--- Log opened Mon Jul 25 00:00:00 2005
00:01 < sepp> anyway in dresden are so many free flats ...
00:17 < sepp> i will hide now too, good night *
00:17 < Veki> good night sepp
00:17 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp 
00:19 < Veki> mnemoc: building of generic target ehn optimisation is put for Pentium 3 gies well so far. It is in stage 5 right now
00:19 < Veki> so, problem with gcc that I have had last night was when optimization wa snot specified
00:23 < morfoh> night sepp 
00:23 < morfoh> sleep well
00:25 < mnemoc> Veki: can you file an issue regarding this problem building optimization-less config?
00:27 < Veki> ok, should I put that on trac or somewhere else
00:28 < mnemoc> trac
00:28 < Veki> OK, sould I put also some lines from error.log file there?
00:28 < mnemoc> i guess we should disable optimization-less config
00:28 < mnemoc> the stage, the package and the error produced by gcc
00:29 < Veki> hm, yes, and even if there are some variations target should work fine
00:50 < Veki> mnemoc. I am puuting right now ticket for error that I have seen
00:53 < Veki> done
00:59 < mnemoc> thanks
01:01 < CIA-9> amery * r10670 /branches/2.1/package/perl/perl-libintl/ (5 files): * merged 10661 from trunk: added perl-libintl (1.11) - runtime dependency of dvdrip
01:04 < Veki> mnemoc: OK, :)
01:05 < Veki> mnemoc:  I have to sleep now, it is 1.05 AM here and I have to wake up early
01:05 < Veki> cu 
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06:33 < _Ragnar_> wtf????
06:33 < _Ragnar_> I so hate the 2.6 devels
06:37 < _Ragnar_> kernel doesn't even install without udev any more, and udev packages fails because it doesn't like dietlibc ... *grrr* rxr_, why can't we make that shitty dietlibc optional? O_O
06:42 < _Ragnar_> </rant>
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08:31 < minto> moin
09:01 < CIA-9> msluis * r10671 /trunk/package/ (10 files in 10 dirs): * set package license to the newly added APL (The Apache License)
09:59 < CIA-9> msluis * r10672 /trunk/package/base/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20050719 -> 20050724)
10:00 < sepp> moin
10:02 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10673 /trunk/package/audio/hydrogen/ (hydrogen.desc no_update-menus.patch string.patch): * updated hydrogen (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
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10:15 < morfoh> hi minto, sepp :)
10:15 < minto> hi morfoh
10:19 < sepp> hi morfoh 
10:35 < morfoh> .oO( head shot! excelent! you splattered innocent's brain )o
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10:36 < karasz> hello guys
10:36 < karasz> parrot is back in biz :)
10:37 < morfoh> hi karasz 
10:37 < karasz> got a brand new err.log for you guys...
10:37 < karasz> hi morfoh 
10:37 < karasz> http://www.x5.ro/upload/fis/0-flex.err
10:37 < karasz> anyone cares to take a look?
10:38 < karasz> and by the way, i guess i'm being hookd...
10:39 < karasz> last night i dreamt abt patching again check-system... !?
10:39 < karasz> check system does not check for autoconf....
10:40 < karasz> should it or i just dream rubbish?
10:44 < karasz> so?
10:47 < morfoh> karasz: what target and t2 version did you used ?
10:48 < karasz> target bootdisk
10:49 < karasz> version i did a svn co for t2 stable
10:49 < karasz> but i guess i ended up with rc2
10:49 < karasz> i looked over the err log
10:50 < karasz> and i have some questions
10:50 < karasz> 1 why did it say in one place that bison is not found and in the other that it is found?
10:50 < karasz> 2. tests 31 passed 7 failed where can i found that output?
10:55 < morfoh> karasz: anyway ... you should prefer rc2 over "stable"
10:55 < karasz> question 3 abt check system...
10:55 < karasz> how important are the explanations that echo gives?
10:56 < morfoh> karasz: sometimes there are problems during cross-compiling to determine the right tools afaik
10:56 < karasz> could it be just program xxx not found please download the last version op program xxx?
10:56 < morfoh> karasz: I'll start a boot disk target here too ... to reproduce the problem 
10:57 < karasz> you found the problem?
10:57 < karasz> i maybe lack some utilities..
11:07 < morfoh> karasz: flex was successfully build here in stage 0
11:07 < morfoh> no modifications
11:21 < karasz> just try a rebuild?
11:24 < morfoh> run ./scripts/Cleanup -full -build ./build/YOURTARGET before
11:25 < morfoh> the start a fresh build please
11:25 < karasz> ./build/YOURTARGET ?
11:25 < karasz> not -cfg YOURTARGET?
11:25 < karasz> ofcourse...
11:26 < karasz> it means the directory not the config file
11:26 < karasz> right?
11:27 < karasz> :D
11:28 < karasz> arghhh!
11:28 < morfoh> yes
11:28 < karasz> loking for temp files
11:29 < karasz> removing my prescious Check_System_New.sh :(
11:29 < karasz> nothing else
11:29 < karasz> done in 1 sec, is this ok?
11:38 < karasz> still fails on flex...
