T2 IRC Log: 2005-11-16
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--- Log opened Wed Nov 16 00:00:00 2005
00:09 < karasz> good night sepp
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00:26 < karasz> good night all
00:27 < karasz> cu another time :)
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00:52 < MisterN> n8
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05:15 < Xenos> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext2'
05:15 < Xenos> heh..
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07:18 < misl> morning all, just a quick visit :)
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10:14 < CIA-1> rene * r13380 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (206 -> 207)
10:15 < CIA-1> rene * r13381 /trunk/package/network/irssi/irssi.desc: * updated irssi (0.8.10-rc5 -> 0.8.10-rc7)
10:17 < CIA-1> rene * r13382 /trunk/package/network/vblade/vblade.desc: * updated vblade (6 -> 8)
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10:37 * Xenos is back (gone 11:42:58)
11:27 < karasz> moin all
11:28 < Xenos> hello
11:36 < karasz> what's up Xenos ?
11:36 < karasz> how is your build doing?
11:36 < Xenos> emm
11:37 < Xenos> == 13:35:05 =[5]=> Building x86/grub [0.97 2.1-stable].
11:37 < Xenos> it's a generic building..
11:37 < Xenos> bootdisk built
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11:57 < Xenos> yeaaahhaaa
11:57 < Xenos> done!
11:57 < Xenos> :>
11:57 < Xenos> creating an iso
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12:13 < Xenos> yeaaaahhda
12:13 < Xenos> iso built
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12:20 < Xenos> :(
12:20 < Xenos> can't mount xfs.. :(
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12:40 < karasz> question: what is the filesize limitation in ext3?
12:40 < karasz> 2GB?
12:50 < Xenos> em
12:50 < Xenos> i forgot about "modprobe xfs" :>
12:50 < Xenos> all is ok
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14:34 < Xenos> :(
14:35 < Xenos> kernel panic
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15:26 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
15:26 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
15:26 [Users #t2]
15:26 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ SerWou ] [ Xenos]
15:26 [ CIA-1 ] [ karasz] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]]
15:26 [ geekitus] [ mnemoc] [ sepp_] [ valentin ]
15:26 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
15:26 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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15:28 < Xenos> em
15:28 < Xenos> apply custom kernel build.. ?
15:28 < mnemoc> wb rxr
15:29 < Xenos> done
15:29 < mnemoc> Xenos: let me confirm...
15:29 < mnemoc> ok :)
15:29 < Xenos> but
15:29 < mnemoc> now you should have config/minimal/linux.cfg
15:29 < Xenos> yeah
15:29 < Xenos> echo CONFIG_XFS_FS=y
15:29 < Xenos> err
15:30 < Xenos> CONFIG_XFS_FS=y
15:30 < Xenos> string added
15:30 < mnemoc> now rebuilt 5-linux26
15:30 < mnemoc> rebuild*
15:30 < mnemoc> which will merge default config with your custom linux.cfg
15:31 < Xenos> hmm
15:31 < Xenos> :mnemoc > now rebuilt 5-linux26
15:31 < Xenos> 26?
15:31 < Xenos> what's about of 24?
15:31 < Xenos> then 24?
15:32 < mnemoc> yes
15:33 < Xenos> scripts/Build-Target -cfg minimal -job 5-linux26
15:33 < Xenos> building..
15:34 < Xenos> heh
15:34 < Xenos> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2 added to my browser's bookmarks
15:34 < Xenos> :>
15:35 < mnemoc> svn log is better, because it's relative to an specific point of the tree, not to the root
15:35 < Xenos> yeah.
15:35 < mnemoc> e.g. 2.1-branch, or some package
15:35 < mnemoc> but you removed you .svn dirs
15:35 < sepp_> moin all :)
15:35 < mnemoc> moin sepp_
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15:35 < sepp> moin mnemoc
15:35 < Xenos> hi, sepp
15:35 < Xenos> :>
15:36 < sepp> hi Xenos
15:36 < Xenos> mnemoc?
15:36 < Xenos> :mnemoc > but you removed you .svn dirs
15:36 < Xenos> i used svn export
15:36 < Xenos> as u said
15:36 < Xenos> :>
15:37 < mnemoc> rxr: how is it going?
15:38 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13383 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/ (erlang-otp.conf erlang-otp.desc):
15:38 < CIA-1> * updated erlang-otp (R10B-7 -> R10B-8)
15:38 < CIA-1> * enabled thread support
15:38 < CIA-1> * added erlang man pages
15:39 < Xenos> hm
15:39 < Xenos> i think
15:39 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13384 /trunk/package/graphic/normalmap/ (. makefile.patch normalmap.cache normalmap.desc): * added normalmap (1.2) - GIMP normalmap plugin
15:39 < Xenos> building your own iso is very interesting process..
15:39 < Xenos> ;)
15:39 < Xenos> interesting as t2 :>
15:41 < mnemoc> "t2 is not yet another distribution" :)
15:41 < Xenos> yeah ;)
15:44 < Xenos> i hope
15:44 < Xenos> it will the last distro that i used
15:44 < Xenos> *will be
15:44 < Xenos> )
15:45 < mnemoc> the last distro you will use will be one built and designed by your own and for your own.
15:46 < Xenos> yep
15:46 < Xenos> u can see, that now i'm on lunar
15:46 < Xenos> did u hear about it?
15:46 < Xenos> lunar is similiar to sourcemage
15:47 < Xenos> these are some source-based distros
15:48 < Xenos> but there are so many unnecessary things..
15:48 < Xenos> for me, for example
15:49 < Xenos> because i want a very compact system, mainly useable for the server
15:49 < Xenos> i think, t2 is the best choice for me.. ;)
15:49 < mnemoc> if you like runit, later you could give a try to mnemosyne.
15:51 < Xenos> emm
15:51 < Xenos> runit?
15:51 < Xenos> argh, run it
15:51 < Xenos> i backed up all of my data
15:52 < mnemoc> runit, a djb-like init
15:52 < Xenos> em..
15:52 < mnemoc> djb-style*
15:52 < Xenos> for what?
15:52 < Xenos> djb?
15:53 < Xenos> what's djb?
15:53 < mnemoc> don't worry, most people think sysvinit is the only init concept :)
15:53 < Xenos> argh :)
15:53 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djb
15:53 < Xenos> can u tell me about it?
