T2 IRC Log: 2005-06-20

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--- Log opened Mon Jun 20 00:00:00 2005
00:13 < sepp> it should output the changed files
00:15 < _Ragnar_> rxr: I'm still getting those errors even in embedded
00:15 < _Ragnar_> what could that be? O_O
00:29 < keinek> where is the stable version of t2?
00:29 < keinek> i cant find there in the web page.
00:30 < mnemoc> keinek: http://t2.geeks.cl:6969/
00:30 < keinek> a need the svn
00:30 < keinek> mnemoc, what Fu**!! dont appear in the web page!
00:30 < mnemoc> keinek: rene will announce it today, i guess
00:30 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_, rxr, keinek btw :p
00:30 < keinek> if you, and the rest are sleeping what the hell should i do?
00:31 < mnemoc> hit your head on the monitor three times
00:31 < keinek> i will i will.
00:32 < sepp> the last 48h my bt client shared nothing :(
00:32 < keinek> use mldonkey sepp
00:32 < keinek> that work fine.
00:33 < keinek> or ... hit your head on the monitor three times, sometimes works :P
00:34 < mnemoc> :)
00:34 < mnemoc> brb
00:34 < sepp> hit the tft or crt?
00:34 < keinek> do you know what s.o.s. means?
00:35 < sepp> me? yes
00:35 < keinek> what means?
00:35 < keinek> 10
00:35 < keinek> 9
00:35 < keinek> 8
00:35 < keinek> 7
00:36 < keinek> 6
00:36 < keinek> 5
00:36 < keinek> 4
00:36 < keinek> 3
00:36 < keinek> 2
00:36 < keinek> 1
00:36 < sepp> save our souls
00:36 < keinek> just in time!
00:36 < keinek> Right!
00:39 < keinek> sepp: you have won a wassup cat
00:39 < keinek> http://www.red-handed.com.ar/wassup/
00:40 < keinek> enjoy it
00:40 < sepp> hmm i do not understand the read text :(
00:40 < sepp> red*
00:41 < keinek> that means "join the clan of red-handed cat, put this picture in your messenger"
00:41 < keinek> but that was not important
00:41 < keinek> only the picture is funny.
00:42 < sepp> but i use irssi
00:42 < sepp> but it is a nice cat picture :)
00:43 < keinek> yeah!
00:43 < keinek> you cant hear the sound?
00:44 < keinek> you need firefox and the flash plugins
00:44 < sepp> yes
00:44 < keinek> WASSSUUUUUUP!
00:44 < keinek> :P
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00:46 < sepp> but i have a cat allergy - sniff
00:57 < mnemoc> :)
01:03 < sepp> would it be a legal problem to include flash - i font like it but there are so many sites that require the flash plugin :(
01:06 < sepp> uhm i talked too much with lawyers lately
01:07 < mnemoc> there are gpl flash plugins
01:07 < mnemoc> and we can also include the 'real' ones as far as we don't mirror the files and don't distribute ISOs with it
01:08 < mnemoc> as we do with sun java
01:10 < mnemoc> i told rene about this issue, but he don't like flash and he wont add the package. but you can send a patch, the 'problem' is that none of us has expent time on this
01:11 < sepp> i dont really care but without flash i often feel like with only 1 leg
01:12 < mnemoc> same do i
01:12 < mnemoc> i would also need java plugin to use my bank' site :\
01:16 < sepp> i dont like flash but some users with only one finger like it :'(
01:17 < sepp> and i always find flash only sites
01:18 < mnemoc> that's why i told rene we needed flash on livecd :)
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01:23 < sepp> i crawl into bed now
01:23 < sepp> good night all
01:23 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp
01:59 < valentin> re
02:07 < mnemoc> re valentin
02:09 < valentin> hi mnemoc
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02:52 < valentin> gn8
02:58 < mnemoc> n8 valentin
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03:21 < keinek> hi
06:56 < mnemoc> *yawn*
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06:59 < keinek> hi
06:59 < mnemoc> hi keinek
06:59 < keinek> mnemoc
06:59 < keinek> i was lost all my system
06:59 < keinek> :(
06:59 < keinek> 60 gigas of anime.
06:59 < keinek> :(
06:59 < keinek> configs... logs... mails...
07:00 < keinek> for play with the partition with software privative.
07:00 < _Ragnar_> O_O
07:00 < _Ragnar_> :/
07:00 < keinek> i need the command svn for stable trunk.
07:00 < keinek> i need download all the sources again :(
07:00 < keinek> T2 now is running again, and work fine :)
07:01 < keinek> but i need the tree
07:01 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable
07:01 < keinek> thanks mnemoc
07:01 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk t2-trunk
07:01 < keinek> that info is in any place?
