T2 IRC Log: 2005-08-18

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--- Log opened Thu Aug 18 00:00:00 2005
00:13 < CIA-9> amery * r11094 /branches/2.1/package/gnue/ (7 files in 6 dirs):
00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10164,10928,11005 from trunk: updated gnue-appserver (0.4.1 -> 0.4.2)
00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10165,10929,11003 from trunk: updated gnue-common (0.5.14 -> 0.6.0)
00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10167,10932,11008 from trunk: updated gnue-designer (0.5.6 -> 0.5.7)
00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10163,10191,10227,10927,11004 from trunk: updated gnue-forms (0.5.11 -> 0.5.12) and repriorized between gnue-common and gnue-*
00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10166,10930,11007 from trunk: updated gnue-navigator (0.0.8 -> 0.0.9)
00:13 < CIA-9> * merged 10190,10931,11006 from trunk: * updated gnue-reports (0.1.7 -> 0.1.8)
00:24 < CIA-9> amery * r11095 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/libgnome/libgnome.desc: * merged 10523 from trunk: updated libgnome (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1)
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00:26 < CIA-9> amery * r11096 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gail/gail.desc: * merged 9750 from trunk: updated gail (1.8.3 -> 1.8.4)
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01:29 < sparc-kly|univ> mnemoc:
01:39 < mnemoc> sparc-kly|univ:
01:41 < sparc-kly|univ> http://iso.rocklinux.de/default.php?dir=/unofficial/fake/crystal/powerpc/ <-- this is newer version of RockLinux ?
01:42 < mnemoc> crystal is rock's multipurpose 1 cd official distribution
01:43 < mnemoc> i guess it's a good ISO, but i have never tried crystal
01:44 < mnemoc> but they are at r6297 and that iso claims to be built with 4986
01:45 < mnemoc> so, it's quite old
01:46 < valentin> hi mnemoc
01:46 < mnemoc> hi valentin
01:46 < valentin> do we have rc2 build isos ?
01:46 < mnemoc> yes
01:47 < mnemoc> on gsmp
01:47 < mnemoc> but only pmmx and p4
01:47 < mnemoc> morpho never uploaded athlon-{xp,mp}
01:48 < mnemoc> i noone build sparc or ppc
01:48 < mnemoc> athlon-xp isos are on bittorrent
01:49 < valentin> mnemoc: why is [V] optional for branch versions ?
01:49 < mnemoc> because branches don't always imply a different version
01:50 < mnemoc> they can be architectural branches of binary packages
01:50 < valentin> ok ic
01:51 < mnemoc> but it can be mandatory :)
01:51 < valentin> there is another sentence that i do not understand. the following: $desc_B would be used like /^($desc_B)$/ to see if the argument matches
01:51 < valentin> or not.
01:52 < mnemoc> [B] foo|bar --> /^(foo|bar)$/ && { branch=$thisbranch; break; }
01:53 < mnemoc> [X] is named $desc_X on Build-Pkg
01:53 < valentin> ok
01:54 < sparc-kly|univ> i need ppc and sparc build :(
01:54 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: make one! :)
01:54 < sparc-kly|univ> in what system ?
01:54 < mnemoc> sparc-kly|univ: on one of your sparcs :)
01:55 < sparc-kly|univ> i need one iso , my sparcs running gentoo . t2 dont run in gentoo .
01:56 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: we have solved lot of incompatibilities
01:57 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: start one and we finish that issue
01:57 < sparc-kly|univ> ok you Win
01:58 < sparc-kly|univ> i see you later . i go to my house now .
01:58 < mnemoc> valentin: but it's just a brainstorming.... do your suggestions and get a good solution :)
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02:00 < mnemoc> valentin: i impossed target inherence, i don't want to do the same for package multi-instance, we need discussion :)
02:18 < CIA-9> amery * r11097 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.postinstall: * merged 10435 from trunk: fixed gdm.postinstall to create the Sessions directory
02:22 < valentin> mnemoc: r11111 tonight ?
02:22 < valentin> well, without me, i need some sleep now
02:23 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
02:23 < _Ragnar_> .oO(what could I commit?)
02:23 < _Ragnar_> O_O
02:24 < mnemoc> i have lot of merges to do :)
02:24 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
02:24 < _Ragnar_> to trunk?
02:24 < _Ragnar_> oh no, 2.1 also counts ;)
02:25 < valentin> with the current patch flow there will be 22222 within a year. so you do not need to fight for that one
02:25 < _Ragnar_> ;D
02:25 < _Ragnar_> *lol* yea
02:29 < mnemoc> :)
02:30 < _Ragnar_> hook_add premake 3 'eval $MAKE depend' <-- do you have a clue why this is needed for openldap?
02:33 < mnemoc> make depend before make all on some contexts do links an prepare thing.... no idea if openldap really needs it
02:33 < mnemoc> does it fail?
