--- Log opened Sat Jun 11 00:00:59 2005 00:37 -!- kleper [~kleper@200.30.69.177] has joined #t2 00:38 < mnemoc_> hi kleper 00:38 < kleper> hi t2 developers 00:39 < mnemoc_> most are sleeping 00:39 < mnemoc_> morfoh: any news on trac and plone? 00:54 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.135.26] has joined #t2 00:55 -!- kleper_ [~kleper@200.30.69.177] has joined #t2 00:56 -!- kleper [~kleper@200.30.69.177] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:00 -!- kleper_ [~kleper@200.30.69.177] has quit [Client Quit] 01:15 < SerWou> good evening guys 01:15 < mnemoc_> hi sepp 01:15 < mnemoc_> err 01:15 < mnemoc_> hi SerWou 01:16 < SerWou> hello mnemoc_ 01:16 < SerWou> do you know how to setup several ips on one nic ? 01:16 < mnemoc_> you can add as many address you want to any interface 01:17 < mnemoc_> using rocknet or by hand? 01:17 < SerWou> i tryed with stone eth0, eth0:1 eth0:2, etc.. 01:17 < mnemoc_> no no 01:17 < SerWou> give me the best advice, i don't know 01:17 < mnemoc_> that was before linux 2.2 01:17 < mnemoc_> using rocknet or by hand? 01:18 < SerWou> i have a dedicaded to an ISP company, they are my friends, i ask them to installed for me a t2 01:18 < SerWou> i bought 5 ips, but i just can put the first one 01:18 < SerWou> rocknet or hand ? what the secure and faster way ? 01:19 < mnemoc_> rocknet 01:19 < mnemoc_> interface eth0(default) 01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.50/24 01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.51/24 01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.52/24 01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.53/24 01:19 < mnemoc_> ip 200.200.200.54/24 01:19 < mnemoc_> gw 200.200.200.1 01:19 < mnemoc_> drop all 01:20 < SerWou> hop hop hop 01:20 < SerWou> easy man 01:20 < mnemoc_> what version of T2 do you have there? 01:20 < SerWou> i don't know what to run rocknet or where i can find it :( ;) 01:21 < SerWou> i have a t2 home made dedicaded to be a webserver 01:21 < SerWou> 2.1.0-rc1 01:21 < mnemoc_> vi /etc/conf/network 01:22 < SerWou> interface eth0 01:22 < SerWou> ip 64.251.xx.xx/24 01:22 < SerWou> gw 64.251.xx.xx 01:22 < SerWou> nameserver 64.251.xx.xx 01:23 < SerWou> so, i add several lines betwen "ip" and "gw" 01:23 < mnemoc_> yes 01:23 < SerWou> lol 01:23 < SerWou> ok 01:23 < mnemoc_> as many as you need 01:23 < SerWou> let's me try ;) 01:24 < mnemoc_> after restarting network, do: ip a s to see the result 01:24 < mnemoc_> btw, it is always recommended to finish an external interface with: drop all 01:25 < SerWou> restarting network : ifconfig eth0 down & ifconfig eth0 up ? 01:25 < mnemoc_> nope 01:25 < mnemoc_> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network stop 01:25 < mnemoc_> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network start 01:26 < SerWou> i don't want to do that, i will loose my ssh connection to this server, i don't have physical access to this pc 01:26 < mnemoc_> ok, set them by hand for now 01:26 < mnemoc_> and on the next reboot you will try rocknet config :) 01:27 < SerWou> "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart" will do the thing without any problem ? 01:27 < mnemoc_> on linux versions 2.3+ you should use iproute2 instead of ifconfig to set your network 01:27 < mnemoc_> SerWou: not sure 01:27 < SerWou> iproute2 01:27 < SerWou> ok 01:28 < mnemoc_> ip addr add 64.251.xx.xx/24 dev eth0 01:28 < mnemoc_> and ip addr show to see the result 01:28 < SerWou> /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart 01:28 < SerWou> Shutting down network devices. ......................................................... v 01:28 < SerWou> Interface / profile matched: eth0(default) :-( 01:28 < SerWou> Setting up network devices. ............................................................ v 01:28 < SerWou> Interface / profile matched: eth0(default) :-( 01:29 < mnemoc_> i'm not sure if rocknet is always sad 01:29 < mnemoc_> ip a s 01:30 < SerWou> hum 01:30 < SerWou> what a mess 01:30 < mnemoc_> what? 01:30 < SerWou> got a lot of "network interface" : bond0, dummy0, eql, teql0, tunl0, gre0 01:31 < mnemoc_> ip a s eth0 :) 01:32 < SerWou> 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 01:32 < SerWou> link/ether 00:0c:76:bc:8b:f8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global eth0 01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0 01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0 01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0 01:32 < SerWou> inet 64.251.xxx.xxx/24 scope global secondary eth0 01:32 < mnemoc_> is that what you wanted? 