07:02 < mnemoc> http://www.t2-project.org/download.html
07:03 < keinek> in this page only the trunk
07:03 < keinek> no stable
07:04 < keinek> mnemoc tell me.
07:04 < keinek> i was lost my red-handed target.
07:04 < keinek> The trunk that use for create that target, is in the target??
07:04 < keinek> in any part?
07:05 < keinek> i thanks god... i found it in another computer
07:05 < keinek> :=
07:05 < keinek> :)
07:06 < mnemoc> :)
07:08 < mnemoc> https://www2.t2-project.org/download/2.1/
07:08 < keinek> and how you arriba to that page?
07:08 < keinek> arrive*
07:10 < mnemoc> openning firefox
07:10 < mnemoc> writting https://www2.t2-project.org on 'address'
07:10 < mnemoc> click in download
07:10 < mnemoc> click in stable branch
07:10 < keinek> :)
07:10 < keinek> ok
07:32 < mnemoc> gn8
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07:50 < minto> moin
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09:17 < rxr> re
09:17 < _Ragnar_> re
09:18 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_
09:18 < _Ragnar_> moin rene
09:41 < _Ragnar_> O_O
09:41 < _Ragnar_> why is module-init-tools compiled with dietlibc?
10:04 < valentin> moin
11:09 < rxr> rehi
11:09 < rxr> valentin: I have not brought the cards yet
11:09 < rxr> the hall was too much crowded and I need more research first
11:09 < rxr> ouhm - if this monitor continues to blink around colorly I buy a TFT today ...
11:12 < valentin> hi rxr
11:14 < rxr> hi valentin
11:17 < rxr> ouhm - damn CRT ...
11:18 < rxr> damn - now I even can't sell it anymore ...
11:18 < rxr> for say 10EUR ...
11:25 < rxr> http://www.saturn.de/frontend/offer/index.cfm?fa=show_details_agr&navi=offer&subnavi=detail&prod_id=1134300&grp_id=371000011&sub_grp_id=371000015&location=25
11:25 < rxr> ?
11:25 < rxr> price is ok
11:27 < rxr> hm - but only has a VGA input ...
11:50 < valentin> rxr: ah - you either pay 2*29 Eur for both directions or 39 Eur single travel
11:50 < valentin> so we should think about the date of return buy both directions ?
11:51 < valentin> have to leave now, cu later
11:52 < rxr> cu
12:04 < rxr> minto: hi
12:04 < rxr> minto: should I rather come tomorrow or so - or is friday early enough
12:04 * rxr shortly away
12:04 < rxr> minto: see mail anyway ,-)
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13:44 < azureus> moin
13:57 < azureus> Is anyone here?
13:58 < rxr> re
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14:09 < valentin> re
14:11 < valentin> rxr: do you know that kde allows runtime switching of display resolution (though it seems to be a bit experimental)
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14:14 < valentin> rxr: live cd runs without problems on a dell inspiron 8600
14:14 < valentin> but the resolution grabbing could be a bit more clever and detect 16:9 display geometry
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14:17 < azureus> re
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14:26 < rxr> re
14:26 < rxr> valentin: you do not have time to shorly visit me after your work ?
14:26 < rxr> I wonder if it are my eyes or the TFT that flickers in some grey tones
14:26 < rxr> susan does not see it ...
14:26 < valentin> rxr: hm
14:26 < rxr> valentin: yes
14:26 < rxr> valentin: kde has a randr applet
14:26 < rxr> you can runtime switch the res
14:27 < rxr> xrandr is the text frontend shipped with X
14:27 < valentin> if it will be not too late today i could come and take a look
14:27 < rxr> if the display does not propose some 16:9 res X will not pick it ..
14:27 < rxr> ok
14:27 < rxr> or sometime else
14:27 < valentin> this randr applet displays the odd resolutions
14:27 < rxr> I have 14 day bring back due to picked at saturn
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14:47 < mnemoc> moin
14:47 < azureus> hello mnemoc
14:49 < valentin> moin mnemoc
14:54 < rxr> moin mnemoc
14:54 < mnemoc> moin azureus, valentin, rxr
15:01 < rxr> mnemoc: can you post links of the regressions I should look into first ?
15:03 < mnemoc> just the new, or a priorized list considering all?
15:03 < rxr> the ones with topdir or other stricted checking erros or that are important to you
15:03 < rxr> if you like prio them all ,-)
15:04 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/log/5-gst-plugins.err
15:04 < mnemoc> that produce a chain of 5 errors
15:07 < rxr> okok
15:08 < mnemoc> rxr: what about the announcemente?