02:33 < _Ragnar_> cuz it breaks both builds on uclibc and x86_64, tho I dunno why
02:36 < mnemoc> uhm
02:37 < _Ragnar_> btw: http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/ <--
02:37 < _Ragnar_> does that sound like a good thing to include?
02:38 < mnemoc> we have it
02:38 < mnemoc> from... 3 years ago?
02:38 < _Ragnar_> O_O oh?
02:39 < mnemoc> brb
02:39 < _Ragnar_> :D
02:39 * _Ragnar_ blushes
02:39 < mnemoc> :)
02:39 < mnemoc> brb
02:41 < valentin> gn8 all
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05:18 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
05:18 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
05:18 [Users #t2]
05:18 [@vilkacis ] [ CIA-9] [ keinek] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin]
05:18 [ _Lewellyn] [ dsoul] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ]
05:18 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw_] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly]
05:18 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
05:18 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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05:36 < rxr_> re
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08:31 < rxr> uClibc 0.9.28
08:31 < rxr> Xpdf 3.01
08:31 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
08:31 < mtr> moin
08:31 < rxr> GNU Wget 1.10.1
08:32 * rxr updating after breakfast ...
08:32 < rxr> cu
08:32 < mtr> uClibc patches need updates, i am currently working on them
08:33 < mtr> cu rxr
09:16 < rxr> re
09:29 < CIA-9> rene * r11098 /trunk/package/network/wget/wget.desc: * updated wget (1.10 -> 1.10.1)
09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r11099 /trunk/package/graphic/xpdf/ (4 files): * updated xpdf (3.00pl3 -> 3.01)
10:22 < CIA-9> rene * r11100 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.3.3 -> 0.4.0)
10:22 < CIA-9> rene * r11101 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (0.3.2 -> 0.3.4)
10:51 < rxr> my custom C code is about 15 times faster than imagemagick (for loading a jpeg, normalizing, threshold and saving as 1-bit tiff ...
10:51 < rxr> imagemagick needs 6.x seconds on my files - my custom code 0.2
10:54 < rxr> well - even nearly 26 times as fast ... even ... !!!
11:08 < rxr> valentin: maybe with ExactImage on the horizon it is time to rename gsmp to ExactSound ?
11:08 < Shingo--> moin
11:10 < Shingo--> I ahd send somes packages to ML, but the behaviour of ML is different from the last time.
11:10 < Shingo--> don't returned any mail to my email.
11:10 < rxr> Shingo--: then most probably none has replied to them yet
11:11 < rxr> I can take a look into your patches in some moments
11:11 < Shingo--> no problem, :)
11:12 < CIA-9> rene * r11102 /trunk/package/develop/diffstat/diffstat.desc: * updated diffstat (1.39 -> 1.40)
11:12 < Shingo--> I have some comments about gxine package.
11:12 < CIA-9> rene * r11103 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * updated commonc++ (1.3.15 -> 1.3.17)
11:13 < CIA-9> rene * r11104 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.2.3-5 -> 6.2.4-1)
11:13 < Shingo--> should I write here?
11:14 < Shingo--> well, I had made a .conf to gxine package but a I think, it's really not necessary I think.
11:15 < rxr> Shingo--: you can write here on on the list - whateer you prefer
11:15 < Shingo--> because, the start-up wizard maybe do the job, but I'm not sure.
11:16 < rxr> the list has the advantage to receive more people and that asycnchonously - to let people look into / respond when they have time ,-)
11:16 < Shingo--> all are documented. isn't?
11:16 < rxr> start up wizard ?
11:18 < Shingo--> the program gxine has a start up wizard to check the system and do some else things, I have to investitigate more about this. but initialy i think the .postinstall script would not be a problem.
11:20 < Shingo--> I had ask the question about .postinstall script but I don't remember what was anwsered.
11:20 < Shingo--> when .postinstall script run?
11:21 < rxr> currently only after CD installation
11:21 < rxr> but this needs to be improofed
11:23 < Shingo--> ok, this scripts are created in mind to run innumerous time?
11:23 < Shingo--> like when we run cron.run?
11:23 < rxr> well - in the past (like at ROCK times) we had no postinstall - only this cron daily ting
11:23 < Shingo--> that's not maybe the ideia?
11:24 < rxr> we factored them out (and ROCK as well in the meantime)
11:24 < rxr> we run them after CD installation and need some add on code to run them in certain cases when a package is build from source or installed as binary
11:24 < rxr> but (re)writing a real installer is on some todo ...
11:25 < Shingo--> oh yeah I see that.
11:25 < CIA-9> rene * r11105 /trunk/package/python/python/python.desc:
11:25 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:25 < CIA-9> * fixed python priority for postgres
11:26 < CIA-9> rene * r11106 /trunk/package/x11/libart_lgpl23/libart_lgpl23.desc:
11:26 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:26 < CIA-9> * fixed libart_lgpl23 priority for rrdtool
11:27 < Shingo--> rxr: do you work with environment music? if does, what your player?
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11:28 < morfoh> moin
11:28 < rxr> hi morfoh
11:28 < rxr> morfoh: do I have a trac loging ?
