T2 IRC Log: 2005-08-30

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--- Log opened Tue Aug 30 00:00:25 2005
00:02 < Baldzius> hmm nothing suspicious
00:03 < Baldzius> oops
00:04 < Baldzius> -lhdb
00:04 < Baldzius> /usr/lib/gcc/i386-t2-linux-gnu/4.0.1/../../../../i386-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lhdb
00:04 < Baldzius> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
00:20 < mnemoc> GCC_WRAPPER?
00:33 < Baldzius> hm
00:34 < Baldzius> installed heimdal
00:34 < Baldzius> and everything works
00:34 < mnemoc> uhm
00:34 < mnemoc> heimdal should only affect packages if it's enabled
00:34 < Baldzius> hm
00:35 < Baldzius> where it should be enabled?
00:35 < Baldzius> config?
00:35 < mnemoc> config/*/packages
00:35 < mnemoc> starting with X, means enabled
00:35 < mnemoc> starting with O, means disabled
00:36 < Baldzius> yeah i know
00:36 < Baldzius> outh
00:36 < Baldzius> oops :)
00:36 < Baldzius> stupid me
00:36 < Baldzius> i did X * in pkgsel
00:38 < mnemoc> :)
00:38 < mnemoc> never do that
00:38 < mnemoc> many packages are O because they can't coexist with others
00:39 < Baldzius> i tried to avoid ticket #79
00:40 < Baldzius> i am working only with Emerge-Pkg
00:40 < mnemoc> the bug is that Emerge-Pkg _does_ install everything
00:41 < Baldzius> Emerge should not build unselected packages that (often) miss config options.
00:41 < Baldzius> that's the problem
00:41 < Baldzius> so i checked them all :)
00:42 < mnemoc> ehm
00:42 < mnemoc> you don't understand what rene wrote there
00:42 < Baldzius> really? :)
00:43 < mnemoc> really
00:43 < Baldzius> ok i will use desktop target as config
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01:33 < _Ragnar_> hmmmm
01:33 < _Ragnar_> when I do Emerge-Pkg linux27 and have vserver enabled in config, emerge doesn't download the vserver patch
01:33 < _Ragnar_> linux26*
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02:09 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: uhm
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05:03 < CIA-8> amery * r11391 /trunk/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * updated epiphany (1.6.4 -> 1.6.5) - marked as Stable
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06:13 < CIA-8> amery * r11392 /branches/2.1/package/base/device-mapper/device-mapper.desc: * merged 11056 from trunk: updated device-mapper (1.01.03 -> 1.01.04)
06:33 < CIA-8> amery * r11393 /branches/2.1/package/base/wget/wget.desc: * merged 11098 from trunk: updated wget (1.10 -> 1.10.1)
06:34 < CIA-8> amery * r11394 /branches/2.1/package/base/mtr/mtr.conf: * merged 11320 from trunk: fixed mtr configure for x86_64
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08:24 < morfoh> moin
08:28 < CIA-8> rene * r11395 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network.sh:
08:28 < CIA-8> * fixed archivista/network.sh to check configuration early, so it
08:28 < CIA-8> does not want a root password for this
08:29 < morfoh> moin rxr :)
08:39 < CIA-8> chris * r11396 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc13 -> 0.9.0-rc14)
08:40 < CIA-8> chris * r11397 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.0-rc12 -> 0.9.0-rc13)
08:55 < rxr> re
09:15 < morfoh> rxr: when did we ran the last ref build on trunk ?
09:21 < Shingo--> hi
09:21 < morfoh> hi Shingo--
09:23 < Shingo--> rxr: about svn update don't worry about that..
09:23 < Shingo--> you went a lot of problems, I think :)
09:23 < Shingo--> morfoh: hi, how do you do? :)
09:24 < morfoh> Shingo--: what kind of problems you're talking about ?
09:25 < morfoh> Shingo--: perhaps, this is the reason I'm talking to myself here
09:25 < Shingo--> well two cases.
09:25 < morfoh> Shingo--: but at the end I'm quite ok ... but this will change perhaps after knowing the 2 cases
09:26 < morfoh> Shingo--: besides the fact that my "rat" has cutted down all my network cables at home yesterday
09:26 < Shingo--> if server use BDB i had somes problems and I don't had that at all, but in my case only use this client are oks, but in server. :(
09:28 < Shingo--> but I talk to rxr no make any chance, my him had same problem, and I working on that. to gather infos to him. :)
09:28 < morfoh> Shingo--: uhm? what do you mean ?