15:53 < Xenos> m
15:53 < Xenos> thanks
15:55 < Xenos> heh, interesting
15:55 < mnemoc> http://smarden.org/runit/
15:56 < Xenos> next, i want to format my 80-gb hdd and install t2 on clean hdd like a clean OS :>
15:56 < Xenos> runit - a UNIX init scheme with service supervision
15:56 < Xenos> hm
15:57 < Xenos> hah! nice concept
16:02 < Xenos> hm
16:02 < Xenos> what client do u use?
16:03 < Xenos> =mnemoc= VERSION irssi v0.8.10-rc5 - running on Linux i686
16:03 < Xenos> nice :)
16:03 < Xenos> i'm on xchat..
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16:09 < madtux> hello
16:09 < Xenos> hi, madtux
16:09 < sepp> hi madtux
16:10 < madtux> :)
16:12 < mnemoc> wb mightytux
16:12 < Xenos> hmm
16:12 < Xenos> == 17:32:17 =[5]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.11.12 2.1-stable].
16:12 * Xenos Date/Time is now [ Wed Nov 16 18:12:13 ]
16:13 < madtux> hello my master
16:13 < Xenos> more time..
16:16 < Xenos> == 11/16/05 18:15:33 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26.
16:16 < Xenos> gi :D
16:16 < Xenos> == 18:16:10 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.31 2.1-stable].
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16:17 < Xenos> going on..
16:17 < Xenos> Chipster1, hi
16:17 < Chipster1> hi
16:17 < Xenos> mnemoc, nice to see ":-)" & ":-(" while booting the system :)
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16:35 < karasz> re
16:39 < madtux> ra
16:44 < Xenos> hmm
16:44 < Xenos> some strange warnings, mnemoc
16:44 < Xenos> Creating binary package file for linux26.
16:44 < Xenos> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26-2.6.11.12.tar.bz2
16:44 < Xenos> tar: lib/modules/2.6.11.12-dist/kernel/fs/xfs: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
16:44 < Xenos> tar: lib/modules/2.6.11.12-dist/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.ko: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
16:44 < Xenos> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
16:44 < Xenos> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26-2.6.11.12.gem
16:44 < Xenos> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
16:45 < madtux> mm...
16:45 < madtux> what stage is this?
16:45 < Xenos> after == 11/16/05 18:15:33 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26.
16:48 < Xenos> 5th stage, as u see..
16:50 < Xenos> installing.. :/
16:51 < Xenos> but i think, nothing will be changed
16:54 < mnemoc> Xenos: because it's not longer a module
16:54 < Xenos> argh!
16:54 < Xenos> yeah :)
16:54 < Xenos> u r right
16:55 < mnemoc> you changed your linux.cfg to have built-in XFS
16:55 < Xenos> yep
16:56 < Xenos> yeaahahahaahaaa
16:57 < Xenos> so many ":-)"
16:57 < Xenos> :)
16:57 < mnemoc> but you are rebuidling, so old linux26's flist still contain xfs.ko
16:57 < mnemoc> to rebuild a fresh linux26, remove it first
16:58 < mnemoc> Create-ErrList -cfg minimal -remove linux26
16:58 < mnemoc> Build-Target -cfg minimal
16:58 < mnemoc> flist=file list, which is additive
16:59 * Xenos thanks mnemoc ;)
17:01 < Xenos> 2 errors while removing package linux26.
17:01 < _Ragnar_> can also remove it from the flist manually
17:02 < Xenos> done
17:02 < Xenos> then i must rebuild linux 24 & 26 on 5 stage?
17:04 < Xenos> builiding..
17:05 < mnemoc> if you remove, do Build-Target
17:05 < Xenos> yep..
17:05 < mnemoc> without specific job
17:05 < Xenos> hm
17:06 < mnemoc> -job is to force an specific rebuild
17:06 < mnemoc> linux26 is built on more than one stage
17:06 < Xenos> yeah, building..
17:06 < Xenos> thanks a lot :)
17:07 < Xenos> i already bought one mini CD-R :>
17:07 < Xenos> better to say, i bought it yesterday..
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17:20 < karasz> any news about rxr?
17:20 < karasz> and linux expo?
17:21 < karasz> guess not
17:21 < karasz> got to go
17:21 < karasz> cu tomorrow
17:23 < mnemoc> *HEADACHE*
17:23 < Xenos> heh
17:24 < Xenos> sleepless night? :/
17:25 < mnemoc> moneyless pocket :)
17:25 < Xenos> argh :)
17:26 < Xenos> hm
17:26 < Xenos> 2.2 will have graphical installer
17:26 < Xenos> yep?
17:26 < mnemoc> maybe
17:26 < Xenos> hm, but what's this?
17:26 < Xenos> like redhat?
17:27 < Xenos> like redhat install process?
17:27 < Xenos> for example redhat 9.0
17:27 < mnemoc> i haven't installed redhat since 1998
17:27 < Xenos> :))
17:27 < Xenos> yeah..
17:27 < mnemoc> i prefer text mode installers anyway
17:27 < Xenos> yeah
17:27 < mnemoc> but bootdisk is too hardcoded
17:27 < Xenos> i'm too
17:28 < Xenos> there are some questions for u with "vs"
17:29 < Xenos> just interesting: "2.4 kernel vs 2.6", "Xorg vs XFree86", "lilo vs grub", "xfs vs ext3", what are your choices?
17:30 < mnemoc> 2.6, xorg, lilo, reiserfs
17:31 < Xenos> :)
17:31 < Xenos> similiar.. but i dunno about the last
17:31 < mnemoc> xfs is good for big files, but i have more small files than big files.
17:31 < Xenos> reiserfs is the fastest for small files
17:31 < Xenos> yep
17:31 < Xenos> :)))))
17:32 < sepp> jfs is small on every file
17:32 < Xenos> :)
17:32 < sepp> slow i mean
17:32 < mnemoc> ack
17:33 < Xenos> hm
17:33 < Xenos> mnemoc, did you work with irc?
17:33 < Xenos> i'm about irc-serv
17:33 < mnemoc> no
17:34 < mnemoc> i prefer big networks
17:34 < Xenos> :)
17:34 < Xenos> you prefer be a client
17:34 < mnemoc> for inhouse comunication, jabber.
17:34 < Xenos> ah, i see
17:34 < mnemoc> i don't find any benefit of running my own irc service
17:35 < Xenos> :)
17:36 < Xenos> what;s about audi-video?
