--- Log opened Wed Jun 08 00:00:58 2005 00:13 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.108] has joined #t2 00:13 < keinek> hi 00:23 < keinek> i have one problem 00:23 < keinek> i need rip a dvd 00:23 < keinek> only copy the .vob 00:23 < keinek> decss 00:24 < keinek> vobcopy is in the t2? 00:24 < keinek> now i am in the stable t2. 00:25 < keinek> i dont... i will add vobcopy to t2 :P 00:29 < rxr> I used dvdrip in the past ... 00:29 < rxr> but /me sleeping now ... 00:29 < rxr> cu - n8 all 00:33 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.14.108] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:41 < valentin> re 00:50 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.15.8] has joined #t2 01:29 < valentin> mnemoc_: there again ? 01:30 < mnemoc_> re 01:30 < valentin> hi 01:31 < mnemoc_> hi valentin, keinek 01:31 < valentin> mnemoc_: you do pppoe, right ? 01:31 < mnemoc_> valentin: yes 01:31 < mnemoc_> valentin: on 2 clients 01:31 < valentin> can you paste me the log lines for the beginning of a connection ? i.e the first lines you get on ifup ppp0 ? 01:32 < mnemoc_> minute 01:34 < valentin> thank you 01:35 < mnemoc_> is what i pasted what you need? 01:35 < valentin> yes 01:37 < valentin> i think i take the "using interface xyz" line as tag for a new connection 01:37 < mnemoc_> why not "Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started" ? 01:39 < mnemoc_> make[2]: *** [/TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1118175992.10691.7f0100/glibc-2.3.4/objdir/elf/rtld-libc.a] Error 2 01:39 < mnemoc_> make[2]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1118175992.10691.7f0100/glibc-2.3.4/elf' 01:39 < mnemoc_> make[1]: *** [elf/subdir_lib] Error 2 01:39 < mnemoc_> damn damn damn! 01:46 < valentin> mnemoc_: because the user may not have this option set 01:46 < valentin> what error ? 01:49 < keinek> hi everbody 01:49 < keinek> i need rip a dvd 01:49 < keinek> but nothing work today with me 01:49 < keinek> :( 01:50 < keinek> i only copy the .vob to the hard disk. 01:50 < keinek> vobcopy is the only way? 01:50 < mnemoc_> valentin: invisible :\ 01:51 < mnemoc_> gcc ..... -MT /TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1118175992.10691.7f0100/glibc-2.3.4/objdir/io/rtld-lxstat.os 01:51 < mnemoc_> make[4]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1118175992.10691.7f0100/glibc-2.3.4/io' 01:51 < mnemoc_> make[3]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1118175992.10691.7f0100/glibc-2.3.4/elf' 01:51 < mnemoc_> make[2]: *** [/TOOLCHAIN/src.glibc.1118175992.10691.7f0100/glibc-2.3.4/objdir/elf/rtld-libc.a] Error 2 01:52 < keinek> ok.... 01:52 < keinek> another... 01:52 < keinek> gtk-perl10 01:52 < keinek> dont work 01:52 < keinek> in the error log 01:52 < keinek> said something like is needed a submodule called gdkimlib 01:52 < keinek> do you know that module? 01:52 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-82.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 01:54 < mnemoc_> keinek: you may have missed a dependency 01:54 < keinek> i fix that 01:55 < keinek> i was try to install dvdrip 01:55 < keinek> but dvdrip install before gtk-perl10 01:55 < keinek> but gtk-perl10 fail. 01:55 < keinek> now i did emerge gtk-perl10 01:55 < keinek> and the dependency will install 01:55 < keinek> why emerge dont install all dependency recursive??? 01:56 < keinek> i need copy a original dvd 01:57 < keinek> i dont want install a windows for that. 01:57 < mnemoc_> keinek: one level only 01:57 < keinek> the dvd dont need recompresion, the dvd original have 4.3, ideal for dvd-r 01:57 < keinek> one level only? 01:57 < keinek> why? 01:57 < mnemoc_> keinek: T2 is not designe to emerge the world, it's designed to build targets 01:57 < keinek> i need more levels! 01:57 < mnemoc_> write a proper target 01:58 < keinek> laksjdl lkajsdlkj alskdj (push in the keywoard) 01:58 < keinek> T2 is must be designe for everthing! 