11:28 < morfoh> hi rxr
11:28 < rxr> -g
11:29 < rxr> Shingo--: you mean desktop music player? xmms - but I do not like it and writing a C++ code based state of the art player is planned inside the gsmp (ExactSound?) project - that has a tiny priority number due to T2 and associated work ...
11:29 < morfoh> rxr: afaik nope
11:30 < morfoh> rxr: send me a htpasswd SHA1 hash
11:30 < morfoh> rxr: anyway we should finish trac svn sync
11:30 < Shingo--> did you read about xmms2 project? what do you think?
11:30 < Shingo--> rxr: ?
11:31 < rxr> Shingo--: better don't ask ... ,-)
11:31 < Shingo--> can you send the url about gsmp, please?
11:34 < CIA-9> rene * r11107 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/ (emacs-pop.diff pkg_emacs_post.conf):
11:34 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis :
11:34 < CIA-9> * updated heimdal kerberos5 support for emacs
11:35 < Shingo--> well, I ask that question about player because the new package I have send. imms, it's a very cool plugin/project. but I don't no anything about the code from this project. but this package/code compiles smoothly in T2. :)
11:35 < Shingo--> I advice you to use this plugin with xmms. ;)
11:35 < Shingo--> if you don't know it of course. :)
11:36 < Shingo--> rxr:
11:48 < CIA-9> rene * r11108 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.desc: * updated xmame (0.97 -> 0.99)
11:51 < CIA-9> rene * r11109 /trunk/package/ (15 files in 15 dirs):
11:51 < CIA-9> * fixed all occurances of Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa and tweaked some
11:51 < CIA-9> .desc details on the way
12:06 < rxr> Shingo--: your gxine patch on the mailing list seems to be missing
12:07 < Shingo--> really? i'll check this.
12:10 * rxr off for lunch ingedients ...
12:14 < CIA-9> chris * r11110 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * upadted libprelude (0.9.0-rc11 -> 0.9.0-rc13)
12:14 < CIA-9> chris * r11111 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.0-rc10 -> 0.9.0-rc12)
12:15 < CIA-9> chris * r11112 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.0-rc7 -> 0.9.0-rc8)
12:19 < CIA-9> chris * r11113 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.0-rc9 -> 0.9.0-rc10)
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12:25 < Shingo--> rxr: well, a send the patch now.
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13:13 < morfoh> rxr: i want to update snort up to 2.4.0 and strangely don
13:13 < morfoh> 't find net/route.h
13:13 < morfoh> from glibc
13:14 < morfoh> it even fails if I try to build it manually
14:16 < rxr> morfoh: hm - no idea right now
14:16 < morfoh> rxr: the strange thing is that net/route.h is present ...
14:23 < morfoh> rxr: and the people on #snort gave me the advice to ask T2 people because it builds on FC :p
14:40 < rxr> morfoh: what do I need to reproduce ?
14:41 < rxr> mnemoc: awake ?
14:42 < morfoh> rxr: I just removed the old snort.conf and updated from 2.3.3 -> 2.4.0
14:42 < morfoh> rxr: the "new" snort.conf just injects the prefix
14:42 < morfoh> if [ $prefix_auto = 1 ] ; then
14:42 < morfoh> prefix=opt/snort
14:42 < morfoh> set_confopt
14:42 < morfoh> fi
14:42 < rxr> morfoh: my trac login does not seem to work
14:42 < rxr> maybe I just submit a new hash ...
14:43 < rxr> maybe I mistyped s.th. hours ago ...
14:43 < morfoh> rxr: try again
14:43 < morfoh> rxr: I restarted apache already
14:44 < rxr> ah - works
14:44 < rxr> now
14:44 < morfoh> good :)
14:44 < rxr> so I can submit the next issues as rene - and not as anonymous ...
14:44 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... thank you
14:47 < morfoh> rxr: can I force a package to build with dietlibc explicitely ?
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14:48 < rxr> flag it dietlibc and enable the build-with-dietlibc option in Config
14:49 < morfoh> ok
14:56 < menomc> moin
14:56 < morfoh> moin mnemonkey :p
14:56 < menomc> :)
14:57 < morfoh> menomc: how you doing today ?
14:57 < menomc> fine, and you? feeling better?
14:57 < morfoh> menomc: I guess it's cold
14:57 < menomc> yep
14:57 < morfoh> menomc: yep ... I feel better today but not cured yet
14:57 < menomc> 6°C acording to weatherchannel
14:57 < morfoh> menomc: but at work already
14:57 < menomc> :)
14:58 < morfoh> menomc: btw, we should really add dietlibc to vserver.ask
14:59 < morfoh> menomc: and forcing vserver to build against it
14:59 < morfoh> menomc: it fails here while build rc2 target for my laptop
14:59 < menomc> what?
15:00 < menomc> since when vserver doesn't build with glibc?