01:32 < SerWou> yes ;) 01:32 < mnemoc_> good :) 01:32 < SerWou> ho 01:33 < SerWou> it complains about the network when i restarted it but it took the ip adresses 01:33 < mnemoc_> try changing your interface declaration to: eth0(default) 01:34 < mnemoc_> i have never seen rocknet happy :p 01:34 < SerWou> in /etc/conf/network ? 01:34 < mnemoc_> yes 01:34 < SerWou> hehe ;) 01:36 < SerWou> sorry, i was watching a webcam striptease video very hot ; 01:36 < SerWou> ;) 01:37 < mnemoc_> ^_^ 01:37 < [lewellyn]> serwou is now happy ;) 01:37 < SerWou> http://abrutis.com/ifuckthehatlinker/stripdeouf.wmv 01:37 < [lewellyn]> o O ( ,,,... porn... ) 01:37 < SerWou> ^ no linux 01:38 * [lewellyn] will hope his palm can play it in a bit 01:39 < SerWou> still complaining ;) 01:39 < SerWou> whatever 01:39 < SerWou> it works 01:40 < SerWou> Thanks a lot 01:40 < mnemoc_> the striptease worked? 01:40 * SerWou guess mnemoc_ is watching the stip video 01:40 < SerWou> ha sorry ;) 01:40 < SerWou> the network setting 01:40 < mnemoc_> hehe 01:40 < mnemoc_> i can't watch your video here :( 01:40 < SerWou> you can still download it for later 01:41 < mnemoc_> yep :) 01:41 < SerWou> for long winter evening 01:42 < mnemoc_> :) 01:43 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: should i do something to my 2.7.6 instances if i update to 2.8.0-b2? 01:59 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: yuck.... /usr/bin/python: can't open file '/opt/zope/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory it seems something has changed 01:59 < _Ragnar_> O_O 02:03 < CIA-7> amery * r9612 /trunk/package/zope/zope/ (configure-python24.patch zope.desc): * updated zope (2.7.6 -> 2.8.0-b2) 02:03 < mnemoc_> if someone merge that into 2.1 i kill him 02:03 * mnemoc_ moving home 02:13 < SerWou> see you mnemoc_ 02:17 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc_: i have no clue. i haven't used a new version of zope since like 2.7.1 :( 02:17 < [lewellyn]> maybe 2.7.2 02:37 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BFE8F1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:38 < mnemoc_> re 02:38 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: :) 02:43 < [lewellyn]> actually, do you HAVE a run.py? :) 02:44 < mnemoc_> on 2.7.6 i had 02:45 < [lewellyn]> ah. what did it do? 02:45 < mnemoc_> run the instance iirc 02:45 < [lewellyn]> um. odd. ok... 02:46 < [lewellyn]> what do the docs say to start the instance in 2.8? :) 02:46 < mnemoc_> the usual mkinstance script 02:46 < mnemoc_> and a run script inside the instance 02:46 < mnemoc_> which seems to be different between 2.7 and 2.8 02:47 < [lewellyn]> unsurprising... 02:47 < [lewellyn]> and, knowing zope, there is no upgrade guide. 02:48 < mnemoc_> CPSSharedCalendar needs zope3 or (Five + zX3) 02:48 < mnemoc_> zope 2.8 includes five and zX3 02:49 < mnemoc_> so, i'll add zX3 to 2.1 and use 2.8 on trunk for 2.2 02:51 < mnemoc_> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/t2-iso/ if you want to grab it 04:28 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.135.26] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:40 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.135.26] has joined #t2 05:03 < mnemoc_> [lewellyn]: ping 05:05 < [lewellyn]> PONG 05:06 < mnemoc_> how path on zope.conf works? 05:06 < mnemoc_> i mean, how should i delimit it to use two entries? 05:06 < [lewellyn]> zope.conf is a 2.7+ thing. never played with it much. sorry :( 05:06 < [lewellyn]> most servers i use are 2.5 and 2.6 still 05:06 < mnemoc_> :( 05:07 < [lewellyn]> sorry :( 05:08 < mnemoc_> i need my zope to load stuff form /opt/zope/lib/pytohn 05:08 < [lewellyn]> where's it trying to load from? 05:08 < mnemoc_> and from /opt/zopex3/lib/pyhon 05:09 < mnemoc_> i need the second 05:09 < mnemoc_> but if i set path to zopex3 i loose zope's 05:09 < [lewellyn]> there's bound to be a way 05:10 < mnemoc_> ':' as delimiter doesn't work 05:10 < mnemoc_> and PYTHONPATH=... ./bin/runzope.py neither 09:25 < rxr> re 09:25 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ !! 09:40 < sepp> moin 09:59 < rxr> hi sepp 10:03 < sepp> hello rxr :) 10:30 < valentin> moin 10:31 < rxr> oh - hi valentin 10:32 < valentin> hi rxr 10:35 < rxr> how was the tea with the midwife? 10:36 < valentin> midwife is ? 