--- Log opened Fri Aug 05 00:00:00 2005
00:04 < mnemoc> svn log ?
00:04 < mnemoc> svn blame
00:05 < sepp> svn log says nothing :(
00:05 < sepp> at least not why it is O
00:05 < mnemoc> svn blame ?
00:05 < sepp> maybe
00:09 < sepp> blame - "god"
00:11 < sepp> lol with worker i get the amiga feeling :)
00:11 < mnemoc> X -----5---- 224.700 x11 worker 2.10.0 / extra/tool 0
00:11 < mnemoc> it was built on my reference
00:11 < mnemoc> so, X it :)
00:12 < sepp> you explicity enabled it?
00:15 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10819 /trunk/package/x11/worker/worker.desc: * X'ed worker
00:16 < mnemoc> sepp: yes, i have it on my pkgsel
00:16 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/config/pkgsel
00:16 < sepp> ahh ok :), i was just wondering about the O ...
00:18 < keinek> hi
00:19 < sepp> hi keinek 
00:19 < mnemoc> hi keinek-chan
00:20 < sepp> lol my pkgsel has 231 lines
00:21 < mnemoc> :)
00:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktopathlon
00:22 < morfoh> Error logs from desktopathlon-2.1.0-rc2-x86-athlon-desktop:
00:22 < morfoh> 677 builds total, 526 completed fine, 0 with errors.
00:23 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktop
00:23 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-desktop:
00:23 < mnemoc> 677 builds total, 438 completed fine, 0 with errors.
00:27 < keinek> hi morfoh 
00:28 < keinek> relax, i dont bashing anybody ;)
00:28 < morfoh> hi keinek my old "bashing compaņero"
00:28 < morfoh> :D
00:28 < morfoh> keinek: I'm totally relaxed
00:28 < keinek> i try to help veky, and viking.
00:28 < morfoh> :)
00:29 < keinek> :)
00:29 < sepp> :)
00:43 < sepp> good night all 
00:45 < morfoh> sleep well sepp :)
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01:36 < _Ragnar_> hmpf
01:36 < _Ragnar_> ruby is patched to use /usr/lib64/ruby to install it's files, but it's search path is still /usr/lib/ruby
01:37 < mnemoc_> the patch needs to cover more files :)
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01:45 < _Ragnar_> when is hook_add inmake called?
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01:47 < mnemoc_> between make and makeinst
01:48 < _Ragnar_> ah ok
01:48 < _Ragnar_> that's not exactly what is needed here;p
01:49 < mnemoc_> :)
01:54 < morfoh> Hey Ragnar :)
01:56 < morfoh> mnemoc_: btw, does your new friend the werewolf bites ? ;p
01:58 < CIA-9> chris * r10820 /trunk/package/develop/libnjb/ (. libnjb.desc): * added libnjb (2.2.1)
01:58 < mnemoc_> %kick morfoh 
01:58 <@vilkacis> mnemoc_: Error: You don't have the #t2,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
01:58 < mnemoc_> :(
01:59 < morfoh> oh!you want to kick me ?
01:59 < morfoh> mnemoc_: what have I done ?
01:59 < mnemoc_> i wanted to see if he bites
01:59 < mnemoc_> :)
02:01 < morfoh> mnemoc_: ok my friend 
02:01 < CIA-9> chris * r10821 /trunk/package/kde/kzenexplorer/ (. kzenexplorer.desc njb.patch): * added kzenexplorer (0.6)
02:01 < morfoh> mnemoc_: you know you new friend will have no chance against me anyway :p
02:02 < morfoh> mnemoc_: I've a shotgun full of silver bullets
02:05 < morfoh> mnemoc_: # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktopathlon
02:05 < morfoh> Error logs from desktopathlon-2.1.0-rc2-x86-athlon-desktop:
02:05 < morfoh> 677 builds total, 573 completed fine, 0 with errors.
02:11 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10822 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.conf: * fix ruby to include the appropriate usr/lib64/ruby paths on x86_64
03:01 < mnemoc_> re
03:01 < mnemoc_> morfoh: we can choose between T2-desktop, T2-mnemosyne or his own T2 target :)
03:02 < mnemoc_> morfoh: s/we/he/
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03:18 < Shingo--> hi
03:20 < Shingo--> i'm in t2 now.
03:23 < mnemoc_> :D
03:23 < mnemoc_> brb
03:37 < Shingo--> what is brb? 
03:37 < mnemoc_> be right back
03:38 < mnemoc_> %acronym brb
03:38 < Shingo--> :)
03:38 <@vilkacis> mnemoc_: brb could be (I'll) Be Right Back (IRC), or Banco Regional de Bras&#237;lia SA (Brazilian bank), or Barbados (ISO Country code), or Base Rate Boundary, or Baseline Review Board (US Navy), or Bath Room Break, or Benefits Review Board (US Department of Labor), or Benelux Research Business, or Bernard and Audre Rapoport Building (University of Texas, Austin), or Big Red Band, or Big Red Button, or (1 more message)
03:38 < mnemoc_> %more
03:38 <@vilkacis> mnemoc_: Biometric Research Branch, or Birmingham Royal Ballet, or Biweekly Rate Booklet, or Black River Boats, or Blue Ridge Boogie, or Blue Ridge Broadcasting, or Bond Review Board (Texas), or Brandenburg, or Brazilian Rainbow Boa (herpetoculture)
03:38 < Shingo--> it ok :)
03:38 < mnemoc_> :)
03:39 < Shingo--> but I have to copy for my main partition.
