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00:03 < CIA-2> pfister * r12676 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/kbd.sh: More languages codes
00:21 < CIA-2> pfister * r12677 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/kbd.sh: Finally, we have US,French,German,Italian,SwissGerman,SwissFrench,SwissItalian
00:30 < mnemoc> me hate to work lagged
00:32 < CIA-2> aldas * r12678 /trunk/package/graphic/vips/vips.desc: * updated vips (7.10.14 -> 7.10.15)
00:33 < CIA-2> aldas * r12679 /trunk/package/graphic/nip2/nip2.desc: * updated nip2 (7.10.10 -> 7.10.14)
00:35 < CIA-2> pfister * r12680 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/menu: Added menu entries for ftp server
01:34 < CIA-2> aldas * r12681 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (4.1.14 -> 4.1.15)
01:35 < Baldzius> good night :)
02:00 < _Ragnar_> rxr: why don't we have a GCC_WRAPPER_REPLACE like with the install wrapper?
02:19 < _Ragnar_> *lol* error: 'long long long' is too long for GCC
02:28 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: usually you add or remove to gcc, not rename like on install_wrapper
02:29 < _Ragnar_> s,/lib,/lib64, would be VERY good for that tho
02:30 < mnemoc> /lib6464
02:30 < _Ragnar_> blah
02:33 < _Ragnar_> s,/lib(?!64),/lib64,
02:47 < mnemoc> does apache .55 build on trunk?
02:48 < mnemoc> modules/generators/.libs/mod_cgi.a(mod_cgi.o)(.text+0x5cc): In function `run_cgi_child':
02:48 < mnemoc> mod_cgi.c: undefined reference to `apr_procattr_addrspace_set'
02:48 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
02:49 < _Ragnar_> same here
02:50 < mnemoc> trunk or 2.1?
02:50 < _Ragnar_> trunk
02:50 < mnemoc> ok, i'll not update then :p
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03:01 < CIA-2> amery * r12682 /trunk/package/games/freeciv/freeciv.desc: * updated freeciv (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6)
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05:01 < CIA-2> amery * r12683 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/unionfs/unionfs.desc: * updated unionfs (1.0.13 -> 1.0.14)
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08:37 < rxr> re
08:45 < _Ragnar_> hi rene
08:46 < rxr> hey _Ragnar_
08:58 < valentin> moin
09:06 < rxr> moin valentin
09:06 < rxr> valentin: my parents will stay at home ...
09:06 < rxr> valentin: the new access point will arrivve today
09:06 < rxr> valentin: Linksys WRT54G
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09:27 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 RELEASED! | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
09:27 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Sat Sep 17 20:47:59 2005]
09:27 [Users #t2]
09:27 [ _Lewellyn] [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg] [ rxr ]
09:27 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ CIA-2 ] [ lewellyn] [ mtr_ ] [ owl] [ valentin]
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09:27 < rxr> re
09:33 < rxr> valentin: I might missed some stuff due reconnect ...
09:33 < rxr> 09:06 < rxr> valentin: my parents will stay at home ...
09:33 < rxr> 09:06 < rxr> valentin: the new access point will arrivve today
09:33 < rxr> 09:06 < rxr> valentin: Linksys WRT54G
10:13 < Baldzius> good morning
10:28 < CIA-2> aldas * r12684 /trunk/package/network/lftp/lftp.desc: * updated lftp (3.3.1 -> 3.3.2)
11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12685 /trunk/architecture/sparc/archtest.sh: * compacted sparc architecture case
11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12686 /trunk/package/x11/libgd/ (fontconfig.patch libgd.conf):
11:44 < CIA-2> * fixed libgd by removing a non-applying patch and inject
11:44 < CIA-2> the necessary include directories in the .conf file
11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12687 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/parse-config:
11:44 < CIA-2> * improved sparc64 parse-config to allow fine grained arch_machine
11:44 < CIA-2> control for the 32bit multilib builds
11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12688 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.desc: * marked hotplug++ as DIETLIBC as needed
11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12689 /trunk/package/base/gmp/sparc.patch: * cleaned the gmp/sparc.patch
11:44 < CIA-2> rene * r12690 /trunk/package/security/openssl/ (openssl.conf sparc.patch):
11:44 < CIA-2> * simplified openssl/sparc arch_machine case and made it aware of recently optimized
11:44 < CIA-2> settings within T2
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11:44 < rxr> moin Baldzius
11:44 < Baldzius> moin rxr :)
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13:43 < karasz> moin all
13:43 < SerWou> good morning all
14:16 < jsaw> re
14:45 < rxr> hi jsaw !