15:08 < mnemoc> :p
15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: I wanted your ok - and you have been missing yesterday
15:08 < rxr> are the available ISOs test installed and all well =?
15:09 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/
15:09 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0219.jpg
15:10 < rxr> ^- my new, lighter desk
15:10 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0217.jpg
15:10 < rxr> ^- intermediate test before throwing the CRTs away
15:10 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/new/imgp0179.jpg
15:10 < rxr> ^- thy CRTs alone ,-)
15:11 < mnemoc> :)
15:11 < mnemoc> i installed, on qemu, successfully both minimal-pmmx and desktop-p4, but i didn't tested further
15:12 < rxr> the 2nd display I brougth in my life - the first was this 17" CRT that can do 1600x1200 - was 1400DM ~ 700EUR or so years ago...
15:12 < rxr> and it was only defective - damn thing ...
15:12 < mnemoc> nice
15:12 < rxr> all the other crappy CRTs made it to me for free ...
15:12 < mnemoc> uhm?
15:13 < rxr> yes ?
15:13 < mnemoc> new for free, or used?
15:13 < mnemoc> yes what?
15:13 < rxr> used of course
15:13 < rxr> the 21" one was luck when I was a apprentice
15:14 < rxr> and another 20" or so CRT with a SUN this year
15:14 < rxr> but I think I'll get rid of it, too
15:14 < rxr> they waste too much space and energy
15:14 < rxr> and the Sun one needs about 10 minutes to heat up before the picture stopps scrolling thru and is reasonable clear ...
15:14 < mnemoc> oh
15:21 < rxr> yeah - Sun experience ,-)
15:25 < mnemoc> :)
15:39 < rxr> cu a bit later /me grabbing the fixed iBook @ gracis - cu
15:39 < rxr> gravis even
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15:42 < valentin> cu rxr and do not forget our tickets !
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16:11 < keinek> morning
16:11 < mnemoc> moin keinek
16:21 < mnemoc> keinek: did t2@bt worked for you?
16:24 < rxr> hi
16:24 * rxr at gravix
16:24 < rxr> gravis ...
16:24 < rxr> on some very huge TFT ...
16:24 < rxr> 30" or so ..l
16:24 < rxr> onlz worth 3000EUR ...
16:25 < mnemoc> only?
16:25 < rxr> seems to be at 2560 x 1600 ...
16:25 < mnemoc> rene.rebe@intel.com will buy two
16:26 < rxr> buy _
16:26 < rxr> ? even
16:27 < rxr> valentin: if you post deails about what train to take in the next 30 minuets or so I cagrab it in this ssh ...
16:27 < mnemoc> get :)
16:27 < rxr> cu later
16:27 < mnemoc> cu
16:27 < rxr> mnemoc: get ?
16:29 < valentin> rxr: still there ?
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16:54 < keinek> mnemoc, what is t2@bt?
16:54 < mnemoc> t2 at bittorrent
16:57 < keinek> no
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17:03 < rxr> re
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17:04 < rxr> did I mention 30" are big .... ??
17:05 < mnemoc> :)
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17:20 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 TAGGED - official .iso creation in progress | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
17:20 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jun 9 04:36:32 2005]
17:20 [Users #t2]
17:20 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-12] [ lewellyn] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
17:20 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ sepp ]
17:20 [ azu1 ] [ keinek] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou]
17:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
17:20 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
17:20 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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17:45 < _Ragnar_> moin
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18:10 < rxr_> re
18:10 -!- You're now known as rxr
18:10 < rxr> so - new TFT display and repaired iBook
18:10 < rxr> aside that I did not too much real work ...
18:12 < valentin> hi rxr
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18:22 < veki> hi
18:23 < veki> I am compiling minimal router target , just for practising
18:23 < veki> so far it goes well
18:23 < veki> :-)
18:23 < rxr> .o(the router is very custom - it might not be easy to use)
18:25 < veki> We have guys here who are really excellent in that. I think that they can use it. Anyway, it i sidea topractise while preparing for more complex tasks -builds
18:26 < veki> Some my colleagues are hardware engineers who are developing adsl and other cards running under Linux
18:26 < veki> they do things with custom kernels and processor boards etc. so I think that router will not be problme for them
18:29 < veki> rxr: thank you for help yesterday, it was great, you, valentin and mnemoc helped a lot :-)
18:36 < rxr> veki: nice to see - no problem ,-)
18:37 < veki> thanks again, we will be in touch and I will maybe sometimes bother you, but that i sat the neginnning only :-)
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18:44 < veki> one question, maybe it is stupid
18:44 < veki> Actually, does t2 goes to the internet during compilation to download something if needed or so?