17:36 < Xenos> *audio
17:39 < mnemoc> i don't even have an audio card....
17:39 < sepp> :D
17:39 < mnemoc> but ser for SIP, and asterisk for the rest would be my choice
17:39 < Xenos> :)
17:47 < Xenos> heh
17:47 < Xenos> want to increase t2-community..
17:47 < mnemoc> we too
17:48 < mnemoc> too much work to do :p
17:48 < Xenos> :D
17:48 < Xenos> more adv..
17:49 < Xenos> but..
17:50 < Xenos> popular distros are so simple..
17:50 < Xenos> suse, fedora, mandriva..
17:50 < Xenos> :/
17:50 < mnemoc> simple to what?
17:50 < Xenos> installation, for exampple
17:51 < Xenos> just several clicks of mice..
17:51 < mnemoc> btw, you mentioned distributions with big companies behind
17:51 < Xenos> yeah..
17:51 < Xenos> :/
17:52 < mnemoc> installation may be simple, but they are over patched, so updates and compatibility are a big mess
17:52 < Xenos> agree
17:52 < Xenos> == 11/16/05 19:50:34 =[1]=> Finished building package linux26.
17:52 < mnemoc> we keep them _pristine_, no new bug are added by T2 to any package
17:52 < Xenos> :)
17:53 < mnemoc> so any update or fix comming from upstream can be included in a minute
17:56 < Xenos> and
17:56 < Xenos> there are too many distro at all
17:56 < Xenos> for example
17:57 < mnemoc> most are simply customizations of big distributions
17:57 < Xenos> i found t2 by searching it on distrowatch.com & using filter "source-based"
17:57 < Xenos> only 10 distros of this class..
17:57 < Xenos> :/
17:58 < mnemoc> and we wont the 'worse logo' conquest
17:58 < mnemoc> worst*
17:58 < Xenos> :)
18:00 < Xenos> heh
18:00 < Xenos> i spent about 20 mins to make my avatar in gimp
18:01 < mnemoc> any logo proposal for t2 is welcome
18:01 < Xenos> mm
18:01 < Xenos> any restrictions?
18:02 < mnemoc> no
18:02 < mnemoc> svg :)
18:03 < sepp> and it should have the of a thumbnail :P
18:03 < Xenos> :)
18:03 < Xenos> nice
18:03 < Xenos> i can try
18:04 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: any news?
18:04 < sparc-kly> i send fax today :)
18:05 < Xenos> hmm
18:05 < Xenos> this is not a bug, i think
18:05 < mnemoc> Xenos: ?
18:05 < Xenos> but some message..
18:05 < Xenos> ./scripts/Check-PkgFormat: line 39: 19846 Segmentation fault egrep -q '^[^#]*\bflistdel' $pdir/$package.conf
18:05 < mnemoc> outch
18:06 < Xenos> not on every pack-build
18:06 < sparc-kly> en caso de que mi tarjeta de credito no la quieran cojer vi que se puede pagar en money order so eso are . :)
18:06 < sparc-kly> uups
18:06 < Xenos> ergh
18:06 < sparc-kly> english sucks
18:06 < sparc-kly> LOL
18:06 < Xenos> :F
18:06 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: :-)
18:07 < Xenos> this msg is after build-string
18:07 < Xenos> for ex.
18:07 < Xenos> == 19:50:41 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.31 2.1-stable].
18:07 < Xenos> ./scripts/Check-PkgFormat: line 39: 19846 Segmentation fault egrep -q '^[^#]*\bflistdel' $pdir/$package.conf
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18:09 < Xenos> nick-completion suffix changed from "," to ":"..
18:10 < mnemoc> Xenos: your host seems to be borked
18:10 < Xenos> hmm
18:10 < Xenos> -> Reading build/.../tools.cross/lib/pkg_linux24_post.conf
18:10 < Xenos> -> Preparing build in src.linux24.minimal.20051116.195035.19596.VEX
18:10 < Xenos> my host is "VEX"
18:11 < mnemoc> egrep -q '^[^#]*\bflistdel' package/base/linux24/linux24.conf <---- segfaults too?
18:11 < Xenos> :)
18:11 < Xenos> hm..
18:11 < Xenos> no, as i see
18:11 < CIA-1> amery * r13385 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.8.6 -> 2.8.7)
18:12 < Xenos> hm
18:12 < Xenos> gtk+
18:12 < Xenos> gtk+ 2.6 vs gtk+ 2.8 ? :)
18:12 * Xenos prefer 2.6..
18:12 < mnemoc> 2.1 has 2.6, 2.2 has 2.8
18:13 < Xenos> 2.2 is the really newest distro :D
18:13 < Xenos> xorg 7, gtk+ 2.8..
18:14 < mnemoc> kde 2.5
18:14 < mnemoc> 3.5
18:14 < Xenos> :)))))))
18:14 < Xenos> heh, yep
18:14 < Xenos> hm, but for example
18:14 < Xenos> i'll install 2.1
18:15 < Xenos> then what i need to do to install, for example, xorg?
18:16 < mnemoc> build desktop target until you know t2 enough to make your own target
18:16 < Xenos> hm
18:16 < Xenos> xorg is any example
18:17 < Xenos> i'm about installing software
18:17 < mnemoc> pkgsel or emerge
18:17 < Xenos> are there any special scripts for autodownloading packages, compiling & installing them?
18:17 < mnemoc> or, in future 'sam'
18:17 < mnemoc> emerge
18:17 < Xenos> mm
18:20 < _Ragnar_> hi
18:20 < Xenos> hello, _Ragnar_
18:26 * mnemoc love firefox's keywords
18:26 < _Ragnar_> hi Xenos :)
18:26 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
18:26 < _Ragnar_> wish firefox wasn't so sloooow
18:27 < mnemoc> doesn't run slow on this box :)
18:30 < _Ragnar_> which is
18:30 < _Ragnar_> ?
18:32 < Xenos> ???
18:32 < Xenos> oops
18:32 < Xenos> :F
18:33 < mnemoc> p4/2.8HT/768M/T2-azazel-optimized-for-my-machine/xfce4
18:33 < mnemoc> unicode boy :(
18:34 < Xenos> mnemoc: just ctrl+shift
18:34 < Xenos> )
18:34 < Xenos> switching between RU/EN char maps..
18:35 < Xenos> mnemoc: did u see new sf.net design?
18:37 < mnemoc> it doesn't even load
18:38 < Xenos> argh, yep..
