T2 IRC Log: 2005-08-11

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--- Log opened Thu Aug 11 00:00:00 2005
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00:53 < morfoh> good night everybody
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01:18 < shingo--> mnemoc, I had create a ticket about that problem /proc. http://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/61
01:19 < mnemoc> shingo--: and your fstab was?
01:41 < shingo--> I had put here in channel yesterday, that is ok. but I'll attach it
01:43 < shingo--> mnemoc, it's done. :)
02:12 < mnemoc> shingo--: trunk?
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03:58 < shingo--> mnemoc, I have some mixed packages.
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05:21 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
05:21 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
05:21 [Users #t2]
05:21 [@vilkacis] [ CIA-3] [ keinek ] [ nzg ] [ sepp ]
05:21 [ [Kosh] ] [ dsoul] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr ] [ shingo--]
05:21 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ valentin]
05:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
05:21 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
05:21 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs
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07:51 < morfoh> moin
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09:33 < rxr_> re
09:34 -!- You're now known as rxr
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10:59 < morfoh> moin rxr
10:59 < rxr> moin morfoh
10:59 < morfoh> rxr: everything fine today ?
11:14 < rxr> work work work ?
11:18 < sepp> moin
11:26 < CIA-3> rene * r10944 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnomesu/features.patch:
11:26 < CIA-3> * patched gnomesu to: not display the (mostly cryptic) command to be
11:26 < CIA-3> executed when specified on the command line and added the possibility
11:26 < CIA-3> to dump the entered password (used for cases where the old password
11:26 < CIA-3> is needed in order to set a new password ...)
11:26 < rxr> moin sepp
11:27 < sepp> hi rxr
11:28 < sepp> is there smart way to disable a touchpad in X only if a usb mouse is attached?
11:29 < morfoh> moin "nudossi" sepp
11:29 < morfoh> :)
11:29 < sepp> :)
11:29 < sepp> moin morfoh
11:38 < rxr> sepp: maybe not ...
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12:21 < veki> +++++++++
12:23 < veki> uh, excuse me , my mistake on keyboard, I was cleaning it :)
12:30 < rxr> hehe
12:30 < rxr> cu soon - /me off lunch
13:12 < rxr> re
13:25 < morfoh> wb rxr
13:29 < CIA-3> rene * r10945 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug: * fixes and new features for the archivista/.../90-backup.hotplug
13:51 < veki> I have to go cu later
13:53 < morfoh> veki: hi and cu :)
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14:29 [Users #t2]
14:29 [@vilkacis] [ CIA-3] [ keinek] [ nzg_] [ shingo-- ]
14:29 [ [Kosh] ] [ dsoul] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
14:29 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ sepp] [ valentin ]
14:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
14:32 < valentin> hi
14:32 < valentin> rxr: i got the scanner today
14:32 < valentin> seems to be repaired, but i did not plug it in yet
14:33 < valentin> s/repaired/exchanged
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14:34 < rxr> good
14:35 < valentin> they billed us $0.00 :)
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14:40 < rxr> please test
15:15 < CIA-3> rene * r10947 /trunk/target/archivista/config.patch: * added the hopefully final archivista server-side config, finally
15:17 < CIA-3> rene * r10948 /trunk/target/archivista/build_image.sh:
15:17 < CIA-3> * added deflating of a wine tarball containing the config and font
15:17 < CIA-3> metric cache as well as a archivista rich client installation
15:18 < CIA-3> rene * r10949 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu: * made sure the archivista xterm has reversed video (white on black)
15:21 -!- maddin [n=martin@p54BDC610.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
15:21 < maddin> hi :)
15:28 < rxr> hi
15:30 < morfoh> hi
15:41 < mnemoc> hi
15:41 < morfoh> moin mnemoc :)
15:42 < maddin> hi rxr morfoh and mnemoc
15:42 < morfoh> hi maddin
15:42 < mnemoc> hi maddin,rxr,morfoh
15:48 < maddin> rxr: u a back? nice holidays?