11:38 < morfoh> karasz: have you done any special configuration options ?
11:39 < morfoh> karasz: or try to check out a fresh 2.1 branch 
11:43 < karasz> optimized for p3 only
11:43 < karasz> how 2.1 fresh branch?
11:45 < morfoh> karasz: svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 
11:46 < karasz> just that?
11:46 < karasz> nothing after 2.1?
11:47 < morfoh> just if you want to have a different name for the dir 
11:47 < morfoh> so it will create a dir "2.1" in the current working dir
11:47 < morfoh>  svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 foo <--- will checkout 2.1 branch localy to foo
12:04 < karasz> should i make a ./Download -all?
12:05 < karasz> how big is it?
12:06 < morfoh> karasz: ./scripts/Download -cfg foo -required 
12:06 < morfoh> will just download the needed stuuf
12:06 < morfoh> stuff
12:07 < morfoh> -all will download (as you can suggest) the whole sources for all packages
12:08 < karasz> for now i will make a very standard boot target
12:08 < karasz> no optims at all what so ever...
12:08 < morfoh> good luck :)
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12:39 < valentin> vista == Virus Infections, Spyware, Trojans, AdWare
12:39 < valentin> moin
12:39 < valentin> or Virus Inside. Switch to Apple
12:45 < valentin> cu later
13:03 < karasz> morfoh: still around?
13:05 < karasz> morfoh: ping... :D
13:09 < karasz> guys does anybody know if T2 building require 'bison' ?
13:09 < karasz> oe autoconf?
13:15 < karasz> guys...
13:21 < karasz> hmmm...
13:21 < karasz> no one around.... :(
13:25 < morfoh> karasz: pong
13:25 < morfoh> what are you doing, all "officially" supported targets should have all "batteries" included
13:27 < karasz> i am trying to make the final patch to Check_System
13:27 < karasz> and want to identify all requirements...
13:28 < karasz> also i rewrote a little the script to be more easy to add requrements...
13:28 < karasz> would you take a look at check_system_ng?
13:29 < karasz> just to see if it is worth to send to anyone (maybe mnemoc ??) to be included....
13:30 < morfoh> karasz: in fact it depends on the stage level and on the packages you want to use, to determine what you'll need to build the different parts of t2 .... 
13:30 < morfoh> karasz: just send it to mailing list please :)
13:31 < morfoh> karasz: I'll not have that much time this week
13:31 < karasz> i am talking of base requirements
13:31 < karasz> lioke gcc
13:31 < morfoh> ok ... :)
13:31 < karasz> how to send to mailinglist?
13:32 < karasz> i will take a look right now
13:32 < karasz> thanks
13:32 < morfoh> http://www.t2-project.org/contact.html
13:32 < morfoh> i think it would be wise in your case, to subscribe to the mailing list too
13:33 < morfoh> to stay "tuned" ;)
13:33 < morfoh> and all major RFC's etc. should go to ML 
13:33 < karasz> i subscribed to both of them
13:34 < morfoh> karasz: you can even use our issue tracker and filing an "enhancement request"
13:34 < karasz> but in the welcome message doesnt say where to send replies
13:34 < morfoh> and attaching you diff
13:34 < morfoh> :)
13:34 < morfoh> https://trac.t2-project.org
13:34 < karasz> i will try the mailing list since trackers i do not know yet :(
13:35 < karasz> hmm.. a lot of stuff to learn...:)
13:35 < morfoh> just file it at trac and send the link and a short note to the list
13:35 < morfoh> karasz: it's very easy to use trac
13:35 < morfoh> if you can use a browser and filling out a form 
13:36 < morfoh> just click on new ticket ... and there it goes ;)
13:39 < karasz> yep but where to atach the diff?
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13:41 < morfoh> karasz: you first have to submit the issue
13:41 < morfoh> after that you can attach a file
13:41 < morfoh> ok this is a bit complicated ... but I don't had time to examine that issue yet
13:42 < karasz> ok
13:42 < morfoh> so ... it's not really a problem I think
13:42 < morfoh> ;)
13:43 < Veki> I am building generic target, but kdearts package failed and in error.log i smentioned that error is due to the INternal error: Killed program (cc1plus)
13:44 < karasz> https://trac.t2-project.org/attachment/ticket/48/diff.log?rev=&format=raw
13:45 < karasz> i should send to list ticket 48 and the link above?
13:47 < morfoh> https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/48
13:47 < morfoh> this one ;)
13:47 < morfoh> is enough :)
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13:54 < karasz> done
13:59 < Veki> I have to go, cu later
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14:21 < morfoh> cu later guys ....
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15:33 < CIA-9> msluis * r10674 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-conf.in: * Enhanced automatic javabuilds with support for custom buildfiles.
15:55 < CIA-9> msluis * r10675 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-conf.in: * added additional comments for r10674.
