T2 IRC Log: 2005-10-06
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--- Log opened Thu Oct 06 00:00:39 2005
00:06 < CIA-9> rene * r12299 /trunk/package/x11-modular/twm/twm-defaults.patch: * copied xorg/twm-defaults.patch to twm
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00:10 < keinek> hi
00:10 < morfoh> hi keinek
00:12 < rxr> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2141460/amd-steps-dual-core-turion
00:13 < rxr> ^- .oO
00:23 < rxr> n 8all
00:23 < CIA-9> rene * r12300 /trunk/package/base/cpufrequtils/ (. cpufrequtils.cache cpufrequtils.desc): * added cpufrequtils (0.3)
00:24 < morfoh> gn8 rxr ... sleep well
00:55 < CIA-9> chris * r12301 /trunk/package/network/bacula/bacula.conf:
00:55 < CIA-9> * removed an "/" from workingdir confopt to fix the autogenerated config file
00:55 < CIA-9> * moved openssl check to the other extraconfopts
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02:02 < keinek> live cd target dont work.
02:02 < keinek> linux26 in stage 1, never compile.
02:02 < keinek> :@
02:02 < mnemoc> non applying patch i suppose
02:03 < mnemoc> publish your regressions report
02:04 < keinek> i dont have web space for that
02:04 < keinek> ok, i have, but dont work fine.
02:49 < CIA-9> amery * r12302 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xmkmf/xmkmf.desc: * added missing cksum for xmkmf
02:49 < CIA-9> amery * r12303 /trunk/package/x11-modular/imake/imake.desc: * added missing cksum for imake
02:50 < CIA-9> amery * r12304 /trunk/package/x11-modular/cf/cf.desc: * added missing cksum for cf
02:50 < CIA-9> amery * r12305 /trunk/package/www/mozplugger/mozplugger.desc: * added missing cksum for mozplugger
02:52 < CIA-9> amery * r12306 /trunk/package/printing/cups-pdf/cups-pdf.desc: * added missing cksum for cups-pdf
02:52 < CIA-9> amery * r12307 /trunk/package/multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.desc: * added missing cksum for ffmpeg - this snapshot comes from an ftp, so it's checksumable
02:53 < CIA-9> amery * r12308 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * added missing cksum for exim
02:53 < CIA-9> amery * r12309 /trunk/package/java/commons-httpclient/commons-httpclient.desc: * added missing cksum for commons-httpclient
02:54 < mnemoc> # modprobe unionfs
02:54 < mnemoc> unionfs: Unknown symbol __stack_smash_handler
02:54 < mnemoc> unionfs: Unknown symbol __guard
02:54 < mnemoc> yuck yuck yuck
03:02 < CIA-9> amery * r12310 /trunk/package/ (9 files in 8 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at package/a*
03:03 < CIA-9> amery * r12311 /trunk/package/base/ (28 files in 21 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at package/b
03:04 < CIA-9> amery * r12312 /trunk/package/ (18 files in 12 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at package/c*
03:05 < CIA-9> amery * r12313 /trunk/package/ (15 files in 13 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at package/e*
03:06 < CIA-9> amery * r12314 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (9 files in 5 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at package/f*
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03:15 < CIA-9> amery * r12318 /trunk/package/lua/lua-posix/t2-ext-glob.patch: * fixed copyright notes at package/l*
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03:26 < CIA-9> amery * r12327 /trunk/package/zope/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at package/z*
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03:34 < CIA-9> amery * r12328 /trunk/target/bootdisk/arch/ (5 files in 3 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at target/bootdisk
03:37 < CIA-9> amery * r12329 /trunk/target/livecd/ (build.sh build_image.sh build_initrd.sh): * fixed copyright notes at target/livecd
03:39 < CIA-9> amery * r12330 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/ (benchmark.in minimal-desktop.in minimal-xorg.in minimal.in): * fixed copyright notes at target/generic
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06:30 < CIA-9> amery * r12331 /trunk/scripts/ (config-functions.in functions.in): * fixed copyright notes at scripts/
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09:05 < valentin> moin
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10:02 < SerWou> good morning
10:03 < SerWou> got a little question/recommandation
10:03 < SerWou> is there someone around ?
10:07 < valentin> me, but i am not shure if i can answer your question
10:08 < valentin> just go ahead
10:09 < SerWou> it's about when you emerge apache + php
10:09 < SerWou> look here : http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html step 9/10/11 must be done by hand after the install
10:10 < SerWou> i wonder if a new feature in ./script/Config -> Apache could be to make those 3 steps automaticly
10:10 < SerWou> what do you think ?
10:13 < valentin> By setting some global SDE variables that are evaluated in apache.conf ?
10:14 < SerWou> maybe, i don't know how to make it and even, i don't know if it's a good idea in the way of t2 spirit, but the idea of the global SDE variables seems to be a good idea
10:14 < valentin> another alternative would be a stone module for post-install configuration
10:15 < valentin> which seems more usefull for installation based tuning
10:15 < owl> moin
10:15 < valentin> moin owl
10:15 < SerWou> hello owl
10:15 < SerWou> yes, could be better in stone
10:16 < SerWou> well, that's all valentin, i just wanted to purpose this idea
10:17 < owl> hi valentin , SerWou
10:18 < SerWou> those 3 steps are quite simple to make i think
10:18 < valentin> however it would be usefull implement a default action for steps 9-11 so apache runs out of the box
10:19 < valentin> i.e. install those files through a post install hook in .conf
10:19 < SerWou> yes
10:19 < SerWou> should i send the idea by email to someone ? is there somewhere i can add in a todo list ?
10:19 < valentin> maybe to the mailinglist, so others can comment ?
10:20 < SerWou> ok
10:20 < valentin> you could add a request in trac.t2-project.org
10:23 < SerWou> configure mysql now, there is also a couple of step who can be done in a stone config module
10:24 < valentin> question is, howlong stone will survive beyond 2.2 series
10:24 < valentin> we wanted to replace config/packagemanagement stuff soon
10:25 < valentin> by a config backend that can be operated through both graphical and text based frontends
10:26 < SerWou> stone or this backend will have basically the same function i guess
10:27 < SerWou> if the idea is not made for stone, it can be done for the new config backend, no ?
10:28 < valentin> ?
10:28 < valentin> you can implement a stone module if you want
10:28 < valentin> i just wanted to "warn" you that there will be need to re-write it in some month
10:29 < SerWou> ha
10:29 < SerWou> don't worry about implementation and me, i don't anything in programmation ;)
10:29 < SerWou> i don't know*
10:34 < valentin> *breakfast*
11:10 < rxr> re
11:10 < rxr> damn - still a bit ill - grummel
11:10 * rxr breakfast soon too
11:17 < rxr> Gnome 2.12.1 Released
11:17 < rxr> ^- update anyone ?