03:39 < mnemoc_> ?
03:39 < Shingo--> heheh, I have made a instalation on backup hd.
03:40 < Shingo--> i want to earase gentoo :)
03:40 < Shingo--> sorry, delete gentoo. :)
03:40 < mnemoc_> :)
03:51 < Shingo--> mnemoc_: how to create packages, to an installed system?
03:52 < mnemoc_> Shingo--: first get a copy on t2 tree
03:52 < mnemoc_> of*
03:54 < Shingo--> but i have the old one.
04:05 < Shingo--> mnemoc_: ?
04:05 < mnemoc_> svn co http://..... /usr/src/t2-stable
04:17 < Shingo--> it's done. :) it's a same tree.
04:17 < mnemoc_> Shingo--: do you want to create new package or to build an existant one?
04:18 < Shingo--> well, the actual system is mixed. I want to recompile, or something like that.
04:19 < mnemoc_> copy your old config to config/default
04:19 < mnemoc_> it should be at etc/ROCK-CONFIG
04:20 < mnemoc_> and run Emerge-Pkg -dry-run
04:28 < Shingo--> I copy my old config to, config/default, have to copy manually to etc/ROCK-CONFIG?
04:29 < mnemoc_> from /etc/ROCK-CONFIG/ to config/default/
04:29 < mnemoc_> yes, manually
04:29 < mnemoc_> i have a RFC about improving Emerge-Pkg on ML
04:31 < Shingo--> which version the mc is this? :)
04:31 < mnemoc_> mine -q mc
04:33 < Shingo--> emerge tell me, ... : none
04:33 < mnemoc_> tell him the packages you want to rebuild
04:34 < Shingo--> but, in gentoo is a "up" version. but here is better. why?
04:36 < mnemoc_> what do you mean?
04:47 < Shingo--> in gentoo mc is version 4.6, here in t2 4.1.40-pre9
04:51 < mnemoc_> sh misc/archive/Update.sh mc 4.6
04:52 < mnemoc_> yuck
04:52 < mnemoc_> http://mc.linuxinside.com/ <--- err 500
04:54 < mnemoc_> Shingo--: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mcmp/ 
04:54 < mnemoc_> 4.1.40-pre8 :D
04:54 < Shingo--> here is 4.1.40-pre9 :)
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04:55 < Shingo--> [Kosh]: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mcmp/
04:55 < Shingo--> mnemoc_: he's my brother. :)
04:55 < mnemoc_> GNU Midnight Commander is 4.6.1
04:55 < mnemoc_> two different branches i guess
04:56 < mnemoc_> http://www.ibiblio.org/mc/ <--- 4.6.1
04:56 < Shingo--> but, this version in t2, is much better. :)
04:56 < mnemoc_> then, we stay with mcmp :p
04:57 < Shingo--> i'm only know mc 4.6.1.
04:57 < Shingo--> :), best choice.
04:58 < mnemoc_> ttp://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:naSOIyHzSmsJ:mc.linuxinside.com/+Midnight+Commander+&hl=en
04:58 < mnemoc_> http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:naSOIyHzSmsJ:mc.linuxinside.com/+Midnight+Commander+&hl=en
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05:57 < mnemoc_> % topic 5
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06:13 < mnemoc> %topic 5
06:13 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: (topic [<channel>]) -- Returns the topic for <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
06:13 < mnemoc> %list topic 
06:13 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: add, change, default, fit, get, insert, list, lock, redo, remove, reorder, replace, restore, separator, set, shuffle, swap, topic, undo, and unlock
06:14 < mnemoc> %topic
06:14 <@vilkacis> mnemoc:  T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Avant Premier at http://torrent.t2-project.org/
06:14 < mnemoc> %topic replace 5 rc2 Avant Premier at http://torrent.t2-project.org/
06:14 -!- vilkacis changed the topic of #t2 to:  T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | rc2 Avant Premier at http://torrent.t2-project.org/
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06:25 < CIA-9> amery * r10823 /trunk/package/base/attr/attr.desc: * updated attr (2.4.20 -> 2.4.23)
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06:27 < CIA-9> amery * r10824 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/xfsprogs.desc: * updated xfsprogs (2.6.25 -> 2.6.36)
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09:33 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10825 /trunk/package/network/tor/tor.desc: * updated tor (0.1.0.12 -> 0.1.0.13)
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10:05 < shingo--> the t2 project is very cool. I very happy. :)
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10:22 < morfoh> re hi
10:24 < mtr> hi morfoh 
10:28 < morfoh> hey mtr, did your kids threw you out of your bed again ? :)
10:30 < mtr> morfoh: this time not :( needed an alarm bell to get out this morning
10:31 < mtr> morfoh: could you create an account on trac for me? or can i register myself somewhere on this site?
