T2 IRC Log: 2005-11-09

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--- Log opened Wed Nov 09 00:00:53 2005
00:01 < mnemoc> re
00:02 < mnemoc> rxr: he just phone me o.o
00:03 < mnemoc> karasz: postgres on 2.1 will be 8.0.x for ever, trunk can go to 8.1
00:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: just a few... i.e. bad.
00:03 < morfoh> hi mnemoc !
00:03 < morfoh> mnemoc: :/
00:33 < karasz> hi mnemoc
00:33 < karasz> that it IS what i sugested
00:33 < karasz> released == frozen
00:33 < karasz> trunk == ever changing
00:35 < mnemoc> :)
00:35 < mnemoc> not version frozen, but API/ABI/prefix/config frozen
00:36 < mnemoc> probably 8.0.x -> 8.1 has ABI changes
00:36 < karasz> nope
00:36 < karasz> at least not that i am aware of
00:36 < karasz> but will build and share the findings...
00:36 < mnemoc> :)
00:37 < karasz> but i can not just now since i have no computer :'(
00:37 < mnemoc> are you here by telepaty?
00:41 < madtux> mnemoc, stop playing smart ass and just take care of the update
00:41 * madtux runs
00:42 < karasz> madtux, madtux ....
00:42 < mnemoc> :)
00:42 < karasz> naughty naughty
00:42 < madtux> hahaha
00:42 < madtux> karasz, i could not resist it
00:42 < morfoh> madtux said just the truth :)
00:42 * morfoh runs too
00:43 < madtux> hahaha
00:43 < madtux> see how cruel mnemoc is... he simple ignore us.
00:43 < madtux> not nice mnemoc
00:45 < morfoh> madtux: but anyway .. we like him like he is
00:45 < morfoh> at least me is running into bed now ... good night folks
00:45 < madtux> well if we change our minds there is enought meat to feed the rat for a while
00:46 < madtux> ok... sleep well morfoh
00:46 < morfoh> madtux: yep
00:46 < morfoh> cu
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00:49 < karasz> cu
00:49 < karasz> i hav to go now
00:49 < karasz> bye all
00:58 < mnemoc> bye karasz
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02:33 < axion> hi, on boot i get: RTNETLINK: file exists when starting the network script. The network goes up but it errors...why?
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02:34 < mnemoc> err
02:34 < mnemoc> i was writting the answer!!
02:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: are you awake?
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03:18 < _Ragnar_> re
03:20 < mnemoc> wb _Ragnar_
03:20 < _Ragnar_> thanks
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08:42 < valentin> moin
08:43 < rxr> moin valentin
08:43 < rxr> mnemoc: mr. archivista phoned you ?
08:53 < valentin> hi rxr
09:10 < rxr> valentin: have you looked at the immense http://www.t2-project.org stats ?
09:16 < karasz> moin
09:16 < CIA-14> rene * r13233 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (205 -> 206)
09:18 < CIA-14> rene * r13234 /trunk/package/security/botan/botan.desc: * updated botan (1.4.8 -> 1.4.9)
09:19 < CIA-14> rene * r13235 /trunk/package/network/openvpn/openvpn.desc: * updated openvpn (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5)
10:17 < rxr> re
10:52 < rxr> X11R7 cirrus driver is defect
10:53 < rxr> the one needed for quemu
10:53 < rxr> what a fun
11:03 < rxr> cool - and fixed
11:29 < rxr> valentin: are you in ah or @home today ?
11:29 < karasz> re moin all
11:34 < CIA-14> rene * r13236 /trunk/package/base/serpnp/ (serpnp.conf serpnp.desc serpnp.init):
11:34 < CIA-14> * updated serpnp (0.0.1 -> 0.0.2), finally fixed the serpnp.init script
11:34 < CIA-14> for m4 postprocessing and install it
11:36 < rxr> moin karasz
11:40 < rxr> mnemoc: Open Patch: 2005110520444731232 [by stf]
11:40 < rxr>
11:40 < rxr> Stefan Fiedler:
11:40 < rxr> mozilla: copy freetype, gcc-4.0, MOZ_PLUGIN_DIR patches from T2
12:18 < jsaw> re
12:18 < rxr> hi jsaw
12:18 < jsaw> hi rxr
12:19 < jsaw> once again 1-linux26 fails...
12:19 < jsaw> xargs <- too many args...
