T2 IRC Log: 2005-12-12

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--- Log opened Mon Dec 12 00:00:10 2005
00:08 * VX is away: dropped to bed..
00:41 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178170248.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
00:41 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
00:41 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
00:41 [Users #t2]
00:41 [@ChanServ ] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ ] [ nzg] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
00:41 [ _Ragnar__] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc] [ ojh] [ sparc-kly ] [ VX ]
00:41 [ CIA-8 ] [ kristian] [ mtr ] [ owl] [ sparc-kly[WORK]]
00:41 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
00:41 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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02:56 < mnemoc> finally back home
02:56 < mnemoc> what a discusting day
03:04 < ojh> mnemoc: ???
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03:06 < mnemoc> we had voting... presindent, senator, and 'diputado', and i was in charge of one of the voting 'tables'... from 6:15 to 21:30 and *lot* of problems, hunger and 37°C
03:08 < ojh> mnemoc: IC
03:11 < mnemoc> and, as i was president of the table i have to go tomorrow again to 'present' the results to the 'electoral college' from 14:00 to 'who knows' :\
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03:53 < kristian> moin
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06:34 < rxr> ~re
06:35 < ojh> rxr: Hi.
06:35 < rxr> hi ojh !
06:35 < rxr> ojh: in which timezone are you ?
06:36 < ojh> rxr: Pacific coast, USA.
06:38 < ojh> rxr: I have made progress designing the - what started out as a program launcher - tool for ZDE. It has morphed into a generic file metedata quering tool. See the update on http://zirconium.xisystems.net/
06:40 < rxr> ojh: ah, cool ,-)
06:42 < ojh> rxr: I discovered that SQLight can do concurent access to DB files with out resorting to being server based. I am thinking that the Indexer just dumps data into the database file and Scout just has to query it back out.
06:43 < rxr> uh - bash -3.1 is out
06:43 < CIA-8> rene * r13862 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.6.3 -> 0.6.4)
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07:24 < rxr> cu
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09:22 < mipe> Error logs from desktop-2.1-stable-x86-64-athlon64-desktop:
09:22 < mipe> 678 builds total, 670 completed fine, 8 with errors.
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09:45 < mtr> moin
10:31 < mipe> hmm, why nssdb is patched to link against berkely db static and not dynamic?
10:39 < mipe> 678 builds total, 672 completed fine, 6 with errors.
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12:08 * VX is back (gone 01:03:27)
12:09 -!- VX is now known as Xenos
12:12 < rxr> hi
12:12 < Xenos> hello, rxr
12:19 < rxr> hi Xenos
12:19 < karasz> moin all
12:20 < rxr> moin karasz
12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r13864 /trunk/package/shells/bash/ (4 files): * updated bash (3.0 -> 3.1)
12:20 < CIA-9> rene * r13863 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-parser/perl-html-parser.desc: * updated perl-html-parser (3.46 -> 3.48)
12:21 < CIA-9> rene * r13865 /trunk/package/develop/boost/ (boost.conf boost.desc): * updated boost (1.33.0 -> 1_33_1) - no manual install hackery anymore
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13:13 < CIA-9> rene * r13866 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
13:13 < CIA-9> * reverted r13810, generating of PS instead of PDF in the archivista target
13:13 < CIA-9> (because this bring other trouble in post-processing)
13:13 < CIA-9> * instead keep the jobs (PS) near the freshly generated PDF
13:24 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2
13:24 < madtux> hello.
13:30 < rxr> moin miguel ,-)
13:30 < madtux> hi Rene :)
13:30 < rxr> how is the world over there today ?
13:30 < madtux> a bit cold and cloudy atm.. but it will all go away in a couple of hours max
13:30 < madtux> how about in germany?
13:31 < rxr> old as well, winter here ... but thats ok (for me (tm))
13:31 < rxr> ^-c
13:31 < madtux> I have been talking to holyolli he is finding me some cheap tickets to go to germany next year .. i am planning to go see germany kick our ass at the opening game of the world cup, and visit friends.
13:38 < rxr> holiolli is still on the net? have not seen him for years now
13:40 < madtux> well not doing much development as he is more into his career (pilot) but i always keep track of my friends.