15:00 < morfoh> menomc: dunno
15:00 < menomc> uhm
15:01 < morfoh> menomc: but if you try to build it against glibc they print out an advice
15:01 < menomc> anyway, you can force vserver with dietlibc on vserver.conf checking if dietlibc is enabled
15:03 < rxr> menomc: !
15:03 < rxr> menomc: can you untypo your nick again ,-)
15:03 < menomc> rxr: !
15:03 < menomc> :)
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15:03 < morfoh> rxr: this chilean guy always tries to confuse us :p
15:20 < mnemoc> :)
15:21 < mnemoc> last svn snapshot irrsi honors $alternate_nick on reconnects instead of just appending '_'
15:24 < CIA-9> amery * r11114 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/epiphany/epiphany.desc: * merged 10230 from trunk: update epiphany (1.6.3 -> 1.6.4)
15:27 < morfoh> cu later guys
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16:07 < valentin> hi
16:08 < valentin> hi rxr, morfoh and menomc ,)
16:13 < mnemoc> hi valentin :)
16:13 < rxr> hey valentin !
16:15 < CIA-9> amery * r11115 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gtk-engines/gtk-engines.desc: * merged 10845 from trunk: updated gtk-engines (2.6.3 -> 2.6.4)
16:16 < CIA-9> amery * r11116 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring.desc: * merged 10510 from trunk: updated gnome-keyring (0.4.2 -> 0.4.3)
16:16 < CIA-9> rene * r11117 /trunk/package/gnome2/gxine/ (. gxine.cache gxine.desc): * added gxine (0.4.6)
16:17 < CIA-9> amery * r11118 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gtksourceview/gtksourceview.desc: * merged 10432 from trunk: update gtksourceview (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
16:19 < valentin> i just came home after a walk in the park with my daughter
16:19 < valentin> hey, who did the 11111 ?
16:21 < mnemoc> jeru
16:21 < mnemoc> Author: chris
16:21 < mnemoc> Date: 2005-08-18 12:14:56 +0200 (Thu, 18 Aug 2005)
16:21 < mnemoc> New Revision: 11111
16:21 < mnemoc> Log: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.0-rc10 -> 0.9.0-rc12)
16:24 < CIA-9> amery * r11119 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/gok/gok.desc: * merged 9744 from trunk: updated gok (1.0.3 -> 1.0.5)
16:24 < mnemoc> valentin: did she enjoy?
16:25 < valentin> she was dreaming in deep sleep as always
16:26 < mnemoc> :D
16:33 < CIA-9> amery * r11120 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * merged 10514 from trunk: updated totem (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
16:35 < rxr> did you want to phone today ?
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16:39 < valentin> rxr: not yet - i still investigate that issue
16:39 < rxr> ok
16:39 * rxr implementing a convulation matrix for my custom image code
16:39 < rxr> (for emulating a unsharp mask effect)
16:50 < valentin> rxr : i think i found the bug
16:51 < valentin> one pixmap is exactly 1 line to small, this causes the overflow. but it needs some more code reading for me to find out why that happens
16:52 < _Ragnar_> rxr: really ... we have to do something about Config trashing config files ;p
16:52 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ACK!
16:52 < rxr> you mean it is overwriting the files on-the-fly and does not like a coding bug or C^C, right?
16:52 < _Ragnar_> yes
16:53 < _Ragnar_> or just removing linux.cfg for example
16:58 < mtr> updating uClibc breaks Build-Target on chroot'ing after stage 1 :(
16:58 < rxr> ouhm
16:58 < mtr> attention, log file flood:
16:59 < mtr> -> Building tools.chroot/lib/fl_wrapper.so.
16:59 < mtr> -> Testing tools.chroot/lib/fl_wrapper.so.
16:59 < mtr> -> Creating tools.chroot/lib/parse-config.
16:59 < mtr> sed: -e expression #1, char 23: Memory exhausted
16:59 < mtr> -> Creating tools.chroot/lib/pkg_*_{pre,post}.conf
16:59 < mtr> sed: -e expression #1, char 6: Memory exhausted
16:59 < mtr> sed: -e expression #1, char 6: Memory exhausted
16:59 < rxr> hm - looks like the new version has some bug exposed by sed ...
17:00 < mtr> my guess is the fl_wrapper (again), something in the context of dynamic loading
17:00 < _Ragnar_> O_O
17:04 < mtr> should I commit the update anyway and break uClibc for now? (i cannot continue on this, going on vacation tomorrow) :)
17:05 < rxr> mtr: if you have done mroe than the update (that is e.g. rediffed one or the other patch) yep ,-)
17:06 < mtr> i have re-diffed two patches, disabled one obsolete, and have some other uclibc-specific pkg patches
17:08 < mtr> _Ragnar_: you're the uClibc [M], commit or !commit ?