11:18 < valentin> gnome ? wait for mnemoc hehe
11:19 < valentin> rxr: remember to eat much fruit and vegetables
11:19 < valentin> and don't do too much coffee
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11:19 < Baldzius> moin
11:19 < valentin> moin Baldzius
11:19 < Baldzius> moin valentin :)
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12:14 < rxr> gummel
12:14 < rxr> now breakfast
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12:55 < rxr> re
13:21 * rxr running the auto update over gnome2 ....
13:28 < CIA-9> rene * r12332 /trunk/package/multimedia/libcdio/libcdio.desc: * updated libcdio (0.74 -> 0.75)
13:46 < CIA-9> rene * r12333 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (24 files in 24 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated nautilus-cd-burner (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated libwnck (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated control-center (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated eel (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated gnome-system-monitor (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated gnome-themes (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> rene * r12334 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.8.3 -> 2.8.6)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12335 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.4.0 -> 2.4.1)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12336 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceview/gtksourceview.desc: * updated gtksourceview (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12337 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager.desc: * updated gnome-volume-manager (1.5.1 -> 1.5.2)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12338 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.3.7 -> 0.3.8)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12339 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-webcal/evolution-webcal.desc: * updated evolution-webcal (2.4.0.1 -> 2.4.1)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12340 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.4.1 -> 0.4.2)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12341 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * updated gnome-keyring (0.4.4 -> 0.4.5)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12342 /trunk/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * updated epiphany (1.8.0 -> 1.8.2)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12343 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * updated glib (2.8.1 -> 2.8.3)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12344 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.8.0.4 -> 2.8.0.5)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12345 /trunk/package/gnome2/gksu/gksu.desc: * updated gksu (1.2.6 -> 1.3.5)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12346 /trunk/package/gnome2/devilspie/devilspie.desc: * updated devilspie (0.10 -> 0.13)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12347 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-nettool/gnome-nettool.desc: * updated gnome-nettool (1.4.0 -> 1.4.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12348 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomecups/libgnomecups.desc: * updated libgnomecups (0.2.1 -> 0.2.2)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12349 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygtk/pygtk.desc: * updated pygtk (2.8.0 -> 2.8.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12350 /trunk/package/gnome2/pango/pango.desc: * updated pango (1.10.0 -> 1.10.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12351 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-mag/gnome-mag.desc: * updated gnome-mag (0.12.1 -> 0.12.2)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12352 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkhtml/gtkhtml.desc: * updated gtkhtml (3.8.0 -> 3.8.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12353 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnopernicus/gnopernicus.desc: * updated gnopernicus (0.11.6 -> 0.11.7)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12354 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.4.0 -> 1.4.1)
13:50 < CIA-9> rene * r12355 /trunk/package/gnome2/gksu/gksu.desc: * updated gksu (1.3.5 -> 1.2.6)
13:57 < CIA-9> chris * r12356 /branches/2.1/package/www/firefox/ (firefox.desc freetype.patch):
13:57 < CIA-9> * merged 12051: updated firefox (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
13:57 < CIA-9> * partially merged 11768: fixed firefox for new freetype (excluded gcc4 related patch)
14:46 < CIA-9> chris * r12357 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (2.5.4 -> 2.5.5)
15:06 < CIA-9> chris * r12358 /branches/2.1/package/mail/thunderbird/ (freetype.patch thunderbird.desc):
15:06 < CIA-9> * merged 12209: updated thunderbird (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
15:06 < CIA-9> * partially merged 11782: added a patch for current freetype (omited the gcc4 related patch)
15:38 < rxr> Xdailog is a dirty crap
15:41 < CIA-9> rene * r12359 /trunk/architecture/share/ (kernel-block.conf.m4 kernel-net.conf.m4):
15:41 < CIA-9> * enable MPT Fusion driver by default
15:41 < CIA-9> * do not built-in the e1000 driver, we want modules ...
15:52 < rxr> oops
15:52 < rxr> damn - rm -rf in the wrong window - and there went my kernel modules
15:52 < rxr> f*ck
15:52 < rxr> puh - at least not my running kernel
15:58 < CIA-9> rene * r12360 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
15:58 < CIA-9> * fixed archivista/install.sh to umount the system partition if the
15:58 < CIA-9> data partition mount fails and to pass progress data into Xdialog
15:58 < CIA-9> so that it does interpret the numbers correctly and not quit
15:58 < CIA-9> abnormally
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16:56 < mnemoc> moin!
16:57 < mnemoc> rxr: is it ok to use CC=$KCC on unionfs' postlinux.conf? without it i get SSP symbols on the module
17:00 < valentin> cu later
17:00 < rxr> yes - that is good
17:00 < rxr> cu valentin
17:01 * rxr untaring a linux kernel on a cifs mount ...
17:01 < rxr> new terrain for me ...
17:01 < rxr> strange windows file sharing crap ...
17:01 < rxr> does not make such a trustworthy impression to me ...
17:02 < rxr> the thruput is also not too high ...
17:02 < mnemoc> it's "strength" is on the very grained ACLs
17:03 < mnemoc> Posix ACL still 'wrx', they have lots more
17:04 < rxr> well - ok with one big file it gets 8MB over the network to my sub notebook ...
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: did you ever triy mounting windows shares with cifs instead of smbfs / smbmount ?
17:07 < mnemoc> nope
17:08 < rxr> works for me so far ...
17:08 < mnemoc> #samba recommends cifs
17:08 < rxr> I think it is more lightweight then the other - but only supports win nt and newer (or so - maybe win2k and newer) servers
17:08 < rxr> mnemoc: did you ask right now ?
17:08 < mnemoc> nope, i have heard
17:09 < mnemoc> samba is netbios/tcpip..... win95 doesn't support nbt, and win98 can only be client
17:09 < mnemoc> so 'only support win nt or newer' is expectable :)
17:10 < mnemoc> i have passed lot of time at #samba due to my 'plays' with samba/ldap/heimdal
17:14 < rxr> and - got it working ?
17:18 < mnemoc> sure ;) now i have to repeat it while trying to make it an almost out-of-the-box target
17:22 < rxr> cool
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17:25 < rxr> Google has confirmed that it will launch free spreadsheet and word-processing software online and take on Microsoft in one of its biggest markets.
17:25 < mnemoc> :D
17:25 < mnemoc> java vnc or ajax?
17:26 < rxr> no idea
17:26 * rxr not (yet?) working for google ...