18:45 < valentin> no, you have to run ./scripts/Download before building
18:45 < veki> that is fine, I have done that, i just aworreid if it needs to go during compilation process. OK.
18:45 < veki> thanks
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18:53 < veki> I have to go now, cu later
18:53 < azu1> bye
18:53 < veki> bye
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19:11 < azu1> I make now the first international T2 board!
19:11 < azu1> I think it will go online on 8 o'clock
19:24 < sepp> hi all
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19:31 < morfoh> hi
19:36 < sepp> hi morfoh
19:36 < morfoh> hi sepp ... how you doing ?
19:36 < sepp> good :)
19:37 < sepp> everything ok with your tribe king morfoh ?
19:37 < morfoh> sepp: nice to hear :)
19:38 < morfoh> sepp: ... hmmm ... "everything ok"? please choose another topic, but my tribe is ok ;)
19:39 < morfoh> sepp: please say "stop" for stopping the random topic generator ;)
19:39 < sepp> stop ?
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19:41 < morfoh> sepp: didn't hear your "stop" because I were in the kitchen ...
19:44 < azu1> hi
19:45 < sepp> hello azu1
19:45 < morfoh> hi azu1
19:50 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
19:50 < mnemoc> new flat?
19:50 < CIA-12> chris * r9779 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.85.1 -> 0.86rc1)
19:52 < rxr> R 2.1.1
19:52 < rxr> hi morfoh !
19:52 < morfoh> hi rxr !
19:53 < mnemoc> .oO( 2.1.1? )o
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19:53 < tilix> hi
19:54 < mnemoc> hi tilix
19:54 < morfoh> hi tilix
19:56 < CIA-12> chris * r9780 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.2.0 -> 3.2.2)
19:56 < tilix> rxr: in the SPI-INC list there is a discussion about a possible problem: www.linux-mark.org wants 200$ per year for a use of the mark Linux. Does T2 use some Linux marks?
19:56 < tilix> just the name
19:56 < _Ragnar_> wtf?
19:57 < _Ragnar_> getting NXDOMAIN for that
19:57 < tilix> authorised by Linus Torvalds
19:58 < mnemoc> http://www.linuxmark.org/
19:58 < tilix> yep
20:01 < _Ragnar_> does t2 carry linux in it?
20:01 < tilix> "Non-Profit Tier"
20:02 < tilix> "Annual Fee – US$200/year for each SUBLICENSEE MARK incorporating the SUBLICENSED TRADEMARK"
20:02 < tilix> http://www.linuxmark.org/forms/linux_licence_doc.html
20:02 < tilix> Schedule A
20:02 < mnemoc> go hurd go
20:02 < tilix> Debian people are very angry :)
20:03 < _Ragnar_> I'd just drop the linux from the title
20:03 < rxr> tilix: what mark ? trademark ?
20:04 < _Ragnar_> trademark for carrying linux(R) in the title
20:04 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.linuxmark.org/who_needs.html
20:06 < _Ragnar_> t2 doesn't do that
20:07 < mnemoc> torvals is an idiot anyway
20:07 < _Ragnar_> ?
20:07 < _Ragnar_> as I see it, he needs to told title to the trademark, and if he doesn't enforce it, it'll be deregistered
20:08 < _Ragnar_> s/told/hold/
20:08 < _Ragnar_> so it makes sense to have this
20:08 < mnemoc> .oO
20:09 < _Ragnar_> you can still market anything freely as long as it doesn't have linux in it's title
20:09 < sepp> linux(R)
20:10 < _Ragnar_> so rock linux might need to apply for a license, but t2 project very likely doesn't
20:10 < CIA-12> chris * r9781 /trunk/package/develop/trac/trac.conf: * added trac.conf to adjust some default directories in trac's siteconfig
20:11 < _Ragnar_> rxr: btw ... duh ... the files out of basedir error for linux26 was created to out of date modutils ;p
20:12 < CIA-12> chris * r9782 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1)
20:12 * mnemoc kicks _Ragnar_ :)
20:13 * morfoh kicks mnemoc :)
20:13 < _Ragnar_> ;p
20:13 < _Ragnar_> but now I'm getting:
20:13 < _Ragnar_> Creating binary package file for linux26.