17:08 < _Ragnar_> commit
17:08 < _Ragnar_> I'll look into it
17:16 < CIA-9> mtr * r11121 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.desc: * updated uclibc (0.9.27 -> 0.9.28)
17:20 < CIA-9> mtr * r11122 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/ (add_sinf_cosf.patch fix_shares_00dirtree.patch):
17:20 < CIA-9> * adapted uclibc fix-shares patch to 0.9.28
17:20 < CIA-9> * sinf/cosf are in libm now
17:23 < CIA-9> mtr * r11123 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/ (7 files): * fix/add some package patches for uClibc
17:27 < CIA-9> mtr * r11124 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/ (parse-config-9 uclibc.conf):
17:27 < CIA-9> * add ld.so.conf
17:27 < CIA-9> * add config hack for lzo, apr, apr-util
17:28 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
17:29 < _Ragnar_> maybe I should've commited that general configure config.sub patch
17:31 < CIA-9> mtr * r11125 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.00 -> 1.01)
17:35 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: do you still use my ugly config.sub magic fixing?
17:35 < _Ragnar_> well I made it more general
17:36 < mnemoc> good :)
17:37 < _Ragnar_> I now run uclibc_findall_fix_configsub for almost all packages with a wider set of files to patch
17:38 < _Ragnar_> maybe I should commit that O_O scared of breaking too many things tho
17:40 < mnemoc> if something gets broken, we fix it
17:41 < _Ragnar_> :D
17:45 < mnemoc> that's why was have an agile trunk and not a distributed system... like svk
17:46 * mnemoc tired
17:49 < bfg> hi, where can I send patches for knetconfig? there is a problem by installing the language files. if the directory ..../share/language//LC_MESSAGES does not exist the build filas
17:49 < bfg> filas -> fails
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17:51 < keinek> hi
17:52 < mnemoc> hi keinek
17:55 < mnemoc> rxr: Ticket #71 is for susan :)
18:04 < rxr> isn't it already removed in trunk ?
18:04 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - no - but try compile without ... ,-)
18:05 < mnemoc> most of the patch applied, i doubt they have fixed it officially
18:09 * mnemoc trying with hal50.patch removed
18:10 < rxr> mnemoc: oh :-(
18:10 < rxr> then I also doubt they fixed it in the meantime ...
18:10 < rxr> damn, slow gnome people ...
18:11 < mnemoc> they hanv't :\
18:12 < mnemoc> i guess they don't plan to support both APIs
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18:12 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
18:12 < morfoh> re hi
18:12 < mnemoc> morfoh: did you read about sedu and lamassu?
18:12 < morfoh> hi compañero :)
18:12 < morfoh> nope
18:13 < mnemoc> buen día camarada
18:17 < CIA-9> amery * r11126 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * improved mnemosyne's mnemosyne.pl to generate rules which set a valid default value and check if current value is also valid
18:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: what is sedu and lamassu ?
18:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: i have gave you the url three times :\
18:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery
18:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: oops ? when did you gave me the URL ?
18:21 < mnemoc> never mind
18:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think it was in your dreams :p
18:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: but it's nice anyway :D
18:23 < mnemoc> #t2.08-16.log.bz2:13:48:17 http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery <--- two new targets extending mnemosyne, sedu and lamassu :)
18:23 < morfoh> cool cool cool :)
18:23 < mnemoc> #t2.08-17.log.bz2:11:52:58 morfoh: http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery
18:23 < mnemoc> #t2.08-18.log:12:22:56 morfoh: http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery
18:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: ah! I didn't scrolled back yesterday .... sorry :)
18:24 < mnemoc> awaylog is a good feature of irc clients :)
18:25 < morfoh> mnemoc: thanks for the hint master mnemoc :)
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18:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: again ... looks very coooooool and I like your fantasy for naming targets :)
18:27 < mnemoc> i thought those names fit nice on those two targets
18:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack ... it fits very well
18:29 < mnemoc> for the other bunch of targets i can't find a good name :\
18:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: don't worry ... time will come
18:31 < mnemoc> i would like to get suggestions, comments, etc...
18:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep ... you'll get some
18:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: today I finished my new mnemosyne rc2 desktop ... and I think I'll try xfce
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18:32 < rxr> 2.1 ppc desktop also mostly finished
18:32 < morfoh> rxr: :)
18:32 < rxr> the bdb and kaffe related crap that hangs on ppc got disabled
18:32 < rxr> some fixes still to be made ...
18:32 < rxr> about 7 or 9 failed packages aside the disabled "crap" ...
18:32 < rxr> but right now I have other problems ...
18:32 < mnemoc> rxr: what about a minimal for 2.1.0-rc2?
18:33 < mnemoc> rxr: t2-related problems?
18:34 < rxr> no - OS suX getting on my nerves very badly
18:34 < mnemoc> :)
18:35 < rxr> this hobby wanna be thing some garage people in Cupertino started some years ago ...
18:35 < rxr> and like everything the USB stack is highly instable - even more so in 10.4 - and now I have angry customers on the phone wanting me to fix what once worked under 10.3 ...
18:37 < morfoh> rxr: redirect them to the garage people
18:37 < morfoh> rxr: ok ok ... this wasn't a very helpful statement
18:37 < morfoh> poor rxr
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18:48 < rxr> morfoh: yeah - that's live outside the t2 world ...