14:45 < jsaw> hi rxr
14:45 < jsaw> how are you doing?
14:49 < rxr> oh fine, thanks - and you?
14:51 < jsaw> since I changed to a more regular time table, I feel much better :)
14:51 < jsaw> which means: good, thanks
14:52 < rxr> ,-)
14:54 < rxr> jsaw: any chance to see you at the linux world expo ?
14:55 < jsaw> The family is also quite ok, only that autumn leaves its traces... (they are getting a cold etc.)
14:55 < jsaw> rxr: definitely, family is already informed that I'll leave to LWE for at least one day
15:08 < rxr> jsaw: ,-)
15:26 < rxr> I just hacked to get stage 0 builds ccached ,-)
15:26 < mnemoc> moin
15:27 < mnemoc> rxr: per arch?
15:27 < rxr> moin mnemoc
15:27 < mnemoc> moin rxr
15:27 < rxr> hm
15:27 < rxr> well - right now it would use the build/ccache-$arch
15:28 < rxr> that is indeed imperfect since building on a x86 host for powerpc would place them in build/ccache-$arch :-(
15:28 < rxr> build/ccache-powerpc that is I meant
15:28 < rxr> mnemoc: slept well?
15:29 < mnemoc> not really... my daughters are sick, and they don't let us sleep too much
15:30 < rxr> mnemoc: oh :-( What do they have ?
15:32 < mnemoc> both bronchitis and flu, and rafaella goes an alergic crisis again
15:32 < mnemoc> wow, 4 spam on one day :-) we are getting popular ;)
15:32 < rxr> mnemoc: that does not sound good
15:33 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - I do the mail server maintenance soon - maybe toda
15:33 < rxr> mnemoc: I wish I could help in some way
15:34 < mnemoc> if you can change the weather to eternal autumm it would be great :)
15:34 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm
15:35 < rxr> == 15:22:48 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [4.0.2 2.2.0-alpha].
15:35 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 2.31% (17 hits, 720 misses)
15:35 < rxr> == 10/19/05 15:33:27 =[0]=> Finished building package gcc.
15:35 < rxr> I try to do all the more difficult or nice-to-have task on the top of my T2 today until 2.2 ...
15:36 < rxr> mnemoc: are teddy tuxes good when your childs have alergics?
15:36 < mnemoc> no problem ;)
15:36 < rxr> mnemoc: or no house dust allery ?
15:37 < rxr> +r
15:37 < mnemoc> ack
15:37 < rxr> +g even
15:37 < rxr> mnemoc: ok
15:37 < rxr> I still think about getting a x86-64 board and placing my current athlon board in the package
15:37 < mnemoc> :D
15:38 < rxr> model name : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2500+
15:38 < rxr> cpu MHz : 1833.480
15:38 < mnemoc> sweet
15:38 < rxr> would that be of use?
15:38 < rxr> ok - guess that is a yes ... ,-)
15:38 < mnemoc> of course
15:39 < rxr> the only thing is that the on-board NIC got toasted in a thunderstorm when it was the exactcode.de server
15:39 < rxr> but it is running perfectly stable with a 3com NIC inserted ...
15:39 < rxr> I hope a toasted PHY of the NIC does not matter for you as it does not for me ?
15:40 < mnemoc> as far as it has slots to add another NIC, no problem :)
15:41 < rxr> ok
15:41 < rxr> so board, cpu, ram - a nic as well?
15:41 < rxr> no case and PSU I guess?