10:31 < morfoh> mtr: ack
10:31 < morfoh> mtr: I'll create an account
10:31 < morfoh> mtr: one moment pls
10:33 < mtr> morfoh: many thanks, i want to add some coments, but it need not to be immediate
10:34 < mtr> morfoh: do it when you have time for this
10:34 < morfoh> mtr: I'll do it now, because I'll not be here during the weekend, and I don't want to stop you adding content :)
10:38 < mtr> morfoh: ok, thanks for your help then
10:38 < morfoh> mtr: yw :)
10:48 < CIA-9> chris * r10826 /trunk/package/security/prewikka/prewikka.desc: * updated prewikka (0.9.0-rc8 -> 0.9.0-rc9)
10:52 < morfoh> mtr: have you seen my query regarding the pw hash ?
10:58 < mtr> morfoh: yep
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11:18 < morfoh> mtr: trac account created ... have fun :)
11:22 < mtr> morfoh: :)
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11:58 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | rc2 Avant Premier at http://torrent.t2-project.org/
11:58 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Fri Aug  5 06:14:40 2005]
11:58 [Users #t2]
11:58 [@vilkacis ] [ dsoul ] [ keinek] [ mtr_] [ rxr_    ] [ valentin] 
11:58 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw  ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ sepp    ] 
11:58 [ CIA-9    ] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ shingo--] 
11:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
11:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 21:15:33 2004
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12:05 < rxr_> re
12:06 < valentin> moin rxr_ , all
12:06 < rxr_> oh ! hi valentin !
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12:18 < morfoh> moin rxr, valentin 
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12:19 < mtr> hi rxr, valentin 
12:26 < rxr> moin morfoh and mtr
12:34 < CIA-9> rene * r10827 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.desc: * updated valgrind (2.4.0 -> 3.0.0)
12:47 < CIA-9> rene * r10828 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: * fixed Emerge-Pkg for the -repository case
12:48 < valentin> hi mtr
12:48 < valentin> 6296 : 10827
12:49 < valentin> almost x2
12:49 < valentin> what's wrong with them this year ?
12:59 < karasz> good morning to you all :)
13:00 < valentin> morning karasz 
13:00 < valentin> btw: where are you from ?
13:01 < morfoh> rxr: strange. while building desktop-athlon dbus and hal failing -> Tickets #58 and #59
13:01 < morfoh> hi karasz 
13:01 < valentin> moin morfoh 
13:02 < karasz> valentin: me?
13:03 < morfoh> valentin: finally you answered my "moin" ;)
13:03 < valentin> morfoh: sorry, overread that
13:03 < valentin> karasz: yes
13:03 < morfoh> valentin: everything fine with your girls ? :)
13:03 < valentin> yes, thank you.
13:03 < morfoh> :)
13:03 < valentin> the little girl is sleeping again
13:03 < karasz> valentin: Wild Easter Europe :)
13:04 < morfoh> valentin: vampire country ;)
13:04 < karasz> i forgot the `n` :)
13:04 < valentin> karasz: thought so.
13:04 < karasz> yes
13:04 < karasz> why?
13:04 < valentin> just curious
13:04 < karasz> how is it so obvious?
13:04 < karasz> my bad english gave me away?
13:04 < valentin> no, but the 'sz' in your name sounds a bit eastern
13:05 < karasz> i was born in Romania, but my name is hungarian
13:05 < karasz> i live near the hungarian border..
13:05 < morfoh> .oO( why are dbus and hal just failing on a athlon optimized build )o 
13:07 < morfoh> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg minimal-p4
13:07 < morfoh> Error logs from minimal-p4-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium4-generic:
13:07 < morfoh> 162 builds total, 162 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:08 < karasz> anyway i never undesrstood why in hungarian the sound s must be written `sz` and the sound sh is written `s`, that is odd 
13:09 < karasz> morfoh: are you goin' on weekend?
13:09 < morfoh> yep ... I'll not be here during the weekend
13:10 < karasz> that is good?
13:10 < morfoh> karasz: why "?"
13:11 < karasz> if it is a trip kind of thing than it is good, if it means problems you must take care of it is not good..
13:11 < morfoh> karasz: I'll visit my parents 
13:11 < karasz> that is very good
13:11 < morfoh> :)
13:12 < karasz> i am leaving too
13:12 < karasz> you guys will get rid of me for some time :)
13:12 < karasz> no more parrots on the list...
13:13 < morfoh> karasz: unfortunately I can enjoy this freedom :p
13:13 < morfoh> cannot
13:13 < karasz> why?
13:13 < morfoh> karasz: because I'm not here ;)
13:13 < karasz> oh, you will be :)
13:14 < karasz> i am disapearing almost until september
13:14 < morfoh> oops ... where do you go ?