20:13 < _Ragnar_> -> Building build/.../pkgs/linux26.tar.bz2
20:13 < _Ragnar_> tar: usr/src/linux26-patches/15-install-in-boot.patch: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
20:13 < _Ragnar_> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
20:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: no kick back ? :p
20:14 < mnemoc> i was away :p
20:15 < morfoh> oh :)
20:15 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: that is a missing usr/src/linux26-patches/
20:15 < _Ragnar_> how would it go missing?
20:16 < mnemoc> no idea
20:16 < mnemoc> uhm... oh
20:16 < mnemoc> my mistake
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20:21 < _Ragnar_> ?
20:23 < mnemoc> the file was flisted but not installed
20:23 < _Ragnar_> :)
20:23 < mnemoc> flist is recicled
20:23 < _Ragnar_> how to fix?
20:23 < mnemoc> but linux26-patches re-created everytime
20:23 < mnemoc> remove that old patch from flist
20:24 < _Ragnar_> ok
20:25 < _Ragnar_> hmm then libpng fails cuz it doesn't find itself ... weird ... why is libpng installed for an embedded target? O_O
20:27 < rxr> _Ragnar_: as test - because it is used for the psion - and other more full-featured embedded would even utilize X ...
20:31 < _Ragnar_> oh ok
20:40 < tilix> bye
20:40 < morfoh> cu tilix
20:41 < _Ragnar_> so why doesn't it find itself? O_O
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20:51 < _Ragnar_> ah okay
20:51 < _Ragnar_> pngtest.o(.note+0x10): undefined reference to `__you_tried_to_link_a_dietlibc_object_against_glibc'
20:51 < _Ragnar_> ;p
20:53 < mnemoc> hehe
20:55 < lewellyn> :)
21:10 < CIA-12> sebastian * r9783 /trunk/package/network/rt2500/2.6.12.patch: * fixed rt2500 for 2.6.12
21:20 < CIA-12> rene * r9784 /trunk/package/network/pv/pv.desc: * updated pv (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1)
21:20 < CIA-12> rene * r9785 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.01.10 -> 2.01.12)
21:20 < CIA-12> rene * r9786 /trunk/package/audio/qjackctl/qjackctl.desc: * updated qjackctl (0.2.15a -> 0.2.16)
21:21 < CIA-12> rene * r9787 /trunk/package/www/dillo/dillo.desc: * updated dillo (0.8.4 -> 0.8.5)
21:23 < azu1> Now the english Board is online!!!
21:24 < CIA-12> rene * r9788 /trunk/package/x11/libart_lgpl23/libart_lgpl23.desc: * updated libart_lgpl23 (2.3.16 -> 2.3.17)
21:24 < lewellyn> azu1++
21:24 < CIA-12> rene * r9789 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-parser/perl-html-parser.desc: * updated perl-html-parser (3.27 -> 3.45)
21:24 < mnemoc> rxr: will we announce rc1?
21:24 < rxr> yes
21:24 < azu1> http://t2.pc-help-city.de/eng/
21:25 < rxr> mnemoc: I draft the message and send it to you to read over it ?
21:25 < lewellyn> rxr: btw, i was looking at the supported hardware for the livecd. have you been updating it?
21:25 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
21:25 < rxr> lewellyn: not in the last days
21:25 < rxr> but first I need to lie down shortly - my stomarch is a bit rumbling ..
21:26 < mnemoc> anyone understands dot (graphviz) pagination? valentin?
21:26 < rxr> valentin has evening dinner ,-)
21:26 < mnemoc> :)
21:28 < azu1> What do you think about the board?
21:28 < lewellyn> mnemoc: you can do multiple pages with dot? o_O
21:28 < lewellyn> azu1: looking now
21:28 < sepp> nice
21:28 < azu1> You can also regist
21:28 < mnemoc> lewellyn: using ps output, yes
21:29 < mnemoc> lewellyn: but i can't control it :\
21:29 < lewellyn> Total Members: 2
21:29 < lewellyn> :)
21:29 < lewellyn> mnemoc: i've never been able to do anything but get like 40" wide ps files.
21:29 < lewellyn> which i then have to manually go and chop up. and that sucks
21:30 < azu1> thx @ lewellyn
21:30 < lewellyn> azu1: we need more members! :)
21:30 < azu1> who will be the number three
21:30 * lewellyn points to mnemoc :)
21:30 * mnemoc hides
21:32 < mnemoc> azu1: can you integrate M2F there?
21:32 < rxr> cu soon
21:32 < mnemoc> rxr: :'(
21:32 < azu1> I will sent a press information,I think then we have alots of useres
21:32 < lewellyn> sleep well rxr
21:33 < azu1> what is M2F?
