--- Log opened Sun Jul 31 00:00:00 2005 00:29 < Shingo--> what exactly does this option "Smart optimisation using a profile database"? 00:34 < mnemoc> clifford did a database profiling different optimization for different packages 00:34 < mnemoc> that optimization claims to use the best options for each package 00:38 < Shingo--> and that already included in BS? 00:38 < Shingo--> I have to just check this option? 00:38 < mnemoc> i wouldn't use it 00:41 < Shingo--> why? 00:44 < Shingo--> somebody have to update freshmeat informations from project. 00:44 < Shingo--> r2 isn't the last stable version? 00:45 < mnemoc> rc2 hasn't been announced yet 00:45 < mnemoc> rc1 is the last official stable version 00:45 < mnemoc> we need to get the iso-s ready and downloadable before announcing 00:47 < mnemoc> .oO( we do i always write freshmeant.net?? )o 00:55 < Shingo--> :-) 00:55 < Shingo--> do you know the name of script to fetch program and create package skel? 00:57 < mnemoc> misc/archive/newpackage 01:04 < Shingo--> I don't have this script. 01:05 < Shingo--> $(dialog --version 2>&1| grep -c "0.9") 01:05 < Shingo--> how to make this line detect 0.9 >? 01:06 < mnemoc> uhm 01:06 < mnemoc> it's better to extract the version on test it on a case 01:24 < Shingo--> sh misc/archive/newpackage.sh package/gnomefiles/gcb http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~cp76/gcb/gcb-0.2.8.tar.bz2 01:24 < Shingo--> it's ok? 01:25 < mnemoc> gnomefiles?? 01:25 < mnemoc> anyway, it's only repo/pkg 01:25 < mnemoc> not packages/repo/pkg 01:26 -!- I_Ramirez [~I_Ramirez@200.72.179.234] has joined #t2 01:27 < I_Ramirez> jajajaja XD 01:28 < Shingo--> but it's appears works. 01:28 < Shingo--> what is repo exactly? 01:30 < mnemoc> Shingo--: the name of the repository where you want to place the package 01:31 < Shingo--> whatever I want? 01:31 < Shingo--> what is criteria to that name? 01:31 < mnemoc> Shingo--: use which already exist inside package/ 01:32 < Shingo--> ok, but how to choose? 01:33 < mnemoc> according to what the package does 01:33 < mnemoc> or where other similar packages live 01:35 -!- I_Ramirez [~I_Ramirez@200.72.179.234] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:44 -!- Manuel_Cace [~Manuel_Ca@pc-83-201-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #t2 01:51 < keinek> hola 01:52 < mnemoc> hi keinek 01:52 < keinek> hi mnemoc 01:57 -!- Manuel_Cace [~Manuel_Ca@pc-83-201-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit ["PloneIrcChat: quit"] 01:59 -!- Manuel_Cace [~Manuel_Ca@pc-83-201-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #t2 01:59 -!- Manuel_Cace [~Manuel_Ca@pc-83-201-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has left #t2 [] 03:20 < Shingo--> mnemoc: look 03:20 < Shingo--> http://www.mercadodepublicidade.com.br/~shingo/t2-system/ 03:20 < Shingo--> may you help me again? 03:28 < Shingo--> did you see that? 03:28 < Shingo--> *** Your Qt installation does not support multi-threading! *** Avifile will be compiled - however it might crash mysteriously *** Instalation of threaded Qt library version (qt-mt) is recommended *** When rebuilding Qt use configure option '-thread'. 03:28 < Shingo--> how to create qt with thread? 04:08 < Shingo--> the BS don't detects fftw3 depend from jamin, I guess fftw3 is audacity depend too. 04:15 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.72] has joined #t2 04:29 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, valentin, keinek, _Ragnar_, karasz, sepp, mtr, nzg, Shingo--, ojh, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 04:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: sepp, mtr, dsoul, valentin, _Ragnar_, nzg 04:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: CIA-9 04:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jsaw 04:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: karasz, ojh, Shingo--, keinek 05:06 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AFB38B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 05:21 < Shingo--> mnemoc_: hi, did you see my early messages? 