18:48 < mnemoc> :)
18:48 < rxr> the next time I'm wise enough to write the OS version in the contract and tell them - well - the contract is for 10.3 - for 10.4 you can hand extra money for debugging over ...
18:48 < mnemoc> we have to move the world into T2 paradise
18:48 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... poor live outside of t2 world :)
18:49 < rxr> the other problem is that my 5x5 convolution matrix for the other (more t2 related thing) does not work out right now ...
18:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: what versions of plone and linguaplone do you use on www3 ?
18:52 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
18:54 < mnemoc> morfoh: 2.1-rc2 + 0.8 ... over zope 2.8.1
19:07 < _Ragnar_> re
19:32 < morfoh> re
19:32 < morfoh> hi Ragnar
19:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: I thought they don't recommend 2.8.x
19:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: I mean, using zope 2.8.x with Plone
19:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: shouldn't we extend zope's install prefix with the version number ? what do you think ?
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20:17 < minto> moin
20:21 < rxr> int z = sumr > 255 ? 255 : sumr < 0 ? 0 : sumr;
20:21 < rxr> ...
20:21 < valentin> re
20:22 < valentin> morfoh, rxr: helicopter-otto wants windows-virus-allert-headquaters
20:22 < rxr> ?
20:22 < rxr> windows virus what?
20:22 < rxr> is that another barely working hobby OS some freaky people are using ?
20:25 < valentin> windows are the glas-filled holes in your wall
20:25 < rxr> yeah - I wonder what virus are meant then - I hope none eating glas now ...
20:26 < rxr> valentin: do you want to look on some matrix math and tell me what typo I manged to introduce in it ?
20:27 < valentin> ahm... where ?
20:27 < rxr> my exact image hackery ...
20:28 < rxr> but - well - you have other ugly stuff to debug already ..
20:28 < rxr> my 3x3 matrix code works
20:28 < valentin> what typo where ?
20:28 < rxr> I'll find the typo in the 5x5 one
20:29 < valentin> you hardcode formula without loops ?
20:37 < morfoh> hey valentin :)
20:37 < morfoh> what does uncle otto wants ?
20:38 < rxr> phoning
20:38 < rxr> valentin: no - i have loops
20:57 < rxr> hehe - much fun writing an highlight / indenting system able to track this:
20:57 < rxr> matrix_type divisor =
20:57 < rxr> #ifdef RIGHT
20:57 < rxr> 179;
20:57 < rxr> #else
20:57 < rxr> 1;
20:57 < rxr> #endfif
20:58 < _Ragnar_> O_O
20:58 < _Ragnar_> ?
20:58 < rxr> #endif of course ...
20:58 < rxr> but anyway ...
21:02 < mnemoc> morfoh: zope 2.8.1 is ok for plone 2.1
21:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: roger that ... non chief :p
21:08 < mnemoc> :)
21:08 < valentin> re
21:09 < valentin> master mnemoc, any idea how to calm down a nervous child ?
21:09 < mnemoc> in your case, i guess only milk and a new diper helps
21:11 < valentin> we try that for a while now, but she is to nervous to drink
21:11 < mnemoc> uhm
21:11 < mnemoc> mozart :)
21:11 < morfoh> .oO( if your child is crying ... just ask child master mnemoc )o :)
21:12 < mnemoc> after some hours mozart calms any child :)
21:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: I was on tour with a 2.5 years old boy with too much energy ... that was quite heavy ...
21:12 < mnemoc> nah
21:12 < mnemoc> you get used to it
21:13 < morfoh> mnemoc: you don't know what you're talking about ... you've girls :p
21:13 * morfoh hides
21:13 < mnemoc> :)
21:13 < mnemoc> ack, i prefer girls than boys :)
21:13 < morfoh> and the strange thing is ... if his mom is there he behaves completely different
21:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm glad to hear that you're prefering girls :)
21:15 * morfoh hides again
21:15 < mnemoc> :)
21:15 < valentin> morfoh: you are quite funny tonight :p
21:15 < mnemoc> i know you prefer boys
21:17 < morfoh> valentin: didn't you know ... I'm almost funny :p
21:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: pff ... go away
21:17 < morfoh> .oO( I already managed to build up my old wardrobe )o puuuuhhh
21:18 < morfoh> perhaps that's the reason why I'm so funny
21:20 < valentin> you should try OSX - that will funny you...
21:21 < rxr> - matrix_type v = data[x - matrix_w2 + x2, +
21:21 < rxr> + matrix_type v = data[x - matrix_w2 + x2 +
21:21 < rxr> my god
21:21 < rxr> do you want to know how much time this f*cking comma did cost me !!!!!
21:21 < mnemoc> :D
21:22 < rxr> real 0m1.904s
21:22 < rxr> user 0m1.775s
21:22 < rxr> damn - though the image is correct now - it is not too fast ...