21:33 < azu1> cu rxr
21:33 < azu1> I see there is a mistake in the board
21:33 < mnemoc> http://www.mail2forum.com/
21:35 < azu1> I tink there is no add-on for SMF
21:36 < mnemoc> sad
21:36 < mnemoc> same people refuse to use forums
21:37 < azu1> But I will see what I can do
21:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: sth. against merging recent sqlite update to branch 2.1 ?
21:48 < mnemoc> does everything depending in sqlite build with the new version?
21:49 < morfoh> mnemoc: at least the ones I'm using ... but I'll check it again ;)
21:51 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/livecd/regressions.html <--- after we solve these issues i'll run a new reference, including sqlite if you request it :)
21:52 < mnemoc> err
21:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: damn box freezed again :/
21:52 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- _these_ issues
21:52 < morfoh> ah! :)
21:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: f*ck what the heck ?
21:53 < mnemoc> alsa update breaks wine, for exaple
21:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, should we enable gcj for desktop target so far ?
21:53 < mnemoc> i prefer kaffe
21:53 < mnemoc> gcc package is fat enough
21:54 < morfoh> ok ok :)
21:54 < morfoh> mnemoc: didn't saw that kaffe wasn't build due to download problems ;)
21:54 < mnemoc> oh
22:16 < rxr> re
22:16 < mnemoc> re rxr
22:17 < minto> hi all
22:17 < rxr> hi minto
22:17 < minto> rxr: I am working on a mail for you right now.
22:17 < rxr> we booked the train tickets today
22:17 < minto> rxr: comming after the concert is fine.
22:17 < lewellyn> re rxr
22:18 < rxr> we will go on Th to the concert and I'll be in amsterdam in friday then
22:18 < lewellyn> who do i petition for additions to the livecd?
22:18 < rxr> minto: ok ,-)
22:18 < rxr> lewellyn: /me ,-)
22:18 * lewellyn is using it as he would normally use a livecd right now :)
22:18 < lewellyn> rxr: can you add tcpdump? :)
22:18 < minto> rxr: Okay, what time do expect to arrive in Amsterdam.
22:18 < morfoh> hi minto
22:18 < minto> hi morfoh
22:18 < minto> :-)
22:18 < rxr> minto: what would you wish?
22:19 < rxr> minto: I would leave bochum after some breakfast and talking - maybe afer 12 o'clock or so
22:19 < minto> rxr: Somewhere in the morning is fine, say 5:30
22:19 < minto> rxr: just kidding
22:19 < lewellyn> rxr: other analysis tools would probably be nice, too. it's tcpdump that i'm sorely missing at the moment, though.
22:19 < lewellyn> rxr: also, is the livecd still rsync-able?
22:20 < minto> rxr: you like to go back to berlin by plane?
22:20 < rxr> lewellyn: yes
22:20 < rxr> but no new release yet
22:20 < rxr> I add tcpdump to the list of small, useful tools
22:20 < lewellyn> i'd also request ethereal, but that is not small :(
22:22 < CIA-12> sebastian * r9790 /trunk/package/x11/mrxvt/ (. mrxvt.desc): * added mrxvt (0.4.1)
22:22 < lewellyn> mrxvt?
22:22 < sepp> missed whois on the livecd
22:22 < rxr> minto: train is fine as well - if you want to pay a flight I do not say no
22:23 < rxr> but as long as train is cheaper I would just sit in some ICE and type on my iBook ,-)
22:23 < lewellyn> oh yes. whois is nice.
22:23 < lewellyn> as well as traceroute et al
22:24 < minto> rxr: I train cheaper? I have a plane from Rotterdam to berlin for around 50 euros. Let's see how much the train is.
22:24 < rxr> hm - yes 50 EUR is not bad
22:24 < sepp> lewellyn: why do you wonder about mrxvt
22:25 < rxr> europe sommer special can be 39 EUR
22:25 < rxr> but that is the special low summer price - usually it is more expensive ...
22:25 < lewellyn> r9790
22:25 < sepp> i am sebastian ...
22:26 < lewellyn> yes. i'm just curious as to what it is.
22:26 < lewellyn> :)
22:26 < valentin> mnemoc: re
22:26 < lewellyn> multilingual?
22:26 < minto> rxr: 39 euro is really cheap.
22:26 < lewellyn> minimal?
22:26 < sepp> lewellyn: no multi tabs
22:26 < lewellyn> multitabs?
22:26 < lewellyn> what are those?
22:26 < minto> rxr: Hmm, transavia.com on monday is even 30 euros.
22:27 < rxr> minto: how long will we need for the computing work?
22:27 < minto> rxr: Unfortunately these prices change day by day.