10:36 < rxr> hebamme 10:36 < valentin> ah 10:36 < valentin> kerstin says it was nice and informative 10:36 < rxr> didn't you attend ? 10:36 < valentin> i had been @work 10:36 < rxr> oh 10:37 < valentin> but i saw her once before in the hospital 10:38 < valentin> rxr: how is this kde tea timer named ? 10:41 < SerWou> good morning 10:41 < valentin> http://www.lospalmos.net/live-cd-logo.png 10:41 < SerWou> is there a package for proftpd ? 10:41 < valentin> http://www.lospalmos.net/livecd-bootscreen.jpg 10:41 < valentin> moin SerWou 10:41 < SerWou> hello valentin 10:41 < rxr> SerWou: I think so 10:42 < SerWou> i guess so too 10:42 < rxr> valentin: oh my god 10:42 < SerWou> but what is the name ? proftp ? proftpd ? pro-ftpd ? 10:42 < valentin> SerWou: i am searching 10:43 < rxr> hm - or there is no such package yet ... 10:43 < rxr> # ./misc/archive/Find.sh ftp 10:43 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ... 10:43 < rxr> gnome2/gftp 10:43 < rxr> network/lftp 10:43 < rxr> network/ncftp 10:43 < rxr> network/netkit-ftp 10:43 < rxr> network/obexftp 10:43 < rxr> network/tftp-hpa 10:43 < rxr> network/twoftpd 10:43 < rxr> network/vsftpd 10:43 < rxr> network/wu-ftpd 10:43 < valentin> hm 10:43 < valentin> no proftp whatsoever 10:44 < valentin> ah - kteatime :) 10:44 < valentin> damn, they cheat 10:45 < SerWou> no proftp 10:45 < SerWou> gonna make a .desc ;) 10:46 < SerWou> network/proftpd ? 10:46 < SerWou> think so 10:48 < rxr> yep 10:51 < valentin> rxr: do you want that quit button in the netconf systray ? 10:52 < rxr> I think a quuit button on right click context in the tray is ok 10:53 < valentin> so, /me has to "steal" some code from the tea timer 10:53 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none rsync perl wget commonc++ csync2 whois validator pdnsd smbc 10:53 < rxr> ^- updates scheduled on my side ... 10:57 < SerWou> Packages scheduled to build: none 10:57 < SerWou> but i did a package 10:57 < SerWou> i have to refresh something ? 10:57 < rxr> "I've always found this flag confusing. Now that devfs is no longer around, it" 10:57 < rxr> ^- Greg KH 10:57 < rxr> devfs is gone in some kernel tree now ? 10:58 < rxr> SerWou: Config -oldconfig 10:58 < rxr> the package is not yet in your package list I guess - and Emerge only builds what is in your config/.../packages 10:58 < SerWou> nice 10:59 < rxr> this is due to the sorting by priority - however I consider changing this for the rare corner case a new package is done to schedule non listed packages at the end ... 10:59 < SerWou> it's a good choice 11:00 < rxr> (but we will remove this hard static priority anyway as soon as we have time ... 11:00 < rxr> to do dynamic sorting by dependency graph ... 11:00 < SerWou> dynamic with what ? 11:00 < SerWou> == 06/11/05 10:59:50 =[9]=> Finished building package proftpd ;) 11:00 < rxr> to get rid of the [P] tat's static list number 11:01 < rxr> always let the build system order the packages by the dependency graph they form due to cached .cache depdencies 11:01 < rxr> valentin: here ? 11:01 < SerWou> hum 11:02 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/big.png 11:02 < rxr> ^- linear regression - should I do this in the offical svn.exactcode.de graph ?= 11:02 < rxr> it will look even more drastic when I split by year ,-)! 11:07 < CIA-7> rene * r9613 /trunk/package/network/rsync/rsync.desc: * updated rsync (2.6.4 -> 2.6.5) 11:08 < CIA-7> rene * r9614 /trunk/package/base/wget/ (allow-tilde-in-url.patch wget.desc): * updated wget (1.9.1 -> 1.10) 11:08 < CIA-7> rene * r9615 /trunk/package/network/pdnsd/pdnsd.desc: * updated pdnsd (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2) 11:10 < valentin> rxr: please do not put that in the official graph... :) 11:10 < rxr> why ? 11:11 < valentin> then you had to restrict the data down to the split date 11:11 < valentin> using two different lines for the same data shows how unscientific those regressions are 11:12 < valentin> second point is, that we cannot catch up our own line if we take this as a trend 11:12 < valentin> in other words, the t2 line will definitly flatten over the time 11:16 < CIA-7> rene * r9616 /trunk/package/network/validator/validator.desc: * updated validator (1.2 -> 1.3.4.12) 11:16 < CIA-7> rene * r9617 /trunk/package/network/smbc/smbc.desc: * updated smbc (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1) 11:17 < CIA-7> rene * r9618 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.0 -> 4.7.5) 11:17 < CIA-7> rene * r9619 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * updated commonc++ (1.3.10 -> 1.3.11) 11:40 < rxr> re 11:41 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live.png 11:41 * rxr showering and off ... 