12:19 < jsaw> :(
12:19 < jsaw> does anybody remember what we did the last time?
12:20 < rxr> jsaw: searching wich place this is and change the expression to not be sensitive to arglist ...
12:31 < jsaw> .oO(feared that)
12:33 < rxr> with XTRACE it is easy
12:33 < jsaw> ====[main_lx:1 (last $?=0)> make ARCH=i386 CROSS_COMPILE=i586-t2-linux-gnu- KCC=
12:33 < jsaw> i586-t2-linux-gnu-kcc -j 1 clean
12:33 < jsaw> xargs: environment is too large for exec
12:34 < jsaw> ... easy ? ...
12:34 < rxr> oh
12:34 < rxr> that are the linux Makefiles itself, ...
12:34 < jsaw> yep
12:35 < rxr> have fun then ,-)
12:35 < jsaw> :P
12:44 < karasz> #kanotix
12:45 < karasz> :$
12:48 < CIA-14> rene * r13237 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
12:48 < CIA-14> * added a (short) README(.html) to the livecd's Desktop and let KDE
12:48 < CIA-14> Autostart Konqueror with it
12:50 < rxr> The new livecd first release candidate will most probably be available this afternoon ...
12:50 < rxr> as you can imagine from the fine tuning commits ,-)
12:52 < CIA-14> rene * r13238 /trunk/target/livecd/pkgsel:
12:52 < CIA-14> * improved livecd/pkgsel: firefox instead of mozilla added wget, curl,
12:52 < CIA-14> netconf and zile
12:53 < CIA-14> rene * r13239 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-cirrus/modular.patch:
12:53 < CIA-14> * fixed xf86-video-cirrus to actually work (split the sub-modules into
12:53 < CIA-14> sub-modules) - works under Qemu and thus allows me testing the livecd
12:55 < CIA-14> rene * r13240 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/kde3/bin/ (. startkde):
12:55 < CIA-14> * imported the previous livecd's startkde modification to set the
12:55 < CIA-14> keyboard layout according to the language selected in the wizard
12:55 < CIA-14> rene * r13241 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc: * fixed #! encoding in livecd/.../kdmrc
12:56 < CIA-14> rene * r13242 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/etc/sudoers:
12:56 < CIA-14> * imported livecd/etc/sudoers modification from previous livecd: allow
12:56 < CIA-14> any command
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13:06 < madtux> hello.
13:06 < rxr> hi madtux
13:06 < rxr> miguel even ,-)
13:07 < rxr> how are you ?
13:07 < madtux> i am doing great, how about u my friend?
13:07 < madtux> :)
13:08 < rxr> oh - fine as well
13:09 < madtux> glad to hear
13:27 < rxr> ouhm - time to mention that I hate libtool ...
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13:59 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
13:59 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 4 16:55:33 2005]
13:59 [Users #t2]
13:59 [ _Ragnar_] [ karasz] [ mtr] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly]
13:59 [ CIA-14 ] [ madtux] [ owl] [ sepp ] [ valentin ]
13:59 [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ SerWou]
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14:03 < jsaw> rxr_: I have no idea how to solve the "xargs: environment is too large for exec"
14:04 < jsaw> I had the same error with ooo, there IIRC I removed the "SDECFG_" variables in the .conf
14:32 -!- You're now known as rxr
15:17 < karasz> re moin
15:18 < karasz> rxr are you around?
15:30 < rxr> sort of
15:34 < CIA-14> rene * r13243 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live/Autostart/knetconf.desktop: * added knetconf autostart to the livecd target
15:37 < mnemoc> moin!
15:38 < rxr> moin mnemoc
15:38 < CIA-14> rene * r13244 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * moved the livecd Autostart into the correct .kde/ place
15:38 < mnemoc> moin rxr
15:40 < rxr> mnemoc: what did you mean in the night with phoning ? that mr. archivista called you ?
15:40 < mnemoc> yes, to my cell phone
15:40 < mnemoc> when i was with my daughters on the bus :p
15:41 < mnemoc> imagine us trying to talk english with that noise
15:41 < rxr> .o ,-)
15:42 < rxr> and?
15:43 < mnemoc> he gave me a password to a running archiwhateverbox
15:44 < rxr> and ?