17:26 < mnemoc> :D
17:26 < CIA-9> rene * r12361 /trunk/package/scientific/r/r.desc: * updated r (2.1.1 -> 2.2.0)
17:26 < CIA-9> amery * r12362 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/postlinux.conf: * fixed unionfs to use $KCC, fixing issue with SSP symbols at the module
17:27 < rxr> ouhm
17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: /me was commiting into unionfs as well
17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r12363 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/ (6 files): * updated unionfs (1.0.13-cvs -> 1.0.14-cvs) - linux 2.4 support sems to be removed
17:28 < rxr> one second and you would have had to resolve ,-)
17:30 < mnemoc> i don't plan to update unionfs before 2.1.0 :)
17:31 < mnemoc> config vs. update thing we talk yesterday
17:33 < CIA-9> amery * r12364 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/unionfs/postlinux.conf: * merged 12362 from trunk: fixed unionfs to use $KCC, fixing issue with SSP symbols on the module
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19:42 < _Ragnar_> == 10:31:17 =[5]=> Building x11/mesalib [6.3.2 2.2.0-alpha].
19:42 < _Ragnar_> !> The package build aborted with the following config error:
19:42 < _Ragnar_> !> mesalib: Unknown package category: x11/base
19:42 < _Ragnar_> hm hmmm :)
19:42 < rxr> oups
19:42 < mnemoc> we need to redefine categories
19:43 < mnemoc> current categories simply *sucks*
19:43 < _Ragnar_> :)
19:45 < _Ragnar_> oh did someone fix unionfs?
19:46 < mnemoc> why?
19:47 < _Ragnar_> cuz my svn up has some conflicts there
19:47 < mnemoc> two commits on trunk, and one at 2.1
19:47 < mnemoc> bad _Ragnar_ forgot to commit his changes
19:48 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - on cats ....
19:48 < _Ragnar_> no my changes didn't help
19:49 < rxr> _Ragnar_: will you fis mesa cat ?
19:49 < mnemoc> extra/tool :p
19:49 < valentin> re
19:49 < _Ragnar_> ?
19:50 < mnemoc> everything fit on extra/tool
19:51 < mnemoc> wb valentin
19:54 < valentin> hi mnemoc
19:55 < CIA-9> rene * r12365 /trunk/package/x11/mesalib/mesalib.desc: * fixed msalib Category tag
19:56 < CIA-9> rene * r12366 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xorg-server/xorg-server.conf: * untested attempt to build xorg-server with GL / GLX support
19:59 < _Ragnar_> o_o
19:59 * _Ragnar_ tests that
20:00 * rxr too
20:22 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12367 /trunk/package/archiver/lzma/lzma.conf: * get lzma to install docs to usr/share/docs
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20:22 < CIA-9> rene * r12368 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xorg-server/xorg-server.conf: * fixed xorg-server mesa support
20:22 < minto_> hi folks
20:22 < mnemoc> hi minto_
20:23 < mnemoc> rxr: x11-modular is for archivista?
20:24 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - it is for my personal fun
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20:24 < mnemoc> :)
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20:26 < _Ragnar_> grrr
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20:26 < mnemoc> ?
20:26 < rxr> but enabling the fusion driver today was for archivista ,-)
20:26 < mnemoc> :)
20:27 < rxr> (as well as the target/archivista commits, obviously ...)
20:27 < _Ragnar_> I was just about to commit to xorg-server/xorg-server.conf myself :)
20:27 < mnemoc> :p
20:28 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I leave soon - so you will have xorg-modular for yourself ,-)
20:28 < mnemoc> when will you return?
20:29 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm only around in berlin - not far away if you feared that ...
20:29 < _Ragnar_> :)
20:29 < mnemoc> :)
20:30 < _Ragnar_> where is mesalib installed to?
20:30 < rxr> _Ragnar_: it is not yet properly integarated
20:31 < rxr> in fact during xorg-server configure there is an error that symlink-mesa.sh (or so) is missing
20:31 < rxr> xorg-server wants a copy of the mesa source, that is why I extract it there
20:31 < _Ragnar_> hmm
20:31 < rxr> also mesalib need a postlinux hook to get the dri drivers built
20:32 < rxr> I'm not yet sure if mesalib should install s.th. itself when X builds its stuff itself ...
20:32 < _Ragnar_> just cuz it barfs if it finds some X11R6 header files
20:32 < rxr> _Ragnar_: hm
20:32 < _Ragnar_> the xorg-server
20:32 < rxr> I would focus to get xorg-server built with mesa - we see then what we should do with mesalib
20:33 < _Ragnar_> so mesa better not be in X11R6/include/lib
20:33 < rxr> for me it builds without --with-mesa-src (or what it was named) - but stops for a mesa build not finding GL/* headers
20:33 < rxr> obviously due to symlink-mesa.sh failure on configure time
20:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I do not know yet - I can tell you when I got xorg-server built with GL / GLX support ...
20:33 < rxr> but /me soon away
20:33 < rxr> have fun with it
20:33 < rxr> google is your friend ,-)
20:34 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12369 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xorg-server/xorg-server.conf: * modular xorg-server better not use header files and libs from X11R6
20:34 < rxr> though there is not yet much modular X info on it - most probably #t2 irc log ,-)
20:34 < _Ragnar_> yeah I know
20:35 < mnemoc> who logs the log?
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20:36 < minto_> :( stupid wireless connection
20:37 < rxr> mnemoc: I
20:38 < rxr> hi minto_
20:38 < minto_> hi rxr
20:39 < mnemoc> +CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y <--- objections?
20:39 < rxr> mnemoc: don't care aobut xattr
20:39 < rxr> cu
20:39 < mnemoc> wb volatile-minto
20:39 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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20:41 < minto_> mnemoc: good to be back
20:41 < minto_> :( but not for long
20:41 < morfoh> moin folks
20:41 < morfoh> hi minto_ :)
20:41 < minto_> hey morfoh :)
20:41 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12370 /trunk/package/x11-modular/ (13 files in 13 dirs): * prevent modular x11 font packages from calling mkfontdir/scale
20:41 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
20:41 < morfoh> minto_: hey mnemoc :)
20:41 < morfoh> oops
20:42 < minto_> morfoh: you did it again!
20:42 < morfoh> minto_: what ?