12:05 < rxr> re 12:11 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.135.26] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:27 < rxr> [RFC] Patch series to remove devfs [00/22] 12:29 < valentin> rxr: T-net ?? 12:30 < rxr> hehe ,-) 12:30 < rxr> just joking 12:30 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/live/ 12:30 < valentin> we pay for this t-net shit ... 12:30 < valentin> ok 12:30 < valentin> rxr: saw that 12:31 < rxr> pay ? 12:31 < valentin> t-net standard 12:31 < rxr> what do you mean with pay ? 12:31 < valentin> the telekom's base tarif 12:33 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/live/ 12:33 < rxr> better=? 12:33 * rxr off soon now ... 12:33 < rxr> ok - sparc64-32 build progressing ... 12:33 < rxr> == 09:30:16 =[2]=> Building base/gcc [3.4.3 2.2.0-alpha]. 12:33 < rxr> nice nice 12:34 < valentin> yeah 12:34 < valentin> cu rxr 12:39 < rxr> off - cu 12:45 -!- sepp_ [~sepp@p213.54.220.196.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 13:03 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.213.99.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:25 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.55] has joined #t2 13:37 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.107] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:52 -!- morfoh [~jeru@p54BFCE0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 13:52 < morfoh> hi all 13:55 < CIA-7> chris * r9620 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver patch for linux26 kernels (vs2.0-rc3 -> vs2.0-rc4) 13:58 < valentin> hi son of king 13:59 -!- herve [~herve@bar.oursours.net] has joined #t2 13:59 < herve> hi 14:00 < herve> morfoh, ping 14:00 < valentin> hi herve 14:01 < morfoh> valentin: hi valentin, herve :) 14:01 < morfoh> herve: pong 14:03 -!- mipe [~mika@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 14:28 < herve> bye 14:28 -!- herve [~herve@bar.oursours.net] has quit ["Vous me rattraperez jamaiiiiiiiiis !"] 14:37 < valentin> hm, he seemed very eager to speak to you... 14:40 < morfoh> valentin: no! we had a talk ;) 14:40 < rxr> re 14:40 < morfoh> valentin: he's helping me with the web stuff ;) 14:41 < morfoh> hi rxr 14:41 < rxr> hi all 14:42 < valentin> hi rxr 14:52 < valentin> rxr: some more requests for netconf besides the tray bar profile switching ? 14:52 < valentin> and maybe some better layouting 14:53 < valentin> a 'copy profile' function would be nice imo 14:53 < rxr> I would like if if this activate vs. ok would be resolved 14:53 < rxr> and close could be removed 14:53 < rxr> and, ... 14:54 < rxr> e.g. make ok save - so it is obvious that it is not activated or so 14:54 < valentin> rxr: there is only canel and save now 14:54 < rxr> ah - is 14:54 < valentin> even had been in your screenshot-version iirc 14:54 < rxr> yes yes all fine 14:54 < valentin> :) 14:54 < rxr> what about renaming "appply to this profile" into "enable in this profile" or so ? 14:55 < rxr> and susan noticed that often the profile name is truncated in the combo box 14:55 < valentin> yes, that is what i count under 'cosmetics' 14:56 < valentin> same for this check problem, where unchecked items are ragged-left 14:56 < valentin> currently i am searching why the traybar menu items are not filed at the position i want them 14:56 < valentin> but i found kteatime makes a similar thing 14:58 < rxr> why do yi get unknown network card on all boxes 15:01 < valentin> try ethtool -i 15:01 < rxr> I know - sungem for eth0 - but still not in netconf 15:02 < valentin> as user or root ? 15:02 < rxr> do you execute it as user? 15:02 < valentin> ouhm, yes 15:02 < rxr> -bash: ethtool: command not found 15:02 < valentin> /sbin/ethtool 15:02 < valentin> /usr/sbin/ethtool 15:02 < valentin> ok, as a user you have no permissions 15:02 < rxr> /usr/sbin/ethtool 15:03 < valentin> i will rename netconf-copy to netconf-helper 15:03 < valentin> and place all the stuff there 15:03 < rxr> $ /usr/sbin/ethtool -i eth0 15:03 < rxr> Cannot get driver information: Operation not permitted 15:12 < valentin> so, at least the profiles appear at the corret position in the context menu now... 15:13 < valentin> back in some minutes... 15:26 -!