13:14 < karasz> that is a relief isn't it :D  ?
13:14 < morfoh> karasz: holyday ?
13:14 < karasz> yep
13:14 < karasz> my first one in 11 years :(
13:15 < morfoh> karasz: will you go far away 
13:16 < karasz> i do not know.. it depends on how you define far away :)
13:17 < karasz> morfoh: i made my firs package contrib to T2 :D
13:18 < karasz> so now i deserve my holiday
13:18 < morfoh> karasz: good :)
13:18 < morfoh> karasz: oh! this is a nice theory :)
13:18 < karasz> and of course during that i encountered some starnge stuff
13:18 < jsaw> re
13:19 < jsaw> hi all
13:19 < karasz> hi jsaw 
13:19 < morfoh> hi jsaw 
13:19 < jsaw> karasz: see comment on "agpgart problem" ticket
13:19 < jsaw> hi karasz, morfoh 
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13:39 < rxr> hi
13:39 < rxr> gsmp is going down for HD maintenance soon
13:40 < jsaw> hi rxr
13:40 < morfoh> rxr: ack
13:40 < rxr> hi jsaw 
13:40 < rxr> cu
13:41 < morfoh> cu
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14:06 < morfoh> ok ... folks ... cu later 
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14:11 < karasz> cu morfof
14:11 < karasz> cu morfoh 
14:11 < karasz> sorry :D
14:15 < shingo--> where I have goes to configure dhclient to send a hostname to a dhcp server?
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15:05 < rxr> re
15:05 < rxr> so - most of gsmp is online again
15:05 < rxr> the ftp area is beeing copied right now
15:05 < rxr> that may take some more time due to too many bad sectors though
15:05 < rxr> cu
15:05 < rxr> later
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15:46 < morfoh> re hi
15:53 < CIA-9> mtr * r10829 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/vdr.conf: * trac #41: use match_source_file to locate skin files
16:14 < CIA-9> mtr * r10830 /trunk/package/network/isdn4k-utils/ (4 files): 
16:14 < CIA-9> * decustmain'ed isdn4k-utils
16:14 < CIA-9> * trac #31: inhibit creation of /dev nodes
16:24 < morfoh> mtr:  ^ :D
16:25 < karasz> guys i read what jsaw added to trac #57
16:25 < karasz> but i have no /etc/devfs.d ... :(
16:25 < karasz> re hi morfoh 
16:25 < karasz> :D
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16:59 < Veki> hi
17:03 < morfoh> hi vamp :)
17:03 < morfoh> hi karasz :)
17:03 < Veki> morfoh: hi
17:03 < Veki> how are you?
17:03 < Veki> I am building boot, rescue, install target
17:08 < morfoh> Veki: I'm fine thanks. Hope you too. I'm a bit in a hurry because I'll go for visiting my parents this weekend and I'm a late ;)
17:09 < Veki> OK :)
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17:15 < morfoh> bye bye ... cu all on sunday evening :)
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17:20 < rxr> re
17:20 < karasz> hi rxr
17:21 < karasz> just a quick question
17:21 < karasz> regarding ticket #57
17:21 < karasz> jsaw proposed a solution, but i do not have /etc/devfs.d/
17:26 < _Ragnar__> moin moin
17:28 < karasz> moin moin _Ragnar__ 
17:28 < karasz> and good by to you all
17:29 < karasz> i am goin on vacation (mnemoc should feel an imense relief :D )
17:29 < karasz> cu you all on september
17:29 < karasz> maybe a little sonner
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17:30 < _Ragnar__> *rofl*
17:36 < rxr> rehi
18:14 < rxr> mnemoc: I now have two "new" HDs in the gsmp box
18:15 < rxr> I can reset your ssh pass when you lost yours and you can push releases onto the box via ssh in the future - ok ?
18:15 < rxr>                       40207856  10767060  29440796  27% /home
18:15 < rxr>                       40207856   8494568  31713288  22% /home/public/ftp
18:15 < rxr> should be enough for the next days
18:15 < rxr> and I have one more 40GB "used IBM" disk to plug in later on
18:38 < mnemoc> rxr: :D
18:39 < mnemoc> rxr: i prefer pubkey and no password, but ok
18:39 < rxr> mnemoc: do you still have you pass or key?
18:39 < rxr> mnemoc: whatever ...
18:39 < rxr> do you remeber / have one or should I reset / inject a new one ?
18:41 < mnemoc> rxr: i haven't change my key in years :)
18:42 < mnemoc> rxr: what should i try?
18:42 < rxr> ssh gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
18:42 < mnemoc> -l ?
18:42 < rxr> mnemoc@
18:42 < mnemoc> i'm in :)
18:43 < rxr> good
18:44 < rxr> I open a new group for people releasing files
18:44 < rxr> so you can directly inject them into the release "ftp" area
18:45 < mnemoc> do you prefer that? incoming/ ?