15:59 < CIA-9> msluis * r10676 /trunk/package/java/jakarta-bsf/ (. jakarta-bsf.conf jakarta-bsf.desc): * added Apache jakarta-bsf (2.3.0)
16:00 < CIA-9> msluis * r10677 /trunk/package/perl/mod_perl/mod_perl.desc: * set package license to the newly added APL (The Apache License)
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16:58 < CIA-9> msluis * r10678 /trunk/package/java/commons-collections/ (. commons-collections.conf commons-collections.desc): * added commons-collections (3.1) Apache Jakarta Commons Collections
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17:28 < CIA-9> msluis * r10679 /trunk/package/java/commons-logging/ (. commons-logging.conf commons-logging.desc): * added commons-logging (1.0.5-alpha1) Apache Jakarta Commons Logging
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17:36 < mnemoc> minto: what about eclipse?
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17:38 < keinek> hi
17:38 < keinek> morning
17:38 < mnemoc> hi keinek 
17:38 < morfoh> hi keinek, mnemoc 
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17:40 < mnemoc> hi mophoh
17:41 < morfoh> mnemoc: why do you write a cyrillic "r" ? ;)
17:42 < minto> hi mnemoc, morfoh and keinek and all others
17:42 < mnemoc> uhm? ccyrillic r?
17:42 < minto> mnemoc: eclispe will come
17:42 < morfoh> hey minto 
17:43 < morfoh> minto: do you integrate eclipse ?
17:43 < minto> I will give it a try when the time arrives
17:43 < morfoh> ok :)
17:43 < minto> But first I want all kind of dependencies 
17:44 < minto> I also have to set the dependancies right for all the java packages I added recently.
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17:46 < minto> The linux24 issues is solved as well :-) thanks to sepp
17:46 < minto> The UNAME_MACHINE he mentioned yesterday works.
17:46 < mnemoc> is is safe for pure 32 arches?
17:47 < minto> Now all I have to do is add it properly, but I need you guys to help.
17:47 < mnemoc> export it on architecture's parse-config   
17:48 < mnemoc> or just for linux*?
17:48 < minto> Right now I hardcoded:
17:48 < minto> UNAME_MACHINE=i586 depmod -a ...
17:48 < mnemoc> .oO
17:48 < minto> in linux24.conf
17:56 < karasz> hello guys
17:56 < karasz> morfoh: i resolvet the flex issue
17:57 < karasz> it needed bison which i have installed now
17:57 < karasz> now mine doesn't build
17:57 < karasz> say ld -lc not found
17:57 < karasz> i guess i'm still missing something
17:58 < mnemoc> run ldconfig :)
17:59 < mnemoc> minto: is it safe to add UNAME_MACHINE=$sometransformationofarch on linux*.conf for every arch?
17:59 < karasz> ldconfig no params crunched a while that returned prompt, is this ok?
18:04 < karasz> mnemoc: same error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
18:04 < minto> mnemoc: dunno if that is safe. man depmod.old says it is not intended for crossbuild but for building 64 on 32 bits and vice versa.
18:04 < minto> I wonder what happens when 32 / 32
18:05 < morfoh> karasz: do you have binutils ?
18:05 < morfoh> karasz: binutils: usr/bin/ld
18:06 < karasz> firs thing I checked :)
18:06 < morfoh> you'll need it on your host
18:06 < karasz> yes i have binutils and also libbinutils2
18:06 < morfoh> debian ?
18:06 < mnemoc> minto: try simply exporting it on architecture/parse-config for linux*
18:06 < karasz> nope
18:06 < karasz> PCLinuxOS
18:07 < karasz> Mandrake derivative by texstar
18:07 < morfoh> hmmm ... didn't hear of it before .)
18:08 < karasz> lc isn't a parameter gave to ld?
18:08 < karasz> if so maybe my ld is not working properly...
18:08 < karasz> but my guess is that i do not have some other lib packages...
18:10 < karasz> i just don't know which libs do i missed
18:12 < karasz> now i know
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18:12 < karasz> morfoh: that is a Mandrake speciffic problem
18:13 < karasz> if i can sort it out i will tell you to post a faq on t2
18:14 < mnemoc> it would be nice to solve it so we get mandrake-as-host compatible
18:15 < mnemoc> karasz: do you have glibc-devel?
18:16 < karasz> mnemoc: glibc-devel i have
18:16 < karasz> but i didn't have glibc-static-devel
18:16 < karasz> yep
18:16 < mnemoc> whatever that is, install it :)
18:16 < karasz> now it is working
18:18 < karasz> mnemoc: shamessly stolen from lfs faq
18:18 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/320334
18:19 < mnemoc> that should go to our FAQ :)
18:19 < karasz> yep
18:19 < karasz> mnemoc: should I go on with modifying Check_System or should i just drop it
18:20 < karasz> i mean is it important to you guys?
18:21 < mnemoc> karasz: Check_System needs to be rewritten to recicle code snaps, but yes, it is important
18:21 < karasz> from my point of view as a beginer it is helpfull to know that my system has all the stuff required to build T2
18:21 < karasz> recicle code snaps?
18:22 < karasz> what do you mean by that?
18:23 < mnemoc> most tests are identical but just the name of the tool change
18:23 < karasz> did you saw ticket 48 ? :)
18:23 < karasz> https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/48
18:24 < mnemoc> *click*
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18:32 < karasz> mnemoc: you were thinking of something like that?