- mipe [~mika@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["Lähdössä"] 17:14 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178157233.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:14 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 TAGGED - official .iso creation in progress | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 17:14 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Jun 9 04:36:32 2005] 17:14 [Users #t2] 17:14 [ [lewellyn]] [ CIA-7 ] [ morfoh ] [ nzg ] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin] 17:14 [ _Lewellyn ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] 17:14 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ mnemoc] [ netrunner] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly[u5]] 17:14 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 17:14 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 17:14 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 17:23 -!- rxr [rene@e178153226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:48 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: sparc-kly[u5], morfoh, netrunner, valentin, jsaw, [lewellyn], SerWou, _Ragnar_, CIA-7, nzg, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 17:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: morfoh, mnemoc, sepp_, netrunner, mtr_, [lewellyn], jsaw, sparc-kly[u5], _Ragnar_, valentin (+4 more) 17:52 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: morfoh, sparc-kly[u5], jsaw, netrunner, valentin, [lewellyn], SerWou, _Ragnar_, CIA-7, nzg, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 17:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: morfoh, mnemoc, sepp_, netrunner, mtr_, [lewellyn], jsaw, sparc-kly[u5], _Ragnar_, valentin (+4 more) 17:55 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: [lewellyn], mtr_ 18:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: [lewellyn] 18:09 -!- [lewellyn] [~mjl@lewellyn.silver.supporter.pdpc] has quit [Operation timed out] 18:18 < mnemoc> moin 18:19 < morfoh> moin mnemoc :) 18:20 < mnemoc> hi mofroh 18:23 < mnemoc> morfoh: zope3 or zopex3? (package and prefix) 18:23 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF9204.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: uhm? do you want to package it? 18:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'd vote for zope3 18:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: ok 18:24 < mnemoc> morfoh: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html#zopex3 18:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: i was thinking in having 2.7 and 3.0 on 2.1 and 2.8 and 3.x on trunk 18:26 < morfoh> mnemoc: it seems that my test box at work freezed :/ 18:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: what do you think? 18:26 < mnemoc> morfoh: :( 18:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: I've nothing against it ,) 18:27 < mnemoc> morfoh: there is a cgishell somewhere you could add to that machine and remain unnoticed 18:27 < mnemoc> over https of course 18:27 < morfoh> mnemoc: pssst ... ;) 18:27 < mnemoc> :) 18:28 < mnemoc> how is trac/plone going? 18:28 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AF8AA1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:29 < mnemoc> hi mtr_ 18:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm on trac right now ;) 18:30 < mnemoc> i roasted my thumb :( 18:30 < morfoh> oh! how ? 18:32 < mnemoc> doing eags 18:32 < mnemoc> and i pressed hard o_O 18:32 < morfoh> hehe .... :) sorry 18:32 < mnemoc> rxr_: minimal desktop has libxslt but not libxml, what is wrong? libxml or libxslt? 18:33 < rxr_> re 18:33 -!- You're now known as rxr 18:34 < rxr> ouhm - I do not know off hand - maybe better add libxml ,-) 18:34 < morfoh> does somebody knows an alternative ssl library than the fat openssl? 18:34 < morfoh> I've found matrixssl -> http://www.matrixssl.org/download.html 18:34 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF9204.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 18:34 < morfoh> but download requires to fill out a form 18:36 < mnemoc> ipsvd use matrixssl, so i guess that's the only alternative 18:37 < mnemoc> This source code is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Afghanistan (Taliban controlled areas), Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including Denied Parties, entities on the Bureau of Export Administration Entity List, and Specially Designated Nationals). 