18:45 < rxr> just syncing into your home dir should be ok
18:45 < rxr> and then move it to the release area
18:45 < rxr> tough they are on seperate disks - thus in the future syncing into some incoming is more optimal
18:46 < mnemoc> i'll do some pre-rsync work, and start syncing
18:48 < rxr> btw susan and I tested out xfce these days - not too bad
18:48 < rxr> I think susan will use it instead of gnome - but I think I'll not use it for a longer time
18:48 < mnemoc> :)
18:51 < rxr> on gsmp there now is a t2rel (t2 relesers) group you and I am in
18:51 < rxr> the data storage is in /home/public/ftp/t2
18:51 < rxr> {,un}stable
18:52 < rxr> the sync to the mirros is run automatically
18:52 < mnemoc> i don't have write access there btw
18:53 < rxr> oh - right
18:54 < rxr> but now
18:54 < rxr> (for the dirs=
18:54 < rxr> ) even
18:58 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. please try if rsyncing over the previous release brings a speedup (though I fear not due to the mod times and such completey alter the bzip2 packages)
18:58 < rxr> since extreme incomming traffic (many new ISO syncs) might upset the uni admins ...)
19:00 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, i'll play over copies of rc1 files
19:04 < rxr> /home/public/ftp/t2/incoming/
19:05 < mnemoc> there?
19:05 < mnemoc> is it excluded?
19:05 < rxr> it is shown in by apache if you mean that
19:05 < mnemoc> excluded on auto-replication
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19:05 < mnemoc> rsync
19:05 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
19:05 < rxr> yes - it is not replicated
19:05 < jsaw> re
19:05 < rxr> hi jsaw 
19:05 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
19:05 < jsaw> hi rxr 
19:06 < rxr> mnemoc: I have some script lines to only replicate the last 2,3 4 whatever releases to save space on those mirrors ... and only replicate stable and unstable trees
19:06 < mnemoc> good
19:08 < jsaw> rxr: I added scsi to hotplug++, can you test?
19:09 < jsaw> rxr: what should we do with the support files (/etc/hotplug{,.d}/)? Copy them from other hotplug?
19:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: did you deside anything about network_start/hotplug++/ifplugd relation?
19:10 < mnemoc> /usr/share/hotplug++ ?
19:10 < mnemoc> etc is for config :p
19:10 < jsaw> yep, I know
19:10 < jsaw> I mean exactly those files that normal hotplug installs there ...
19:12 < _Ragnar__> note: hotplug++ crashes for me with a segfault
19:12 < jsaw> 'bout network_start/hotplug++/ifplugd, no, not yet. It's indeed non-trivial :(
19:12 < jsaw> _Ragnar__: update dietlibc
19:12 < _Ragnar__> is most up-to-date
19:12 < rxr> _Ragnar__: any time? or only for say isapnp ?
19:12 < jsaw> give it a try re-emerging
19:12 < _Ragnar__> any time
19:13 < mnemoc> jsaw: can you add a 'device black list' on hotplug++?
19:13 < rxr> _Ragnar__: even when you execute it manually ?
19:13 < rxr> on which platform btw.?
19:13 < rxr> manually as in 'hotplug++'
19:13 < mnemoc> jsaw: jsaw something like: "hey! don't even try to look at 0000:00:1f.1, you will die"
19:13 < jsaw> mnemoc: this is one of there reasons I'm asking for the file installation...
19:14 < rxr> jsaw: hotplug++ should use the same files as hotplug
19:14 < jsaw> rxr: what do you mean? Does one have to install both to get those files for hotplug++? Or can I add them to hotplug++ from hotplug?
19:15 < mnemoc> ln -s /usr/share/hotplug++ /etc/hotplug ?
19:15 < rxr> do not copy the files
19:15 < rxr> I do not want to maintain those files ...
19:15 < jsaw> but what else?
19:15 < rxr> and other packages might add stuff - e.g. sane for scanner permission setting ...
19:15 < _Ragnar__> rxr: yes, platform is p4
19:15 < rxr> oehm
19:15 < jsaw> rxr: what's the problem? We only need the links to hal and udevstart...?
19:15 < rxr> _Ragnar__: backtrace 
19:16 < rxr> ?
19:16 < _Ragnar__> I'll make one later
19:16 < jsaw> rxr: + the files from rockplug... blacklist+usermaps etc.
19:16 < rxr> _Ragnar__: thanks
19:16 < _Ragnar__> don't have the lappy with me
19:16 < rxr> _Ragnar__: it works here fine - the "only" known problem is, that it segfaults when some file (e.g. isapnp files) does not exist
19:17 < jsaw> no it doesn't anymore
19:17 < jsaw> I fixed this
19:17 < rxr> I have to really implement the stream classes to really fix that ...
19:17 < rxr> jsaw: oh
19:17 < rxr> how ?
19:17 < _Ragnar__> O_O
19:17 < _Ragnar__> *g*
19:17 < _Ragnar__> ok
19:17 < _Ragnar__> btw : tmp/xine-0.7.4/patches/xine-lib.patch <-- where does this come from
19:17 < _Ragnar__> ?