15:47 < mnemoc> ack :D
15:47 < rxr> good
15:48 * karasz slaps karasz with a cute little Gold Fish
15:51 < rxr> http://www.viaembedded.com/product/epia_dp_spec.jsp?motherboardId=321
15:51 < rxr> ^- cool ,-)
15:51 < mnemoc> rxr: comments about adding a text field to add all extra php options a $config may want?
15:52 < mnemoc> rxr: oh
15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: like --enable-xyz?
15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: for end users or targets ...
15:53 < mnemoc> rxr: --enable-gettext for example :\
15:53 < rxr> mnemoc: in general - yes I recently learned php is really dumb and need a lot of --enable-xyzs ...
15:54 < rxr> mnemoc: is there a drawback enabling gettext by default if available?
15:54 < rxr> e.g. susan hat to rebuild php about 8 times until it was read for use with typo3 and xt:comerce
15:54 < rxr> I would like to prevent that in the future and fill the .conf with more pkginstalled xyz && var_append extraconfopt ' ' '--enble-xyz's ...
15:54 < mnemoc> i guess not, but enabling everything will produce a very fat PHP
15:54 < rxr> but in addition a additional tweak text field is ok
15:55 < rxr> but prevent people from rebuilding it 8 times ..
15:55 < mnemoc> then, i'll commit the pkginstalled i have already there :p
15:55 < rxr> e.g. it is not even able to detect libjpeg by default and such
15:55 < rxr> mnemoc: add the text field for temp. extra tweaking
15:55 < rxr> but I think we should enable the reasonable stuff when build in a system containing those deps ...
15:55 < mnemoc> php is monolitic, it builds as minimalistic as it can to avoid bloat
15:56 < mnemoc> ok
15:56 < rxr> mnemoc: those devels should be hit to load the stuff on the dly ...
15:56 < rxr> fly even
15:56 < mnemoc> php lost it's path long time ago
15:56 < rxr> I find it very unreasonable to let people rebuild their php 8 times to get a typical use-case running ...
15:57 < mnemoc> it was designed to be a monolitic and fast perl scripting for web
15:57 < mnemoc> now it's an slow and fat cow
15:58 < rxr> good that you say that - /me making a mental note never to dive deeper into it then ,-)
15:59 < mnemoc> avoid php if you can
16:01 < mnemoc> rxr: apache 2.0.55 builds for you on trunk?
16:01 < rxr> I think so
16:01 < rxr> do you want to update in 2.1 or does it fail for you on trunk ?
16:02 < CIA-2> amery * r12691 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.conf: * improved php package to enable gettext support if it's available
16:02 < mnemoc> fail on 2.1
16:02 < rxr> you need to update apr* on the wy
16:02 < rxr> way for it
16:02 < mnemoc> modules/generators/.libs/mod_cgi.a(mod_cgi.o)(.text+0x5cc): In function `run_cgi_child':
16:02 < mnemoc> mod_cgi.c: undefined reference to `apr_procattr_addrspace_set'
16:02 < mnemoc> looks so :)
16:02 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
16:02 < rxr> is ti some apr unresolved dymbol?
16:02 < rxr> yep
16:03 < rxr> update apr* and it will work
16:03 < rxr> 0.9.6 -> 0.9.7 IIRC
16:03 < mnemoc> that goes against 2.1 policy :(
16:03 < mnemoc> damn apache
16:03 < mnemoc> damn apache
16:03 < mnemoc> damn apache
16:03 < rxr> well - only tiny changes it is not so bad
16:04 < rxr> I would vote for update it affects just a handful of apache related stuff ...
16:04 < rxr> subversion builds ...
16:04 < rxr> I think this is ok
16:04 < mnemoc> ok
16:12 < rxr> hm
16:13 < mnemoc> ?
16:13 < rxr> ccache thinkery
16:19 < rxr> hm - for an unkown reason my 0 cachery does not really work out right now :-(
16:55 < rxr> Error logs from default-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9vis-desktop:
16:55 < rxr> [5] base/glibc [5] xorg/xorg-server
16:55 < rxr> 972 builds total, 306 completed fine, 2 with errors.
16:57 < mnemoc> at noisy?