20:42 < mnemoc> he like to ping you
20:43 < minto_> morfoh: show up when I am about to leave :)
20:43 < morfoh> minto_: sorry .... for that, but hopefully this will change some time :)
20:43 < minto_> :)
20:44 < minto_> btw, I bought the summerhouse :D
20:44 < morfoh> minto_: today I tried to use noisy but I couldn't login anymore
20:44 < morfoh> minto_: nice :D
20:44 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12371 /trunk/package/network/ethereal/ethereal.conf: * add --with-ssl to ethereal
20:44 < mnemoc> .oO( wtf CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_SECURITY is? )o
20:45 < _Ragnar_> have security labels
20:45 < morfoh> minto_: I wanted to test some updated packages
20:45 < _Ragnar_> like for ext
20:45 < minto_> morfoh: Maybe mnemoc can help you to get access. noisy is still running (just checked it out)
20:46 < morfoh> minto_: btw, when we'll have a big "opening" party of your new house ? ;)
20:46 < morfoh> minto_: yes ... it was running but i couldn't login anymore ... I'll ask master mnemoc to place my key there to get rid of f
20:46 < morfoh> +fucking passphrases
20:47 < minto_> :) maybe when I have some money.
20:47 < morfoh> minto_: everything "burned" for buying the house :p
20:48 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12372 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * update vserver patch to match kernel version
20:48 < minto_> Maybe we can have some kind of t2 code camp (or something) there someday. There is room for at least 6 people to sleep.
20:49 < morfoh> minto_: yes ... that would be nice :)
20:49 < minto_> I will get back to that later. first I want to meet some of you in Berlin.
20:50 < minto_> Maybe after my current project is over.
20:50 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: we don't enable FS_SECURITY for any filesystem.... but XATTR and POSIX_ACL is enabled for all but reiser
20:51 < minto_> I gotta go now. cu all later (I hope tomorrow otherwise on saturday when I get back home)
20:51 < minto_> bye
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20:53 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: why not?
20:53 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i'm enabling XATTR and POSIX_ACL now
20:55 < mnemoc> == 14:50:00 =[5]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.11.12 2.1-stable].
20:55 < mnemoc> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled.
20:55 < mnemoc> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far.
20:55 < mnemoc> ^---- it was 68% 20 minutes ago!
20:59 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: on trunk XATTR and POSIX_ACL is disabled for all FSs :)
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21:24 < valentin> Moscow, Russia Europe
21:25 < valentin> ^---- sourceforge.net download mirror list (!!)
21:25 < CIA-9> amery * r12373 /branches/2.1/architecture/share/kernel-fs.conf.m4: * fixed linux to also enable XATTR and POSIX_ACL for REISERFS_FS, as it does for other filesystems
21:27 < _Ragnar_> why don't you commit that to trunk, too?
21:27 < mnemoc> [15:00:17] _Ragnar_: on trunk XATTR and POSIX_ACL is disabled for all FSs :)
21:28 < mnemoc> s/is/are/
21:28 < _Ragnar_> yes and I don't see a reason for that
21:28 < mnemoc> full modularity and 'desktop' focus of rene
21:28 < _Ragnar_> uhm
21:29 < _Ragnar_> why would a desktop not need them?
21:29 < mnemoc> i guess we should enable those via {attr,acl}/pkg_linux26_pre.conf
21:29 < _Ragnar_> I'd say a desktop _especially_ need those :p
21:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: good idea :)
21:30 < mnemoc> i'm using posix acl on my desktop mnemosyne-based target
21:31 < _Ragnar_> yea
21:31 < _Ragnar_> you gonna commit that? :)
21:31 < mnemoc> after office-desktop gets finished i'll make a 'safe home desktop', inside vserver self-contained with dansguardian, l7-filter and on-demand Dazuko/antivirus scanning
21:32 < mnemoc> direct but really controlled connection :p
21:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
21:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: but "caging" on a Office Desktop would be nice too :p
21:33 < mnemoc> Office Desktop will have office-wide 'cageing'
21:34 < mnemoc> and they simply don't have root access
21:34 < morfoh> ack
21:35 < mnemoc> my daughters somehow _will_ get root access, but they will be censored anyway
21:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: "big pappa" is watching her :p
21:37 < mnemoc> victoria (4y) without knowing to read learned my wife password :\
21:38 < mnemoc> humanist password, but a password at last
21:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: hehe ... do you wondering yourself ? it's the child of a geek :p
21:39 < mnemoc> :\
21:40 < mnemoc> firefox and thunderbird failed to build on my reference of 2.1:HEAD
21:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! ... what error ?
21:41 < morfoh> did you published the err log somewhere ?
21:42 < mnemoc> let me force a report re-generation
21:42 < morfoh> ok
21:50 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/
21:52 < _Ragnar_> *ggg*
21:52 < _Ragnar_> *grrr*
21:53 < _Ragnar_> why isn't there a way to resume a broken package build???
21:53 < mnemoc> it's doable making a jornal based on hook labels
21:54 < mnemoc> but not yet implemented
21:54 < mnemoc> you can ./debug.sh anyway ;)
21:54 < _Ragnar_> yes but that doesn't help me much
21:55 < _Ragnar_> see linux26 with > 2h to build/break
21:56 < mnemoc> well.... make ooo package wasn't peace of cake
21:56 < mnemoc> makeing
21:57 < mnemoc> making*
21:57 < _Ragnar_> yes but at least ooo doesn't break constantly with every update :p
21:57 < morfoh> .oO( I can remember the time while mnemoc was fixing ooo )o.
21:58 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: you can build modules only
21:58 < mnemoc> package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: if [ -z "$SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY" ] ; then
21:58 < _Ragnar_> huh? how does that help?
21:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll fix freetype issue on firebird and friends .... it was my fault :\
21:58 < mnemoc> morfoh: ack
21:59 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: it failed during modules builds doesn't it?
21:59 < morfoh> sorry ... I did a freetype update ... sorry :\
21:59 * mnemoc slaps morfoh
21:59 < _Ragnar_> yes with one of the half dozen broken additional kernel modules
22:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: but at least I know that it works ... :p
22:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: thank you
22:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: so you now only want to build only the modules
22:01 < _Ragnar_> no
22:01 < mnemoc> o.o
22:01 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: static kernel ?
22:02 < mnemoc> SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY only affect postlinux.conf packages
22:02 < _Ragnar_> that doesn't help ... I want to be able to see it break, then do a reconfig taking out the broken module, and continue from there
22:03 < mnemoc> export SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY=yes will skip linux26 build, and start building the postlinux packages. not perfect resume, but close
22:03 < _Ragnar_> how can it build the modules without the kernel?
22:04 < mnemoc> export SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY=yes; scrsipts/Build-Target
22:04 < mnemoc> the kernel is unpacked and configured, but not built
22:04 < _Ragnar_> ok will try that next time
22:05 < _Ragnar_> ah
22:05 < mnemoc> and flist is additive
22:05 < CIA-9> chris * r12374 /branches/2.1/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc: * merged 11344: updated freetype (2.1.7 -> 2.1.10)
22:05 < _Ragnar_> will it still build a complete *.gem?