09:28 < Shingo--> morfoh: do you have a "rat", like hamster?
09:30 < Shingo--> sorry, not "chance" but "change" . and "I had same problem"
09:30 < Shingo--> this make sense now?
09:30 < morfoh> Shingo--: I've a rabbit inherited by my ex-girlfriend
09:30 < morfoh> "inherited"
09:31 < morfoh> and yesterday he bited all my network cables and the power cable of my switch :/
09:31 < morfoh> dman rat
09:31 < morfoh> damn
09:33 < morfoh> and unfortunately I counldn't congratulate mnemoc yesterday due to the damn rat :/
09:34 < morfoh> Shingo--: but you haven't told me why I'm in trouble regarding the BDB thing ?
09:34 < morfoh> and if I count right it's "just" 1 case ;)
09:36 < morfoh> rxr: didn't we want to have linux26 linux-headers in "sync" ?
09:36 < morfoh> rxr: I know my last updates of linux-headers caused some problems
09:36 < morfoh> rxr: but I just want to know how the strategy is
09:37 < Shingo--> just a moment. :)
09:38 < rxr> morfoh: the strategy is, if someone feels to update and ref build - when problems are solved commit
09:38 < Shingo--> and a second case neon, but a think is more easy but subversion compile without http support, and some cases make me problems. :(
09:41 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... I haven't done a complete ref build while updating linux-headers
09:41 < morfoh> rxr: well ... sorry for that
09:46 < morfoh> rxr: I'll run a ref build for trunk on "monster" at work
09:52 * rxr too
09:52 < rxr> though right now there are many new errors due gcc-4
09:53 < rxr> 1767 builds total, 722 completed fine, 95 with errors.
09:53 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... I'll run a ref optimized for p4
09:54 < morfoh> rxr: how is a your small toy working ?
09:54 < valentin> moin
09:54 < morfoh> moin valentin
09:55 < rxr> morfoh: mostly good
09:55 < rxr> only X has some 64 bit issues
09:55 < rxr> I run the driver with NoColorTiling and NoAccel or so right now
09:55 < rxr> and sound support misses to enable the internal speakers
09:55 < rxr> wlan needs ndiswrapper
09:55 < rxr> all the other stuff including suspent to ram is working
09:56 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm ... doesn't sound that bad
09:56 < rxr> in 32bit mode X was working perfectly
09:56 < rxr> including Xv video overlay acceleration resulting in ~10% CPU load while wathcing full screen DVD @ 1280x800 ...
09:59 < rxr> most stuff builds find with gcc-4
09:59 < rxr> even kdebase ... ,-)
09:59 < morfoh> rxr: :)
09:59 < rxr> only the good olde unix style code to fix
10:00 < morfoh> rxr: and what is not building ? ;)
10:00 < rxr> all the toy crap stuff ... - with olde style code in it ...
10:00 < rxr> stuff like cdrdao ...
10:00 < rxr> or net-toos
10:00 < rxr> I start the big fixup round today
10:03 < rxr> hm - evas fails in inline assembler
10:04 < rxr> but that might be due binutils - not gcc ...
10:04 < morfoh> rxr: I tried an uodate of e17 some days ago too
10:04 < morfoh> it wasn't looking that bad
10:04 < rxr> even objc GNUStep stuff builds with gcc-4
10:04 < rxr> so there should not be too much to fix
10:05 < rxr> only those that frickle around - like lisp stuff, or stuff with old code writing extreme non-ANSI-C constructs ...
10:05 < rxr> like lvalue casts ...
10:05 < rxr> (that are verboten now)
10:16 < morfoh> brb
10:31 * valentin crossreading lua documentation
10:47 < valentin> i think lua is very poor on text manipulation and there is no facility to work on streams
10:47 < valentin> the first think is not too tragic since one can easily define a library of helper functions
10:48 < valentin> but the second one is realy a show stopper for using lua inside t2
10:52 < morfoh> valentin: what other alternatives are around ?
10:54 < CIA-8> rene * r11398 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (.fluxbox/menu network-status.sh): * added archivista/network-status.sh
10:56 < rxr> hi valentin !