15:48 < mnemoc> maddin: he is at .ch :)
15:49 < rxr> maddin: yes, I was back and am in Zeurich again
15:49 < rxr> but on staturday
15:49 < rxr> on saturday I should be back for a longer time
15:49 < maddin> for holidays or work?
15:49 < rxr> btw I have a G4 mac mini now
15:49 < rxr> thus live cd building ...
15:49 < rxr> maddin: 5 weeks holiday? nope - work work work ...
15:50 < maddin> wow. and it's fast and low
15:50 < morfoh> bbl
15:50 < maddin> ?
15:50 < maddin> work work work = money money money = much money? ;)
15:51 < rxr> sort of
15:51 < rxr> enough to pay my bills to the end of the year ,-)
15:52 < mnemoc> :)
15:52 < mnemoc> .oO( living 5 months with the money of one week )o
15:52 < maddin> this good.
15:54 < rxr> mnemoc: well - s/one/four/
15:54 < rxr> though plus a 19" TFT and mac mini ,-)
15:55 < mnemoc> :D
15:55 < mnemoc> sounds good enough :)
15:56 < mnemoc> the holiday with susan is also included?
15:56 < rxr> mnemoc: I do not have your 5.000 USD uni bill ...
15:56 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
15:57 < mnemoc> rxr: i pay two universities, and two kinder gardens :)
15:58 < jsaw> re
15:58 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
15:58 < jsaw> hola mnemoc
15:59 < mnemoc> buenos días jsaw
15:59 < jsaw> :)
15:59 < rxr> mnemoc: ok - so it it all about "I'm not yet married ,-)"
16:00 < jsaw> hi rxr
16:00 < rxr> hi jsaw
16:00 < mnemoc> rxr: ack :D
16:03 * maddin is away, again ...#
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16:05 < CIA-3> rene * r10950 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
16:05 < CIA-3> * updated archivista target chpasswd.sh as well as the fluxbox menu
16:05 < CIA-3> and removed unused fluxbox config files
16:17 < CIA-3> amery * r10951 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl:
16:17 < CIA-3> * changed mnemosyne.pl's tgt_mnemosyne_parser to return just one value
16:17 < CIA-3> * half implemented mnemosyne.pl's tgt_mnemosyne_render_option
16:24 < CIA-3> rene * r10952 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/initrdinit:
16:24 < CIA-3> * added support to run a custom init (as defined by init= at the kernel
16:24 < CIA-3> command line) to the initrdinit
16:24 < rxr> ^- untested
16:28 < mnemoc> rxr: what about locale and kb on kernel command line?
16:29 < rxr> for the live cd ?
16:29 < mnemoc> yep
16:29 < rxr> the above was every system - not live cd ,-)
16:29 < mnemoc> yes yes i know
16:29 < mnemoc> but it's harmless for non-live systems
16:31 < rxr> the live init is another ,-)
16:31 < rxr> but yes - such features are planned
16:36 < mnemoc> :)
16:41 < keinek> hi
16:50 < rxr> re
16:50 < rxr> ok - now the initrdinit is tested
16:51 < mnemoc> and works?
16:53 < rxr> of course ,-)#
16:55 < mnemoc> :)
16:56 < CIA-3> rene * r10953 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.conf:
16:56 < CIA-3> * fixed udev/udev.conf to not prepend invalid $root fluff before the
16:56 < CIA-3> udev directory configured
17:01 < rxr> jsaw: your build_root -> build_toolchain transition did cost me some time right now ...
17:02 < jsaw> really ?
17:02 < jsaw> why ?
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17:02 < jsaw> btw, it was build_rock -> build_toolchain
17:03 < jsaw> build_root is untouched
17:05 < jsaw> gotta go, cu later
17:06 < rxr> yeaah - sorry - typo
17:06 < rxr> all - fine anyway - just half HEAD tree that caused some debugging nightmare ... ,-)
17:19 < CIA-3> rene * r10954 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network.sh: * fixed typo in archivista/network.sh
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17:28 < shingo--> hi.