19:17 < jsaw> a simple call to "f.is_open()" before the loop
19:17 < jsaw> temporary workaround...
19:18 < mnemoc> _Ragnar__: $foo/pkg_xine_* ?
19:18 < rxr> ic
19:18 < rxr> time for a new hotplug++ release then ,-)
19:18 < jsaw> I'd like to add "make install" before ...
19:18 < rxr> jsaw: reg. hotplug - maybe make the directories in 00-dirtree
19:18 < rxr> so they are always there
19:18 < jsaw> hmmm.... 
19:19 < _Ragnar__> good idea :)
19:19 < rxr> what else to you mean - the blacklist
19:19 < _Ragnar__> btw side note: Emerge-Pkg 00-dirtree fails ;D
19:19 < rxr> I do not find the hotplug blacklist too useful - maybe patch hotplug not to install it and let the sysfiles or so inject a useful one ?
19:19 < jsaw> rxr: why can't I simply check for existance of /etc/hotplug.d/default/{10-udev.hotplug,20-hal.hotplug} and install those links if they do not exist?
19:19 < rxr> _Ragnar__: open a trac issue ?
19:20 < rxr> oehm
19:20 < rxr> those links have to be included in udev and hal respectively
19:20 < jsaw> really?
19:20 < rxr> they create them
19:20 < jsaw> ic
19:21 < jsaw> so creating /etc/hotplug.d/default is enough for hotplug++
19:21 < jsaw> now the rest
19:21 < rxr> why not make etc/hotplud.d/default in 00-dirtree ?
19:21 < jsaw> we have added quite some id's (e.g. nvidia) to pci.*map, may I take them over from rockplug?
19:22 < rxr> yes - just take them over
19:22 < jsaw> rxr: because we want other ppl to use it...
19:22 < jsaw> instead of hotplug :)
19:22 < rxr> jsaw: ah - yes - good point
19:22 < rxr> yes - copy from rockplug - I think we can remove rockplug from trunk now, right?
19:22 < rxr> considered obsolete - on my side
19:22 < jsaw> rxr: where can I put the INSTALL{,_DATA,...} variables?
19:23 < rxr> oehm - what vars ?
19:23 < jsaw> rxr: we have to finish "input", before hotplug++ is on level of rockplug
19:23 < jsaw> rxr: Makefile 
19:23 < rxr> (and we need to have s.th. like this macio fake think for my iBook ...
19:23 < rxr> )
19:24 < rxr> though I might sell the iBook on ebay - but thats another thing ...
19:24 < rxr> needs to work regardless
19:24 < jsaw> :)
19:24 < rxr> what is the scsi and input hotplug thing suppost to do ?
19:24 < jsaw> so what's about the INSTALL thing, where can I put those Makefile variables, could you put them into embeddedSTL/Rules ?
19:25 < rxr> no - do not touch embeddedSTL
19:25 < jsaw> rxr: scsi devices generate hotplug events for the type of device
19:25 < rxr> just touch the hotplug++ Makefile for now I would day
19:25 < rxr> say
19:25 < jsaw> rxr: input is stuff like mouse to touchpad
19:25 < jsaw> or joystick
19:25 < rxr> I want to rework the exactMake and exactConfig stuff anyway ... and until then just adding custom install stuff to the hotplug++ Makefile is favourable
19:26 < rxr> jsaw: I know - I just wondered what to do there ...
19:26 < rxr> but I see - loading sd_mod or so ...
19:26 < jsaw> yep
19:26 < rxr> I fear we could use that for ide as well
19:26 < rxr> hm - is there any point for such loads ?
19:26 < jsaw> ?
19:26 < rxr> ide-cd and co ...
19:27 < jsaw> hm
19:27 < rxr> but I do not know off-hand in which order one gets the events ...
19:27 < jsaw> does IDE generate events?
19:27 < rxr> I think so / I hope so
19:28 < jsaw> never heard of this....
19:28 < rxr> leave it as it is util we hear about that then
19:28 < rxr> but is that scsi module loading really useful ?
19:28 < rxr> I mean when do you get those events
19:29 < rxr> when you modload usb-storage and plug a device in (or vice versa) - do you get events that would allow us loading the scsi sd module ?
19:29 < jsaw> currently I do not use it, but some time back it was important to me on another box
19:30 < jsaw> rxr: I don't know how much stuff goes through the scsi layer...
19:30 < rxr> well - of course automatically loading the modules that are needed is handy - right now I load all scsi and ide base subsystem stuff in the boot initrd to make sure they are available for the rootfs ...
19:30 < rxr> but if we could leave out that code and let hotplug++ load the subsystem modules required for the ide / scsi adapters found would be very clean
19:31 < jsaw> actually all IDE stuff should be loaded by PCI subsystem
19:31 < rxr> # well some hardcoded help for now ...
19:31 < rxr> modprobe ide-disk
19:31 < rxr> modprobe ide-cd
19:31 < rxr> modprobe sd_mod
19:31 < rxr> modprobe sr_mod
19:31 < rxr> /sbin/initrdinit
19:32 < jsaw> hm, not sure, but doesn't ide-cd interfere with cdrtools?