13:41 < madtux> I would even call you every once in while.. but i've heard its dangerious to call you... specially if you are focused on comercial pieces of code.
13:41 < rxr> since when is it dagerous to call me ?
13:44 < madtux> I've just heard its dangerous to break ur concentration.
13:44 < madtux> but hey.. maybe one of this days i will ya just to bug a bit.
13:44 < madtux> :)
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14:23 < CIA-9> rene * r13867 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (etc/cups/cupsd.conf home/archivista/mail-config.sh):
14:23 < CIA-9> * fixed newest archivista cupsd.conf overlay patch encoding
14:23 < CIA-9> * added configuration of the mail From address to archivista
14:24 < CIA-9> rene * r13868 /trunk/package/develop/boost/boost.conf:
14:24 < CIA-9> * fixed boost to not append massive versioning to the installed
14:24 < CIA-9> files and directories
14:54 < CIA-9> rene * r13869 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/exim/configure:
14:54 < CIA-9> * further improved the zero-config archivista mail server setup to try
14:54 < CIA-9> local delivery first, so it does work even if no nameserver is available
14:55 < rxr> 4171 builds total, 3713 completed fine, 235 with errors.
14:55 < rxr> mostly gcc-4.x, app-defaults not found and other noise such as e17 errors left ,-)
15:05 < mtr_> hi
15:05 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
15:05 < rxr> hi mtr
15:05 < mtr> rxr: which e17 errors do you mean ? can you please update your reference build errors on ec-outpost.dyndns.org?
15:05 < mtr> hi rxr
15:06 < karasz> hello
15:07 < karasz> rxr can i have your attention for a minute?
15:07 < rxr> karasz: I think so
15:07 < karasz> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/power/downloads.html
15:07 < madtux> wow...
15:08 < karasz> ^^ rock linux on power ???
15:08 < karasz> not openpower though ;)
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15:12 < demian> hi
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15:13 < rxr> mail sent to IBM ,-)
15:14 < rxr> mtr: http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2-errs/
15:14 < karasz> mail to IBM?
15:15 < karasz> why?
15:15 < rxr> karasz: we should be in the list of open power distributions ,-)
15:15 < rxr> karasz: do you see us in the list ?
15:15 < karasz> we will
15:15 < karasz> i mean we will be in the list
15:15 < karasz> i am workin on it
15:15 < rxr> in that case: two mails are better than one ,-)
15:15 < madtux> buenos dias demian
15:16 < karasz> before that i must show them an T2 powered OpenPower box though
15:16 < karasz> i am not using mails, but my contact at IBM
15:16 < madtux> demian, i went to the "fiestas tipicas" at moncho yesterday
15:17 < karasz> rxr note that that lidt includes Power 32 bits too
15:17 < karasz> since only redhat and suse have ports for Power64
15:17 < rxr> karasz: rock linux _never_ runs on 64bit powerpc right now ...
15:17 < demian> madtux: gd morning too.
15:17 < demian> brb
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15:17 < karasz> beside us i mean ;)
15:17 < rxr> not to mention their ppc32 support is majorly rotting away since I and valentin left there ...
15:18 < rxr> I think they will just add T2 on mail notification ,-)
15:18 < karasz> maybe
15:18 < rxr> advertising t2 to your contacts is still very useful of course ,-)
15:18 < karasz> i du not know how interested they are in this...
15:19 < karasz> since both redhat and suse means both money and strategic partnerships ;(
15:19 < rxr> yep
15:19 < karasz> despite the fact that they run like crap
15:19 < rxr> but sooner or later every commercial company shows it's uglyness ...
15:20 < rxr> redhat is not exactly what you want to have as partners and suse @ Novell also shows that they are doing strange hops every now and then such as deprecatign KDE in favour of Gnome junk ...
15:20 < karasz> but i guess that an OpenPower Certified sticker would not hurt T2
15:20 < karasz> would it?
15:20 < rxr> with such random decision I doubt they will have too much succes ...