18:34 < mnemoc> i haven't see your diff.... i'll have to download the to see
18:35 < karasz> please dld the second version
18:35 < karasz> the first has a formating issue...
18:37 < mnemoc> ok
18:38 < mnemoc> mtr_: isn't it better to symlink diet to $tooldir/bin ?
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19:01 < minto> mnemoc: Should I create x86/pkg_linux24_post.conf for it?
19:01 < mnemoc> parse-config is ok
19:02 < mnemoc> if [[ "$pkg" == linux* ]]; then ....
19:02 < mnemoc> i guess archs don't have the ability to pre/post a package.... i would need to review
19:03 < mnemoc> for y in `echo architecture/$arch/pkg_*_{pre,post}.conf`; do
19:03 < mnemoc> yes they have
19:06 < minto> So a pkg_linux24_post.conf is fine?
19:09 < karasz> guys veki is from serbia?
19:11 < morfoh> karasz: yes ... why ?
19:11 < mnemoc> minto: yes
19:12 < karasz> just asking :)
19:13 < mnemoc> minto: you need to rebuild the tools to get new pkg_*_{pre,post}.conf activated
19:14 < minto> brb, bringing Merlyn to bed
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19:20 < minto> Merlyn is in bed and noisy is down :-( However 300 package where build for 2.1 without a problem, but not package 301
19:20 < minto> Error logs from reference-32-2.1.0-rc2-x86-pentium-mmx-generic:
19:20 < minto>  [5] network/isdn4k-utils
19:20 < minto> 1625 builds total, 300 completed fine, 1 with errors.
19:20 < _Ragnar_> ugh
19:20 < mnemoc> that is known
19:21 < _Ragnar_> is the recent trunk 2.6.12.3 kernel/initrd combo supposed to boot?
19:21 < mnemoc> it runs a harfull makedev.sh
19:21 < _Ragnar_> if yes, HOW? O_O
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19:23 < morfoh> hi  Ragnar 
19:23 < _Ragnar_> hey morfoh 
19:24 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: any idea? O_O
19:26 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i'm out of sync on that part of T2
19:27 < _Ragnar_> hmm what's the last one that booted for you?
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19:29 < mnemoc> the one on 2.1
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19:29 < mnemoc> 2.6.11.12
19:30 < mnemoc> never tried the new initrd
19:30 < _Ragnar_> seems to be less then functional ;p
19:31 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: I use the current one 
19:31 < morfoh> + vserver patches
19:31 < _Ragnar_> does it boot for you?
19:31 < morfoh> I wouldn't be here if it doesn't :p
19:32 < _Ragnar_> ;P
19:32 < _Ragnar_> how?
19:32 < morfoh> what is your problem ?
19:33 < _Ragnar_> kernel boots, but then either no init found or doesn't recognise root device
19:33 < morfoh> fully modular standard kernel ?
19:33 < _Ragnar_> yes
19:33 < morfoh> no custom kernel conf ?
19:33 < _Ragnar_> nope
19:34 < morfoh> ok then we've the difference
19:34 < morfoh> I use a custom kernel conf
19:34 < _Ragnar_> what did you change?
19:34 < morfoh> reenabled devfs so far because I had no time for udev thingy yet
19:34 < morfoh> it's disabled by default
19:35 < morfoh> and I did some tweaks for my machine
19:35 < morfoh> some parts are not modular
19:35 < morfoh> bt, I don't like modular kernels ;)
19:35 < _Ragnar_> yea I see your point
19:35 < karasz> mnemoc: I got to have the good deed for today :D
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19:35 < karasz> Veki: dobar dan
19:36 < karasz> :D
19:36 < morfoh> hehe :D
19:36 < Veki> karasz: dobar dan
19:36 < Veki> how you knwo serbian
19:36 < morfoh> _Ragnar_:  I think devfs will be the key 
19:36  * morfoh hides
19:36 < karasz> Veki: i do not know serbian ( http://www.freelang.net/expressions/hello.html )
19:37 < karasz> :D
19:37 < Veki> :)
19:37 < Veki> dobar dan = good day or good afternoon
19:37 < karasz> yep
19:37 < _Ragnar_> morfoh: what option do you use to turn it on? O_O
19:37 < Veki> thanks, Merci
19:37 < karasz> it fits doesn't it?
19:37 < Veki> yes it fits
19:38 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: mom
19:38 < karasz> than it is OK
19:38 < karasz> :D
19:38 < Veki> is it Mercy something like thank you
19:38 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: 
19:38 < morfoh> CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y
19:38 < morfoh> CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT=y
19:38 < karasz> yes but it is written 'mersi'
19:38 < Veki> oh excuse me...
19:38 < karasz> or multumesc
19:38 < karasz> :D
19:38 < Veki> ok, cizma is boot
19:38 < karasz> yep
19:39 < karasz> that is right
19:39 < Veki> on our language it is the same
19:39 < morfoh> .oO( and today we present: how to learn other languages with T2 ;)
19:39 < karasz> i think it is an slav intervention in romanian
19:40 < karasz> morfoh: naughty naughty... :D
19:40 < morfoh> karasz: why ?