15:45 < mnemoc> nothing yet.... he is writting a doc to tell me what he needs
15:47 < rxr> mnemoc: do you think it is worth to optimize livecd rsync invocations with 4-6 lines of hardcoded optimization flist rules or is that too harmfull ?
15:48 < rxr> for my current livcd the 9330 files-exclude
15:49 < rxr> files-exclude has 9330 entries ... - which let's rsync consume a lot of CPU interating over it for each file
15:49 < rxr> though on this Athlon XP 2500+ it is still IO bound
15:49 < rxr> but on slower boxes it will drive rsync to CPU limits ...
15:50 < mnemoc> rxr: $RSYNCHARMFULLOPTS :)
15:50 < rxr> excluding stuff like var/adm/logs and var/adm/olists, ... and filter them out of the exclude list would reduce those by a huge ammount
15:51 < mnemoc> --exclude /var/adm/logs/ ?
15:51 < rxr> 2768 less compares per file ...
15:51 < rxr> in the current livecd case ...
15:52 < rxr> mnemoc: well - grep -v ... in the diff that parses the lists and explicitly echo those once into the exclude file I would ...
15:52 < rxr> well - I think it is worth that hardcoded assumption, ok ?
15:52 < mnemoc> ack
15:52 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. I though about your pkgsel stuff - feel free to modify it to what you posted to the list - it is ok for me as well
16:02 < mnemoc> i was also thinking
16:02 < mnemoc> using multiple and patterns per line we could
16:03 < mnemoc> X multimedia/ lib* :-)
16:03 < mnemoc> s/and/AND/
16:05 < madtux> master mnemoc
16:07 < mnemoc> hi mickey
16:07 < madtux> how are u today my master?
16:12 < mnemoc> living, and you?
16:12 < madtux> i guess living too
16:14 < mnemoc> at least you are better than some weeks ago :)
16:15 < madtux> much better
16:15 < madtux> thanks to good friends like yourself
16:20 < mnemoc> :)
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16:21 < madtux> hello mipe
16:22 < mipe> hi madtux
16:23 < mnemoc> hi mipe
16:23 < mipe> hi mnemoc
16:27 < mipe> anyone doing or have desktop target build for amd64?
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16:29 < rxr> mipe: on my subnotebook, yes
16:30 < mipe> will you upload it to somewhere for download?
16:31 < rxr> well - trunk has no new instller yet ...
16:33 < mipe> and old one doesnt work?
16:36 < rxr> ic you really want a prebuilt ...
16:36 < rxr> mipe: there is a 2.1 x86-64 ISO IIRC
16:37 < mipe> rxr: i only saw t2-minimal at website, checking again....
16:38 < mipe> yep,minimal only
16:39 < rxr> ic
16:45 < mipe> but no hurry, i can wait... need to do some thesis work...
16:52 < karasz> anyone knows an online abbreviation generator?
16:55 < CIA-14> amery * r13245 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4mcs/libxfce4mcs.desc: * updated libxfce4mcs (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:55 < CIA-14> amery * r13246 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/libxfce4util.desc: * updated libxfce4util (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3.1)
16:55 < CIA-14> amery * r13247 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.desc: * updated libxfcegui4 (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:56 < CIA-14> amery * r13248 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfcalendar/xfcalendar.desc: * updated xfcalendar (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:56 < CIA-14> amery * r13249 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-appfinder/xfce4-appfinder.desc: * updated xfce4-appfinder (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:56 < CIA-14> amery * r13250 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-iconbox/xfce4-iconbox.desc: * updated xfce4-iconbox (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13251 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-icon-theme/xfce4-icon-theme.desc: * updated xfce4-icon-theme (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13252 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-mixer/xfce4-mixer.desc: * updated xfce4-mixer (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13253 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel.desc: * updated xfce4-panel (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13254 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.desc: * updated xfce4-session (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13255 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-systray/xfce4-systray.desc: * updated xfce4-systray (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:57 < CIA-14> amery * r13256 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-toys/xfce4-toys.desc: * updated xfce4-toys (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:58 < CIA-14> amery * r13257 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-trigger-launcher/xfce4-trigger-launcher.desc: * updated xfce4-trigger-launcher (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:59 < CIA-14> amery * r13258 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-manager (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
16:59 < CIA-14> amery * r13259 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-plugins/xfce-mcs-plugins.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-plugins (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13260 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-utils/xfce-utils.desc: * updated xfce-utils (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13261 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.desc: * updated xfdesktop (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13262 /trunk/package/xfce4/xffm/xffm.desc: * updated xffm (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13263 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfprint/xfprint.desc: * updated xfprint (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13264 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4/xfwm4.desc: * updated xfwm4 (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3.1)
17:00 < CIA-14> amery * r13265 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4-themes/xfwm4-themes.desc: * updated xfwm4-themes (4.2.2 -> 4.2.3)
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17:30 < CIA-14> rene * r13266 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/sbin/init.d/system: * improved livecd system.init to autodetect existing swap space
17:31 < CIA-14> rene * r13267 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/kde3/bin/startkde: * fixed malformed livecd startkde overlay patch
17:31 < CIA-14> rene * r13268 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/home/live.perm:
17:31 < CIA-14> * fixed the livecd target to recursively change home/live permissions,
17:31 < CIA-14> now that there are more files in it
17:33 < mnemoc> rxr: do you know a filter (or how to make one) to convert plain-raw-old-dos-text into ps/pdf under certain (small) fontsize?