17:29 < shingo--> somebody known about this? http://lists.pld.org.pl/mailman/pipermail/shadow/2005-April/000097.html
17:30 < shingo--> this problem occurs with me. but it's only warnings, I think.
17:47 < CIA-3> rene * r10955 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu network.sh):
17:47 < CIA-3> * improved archivista target to allow reconfiguration of the network
17:47 < CIA-3> port
17:59 < rxr> cool - latest unionfs resolved a kernel panic occuring on the archivista live-cd ,-)! !!!!
18:05 < mnemoc> :D
18:05 < rxr> and thus most probably the vanilla live cd as well ...
18:06 < rxr> though I have not built one using the t2 trunk code yet ...
18:06 < rxr> my g4 building a ppc one is stalled on openldap ...
18:26 < CIA-3> rene * r10956 /trunk/target/archivista/menu.lst: * new background color for the archivista grub/menu.lst
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18:29 < mnemoc> hi sparc-kly
18:32 < _Ragnar_> moin
18:34 < sparc-kly> hi ll
18:34 < sparc-kly> all*
18:35 < _Ragnar_> hey hey
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18:38 < sparc-kly> portage in OSX is good tool .
18:38 < sparc-kly> = Summary
18:38 < sparc-kly> Total Builds: 1
18:38 < sparc-kly> Time Elapsed: 8 minutes, and 41 seconds
18:38 < sparc-kly> Average Time: 8 minutes, and 41 seconds
18:38 < sparc-kly> First Build: net-analyzer/nmap-3.81
18:38 < sparc-kly> (Thu Aug 11 09:01:00 2005)
18:53 < CIA-3> amery * r10957 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * changed mnemosyne.pl to 'strict' mode, but needs structural changes to really work.
18:54 < CIA-3> rene * r10958 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu create-key.sh): * added gpg key generation to the archivista target
18:54 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: wrong channel
18:55 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: anyway, 8 minutes to build nmap is too much :)
19:03 < sparc-kly> in G3 400mhz . hehehehehe
19:04 < morfoh> cu gueys ... I'll move to brussels now
19:04 < morfoh> bye bye
19:04 < _Ragnar_> O_O cya :)
19:04 < _Ragnar_> take care
19:05 < rxr> move ? ...
19:06 < morfoh> nah!
19:06 < CIA-3> rene * r10959 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/ (fluxbox-menu init menu):
19:06 < CIA-3> * moved the fluxbox-menu for the archivista target to a more standard
19:06 < CIA-3> location
19:06 < rxr> just joking ,-)
19:06 < morfoh> rxr: :D
19:06 < morfoh> cu
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19:08 < CIA-3> rene * r10960 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/create-key.sh: * added flushing of any previous keys to the archivista gpg key gen
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19:57 < minto> hi all
19:57 < CIA-3> rene * r10961 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug:
19:57 < CIA-3> * fixes and imrprovements for the archivista usb storage hotplug
19:57 < CIA-3> handler:
19:57 < CIA-3> * fixed root authentication (missing escapes around braces)
19:57 < CIA-3> * fixed key exporting and added a check for key availability
19:57 < CIA-3> * fixed crypted export path
20:03 < CIA-3> rene * r10962 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/hotplug.d/default/90-backup.hotplug:
20:03 < CIA-3> * fixed archivista usb storage hotplug decrypt conditional
20:03 < CIA-3> * some tiny changes for proof of concept crypto testing until the
20:03 < CIA-3> database export script arrives
20:05 < mnemoc> hi minto
20:05 < rxr> hey minto !
20:06 < minto> hi rxr, mnemoc :)
20:07 < rxr> imagine our commit graph with 3-4 such commercial "full-time" targets ,-)
20:07 < minto> rxr: Wieder in der Schweiz?
