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00:12 < CIA-4> sebastian * r11456 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl/gcc4.patch: * fixed libsdl for gcc-4.0 - patch from Fedora Core
00:13 < Baldzius> libsdl fixed, that's nice :)
00:13 < sepp> :) 17 package errors to make my target work without error...
00:14 < sepp> left
00:14 < Baldzius> heh :)
00:30 < morfoh> hey my friend "nudossi sepp" is awake and fixing things :)
00:31 < sepp> hehe hello "currywurst morfoh" :)
00:31 < morfoh> ok guys ... I'll go sleep now. have to get up in about 5.5h 
00:32 < morfoh> sepp: hehe :)
00:32 < sepp> sleep well morfoh 
00:32 < morfoh> yeah sepp ... thanks ... sleep well too after you fixed you 17 issues :)
00:33 < morfoh> good night :)
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01:20 < sepp> good night all
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02:02 < mnemoc> re
02:06 < CIA-4> amery * r11457 /trunk/package/python/pyrexc/distutils-swig-hotfix.patch: * fixed pyrex to define the same distutils-swig API than python 2.4
02:22 < CIA-4> amery * r11458 /trunk/package/python/pyrexc/pyrexc.desc: * repriorized pyrexc before pytables
02:29 < CIA-4> amery * r11459 /branches/2.1/package/python/pyrexc/ (distutils-swig-hotfix.patch pyrexc.desc): * merged 11457,11458 from trunk: repriorized pyrexc before pytables, and fixed to define the same distutils-swig API than python 2.4
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02:32 < CIA-4> amery * r11460 /branches/2.1/package/develop/ (pynumarray/pynumarray.desc pytables/pytables.desc): 
02:32 < CIA-4> * merged 9229,10355 from trunk: updated pytables (0.9.1 -> 1.1)
02:32 < CIA-4> * merged 10354 from trunk: update pynumarray (1.1.1 -> 1.3.3)
02:38 < CIA-4> amery * r11461 /branches/2.1/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * merged 10436 from trunk: changed entrance,gdm and kdm postinstall scripts to not say ROCK
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04:36 < rxr> #re
04:39 < rxr> cu all
04:40 < rxr> mnemoc: I copied stable .err regressions on my notebook
04:40 < rxr> I take a look
04:40 < rxr> cu
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06:32 < morfoh> moin .... *YAWN*
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09:03 < morfoh> re hi
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09:27 < bfg> Hi, I'm not sure whether this is the right channel or not. But I will try. Does anyone know some general information sources about debugging interfaces? (of Microcontrollers and maybe ASIC's and similar chips)
09:27 < bfg> I only found some informations about JTAG and DBUG (Motorola), but I'm sure there must exist more and of course it would be nice to get some detailled informations. (maybe someone of you know a link or a book)
09:28 < bfg> oh sorry... worng channel :) (tabbs are sometimes a bit misleading)
09:28 < _Ragnar_> JTAG is de-facto standard afaik
09:29 < bfg> yes, it is standardized by the JTAG group (I think it's an IEEE group I'm not sure)
09:29 < bfg> but the DBUG Interface of Motorola is also very interesting despite it is proprietary
09:30 < bfg> on the other side, some papers about general hardware debugging (like specialized interfaces in ASICS or so) would also be interesting
09:47 < morfoh> moin bfg + _Ragnar_ 
09:51 < _Ragnar_> moin moin
09:52 < _Ragnar_> bfg: sorry no clue there :/
09:53 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: moin moin ... how are you and your little soekris toy ? ;)
09:54 < _Ragnar_> doing fine
09:54 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: :)
09:55 < _Ragnar_> =)
09:55 < _Ragnar_> morfoh: just need to get wpa working
09:55 < _Ragnar_> (in AP mode)
09:56 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: major problems ? or not tried yet ?
09:56 < _Ragnar_> not tried yet
09:56 < _Ragnar_> any idea how/what software I need?
09:56 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: btw, did you bought the mini pci encryption card too ?
09:58 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: what wlan card do you have ?
09:58 < _Ragnar_> atheros
09:58 < _Ragnar_> using madwifi
09:59 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: did you had a look on http://www.linux-wireless.org/Wireless/WPA/ ?