22:05 < mnemoc> :@
22:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, the update will also fix some font problems
22:06 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: .gem is generated from builddir and flist, so yes
22:06 < _Ragnar_> ok
22:06 < mnemoc> morfoh: i don't know if i should hate you for this more than sciel status
22:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: hate me as much as you like
22:07 < mnemoc> if firefox/thunderbird need a newer freetype, firefox/thunderbird will _not_ get updated
22:08 < mnemoc> bye
22:08 < morfoh> cu
22:19 < _Ragnar_> rxr_: unionfs STILL fails
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00:06 < CIA-9> rene * r12299 /trunk/package/x11-modular/twm/twm-defaults.patch: * copied xorg/twm-defaults.patch to twm
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00:10 < keinek> hi
00:10 < morfoh> hi keinek
00:12 < rxr> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2141460/amd-steps-dual-core-turion
00:13 < rxr> ^- .oO
00:23 < rxr> n 8all
00:23 < CIA-9> rene * r12300 /trunk/package/base/cpufrequtils/ (. cpufrequtils.cache cpufrequtils.desc): * added cpufrequtils (0.3)
00:24 < morfoh> gn8 rxr ... sleep well
00:55 < CIA-9> chris * r12301 /trunk/package/network/bacula/bacula.conf:
00:55 < CIA-9> * removed an "/" from workingdir confopt to fix the autogenerated config file
00:55 < CIA-9> * moved openssl check to the other extraconfopts
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02:02 < keinek> live cd target dont work.
02:02 < keinek> linux26 in stage 1, never compile.
02:02 < keinek> :@
02:02 < mnemoc> non applying patch i suppose
02:03 < mnemoc> publish your regressions report
02:04 < keinek> i dont have web space for that
02:04 < keinek> ok, i have, but dont work fine.
02:49 < CIA-9> amery * r12302 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xmkmf/xmkmf.desc: * added missing cksum for xmkmf
02:49 < CIA-9> amery * r12303 /trunk/package/x11-modular/imake/imake.desc: * added missing cksum for imake
02:50 < CIA-9> amery * r12304 /trunk/package/x11-modular/cf/cf.desc: * added missing cksum for cf
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02:52 < CIA-9> amery * r12306 /trunk/package/printing/cups-pdf/cups-pdf.desc: * added missing cksum for cups-pdf
02:52 < CIA-9> amery * r12307 /trunk/package/multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.desc: * added missing cksum for ffmpeg - this snapshot comes from an ftp, so it's checksumable
02:53 < CIA-9> amery * r12308 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * added missing cksum for exim
02:53 < CIA-9> amery * r12309 /trunk/package/java/commons-httpclient/commons-httpclient.desc: * added missing cksum for commons-httpclient
02:54 < mnemoc> # modprobe unionfs
02:54 < mnemoc> unionfs: Unknown symbol __stack_smash_handler
02:54 < mnemoc> unionfs: Unknown symbol __guard
02:54 < mnemoc> yuck yuck yuck
03:02 < CIA-9> amery * r12310 /trunk/package/ (9 files in 8 dirs): * fixed copyright notes at package/a*
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09:05 < valentin> moin
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10:02 < SerWou> good morning
10:03 < SerWou> got a little question/recommandation
10:03 < SerWou> is there someone around ?
10:07 < valentin> me, but i am not shure if i can answer your question
10:08 < valentin> just go ahead
10:09 < SerWou> it's about when you emerge apache + php
10:09 < SerWou> look here : http://dan.drydog.com/apache2php.html step 9/10/11 must be done by hand after the install
10:10 < SerWou> i wonder if a new feature in ./script/Config -> Apache could be to make those 3 steps automaticly
10:10 < SerWou> what do you think ?
10:13 < valentin> By setting some global SDE variables that are evaluated in apache.conf ?
10:14 < SerWou> maybe, i don't know how to make it and even, i don't know if it's a good idea in the way of t2 spirit, but the idea of the global SDE variables seems to be a good idea
10:14 < valentin> another alternative would be a stone module for post-install configuration
10:15 < valentin> which seems more usefull for installation based tuning
10:15 < owl> moin
10:15 < valentin> moin owl
10:15 < SerWou> hello owl
10:15 < SerWou> yes, could be better in stone
10:16 < SerWou> well, that's all valentin, i just wanted to purpose this idea
10:17 < owl> hi valentin , SerWou
10:18 < SerWou> those 3 steps are quite simple to make i think
10:18 < valentin> however it would be usefull implement a default action for steps 9-11 so apache runs out of the box
10:19 < valentin> i.e. install those files through a post install hook in .conf
10:19 < SerWou> yes
10:19 < SerWou> should i send the idea by email to someone ? is there somewhere i can add in a todo list ?
10:19 < valentin> maybe to the mailinglist, so others can comment ?
10:20 < SerWou> ok
10:20 < valentin> you could add a request in trac.t2-project.org
10:23 < SerWou> configure mysql now, there is also a couple of step who can be done in a stone config module
10:24 < valentin> question is, howlong stone will survive beyond 2.2 series
10:24 < valentin> we wanted to replace config/packagemanagement stuff soon
10:25 < valentin> by a config backend that can be operated through both graphical and text based frontends
10:26 < SerWou> stone or this backend will have basically the same function i guess
10:27 < SerWou> if the idea is not made for stone, it can be done for the new config backend, no ?
10:28 < valentin> ?
10:28 < valentin> you can implement a stone module if you want
10:28 < valentin> i just wanted to "warn" you that there will be need to re-write it in some month
10:29 < SerWou> ha
10:29 < SerWou> don't worry about implementation and me, i don't anything in programmation ;)
10:29 < SerWou> i don't know*
10:34 < valentin> *breakfast*
11:10 < rxr> re
11:10 < rxr> damn - still a bit ill - grummel
11:10 * rxr breakfast soon too
11:17 < rxr> Gnome 2.12.1 Released
11:17 < rxr> ^- update anyone ?
11:18 < valentin> gnome ? wait for mnemoc hehe
11:19 < valentin> rxr: remember to eat much fruit and vegetables
11:19 < valentin> and don't do too much coffee
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11:19 < Baldzius> moin
11:19 < valentin> moin Baldzius
11:19 < Baldzius> moin valentin :)
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12:14 < rxr> gummel
12:14 < rxr> now breakfast
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12:55 < rxr> re
13:21 * rxr running the auto update over gnome2 ....