18:38 < Xenos> i saw 2 hours ago..
18:41 < mnemoc> ok, i saw it.
18:41 < mnemoc> what about it?
18:41 < Xenos> new one
18:41 < Xenos> isn't it?
18:42 < CIA-1> amery * r13386 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer-codecs/ (. mplayer-codecs.conf mplayer-codecs.desc): * added mplayer-codecs (20050412) - MPlayer Essential Codecs Pack
18:43 < mnemoc> seems to be different than the last time i had to go there
18:43 < Xenos> :)
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19:10 < Xenos> hi, MisterN
19:11 < MisterN> hi
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19:34 < mnemoc> i hate language-fixed programs
19:35 < Xenos> mnemoc: ?
19:36 < Xenos> yehaa
19:36 < Xenos> Finishing build.
19:36 < Xenos> -> Creating package database ...
19:36 < Xenos> -> Creating isofs.txt file ..
19:36 < mnemoc> which can be built for one ui locale only
19:36 < Xenos> m
19:36 < Xenos> yep
19:36 < mnemoc> even if they support multiple languages
19:37 < mnemoc> you can build firefox in russian, or in english or in spanish. but not of the three of them
19:37 < Xenos> scripts/Create-ISO t2-minimal-vx boot minimal <- my last command :>
19:37 < Xenos> hmmm, firefox..
19:37 < Xenos> 1.5 final released?
19:39 < mnemoc> rc2
19:43 < Xenos> heh
19:43 < Xenos> installing t2 on vmware.. :>
19:44 * Xenos thanks mnemoc for his hard work ;)
19:45 < mnemoc> which work?
19:45 < Xenos> help for me to install t2, for example :>
19:45 < Xenos> & development of t2 ;)
19:46 < mnemoc> :D
19:46 < mnemoc> you are welcome
19:46 < Xenos> ;)
19:56 * Xenos is going to burn mini cd-r
19:56 < Xenos> vmware-tests are ok ;>
19:58 < Xenos> heh
19:58 < Xenos> 145 mbytes of the great distro..
19:58 < Xenos> cool
19:58 < Xenos> :>
20:01 < SerWou> good evening
20:03 < SerWou> i would like to setup software raid, should i have to recompile to kernel to active RAID1 ? I know i have to emerge railtools in a second time
20:04 < valentin> hi
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20:04 < kmilo> Hi
20:09 < Xenos> hello, kmilo
20:09 < Xenos> heh
20:09 < Xenos> cd burned :>>>
20:12 < mnemoc> SerWou: aren't the modules you need enabled by default?
20:15 < SerWou> basically, i need that : http://nyal.developpez.com/tutoriel/linux/raid/images/config_raid.png
20:16 < SerWou> i wonder if modules are enable by default
20:16 < mnemoc> do makemenu by hand, and see what CONFIG_ they represent, or do your guesses greping /boot/kconfig_*
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20:18 < mnemoc> grep RAID /boot/kconfig_2.6.10-dist
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID0=y
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID10=m
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID5=y
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID6=m
20:19 < SerWou> CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y
20:19 < SerWou> me TOO ;)
20:19 < SerWou> gorgeous
20:19 < _Ragnar_> ??
20:19 < SerWou> so it should be good
20:20 < SerWou> emerge raidtools and it will run ?
20:20 < mnemoc> i hope so
20:21 < SerWou> i have to study /etc/raidtab who looks chinese for me ;)
20:25 < SerWou> thanks mnemoc
20:25 < mnemoc> np :)
20:30 < CIA-1> amery * r13387 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * introduced pkgprefix ver $pkg, to see what version is currently installed.
20:31 < CIA-1> amery * r13388 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/mplayerplug-in/ (mplayerplug-in.conf mplayerplug-in.desc): * merged 9797,10722,13151,13201 from trunk: updated mplayerplug-in (2.75 -> 3.15)
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21:16 < jsaw> re
21:16 < Xenos> hello
21:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: how was lwe?
21:16 < jsaw> <- back from lwe
21:17 < jsaw> mnemoc: actually a bit small, but it was far more interesting to meet a few devs irl :)
21:17 < mnemoc> devs irl?
21:18 < jsaw> developers in-real-life
21:18 < mnemoc> :D
21:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: what do you see when you type "failure" into www.google.com and press the second button (In german, it's "Auf gut GlÃück")
21:20 < jsaw> (I'm feeling lucky)
21:21 < mnemoc> Biography of President George W. Bush!!!!!
21:21 < jsaw> hehe
21:21 < _Ragnar_> of course :) google knows :)
21:21 < jsaw> me too
21:22 < jsaw> nicemessage
21:22 < Xenos> muahhahaha
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21:22 < Xenos> :>>
21:28 -!- Xenos is now known as VX
21:28 < jsaw> ?
21:29 -!- VX is now known as Xenos
21:30 < jsaw> hehe, second entry for normal search for "failure" on google is micheal moore
21:31 < mnemoc> i guess there is a campain to produce that
21:32 < jsaw> actually quite some american companies were hiding some political message on their web pages, so I wouldn't wonder if this is actually a statement
21:50 < jsaw> aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
21:50 < CIA-1> jsaw * r13389 /trunk/package/contrib/directfb/ (dfb_types.patch directfb.desc): * update directfb (0.9.23 -> 0.9.24)
21:51 < jsaw> svn stuck due to depleted /dev/random, .oO(and I thought the admins blocked something...stupid me)
21:52 < CIA-1> jsaw * r13390 /trunk/package/x11/cairo/hidden-INT-fix.patch:
21:52 < CIA-1> * fix build with fresh binutils
21:52 < CIA-1> (correctness of the patch is not yet confirmed by cairo developers,
21:52 < CIA-1> please test functionality)
21:59 * Xenos is going to install T2
21:59 < jsaw> :)
22:00 < Xenos> i'll join us, when it will be installed & configured ;)
22:00 < Xenos> *join you ;)
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22:12 < jsaw> can somebody verify cups-pdf md5 sum?
22:18 < CIA-1> rene * r13391 /trunk/package/base/flex/flex.conf: * slightly cleanup for flex.conf just for fun
22:23 < jsaw> hi rxr
22:23 < jsaw> rxr: The DB delay yesterday was a assault on railways (according to FAZ)
22:27 < jsaw> <- tired, cu
22:28 < sepp> so now the incompetent german railway blames al qaida?