20:08 < rxr> minto: yes - still - but only till saturday morning - then I'll fly back to berlin
20:08 < rxr> and any remaining stuff will be done from my office over there ...
20:08 < rxr> until some emmergency ...
20:09 < minto> 3 to 4 commercial targets?
20:09 < CIA-3> rene * r10963 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnomesu/features.patch:
20:09 < CIA-3> * improved my gnomesu/feature.patch to not leak the password to stdout
20:09 < CIA-3> but to an environment variable (only on request, of course ...)
20:10 < mnemoc> rxr: do you plan to use nested targets or you really prefer target clonning?
20:10 < rxr> I do not prefer cloning
20:11 < rxr> if nesting works I'll sooner than later use it
20:11 < rxr> but that will depend
20:11 < rxr> and we also have to take care that all the concepts fit together - that is nesting and package splitting / forking and so on ...
20:11 < CIA-3> amery * r10964 /branches/2.1/scripts/Build-Target:
20:11 < CIA-3> * merged 9822 from trunk: fixed Build-Target to not try to build binary packages of stage-0 only packages
20:11 < CIA-3> * merged 9837 from trunk: fixed Build-Target to suppress error messages of ls on files that are not garanteed to exist
20:11 < _Ragnar_> what are nested targets?
20:12 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: define a target as an extension of other
20:12 < _Ragnar_> ah ok
20:13 < _Ragnar_> so you can have embedded target, and then an extensions for firewall, network storage device, ... ?
20:14 < CIA-3> rene * r10965 /trunk/target/archivista/TODO: * tiny archivista/TODO cleanup
20:14 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ack
20:14 < _Ragnar_> kewl :) that would make some things a lot easier
20:16 < rxr> ok - 10h in office - that should do - /me off to get food and sleep ,-)
20:16 < minto> cu rxr, enjoy dinner and sleep well
20:16 < rxr> and since I have my new 256 MB memory stick duo thing in my cell and filled with the basic mp3 collection walking around in zurich will be more fun now ,-)
20:17 < _Ragnar_> have fun rene :)
20:17 < _Ragnar_> ;D
20:17 < rxr> though coping them via bluetooth took some time yesterday ... ,-)
20:17 < rxr> pushed them via konqueror obex object push support
20:17 < rxr> just annoying the damn sony ericson k750i wants a ok hit for each file ...
20:18 < _Ragnar_> *lol* ok that sucks
20:18 < rxr> ,-)
20:18 < rxr> cu all - have fun and good night ,-)
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21:18 < veki> hi
21:21 < veki> I am building desktop target and it got to the stage [5] with no problems. Knock, knock, knock on the wooden table for good luck untill the end of build process.
21:44 < valentin> re
21:44 < valentin> wow: http://www.eye.ch/~bagatto/magic11.html
21:44 < valentin> in german only
21:44 < mnemoc> :(
21:45 < mnemoc> veki: in normal conditions desktop target shall build flawless
21:46 < valentin> oh - rxr is gone :(
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21:46 < sepp> haha they removed all cards :D
21:47 < mnemoc> ?
21:47 < sepp> the eye.ch thing
21:47 < sepp> or better exchanged
21:48 < CIA-3> amery * r10966 /branches/2.1/scripts/ (Build-Pkg functions):
21:48 < CIA-3> * merged 9738 from trunk: fixed debug.sh to mount/umount loop and proc
21:48 < CIA-3> * merged 10007,10232,10291 from trunk: prettyfied the uniq build id and $builddir to contain $config
21:48 < CIA-3> * merged 10069 from trunk: erased positional parameters before processing $desc_O
21:49 < valentin> sepp: yes, but it is a good trick - i fell for it for some seconds
21:50 < sepp> yes but only some seconds :)
21:50 < valentin> yes. i think more superstitios people will be convinced :)
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