19:32 < rxr> ide cd is no scsi emulation
19:32 < jsaw> ic
19:32 < rxr> it is needed to access cds ...
19:32 < rxr> it is not ide-scsi ...
19:32 < rxr> which is broken and deprecated in 2.6
19:34 < jsaw> I wonder if udev could be trained to load those modules... udev should actually now, this is a disk and that a cd..
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19:43 < minto> hi all
19:43 < rxr> hi minto !
19:44 < minto> hey rxr, how was/is your vacation?
19:44 < rxr> it was hot ,-)
19:44 < jsaw> hi minto 
19:44 < rxr> I'm in berlin right now - a few days earlier than expected ,-)
19:44 < minto> Why earlier?
19:45 < minto> maybe too hot?
19:45 < rxr> too hot and too many mosquitos and I^Wwe wanted to see berlin again
19:45 < minto> aha, homesick!
19:47 < rxr> hehe
19:49 < mnemoc> you will get malaria being at berlin :p
19:49 < minto> mnemoc: we will soon notice when we look at the commit graph in the comming days if he has fever ;-)
19:50 < minto> many commits is hight fever 
19:50 < mnemoc> :D
19:50 < minto> yuck, I ran out of diskspace
19:51 < rxr> should I ship a 40GB used IBM to you ?
19:51 < minto> 1755 builds total, 868 completed fine, 55 with errors. with 97% 
19:51 < minto> rxr: I still have the 1.2 Tb in noisy
19:52  * mnemoc also needs more disk space urgently
19:52 < minto> But since I have a new job I hardly get to starting it up
19:52 < minto> so only the other quiet box  is available.
19:54 < rxr> minto: congrats then - nice to hear
19:54 < mnemoc> minto: did noisy finished it's builds?
19:55 < minto> Downside is that I hardly have any time for T2 :(
19:55 < mnemoc> rxr: gsmp's rsync doesn't support --partial-dir :\
19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: I can emerge a new one
19:55 < mnemoc> rxr: next time :)
20:04 < rxr> rsync emerging
20:04 < rxr> hat to recechout t2 on the new disk ...
20:05 < minto> Oh, mnemoc: When I get home I only have 30 minutes left to start up and shutdown noisy. So I haven't started it the whole week :(
20:05 < mnemoc> minto: :'(
20:05 < minto> I can start it tomorrow :)
20:05 < mnemoc> minto: take it to your working place :)
20:06 < CIA-9> rene * r10831 /trunk/package/audio/xmms-winamp-x-theme/ (5 files): 
20:06 < CIA-9> * added xmms-winamp-x-theme (1.01) - because I find the default xmms
20:06 < CIA-9>  theme quite unatractive and dark and this is a nice theme - slightly
20:06 < CIA-9>  patched colors to make the selections visible ...
20:06 < minto> :) They would complain about the noise, they already complain about a radio
20:07 < mnemoc> with noisy they wont hear the radio :p
20:07 < rxr> == 08/05/05 20:07:41 =[9]=> Finished building package rsync.
20:07 < rxr> == 20:04:19 =[9]=> Building network/rsync [2.6.5 2.2.0-alpha].
20:08 < rxr> mnemoc: I love your way to think positive ,-)
20:08 < rxr> so /me off in some minutes
20:08 < minto> But to reduce travel (it took me 2 hours to get home today), I am considering renting something close and I wanne take Pauline and Merlyn with me. If so I could leave noisy on the whole midweek, for you guys :)
20:09 < mnemoc> :)
20:09 < rxr> minto: in which city is your new work ?
20:09 < rxr> and what do you have to do there btw. ?
20:09 < minto> Meppel
20:10 < minto> 150 km drive :(
20:10 < mnemoc> train?
20:10 < mnemoc> driving 300km daily is not good for your back
20:10 < minto> train is possible but takes 2 hours as well
20:10 < minto> I have to do Java J2EE :)
20:11 < mnemoc> yuck^3
20:11 < minto> I know you guys yuck java
20:11 < mnemoc> minto: have you tried java moz plugin from our sun-jre-142 on firefox?
20:11 < minto> nope
20:12 < mnemoc> brbr
20:12 < mnemoc> brb
20:12 < mnemoc> %cyborg minto
20:12 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: M.I.N.T.O.: Machine Intended for Nocturnal Troubleshooting and Observation
20:12 < mnemoc> good
20:12 < mnemoc> bye ;)
20:13 < minto> I do lots of trouble shooting and observation too :D
20:13 < mnemoc> :)
20:13 < minto> But me no machine bleep bleep
20:13 < minto> mnemoc: why cuborg?
20:13 < minto> cyborg
20:13 < mnemoc> %help cyborg
20:13 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: (cyborg [<name>]) -- Returns a cyborg acronym for <name> from <http://www.cyborgname.com/>. If <name> is not specified, uses that of the user.