15:20 < rxr> karasz: nope ,-)
15:20 < karasz> SuSE will not ever drop KDE
15:20 < karasz> it is a hype
15:21 < karasz> but i couldn't care less about that since SuSE is slow as a chameleon
15:22 < karasz> i guess theur mascot is very apropriate ;)
15:22 < rxr> hm - then we should not luse a caterpiller, since they are slow as well .-(
15:22 < karasz> a lot faster than a chameleon
15:22 < karasz> didn't you saw how they move?
15:23 < rxr> maybe a flink butterfly we should use then ,-)
15:23 < rxr> cameleons or caterpillers ?
15:23 < karasz> a step forward is taken after they tried it at least 6 times... :D
15:23 < karasz> chameleons
15:23 < rxr> hohoho ,-)
15:23 < rxr> nice
15:23 * rxr never watched those so far
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15:24 < karasz> they almpst do a touch down, but no, go back, try another one, almost there but just to be sure let's do it again..... and so on
15:24 < karasz> quite funny if you ask me
15:25 < karasz> and that is only a part of it
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15:25 < karasz> why a camelon? do they change collors so often? or it is not about changing colors but something else?
15:26 < karasz> anyway enough ranting about Suse, last word brrrrrr!
15:27 < CIA-9> rene * r13870 /trunk/package/develop/boost/boost.conf:
15:27 < CIA-9> * fixed boost to always install it's files, fixed a typo in a
15:27 < CIA-9> variable name and removed some more unneeded chars
15:27 < madtux> karasz, just for the record... suggestions are very welcome at miguel_at_suse.com
15:28 < karasz> ok
15:28 < karasz> noted that
15:28 < rxr> madtux: which is? Miguel De Icaza or so ?
15:28 < madtux> hehe... just kidding.
15:28 < madtux> :)
15:28 < madtux> rxr, i believe its an alias for Icaza's email yeah
15:29 < madtux> ah it aint glamurous enough for me..
15:29 < madtux> maybe someday i will be miguel_at_exactcode_dot_de
15:29 < madtux> now thats glamurous :)
15:30 < rxr> hehehe
15:30 < madtux> ok time to svn up ... i feel like messing everything up today
15:30 < rxr> madtux: what do you mess up ?
15:32 < madtux> nothing really.. i wanted to freak you guys up a bit.
15:32 < karasz> sugestion: instead of an catepillar mutant why don't we do a catepillar-cheetah-mutant?
15:32 < madtux> rxr, i'm just get up to date on what has been done and see if i can do a bit of work
15:32 < karasz> i realy want to see that solved by some artist .... hehe
15:32 < madtux> of course i am crossing my fingers hoping i still have svn +w access
15:35 < rxr> sure
15:37 < madtux> Nice
15:39 < CIA-9> rene * r13871 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (backup.sh net-backup.sh):
15:39 < CIA-9> * implemented utilization of the new From configuration in the archivista
15:39 < CIA-9> target for scsi and net backup notifications
16:16 < demian> re
16:17 < madtux> bienvenido
16:21 < rxr> re
16:23 < madtux> Willkommen
16:25 < karasz> got to do a restart :'(
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17:29 < karasz> really silent in here, isn't it....
17:30 < madtux> sshhh... do not disturb de waters.
17:31 < madtux> *G*
17:34 * demian putting attention to a opensuse team server conference..
17:34 * karasz can be very silent if it is required ;)
17:34 < madtux> karasz, no u are ok ... make as much noise as u wish :)
17:34 < madtux> demian, heretic.
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19:44 < misl> hi folks
19:44 < karasz> hi
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21:21 < jsaw> re
21:23 < misl> Hi jsaw :)
21:23 < jsaw> hi misl
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21:47 < jsaw> gotta go on learning, cu
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22:04 < rxr> re
22:06 < ojh> rxr: Is the inotify feature enabled in the Trunk kernel?
22:14 < rxr> oehm - I think so
22:14 < rxr> though I do not know for sure off-hand
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22:46 < Xenos> 'night all
22:46 * Xenos is away: dropped to bed..
22:47 < valentin> re
22:47 < valentin> hi rxr, you got reply-mail
22:50 < valentin> at least i hope this mailing worked
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