested to run badblock -w on the box to make sure his hard drives are ok?
19:18 < madtux> badblocks*
19:19 < mnemoc> :)
19:19 < madtux> tomorrow he will run t2
19:19 < madtux> :)
19:19 < mnemoc> he needs to be sure his disk is ok :)
19:19 < madtux> absolutetly
19:19 < madtux> i'm such a nice guy.
19:21 < madtux> i guess i will apologize when he calls and tell him it was a typo and i ment -v
19:21 < misl> mnemoc: these ia32 builds do they need to be specified cross-build?
19:22 * misl wonders too why mnemoc's entry is not working.
19:22 < misl> cron does execute that file. When I log on I have one screen session with 2 windows.
19:24 < mnemoc> i got my screen running, but the HOME relocation doesn't work
19:24 < mnemoc> even considering it works when calling it by hand
19:25 < karasz> guys which is that OpenGL package?
19:29 < mnemoc> ?
19:33 < karasz> checking for -lGL... no
19:33 < karasz> !> checking for -lMesaGL... no
19:33 < karasz> !> configure: error: OpenGL libraries not available
19:34 < karasz> so i guess i need OpenGL libraries...
19:35 < misl> yuck, noisy halted
19:38 < mnemoc> :(
19:38 < rxr> karasz: mesa
19:38 < misl> I have to make shutting down noisy more user friendly
19:39 < karasz> -force
19:39 < misl> something like: shutdown -h +5 "That's all folks! cu tomorrow"
19:40 < karasz> rxr did you saw that glibc stuff earlier?
19:44 < mnemoc> i'll change 'my line' to bash -c "..." .... i hope that helps
19:55 < rxr> karasz: hm - strange
19:55 < rxr> karasz: you can try adding [F] FPIC-QUIRK to the firefox.desc
19:57 < karasz> rxr i have mesa installed
19:57 < karasz> but wxwidgets still complai about -lGL and -lOpenGL
19:59 < karasz> where do i add the [F] tag?
19:59 < karasz> before O or between O and D?
20:00 < mnemoc> after [C]
20:01 < rxr> karasz: the order does not matter
20:01 < rxr> it is just cosmetically
20:01 < karasz> oki
20:01 < karasz> added after [C] ;)
20:07 * misl wants to play with the 2.2.0 live cd, cu later
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20:09 < rxr> after some look into iproute and the busybox cut'n paste I wonder whether I really want to writ the diet ip ...
20:12 < karasz> same error
20:12 < karasz> but i guess that not firefox should be built with fPIC
20:12 < karasz> but the library on which it depends
20:13 < karasz> /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.2/../../../../x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: jsapi.o: relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against `memset@@GLIBC_2.2.5' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
20:13 < rxr> if firefox builds a .so it must be -fPIC
20:14 < rxr> karasz: can you paste some lines above that
20:14 < karasz> yes
20:14 < karasz> but just here
20:16 < karasz> rxr it is on #flood
20:16 < mnemoc> karasz: http://www.rafb.net/paste/
20:17 < karasz> i have no browser mnemoc
20:17 < mnemoc> links :)
20:18 < karasz> sure
20:18 < karasz> right away
20:26 < karasz> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Ph84x991.html
20:26 < karasz> just to comply with mnemoc 's request
20:27 < rxr> karasz: i also only have links right now - taking a look into it might take some more time
20:28 < karasz> no problem rxr
20:28 < karasz> i have other stuff to emerge
20:46 < mnemoc> karasz: it wasn't a request, was a suggestion for your 'no browser' problem
20:46 < karasz> ;)
20:46 < karasz> i knew that
20:47 < mnemoc> karasz: did FPIC-QUIRK help?
20:47 < karasz> nope
20:47 < karasz> same issue
20:47 < mnemoc> -fPIC is on the command line...
20:47 < karasz> i kinda solved my no browser issue otherway
20:47 < karasz> ??
20:48 < karasz> `karasz: you can try adding [F] FPIC-QUIRK to the firefox.desc`
20:52 < karasz> `-fPIC is on the command line...`
20:52 < karasz> how does thoose two match?
20:53 < mnemoc> i _see_ -fPIC -shared on your paste
20:53 < mnemoc> so gcc should be happy, but it's not
20:54 < karasz> gcc tends to be that way...