11:03 < CIA-8> rene * r11399 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network.sh:
11:03 < CIA-8> * fixed archivista/network.sh for the reconfig case with root
11:03 < CIA-8> authentication
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11:12 < valentin> morfoh: i do not know yet. there are two that come into my mind:
11:13 < valentin> 1) hack up a big API for lua using C/C++ for extending lua functionality to do tasks like awk and sed and stuff (ie. registering lua implemented patterns and actions to be exectuted on a stream)
11:14 < valentin> 2) define an own script language that features functionality like bash/gawk/sed but is less bloated in syntax and semantics and works with bytecode for speed
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11:17 < rxr> 2 sounds like ExactScript ...
11:18 < rxr> not to mix with Ecma Script ... ,-)
11:19 < valentin> are the rockers about to work with clifford's SPL script language ?
11:19 < morfoh> rxr: I ever told you guys ... your company name is very well for deriving product names ;)
11:20 < morfoh> valentin: what is SPL standing for ?
11:20 < morfoh> "Suckers Programming Language" :p
11:21 < valentin> haha
11:21 < valentin> nope
11:21 < valentin> statefull programming languaege iirc
11:21 < valentin> language even
11:22 < valentin> then there is of course alternative 3: find another scripting language
11:29 < rxr> weee
11:29 < rxr> seee
11:29 < rxr> weee even
11:29 < rxr> sound working
11:29 < rxr> !!!
11:32 < rxr> so - the only thing left is to hack X.org/radeon 64bit safe and frickle around with this damned w-lan chip
11:32 < rxr> ndiswrapper for now, I think
11:32 < morfoh> rxr: so no "native" wlan driver yet
11:32 < rxr> nope - no native
11:35 < rxr> 0000:02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn] INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
11:36 < rxr> ^- damn cisco alike device they do not want to hand the specs out for ...
11:36 < rxr> valentin: the sound quality is mostly ok
11:37 < morfoh> rxr: do you know if it's an replacable mini pci card
11:37 < morfoh> rxr: or soldered on board
11:37 < rxr> on the level of the iBook - few noise on the headphone jack when the level is @ 100%
11:37 < rxr> morfoh: I think soldered
12:04 < valentin> another thing that sucks in lua: you have no real containers
12:04 < valentin> you can abuse tables as a sort of array...
12:08 < morfoh> ok ... guys. I'll leave you alone with your pain. moving home now. but before I have to buy some new long network cables ... damn "rat" :\
12:10 < rxr> pain ?
12:10 < rxr> valentin: ok - so atleat we agree - lua does not seem to be the best solution
12:11 < rxr> valentin: what do you propose ?
12:11 < rxr> there are more script languages
12:11 < morfoh> rxr: pain <--- just joking ;)
12:11 < rxr> smal land one other
12:11 < rxr> morfoh: yeah - was a rethoric question
12:11 < rxr> valentin: small and squirl
12:11 < morfoh> rxr: ok ... :)
12:11 < morfoh> cu guys
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12:16 < CIA-8> rene * r11400 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: * hardened archivista/install.sh
12:23 < CIA-8> rene * r11401 /trunk/target/archivista/build_initrd.sh: * added date to archivista LiveCD grub menu entries
12:28 < CIA-8> rene * r11402 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/X11/ (. xorg.conf.template): * diabled ZAP (Cntrl-Alt-BS) for the archivista target
12:28 < valentin> small and squirl ?
12:29 < rxr> scripting languages
12:29 < rxr> valentin: arn't you in AH today? or how comdes you have time for lua ?
12:30 < valentin> today is tuesday, isn't it ??
12:31 < valentin> rxr: i only took a short look (15 minutes) on lua :)
12:31 < valentin> crossread the whole reference
12:36 < rxr> ah - ok
12:36 * rxr off
12:36 < valentin> cu
12:36 < rxr> not off of computer - but off of date ...
12:36 < valentin> ?
12:36 < valentin> aha
12:38 < rxr> but soon much as well
12:38 < rxr> valentin: what do you propose regarding scripting
12:38 < rxr> maybe you wanna look over small and squirrel as well
12:38 < valentin> first google hit on "small squirl" : http://www.northrup.org/photos/crap/Animals/nl-16.htm
12:38 < rxr> btw. we do not have a squirrel (or so) package yet
12:39 < valentin> rxr: i can take a look
12:39 < jsaw> re
12:39 < valentin> maybe i should crossread some docs and then write a survey to the ml covering pro's and cons ?
12:39 < valentin> hi jsaw
12:39 < jsaw> hi valentin
12:40 < valentin> did you read scrollback ?
