--- Log opened Wed Jul 06 00:00:00 2005
00:00 < veki> uh, great.  Tomorrow is meeting of European parliament about software patents.  I hope that they will not be crazy to vote for patents
00:00 < veki> hey morfoh
00:00 < veki> :-)
00:00 < morfoh> veki: I think .... unfortunately they are crazy enough :(
00:01 < veki> yes, that i strue, but I hope that tommorrow will be good day for us.  Otherwise, I would not be in their place.  They wil l provoke anger which willcot them a lot
00:01 < veki> provoked anger is always more costly than any saving
00:03 < veki> I decided not to sleep this night so Iwould liek to build some target. hm, at least it is good to spend night in a useful way
00:05 < valentin> it looks today like the vote will be dropped. this would mean a total reset of the process and the european patent office can continue to register trivia for some more years...
00:07 < morfoh> valentin: btw, the deps for kdebase Emerge showed before ... were not all build
00:07 < morfoh> so the sun-jdk* kaffee stuff wasn't build anyway 
00:08 < veki> which target you recommend for tonight to be build?
00:08 < morfoh> veki: build one ... you've a need for ;)
00:09 < veki> OK, I have to practise.  I am not good as you are. o_O
00:10 < veki> maybe some simple. I wilbe back in a minute.  I am going on my t2 machine without X and use irssi client
00:10 < veki> bye
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00:11 < veki> back again :-)
00:12 < morfoh> veki: you shouldn't use a root account for doing irc ;)
00:12 < veki> the last time I tried to build Boot, install, rescue and it failed due to failure of building of runit package
00:13 < veki> hm, did I ? Excuse me I am working on three machines and administering the fourth, sorry
00:13 < morfoh> veki: runit ? in the bootdisk target ? this isn't possible I think 
00:13 < veki> h, oh that was something else, I will check again
00:14 < valentin> veki: useradd -g users -d /home/veki -s /bin/bash -c "Veki the Vampire" -m
00:14 < veki> It was snort
00:14 < morfoh> veki: no problem ... it's your machine ... 
00:14 < veki> OK, thanks :-)
00:14 < morfoh> snort on bootdisk ?
00:14 < valentin> veki: useradd -g users -d /home/veki -s /bin/bash -c "Veki the Vampire" -m veki
00:14 < morfoh> you added it manually I guess
00:14 < valentin> of course
00:15 < morfoh> veki: if you have the  error log for that issue please use our issue tracker to file it ;)
00:16 < morfoh> I'll take a look on snort stuff tomorrow anyway 
00:16 < veki> OK
00:18 < morfoh> btw, you could use mnemosyne target if you want to have sth. like a server/firewall with snort 
00:19 < veki> OK, I will try, but it also failed and mnemoc suggested to wait a bit
00:20 < veki> back in a second, finishing other machine
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00:20 < veki> nack again
00:21 < veki> back :-)
00:21 < morfoh> .oO( but I build a mnemosyne target from 2.1 branch today )o 
00:22 < veki> great, so here we go.  the main dish is mnemosyne OK?
00:23 < morfoh> veki: there is a quite good "IDS" section in mnemosyne ... if you enable "Prelude-IDS support" snort will automatically patched with prelude support
00:23 < veki> OK, I will check that , I will start mnemosyne in a inute
00:23 < morfoh> veki: to get more infos about take a look at prelude-ids.org ;)
00:24 < veki> OK. I am right now in Config, maybe I wil have a dew questions OK?
00:25 < morfoh> veki: ok ... but hurry ... I'll go sleep soon ;)
00:25 < veki> yes, in aminute, can you specially recommend any option from Config
00:26 < morfoh> veki: btw, the upcoming snort 2.4 will have builtin prelude support anyway ... so no patching in the future ;)
00:26 < morfoh> veki: it depends what do wanna do with the system
00:27 < veki> I have checked Prelude in COnfig already :-)
00:29 < morfoh> veki: on a normal server/firewall target it just make sense to enable "Prelude-IDS support" + "Prelude Host Intrusion Detection Sensor" + "Snort Network Intrusion Detection"
00:30 < morfoh> veki: Prelude-Manager is the central manager which is gathering all informations from the network sensors 
00:31 < veki> yes, that is what I have done
00:31 < morfoh> veki: and the "Prelude Management Console" is the web app where you analyze the "events" and making fancy reports
00:32 < morfoh> veki: mostly you have to install MySQL or PostgreSQL on the manager machine too 
00:32 < veki> ok, great, I started, fasten your seat belts, we are going to fly
00:33 < veki> yes, I have chosen postgre.  I know th eguy who i sexcellent in pstgre and he will help if needed
00:33 < morfoh> veki: ok ... I'll let you fly a bit ... but I'll fall into my bed now ;)
00:33 < veki> OK, midnight passed?