17:33 < mnemoc> rxr: when dosemu tries to print thinking it has a dot-matrix small-font printer
17:34 < rxr> sell - sed the dos linending to unix and throw it into some asci to ps filter?
17:34 < rxr> asps or enscript?
17:35 < mnemoc> will they honor char 12 for new page?
17:35 < rxr> ?
17:35 < rxr> oeh
17:35 < rxr> no idea - sed if needed ,-)=
17:37 < mnemoc> :)
17:46 < mnemoc> http://www.eprg.org/pdfcorner/text2pdf/text2pdf.c :D
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18:17 < axionline> I'm using 2.1.0 and the network boot script errors with "RTNETLINK answers: file exists", but otherwise works fine
18:18 < rxr> axionline: I guess you added the bug to our issue tracker?
18:18 < rxr> I'll debug this issue soon - though it is just cosmetical
18:19 < axionline> I've had the problem on LFS too...I'm wondering how to fix it myself
18:20 < rxr> axionline: some init script does some network setting twice or one that equals the default in the kernel
18:21 < rxr> axionline: I have not yet taken a look where this is exactly
18:22 < axionline> rxr: ok
18:22 < axionline> I'll add the issue
18:23 < mnemoc> rxr: rockplug's net.plug does ifup when detects the interface on init time
18:24 < mnemoc> i was thinking is adding a if [ -z "$DONTSTARTNETWORK" ]; then in there
18:24 < mnemoc> in*
18:24 < axionline> by the way, excellent work so far. i'll stick around and help as i can
18:25 < rxr> mnemoc: nope this start on plug is evil
18:25 < rxr> mnemoc: it must be removed in the first place
18:25 < mnemoc> what about hotplug net devices?
18:25 < rxr> most probably the reason why I always have 20 ppp0's on my router ...
18:26 < _Ragnar_> huh?
18:26 < rxr> # ps ax | grep pppd | wc -l
18:26 < rxr> 25
18:26 < rxr> time to kill some again ...
18:27 < mnemoc> o.o
18:27 < mnemoc> $ ps aux | grep pppd | wc -l
18:27 < mnemoc> 2
18:27 < _Ragnar_> how about writing and checking lockfiles?
18:28 < _Ragnar_> ps aux | grep pppd | wc -l 1
18:28 < mnemoc> it's not a matter of locks, just to distinguishing between first-scan and others
18:29 < rxr> mnemoc: nope
18:29 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: 1? that means only 'grep'
18:29 < mnemoc> rxr: then?
18:29 < _Ragnar_> indeed :)
18:30 < rxr> if you have virtual interfaces you'll always get a plug signal when you ifup and it is created then
18:30 < rxr> this is evil
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18:31 < mnemoc> wb axion :)
18:32 < axion> thanks :)
18:33 < mnemoc> rxr: plug signal when you ifup? that would mean an inf loop which doesn't exist
18:33 < rxr> nope - it exists then - so only one feedback - not inf.
18:34 < rxr> but one more stalling pppd per ifup ...
18:36 < rxr> mnemoc: does ooo need mozilla or is firefox ok for this NSPR s.th. libs ?
18:36 < mnemoc> how do you think this problem can be solved without loosing auto start on real plugs?