12:41 * jsaw is working on 2)
12:41 < jsaw> ;)
12:42 < jsaw> but not because of t2, actually... I do because all mathematical/numerical languages I know suck...
12:42 < valentin> jsaw: try fortran 99 :)
12:42 < jsaw> valentin: but before complaining about streams in lua, better look for sth. on luaforge....
12:42 < valentin> you want a math script language ?
12:43 < jsaw> no, a multi-purpose, but with syntax that is easy to use with math...
12:45 < jsaw> and especially with a extremely tiny core...
12:45 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0508/40121.html
12:46 < jsaw> thtupido
12:46 < rxr> I hope one day all the big companies will die on "bancrott due patents" ... damn folks ...
12:47 * rxr lunch
12:52 < rxr> valentin: do you package the squirrel thing =?
12:52 < valentin> in case i find it a bit usefull, i'll do
12:53 < rxr> cool
12:53 * rxr to aldi getting s.th. for lunch
12:53 < rxr> btw. will be in south germany over the weekend
12:53 < rxr> Stutgart and the like
12:53 < rxr> +t
12:54 < jsaw> valentin: other question, why would awk/sed be needed?
12:54 < valentin> jsaw: i did not find ant
12:55 < valentin> jsaw: i did not find anything on luaforge.net
12:55 < valentin> jsaw: i do not want sed/awk
12:55 < jsaw> but?
12:55 < valentin> but i want a language that is able to process streams and transform text
12:55 < jsaw> ic.
12:56 < jsaw> but why for t2?
12:56 < valentin> something like bash:
12:56 < valentin> command | substitute | awk-actions depending on input
12:57 < valentin> jsaw: depends on where to use scripting in t2
12:57 < valentin> at least you have to call external commands everywhere
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12:57 < valentin> lua has a system call, but you cannot interact with those programs nor process their output
12:58 < jsaw> we can easily re-add popen call (it was removed due to incompat on different systems temporarily)
12:58 < jsaw> io.popen(command) ...
12:58 < jsaw> f.read(...)
12:58 < valentin> ok
12:58 < jsaw> etc..
12:58 < jsaw> next possibilty is the lposix library
12:58 < valentin> where is it ?
12:59 < valentin> http://luaforge.net/projects/lposix/
12:59 < jsaw> and do pipe+fork+exec etc
12:59 < jsaw> to have control over stderr also
12:59 < jsaw> simple string manipulation is done with string.find (pseudo regex)
12:59 < jsaw> or with the pcre library...
13:00 < jsaw> but you are right, lua is _not_ good for string processing
13:01 < valentin> jsaw: yes, it is quite a pain in the ?rse to do stream processing with basic commands
13:01 < jsaw> strings are immutable objects... (but I think bash does also hash every string...)
13:03 < jsaw> valentin: yeah, guess where the factor of 6 (in size) between perl and lua comes from..
13:03 < valentin> perl is bloated, too
13:04 < jsaw> Creative Zens Ship with Worms
13:04 < jsaw> :D
13:04 < jsaw> lol
13:05 < valentin> as i understand it, lua is a language designed to be embedded into C programms. what are the benefits of using it stand-alone ?
13:05 < jsaw> it's very small and fast. I tried fibonacci (recursive), about 3 times faster than python for example
13:06 < jsaw> pretty easy and straight forward language
13:06 < jsaw> object oriented if you want
13:18 < rxr> re
13:18 < rxr> Opera feiert Geburtstag und verschenkt seinen Webbrowser
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14:47 < CIA-8> rene * r11403 /trunk/package/graphic/libexif/gcc-4.0.patch: * fixed libexif for gcc-4.0
14:58 < CIA-8> rene * r11404 /trunk/package/develop/guile/gcc-4.0.patch: * fixed guile for gcc-4.0 - patch taken from Fedora Core
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15:22 < CIA-8> rene * r11405 /trunk/package/e17/evas/ (evas.desc gl_common-fix.patch): * updated evas (2005-03-29 -> 2005-08-29) - fixes compilation with gcc-4.0
15:25 < valentin> rxr: what license to take for zlib/libpng ?
15:25 < CIA-8> rene * r11406 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * updated xine-lib (1.0.2 -> 1.1.0) - fixes compilation with gcc-4.0
15:26 < rxr> OpenSource I think
15:26 < rxr> yep
15:26 < valentin> and why the heck our build scripts abort on unknown license ?