22:28 < sepp> lewellyn: materm.sf.net
22:29 < minto> rxr: Dunno exactly. First I though till saterday was fine. But since you arrive on friday after noon. Maybe till sunday is safer.
22:30 < mnemoc> rxr: i'll go to a class.... back in 3:40h :\
22:30 < rxr> oh - so long ...
22:31 < minto> mnemoc: have fun
22:31 < rxr> minto: well - let's not stress - I have some time
22:31 < rxr> let's do all well - and let me see amsterdam (have not yet been there yet)
22:31 < mnemoc> cu
22:31 < minto> rxr: Okay, I will show you amsterdam.
22:33 < minto> rxr: How would you like to travel back, by plane or train. If by plane the soner I book the cheaper it is.
22:33 < morfoh> .oO( hmmm .. minto seems to be in travel business now )o :)
22:34 < valentin> mnemoc: oh
22:34 < valentin> missed him
22:34 < morfoh> hi valentin
22:34 < rxr> well - if plane price is not such a difference and we are more flexiable, the later
22:34 < valentin> hi all
22:34 < rxr> hi one ,-)
22:34 < minto> morfoh: I need it to be cheap so I can afford to give rxr a beer as well. ;-)
22:34 < minto> Hi Valentin
22:35 < morfoh> minto: I want to have a beer too :)
22:35 < minto> Sorry, you are not comming over. But I understand.
22:35 < morfoh> + a amsterdam visit
22:35 * lewellyn too! :)
22:35 < valentin> minto: i would love to visit amsterdam, but i cannot leave kerstin alone for so many days now
22:35 < minto> morfoh: Who knows? Maybe I come to Berlin once and I'll buy you one.
22:36 < minto> Valentin: I probably would have done the same.
22:36 < lewellyn> if you all come out to sf, i'll have to buy you all beers :)
22:36 < morfoh> minto: I'll come to amsterdam and buy you a beer too ;)
22:36 < minto> morfoh: When?
22:36 < minto> :-)
22:37 < morfoh> minto: tomorrow ;)
22:37 < minto> morfoh: I you wait till friday rxr will show up too.
22:37 < morfoh> minto: nah ... but I guess I could visit amsterdam again ... some years ago
22:38 < morfoh> I mean it's long time ... I was there
22:38 < minto> morfoh: I you do tell me.
22:38 < minto> i - If
22:38 < morfoh> minto: ack :)
22:38 < sepp> i was in amsterdam 9 years ago
22:38 < minto> Maybe I have to turn the lights on. I keep hitting the wrong buttons.
22:39 < morfoh> sepp: same here ... but I think it's 12-13 years ago ...
22:40 < minto> rxr: Shall we make it leaving on monday by plane. Rotterdam airport ( I will drive you there) to Berlin Schoenefeld?
22:40 < valentin> yuck http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/60845
22:40 < sepp> time to move to russia
22:41 < morfoh> valentin: dark times :(
22:41 < morfoh> sepp: that could be an option
22:41 < morfoh> but not really
22:41 < rxr> minto: you have a big TODO file ...
22:42 < morfoh> sepp: anyway ... I have other prefered countries to move to
22:42 < sepp> but it is one of the few lang. i now
22:43 < sepp> know*
22:43 < minto> rxr: How long would you like to stay?
22:44 < rxr> minto: well - I can not perfectly estimate the time needed for some of the points on your todo
22:44 < morfoh> sepp: unfortunately my russian is very rusty
22:45 < rxr> minto: well - let's plan 3 more or less full days for those, ok? thus leaving on Tuesday
22:46 < rxr> to be on the save site to get your TODO flushed properly
22:46 < minto> rxr: Me neither. But it is no big deal if some point are not done. Only the first two are important. Number 3 is more open for discussion.
22:46 < minto> Okay tuesday.
22:46 < rxr> If this is ok for you ... ?
22:47 < minto> Right now it is.
22:47 < rxr> ok - fine ,-)
22:48 < minto> hehe, flying on tuesday is even cheaper. 19,99 for the flight + 28,70 tax.
22:48 < minto> leaving Rotterdam at 15.30 arriving in berlin around 16:45
22:48 < rxr> hehe ,-)
22:48 * minto is a touroperator now.
22:49 * morfoh calling operator ....
22:49 * minto is a TOUR operator not a PHONE operator.
22:49 < minto> :-)
22:50 < morfoh> what a pitty :)
22:55 < minto> rxr: Your flight has been booked (I hope)
22:58 < minto> ah it is. I just received the confirmation.
22:58 < minto> Now I am off to bed. Sleep well everbody.