18:36 < mnemoc> rxr: if mozilla is not available ooo build it's own
18:39 < rxr> urghs
18:39 < rxr> mnemoc: needs meditation
18:43 < mnemoc> ooo/mozilla or hotplug/'network start' issue?
18:44 < rxr> urgs to mozilla, meditation for the other
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18:47 < karasz> rxr do you feel like booting around?
18:48 < karasz> and btw did you get your stuff from openpower?
18:56 < rxr> booting around?
18:56 < rxr> well - all reasonable is commited
18:56 < karasz> ok
18:56 < karasz> booting around=fiddling with boot target
18:57 < rxr> well - I fear I'm out of time for that - too much stuff to finish before linux world expo
18:57 < karasz> when is the world expo?
18:57 < rxr> next week
18:57 < karasz> huh
18:57 < karasz> too soon i guess...
18:57 < mnemoc> .oO( why the h* are the days so f* short! )o
18:58 < karasz> :D
18:58 < rxr> mnemoc: ack!
18:58 * rxr away
18:58 < karasz> ok then i will pack the openpower tomorrow
19:07 < _Ragnar_> hmmm SDK for cell out :)
19:08 < karasz> _Ragnar_ really :-|
19:08 < karasz> ?
19:08 < karasz> whou...
19:09 < karasz> CELL arch somenone? :)
19:09 < _Ragnar_> :)
19:09 < karasz> i made up a new word :(
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19:09 < karasz> somenone...:(
19:09 < _Ragnar_> :)
19:10 < karasz> damn thoose typos...
19:10 < karasz> anyway _Ragnar_ what do you think of that?
19:10 < _Ragnar_> I want one :)
19:10 < karasz> a SDK?
19:11 < karasz> or a CELL based computer?
19:11 < _Ragnar_> cell based comp :)
19:11 < karasz> i guess that they are not out yet, or am i mistaken?
19:12 < _Ragnar_> yea
19:12 < mipe> i doubt they are out... ps3 will be the first one i guess
19:12 < karasz> they will wait until PSIII
19:12 < _Ragnar_> ;0
19:12 < karasz> march 2006
19:12 < _Ragnar_> next year
19:12 < karasz> CELL is power based?
19:13 < karasz> hmmm no
19:13 < _Ragnar_> roughly yes
19:13 < karasz> but still there are major diferences
19:13 < karasz> i guess that we can call it a new cpu
19:14 * karasz wonders...
19:14 < _Ragnar_> indeed
19:14 < _Ragnar_> I wonder if the FPUs can be used to speed up compiling
19:54 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live/
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19:59 < mnemoc> rxr: what about gatling at gsmp? apache autoindex is unreadable
20:00 < mnemoc> rxr: sed filtering piped to text2pdf piped to lpr solved my dosemu printing isse :)
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20:53 < MisterN> hi
20:58 < mnemoc> hi mr. gentoo
20:59 < MisterN> well switching distros is just sooo annoying :)
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21:00 < mnemoc> :)
21:01 < MisterN> plus i'm waiting for the new livecd
21:10 < mnemoc> [15:54:59] http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live/ <--- i guess rene mentioned it to be tested :) (1h ago)
21:11 < MisterN> yes but i fear that bugs might make me stick to gentoo. and i'm really not happy with its performance (portage + boot)
21:12 < MisterN> whatever i'll waste a cdr and test it on my brother's computer :D
21:12 < MisterN> delta or gamma?
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21:14 < karasz> yes delat or gamma?
21:16 < MisterN> i'll get the newer
21:16 < sepp> look at the timestamp :p
21:17 < sepp> moin all
21:17 < MisterN> sepp: i did. and i just found out that those greek letters might have just alphabet-meaning
21:18 < MisterN> this will take some time ... 22 KB/s
21:35 < rxr> MisterN: you can just wait some more days
21:36 < rxr> the final cd will be more polished and on our usual servers that are way faster ,-)
21:37 < MisterN> yes, i fear i can't wait for 10 hrs
21:38 < MisterN> I'm really curious *G*
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22:22 < CIA-14> amery * r13269 /trunk/package/develop/alternatives/Makefile.patch: * fixed alternatives to be stage-9 safe (install when it's already installed)
22:36 < CIA-14> amery * r13270 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnocl/rebuild_safe.patch: * fixed gnocl to build fine on stage-9
22:36 < mnemoc> bbl
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23:36 < karasz> re moin
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