15:28 < rxr> ty?po ?
15:30 < valentin> yep
15:42 < valentin> guah - squirrel has no install target
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15:43 < Baldzius> moin :)
15:43 < valentin> and all the info files are in DOS format X(
15:43 < valentin> moin Baldzius
15:44 < Baldzius> moin valentin
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16:05 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
16:05 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
16:05 [Users #t2]
16:05 [@vilkacis] [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ]
16:05 [ [Kosh] ] [ CIA-8 ] [ menomc] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly|Univ]
16:05 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ SerWou] [ valentin ]
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16:23 < valentin> rxr: what are the variables for bindir and docdir ?
16:27 < rxr_> $bindir $docdir
16:27 < rxr_> install your-bin $root$bindir/
16:27 < valentin> $docdir points to ?
16:32 < rxr_> $prefix/share/doc or so
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16:33 < valentin> so i have to mkdir $root$docdir/squirrel ?
16:33 < valentin> off for a walk with janna and buying some food stuff now...
16:33 < valentin> bbl
16:36 < rxr> no
16:36 < rxr> ?
16:36 < rxr> of course it is automatically crated
16:36 < rxr> sorry - I was inaccurate
16:37 < rxr> just cp crap into $root$docdir/ and all is fine
16:37 < rxr> it points to /usr/doc/$pkg/ ...
16:37 < rxr> or share/doc
16:37 < rxr> whatever
16:37 < rxr> just throw it into that dir
16:43 < CIA-8> jsaw * r11407 /trunk/package/base/gmp/gmp.conf: * build C++ interface for gmp also
16:47 < menomc> moin
16:48 < menomc> jsaw: thesis?
16:49 < rxr> moin menomc
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16:50 < mnemoc> moin rxr
16:58 < CIA-8> amery * r11408 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.conf: * merged 11151 from trunk: fixed evolution to find openldap in lib64 for x86_64
17:03 < mnemoc> where is morfoh?!
17:06 < rxr> most probably having fun ,-)
17:06 < mnemoc> :'(
17:07 < mnemoc> brb
18:01 < rxr> valentin: could you test the AvisionDS HEAD code on the 610 this evening / night ?
18:07 < rxr> emrh
18:07 < rxr> next bux in OS suX ...
18:07 < rxr> the w-lan display is off tough the network is active ...
18:07 < rxr> the icon I mean - it is gray and no wifi cell selected, tough I'm online ...
18:07 < rxr> damn thing ...
18:14 < rxr> mnemoc: though there is quite some stuff that needs gcc-4.0 fixing, the overall picture does not look too bad
18:14 < rxr> the important stuff, including kde builds just fine
18:17 < rxr> http://www.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html
18:19 < rxr> ^- The State of Linux Graphics
18:35 < valentin> re
18:43 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
18:43 < mnemoc> re valentin
18:46 < valentin> hi mnemoc, hope you had a good night
18:46 < mnemoc> :)
18:47 < mnemoc> yes, and you?
18:47 < valentin> quite good
18:47 < valentin> we have some de-bubbler for janna's stomach now
18:48 < valentin> so she can sleep in the night
18:48 < mnemoc> the whole night??
18:48 < valentin> no, but at least 4-5h
18:48 < mnemoc> good enough :)
18:49 < rxr> de what ?
18:50 < mnemoc> bubbler :)
18:51 < mnemoc> for colics i guess
18:51 < rxr> yeah - well - so far I can read
18:52 < rxr> I better continue watching my trunk gcc-4 ref build and debug my scanner driver ...
18:53 < mnemoc> what is more correct: 'modelling' or 'modeling'?
18:53 < rxr> oehm
18:53 < _Ragnar_> make a model
18:53 < _Ragnar_> verbing weirds language
18:54 < rxr> mnemoc: my dict knows both
18:54 < _Ragnar_> ;)
18:54 < rxr> ll == britsh - one l == us
18:54 < mnemoc> rxr: oficial?
18:54 < rxr> that is what my dict days ...