18:37 < mnemoc> stupid jankies 18:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack :/ 18:38 < mnemoc> junkies i mean :p 18:38 < mnemoc> sorry _Lewellyn 18:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: jankies is a good description ;) 18:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: or we should better use jankie administration 18:40 < morfoh> or government 18:42 < mnemoc> people has the government they deserve, sadly 18:44 < mnemoc> bolivia is the best example of that :| 18:44 < mnemoc> more than 1.0 president per year average since their independence 18:46 < mnemoc> rxr: m104 java-less works fine? 18:46 < valentin> hi mnemoc 18:47 < mnemoc> hi valentin 18:47 < valentin> have to go buy some food for the weekend 18:47 < valentin> bbl 18:47 < mnemoc> cu valentin 19:03 -!- [lewellyn] [~mjl@nat193.kefta.COM] has joined #t2 19:04 < mnemoc> hi [lewellyn] 19:10 < CIA-7> amery * r9621 /tags/2.1.0-rc1/misc/pkgsel/minimal-desktop.in: * fixed minimal-desktop template, libxml2 package is named libxml, not libxml2 20:23 < CIA-7> amery * r9622 /branches/2.1/misc/pkgsel/minimal-desktop.in: * merged 9621 from 2.1.0-rc1: fixed minimal-desktop to use the right name of libxml 20:24 < CIA-7> amery * r9623 /trunk/misc/pkgsel/minimal-desktop.in: * merged 9621 from 2.1.0-rc1: fixed minimal-desktop to use the right name of libxml 20:31 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: you're busy this morning/afternoon 20:31 < CIA-7> amery * r9624 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-150/mime-type-remove.diff: * merged 9546 from 2.1: changed sun-{jre,jdk}-150 to not install gnome registry stuff, then they wont share those files. (dumb but works) 20:32 < mnemoc> [lewellyn]: uhm? 20:32 < [lewellyn]> lots of checkins 20:33 < mnemoc> lots? nah 20:33 < [lewellyn]> 4 since my client reconnected. 20:33 < [lewellyn]> that's like 1 every 15 mins :) 20:33 < mnemoc> over 20 are 'lots' :) 20:34 < [lewellyn]> ya. i had a funn massive checkin a week ago here at work 20:34 < [lewellyn]> huge log message affecting like 30 files across a half dozen directories. 20:34 < mnemoc> hehe 20:34 < [lewellyn]> plus a few misc checkins to make sure the first batch would build :) 20:34 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/t2-iso/ <-- minimal-pmmx-2.1.0-rc1.iso 20:34 < [lewellyn]> and we use cvs, so each directory generated an email :) 20:35 < [lewellyn]> i'll grab it and see if it boots in a few. 20:35 < mnemoc> it's installable, not livecd 20:36 < [lewellyn]> well, ya. but i need to make sure it can read the cd, which the livecd does not 20:36 < mnemoc> :) 20:36 < [lewellyn]> in fact, i am going to find a way to get that thing to give me useable output in a bit. 20:46 < CIA-7> amery * r9625 /trunk/package/network/hostap/ (pkg_linux24_post.conf pkg_linux24benh_post.conf): * merged 9523 from 2.1: changed hostap to not extend linux24 or linux24benh before stage 2 20:53 < CIA-7> amery * r9626 /trunk/package/java/tomcat/tomcat.conf: * merged 9524 from 2.1: decustmainized tomcat and changed to install at opt/tomcat 21:00 < CIA-7> amery * r9627 /trunk/package/games/xblasttnt/xblasttnt.conf: * merged 9525 from 2.1: fixed xblasttnt to not install at /usrgames/ 21:30 < CIA-7> amery * r9628 /trunk/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage2.sh config.in): * merged 9520 from 2.1: changed bootdisk to build (but not install) ccache 21:36 < CIA-7> amery * r9629 /trunk/package/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * merged 9496 from 2.1: moved gnomesword to attic until we get libgtkhtml3 21:36 < [lewellyn]> you're about halfway to "a lot" ;) 21:36 < [lewellyn]> btw, the iso is almost done downloading 21:37 < mnemoc> i should have moved it away of my DSL before promoting it :p 21:37 < [lewellyn]> :) 21:38 < [lewellyn]> give it to rene to host ;) 21:38 < [lewellyn]> then its' not your dsl, at least! :) 21:39 < mnemoc> that's the plan, but rene has been quite away :( 21:39 < valentin> re 21:39 < valentin> what, how, who ? 21:40 < valentin> www is hosted on my dsl line, not rxr's 21:40 < [lewellyn]> where, why, when? 21:40 < mnemoc> :) 21:40 < [lewellyn]> :) 21:40 < valentin> hy [lewellyn] 21:40 < mnemoc> gsmp.... 21:40 < [lewellyn]> even better! ;) 21:40 < [lewellyn]> hoi valentin 21:40 < valentin> gsmp is at the university 21:44 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: fwiw, your dsl is no slower than the bell-labs server i'm downloading something else from :) 21:45 < mnemoc> :) 21:45 < mnemoc> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=67 <--- these guys are amazing 21:46 < valentin> wow 21:47 < valentin> is this realy a streat paint or digitally edited ? 