20:14 < mnemoc> just for relaxing purposes
20:14 < minto> hehe funny
20:16 < sepp_> %help 42
20:16 <@vilkacis> sepp_: Error: There is no command "42".
20:16 < sepp_> :(
20:16 < minto> %cyborg 42
20:16 < mnemoc> %list
20:16 <@vilkacis> mnemoc: AcronymFinder, Admin, Channel, Config, CyborgName, Filter, Misc, Owner, Services, Topic, and User
20:16 <@vilkacis> minto: Error: timed out
20:16 < sepp_> hi all :)
20:17 < mnemoc> bye sepp_ 
20:17 < minto> hi sepp
20:18 < sepp_> hi minto, mnemoc 
21:07 < CIA-9> msluis * r10832 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.2.3-4 -> 6.2.3-5)
21:17 < CIA-9> msluis * r10833 /trunk/misc/archive/Update.sh: * Added additional arguments test + added comments.
21:21 < CIA-9> msluis * r10834 /trunk/package/gnustep/gorm/gorm.desc: * updated gorm (0.9.2 -> 0.9.10)
21:25 < CIA-9> msluis * r10835 /trunk/package/network/scmxx/scmxx.desc: * updated scmxx (0.7.4 -> 0.8.0)
21:28 < CIA-9> msluis * r10836 /trunk/package/network/micq/micq.desc: * updated micq (0.4.12 -> 0.5.0.4)
21:29 < CIA-9> msluis * r10837 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/dhcp.desc: * updated dhcp (3.0.2 -> 3.0.3)
21:31 < CIA-9> msluis * r10838 /trunk/package/network/ypserv/ypserv.desc: * updated ypserv (2.17 -> 2.18)
21:31 < CIA-9> msluis * r10839 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (0.9.3 -> 0.9.4)
21:36 < CIA-9> msluis * r10840 /trunk/package/perl/perl-glib/perl-glib.desc: * updated perl-glib (1.082 -> 1.093)
21:36 < CIA-9> msluis * r10841 /trunk/package/perl/perl-gtk2/perl-gtk2.desc: * updated perl-gtk2 (1.082 -> 1.093)
21:37 < CIA-9> msluis * r10842 /trunk/package/gnome2/libidl/libidl.desc: * updated libidl (0.8.5 -> 0.8.6)
21:38 < CIA-9> msluis * r10843 /trunk/package/gnome2/pango/pango.desc: * updated pango (1.8.1 -> 1.8.2)
21:39 < CIA-9> msluis * r10844 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.desc: * updated gtkmm (2.6.3 -> 2.6.4)
21:39 < mnemoc> now minto has fever
21:39 < CIA-9> msluis * r10845 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-engines/gtk-engines.desc: * updated gtk-engines (2.6.3 -> 2.6.4)
21:39 < sepp_> haha
21:39 < minto> to many musquitos :D
21:39 < mnemoc> :)
21:39 < sepp_> wow
21:40 < minto> These were all updates I did over a week ago. 
21:40 < minto> No I verify if they have actually built.
21:41 < CIA-9> msluis * r10846 /trunk/package/games/freeciv/freeciv.desc: * updated freeciv (2.0.1 -> 2.0.4)
21:41 < CIA-9> msluis * r10847 /trunk/package/gnome2/metacity/metacity.desc: * updated metacity (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3)
21:42 < _Ragnar__> ouch ;)
21:42 < CIA-9> msluis * r10848 /trunk/package/gnome2/libwnck/libwnck.desc: * updated libwnck (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3)
21:42 < mnemoc> gnome 2.10.3?
21:43 < minto> Oeps
21:45 < minto> These gnome packages did built over here. Shouldn't I update them?
21:55 < minto> df --> 100% /home/t2
21:55 < minto> :(
21:56 < mnemoc> :(
21:56 < mnemoc> minto: send to truck
22:03 < minto> truck?
22:03 < mnemoc> minto: and trunk
22:03 < minto> send what?
22:03 < mnemoc> gnome 2.10.3
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22:04 < mnemoc> i have as issue 2.10.2 for 2.1.0, but if .3 is out i would prefer that one
22:04 < minto> I already send all update gnome packages I had
22:04 < minto> I could update other packages tomorrow
22:05 < minto> Now I am updating all package updates I have lying around
22:05 < minto> Although some of them won't build :(
22:05 < minto> I commit only the one that do build :)
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22:06 < CIA-9> msluis * r10849 /trunk/package/x11/fvwm/fvwm.desc: * updated fvwm (2.4.19 -> 2.5.13)
22:11 < minto> only 12 still pending :)
22:11 < jsaw> rxr still around?
22:12 < minto> hi jsaw, he left a while ago, I think
22:18 < CIA-9> msluis * r10850 /trunk/package/emulators/simh/simh.conf: * modified simh to use new automatic zip extraction.
22:20 < minto> Okay, that's it for today. Sleep well all and cu tomorrow :)
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23:12 < keinek> hi
23:22 < sepp_> hi keinek, wassup :)
23:23 < keinek> :)
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