16:58 < rxr> nope - my slow 270Mhz UltraSPARC is crawling thru the build
16:58 < rxr> the 360Mhz Uni models are all instable ..
16:59 < rxr> I really don't understand why the stage0 builds do not cache
16:59 < rxr> mostly cache misses strage thing
16:59 * rxr continuing to analyze that ...
17:00 < mnemoc> nah, native
17:00 < mnemoc> ah*
17:02 < SerWou> good afternoon mnemoc and rxr
17:03 < rxr> welcome back SerWou
17:03 < mnemoc> moin SerWou
17:03 < SerWou> i'm on my own t2 now ;)
17:04 < mnemoc> congratulations :)
17:05 < SerWou> thanks
17:06 < SerWou> small config with around 300 packets, i called it : netstation : oriented for simple desktop end user / basic student needs and Internet / p2p
17:09 < mnemoc> nice
17:09 < mnemoc> netstation.t2-powered.net :D
17:09 < SerWou> ;)
17:10 < SerWou> since i started linux 18 months ago, i'm pretty proud to have it done, up and working, certainly not perfect, but i will come a day ;)
17:13 < mnemoc> netstation-0.1 ;)
17:16 < SerWou> at least, it works very fine
17:16 < SerWou> i used a basic pkgsel done by a good linux t2 user
17:17 < mnemoc> now you have to tune usability and pre-configured stuff
17:17 < SerWou> only problem, my mplayer stay with a blue screen
17:17 < mnemoc> package selection is just the first step
17:18 < SerWou> ok
17:19 < mnemoc> SerWou: are you based on 2.1 or trunk?
17:20 < SerWou> my mplayer seems to be able to read .mpg but when i press play nothing, no error, no playing, if i click in the middle of the progress bar aera, it display me images of the movie, but can't play it normally
17:20 < SerWou> 2.1-stable
17:21 < mnemoc> uhm
17:21 < CIA-2> amery * r12692 /branches/2.1/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
17:21 < CIA-2> * merged 12599 from trunk: updated apache (2.0.54 -> 2.0.55)
17:21 < CIA-2> * merged 12606 from trunk: updated apr (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7) - needed by apache
17:21 < CIA-2> * merged 12606 from trunk: updated apr-util (0.9.6 -> 0.9.7) - needed by apache
17:49 < CIA-2> amery * r12693 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/mplayer.desc: * updated mplayer (1.0pre7 -> 1.0pre7try2)
18:44 < CIA-2> aldas * r12694 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3)
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19:00 < CIA-2> rene * r12695 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
19:00 < CIA-2> * added a SYSCC wrapper to also allow transformation of system compiler runs
19:00 < CIA-2> in stage 0 - mostly intended for ccache utilization
19:00 < CIA-2> * adapted ccache/parse-config to utilize the new SYSCC wrapper
19:00 < CIA-2> * slightly cleaned and improfed efficency of ccache cleanup
19:00 < misl> hi folks
19:01 < rxr> hi misl
19:01 < rxr> misl: I just improved T2 to cache stage0 builds
19:02 < misl> rxr: :) great
19:02 < misl> How is noisy doing?
19:02 < rxr> I loaded your Opteron box the last days
19:02 < CIA-2> rene * r12696 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/libtool-options.patch: * improved our ccache tweaks to not hash more -M* flag cases
19:02 < rxr> I started a new regtest.sh build driver
19:03 < rxr> I lost my previous regression tester driver and postprocessing scripts due to too many server relocations
19:03 < misl> so now it start building on startup
19:03 < rxr> at some point those lingering scripts have not been backuped ... .-(
19:03 < rxr> misl: nope - I have not done that yet
19:03 < rxr> just manual start to get an overview
19:03 < rxr> about T2 cross build error list
19:03 < misl> make sure these scripts will not get lost this time ;)
19:04 < rxr> misl: how do you power the box down? immediate power loss or some software shutdown ?
19:04 < rxr> misl: ack
19:04 < misl> currently power loss
19:04 < rxr> we could test if acpi does suspend to RAM on your box and stop the fans spinning if so we might be able to suspend from linux and wakeup via RTC
19:04 < misl> maybe I should add a cron job to shut it down.