19:40 < morfoh> I like it
19:40 < karasz> me too
19:40 < Veki> yes, t2 brothers present you the show: Foreign languages in a quest for words!!!
19:41 < karasz> guys i'll be back in half an hour
19:41 < karasz> excuse me..
19:41 < morfoh> cu
19:42 < Veki> a now something completely different, or more technical.  I am bilding generic target that is put to be optimized for Pentium 3. kde-arts and many packages related to kde failed to build
19:42 < Veki> in kde-arts there was problme with internal error (program cc1)
19:42 < Veki> it looks something like compilation problem
19:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, adding the extraversion stuff for linux pkg like in vserver doesn't seem to work on trunk anymore ... 
19:43 < Veki> other compinents of kde failed due to missing kde-libs etc...
19:43 < morfoh> I'll add a ticket later
19:43 < mnemoc> morfoh: uhm
19:44 < sepp_> hoohoo
19:44 < morfoh> yes ... it doesn't extend the extraversion anymore
19:44 < morfoh> hi sepp .... are you santa sepp ?
19:44 < morfoh> ;)
19:44 < sepp_> yes
19:44 < sepp_> :D
19:45 < morfoh> sepp_: but it's summer santa sepp ...
19:45 < morfoh> :D
19:45 < morfoh> no christmas ... 
19:45 < sepp_> uhm so why have i stopped my summersleep?
19:45 < minto> What presents does Santa bring up :)
19:45 < morfoh> :D
19:46 < morfoh> minto: I guess some tasty bugs :)
19:46 < minto> I was hoping for some juicy fixes
19:46 < sepp_> hmm what can i destroy today
19:47 < morfoh> I like the bugs grilled with some hot chili
19:47 < mnemoc> morfoh: can you trace it?
19:47 < minto> teminator santa?
19:47 < minto> :-( I guess not fixes this x-mas
19:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll take a look on it this night. I guess I'll have no sleep today ... because I've a lot to do! but for now I'm away for some time.
19:48 < mnemoc> morfoh: cu
19:48 < morfoh> back in 1h ;)
19:48 < minto> cu morfoh
19:49 < Veki> cu
19:49 < morfoh> cu guys :)
19:49 < Veki> mnemoc: DO you have any idea why many kde packages failed ruing th ebuild of generic target optimized for Pentium 3
19:51 < mnemoc> first time i hear that
19:51 < Veki> majority of packages somplined thatthere is no kde-cpnfig, but kde-arts complained on internall error for program cc1
19:52 < mnemoc> uhm
19:52 < mnemoc> do you have kde on your PATH?
19:54 < Veki> hm, on my t2 I do not have any X , but why is that important for building independent target
19:55 < mnemoc> it's not
19:55 < mnemoc> i though it was on runtime
19:56 < Veki> yes, I think that something that i sneeded for the whole build of kde failed ie kde--ats and thus necessary preconditions have not been met and other failed too
19:56 < Veki> I will wait this to be built and I think that I have to try again to buld the rest
19:57 < minto> mnemoc: I think I figured out what to put in pkg_linux24_post.conf :-)
19:57 < minto> if [ 'uname -m' == "x86_64" ] ; then
19:57 < minto>         UNAME_MACHINE=$arch_machine
19:57 < minto>         export UNAME_MACHINE
19:57 < minto> fi
19:57 < mnemoc> nasty
19:57 < Veki> In the mantime those failures may be cleaned by ./scripts/Cleanup 
19:57 < mnemoc> `uname -m` any way :)
19:57 < minto> know something better?
19:57 < mnemoc> minto: nope :)
19:58 < mnemoc> Veki: nope, Cleanup just remove the ligering sources
19:58 < minto> Whole UNAME thing is nasty anyway.
19:58 < mnemoc> :)
19:58 < Veki> mnemoc: OK, I will try to rebuild mssing packages by issuing again ./scripots/Build-target -cfg foo
19:59 < minto> I wonder if something like this is necessary for ppc -> ppc64, sparc -> sparc64 and in the reverse direction as well.
19:59 < mnemoc> Veki: if they failed, on default config they will be skipped on the nexts Build-Target
19:59 < mnemoc> minto: eclipse told me to pass  "-Dosgi.locking=none" to VM, but eclipse is an ELF. how can i do it?
20:00 < minto> Oh and sh -> sh64 and ia64 -> x86
20:00 < mnemoc> uhm
20:00 < minto> Not whole of eclipse is an ELF I guess.
20:01 < mnemoc> yes, but how i can i tell it to use that define when calling java's VM?
20:02 < minto> Dunno, maybe with a properties file?
20:02 < minto> Are you trying to create eclipse package?
20:08 < mnemoc> nope, installing prebuilt :p
20:09 < minto> Hmm, I never installed under linux
20:09 < mnemoc> .oO
20:09 < mnemoc> .oO( there is world outside linux? )o
20:10 < minto> You know what world I come from!
20:10 < mnemoc> alien
20:10 < minto> Nope, the world of vaporware and broken dreams
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20:32 < _Ragnar_> morfoh: didn't work :/
20:32 < _Ragnar_> seems it doesn't find an init on the initrd
20:38 < mnemoc> :(
20:38 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: root mounted?