18:54 < valentin> mnemoc: yes, for her bubbles in the belly
18:55 < mnemoc> in spanish we use medical terms in common speaking
19:06 < CIA-8> rene * r11409 /trunk/package/audio/cdrdao/gcc-4.0.patch: * fixed cdrdao for gcc-4.0 - patch from Fedora Core
19:07 < CIA-8> rene * r11410 /trunk/package/x11/xosd/gcc-4.0.patch: * fixed xosd for gcc-4.0
19:15 < CIA-8> rene * r11411 /trunk/package/multimedia/xvid/xvid.conf:
19:15 < CIA-8> * rewrote avid.conf
19:15 < CIA-8> * fixed xvid for gcc-4.0 by overwriting whatever freaky but outdate
19:15 < CIA-8> optimization options the Makefile might contain
19:18 < mnemoc> a revision to merge _partially_ :(
19:19 < mnemoc> aaaarg... where is morfoh?!
19:19 < mnemoc> i need to know if reference with linux 2.6.11.12 add new regression before tagging rc3
19:19 < mnemoc> yuck yuck yuck
19:27 < rxr> mnemoc: merge the wohle xvid.conf if you meant that rev
19:28 < rxr> it will not hurt stable
19:29 < mnemoc> :)
19:37 < CIA-8> amery * r11412 /trunk/package/develop/bglibs/bglibs.desc: * updated bglibs (1.024 -> 1.027)
19:40 < CIA-8> rene * r11413 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (backup-setup.sh chpasswd.sh systempasswd.sh):
19:40 < CIA-8> * fixes one dialog size and prettified one sentence
19:40 < CIA-8> * removed one dead script in the archivista target
19:55 < CIA-8> rene * r11414 /trunk/package/gnome2/at-poke/: * removed at-poke, looks orphaned and does not build with gcc-4.0
19:55 < rxr> the mozilla suite stuff does not build with latest freetype :-(
19:56 < rxr> co -P -D 2005-08-29 e17/apps/e
19:56 < rxr> 58M downloaded from archive (download finished).
19:56 < rxr> ...
19:56 < mnemoc> rxr: when do you plan to redesign mozilla-family@t2?
19:56 < rxr> huge
19:56 < rxr> mnemoc: ohem - dum di du
19:56 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe after modular X or so ...
19:56 < rxr> it has not a too high priority fo rme ...
19:56 < rxr> for me
19:56 < rxr> higher are: modular X, new installer stuff for 2.2
19:56 < mnemoc> :(
19:56 < rxr> fixing gcc-4 related issues
19:56 < mnemoc> ack
19:56 < rxr> mnemoc: mozilla works
19:57 < rxr> mnemoc: using one gecko only potentionally breaks stuff and will cause a lot of headache for us, since noone else does, does someone?
19:57 < mnemoc> at least our mozilla-* packages are bigger that the officials
19:58 < rxr> that is most probably due to whatever other stuff (like headers and what not)
19:58 < mnemoc> but i guess it will be easier after foo-%
19:58 < rxr> I have no seen a shared gecko package yet
19:58 < mnemoc> neither do i
19:58 * rxr updating e17/* ...
19:59 * rxr off to get some food into the house
20:00 < mnemoc> rxr: can you push e17 .tbz2 files to mirrors before commiting so i'm sure to get the same tarballs?
20:08 < valentin> rxr: you left 19:59... good luck
20:09 < mnemoc> ?
20:35 < rxr> re
20:36 < rxr> valentin: the lidel here is oen til 21:00 ...
20:37 < mnemoc> supermarkets here are open until 22:00 and 23:00 on weekends
20:37 < rxr> mnemoc: I know - your country is wonderful - not as this regulated germany stuff ... - we had this topic ...
20:38 < mnemoc> my country is not wonderfull
20:38 < mnemoc> being at office from 9am to 8pm is not that nice
20:39 < Baldzius> hm without break?
20:39 < mnemoc> 2h
20:39 < rxr> how is that different from here? ,-)
20:41 < mnemoc> actually i work more that the official 45h+4h per week... but... with t2 on 60% of my brain ;)
20:41 < mnemoc> 70%? .oO
20:42 < Baldzius> :))
20:45 < valentin> re
20:46 < mnemoc> how many hours/week can you work for one employer there?
20:47 < rxr> can, want or must?
20:48 < mnemoc> can and must
20:49 < CIA-8> rene * r11415 /trunk/package/develop/electricfence/electricfence.desc: * updated electricfence (2.4.13 -> 2.4.16)
20:58 < valentin> rxr: i want to go there on sun, 2005-09-18: http://www.motorsporttickets.de/dtm/zeitplan_eurospeedway2.htm
20:58 < valentin> perhaps my last chance to see heinz harald live
20:58 < rxr> ?