19:05 < rxr> though I fear such stuff is not implemented on server boards ...
19:05 < misl> RTC?
19:05 < rxr> root@noisy:/mnt/space/rene/t2-trunk# cat /sys/power/state
19:05 < rxr> standby mem disk
19:05 < rxr> misl: Real Time Clock
19:06 < misl> ahh
19:06 < rxr> misl: may I try suspending it?
19:06 < misl> sure
19:07 < misl> It's play time now. Merlyn wants some attention.
19:07 < misl> bbl
19:08 < rxr> hm - does nothing on attempt to suspend to ram :-(
19:26 < karasz> re hi
19:26 < karasz> hi rxr
19:32 < CIA-2> rene * r12697 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/k3b.desc: * updated k3b (0.12.4a -> 0.12.5)
19:34 < CIA-2> rene * r12698 /trunk/package/graphic/netpbm/netpbm.desc: * updated netpbm (10.29 -> 10.30)
19:37 < CIA-2> rene * r12699 /trunk/package/kde/k3b-i18n/k3b-i18n.desc: * updated k3b-i18n (0.12.4a -> 0.12.5)
19:48 < rxr> Baldzius: ocs might be easy to fix as well ,-)
19:49 < mnemoc> a?
19:56 < CIA-2> ragnar * r12700 /trunk/package/graphic/gle-graphics/gle-graphics.conf: * change lib to lib64 for x86-64
20:19 < Baldzius> rxr: ? :)
20:22 < CIA-2> rene * r12701 /trunk/package/graphic/gle-graphics/gle-graphics.conf: * fixed gle-graphics to use lib64 for all lib64 architectures and simplified it
20:22 < rxr> _Ragnar_: maybe you want to give that a try
20:23 < _Ragnar_> what?
20:23 < _Ragnar_> oh
20:28 < _Ragnar_> ok will do :)
20:30 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/ :D
20:31 < _Ragnar_> I can't build stable and trunk at the same time, not enough disk space
20:31 < mnemoc> ocs has been there since ... february? :p
20:33 < _Ragnar_> ok?
20:34 < _Ragnar_> maybe because nobody uses it? :)
20:34 < mnemoc> :)
20:35 < CIA-2> aldas * r12702 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/uic-issue.patch:
20:35 < CIA-2> * removed uic-issue.patch from k3b package - we don't need it
20:35 < CIA-2> anymore
21:25 < rxr> == 10/19/05 21:23:46 =[9]=> Finished building package sge.
21:25 < rxr> built at least here now
21:25 < CIA-2> rene * r12703 /trunk/package/network/sge/ (fix.patch sge.conf):
21:25 < CIA-2> * decustmained sge, forced detection of linux as arch (did not detect
21:25 < CIA-2> anything with latest glibc - worst arch switch I ever saw), removed
21:25 < CIA-2> -Werror (due to warnings on buggy code with gcc-4.0)
21:33 < rxr> 2089 builds total, 1896 completed fine, 190 with errors.
21:33 < rxr> still some to go
21:33 < rxr> n8 all
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21:50 < karasz> bye rxr
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23:06 < mnemoc> *yaaaaaaawn*
23:07 < owl> hi mnemoc ;)
23:07 < mnemoc> hi owl
23:15 < CIA-2> aldas * r12704 /trunk/package/themes/baghira/baghira.desc: * updated baghira (0.6e -> 0.7)
23:54 < CIA-2> aldas * r12705 /trunk/package/religion/bibletime/bibletime.desc: * updated bibletime (1.4.1 -> 1.5.2)
23:54 < CIA-2> amery * r12706 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
23:54 < CIA-2> * merged 9364,10034,11074,11305,11895,11967,12175,12518 from trunk: updated gnumeric (1.5.0 -> 1.6.0)
23:54 < CIA-2> * merged 10035,11071,12174,12517 from trunk: added goffice (0.1.0) - needed by gnumeric
23:54 < CIA-2> * merged 10033,11070,12144,12516 from trunk: updated libgsf (1.11.1 -> 1.13.2) - needed by gnumeric
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