05:22 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AFA5ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:46 < Shingo--> hello!!! 06:32 -!- Shingo-- [~shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 06:32 -!- Shingo-- [~shingo@mercantile.wb.com.br] has joined #t2 06:32 < Shingo--> hello! 09:40 -!- karasz [~chatzilla@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:43 < sepp> hello 09:50 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.213.71.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:03 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-98-244.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 10:08 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.218.234.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:56 -!- bfg [~bfg@chello080109010143.16.14.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 10:56 < bfg> good morning 11:04 < bfg> i have a question, i found in the *.cache files the packages kaxtv and perl-cwd, but they don't exist int the package-tree, does anyone knoew waht happened with them? 11:06 -!- Veki [~veki@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 11:06 < Veki> hi 11:22 < Veki> I tried to download hddtemp, pine, transset,xlockmore files with ./scripts/Download..., but iw as prompted that there are checkcum errors. the same happened yesterday 13:41 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 13:58 -!- Veki [~veki@217.24.19.40] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:57 < sepp_> bfg: "r9920* removed kaxtv because it's part of kaffeine now" 15:58 < bfg> how reliable are the *.cache files?, how do they get updated? 15:58 < bfg> it seems, that the dependencies in the *.cache file are not up to date... 15:59 < sepp_> maybe someone forgot to update it 15:59 < sepp_> they are updated manually... 16:00 < bfg> i also found some linux24-src and linux24-header (and some others) as deps in various cache-files, it seems, they got very rarely updated 16:00 < sepp_> uhm 16:00 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 16:01 < bfg> are these deps created from a special build? eg. a desktop build, or are they from a generic build? 16:01 < sepp> from the reference build 16:16 < keinek> hi 16:16 < sepp> hi keinek 16:27 < bfg> another question, you sent me the svn-log message before (r9920)... is there an easy way to search for svn logmessages or just have a look into the Changelog 16:30 < sepp> you can use svn log 16:30 < bfg> thank you 16:31 < sepp> e.g. svn log package/foo 16:47 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.245.117] has joined #t2 17:12 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 17:21 -!- Veki [~veki@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 17:24 < Veki> hi 17:38 < mnemoc> hi 17:39 < Veki> I am trying to buil ddesktop target but I have always problme downloading packages sch as pine, transset,dvdb,hddterm,xclockmore since they do have cheksumerrors. Doe server have any issues? 17:45 < mnemoc> delete the cksum-err files and re-download 17:47 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.245.117] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:50 < keinek> hi mnemoc 17:50 < keinek> :) 17:50 < keinek> you know how i can make call by phone with linux like in windows with the dialer? 17:54 < mnemoc> no idea 17:55 < Veki> mnemoc: I have done that and the same happens during download. It always report on cheksum errors during dowbnload 17:55 < mnemoc> Veki: what mirror? 17:55 < mnemoc> Veki: try from mine 17:56 < Veki> I tired with mirror and the main site and it happens the same 17:56 < mnemoc> paste me the error please 18:00 < Veki> how can I trie from yours 18:02 < mnemoc> what version of t2? 18:03 < Veki> 2.1. rc2 18:03 < Veki> I trioed again and it is the same 18:03 < mnemoc> inside download/Mirror write: http://www.geeks.cl/t2-mirror/2.1.0-rc2 2.1.0-rc2 18:08 < Veki> mnemoc: it sasy that download from mirror failed and it went to original server and again the same error 18:09 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/mirror/2.1.0-rc2 18:09 < mnemoc> err 18:09 < mnemoc> uhm 18:09 < mnemoc> rc2 or rc3? 