00:33 < veki> So Cinderelal should go home and possibly loose her shoe :-)
00:34 < morfoh> veki: but consider to read the fine documentation on http://www.prelude-ids.org wiki
00:34 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10012 /trunk/package/multimedia/jahshaka/jahshaka.conf: * reworked install(), fixed docdir and the initial database
00:35 < morfoh> oh ... sepp isn't sleeping yet :)
00:35 < sepp> no :)
00:35 < morfoh> ok ... I'll go sleep now ... good night all ...cu tomorrow 
00:35 < sepp> sleep well morfoh 
00:36 < morfoh> sepp: thx ... you too ... of course after fixing some more issues ;)
00:36 < veki> thanks on advices
00:37 < morfoh> veki: no prob
00:37 < veki> I found what was problem last time in building mnemosyen.  djbdns package failed
00:37 < veki> :-)
00:38 < morfoh> veki: hmmm ... strange. it really shouldn't fail! 
00:38 < veki> I will see tonight and let you know tomorrow
00:41 < morfoh> veki: btw, if you have a package failed building which isn't a "core" package needed by the system you can just touch a .log file i.e.if djbdns failed on stage 5 just touch  build/YOURTARGET/var/adm/log/5-djbdns.log and run Build-Target again
00:42 < morfoh> veki: then it will continue ... to build the target and you can examine the problem later on
00:43 < morfoh> ok ... finaly ..bye bye 
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00:45 < veki> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<ok, thanks, your advice i suseful
00:45 < veki> uups
00:46 < veki> I started to download
01:09 < valentin> gn8 all
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06:49 < CIA-9> amery * r10013 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * merged 9820 from trunk: updated poppler (0.3.2 -> 0.3.3)
06:56 < CIA-9> amery * r10014 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (acl/acl.desc attr/attr.desc): 
06:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9152 from trunk: updated acl (2.2.27 -> 2.2.28)
06:56 < CIA-9> * merged 9154 from trunk: updated attr (2.4.19 -> 2.4.20)
07:07 < CIA-9> amery * r10015 /branches/2.1/package/security/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
07:07 < CIA-9> * merged 9117,9209 from trunk: updated libprelude (0.9.0-rc6 -> 0.9.0-rc8)
07:07 < CIA-9> * merged 9275,9276 from trunk: updated libpreludedb (0.9.0-rc5 -> 0.9.0-rc7)
07:07 < CIA-9> * merged 9210,9960 from trunk: updated prelude-manager (0.9.0-rc4 -> 0.9.0-rc6)
07:07 < CIA-9> * merged 9432,9803 from trunk: updated prewikka (0.9.0-rc5 -> 0.9.0-rc7)
07:10 < mnemoc> gn8 *
08:15 < rxr> moin
08:15 < rxr> n8 mnemoc 
08:19 < CIA-9> rene * r10016 /trunk/package/base/minised/fixes.patch: * fixed the minised fixes patch to apply and added latest fixes
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08:23 < karasz> hi
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09:04 < rxr> Subversion 1.2.1 
09:10 < CIA-9> mtr * r10017 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.conf: * fix postfix to find mysql libs by setting LD_RUN_PATH
09:11 < CIA-9> mtr * r10018 /trunk/package/multimedia/mythtv/mythtv.desc: * updated mythtv (0.18 -> 0.18.1)
09:16 < rxr> hi mtr_ ,-)
09:17 < CIA-9> mtr * r10019 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.13.2 -> 1.13.3)
09:18 < CIA-9> mtr * r10020 /trunk/package/office/aqhbci/aqhbci.desc: * updated aqhbci (1.0.9beta -> 1.0.10beta)
09:18 < CIA-9> mtr * r10021 /trunk/package/office/aqbanking/aqbanking.desc: * updated aqbanking (1.0.11 -> 1.0.12)
09:18 < mtr_> hi rxr 
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09:19 < CIA-9> mtr * r10022 /trunk/package/security/opensc/opensc.desc: * updated opensc (0.9.4 -> 0.9.6)
09:20 < CIA-9> mtr * r10023 /trunk/package/gnome2/gstreamer/gstreamer.desc: * updated gstreamer (0.8.10 -> 0.9.1)
09:23 < CIA-9> mtr * r10024 /trunk/package/x11-ng/libsvg/libsvg.desc: * updated libsvg (0.1.3 -> 0.1.4)
09:27 < rxr> ,-)
09:27 < rxr> nice to see some more updates ,-)
09:27  * rxr updating subversion right now
09:29 < mtr> rxr: yep, constantly updating and merging, we are heading to rev 11k ...