13:28 < CIA-9> rene * r12332 /trunk/package/multimedia/libcdio/libcdio.desc: * updated libcdio (0.74 -> 0.75)
13:46 < CIA-9> rene * r12333 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (24 files in 24 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated nautilus-cd-burner (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated libwnck (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated control-center (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated eel (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated gnome-system-monitor (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> * updated gnome-themes (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
13:46 < CIA-9> rene * r12334 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.8.3 -> 2.8.6)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12335 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.4.0 -> 2.4.1)
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13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12338 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.3.7 -> 0.3.8)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12339 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-webcal/evolution-webcal.desc: * updated evolution-webcal (2.4.0.1 -> 2.4.1)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12340 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.4.1 -> 0.4.2)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12341 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * updated gnome-keyring (0.4.4 -> 0.4.5)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12342 /trunk/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * updated epiphany (1.8.0 -> 1.8.2)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12343 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * updated glib (2.8.1 -> 2.8.3)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12344 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.8.0.4 -> 2.8.0.5)
13:48 < CIA-9> rene * r12345 /trunk/package/gnome2/gksu/gksu.desc: * updated gksu (1.2.6 -> 1.3.5)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12346 /trunk/package/gnome2/devilspie/devilspie.desc: * updated devilspie (0.10 -> 0.13)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12347 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-nettool/gnome-nettool.desc: * updated gnome-nettool (1.4.0 -> 1.4.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12348 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomecups/libgnomecups.desc: * updated libgnomecups (0.2.1 -> 0.2.2)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12349 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygtk/pygtk.desc: * updated pygtk (2.8.0 -> 2.8.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12350 /trunk/package/gnome2/pango/pango.desc: * updated pango (1.10.0 -> 1.10.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12351 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-mag/gnome-mag.desc: * updated gnome-mag (0.12.1 -> 0.12.2)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12352 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkhtml/gtkhtml.desc: * updated gtkhtml (3.8.0 -> 3.8.1)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12353 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnopernicus/gnopernicus.desc: * updated gnopernicus (0.11.6 -> 0.11.7)
13:49 < CIA-9> rene * r12354 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.4.0 -> 1.4.1)
13:50 < CIA-9> rene * r12355 /trunk/package/gnome2/gksu/gksu.desc: * updated gksu (1.3.5 -> 1.2.6)
13:57 < CIA-9> chris * r12356 /branches/2.1/package/www/firefox/ (firefox.desc freetype.patch):
13:57 < CIA-9> * merged 12051: updated firefox (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
13:57 < CIA-9> * partially merged 11768: fixed firefox for new freetype (excluded gcc4 related patch)
14:46 < CIA-9> chris * r12357 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (2.5.4 -> 2.5.5)
15:06 < CIA-9> chris * r12358 /branches/2.1/package/mail/thunderbird/ (freetype.patch thunderbird.desc):
15:06 < CIA-9> * merged 12209: updated thunderbird (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
15:06 < CIA-9> * partially merged 11782: added a patch for current freetype (omited the gcc4 related patch)
15:38 < rxr> Xdailog is a dirty crap
15:41 < CIA-9> rene * r12359 /trunk/architecture/share/ (kernel-block.conf.m4 kernel-net.conf.m4):
15:41 < CIA-9> * enable MPT Fusion driver by default
15:41 < CIA-9> * do not built-in the e1000 driver, we want modules ...
15:52 < rxr> oops
15:52 < rxr> damn - rm -rf in the wrong window - and there went my kernel modules
15:52 < rxr> f*ck
15:52 < rxr> puh - at least not my running kernel
15:58 < CIA-9> rene * r12360 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
15:58 < CIA-9> * fixed archivista/install.sh to umount the system partition if the
15:58 < CIA-9> data partition mount fails and to pass progress data into Xdialog
15:58 < CIA-9> so that it does interpret the numbers correctly and not quit
15:58 < CIA-9> abnormally
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16:56 < mnemoc> moin!
16:57 < mnemoc> rxr: is it ok to use CC=$KCC on unionfs' postlinux.conf? without it i get SSP symbols on the module
17:00 < valentin> cu later
17:00 < rxr> yes - that is good
17:00 < rxr> cu valentin
17:01 * rxr untaring a linux kernel on a cifs mount ...
17:01 < rxr> new terrain for me ...
17:01 < rxr> strange windows file sharing crap ...
17:01 < rxr> does not make such a trustworthy impression to me ...
17:02 < rxr> the thruput is also not too high ...
17:02 < mnemoc> it's "strength" is on the very grained ACLs
17:03 < mnemoc> Posix ACL still 'wrx', they have lots more
17:04 < rxr> well - ok with one big file it gets 8MB over the network to my sub notebook ...
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: did you ever triy mounting windows shares with cifs instead of smbfs / smbmount ?
17:07 < mnemoc> nope
17:08 < rxr> works for me so far ...
17:08 < mnemoc> #samba recommends cifs
17:08 < rxr> I think it is more lightweight then the other - but only supports win nt and newer (or so - maybe win2k and newer) servers
17:08 < rxr> mnemoc: did you ask right now ?
17:08 < mnemoc> nope, i have heard
17:09 < mnemoc> samba is netbios/tcpip..... win95 doesn't support nbt, and win98 can only be client
17:09 < mnemoc> so 'only support win nt or newer' is expectable :)
17:10 < mnemoc> i have passed lot of time at #samba due to my 'plays' with samba/ldap/heimdal
17:14 < rxr> and - got it working ?
17:18 < mnemoc> sure ;) now i have to repeat it while trying to make it an almost out-of-the-box target
17:22 < rxr> cool
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17:25 < rxr> Google has confirmed that it will launch free spreadsheet and word-processing software online and take on Microsoft in one of its biggest markets.
17:25 < mnemoc> :D
17:25 < mnemoc> java vnc or ajax?
17:26 < rxr> no idea
17:26 * rxr not (yet?) working for google ...
17:26 < mnemoc> :D
17:26 < CIA-9> rene * r12361 /trunk/package/scientific/r/r.desc: * updated r (2.1.1 -> 2.2.0)
17:26 < CIA-9> amery * r12362 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/postlinux.conf: * fixed unionfs to use $KCC, fixing issue with SSP symbols at the module
17:27 < rxr> ouhm
17:27 < rxr> mnemoc: /me was commiting into unionfs as well
17:28 < CIA-9> rene * r12363 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/ (6 files): * updated unionfs (1.0.13-cvs -> 1.0.14-cvs) - linux 2.4 support sems to be removed
17:28 < rxr> one second and you would have had to resolve ,-)
17:30 < mnemoc> i don't plan to update unionfs before 2.1.0 :)
17:31 < mnemoc> config vs. update thing we talk yesterday
17:33 < CIA-9> amery * r12364 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/unionfs/postlinux.conf: * merged 12362 from trunk: fixed unionfs to use $KCC, fixing issue with SSP symbols on the module
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19:42 < _Ragnar_> == 10:31:17 =[5]=> Building x11/mesalib [6.3.2 2.2.0-alpha].