22:29 < MisterN> you must not not trust faz
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00:09 < karasz> good night sepp
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00:26 < karasz> good night all
00:27 < karasz> cu another time :)
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00:52 < MisterN> n8
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05:15 < Xenos> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext2'
05:15 < Xenos> heh..
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07:18 < misl> morning all, just a quick visit :)
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10:14 < CIA-1> rene * r13380 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (206 -> 207)
10:15 < CIA-1> rene * r13381 /trunk/package/network/irssi/irssi.desc: * updated irssi (0.8.10-rc5 -> 0.8.10-rc7)
10:17 < CIA-1> rene * r13382 /trunk/package/network/vblade/vblade.desc: * updated vblade (6 -> 8)
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11:27 < karasz> moin all
11:28 < Xenos> hello
11:36 < karasz> what's up Xenos ?
11:36 < karasz> how is your build doing?
11:36 < Xenos> emm
11:37 < Xenos> == 13:35:05 =[5]=> Building x86/grub [0.97 2.1-stable].
11:37 < Xenos> it's a generic building..
11:37 < Xenos> bootdisk built
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11:57 < Xenos> yeaaahhaaa
11:57 < Xenos> done!
11:57 < Xenos> :>
11:57 < Xenos> creating an iso
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12:13 < Xenos> yeaaaahhda
12:13 < Xenos> iso built
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12:20 < Xenos> :(
12:20 < Xenos> can't mount xfs.. :(
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12:40 < karasz> question: what is the filesize limitation in ext3?
12:40 < karasz> 2GB?
12:50 < Xenos> em
12:50 < Xenos> i forgot about "modprobe xfs" :>
12:50 < Xenos> all is ok
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14:34 < Xenos> :(
14:35 < Xenos> kernel panic
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15:26 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
15:26 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
15:26 [Users #t2]
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15:28 < Xenos> em
15:28 < Xenos> apply custom kernel build.. ?
15:28 < mnemoc> wb rxr
15:29 < Xenos> done
15:29 < mnemoc> Xenos: let me confirm...
15:29 < mnemoc> ok :)
15:29 < Xenos> but
15:29 < mnemoc> now you should have config/minimal/linux.cfg
15:29 < Xenos> yeah
15:29 < Xenos> echo CONFIG_XFS_FS=y
15:29 < Xenos> err
15:30 < Xenos> CONFIG_XFS_FS=y
15:30 < Xenos> string added
15:30 < mnemoc> now rebuilt 5-linux26
15:30 < mnemoc> rebuild*
15:30 < mnemoc> which will merge default config with your custom linux.cfg
15:31 < Xenos> hmm
15:31 < Xenos> :mnemoc > now rebuilt 5-linux26
15:31 < Xenos> 26?
15:31 < Xenos> what's about of 24?
15:31 < Xenos> then 24?
15:32 < mnemoc> yes
15:33 < Xenos> scripts/Build-Target -cfg minimal -job 5-linux26
15:33 < Xenos> building..
15:34 < Xenos> heh
15:34 < Xenos> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2 added to my browser's bookmarks
15:34 < Xenos> :>
15:35 < mnemoc> svn log is better, because it's relative to an specific point of the tree, not to the root
15:35 < Xenos> yeah.
15:35 < mnemoc> e.g. 2.1-branch, or some package
15:35 < mnemoc> but you removed you .svn dirs
15:35 < sepp_> moin all :)
15:35 < mnemoc> moin sepp_
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15:35 < sepp> moin mnemoc
15:35 < Xenos> hi, sepp
15:35 < Xenos> :>
15:36 < sepp> hi Xenos
15:36 < Xenos> mnemoc?
15:36 < Xenos> :mnemoc > but you removed you .svn dirs
15:36 < Xenos> i used svn export
15:36 < Xenos> as u said
15:36 < Xenos> :>
15:37 < mnemoc> rxr: how is it going?
15:38 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13383 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/ (erlang-otp.conf erlang-otp.desc):
15:38 < CIA-1> * updated erlang-otp (R10B-7 -> R10B-8)
15:38 < CIA-1> * enabled thread support
15:38 < CIA-1> * added erlang man pages
15:39 < Xenos> hm
15:39 < Xenos> i think
15:39 < CIA-1> sebastian * r13384 /trunk/package/graphic/normalmap/ (. makefile.patch normalmap.cache normalmap.desc): * added normalmap (1.2) - GIMP normalmap plugin
15:39 < Xenos> building your own iso is very interesting process..
15:39 < Xenos> ;)
15:39 < Xenos> interesting as t2 :>
15:41 < mnemoc> "t2 is not yet another distribution" :)
15:41 < Xenos> yeah ;)
15:44 < Xenos> i hope
15:44 < Xenos> it will the last distro that i used
15:44 < Xenos> *will be
15:44 < Xenos> )
15:45 < mnemoc> the last distro you will use will be one built and designed by your own and for your own.
15:46 < Xenos> yep
15:46 < Xenos> u can see, that now i'm on lunar
15:46 < Xenos> did u hear about it?
15:46 < Xenos> lunar is similiar to sourcemage
15:47 < Xenos> these are some source-based distros
15:48 < Xenos> but there are so many unnecessary things..
15:48 < Xenos> for me, for example
15:49 < Xenos> because i want a very compact system, mainly useable for the server
15:49 < Xenos> i think, t2 is the best choice for me.. ;)
15:49 < mnemoc> if you like runit, later you could give a try to mnemosyne.
15:51 < Xenos> emm
15:51 < Xenos> runit?
15:51 < Xenos> argh, run it
15:51 < Xenos> i backed up all of my data
15:52 < mnemoc> runit, a djb-like init
15:52 < Xenos> em..
15:52 < mnemoc> djb-style*
15:52 < Xenos> for what?
15:52 < Xenos> djb?
15:53 < Xenos> what's djb?
15:53 < mnemoc> don't worry, most people think sysvinit is the only init concept :)
15:53 < Xenos> argh :)
15:53 < mnemoc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djb
15:53 < Xenos> can u tell me about it?
15:53 < Xenos> m
15:53 < Xenos> thanks
15:55 < Xenos> heh, interesting
15:55 < mnemoc> http://smarden.org/runit/
15:56 < Xenos> next, i want to format my 80-gb hdd and install t2 on clean hdd like a clean OS :>
15:56 < Xenos> runit - a UNIX init scheme with service supervision
15:56 < Xenos> hm
15:57 < Xenos> hah! nice concept
16:02 < Xenos> hm
16:02 < Xenos> what client do u use?