09:30 < rxr> I was thinking about 10^5 ,-)
09:30 < mtr> :)
09:36 < CIA-9> rene * r10025 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.desc: * updated subversion (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
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09:40 < morfoh> moin
09:44 < mtr> moin morfoh 
09:47 < morfoh> moin mtr
09:53 < CIA-9> chris * r10026 /trunk/package/base/libpcap/libpcap.desc: * updated libpcap (0.8.3 -> 0.9.1)
09:59 < CIA-9> chris * r10027 /trunk/package/network/ngrep/ngrep.desc: * updated ngrep (1.43 -> 1.44-1)
09:59 < rxr> moin morfoh 
10:00 < morfoh> moin rxr
10:04 < CIA-9> chris * r10028 /trunk/package/network/dante/dante.desc: * updated dante (1.1.15 -> 1.1.16)
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10:21 < CIA-9> chris * r10029 /trunk/package/security/opencdk/opencdk.desc: * updated opencdk (0.5.5 -> 0.5.7)
10:21 < CIA-9> chris * r10030 /trunk/package/security/libgpg-error/libgpg-error.desc: * updated libgpg-error (1.0 -> 1.1)
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10:55 < valentin> moin
10:58 < rxr> moin valentin 
10:58 < rxr> minised starts to rock ,-)
10:59 < morfoh> moin valentin
11:00 < valentin> moin morfoh 
11:09 < rxr> valentin: yet another scanner arrived
11:10 < rxr> the AV220 eqivalent from Visioner is not in susans's flat ,-)
11:11 < valentin> hm
11:15 < rxr> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1666179,00.asp
11:15 < rxr> hm - now I wonder why Visioneer sent my a Xerox scanner ... - hm ....
11:47 < karasz> hi
11:49 < valentin> hi karasz 
11:54 < karasz> is there a buid log?
11:55 < karasz> is there a build log?
12:02 < karasz> anyone?
12:05 < mtr> karasz: logfiles are written to build/<YourTarget>/TOOLCHAIN/logs, package logs to $root/var/adm/logs
12:09 < karasz> is it normal to have gem files not present?
12:09 < karasz> Creating package database...
12:10 < karasz> Binary file for sysfiles-0000.gem not present. Skipped in package database...?
12:11 < karasz> and a lot of other files in the same situation....
12:17 < karasz> anyone?
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12:24 < mtr> karasz: the default binary package format was .gem, this changed on trunk sometime before to .tarbz2
12:25 < mtr> if you have an old build tree, or changed the format during a running build, you will get these messages
12:25 < mtr> you'll find the binary pkgs in $root/TOOLCHAIN/pkgs
12:27 < karasz> no shadow there...
12:28 < karasz> no sysfiles there either...
12:30 < karasz> judging by the name I need those..
12:30 < karasz> or don't I?
12:32 < mtr> karasz: which target did you build?
12:32 < karasz> desktop
12:34 < mtr> and your build finished without any other errors?
12:35 < mtr> take a look at the package logfile $root/var/adm/logs/?-sysfiles.log
12:37 < karasz> 1-sysfiles.log no errors
12:38 < karasz> in 3-sysfiles.log...
12:38 < karasz> patching file /etc/profile
12:38 < karasz> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] 
12:38 < karasz> Apply anyway? [n] 
12:38 < karasz> Skipping patch.
12:38 < karasz> 1 out of 1 hunk ignored -- saving rejects to file /etc/profile.rej
12:39 < karasz> no 5-sysfiles.log at all
12:40 < karasz> in build log...
12:40 < karasz> == 07/06/05 12:48:05 =[5]=> Aborted building package gtkdoc.
12:40 < karasz> !> Creation of binary package isn't possible, because the package was not
12:40 < karasz> !> built successfully in (at least) the current stage.
12:40 < karasz> then searching for lingering files
12:41 < karasz> a lot of "No such file or directory
12:41 < karasz> "
12:41 < karasz> after that "No errors found"
12:43 < jsaw> e-patents denied
12:43 < karasz> Finishing build.
12:43 < karasz> Creating package database ...
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for wireless-tools-27.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for unionfs-1.0.11.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for sysvinit-2.86.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for sysfiles-0000.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for shadow-4.0.7.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for perl-5.8.6.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for pam-0.79.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:43 < karasz> Binary file for net-tools-1.60.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Binary file for iproute2-2.6.11-050330.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Binary file for gtkdoc-1.3.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Binary file for gettext-0.14.1.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Binary file for ethtool-3.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Binary file for curl-7.13.2.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Binary file for cramfs-tools-1.1.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Binary file for cracklib-2.7.gem not present. Skipped in package database.
12:44 < karasz> Creating isofs.txt file ..
12:45 < karasz> jsaw: those are very good news
12:45 < jsaw> hmmm, don't know. Some voices say it's also a problem.
12:45 < karasz> why?
12:46 < jsaw> obviously EPA happily grants patents on software
12:46 < jsaw> already
12:46 < jsaw> and you know, even if a patent is not ok, it costs mountains of money to defend yourself
12:47 < karasz> :( true
12:51 < karasz> mtr any news?
12:52 < mtr> karasz: hmm, no idea, your build is obviously incomplete
12:54 < mtr> karasz: are you using T2 2.1.0-rc1 ?
12:54 < karasz> rc2
12:58 < valentin> jsaw: they did not deny E-Patents. They dropped the decission
12:59 < jsaw> yep
12:59 < jsaw> wrong wording, my fault
12:59 < karasz> again?