21:47 < mnemoc> i trust it's streat paint, that and the others 21:51 < valentin> mnemoc: this is a porn page ... 21:51 < [lewellyn]> valentin: oh? where do i click to see the porn? 21:51 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photox.php 21:52 < [lewellyn]> well, if you click the "Photos X" link instead of the "Photos" link... :) 21:53 < valentin> ah, there is a photo section 21:54 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=830 <- is this real ? 21:54 < mnemoc> oh 21:55 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=271 <- another cool streetpaint 21:55 < mnemoc> valentin: nah... that's edited 21:56 < mnemoc> valentin: i didn't noticed the porn part on topbar 21:57 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: don't bother. they seem to want to charge 21:57 < mnemoc> hehe 21:57 < mnemoc> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=298 <--- which is the fake? 21:58 < [lewellyn]> some would guess the one on the rigth 21:58 < [lewellyn]> but i'll be different! 22:00 < mnemoc> [lewellyn]: it seems you finished melting my office's DSL :) 22:01 < [lewellyn]> so i did! 22:01 < [lewellyn]> yay! 22:01 * [lewellyn] is still attacking bell-labs though 22:01 < [lewellyn]> and rene for the livecd :) 22:01 * [lewellyn] is going to be amused when he looks at the office bandwidth chart later 22:02 < [lewellyn]> the lan chart should be nice too, since my homedir is on nfs :) 22:02 < rxr> re 22:03 < [lewellyn]> re :) 22:03 < [lewellyn]> rxr: large changes to the livecd since my last rsync... 22:03 < mnemoc> rxr: how should i upload .iso-s? 22:05 < rxr> to gsmp ? 22:05 < rxr> well - I need a new hardisc 22:06 < rxr> currently each file needs a tripple md5sum and mv $x.defect when it hits a bad sector .... 22:06 < mnemoc> outch 22:06 < valentin> http://www.abrutis.com/photos.php?id=838 22:06 < valentin> haha 22:08 < mnemoc> :) 22:10 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p5498299E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:10 < CIA-7> amery * r9630 /trunk/package/zope/zope3/ (. configure-python24.patch zope3.conf zope3.desc): * added zope3 (3.0.0) 22:21 < [lewellyn]> this is kind of depressing :( 22:21 < [lewellyn]> http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20050527.html 22:21 < [lewellyn]> (mainly because i don't have kids...) 22:23 < [lewellyn]> mnemoc: where can i get a copy of minimal-2.1.0-rc1-pmmx_index.txt, btw :) 22:23 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p549821EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:23 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 22:23 < mnemoc> [lewellyn]: ok, i'l revive it 22:24 < [lewellyn]> i just need the one file. :) 22:24 < mnemoc> t2-iso is up again 22:26 < CIA-7> amery * r9631 /branches/2.1/package/office/ooo/ooo.desc: * merged 9113 from trunk: updated ooo (1.9-m100 -> 1.9-m104) 22:26 < [lewellyn]> got it. thanks :) 22:28 < valentin> damn, even my konqueror settings dialog is broken 22:31 < rxr> re 22:38 < rxr> http://www.schultz-net.dk/grub.html 22:43 < [lewellyn]> rxr: going to get t2's up there? :) 22:45 < mnemoc> sepp_ is our designer :) 22:46 < [lewellyn]> yes, but rxr brought forth the url :) 22:55 < rxr> sepp_: awake ? 23:00 < sepp_> yes 23:00 < rxr> ah - cool ,-) 23:00 < sepp_> still trying to understand DR* 23:00 < rxr> we need to work on some real logo for t2 - now that we will make even more pr 23:01 < sepp_> yes 23:02 < mnemoc> morfoh: hi, how is trac thing going? 23:02 < sepp_> if someone has a idea for "real" please inspire me :) 23:03 < mnemoc> morfoh: i have a fresh plone-2.1-svn and five (zx3 compatilibity) on the machine you know, if you want and account to play 23:04 < valentin> http://t2.lanl.gov/ 23:05 < sepp_> radioactive linux? 23:05 < sepp_> :) 23:05 < mnemoc> hehe 23:05 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 23:05 < mnemoc> vw t2, i simple tool to drive your future :p 23:05 < valentin> nuclear SDE 23:05 < mnemoc> a* 23:06 < CIA-7> chris * r9632 /trunk/package/python/itools/ (. itools.desc): * added itools (0.9.0) 23:06 < sepp> what is vw t2 ? 