18:10 < mnemoc> Veki: paste me on query or http://pastebin.ca the whole error please 18:11 < Veki> should I do svn up and try again 18:14 < mnemoc> branches/2.1 is rc3 18:14 < mnemoc> tags/2.1.0-rc2 is rc2 18:15 < Veki> I am doing svn up and i will try again afterwards 18:18 < CIA-9> amery * r10762 /trunk/package/zope/zope/zope.desc: * updated zope (2.8.0 -> 2.8.1b1) 18:22 < Shingo--> hi 18:23 < mnemoc> hi 18:24 < Veki> mnemoc: It downloads fine after svn up 18:24 < mnemoc> good 18:24 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktop 18:24 < mnemoc> Error logs from desktop-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium-mmx-desktop: 18:24 < mnemoc> 677 builds total, 620 completed fine, 0 with errors. 18:25 < Shingo--> mnemoc: shall I update my source? I'm using 2.1-r2. 18:26 < mnemoc> r_c_2 18:26 < mnemoc> Shingo--: are you using the tag or the branch? 18:26 < Shingo--> branch 18:28 < mnemoc> it should be ok 18:31 < Shingo--> my modification stay, right? 18:31 < Shingo--> svn: Failed to add file 'package/base/m4/m4.conf': object of the same name already exists. 18:32 < Shingo--> I have to remove this file? 18:33 < mnemoc> yes, the local one is obstructing the add from server 18:49 < Shingo--> I was listen Lois Armstrong, and think to my self what wonderful T2 world. :-) 18:49 < Shingo--> Updated to revision 10762. :-) 18:50 < mnemoc> :) 18:54 < Shingo--> can I rename the build/system*r2, almost ready, to new name? 19:00 < mnemoc> yes 19:00 < mnemoc> btw, r2 means release 2 and rc2 release _candidate_ 2 19:05 < Shingo--> i know, thanks. :-) 19:05 < Shingo--> Then, what's the propose the name "build/$config-t2-arch-optimization-target/"? 19:05 < Shingo--> why to include t2 version on build name? 19:05 < Shingo--> Am I clear? 19:07 < Shingo--> "build/$config-$t2version-$arch-$optimization-$target/" :) 19:07 < mnemoc> not sure 19:07 < mnemoc> not sure why we add the version 19:08 < mnemoc> yes, that is SDECFG_VERSION 19:08 < mnemoc> it's defined at the end of config/$config/config 19:10 < Shingo--> but, if I change that value the Config don't will change again? 19:10 < mnemoc> yes 19:11 < mnemoc> Config generates that 19:11 < mnemoc> you have to adapt your build dir to what Config wants 19:11 -!- Veki [~veki@217.24.19.40] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:12 -!- Veki [~veki@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 19:17 < Shingo--> ok. 19:17 < Shingo--> But really necessary Config create build dir that way? 19:17 < Shingo--> if no difference, change version name on build dir, Config is making "foolish" SDECFG_ID. 19:17 < Shingo--> Don't you think? 19:17 < Shingo--> Sorry, if I told a "foolish". 19:25 < mnemoc> Config is making that SDECFG_ID because that was defined more than 6 years ago 19:26 < mnemoc> you can discuss the removal of version with rene when he returns 19:28 < mnemoc> Shingo--: another thing you can do if you don't wnat rename your build dir is to change sdever on scripts/parse-config 19:28 < mnemoc> Shingo--: so your 2.1 stay at rc2 19:31 < Shingo--> I run /Config before. :-) I guess it's revolve, Config always rewrite with new file from your configuration up to memory? 19:31 < mnemoc> yep 19:32 < Shingo--> " T2 2.1.0-rc3 Config File" :) 19:33 < Shingo--> "what wonderful T2 world". :) 19:33 -!- Veki [~veki@217.24.19.40] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:46 * mnemoc thinking in adding T2 plugins to pida 19:54 < Shingo--> mnemoc: can you read my old regression report please? libsvg-cairo don't add [E] automatic, and my adding don't affect anything. 19:56 < mnemoc> [E] doesn't have any effect 19:58 < mnemoc> it's just referencial for maintainers 19:58 < mnemoc> the used dependencies are which are on .cache file 19:58 < mnemoc> what's the location of your regressions report? 20:05 < Shingo--> http://www.mercadodepublicidade.com.br/~shingo/t2-system/ 20:05 < Shingo--> the new report will be generate. 