12:59 < valentin> this is, the EPA will continue to take E-Patents
12:59 < karasz> didn't they do that last time also?
13:00 < valentin> karasz: they finaly dropped it, that means the process was reset to zero
13:00 < karasz> so they will began again the procedure sometime in the future...
13:00 < valentin> so there is still no law saying wether E-patents are allowed or forbidden...
13:00 < valentin> karasz: yes, i think they will start over some day
13:01 < karasz> again and again until they finaly adopt it...:((
13:01 < valentin> i fear so
13:02 < karasz> are they change the name also?
13:02 < valentin> and in the time between that the european patent office will be going on with registering E-patents :(
13:02 < valentin> who changes what name ?
13:02 < karasz> i suggest United States of Europe
13:02 < jsaw> :) ... :(
13:03 < valentin> how about Europe XP proffesional 2000
13:03 < karasz> :((
13:03 < valentin> powered by simens and nokia
13:03 < valentin> paid by M$
13:08 < tilix> On #ffii they say there won`t be a new vote
13:09 < karasz> you wanna bet..?
13:09 < tilix> no :)
13:10 < valentin> tilix: i think ffii meant there will be no new vote for this process
13:11 < valentin> the Commission could come up with another version of their proposal and force a new vote
13:11 < valentin> but there will be none as it looks today
13:12 < valentin> have to go, cu later
13:14 < karasz> cu
13:16 < morfoh> re
13:17 < morfoh> hi jsaw karasz tilix + all the other :)
13:17 < karasz> hi morfoh
13:18 < karasz> morfoh: can i query you?
13:18 < tilix> hi morfoh
13:18 < CIA-9> chris * r10031 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver linux26 patch (2.6.11.11-vs2.0-rc4 -> 2.6.12.2-vs2.0-rc5)
13:18 < morfoh> karasz: you can try to ;)
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13:23 < CIA-9> mtr * r10032 /trunk/package/gnome2/anjuta/ (anjuta.desc no-pkgconfig-list-all.patch): * updated anjuta (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1)
13:23 < CIA-9> mtr * r10033 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgsf/libgsf.desc: * updated libgsf (1.11.1 -> 1.12.1)
13:24 < CIA-9> mtr * r10034 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc: * updated gnumeric (1.5.1 -> 1.5.2)
13:40 < morfoh> .oO( seems that the new gnutls doesn't like the last updated lzo
13:49 < mtr> == 07/06/05 13:50:42 =[5]=> Finished building package gnutls.
13:50 < morfoh> mtr: was this gnutls 1.2.4 or 1.2.5 ?
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13:50 < mtr> morfoh: lzo updated to 2.0.1, but without your opencdk update from this morning
13:50 < mtr> morfoh: 1.2.5
13:50 < CIA-9> mtr * r10038 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * updated gnutls (1.2.4 -> 1.2.5)
13:50 < CIA-9> mtr * r10037 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdl/gdl.desc: * changed priority to build before anjuta
13:50 < CIA-9> mtr * r10036 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-build/gnome-build.desc: 
13:50 < CIA-9> * updated gnome-build (0.1.1 -> 0.1.2)
13:50 < CIA-9> * changed priority to build before anjuta
13:50 < CIA-9> * tagged as NOPARALLEL
13:50 < CIA-9> mtr * r10035 /trunk/package/gnome2/goffice/ (. goffice.desc): * added goffice (0.0.2)
13:51 < morfoh> mtr: thanks ... for the update ;)
13:57 < mtr> morfoh: np ;-) (i missed the [M], sorry)
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14:16 < morfoh> hi veki
14:16 < veki> hi
14:16 < morfoh> what about your mnemosyne build ?
14:16 < morfoh> worked ?
14:17 < veki> hm, It failed, I will go now to t2 machine nd let yuo know
14:18 < veki> actually, it did not download all required files,  I have seen that some mirrors were not up  so a lot o fpackages have not been downloaded, but I will read now and let you know
14:19 < morfoh> just try to run "Download -cfg YOURTARGET -required" again
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14:20 < veki_> morfoh, is there any .log sile which I have to check out?
14:21 < morfoh> hmmm ... for the download ?
14:22 < veki_> actually, it did skip some packages in package database due to the fat that it did not find them as binary .bz.2 files.  For example, bash, apapche etc.
14:22 < veki_> it created iso.txt file but without those packages
14:26 < veki_> hm, it did not build xfce which is not important, rtai
14:27 < veki_> Maybe I should start it again afresh, but it may be needed maybe to clean up direwctories so it i snot confused or so?
14:29 < veki_> hm, I started COnfig script, I will omit X, XFCE, RT additions etc
14:33 < veki_> I will start to download again, I included Prelude again :-)
14:34 < morfoh> ok ... but I have to move now ... cu later
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14:34 < karasz> cu morfoh...