23:06 < mnemoc> a truck 23:06 < CIA-7> chris * r9633 /trunk/package/zope/ihotfix/ (. ihotfix.desc): * added iHotfix (0.6.0) 23:07 < [lewellyn]> only VWs we have here are cars... 23:07 < mnemoc> http://www.armyvehicles.dk/vwt2m221.htm 23:07 < sepp> a this one 23:07 < CIA-7> chris * r9634 /trunk/package/zope/ikaaro/ (. ikaaro.desc): * added ikaaro (0.14.0) 23:08 < sepp> did not know that this is called t2 23:08 < morfoh> mnemoc: what is your plan with the zope-2.1-svn + five thing ? 23:09 < mnemoc> cpssharedcalendar for conosur 23:09 < mnemoc> but... big machine for doing just that 23:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: ic 23:09 < [lewellyn]> heh. we know those as "hippymobiles" here :) 23:09 < mnemoc> hehe 23:10 < mnemoc> http://www.armyvehicles.dk/vwt2m261.htm <-- did isn't ver hippy 23:10 < mnemoc> this* 23:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: what do you know about hippies ? 23:11 < mnemoc> nothing 23:11 < morfoh> :D 23:12 < mnemoc> http://www.armyvehicles.dk/vwt2m265.htm <--- but i can't imagine one inside this one 23:12 < morfoh> nah! :D 23:12 < sepp> you have to paint flowers on the car ... 23:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: a hippy would never wear camouflage look ;) 23:13 < mnemoc> :) 23:13 < [lewellyn]> http://cane.toadstool.se/photos/2003/03/16-Columbia,SC-PaddyWagens_VW_Bus_Campout/ 23:13 < [lewellyn]> urk. that url was too long 23:14 < morfoh> http://cane.toadstool.se/p/2003/03/16-Columbia,SC-PaddyWagens_VW_Bus_Campout/24-Easter_Hippy_Bus.JPG 23:15 < [lewellyn]> http://66.34.72.138/gallery/image/1202.JPG 23:15 < morfoh> mnemoc: does build tidy on 2,1 ? 23:16 < morfoh> it fails here :/ 23:16 < [lewellyn]> those look to be similar to the ones on the armyvehicles.dk site :) 23:17 < [lewellyn]> heh. the hippymobiles even made it to the conversatron 23:17 < [lewellyn]> http://conversatron.com/archive/4082.html 23:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: yes, it did 23:19 < [lewellyn]> http://eddy-da-pimp.tripod.com/id15.html search for "hippy bus" 23:19 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ? 23:19 < [lewellyn]> i find it ironic that the peacenik hippies drove the same vehicles as the danish army 23:20 < mnemoc> morfoh: tidy built here 23:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes I understood ... I was just asking myself why it isn't build on my local machine 23:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: what the logs say? 23:29 < morfoh> mnemoc: build now :) 23:30 < mnemoc> without changes? 23:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: I rebuilded python 23:31 < mnemoc> uhm 23:31 < CIA-7> rene * r9635 /trunk/package/graphic/barcode/ (. barcode.cache barcode.conf barcode.desc): * added barcode (0.98) 23:32 < CIA-7> rene * r9636 /trunk/package/kde/kbarcode/ (. kbarcode.cache kbarcode.desc): * added kbarcode (1.9.6) 23:33 < morfoh> [lewellyn]: seems that the hippies are the best christians regarding their vehicles -> Bible: Micha 4,3 "and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; " 23:34 < [lewellyn]> the hippies were good at living up to the bible, whether inadvertently or not 23:40 < valentin> i.e. scrificing oxes ? ,) 23:40 < valentin> sacrifice even 23:40 < mnemoc> morfoh: do you want an account? 23:41 < [lewellyn]> i'm sure that they sacrificed any number of things 23:41 < [lewellyn]> probably even a few virgins! 23:42 < valentin> hehe 23:45 < valentin> everyone lives after the old testament in some way. there is so much stuff in there... 23:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes 23:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: just use the one we used before ;) 23:47 < mnemoc> morfoh: it's a new instance 23:48 < mnemoc> valentin: adding misna and kabala it gets far more interesting... at least to me :) 23:50 < valentin> what was misna again ? 23:51 < sepp> http://home.arcor.de/sebastian.czech/t2/t2-dead.jpg 23:51 < sepp> ok no new logo :( 23:51 < valentin> dead ? 23:52 < sepp> yes not live 23:52 < mnemoc> valentin: torah -> misna -> 2 x talmud 23:54 < valentin> i am not very good at remembering hebrew name 23:54 < mnemoc> torah is the 'bible' 23:56 < valentin> i thought tora is just a part of the tanach 23:56 < valentin> the five books of s 23:56 < mnemoc> it was _the_ book once 23:56 < valentin> moses 23:57 < mnemoc> they love to complement and comment their books 23:58 < valentin> ah - misna is mischna in german 23:59 < mnemoc> :) 23:59 < mnemoc> Mishnah on some places --- Log closed Sun Jun 12 00:00:26 2005