10:00 < _Ragnar_> they're talking about wpa_supplicant, but that's client only
10:00 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: but madwifi seems to be client only atm
10:01 < _Ragnar_> I dunno
10:01 < _Ragnar_> I think someone got that working with atheros
10:03 < _Ragnar_> http://hostap.epitest.fi/hostapd/ <-- that might be what I need
10:09 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: looks good after cross reading it
10:12 < _Ragnar_> yea just have to try
10:12 < _Ragnar_> and setup radius it seems o_O
10:15 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: dunno if you'll need a full featured radius server
10:16 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: but perhaps there is sth. like a "light" variant
10:16 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: authenticating against other backends
10:16 < _Ragnar_> hopefully O_O
10:17 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: but anyway, configuring radius can be a nightmare
10:17 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: perhaps I should commit the freeradius package, which is lingering around on my local working copy since some month
10:18 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: but it's far away from being perfect, regarding the support of multiple backends
10:19 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: I'll take a look what I can do regarding this issue
10:19 < _Ragnar_> ok:)
10:29 < valentin> moin
10:30 < valentin> had rxr been here tomorow ?
10:31 < valentin> haha
10:31 < valentin> not tomorow of course
10:31 < valentin> this morning :)
10:34 < Baldzius> :))))
10:34 < Baldzius> good morning people :)
10:35 < Baldzius> nice day for t2, again :)
10:44 < valentin> ok, so rxr was here between 4 and 5 in the morning
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12:03 < morfoh> moin valentin + Baldzius 
12:04 < morfoh> valentin: afaik rxr wasn't here in the morning
12:05 < morfoh> valentin: at least he didn't say a "moin" while I was here between 6:30 and 7:00
12:07 < valentin> morfoh: he was here from 4:37-4:40 german local time
12:08 < valentin> bbl
12:08 < morfoh> cu valentin 
12:09 < morfoh> ok ... I've to go too ... cu guys
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12:31 < jsaw> re
12:47 < valentin> re
12:47 < valentin> hi jsaw 
12:48 < valentin> Baldzius: what is -fetch-only ?
12:50 < Baldzius> this option downloads required packages when using Emerge-Pkg
12:50 < Baldzius> like Emerge-Pkg -fetch-only -deps=indirect k3b
12:51 < Baldzius> it just downloads
12:52 < Baldzius> i have slow link only 64Kb/s and i am leaving my computer at night runnig
12:52 < Baldzius> to download required packages
12:53 < Baldzius> if i had normal link i would sync all mirror
12:53 < Baldzius> or there is another way?
12:55 < jsaw> hi valentin ,Baldzius 
12:56 < Baldzius> hi jsaw 
13:02 < Baldzius> -fetch-only like -dry-run but it downloads pkgs
13:02 < Baldzius> i would say that
13:03 < Baldzius> maybe it's gentoolish :)
13:04 < Baldzius> but i would use it anyway
13:04 < Baldzius> but i will use it anyway :)
13:05 < Baldzius> mistake
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16:06 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
16:06 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug  9 23:45:30 2005]
16:06 [Users #t2]
16:06 [@vilkacis] [ CIA-4 ] [ nzg ] [ sepp    ] [ sparc-kly] 
16:06 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw  ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou  ] [ valentin ] 
16:06 [ Baldzius] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_] [ Shingo--] 
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16:06 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 21:15:33 2004
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16:51 < keinek> hi
18:23 < mnemoc> moin
18:23 < mnemoc> rxr gone?
19:40 < CIA-4> ragnar * r11462 /trunk/package/perl/perl-compress-zlib/perl-compress-zlib.conf: * perl-compress-zlib fix not needed any more
19:41 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: 11462 due to new perl or due to new perl-compress-zlib ?
19:42 < _Ragnar_> new perl-compress-zlib
19:42 < mnemoc> good
19:42 < _Ragnar_> at least my bf says so ;p
19:42 < mnemoc> bf? oh
19:43 < _Ragnar_> =)
19:43 < _Ragnar_> the driving force behind some of the 64 bit patches ;p
19:43 < mnemoc> ^_^
19:44 < mnemoc> irc-alergic?