14:35 < veki> cu
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14:35 < valentin> re
14:38 < veki_> hi valentin
14:40 < karasz> hi
14:42 < veki_> I downloaded again packages for menmosyne target and started to build it
14:43 < veki_> does it download all files again or it looks which are missing and downloads only missing files?
14:44 < veki_> I think, missing form previous attempt
14:49 < veki_> I just heard the European parliemanet rejected adoption of the law for patenting software
14:49 < veki_> :-)
14:50 < valentin> veki_: yes, but i would not call this a victory
14:50 < valentin> they did _not_ vote _against_ sw-pat
14:50 < veki_> yes, it is not victory, but still it i snot the case where they will chase us with their police dogs
14:51 < veki_> actually, they postponed solution, I know that, but at least we have more time for our struggle 
14:54 < veki_> my build is going on fine so far :-)
14:56 < veki_> I have to go on some meetings, but I will be back tonight and let you know how building process went on
14:56 < veki_> cu
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15:08 < CIA-9> mtr * r10039 /trunk/package/base/pcre/ (pcre.desc pcrecpp.patch): 
15:08 < CIA-9> * updated pcre (5.0 -> 6.1)
15:08 < CIA-9> * patched to build c++ wrapper library
15:17 < CIA-9> mtr * r10040 /trunk/package/network/net-snmp/net-snmp.conf: * install net-snmp perl modules by default
15:26 < karasz> no gtkdoc this time either...:((
15:29  * karasz is on the edge of dispair....
15:29  * karasz is pulling his hair out
15:29 < minto> /me thinks karasz will be bald soon.
15:29 < minto> hi karasz
15:29 < minto> and others.
15:29 < karasz> hi minto
15:30  * karasz slaps his head with the keyboard
15:31  * karasz ouch :)
15:31 < minto> Karasz? On what floor do you live?
15:31 < karasz> I'm at the office
15:31 < minto> If it is higher than the first floor, don't jump out the window.
15:31 < karasz> 1 floor
15:31 < karasz> but i dunot jump...:)
15:32 < minto> pffffew
15:32 < minto> This is good for my karma, I just safed someone from jumping.
15:32 < karasz> i will jump from home ...
15:32 < karasz> 5th floor
15:32 < minto> There goes my good karma.
15:33 < karasz> just to be sure..
15:34 < karasz> i can live without wireless but can I without sysfiles and shadow???
15:34 < karasz> or cracklib?
15:49 < rxr> re
15:51 < minto> hi rxr
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15:58 < minto> hi morfoh
15:58 < morfoh> hi minto ... that was quick ;)
15:58 < minto> The police is always one step ahead ;-)
15:59 < morfoh> minto: if that is your experience ... ;)
15:59 < minto> No it isn't. But I like to think it is.
16:00 < minto> Yesterday Dutch police decided to use cellphone with cameras. 
16:00 < morfoh> I think if they want to they will be ... but otherwise ....
16:00 < minto> Wauw, this is rocket science 
16:01 < karasz> hi morfoh
16:01 < morfoh> hi karasz 
16:01 < morfoh> minto: what is rocket science ?
16:01 < karasz> no luck
16:01 < minto> Dutch police using normal cellphones with digital camera.
16:01 < karasz> packages buit, after that same stuff nu gem
16:02 < karasz> I guess i wil go in Suth Africa
16:02 < karasz> maybe i find some gem s there
16:02 < morfoh> minto: they must ensure that the s*cr*t s*rv*c* can listen their calls ;)
16:02 < karasz> anyway made a mine -iv ...
16:02 < morfoh> karasz: what do you want to do in south africa ?
16:03 < karasz> look for gems
16:03 < karasz> diamond gem (s)
16:03 < karasz> go mining
16:03 < morfoh> yes ... but I guess you should visit congo then ;p
16:03 < karasz> maybe
16:03 < karasz> i will look into it...
16:03 < morfoh> but it isn't a real friendly place afaik
16:04 < minto> South Africa is not too bad. I like is there.
16:04 < karasz> if i miss friendlyness there i wil mirc #t2...:)
16:05 < karasz> PATH do get updated when I reboot?
16:06 < morfoh> 4 years ago I was on a border near Congo and I was shocked about the brutality the military is doing their "things" (mostly transporting blood diamonds and weapons)
16:06 < karasz> because right now libXpm.so.4 :cannot open shared object file: No such file...
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16:06 < keinek> hi
16:06 < minto> hi Keinek
16:07 < morfoh> hi keinek 
16:07 < karasz> hi keinek
16:09 < karasz> cu guys
16:09 < morfoh> cu karasz 
16:09 < karasz> i will return later with my not working Desktop
16:10 < minto> bye karasz
16:26 < minto> morfoh: Have you been to your boss already?
16:42 < rxr> valentin: with the new batch handling code the AV220 nearly feeds papers thru without stopping at all @ 300dpi 1-bit ...