16:03 < Xenos> =mnemoc= VERSION irssi v0.8.10-rc5 - running on Linux i686
16:03 < Xenos> nice :)
16:03 < Xenos> i'm on xchat..
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16:09 < madtux> hello
16:09 < Xenos> hi, madtux
16:09 < sepp> hi madtux
16:10 < madtux> :)
16:12 < mnemoc> wb mightytux
16:12 < Xenos> hmm
16:12 < Xenos> == 17:32:17 =[5]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.11.12 2.1-stable].
16:12 * Xenos Date/Time is now [ Wed Nov 16 18:12:13 ]
16:13 < madtux> hello my master
16:13 < Xenos> more time..
16:16 < Xenos> == 11/16/05 18:15:33 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26.
16:16 < Xenos> gi :D
16:16 < Xenos> == 18:16:10 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.31 2.1-stable].
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16:17 < Xenos> going on..
16:17 < Xenos> Chipster1, hi
16:17 < Chipster1> hi
16:17 < Xenos> mnemoc, nice to see ":-)" & ":-(" while booting the system :)
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16:35 < karasz> re
16:39 < madtux> ra
16:44 < Xenos> hmm
16:44 < Xenos> some strange warnings, mnemoc
16:44 < Xenos> Creating binary package file for linux26.
16:44 < Xenos> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26-2.6.11.12.tar.bz2
16:44 < Xenos> tar: lib/modules/2.6.11.12-dist/kernel/fs/xfs: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
16:44 < Xenos> tar: lib/modules/2.6.11.12-dist/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.ko: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
16:44 < Xenos> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
16:44 < Xenos> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26-2.6.11.12.gem
16:44 < Xenos> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
16:45 < madtux> mm...
16:45 < madtux> what stage is this?
16:45 < Xenos> after == 11/16/05 18:15:33 =[5]=> Finished building package linux26.
16:48 < Xenos> 5th stage, as u see..
16:50 < Xenos> installing.. :/
16:51 < Xenos> but i think, nothing will be changed
16:54 < mnemoc> Xenos: because it's not longer a module
16:54 < Xenos> argh!
16:54 < Xenos> yeah :)
16:54 < Xenos> u r right
16:55 < mnemoc> you changed your linux.cfg to have built-in XFS
16:55 < Xenos> yep
16:56 < Xenos> yeaahahahaahaaa
16:57 < Xenos> so many ":-)"
16:57 < Xenos> :)
16:57 < mnemoc> but you are rebuidling, so old linux26's flist still contain xfs.ko
16:57 < mnemoc> to rebuild a fresh linux26, remove it first
16:58 < mnemoc> Create-ErrList -cfg minimal -remove linux26
16:58 < mnemoc> Build-Target -cfg minimal
16:58 < mnemoc> flist=file list, which is additive
16:59 * Xenos thanks mnemoc ;)
17:01 < Xenos> 2 errors while removing package linux26.
17:01 < _Ragnar_> can also remove it from the flist manually
17:02 < Xenos> done
17:02 < Xenos> then i must rebuild linux 24 & 26 on 5 stage?
17:04 < Xenos> builiding..
17:05 < mnemoc> if you remove, do Build-Target
17:05 < Xenos> yep..
17:05 < mnemoc> without specific job
17:05 < Xenos> hm
17:06 < mnemoc> -job is to force an specific rebuild
17:06 < mnemoc> linux26 is built on more than one stage
17:06 < Xenos> yeah, building..
17:06 < Xenos> thanks a lot :)
17:07 < Xenos> i already bought one mini CD-R :>
17:07 < Xenos> better to say, i bought it yesterday..
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17:20 < karasz> any news about rxr?
17:20 < karasz> and linux expo?
17:21 < karasz> guess not
17:21 < karasz> got to go
17:21 < karasz> cu tomorrow
17:23 < mnemoc> *HEADACHE*
17:23 < Xenos> heh
17:24 < Xenos> sleepless night? :/
17:25 < mnemoc> moneyless pocket :)
17:25 < Xenos> argh :)
17:26 < Xenos> hm
17:26 < Xenos> 2.2 will have graphical installer
17:26 < Xenos> yep?
17:26 < mnemoc> maybe
17:26 < Xenos> hm, but what's this?
17:26 < Xenos> like redhat?
17:27 < Xenos> like redhat install process?
17:27 < Xenos> for example redhat 9.0
17:27 < mnemoc> i haven't installed redhat since 1998
17:27 < Xenos> :))
17:27 < Xenos> yeah..
17:27 < mnemoc> i prefer text mode installers anyway
17:27 < Xenos> yeah
17:27 < mnemoc> but bootdisk is too hardcoded
17:27 < Xenos> i'm too
17:28 < Xenos> there are some questions for u with "vs"
17:29 < Xenos> just interesting: "2.4 kernel vs 2.6", "Xorg vs XFree86", "lilo vs grub", "xfs vs ext3", what are your choices?
17:30 < mnemoc> 2.6, xorg, lilo, reiserfs
17:31 < Xenos> :)
17:31 < Xenos> similiar.. but i dunno about the last
17:31 < mnemoc> xfs is good for big files, but i have more small files than big files.
17:31 < Xenos> reiserfs is the fastest for small files
17:31 < Xenos> yep
17:31 < Xenos> :)))))
17:32 < sepp> jfs is small on every file
17:32 < Xenos> :)
17:32 < sepp> slow i mean
17:32 < mnemoc> ack
17:33 < Xenos> hm
17:33 < Xenos> mnemoc, did you work with irc?
17:33 < Xenos> i'm about irc-serv
17:33 < mnemoc> no
17:34 < mnemoc> i prefer big networks
17:34 < Xenos> :)
17:34 < Xenos> you prefer be a client
17:34 < mnemoc> for inhouse comunication, jabber.
17:34 < Xenos> ah, i see
17:34 < mnemoc> i don't find any benefit of running my own irc service
17:35 < Xenos> :)
17:36 < Xenos> what;s about audi-video?
17:36 < Xenos> *audio
17:39 < mnemoc> i don't even have an audio card....
17:39 < sepp> :D
17:39 < mnemoc> but ser for SIP, and asterisk for the rest would be my choice
17:39 < Xenos> :)
17:47 < Xenos> heh
17:47 < Xenos> want to increase t2-community..