19:42 < _Ragnar_> !> The package build aborted with the following config error:
19:42 < _Ragnar_> !> mesalib: Unknown package category: x11/base
19:42 < _Ragnar_> hm hmmm :)
19:42 < rxr> oups
19:42 < mnemoc> we need to redefine categories
19:43 < mnemoc> current categories simply *sucks*
19:43 < _Ragnar_> :)
19:45 < _Ragnar_> oh did someone fix unionfs?
19:46 < mnemoc> why?
19:47 < _Ragnar_> cuz my svn up has some conflicts there
19:47 < mnemoc> two commits on trunk, and one at 2.1
19:47 < mnemoc> bad _Ragnar_ forgot to commit his changes
19:48 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - on cats ....
19:48 < _Ragnar_> no my changes didn't help
19:49 < rxr> _Ragnar_: will you fis mesa cat ?
19:49 < mnemoc> extra/tool :p
19:49 < valentin> re
19:49 < _Ragnar_> ?
19:50 < mnemoc> everything fit on extra/tool
19:51 < mnemoc> wb valentin
19:54 < valentin> hi mnemoc
19:55 < CIA-9> rene * r12365 /trunk/package/x11/mesalib/mesalib.desc: * fixed msalib Category tag
19:56 < CIA-9> rene * r12366 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xorg-server/xorg-server.conf: * untested attempt to build xorg-server with GL / GLX support
19:59 < _Ragnar_> o_o
19:59 * _Ragnar_ tests that
20:00 * rxr too
20:22 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12367 /trunk/package/archiver/lzma/lzma.conf: * get lzma to install docs to usr/share/docs
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20:22 < CIA-9> rene * r12368 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xorg-server/xorg-server.conf: * fixed xorg-server mesa support
20:22 < minto_> hi folks
20:22 < mnemoc> hi minto_
20:23 < mnemoc> rxr: x11-modular is for archivista?
20:24 < rxr> mnemoc: nope - it is for my personal fun
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20:24 < mnemoc> :)
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20:26 < _Ragnar_> grrr
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20:26 < mnemoc> ?
20:26 < rxr> but enabling the fusion driver today was for archivista ,-)
20:26 < mnemoc> :)
20:27 < rxr> (as well as the target/archivista commits, obviously ...)
20:27 < _Ragnar_> I was just about to commit to xorg-server/xorg-server.conf myself :)
20:27 < mnemoc> :p
20:28 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I leave soon - so you will have xorg-modular for yourself ,-)
20:28 < mnemoc> when will you return?
20:29 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm only around in berlin - not far away if you feared that ...
20:29 < _Ragnar_> :)
20:29 < mnemoc> :)
20:30 < _Ragnar_> where is mesalib installed to?
20:30 < rxr> _Ragnar_: it is not yet properly integarated
20:31 < rxr> in fact during xorg-server configure there is an error that symlink-mesa.sh (or so) is missing
20:31 < rxr> xorg-server wants a copy of the mesa source, that is why I extract it there
20:31 < _Ragnar_> hmm
20:31 < rxr> also mesalib need a postlinux hook to get the dri drivers built
20:32 < rxr> I'm not yet sure if mesalib should install s.th. itself when X builds its stuff itself ...
20:32 < _Ragnar_> just cuz it barfs if it finds some X11R6 header files
20:32 < rxr> _Ragnar_: hm
20:32 < _Ragnar_> the xorg-server
20:32 < rxr> I would focus to get xorg-server built with mesa - we see then what we should do with mesalib
20:33 < _Ragnar_> so mesa better not be in X11R6/include/lib
20:33 < rxr> for me it builds without --with-mesa-src (or what it was named) - but stops for a mesa build not finding GL/* headers
20:33 < rxr> obviously due to symlink-mesa.sh failure on configure time
20:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I do not know yet - I can tell you when I got xorg-server built with GL / GLX support ...
20:33 < rxr> but /me soon away
20:33 < rxr> have fun with it
20:33 < rxr> google is your friend ,-)
20:34 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12369 /trunk/package/x11-modular/xorg-server/xorg-server.conf: * modular xorg-server better not use header files and libs from X11R6
20:34 < rxr> though there is not yet much modular X info on it - most probably #t2 irc log ,-)
20:34 < _Ragnar_> yeah I know
20:35 < mnemoc> who logs the log?
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20:36 < minto_> :( stupid wireless connection
20:37 < rxr> mnemoc: I
20:38 < rxr> hi minto_
20:38 < minto_> hi rxr
20:39 < mnemoc> +CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y <--- objections?
20:39 < rxr> mnemoc: don't care aobut xattr
20:39 < rxr> cu
20:39 < mnemoc> wb volatile-minto
20:39 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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20:41 < minto_> mnemoc: good to be back
20:41 < minto_> :( but not for long
20:41 < morfoh> moin folks
20:41 < morfoh> hi minto_ :)
20:41 < minto_> hey morfoh :)
20:41 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12370 /trunk/package/x11-modular/ (13 files in 13 dirs): * prevent modular x11 font packages from calling mkfontdir/scale
20:41 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
20:41 < morfoh> minto_: hey mnemoc :)
20:41 < morfoh> oops
20:42 < minto_> morfoh: you did it again!
20:42 < morfoh> minto_: what ?
20:42 < mnemoc> he like to ping you
20:43 < minto_> morfoh: show up when I am about to leave :)
20:43 < morfoh> minto_: sorry .... for that, but hopefully this will change some time :)
20:43 < minto_> :)
20:44 < minto_> btw, I bought the summerhouse :D
20:44 < morfoh> minto_: today I tried to use noisy but I couldn't login anymore
20:44 < morfoh> minto_: nice :D
20:44 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12371 /trunk/package/network/ethereal/ethereal.conf: * add --with-ssl to ethereal
20:44 < mnemoc> .oO( wtf CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_SECURITY is? )o
20:45 < _Ragnar_> have security labels
20:45 < morfoh> minto_: I wanted to test some updated packages
20:45 < _Ragnar_> like for ext
20:45 < minto_> morfoh: Maybe mnemoc can help you to get access. noisy is still running (just checked it out)
20:46 < morfoh> minto_: btw, when we'll have a big "opening" party of your new house ? ;)
20:46 < morfoh> minto_: yes ... it was running but i couldn't login anymore ... I'll ask master mnemoc to place my key there to get rid of f
20:46 < morfoh> +fucking passphrases
20:47 < minto_> :) maybe when I have some money.