21:01 < rxr> hm - damn
21:01 < valentin> rxr: whp frenzen's team will be no more next year
21:01 < rxr> most stuff bulds - but enlightemnet stuff including fam.h and over the limit.h ha strange "nested too deep" on include_next behavior ...
21:02 < rxr> grummel
21:02 < valentin> hm
21:03 < valentin> grummel, my squirrel still fails due to some typo...
21:03 < valentin> hope it was the last one this time
21:04 < valentin> rxr: X or O ?
21:11 < rxr> everytihng that does not conflict with s.th. else should be enabled by default
21:11 < CIA-8> rene * r11416 /trunk/package/e17/ (26 files in 23 dirs): (log message trimmed)
21:11 < CIA-8> * updated etox (2005-03-29 -> 2005-08-29)
21:11 < CIA-8> * updated epeg (2005-03-29 -> 2005-08-29)
21:11 < CIA-8> * updated efsd (2005-03-29 -> 2005-08-29)
21:11 < CIA-8> * updated e-utils (2005-03-29 -> 2005-08-29)
21:11 < CIA-8> * updated evidence (2005-03-29 -> 2005-08-29)
21:12 < CIA-8> * updated e (2005-03-29 -> 2005-08-29)
21:13 < rxr> 1767 builds total, 818 completed fine, 98 with errors.
21:13 < rxr> there is still quite some stuff to beat to work with gcc-4.0 ...
21:13 < rxr> though a lot are of course just packages failing due to deps missing
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21:17 < _Ragnar_> btw, if you use opera ... you can register for free today, and that way get rid of the ad banner
21:17 < mnemoc> who may want to use opera?
21:37 < CIA-8> valentin * r11417 /trunk/package/develop/squirrel/ (. squirrel.conf squirrel.desc): * added squirrel 2.0.4
21:45 < valentin> btw: we should patch scripts/cleanup not to complain about target/*/rootfs files !
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22:01 < sepp> hi
22:01 < mnemoc> hi sepp
22:02 < sepp> hi mnemoc
22:13 < CIA-8> sebastian * r11418 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/loop-aes_26.diff: * 2.6.13 update
22:26 < rxr> valentin: awake ?
22:43 < valentin> rxr: yes
22:44 < rxr> in archivista/home/install.sh
22:44 < rxr> can you see why hda4 should be heavily corrupted about 50% of the runs ...
22:46 < valentin> do they use format whole disk ?
22:46 < rxr> yes
22:47 < rxr> format whole disk
22:47 < rxr> and then hda4 is corrupted more often than it is intact
22:47 < rxr> even installing in a row on the same box ...
22:48 < valentin> hm, maybe the sfdisk has some bug ... or ext3 sucks. try reiserfs :)
22:48 < rxr> ...
22:48 < rxr> I now add:
22:48 < rxr> moutn with -o sync
22:49 < rxr> mount even
22:49 < valentin> just put reiserfs on that partition and don't tell them
22:49 < rxr> then only mount one partition at a time
22:49 < rxr> and then mke2fsck -f the ones after the install
22:49 < rxr> I really have no clue what the hardware is doing underneath
22:49 < rxr> according to the chief there - the fs was even ok before shutdown and not after reboot
22:50 < rxr> that would mean the HD is throwing cache away
22:50 < rxr> but they tested on several boxes with 4 disk vendors ...
22:51 < valentin> ouhm
22:51 < valentin> this should not happen. could be a kernel bug... let them try reiser, just to get an idea
22:54 < rxr> yeah - I also know this should not happen
22:54 < CIA-8> rene * r11419 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: * paranoized archivista/install.sh due to heavy filesystem corruption
22:58 < valentin> rxr: do you need me still ?
23:01 < CIA-8> sebastian * r11420 /trunk/package/graphic/openexr/gcc4.patch: * fix for gcc4 - gcc bug # 1016
23:03 < valentin> ok, gn8
23:04 < sepp> long night valentin ;)
23:04 < valentin> thx:)
23:04 < valentin> cu
23:11 < rxr> df
23:13 < mnemoc> rxr: about df.... do you get your /etc/mtab with lots of proc mounts?
23:17 < rxr> top
23:19 < rxr> mnemoc: yes - we talked about that already, do you remember?
23:19 * rxr needs sleeop
23:19 < rxr> cu
23:30 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm tending to forget many things these days :(
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