16:45 < morfoh> hi scanning rxr ;)
17:01 < rxr> with this scanenr driver scanning is indeed fun ,-)
17:02 < morfoh> :D
17:15 < rxr> me away soon
17:16 < morfoh> rxr: cu
17:17 < rxr> yeahb cu
17:45 < morfoh> minto: let's see how quick your noisy machine will build the bootdisk target :)
17:45 < minto> morfoh: I wonder how long it take to build the boot-64 stuff
17:45 < minto> :-)
17:46 < morfoh> hehe :D
17:46 < minto> If all goes well it should be pretty fast. But unfortunately I have to shut it down around 19:00 or 19:30.
17:46 < minto> Depends on the time Merlyn goes to bed.
17:52 < minto> Uhh, boot target has more packages than generic-minimal?
17:55 < morfoh> minto: ok ... how long took minimal ?
17:56 < minto> I am not sure since it stopped a few times on dietlibc.
17:57 < minto> But once it gets into stage 5 after the kernal packages is goes really quick.
17:57 < morfoh> I think the last bootdisk target I build was on a Athlon-XP 2.6 and it took 3h
17:57 < morfoh> then your SMP Opteron should be much quicker
17:57 < minto> Yepp, it should.
17:58 < morfoh> # cat /proc/cpuinfo <-- this looks really nice :)
17:58 < minto> I think glibc stage 1 takes about 15 minutes.
17:59 < morfoh> ok
17:59 < minto> the machine is nice, expect for the internal jumbo jet (noise).
18:00 < morfoh> yes ... I can imagine that is quite disturbing
18:00 < morfoh> I'll take a shower now ...  cu later 
18:02 < morfoh> minto: # cat /proc/meminfo <-- this looks even better 
18:02 < minto> :-D
18:03 < morfoh> did you enabled highmem support ?
18:03 < morfoh> == 17:46:18 =[1]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.5 2.1.0-rc2].
18:03 < morfoh> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled.
18:03 < morfoh> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 1.27% cache hits so far.
18:03 < morfoh> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
18:03 < morfoh> -> Preparing build in src.glibc.1120664777.19080.0
18:03 < morfoh> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-glibc.out
18:03 < morfoh> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 1.27% (49 hits, 3811 misses)
18:03 < morfoh> -> $root/var/adm/logs/1-glibc.out -> 1-glibc.log
18:03 < morfoh> == 07/06/05 18:01:11 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
18:03 < minto> 64 bits kernel? Should not be required according to rxr
18:03 < morfoh> ah ok
18:03 < minto> about 15 minutes :-)
18:04 < morfoh> ack :)
18:04 < minto> Have you looked at the disks already?
18:04 < morfoh> ok ... then I think we'll have a bootdisk before Merlyn goes to bed
18:04 < morfoh> nah
18:05 < morfoh> minto: I won't .... because I fear I'll start to cry 
18:05 < minto> 4 times 300 Gb disks
18:05 < minto> 3 of then in a raid 0 (stripped)
18:05 < morfoh> minto: if have to go and cry :)
18:05 < minto> to speed up througput
18:06 < morfoh> the 4th is spare ?
18:06 < minto> 4th is used for rootfs
18:06 < morfoh> ic
18:06 < minto>  /mnt/space is for the raid stuff
18:06 < minto> this if where t2 is building.
18:07 < morfoh> yep
18:07 < morfoh> ok ... taking a shower ... I can't smell myself anymore ... the whole house had no water this morning :\
18:07 < minto> added trac ticket #20
18:08 < morfoh> .oO( seems that lilo is sth. like a crack head )o :)
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18:45 < minto> == 18:16:42 =[1]=> Building base/linux26 [2.6.11.12 2.1.0-rc2].
18:45 < minto> == 07/06/05 18:38:14 =[1]=> Finished building package linux26.
18:45 < minto> No even 22 minutes :-)
18:45 < minto> no = not
18:45 < morfoh> yep
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18:59 < CIA-9> chris * r10041 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.conf: 
18:59 < CIA-9> * added and exported LD_RUN_PATH to fix snort finding the mysql libs
18:59 < CIA-9> * solved: Issue #7
18:59 < CIA-9> * thanks for the "inspiration" mtr ;)
18:59 < mipe> Error logs from system-2.1.0-rc2-x86-64-athlon64-desktop:
18:59 < mipe> 673 builds total, 482 completed fine, 18 with errors.
19:00 < morfoh> hey mipe 
19:00 < mipe> hi morfoh
19:00 < morfoh> how is it in suomi ?
19:02 < mipe> atm, quite hot. and having few pcs on doesnt help it either
19:04 < morfoh> mipe: hehe ... but you should enjoy having the sun on the northern globe :)
19:04 < mipe> oh its jeru, didnt know that you changed nick...
19:04 < morfoh> mipe: hehe :D
19:05 < minto> mipe: he confused me too a while ago.
19:05 < morfoh> mipe: yes ... some day there was some confusion because another jeru showed up on the scene here so I decided to change my nick ;)
19:06 < morfoh> minto: but you figured it out quite fast ;)
19:07 < minto> Because valentin helped me out.