20:47 < morfoh> minto_: everything "burned" for buying the house :p
20:48 < CIA-9> ragnar * r12372 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * update vserver patch to match kernel version
20:48 < minto_> Maybe we can have some kind of t2 code camp (or something) there someday. There is room for at least 6 people to sleep.
20:49 < morfoh> minto_: yes ... that would be nice :)
20:49 < minto_> I will get back to that later. first I want to meet some of you in Berlin.
20:50 < minto_> Maybe after my current project is over.
20:50 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: we don't enable FS_SECURITY for any filesystem.... but XATTR and POSIX_ACL is enabled for all but reiser
20:51 < minto_> I gotta go now. cu all later (I hope tomorrow otherwise on saturday when I get back home)
20:51 < minto_> bye
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20:53 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: why not?
20:53 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i'm enabling XATTR and POSIX_ACL now
20:55 < mnemoc> == 14:50:00 =[5]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.11.12 2.1-stable].
20:55 < mnemoc> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled.
20:55 < mnemoc> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far.
20:55 < mnemoc> ^---- it was 68% 20 minutes ago!
20:59 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: on trunk XATTR and POSIX_ACL is disabled for all FSs :)
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21:24 < valentin> Moscow, Russia Europe
21:25 < valentin> ^---- sourceforge.net download mirror list (!!)
21:25 < CIA-9> amery * r12373 /branches/2.1/architecture/share/kernel-fs.conf.m4: * fixed linux to also enable XATTR and POSIX_ACL for REISERFS_FS, as it does for other filesystems
21:27 < _Ragnar_> why don't you commit that to trunk, too?
21:27 < mnemoc> [15:00:17]
21:28 < mnemoc> s/is/are/
21:28 < _Ragnar_> yes and I don't see a reason for that
21:28 < mnemoc> full modularity and 'desktop' focus of rene
21:28 < _Ragnar_> uhm
21:29 < _Ragnar_> why would a desktop not need them?
21:29 < mnemoc> i guess we should enable those via {attr,acl}/pkg_linux26_pre.conf
21:29 < _Ragnar_> I'd say a desktop _especially_ need those :p
21:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: good idea :)
21:30 < mnemoc> i'm using posix acl on my desktop mnemosyne-based target
21:31 < _Ragnar_> yea
21:31 < _Ragnar_> you gonna commit that? :)
21:31 < mnemoc> after office-desktop gets finished i'll make a 'safe home desktop', inside vserver self-contained with dansguardian, l7-filter and on-demand Dazuko/antivirus scanning
21:32 < mnemoc> direct but really controlled connection :p
21:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
21:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: but "caging" on a Office Desktop would be nice too :p
21:33 < mnemoc> Office Desktop will have office-wide 'cageing'
21:34 < mnemoc> and they simply don't have root access
21:34 < morfoh> ack
21:35 < mnemoc> my daughters somehow _will_ get root access, but they will be censored anyway
21:36 < morfoh> mnemoc: "big pappa" is watching her :p
21:37 < mnemoc> victoria (4y) without knowing to read learned my wife password :\
21:38 < mnemoc> humanist password, but a password at last
21:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: hehe ... do you wondering yourself ? it's the child of a geek :p
21:39 < mnemoc> :\
21:40 < mnemoc> firefox and thunderbird failed to build on my reference of 2.1:HEAD
21:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! ... what error ?
21:41 < morfoh> did you published the err log somewhere ?
21:42 < mnemoc> let me force a report re-generation
21:42 < morfoh> ok
21:50 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/
21:52 < _Ragnar_> *ggg*
21:52 < _Ragnar_> *grrr*
21:53 < _Ragnar_> why isn't there a way to resume a broken package build???
21:53 < mnemoc> it's doable making a jornal based on hook labels
21:54 < mnemoc> but not yet implemented
21:54 < mnemoc> you can ./debug.sh anyway ;)
21:54 < _Ragnar_> yes but that doesn't help me much
21:55 < _Ragnar_> see linux26 with > 2h to build/break
21:56 < mnemoc> well.... make ooo package wasn't peace of cake
21:56 < mnemoc> makeing
21:57 < mnemoc> making*
21:57 < _Ragnar_> yes but at least ooo doesn't break constantly with every update :p
21:57 < morfoh> .oO( I can remember the time while mnemoc was fixing ooo )o.
21:58 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: you can build modules only
21:58 < mnemoc> package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: if [ -z "$SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY" ] ; then
21:58 < _Ragnar_> huh? how does that help?
21:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll fix freetype issue on firebird and friends .... it was my fault :\
21:58 < mnemoc> morfoh: ack
21:59 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: it failed during modules builds doesn't it?
21:59 < morfoh> sorry ... I did a freetype update ... sorry :\
21:59 * mnemoc slaps morfoh
21:59 < _Ragnar_> yes with one of the half dozen broken additional kernel modules
22:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: but at least I know that it works ... :p
22:00 < morfoh> mnemoc: thank you
22:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: so you now only want to build only the modules
22:01 < _Ragnar_> no
22:01 < mnemoc> o.o
22:01 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: static kernel ?
22:02 < mnemoc> SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY only affect postlinux.conf packages
22:02 < _Ragnar_> that doesn't help ... I want to be able to see it break, then do a reconfig taking out the broken module, and continue from there
22:03 < mnemoc> export SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY=yes will skip linux26 build, and start building the postlinux packages. not perfect resume, but close
22:03 < _Ragnar_> how can it build the modules without the kernel?
22:04 < mnemoc> export SDEDEBUG_LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY=yes; scrsipts/Build-Target
22:04 < mnemoc> the kernel is unpacked and configured, but not built
22:04 < _Ragnar_> ok will try that next time
22:05 < _Ragnar_> ah
22:05 < mnemoc> and flist is additive
22:05 < CIA-9> chris * r12374 /branches/2.1/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc: * merged 11344: updated freetype (2.1.7 -> 2.1.10)
22:05 < _Ragnar_> will it still build a complete *.gem?
22:05 < mnemoc> :@
22:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, the update will also fix some font problems
22:06 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: .gem is generated from builddir and flist, so yes
22:06 < _Ragnar_> ok
22:06 < mnemoc> morfoh: i don't know if i should hate you for this more than sciel status
22:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: hate me as much as you like
22:07 < mnemoc> if firefox/thunderbird need a newer freetype, firefox/thunderbird will _not_ get updated
22:08 < mnemoc> bye
22:08 < morfoh> cu
22:19 < _Ragnar_> rxr_: unionfs STILL fails
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