17:47 < mnemoc> we too
17:48 < mnemoc> too much work to do :p
17:48 < Xenos> :D
17:48 < Xenos> more adv..
17:49 < Xenos> but..
17:50 < Xenos> popular distros are so simple..
17:50 < Xenos> suse, fedora, mandriva..
17:50 < Xenos> :/
17:50 < mnemoc> simple to what?
17:50 < Xenos> installation, for exampple
17:51 < Xenos> just several clicks of mice..
17:51 < mnemoc> btw, you mentioned distributions with big companies behind
17:51 < Xenos> yeah..
17:51 < Xenos> :/
17:52 < mnemoc> installation may be simple, but they are over patched, so updates and compatibility are a big mess
17:52 < Xenos> agree
17:52 < Xenos> == 11/16/05 19:50:34 =[1]=> Finished building package linux26.
17:52 < mnemoc> we keep them _pristine_, no new bug are added by T2 to any package
17:52 < Xenos> :)
17:53 < mnemoc> so any update or fix comming from upstream can be included in a minute
17:56 < Xenos> and
17:56 < Xenos> there are too many distro at all
17:56 < Xenos> for example
17:57 < mnemoc> most are simply customizations of big distributions
17:57 < Xenos> i found t2 by searching it on distrowatch.com & using filter "source-based"
17:57 < Xenos> only 10 distros of this class..
17:57 < Xenos> :/
17:58 < mnemoc> and we wont the 'worse logo' conquest
17:58 < mnemoc> worst*
17:58 < Xenos> :)
18:00 < Xenos> heh
18:00 < Xenos> i spent about 20 mins to make my avatar in gimp
18:01 < mnemoc> any logo proposal for t2 is welcome
18:01 < Xenos> mm
18:01 < Xenos> any restrictions?
18:02 < mnemoc> no
18:02 < mnemoc> svg :)
18:03 < sepp> and it should have the of a thumbnail :P
18:03 < Xenos> :)
18:03 < Xenos> nice
18:03 < Xenos> i can try
18:04 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: any news?
18:04 < sparc-kly> i send fax today :)
18:05 < Xenos> hmm
18:05 < Xenos> this is not a bug, i think
18:05 < mnemoc> Xenos: ?
18:05 < Xenos> but some message..
18:05 < Xenos> ./scripts/Check-PkgFormat: line 39: 19846 Segmentation fault egrep -q '^[^#]*\bflistdel' $pdir/$package.conf
18:05 < mnemoc> outch
18:06 < Xenos> not on every pack-build
18:06 < sparc-kly> en caso de que mi tarjeta de credito no la quieran cojer vi que se puede pagar en money order so eso are . :)
18:06 < sparc-kly> uups
18:06 < Xenos> ergh
18:06 < sparc-kly> english sucks
18:06 < sparc-kly> LOL
18:06 < Xenos> :F
18:06 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: :-)
18:07 < Xenos> this msg is after build-string
18:07 < Xenos> for ex.
18:07 < Xenos> == 19:50:41 =[1]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.31 2.1-stable].
18:07 < Xenos> ./scripts/Check-PkgFormat: line 39: 19846 Segmentation fault egrep -q '^[^#]*\bflistdel' $pdir/$package.conf
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18:09 < Xenos> nick-completion suffix changed from "," to ":"..
18:10 < mnemoc> Xenos: your host seems to be borked
18:10 < Xenos> hmm
18:10 < Xenos> -> Reading build/.../tools.cross/lib/pkg_linux24_post.conf
18:10 < Xenos> -> Preparing build in src.linux24.minimal.20051116.195035.19596.VEX
18:10 < Xenos> my host is "VEX"
18:11 < mnemoc> egrep -q '^[^#]*\bflistdel' package/base/linux24/linux24.conf <---- segfaults too?
18:11 < Xenos> :)
18:11 < Xenos> hm..
18:11 < Xenos> no, as i see
18:11 < CIA-1> amery * r13385 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.8.6 -> 2.8.7)
18:12 < Xenos> hm
18:12 < Xenos> gtk+
18:12 < Xenos> gtk+ 2.6 vs gtk+ 2.8 ? :)
18:12 * Xenos prefer 2.6..
18:12 < mnemoc> 2.1 has 2.6, 2.2 has 2.8
18:13 < Xenos> 2.2 is the really newest distro :D
18:13 < Xenos> xorg 7, gtk+ 2.8..
18:14 < mnemoc> kde 2.5
18:14 < mnemoc> 3.5
18:14 < Xenos> :)))))))
18:14 < Xenos> heh, yep
18:14 < Xenos> hm, but for example
18:14 < Xenos> i'll install 2.1
18:15 < Xenos> then what i need to do to install, for example, xorg?
18:16 < mnemoc> build desktop target until you know t2 enough to make your own target
18:16 < Xenos> hm
18:16 < Xenos> xorg is any example
18:17 < Xenos> i'm about installing software
18:17 < mnemoc> pkgsel or emerge
18:17 < Xenos> are there any special scripts for autodownloading packages, compiling & installing them?
18:17 < mnemoc> or, in future 'sam'
18:17 < mnemoc> emerge
18:17 < Xenos> mm
18:20 < _Ragnar_> hi
18:20 < Xenos> hello, _Ragnar_
18:26 * mnemoc love firefox's keywords
18:26 < _Ragnar_> hi Xenos :)
18:26 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_
18:26 < _Ragnar_> wish firefox wasn't so sloooow
18:27 < mnemoc> doesn't run slow on this box :)
18:30 < _Ragnar_> which is
18:30 < _Ragnar_> ?
18:32 < Xenos> ???
18:32 < Xenos> oops
18:32 < Xenos> :F
18:33 < mnemoc> p4/2.8HT/768M/T2-azazel-optimized-for-my-machine/xfce4
18:33 < mnemoc> unicode boy :(
18:34 < Xenos> mnemoc: just ctrl+shift
18:34 < Xenos> )
18:34 < Xenos> switching between RU/EN char maps..
18:35 < Xenos> mnemoc: did u see new sf.net design?
18:37 < mnemoc> it doesn't even load
18:38 < Xenos> argh, yep..
18:38 < Xenos> i saw 2 hours ago..
18:41 < mnemoc> ok, i saw it.
18:41 < mnemoc> what about it?