21:23 < rxr> touch still magnitudes faster than imagemagick or gimp ...
21:24 < valentin> HHHEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPPP
21:24 < rxr> real 0m0.748s
21:24 < rxr> user 0m0.623s
21:24 < rxr> sys 0m0.048s
21:24 < valentin> ah - unplugging my usb mouse saved my
21:24 < valentin> me even
21:24 < rxr> cool - -O2 and -march=athlon did a trick ,-)
21:24 < jsaw_> re
21:24 < rxr> valentin: ?
21:24 < valentin> when you speak of the devil... OSX funnied me
21:25 < valentin> the mouse was in some unusable locked state
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21:25 < rxr> valentin: yes - I know that ...
21:25 < rxr> in OS X suddenly everything can freak out ..
21:25 < valentin> happens sometimes when you are in copy and paste mode
21:25 < rxr> I even saw a lot of rendering issues with this OpenGL alike GUI thing ...
21:25 < jsaw> did anybody start a fresh generic build? dietlibc didn't compile due to stack smashing handler...?
21:25 < valentin> hi jsaw
21:25 < jsaw> hi valentin
21:26 < valentin> janna starts complaining again
21:26 < jsaw> valentin: she's calm again?
21:26 < valentin> no
21:26 < jsaw> valentin: and carrying on her belly?
21:27 < jsaw> (sounds like acheing belly...what you described...)
21:27 < valentin> i tried that. did not help today
21:27 < jsaw> well, then just let her cry...
21:28 < valentin> i do not think she has some aching. she is just awake since 18:00 now
21:28 < valentin> and is in a bad mood
21:28 < valentin> but she does not want to sleep - eyes wide open
21:28 < jsaw> hehe
21:28 < jsaw> gimme input!
21:28 < jsaw> hehe
21:28 < valentin> yeah
21:29 < jsaw> so, anybody with a new generic build?
21:32 < mnemoc> 2.1 only
21:32 < jsaw> with ssp on?
21:33 < valentin> mnemoc: mozart didn't work out. i try rock music, seems to work :)
21:33 < jsaw> mnemoc: btw, so far I like your foo-% proposal, only the perl part... but I'll have to think a bit more about it
21:34 < jsaw> valentin: especially Marlene loves real heavy metal
21:34 < jsaw> :D
21:34 < valentin> yeah, preferably better than #ifdef-style pkgsplitings
21:34 < mnemoc> valentin: uhm danger valentin, danger
21:35 < valentin> janna likes sawing guitars, much bass, hard rythm and a voice that sounds like ten packs of cigarettes per day...
21:35 < mnemoc> jsaw: implementation is just a side efect :)
21:35 < mnemoc> valentin: in the future packages can decide to split if an argument is given.... gcc-splited :)
21:36 < mnemoc> valentin: european girls :(
21:36 < jsaw> :D
21:37 < jsaw> mnemoc: 2.1 with ssp on?
21:37 < valentin> mnemoc: i do not feed her satanic music yet. (ok, cardinal ratz would call that punk stuff satanic i guess...)
21:38 < mnemoc> jsaw: i thought ssp was default... what do you want me to try?
21:39 < jsaw> here (trunk) dietlibc failed on a fresh build, complaining that stack_smash_handler is defined multiple times (in libgcc.a as well as in dietlibc's libc)... I removed the conditional around _LIBC_DEFINES_SSP_ (or similiar) and restarted...
21:40 < jsaw> (in gcc.conf)
21:40 < rxr> SPP sucks ...
21:40 < rxr> we should not inject it for any build
21:40 < rxr> well - I might switch off now ...
21:40 < jsaw> ?
21:40 < jsaw> it is not working? or it makes too many problems?
21:41 < rxr> jsaw: too less releases and maintenenace
21:41 < valentin> radio wazee.com realy managed to put janna asleep
21:41 < rxr> and this on-and-off popping issues
21:41 < valentin> i can't believe it
21:41 < jsaw> valentin: tsts
21:41 < jsaw> rxr: ic
21:42 < rxr> ok - /me off - cu
21:42 < valentin> jsaw: her gandmom is a graduated musican, so what
21:42 < valentin> cu rxr
21:42 < jsaw> I'm leaving too...
21:42 < jsaw> valentin: great
21:43 < valentin> she studied catholic church music :)
21:43 < jsaw> cu later
21:43 < valentin> cu jsaw
21:44 < valentin> hm, next time i could try organ music by j.s.bach. Is that ok for you, mnemoc ?
21:44 < valentin> i prefer bach over mozart anyway
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22:00 < mnemoc> valentin: bach is good :)
22:00 < mnemoc> valentin: and if it clams jana much better
22:04 < valentin> yeah - fixed another OSX bug...