20:39 < _Ragnar_> no seems not
20:40 < karasz> guys T2 is building fine until now
20:40 < karasz> now building linux24
20:40 < karasz> linux26 built in roughly 1 hour
20:40 < karasz> :)
20:40 < mnemoc> karasz: if you enabled ccache it will take about 25m the next time
20:40 < karasz> T2 T2s :D
20:41 < karasz> no cache
20:41 < mnemoc> :(
20:41 < mnemoc> ccache is your best friend at T2
20:43 < karasz> well i am still to compile the very first target
20:43 < karasz> now without ccache
20:43 < karasz> the next one will be with ccache for sure
20:43 < mnemoc> :)
20:44 < karasz> linux24 built in 24 mins
20:44 < karasz> that is now much for a p3 with 512 mb ram and no ccache
20:44 < karasz> now=not
20:45 < mnemoc> less that what i would expected
20:45 < karasz> me to
20:45 < karasz> :D
20:46 < karasz> should i merge mktemp and sed with the others in Check_System?
20:47 < mnemoc> do you diff over trunk
20:47 < karasz> whoww...
20:47 < karasz> take me slowly mnemoc :)
20:48 < karasz> \to make diff over trunk i should first do a svn co trunk, right?
20:48 < mnemoc> yep :p
20:49 < mnemoc> or just trunk/config is you prefer
20:49 < mnemoc> err
20:49 < mnemoc> trunk/scripts
20:49 < karasz> yesterday i made a svn co .../2.1
20:49 < karasz> doe it matter?
20:49 < karasz> does it matter?
20:50 < mnemoc> nope, that is the stable tree
20:50 < karasz> to be exact svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1
20:50 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk t2-trunk   will give you a copy of trunk
20:50 < karasz> now i should make a :svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 trunk?
20:50 < karasz> oki
20:50 < karasz> working on it
20:50 < mnemoc> thanks :)
20:50 < karasz> for what?
20:51 < mnemoc> for helping
20:51 < karasz> wish it could be more
20:52 < karasz> but who knows maybe in time...:)
20:52 < mnemoc> piano piano va lontano
20:52 < mnemoc> yep
20:52 < karasz> but only if you don't switc to C++
20:52 < karasz> because there i am lost
20:52 < mnemoc> i hate c++ :)
20:52 < karasz> bash so-so, C++ "niente"
20:52 < karasz> or C for that matter
20:54 < karasz> I heard that you could drop bash in the future
20:54 < karasz> what is the truth abt that?
20:54 < karasz> t2-trunk down
20:55 < mnemoc> add the code there and merge it to your 2.1 tree
20:55 < mnemoc> or add it to both :)
20:55 < mnemoc> but send the diff against trunk please
20:57 < karasz> i replaced the file entirely
20:57 < karasz> now i did a svn diff > /var/log/Check_System.diff
20:57 < karasz> i am in the trunk dir
20:59 < mnemoc> bad boy
20:59 < karasz> :?
20:59 < mnemoc> send atomic changes, not violent ones
20:59 < karasz> what did i do wrong?
21:00 < mnemoc> "i replaced the file entirely"
21:01 < karasz> yes that is true but hoew is that different from editing?
21:01 < mnemoc> if the only change is the new check, nothing
21:01 < mnemoc> but 2.1's is different than trunk's
21:02 < karasz> i chenged more than a check
21:02 < karasz> i implemented that code reusing stuff you mentioned...
21:03 < mnemoc> yes, i saw the diff
21:03 < karasz> no more redundancy
21:03 < karasz> almost :)
21:03 < mnemoc> add just the new check for now :)
21:03 < karasz> but i agree it was a mistake to replace the content
21:04 < karasz> i wil svn again
21:04 < karasz> once i get cpu ticks again:D
21:04 < mnemoc> svn revert scripts/Check-System
21:05 < karasz> ok
21:12 < karasz> is there a way to get diff for just one file?
21:12 < mnemoc> svn diff just-one-file
21:12 < karasz> svn diff on trunk kills my cpu which is building right now
21:12 < karasz> k
21:14 < karasz> svn diff ./scripts/Check_System  ?
21:14 < sepp_> yup
21:14 < karasz> it say that is not under version control...:(
21:15 < karasz> svn: 'scripts/Check_System' is not under version control
21:15 < karasz> it is official
21:15 < karasz> I AM STUPID
21:15 < karasz> :(
21:16 < sepp_> ?
21:16 < mnemoc> Check-System :)
21:17 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/320457
21:17 < karasz> yes i noticed finaly
21:17 < karasz> in pastebin the diff from trunk
21:18 < karasz> in that added just bison check
21:19 < karasz> the "old" way
21:20 < mnemoc> the "current" way :)
21:21 < karasz> so mnemoc should I try to add mktemp and sed the "new" aproach or my aproach is wrong entirely
21:21 < karasz> i am just learning bash
21:21 < karasz> i get that ;)
21:22  * karasz flaps his wings, then hides in the dark
21:25  * karasz my bec grow to big so now it's in the way of slaps 
21:25  * karasz deserves that :)
21:25 < mnemoc> :)
21:25 < mnemoc> i need to think about
21:26 < karasz> mnemoc: you think about it in the mean time i will try to ad mktemp and sed
21:27 < karasz> in the worst scenario i wil learn a little bash doing it
21:27 < karasz> in the best scenario somebody will use it in the future :)
21:28 < mnemoc> :)
21:29 < minto> mnemoc: Isn't this weird? What is the version of zope?