18:41 < Xenos> new one
18:41 < Xenos> isn't it?
18:42 < CIA-1> amery * r13386 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer-codecs/ (. mplayer-codecs.conf mplayer-codecs.desc): * added mplayer-codecs (20050412) - MPlayer Essential Codecs Pack
18:43 < mnemoc> seems to be different than the last time i had to go there
18:43 < Xenos> :)
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19:10 < Xenos> hi, MisterN
19:11 < MisterN> hi
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19:34 < mnemoc> i hate language-fixed programs
19:35 < Xenos> mnemoc: ?
19:36 < Xenos> yehaa
19:36 < Xenos> Finishing build.
19:36 < Xenos> -> Creating package database ...
19:36 < Xenos> -> Creating isofs.txt file ..
19:36 < mnemoc> which can be built for one ui locale only
19:36 < Xenos> m
19:36 < Xenos> yep
19:36 < mnemoc> even if they support multiple languages
19:37 < mnemoc> you can build firefox in russian, or in english or in spanish. but not of the three of them
19:37 < Xenos> scripts/Create-ISO t2-minimal-vx boot minimal <- my last command :>
19:37 < Xenos> hmmm, firefox..
19:37 < Xenos> 1.5 final released?
19:39 < mnemoc> rc2
19:43 < Xenos> heh
19:43 < Xenos> installing t2 on vmware.. :>
19:44 * Xenos thanks mnemoc for his hard work ;)
19:45 < mnemoc> which work?
19:45 < Xenos> help for me to install t2, for example :>
19:45 < Xenos> & development of t2 ;)
19:46 < mnemoc> :D
19:46 < mnemoc> you are welcome
19:46 < Xenos> ;)
19:56 * Xenos is going to burn mini cd-r
19:56 < Xenos> vmware-tests are ok ;>
19:58 < Xenos> heh
19:58 < Xenos> 145 mbytes of the great distro..
19:58 < Xenos> cool
19:58 < Xenos> :>
20:01 < SerWou> good evening
20:03 < SerWou> i would like to setup software raid, should i have to recompile to kernel to active RAID1 ? I know i have to emerge railtools in a second time
20:04 < valentin> hi
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20:04 < kmilo> Hi
20:09 < Xenos> hello, kmilo
20:09 < Xenos> heh
20:09 < Xenos> cd burned :>>>
20:12 < mnemoc> SerWou: aren't the modules you need enabled by default?
20:15 < SerWou> basically, i need that : http://nyal.developpez.com/tutoriel/linux/raid/images/config_raid.png
20:16 < SerWou> i wonder if modules are enable by default
20:16 < mnemoc> do makemenu by hand, and see what CONFIG_ they represent, or do your guesses greping /boot/kconfig_*
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20:18 < mnemoc> grep RAID /boot/kconfig_2.6.10-dist
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID0=y
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID10=m
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID5=y
20:18 < mnemoc> CONFIG_MD_RAID6=m
20:19 < SerWou> CONFIG_MD_RAID1=y
20:19 < SerWou> me TOO ;)
20:19 < SerWou> gorgeous
20:19 < _Ragnar_> ??
20:19 < SerWou> so it should be good
20:20 < SerWou> emerge raidtools and it will run ?
20:20 < mnemoc> i hope so
20:21 < SerWou> i have to study /etc/raidtab who looks chinese for me ;)
20:25 < SerWou> thanks mnemoc
20:25 < mnemoc> np :)
20:30 < CIA-1> amery * r13387 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * introduced pkgprefix ver $pkg, to see what version is currently installed.
20:31 < CIA-1> amery * r13388 /branches/2.1/package/multimedia/mplayerplug-in/ (mplayerplug-in.conf mplayerplug-in.desc): * merged 9797,10722,13151,13201 from trunk: updated mplayerplug-in (2.75 -> 3.15)
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21:16 < jsaw> re
21:16 < Xenos> hello
21:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: how was lwe?
21:16 < jsaw> <- back from lwe
21:17 < jsaw> mnemoc: actually a bit small, but it was far more interesting to meet a few devs irl :)
21:17 < mnemoc> devs irl?
21:18 < jsaw> developers in-real-life
21:18 < mnemoc> :D
21:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: what do you see when you type "failure" into www.google.com and press the second button (In german, it's "Auf gut GlÃück")
21:20 < jsaw> (I'm feeling lucky)
21:21 < mnemoc> Biography of President George W. Bush!!!!!
21:21 < jsaw> hehe
21:21 < _Ragnar_> of course :) google knows :)
21:21 < jsaw> me too
21:22 < jsaw> nicemessage
21:22 < Xenos> muahhahaha
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21:22 < Xenos> :>>
21:28 -!- Xenos is now known as VX
21:28 < jsaw> ?
21:29 -!- VX is now known as Xenos
21:30 < jsaw> hehe, second entry for normal search for "failure" on google is micheal moore
21:31 < mnemoc> i guess there is a campain to produce that
21:32 < jsaw> actually quite some american companies were hiding some political message on their web pages, so I wouldn't wonder if this is actually a statement
21:50 < jsaw> aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
21:50 < CIA-1> jsaw * r13389 /trunk/package/contrib/directfb/ (dfb_types.patch directfb.desc): * update directfb (0.9.23 -> 0.9.24)
21:51 < jsaw> svn stuck due to depleted /dev/random, .oO(and I thought the admins blocked something...stupid me)
21:52 < CIA-1> jsaw * r13390 /trunk/package/x11/cairo/hidden-INT-fix.patch:
21:52 < CIA-1> * fix build with fresh binutils
21:52 < CIA-1> (correctness of the patch is not yet confirmed by cairo developers,
21:52 < CIA-1> please test functionality)
21:59 * Xenos is going to install T2
21:59 < jsaw> :)
22:00 < Xenos> i'll join us, when it will be installed & configured ;)
22:00 < Xenos> *join you ;)
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22:12 < jsaw> can somebody verify cups-pdf md5 sum?
22:18 < CIA-1> rene * r13391 /trunk/package/base/flex/flex.conf: * slightly cleanup for flex.conf just for fun
22:23 < jsaw> hi rxr
22:23 < jsaw> rxr: The DB delay yesterday was a assault on railways (according to FAZ)
22:27 < jsaw> <- tired, cu
22:28 < sepp> so now the incompetent german railway blames al qaida?
22:29 < MisterN> you must not not trust faz
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22:48 < MisterN> n8
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