19:07 < minto> He said guess who morfoh is.
19:07 < morfoh> ah ... valentin the small cheater ;)
19:08 < minto> 165 builds total, 28 completed fine, 0 with errors.
19:08 < minto> Only a few more minutes before I have to shut down.
19:09 < morfoh> btw, trac is quite nsmart ... it recogniced "solved: Issue #7"  <-- https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/7
19:10 < morfoh> minto: I stoped bootdisk! I will log out ok ?
19:11 < morfoh> minto: you can restart it anyway ... tomorrow
19:11 < minto> ack, but there are still a few more minutes left.
19:12 < morfoh> minto: start it again ;)
19:12 < minto> I just did
19:12 < morfoh> good :)
19:13 < morfoh> I hope it will work tomorrow that you can proceed building nice AMD64 targets 
19:13 < minto> :-) me too. But reference-64 gave kernel problems.
19:18 < karasz> re hi
19:18 < morfoh> hey karasz 
19:19 < karasz> hey morfoh
19:19 < karasz> i thought you would say "Again, I can not belive this guy, when will he let me be....."   :)
19:20 < morfoh> karasz: I can hide if I want to ;)
19:21 < karasz> true... :))
19:22 < karasz> anyway I decided not to go to South Africa...
19:22 < morfoh> karasz: why not ? why did you changed your mind so quickly ?
19:24 < karasz> because i am a stubornd sb and i would not let go so easy
19:25 < karasz> i had coffe in between...:)
19:25 < minto> 165 builds total, 57 completed fine, 0 with errors.
19:25 < minto> arrived at stage 2
19:25 < minto> :-)
19:26 < morfoh> minto: tres bon :)
19:26 < minto> :-( Now shutting down noisy
19:32 < karasz> jade is my problem..
19:33 < karasz> i mean gtkdoc is relying on jade or openjade
19:33 < karasz> neither of which is on my system
19:35 < karasz> i still can't figure out why no gtkdoc means no shadow.gem or no sysvinit.gem ????
19:36 < karasz> anyone interested in looking at a build_target.log?
19:36 < morfoh> karasz: indeed that's a bit strange ... what does :/scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg YOURTARET says ?
19:37 < karasz> [5] gnome2/gtkdoc
19:38 < karasz> 674 builds total, 338 completed fine, 1 with errors.
19:38 < morfoh> karasz: your target isn't finished !
19:38 < karasz> by the way,
19:39 < karasz> i did a mine -iv /....*gem
19:41 < karasz> it exited because cannot buikd gtkdoc?
19:42 < karasz> sorry abt my typing but i have 2 kbds in front of me
19:42 < morfoh> karasz: just run "touch build/YOURTARGET/var/adm/logs/5-gtkdoc.log" and restart Build-Target again
19:43 < morfoh> karasz: you can solve gtkdoc issue later and it will proceed building the other packages
19:43 < CIA-9> msluis * r10042 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-150/ (extract-x86-64.diff extract-x86.diff sun-jre-150.desc): * updated sun-jre-150 (1.5.0_03 -> 1.5.0_04)
19:43 < CIA-9> msluis * r10043 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-150/ (extract-x86-64.diff extract-x86.diff sun-jdk-150.desc): * updated sun-jdk-150 (1.5.0_03 -> 1.5.0_04)
19:44 < karasz> did that
19:44 < karasz> no good
19:45 < karasz> doesnt build anything just displays that binary file.... not present and exit
19:46 < karasz> :/scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg YOURTARET is the same
19:46 < karasz> gnome2/gtkdoc
19:46 < karasz> 674 builds total, 338 completed fine, 1 with errors.
19:47 < morfoh> karasz: please! touch the gtkdoc.log file as described and run "./scripts/Build-Target -cfg YOURTARGET" !
19:47 < morfoh> not Create-ErrList !
19:47 < karasz> i did the touch and rerun build target
19:48 < karasz> after that i ran create-errlist
19:48 < morfoh> karasz: hmmmm .... 
19:48 < karasz> i ran it because i thought it would give me some info...
19:49 < karasz> anyway i'm doing something very wrong here
19:49 < karasz> i did run a build for bootdisk...
19:49 < karasz> and now it's building glibc
19:49 < karasz> should it do that?
19:49 < morfoh> karasz: go to the directory where you touched the empty gtkdoc.log file
19:50 < morfoh> and take a look 
19:50 < karasz> there i have it
19:50 < karasz> 5-gtkdoc.log 0 bytes
19:51 < morfoh> are there any othe log files ?
19:51 < morfoh> other
19:51 < karasz> yes
19:51 < rxr> re
19:51 < karasz> a lot of them
19:51 < morfoh> hi rxr 
19:51 < karasz> hi rxr
19:52 < morfoh> rxr: squashfs2.2 <-- I updated it localy and will test it on embedded ... take a look at the changelog if you got some time ;)
19:52 < _Ragnar_> what should I put in an [A] tag when there are many authors?