21:29 < minto> r10650	* updated zope (2.7.6 -> 2.7.7)
21:29 < minto> r10648	* updated zope (2.8.0-b2 -> 2.8.0)
21:29 < mnemoc> 2.1 vs. trunk
21:29 < minto> ahh
21:38 < CIA-9> amery * r10680 /trunk/scripts/Check-System: 
21:38 < CIA-9> Nagy Karoly Gabriel <karasz@x5.ro>:
21:38 < CIA-9>  * added paranoia checks for bison
21:41 < minto> Arggggh, there is a 6 minute hole in the irc log
21:41 < minto> 22:05 < minto> Yes, every extraction function should create one in the proper way
21:41 < minto> 22:11 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178173079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
21:42 < mnemoc> while rxr was dead :)
21:42 < minto> It was in the middle of our zip conversation :-(
21:43 < mnemoc> we finished in using helpers which receive the name of a file and produce untar.txt
21:43 < mnemoc> using custextract if defined and detecting if tar.bz2 or zip if not
21:43 < karasz> i added mktemp and sed my way but i don't like it very much :(
21:43 < minto> The bright side is: any records of me proposing to write it, is gone :-)
21:44 < karasz> it requires a case construct and code does not get any smaller
21:44 < mnemoc> minto: you can't hide
21:45 < minto> Don't worry, with my previous line I just created a new record. :-(
21:45 < karasz> i guess mktemp and sed will be left the current way
21:45 < karasz> but there is place for improvement:)
21:46 < karasz> checking for glibc-static-devel on Mandrake systems...
21:46 < mnemoc> there is always place from improvements
21:46 < karasz> should I?
21:46 < mnemoc> check for libc.a
21:46 < karasz> yep
21:46 < karasz> i am going for it
21:46 < karasz> :D
21:51 < morfoh> short re hi friends of the darkness
21:52 < minto> hi evil master morfoh
21:52 < morfoh> minto: haha ... evil I am ?
21:52 < minto> I though T2 was gonna bring some light?
21:52 < morfoh> minto: you should know ... evil master is eating police men for lunch :)
21:53 < minto> I am not with the police any more, hehe
21:53 < minto> oeps
21:53 < morfoh> minto: but you were ... so you're infected :)
21:53 < minto> I will be police again tomorrow
21:54 < minto> they had some problems and want me to have a look.
21:54 < morfoh> :D
21:54 < minto> I guess my T2 contributions will drop the comming days
21:54 < morfoh> minto: but take care ... if you don't stop walking if they say so ... they will give you 5 head shots
21:55  * morfoh hides 
21:55 < minto> Nahh, only in London
21:55 < morfoh> minto: don't worry ... you did a great work :)
21:55 < minto> I did?
21:56 < morfoh> I've not much time this week too
21:56 < morfoh> yes
21:56 < morfoh> :)
21:58 < morfoh> any help and contribution is good ... so don't let us use "rhetorical questions" ;)
21:59 < minto> :-)
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22:51 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005]
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22:51 < minto> The zip untar.txt start with a couple of empty lines. How can I remove them>
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22:52 < minto> Hmm, I am afraid we have another irc log gap.
22:54 < mnemoc> i don't remember :(
22:54 < minto> I do:
22:54 < minto> grep -v "^$"
22:54 < minto> :-)
22:55 < mnemoc> :)
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23:08 < minto> mnemoc: I modified it and it still works. Shall I commit?
23:09 < mnemoc> you can use your right to commit whenever you want
23:10 < minto> I know, but I do not want to force my changes :-)
23:10 < mnemoc> i agree the custextract and auto unzip
23:11 < mnemoc> autounzip would also need changes on packages
23:11 < Shingo--> hi, how can i get version 2.1.0-r2 from repository?
23:12 < mnemoc> rc2 is 2.1's head
23:12 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1
23:12 < Shingo--> ops.
23:12 < Shingo--> ok.
23:14 < minto> mnemoc: I do not know what packages all have zip files. But this can be done later as well.
23:15 < mnemoc> yes, they all have autoextract=0 :)
23:16 < minto> autoextract=0 is still valid :)
23:16 < karasz> mnemoc: still around?
23:16 < mnemoc> yes
23:16 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/320557
23:17 < karasz> added check for mandrake bug
23:17 < mnemoc> what si bison doing there?
23:17 < mnemoc> update your trunk copy :)
23:18 < karasz> svn co /htt.... ?
23:19 < minto> I am done for tonight, sleep well all and cu later
23:19 < mnemoc> karasz: svn up 
23:19 < mnemoc> gn8 minto ..... no commit?