22:59 < azu1> Gn8 minto
22:59 < lewellyn> sleep well minto
22:59 < rxr> minto: ok - thanks - sleep well
22:59 < rxr> T2 2.1.0-rc1 "plastic bag & magazines"
22:59 < rxr> code name ok ?
23:00 < sepp> plastic bag?
23:00 < morfoh> sleep well tour operator
23:00 < sepp> sounds like "muelltuete"
23:01 < morfoh> rxr: I don't like the code name ...
23:02 < morfoh> but I don't know what's the intention behind
23:02 < rxr> ouhm
23:02 < rxr> what about french maid then ?
23:02 < rxr> "french maid" that is ,-)
23:03 < morfoh> why french ? I'd use chilean maid even
23:03 < morfoh> :)
23:03 < morfoh> it better suits ;)
23:03 < lewellyn> rxr: is the krdc on the livecd fully functional?
23:05 < rxr> lewellyn: ouhm - it falls into the "untested category ..."
23:05 < rxr> it is the remove desktop thing, right?
23:05 < rxr> if yes I guess it might miss rdesktop
23:05 < lewellyn> i've targeted a half dozen vnc servers and it won't connect :(
23:05 < rxr> at least I have not epxlicitly added it
23:05 < lewellyn> and yes, it is.
23:05 < rxr> oh - vnc even
23:06 < lewellyn> we only run windows on desktops here :)
23:06 < rxr> well - can you send a mail into "my inbox is my database" reminding me on tcpdump, vnc and rdesktop
23:06 * lewellyn makes a note.
23:06 < rxr> windows? is what linux are they based on?
23:06 < lewellyn> i'll probabaly have more to add to that list by end-of-day
23:06 < lewellyn> that question did not parse quite right on this end :(
23:07 < rxr> lewellyn: just joking -)
23:07 < rxr> when people tell me whatsoever about windows I usually ask what linux dist that is "never heared of it - can't be that well" ...
23:07 < morfoh> rxr: what do you think about "Chilean Maid" as 2.1-rc1 code name ?
23:11 < lewellyn> . o O ( hmm... i could use a chilean maid... hmm... )
23:15 < morfoh> _Lewellyn: just thought of it --- regarding the official rc1 release maintainer
23:16 < jsaw> re
23:16 < lewellyn> oh. i was thinking of keeping a maid in my room...
23:16 < morfoh> so ... I'm shortly away
23:16 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
23:16 < lewellyn> the outfit being optional :)
23:16 < lewellyn> hoi jsaw
23:16 < jsaw> hi morfoh , lewellyn
23:17 < azu1> hi jsaw
23:17 -!- morfoh is now known as morfoh|away
23:17 < jsaw> oh my, so many mails to read (after move no dsl yet, but my boss allowed me to put the machine in the institute)
23:17 < jsaw> hi azu1
23:18 < jsaw> rxr: obviously the patch for dietlibc is correct, it's in CVS already
23:18 * lewellyn logs into his workstation
23:18 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
23:18 < lewellyn> FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-TWO! FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-TWO NEW EMAIL MESSAGES! HAHAHAHAHA!
23:18 < lewellyn> :(
23:18 < jsaw> :)
23:19 < rxr> ?
23:19 < rxr> hi jsaw
23:19 < jsaw> hi rxr
23:20 < valentin> lewellyn: - spam ?
23:21 < valentin> hi jsaw
23:21 < jsaw> hi valentin
23:23 < rxr> jsaw: yes - I posted he took it - but he has not answered my two other compat patches ...
23:23 < rxr> n8 all
23:23 < jsaw> g'night rxr :)
23:27 < lewellyn> valentin: no. just not at my desk today :(
23:34 < lewellyn> ok. on the livecd, how do i increase my resolution past 1024x768? :(
23:37 < valentin> if you have a ddc monitor which says theese modes are supported it should choose a higher resolution
23:37 < lewellyn> this monitor can do at least 1600x1200
23:38 < lewellyn> it's "Standard timing 2", in fact
23:38 < lewellyn> so says VT1
23:38 < lewellyn> it's also only using 16 bit :(
23:39 * lewellyn can't blame kde anymore for color banding :(
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23:42 < _Ragnar_> uh huh
23:42 < _Ragnar_> now I try ./scripts/Config and when I first press the down arrow key it just terminates
23:43 < lewellyn> hoi keinek_
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23:54 < lewellyn> why isn't T2@Live listed on the unionfs project page?
23:54 < valentin> no idea. maybe you give them a hint ?
23:55 * lewellyn starts yet another notepad for when he has time to compose email.
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