19:52 < rxr> _Ragnar_: if there are not too many all ,-)
19:52 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: multiple [A]'s are allowed
19:52 < rxr> in sepeate As ...
19:53 < rxr> if too many only the most important ones#
19:53 < rxr> valentin: awake ?
19:54 < _Ragnar_> O_O what if I don't know the important ones?:)
19:54 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: :D 
19:55 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: then you should toss a coin ;)
19:55 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/minised/trunk/
19:55 < rxr> ^- yet new ,-)
19:55 < morfoh> rxr: so you took over minised from ESR ?
19:56 < rxr> yep
19:56 < rxr> cool, isn't it ?
19:56 < morfoh> offically ? ;)
19:56 < morfoh> yep
19:57 < rxr> yep
19:59 < rxr> "Yes.  But let's do this right.  If you're going to take it over, I should ship 
19:59 < rxr> you the whole RCS history so you can map it into a Subversion repository
19:59 < rxr> with the whole history.  Do you know how to use cvs2svn?"
19:59 < rxr> ^- Eric S. Raymond
20:02 < morfoh> rxr: btw, I still have a squashfs change on my local copy, using pkg_pre_linux* if you remember. It is proven to be stable and a bit smarter than the current way. Can I commit it ? What do you think ?
20:02 < rxr> ok - commit
20:02  * rxr saving this ISDN bill again - cu
20:02 < morfoh> rxr: yippie 
20:02 < morfoh> cu 
20:02 < morfoh> :)
20:02 < karasz> cu
20:03 < morfoh> ok ... /me away shortly too 
20:03 < karasz> cu around too
20:04 < CIA-9> ragnar * r10044 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (8 files): * add package madwifi, the driver for the atheros wirelss chipset
20:04  * _Ragnar_ stealthily inserts an 'e'
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20:28  * karasz reboot
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20:31  * karasz is back again
20:34 < morfoh> minto: 39 builds total, 39 completed fine, 0 with errors. <-- embedded fw with StrongSwan IPSec :)
20:35 < morfoh> 5.4M <-- rootfs size
20:35 < morfoh> .oO( I simply love t2 :)o
20:39 < minto> morfoh: very nice. What is it for?
20:39 < minto> Help! my wife chases we off again :-)
20:39 < minto> brb
21:32 < rxr> rehi
21:33 < minto> hi rxr
21:33 < rxr> hi minto 
21:33 < rxr> Committed revision 32.
21:33 < rxr> ^- minised
21:34 < _Ragnar_> morfoh: can you commit that target?:)
21:34 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: I will
21:34 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:35 < minto> rxr: can this minised speed up T2 as well. There are about a hunderd sed calls in  ./script/*
21:35 < morfoh> _Ragnar_: thanks btw for the lots of uclibc patches and work :)
21:35 < _Ragnar_> :) yw
21:35 < rxr> minto: I think minised use in t2 scripts will not be significant
21:36 < rxr> but we need to rewrite the Config ...
21:36 < minto> ohh
21:36 < morfoh> cu later ... 
21:36 < rxr> cu morfoh 
21:38 < _Ragnar_> morfoh: what hardware does it run on?
21:41 < rxr> normal x86 I would say
21:41 < rxr> or any you build it for ,-)
21:43  * _Ragnar_ point to the 'embedded'
21:43 < _Ragnar_> ;)
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22:00 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005]
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22:00 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw  ] [ morfoh] [ rxr   ] [ sparc-kly] 
22:00 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ karasz] [ mtr_  ] [ rxr_  ] [ valentin ] 
22:00 [ CIA-9    ] [ minto ] [ nzg   ] [ SerWou] 
22:00 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
22:00 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 21:15:33 2004
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22:00 < rxr_> uhm - why does this line need to reconnect when I once have ISDN open here in the Switzerland ...
22:00 < rxr_> well - anyway - soon off
22:03 < CIA-9> rene * r10046 /trunk/package/base/minised/fixes.patch: * the next important minised fix
22:04 < CIA-9> rene * r10047 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/initrdinit: 
22:04 < rxr_> cu all
22:04 < CIA-9> * more code perfection and saving some bytes in the initrd by using
22:04 < CIA-9>  ; seperated commands as my latested fixed minised is able to parse
22:10 < karasz> cu all another time
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23:04 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10048 /trunk/package/network/tor/ (tor.conf tor.desc): * updated tor (0.1.0.10 -> 0.1.0.11)
23:04 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10049 /trunk/package/develop/libevent/libevent.desc: * updated libevent (1.0c -> 1.0e)
23:05 < CIA-9> sebastian * r10050 /trunk/package/x11/windowmaker/windowmaker.desc: * updated windowmaker (0.91.0 -> 0.92.0)
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23:22 < sepp> hi *
23:57 < morfoh> re hi
23:57 < morfoh> hi sepp 
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