20:06 < Shingo--> already new. :-) 20:07 < mnemoc> don't add [E] tags 20:09 < mnemoc> libzvbi was not downloaded 20:10 < mnemoc> Shingo--: gcb? 20:11 < mnemoc> Shingo--: you have to review it's Makefile to see what does it use for PREFIX 20:11 < Shingo--> ok. 20:11 < mnemoc> Shingo--: and using var_append makeopt and makeinstopt give PREFIX=/$prefix 20:11 < mnemoc> Shingo--: so it doesn't install the files on /usr/local 20:13 < Shingo--> avifile is the worse part as far I can see. I don't understand nothing, qt was build with -thread 20:13 < mnemoc> Shingo--: vazaar needs gtkmozembed, add it with that name on gnome2 20:15 < Shingo--> how to add theses dependencies? .cache? 20:15 < Shingo--> shall I create that file by the hand? 20:15 < mnemoc> .cache files are generated 20:16 < mnemoc> after you build it you will get var/adm/cache/$pkg 20:16 < mnemoc> copy it to package/*/$pkg/$pkg.cache 20:18 < Shingo--> [BUILDTIME] 693 (5) ERROR 20:18 < Shingo--> this remains? 20:20 < mnemoc> Shingo--: rebuild it 20:21 < Shingo--> when rebuild is ready, then a will make a new copy? that right? 20:21 < mnemoc> yep 20:26 < Shingo--> I need to run Config before build if I change config/$config/pkgsel by hand? 20:27 < Shingo--> before Build-Target. 20:27 < mnemoc> yes 20:27 < mnemoc> but -oldconfig 20:27 < mnemoc> to bypass the UI 20:27 < Shingo--> thanks. :-) 20:27 < mnemoc> bbl 20:27 < mnemoc> good luck :) 20:28 < mnemoc> svn add your new packages so regressions report show us the diff 20:28 < mnemoc> cu 20:33 < Shingo--> cairo don't depends from libsvg-cairo? 20:43 < Shingo--> I have to make a patch how to proceed? 20:44 < sepp> patch what? 20:46 < Shingo--> the file from original author, he use own configure script. 20:47 < Shingo--> your Makefile has a var BASEDIR, there's a way to override this var? 20:48 < sepp> make a some_meaning_name.patch and put it into the package dir 20:50 < Shingo--> I have tried 20:50 < Shingo--> var_append makeinstopt and makeopt, with ' ' 'BASEDIR=/usr' 20:50 < Shingo--> but don't work. 20:52 -!- ojh [~omer@67-42-182-86.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 20:57 < Shingo--> what right sintax diff to create a patch? 20:59 < sepp> e.g. diff -ur orig_dir patched_dir > some.patch 21:06 < bfg> hi, currently i have some troubles compiling udev (bootdisk-target). There are some problems with dietlibc. As far as I know, all dietlibc packages are compiled statically. How about compiling udev against the bundeled klibc?. It is also quite small, and there are know compile problems with it. 21:07 < bfg> Or is there any absolute preference to dietlibc? 21:08 < bfg> I've forgotten to say, that i'm trying t2-trunk. 21:10 < Shingo--> my patch don't work, I guess it's a trivial thing. 21:10 < Shingo--> missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch 21:10 < Shingo--> can't find file to patch at input line 3 21:10 < Shingo--> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? 21:10 < Shingo--> The text leading up to this was: 21:10 < Shingo--> -------------------------- 21:10 < Shingo--> |--- Makefile 2004-05-06 03:39:27.000000000 -0300 21:10 < Shingo--> |+++ Makefile.new 2005-07-31 15:58:55.000000000 -0300 21:10 < Shingo--> -------------------------- 21:10 < Shingo--> No file to patch. Skipping patch. 21:13 < sepp> no Makefile.new 21:22 < Shingo--> I change Makefile.new to Makefile and don't work. 21:23 < sepp> patch -p1 < something.patch has to apply 21:24 < Shingo--> I don't understand, where I have to put that? 21:28 < sepp> in the base dir, patch -p1 < some.patch has to work 21:30 < sepp> or -p0 outside of the source directory 21:35 < Shingo--> ok, but how to control this behavior? the system apply the patch automatic. 21:35 < Shingo--> sepp: ? 21:55 < sepp> e.g. you have a dir. foo_orig and a dir foo (with some patches made in it) you run something like "diff -Naur foo_orig foo > foo.patch" 22:15 -!- rxr [rene@e178166177.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 22:15 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 22:15 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jul 27 20:43:09 2005] 22:15 [Users #t2] 22:15 [ _Ragnar_] [ dsoul ] [ mnemoc] [ ojh ] [ sepp ] 22:15 [ bfg ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Shingo--] 22:15 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin] 22:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 22:15 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 22:15 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 22:15 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 22:17 < sepp> Shingo--: it should be "+++ gcb-0.2.8/Makefile" not just Makefile 22:17 < sepp> the file to patch ... 