19:44 < _Ragnar_> he? yea kinda
19:45 < mnemoc> you could ask for an svn account for him, but you promise to control him :)
19:46 < _Ragnar_> it's better when we don't cross-commit
19:46 < _Ragnar_> ;)
19:46 < mnemoc> :p
20:25 < valentin> re
20:26 < mnemoc> re valentin 
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20:46 < mnemoc> and two 18:58:33 penalties on idlerpg :(
20:46 < _Ragnar_> oops;)
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22:15 < morfoh> re
22:16 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 
22:16 < morfoh> thanks mnemoc :)
22:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think I'll be here just for a short time, but I'll be back in about 5-6h
22:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, I started a ref build on my laptop too but why do you use the generic target for doing the ref build ?
22:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: because 'reference' is a generic with .cache injection
22:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: and i don't want .cache injection
22:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: ic ... but why didn't you want to generate .cache files ?
22:24 < mnemoc> generate != inject
22:25 < mnemoc> i only inject .cache if the changes are 'significative'
22:25 < mnemoc> and i have an script for that
22:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... thanks for the explanation :)
22:26 < mnemoc> significative if [DEP] changes
22:26 < mnemoc> or [SIZE]
22:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: news on the other battle field?
22:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: and how do you detect if [DEP] has changed ?
22:27 < mnemoc> diff :)
22:28 < morfoh> mnemoc: regarding the other particular batltlefield: that's why I wanted to get up between 3-4am 
22:28 < mnemoc> tpday or tomorrow?
22:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm more effecient in the morning 
22:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: in 5h
22:29 < mnemoc> :)
22:29 < morfoh> :)
22:29 < mnemoc> and the third thing, when will you update and prepare your zope?
22:30 < mnemoc> is that a safe place or 'employeer dependant'?
22:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: and I've to prepare some papers for another "battlefield" tomorrow 
22:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: safe place
22:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: it's mine 
22:30 < mnemoc> good
22:30 < mnemoc> papers on plone please :)
22:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep ... I think I'll update zope/plone tomorrow too
22:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: I've tested some other plone sites that are running on that machine 
22:32 < morfoh> mnemoc: adn it looks quite good
22:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: we should really think about changing zope to install in $prefix/Zope-$ver
22:33 < mnemoc> uhm
22:34 < mnemoc> we need to wait for foo-% to do that properly
22:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: because it's safer to use it that way on productive machines
22:35 < mnemoc> zope 2.7 vs. 2.8?
22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: I know ... but I think there are some other packages too which have that problems
22:35 < mnemoc> or a third level?
22:35 < morfoh> mnemoc: for it doesn't matter
22:35 < morfoh> me
22:35 < mnemoc> we have zope as 2.x and zope3 for 3.x
22:36 < mnemoc> we also have to handle orphan files properly
22:36 < mnemoc> ok, go to sleep
22:36 < mnemoc> you need to be productive tomorrow
22:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes :)
22:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll add a ticket regarding the zope thingy 
22:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: that we can discuss the pros and cons properly ;)
22:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least to generate some more readable content ;)
22:39 < mnemoc> it's not just a zope issue
22:39 < mnemoc> versioned dirs also make lot of troubles
22:40 < mnemoc> perl updates are an example
22:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: ok ... I know. but I guess we all agree that we've to do sth. about it 
22:41 < mnemoc> yes, on t2-2.3 or 2.4
22:41 < mnemoc> i hope 2.3
22:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: and I just wanted to take Zope as a test case
22:41 < mnemoc> with foo-%
22:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: do we've sth- like a concept paper for foo-% ?
22:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: besides the threads on ML
22:44 < mnemoc> only the thread i guess
22:44 < mnemoc> and a previous thread
22:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: then we should create a more general ticket for that 
22:47 < mnemoc> you? :)
22:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: perhaps ... we ;)
22:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: or we just start to migrate the ML thread content to a Wiki page called "foo-% thoughts" ;)
22:49 < mnemoc> piano piano va lontano
22:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: not tomorrow :p
22:49 < mnemoc> :)
22:50 < mnemoc> [16:38:51] <mnemoc> ok, go to sleep
22:50 < mnemoc> [16:38:58] <mnemoc> you need to be productive tomorrow
22:50 < morfoh> 22:46 < mnemoc> piano piano va lontano
22:50  * mnemoc checking his ntp
22:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: yours is also wrong
22:57 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep
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