22:05 < valentin> ok, this one was my bug
22:06 < valentin> i will reboot now, cu in some minutes
22:06 < mnemoc> cu valentin
22:06 < jsaw> re
22:13 < valentin> re
22:13 < mnemoc> do
22:14 < valentin> mnemoc: she likes toccata in d-minor.. .oO
22:14 < mnemoc> :)
22:16 < valentin> but she does not like the very high registers of that organ
22:16 < valentin> need to search a track with more woodwind pipes
22:16 < valentin> i think those high frequencies are not to nice for a baby ear
22:17 < mnemoc> that's why i use mozart
22:17 < valentin> but bach trains her math skills :)
22:18 < valentin> i listened to my mother playing bach when i was young
22:18 < mnemoc> but she has 1 month!
22:19 < valentin> i was -9 month...
22:19 < valentin> listening from my mothers belly :)
22:20 < jsaw> :)
22:21 < valentin> and live organ is an instrument you definitly feel vibrating :)
22:21 < mnemoc> :)
22:22 < jsaw> oh, due to a lot of water there's not that much damping inside womb
22:25 < valentin> and since you play church organ with hand and feet you have much movement
22:25 < jsaw> even better, yeah
22:26 < CIA-9> amery * r11127 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * finished mnemosyne's mnemosyne.pl module rules generation
22:26 < jsaw> funnily enough, babies only move when mum's not moving...
22:26 < jsaw> unborn, in mean
22:26 < valentin> hehe
22:26 < jsaw> damn, ... s/in/I/
22:27 < valentin> quite the same once they are born. either you carry them around or they get angry eventually
22:28 < jsaw> T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation Baby Development Environment
22:28 < valentin> btw: lars will visit us tomorow with his wife and their two babies :)
22:28 < valentin> s/babies/childs
22:29 < mnemoc> :D
22:29 < jsaw> T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | We'll keep you pension safe
22:30 < valentin> jsaw: Baby Eevelopment Environment == BDE which is a permutation of BED. how true ;)
22:30 < mnemoc> :D
22:30 < jsaw> :D
22:31 < mnemoc> we should do a children gallery :)
22:31 < mnemoc> rene is excluded
22:32 < jsaw> he's too old or what?
22:32 < valentin> mnemoc: maybe you can lend him one of your childs
22:32 < mnemoc> jsaw: he doesn't have children :)
22:32 < mnemoc> valentin: i has to made his own
22:32 < mnemoc> valentin: it's quite fun anyway :)
22:33 < jsaw> :D
22:33 < morfoh> hi jsaw :D
22:33 < valentin> so many parents at this channel
22:33 < jsaw> guess we were to busy hacking when we were young and didn't listen to our parents talking aobut safer sex...
22:33 < jsaw> morfoh: hi
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22:34 < mnemoc> :)
22:34 -!- gene_hacker is now known as jsaw
22:37 < jsaw> okay, I have to turn to my books, cu later
22:38 < mnemoc> cu jsaw
22:39 < valentin> cu jsaw
22:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: i got the usual failure on 1-dietlibc building a 2.1-minimal with SSP enabled
22:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: libgcc.a(_stack_smash_handler.oS)(.text+0x13a): In function `__stack_smash_handler': : undefined reference to `sigfillset'
22:53 < jsaw> (I should have turned to the books... but I have to correct this, solution might appear in a few seconds)
22:54 < mnemoc> :D
22:54 < mnemoc> books are bored
22:56 < valentin> i guess you mean "books are boring" ?
22:56 < jsaw> okay, build running, will take some time until I hit this point, cu later
22:57 < jsaw> (P.S.: my fix tries to make those symbols weak in libgcc so that they can be overridden, let's see if it works)
23:01 < mnemoc> valentin: my english sucks
23:02 < sparc-kly> hrrr my english sucks
23:02 < valentin> mnemoc: i find it quite good actually
23:15 < mnemoc> valentin: you are reading it :)
23:16 < mnemoc> actually i have never say a word in english since i finish school.... 9 years ago
23:16 < mnemoc> and the english level of my school was quite bad :(
23:16 < valentin> i think most of us have a terrible accent when speaking english.
23:17 < valentin> and because i know that, my speaking is even worse for psychological reasons
23:18 < mnemoc> :)
23:23 < CIA-9> amery * r11128 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (ggv/ggv.desc gnome-mag/gnome-mag.desc):
23:23 < CIA-9> * merged 9747 from trunk: updated gnome-mag (0.12.0 -> 0.12.1)
23:23 < CIA-9> * merged 9742 from trunk: updated ggv (2.8.4 -> 2.8.5)
23:30 < CIA-9> amery * r11129 /branches/2.1/package/gnome2/ (9 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10506 from trunk: updated control-center (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10524 from trunk: updated file-roller (2.10.3 -> 2.10.4)
23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 9753,10908,10935 from trunk: updated gedit (2.10.1 -> 2.10.5)
23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10511 from trunk: updated gnome-desktop (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 10521 from trunk: updated gnome-games (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
23:30 < CIA-9> * merged 9754 from trunk: updated gnome-media (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2)
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23:39 < keinek> hi
23:39 < mnemoc> hi keinek
23:44 < morfoh> moin keinek
23:56 < morfoh> good night folks ....
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