22:20 < Shingo--> the system is now wrong. 22:21 < Shingo--> there is no file in /usr/local/bin :( 22:22 < sepp> ? 22:22 < Shingo--> wait 22:24 < Shingo--> look gcb package http://www.mercadodepublicidade.com.br/~shingo/t2-system/ 22:26 < sepp> you have a old flist in build/*/http://www.mercadodepublicidade.com.br/~shingo/t2-system/ 22:26 < sepp> damn paste 22:26 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178191016.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:26 < sepp> you have a old flist in build/*/var/adm/flists/ 22:30 < Shingo--> yes. :) 22:36 < mnemoc> rehi 22:37 < Shingo--> how to resolve the 22:37 < Shingo--> configure.in file: 22:37 < Shingo--> pkg_modules="... mozilla-gtkmozembed ..." 22:37 < Shingo--> how to test conditionally if has installed mozilla-gtkmozembed or firefox-gtkmozembed? 22:38 < mnemoc> .oO( what are you doing? )o 22:39 < sepp> hi mnemoc 22:39 < mnemoc> hi sepp 22:42 < Shingo--> the package vazaar, test is mozilla-gtkmozembed is installed, so pkg-config returns error. but with firefox-gtkmozembed works ok. a have same problem when I have installed this package on gentoo. 22:44 < mnemoc> and you want to patch it to use firefox's if mozilla is not installed? 22:45 < Shingo--> that's it. :) 22:45 < mnemoc> if ! pkginstalled mozilla; then 22:45 < mnemoc> var_append patchfiles ' ' $confdir/use_firefox_gtkmozembed.diff 22:45 < mnemoc> fi 22:46 < Shingo--> :) 22:46 < mnemoc> with use_firefox_gtkmozembed.diff as a -p1 u patch 22:48 < sepp> Shingo--: btw if you use "var_append makeinstopt ' ' "BASEDIR=$root/usr"" in gcb.conf you need no patch :) 22:48 < mnemoc> BASEDIR=$root/$prefix :) 22:48 < sepp> yes 22:48 < sepp> :) 22:49 < Shingo--> no need .conf in gcb :-) 22:49 < mnemoc> you should only patch when there is no other soluction 22:50 < sepp> stupid me i always forget $prefix 22:50 < mnemoc> :) 22:53 < sepp> hmm gcb -> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 22:53 < sepp> :( 22:53 < mnemoc> a? 22:54 < CIA-9> amery * r10763 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.conf: * changed postgresql to build perl and python languages 22:58 < sepp> what does "a?" means? 22:58 < mnemoc> nothing 22:58 < sepp> :) 23:05 < sepp> .oO( there is the gtk+ heisenbug again )o 23:05 < sepp> gcb works if you enable debug symbols in gtk+ 23:05 < CIA-9> amery * r10764 /trunk/package/textproc/pdfjam/ (pdfjam.conf pdfjam.desc): * added copyright note to pdfjam 23:07 < mnemoc> sepp: we can't force users to have bloated-gtk+ just because gcb wants that 23:09 < sepp> mnemoc: i just looked at the bt from the core dump and i thought i saw this already 23:09 < mnemoc> ic 23:11 < sepp> k3d (a 3d app like blender) has the same problem 23:11 < sepp> i wanted to debug this but with debug symbols ... 23:12 < mnemoc> :) 23:13 < sepp> some parts of the deprecated gtk stuff are broken 23:14 < sepp> who knows 23:14 < mnemoc> gtk12? 23:15 < sepp> no deprecated/old parts in gtk+ 2 23:15 < mnemoc> ic 23:16 < Shingo--> what is the right way? 23:16 < Shingo--> change configure.in and regenerate configure? change both? change only configure.in and run autogen.sh? 23:16 < Shingo--> it's for patch. 23:16 < mnemoc> depends on how big the patch gets 23:17 < mnemoc> usually you need more changes on configure than on configure.in 23:18 < mnemoc> but if the change is small anyway, patch configure 23:18 < Shingo--> that it, on gentoo I make wrong, I have tested, if I change configure.in and run autogen.sh, the configure goes to the end. 23:19 < mnemoc> instead of calling autogen.sh set autogen=1 on .conf 23:24 < Shingo--> :) 23:58 < Shingo--> what is the usually AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT value? maybe glib-gettextize? --- Log closed Mon Aug 01 00:00:00 2005