23:19 < morfoh> night minto
23:19 < morfoh> slepp well with your noisy ;)
23:20 < karasz> now i have plenty of cpu cycles... :((
23:20 < karasz> build failed
23:20 < mnemoc> :(
23:20 < mnemoc> where?
23:21 < karasz> [2] binutils
23:21 < mnemoc> why?
23:21 < CIA-9> amery * r10683 /branches/2.1/target/embedded/config.in: * merged 10210 from trunk: changed embedded to build iptables also for dietlibc
23:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: is embedded building on 2.1 for you now?
23:21 < morfoh> ^:D
23:21 < morfoh> yippi ... pal :)
23:22 < mnemoc> great :D
23:22 < morfoh> mnemoc: I told you we should have a party today ;)
23:22 < karasz> http://pastebin.com/320560
23:22 < karasz> binutils error above
23:23 < mnemoc> karasz: instead of referencing mandrake directly i would prefer to point to some kind of FQA
23:23 < mnemoc>  /root/tmp ??
23:24 < karasz> oki
23:24 < karasz> i will modify
23:24 < karasz> but where to poin?
23:25 < karasz> but where to point?
23:26 < mnemoc> set | grep tmp
23:27 < karasz> GCONF_TMPDIR=/tmp
23:27 < karasz> TMP=/root/tmp
23:27 < karasz> TMPDIR=/root/tmp
23:27 < mnemoc> yuck
23:28 < karasz> no FAQ on T2, at leas i cannot find it...
23:28 < mnemoc> no FAQ yet
23:28 < karasz> so then where to point my finger? :)
23:28 < mnemoc> karasz: on scripts/parse-config add TMP and TMPDIR to unset list
23:28 < mnemoc> morfoh: trac or www2?
23:28 < karasz> oki
23:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: what ?
23:30 < karasz> mnemoc: where it say unset DISPLAY?
23:30 < morfoh> the FAQ ?
23:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: yes
23:30 < morfoh> I'd prefer to have it on trac first ... if we use "rst" we can migrate it later on too ;)
23:31 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you agree ... or what do you think ?
23:33 < mnemoc> i don't like rst, but yes
23:33 < morfoh> mnemoc: feel free to propose sth. else 
23:33 < morfoh> :)
23:33 < mnemoc> i'm just using trac syntax
23:33 < karasz> mnemoc: the tmp stuff is my systems fault?
23:34 < mnemoc> karasz: yep
23:34 < karasz> or is a track issue... :)
23:34 < karasz> ahm
23:34 < morfoh> we could even use your wiki markup
23:34 < karasz> i am stupid again i guess
23:34 < mnemoc> karasz: you are sanitizing mandrake there :)
23:35 < karasz> yeah ofcourse but why me allways?
23:35 < karasz> from all the distros i have to choose PCLinuxOS :(
23:36 < morfoh> karasz: shame on you :)
23:36 < karasz> yeah shame on me :)
23:36 < karasz> so what should I echo in the script?
23:37 < mnemoc> you will use T2 soon, but we are open to sanitize that kind of thing from host systems :)
23:37 < mnemoc> nothing
23:37 < karasz> so just that i cannot find libc.a?
23:38 < karasz> or should I drop the issue since is to particular?
23:38 < mnemoc> we could point to...... [wiki:FAQ/libc.a] where you mention mandrake and pclinuxos
23:39 < mnemoc> trac.t2-project.org/wiki/FAQ/libc.a
23:39 < mnemoc> .oO( i guess you can't write there.... give me a second
23:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: you can write anywhere on trac ;)
23:41 < mnemoc> yes, i can... karasz doesn't :p
23:41 < karasz> binutils buit
23:41 < mnemoc> "/usr/lib/libc.a not found on host machine"
23:41 < karasz> now gcc
23:42 < karasz> no mention of where to find help?
23:46 < karasz> found http://trac.t2-project.org/wiki/FAQ/libc.a
23:46 < karasz> added to script
23:46 < karasz> now svn up
23:46 < karasz> then post diff on pastebin
23:47 < karasz> :)
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23:48 < mnemoc> morfoh-webmaster, should he point to trac or just mention the FAQ?
23:48 < karasz> come on....
23:48 < karasz> i guess it is too late for me
23:48 < karasz> i should go to sleep
23:49 < karasz> the khell i found the webpage
23:49 < karasz> i just found Wiki page FAQ/libc.a not found
23:49 < karasz> but i didn't boother to read :(
23:49 < mnemoc> i'm writting it, calm down
23:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: please don't call me webmaster ... I'm anythin but a webmaster
23:49 < morfoh> :p
23:50 < karasz> i am by no means upset with you mnemoc, just with me because i make too much mistakes
23:50 < karasz> i guess i am tired
23:50 < morfoh> karasz: then go slepp :)
23:50 < mnemoc> :)
23:50 < karasz> i will i will
23:51 < karasz> promise i will go to sleep and leave you alone
23:51 < karasz> in the dark :)
23:51 < karasz> just kidding :D
23:52 < mnemoc> done
23:53 < karasz> beautifull
23:53 < karasz> now just waiting for svn up
23:54 < karasz> it takes a damn long time since i am building gcc too
23:54 < mnemoc> svn up scripts/
23:54 < karasz> to late
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