20:54 < karasz> i mean unhappy
20:54 < karasz> that paste was after i made the [F] tag
20:57 < karasz> i will go blind...
20:57 < karasz> my xchat is dark-grey on black o_O
20:58 < rxr> maybe really some othe rlibrary
20:59 < karasz> should i paste the whole err?
21:08 < karasz> is there a prob with blackdown-jdk?
21:09 < karasz> no, just my connection is wonderfull
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22:39 * Stelz is away: dropped to bed
22:39 < Stelz> 'night all
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22:59 < karasz> cu guys
22:59 < karasz> mnemoc:
22:59 < karasz> i got fed up with this now
22:59 < karasz> so i am startin' a build from trunk
22:59 < karasz> no more emerge
23:00 < karasz> but linux 2.6.12?
23:00 < karasz> is that ok? i mean the headers
23:01 < mnemoc> no problem
23:01 < karasz> anybody awake?
23:01 < karasz> ok
23:01 < karasz> but trunk is not 2.6.15?
23:02 < mnemoc> linux-header doesn't need to be equal to running kernel
23:02 < karasz> i made a svn up t2-trunk
23:02 < karasz> forgot the header, i was talkin' bull
23:02 < karasz> in fact is the kernel, not the headers
23:04 < mnemoc> i see 2.6.15-rc6 on trunk
23:04 < karasz> it sau Downloading linx-header: download /mirror/l/linux-2.6.12.tar.bz2
23:04 < karasz> i saw that too
23:04 < karasz> so i messed up something
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23:05 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc 2.6.15-rc6
23:05 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/linux-header/linux-header.desc 2.6.12.5
23:09 < CIA-20> aldas * r14240 /trunk/package/multimedia/gxine/gxine.desc: * updated gxine (0.4.9 -> 0.5.3)
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23:10 < karasz> bye
23:10 < karasz> cu tommorow
23:14 < rxr> cu karasz
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23:23 < veki> I got OpenDesktop Workstation by Genesi www.genesi-usa.com which is based on powerPC. I would liek to try T@ on it. Is there any dekstop version of T2 possible to test on PowerPC?
23:24 < rxr> yes
23:24 < rxr> veki: there are 2.1.0 ISOs for PPC
23:24 < rxr> G3 optmized
23:25 < rxr> veki: I think they might not work without tweaks on the genesys
23:25 < rxr> I was various patches / quirks floating around for those
23:25 < veki> this one is G4, you can check it is pegasos PPCII platform
23:25 < rxr> the G3 image will just run on G4s
23:25 < rxr> as a pentium will run on a athlon
23:25 < veki> hm, so you suggest that I can try and if tweaks are needed , a couple of sleepless nights iwll not do harm to me...
23:26 < rxr> veki: it just might miss openfirmware hackery to boot or platform drivers for IDE or chipset or so
23:26 < rxr> just try
23:26 < rxr> would be cool if you collect missing patches into the t2 linux kernel package
23:26 < veki> it is possible to boot form openfirmware by issuig command boot cd /directory/boot -image any
23:27 < rxr> hm
23:27 < rxr> open firmware can only read HFS filesysmtes
23:27 < rxr> try if the CD boots
23:28 < veki> on genesi machine it can read iso9660, opensuseGM10 waqs burned and by issuing commpand boot cd /opensuse/boot.img installation proces started
23:29 < rxr> ok - iso9660 it can do as well
23:29 < rxr> try if "boot cd" works
23:30 < rxr> if not I can pick up the filename it should use
23:43 < veki> I will try tonight to download g3 image and try to install it tomorrow. Isuppose, I can ask questions if needed :-)
23:43 < veki> I see two iso images fro G3. I will download them and check
23:43 < veki> rxr: openDesktopWorkstation does have ATIRAdeon 9200 graphic adapter, 80GBHD Maxtor, and all other things that are covered by Linux, since it came with Debian, gentoo and Ubuntu preinstalled
23:44 < veki> thus, I supppose that there will not be problems with drivers etc. As far as openfirmware is concerned during the boot process it asks to press certain key to get to its command line and then issue command boot cd/placehwrebootimage is/imagefile-any
23:45 < veki> Ok, we will be in touch :-)
23:45 < veki> usually it does not work with just boot cd, it is needed to specify the path and name of boot image
23:46 < veki> thus, my recommendation is to put boot image file so I can point to it and tell to openfirmware to choose it for booting
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