01:58 < mnemoc_> no 01:58 < keinek> why no! 01:59 < mnemoc_> it's not been designed by argentinians, it's designed to do one thing, and to do it right 01:59 < keinek> too much build targets... you forguet teach to the people that use the targets. 02:00 < keinek> dont worry. 02:00 < mnemoc_> leonor will write a tutorial about creating targets :) 02:00 < keinek> zip. 02:00 < keinek> :P 02:01 < valentin> who is leonor ? 02:01 < keinek> please mnemoc_ , tell to valentin why... 02:02 < keinek> in my first pay, of my new job..... 02:02 < keinek> in the check (is right "check"?) 02:02 < keinek> i dont have words for tell the history. 02:03 < keinek> mnemoc_, have better english than me. 02:03 < mnemoc_> yes check, or bank check 02:03 < keinek> my name is "Leonel" 02:03 < keinek> but int he bank check, i found "Leonor" 02:04 < mnemoc_> which is a female name 02:04 < keinek> so... 02:04 < keinek> i have some problems for have the money. 02:04 < keinek> but i got it. 02:04 < mnemoc_> neither at work they know if keinek is male or female 02:04 < keinek> hahaha 02:05 < keinek> no no no, i am male. 02:05 < keinek> but a lots of jokes for that. 02:05 < valentin> leonor: do not worry ,) 02:06 < keinek> :P 02:06 < keinek> i will scan the check and will post. 02:06 < keinek> tomorrow. 02:07 < keinek> i will back in a minute. 02:13 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-82.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 02:23 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-82.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 02:24 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-82.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 02:38 < mnemoc_> re 02:45 < valentin> hi mnemoc_ 02:45 < mnemoc_> how is netconf going? 02:46 < valentin> hard... 02:46 < valentin> at least i can parse ppp status now (but i think it is quite fragile) 02:46 < valentin> not fragile in terms of stability, but of precission 02:49 < valentin> i have to integrate little stuff now, but there are also some remaining issues 02:49 < valentin> and i am too tired to think accurate 02:49 < valentin> damn 02:49 < valentin> less than 2.5h remaing 02:51 < mnemoc_> outch 02:55 < valentin> but maybe rxr sleeps longer :) 02:55 < valentin> otoh i need some sleep, soon 02:58 < mnemoc_> sleep 2h and finish netconf in 30' :) 02:58 < valentin> yeah 03:00 < keinek> sleep 10 h and... and... 03:00 < keinek> i dont finish anything :P 03:00 < keinek> i wanna sleep more :D 03:00 < mnemoc_> :) 03:01 < mnemoc_> go to sleep valentin... tired you wont finish 03:01 < valentin> i have to train living with few sleep - 7 weeks left... 03:01 < valentin> mnemoc_: i will 03:01 < valentin> and after that i die :/ 03:02 < mnemoc_> you can die, but just after finishing netconf 03:02 < keinek> i wanna a recursive Emerge 03:02 < keinek> so... after you can die. 03:02 < keinek> :D 03:03 < mnemoc_> keinek: recursive emerge is evil 03:03 < mnemoc_> keinek: you wont get that here 03:04 < keinek> i know, but i try. 03:04 < keinek> perhaps for my birtday. 03:04 < keinek> :P 03:05 < mnemoc_> emerge final packages doesn't hurt, but emerging packages which are dependencies of packages you already have is dangerous 03:05 < keinek> T2 Stable with ReCuRsIvE Emerge (evil) for Keinek :) 03:05 < mnemoc_> nah 03:05 < keinek> but look, why not just a option. 03:06 < keinek> like wget. 03:06 < keinek> wget have --level 03:06 < mnemoc_> -deps= 03:06 < keinek> wget is dangerous, you can download all the internet. 03:07 < mnemoc_> we are not wget 03:07 < keinek> i know. 03:08 < keinek> i just want decss my dvd. 03:09 < keinek> sometimes... i miss debian. 03:09 < keinek> but debian is in the past. 03:10 < keinek> now, t2 is my present and future. 03:10 < keinek> and.... why "t2"? 03:11 < keinek> rxr, like the movie "Terminator 2"??? 03:12 < valentin> keinek: which starting url for downloading whole internet ? 03:13 < keinek> i never do that. 03:13 < keinek> but www.google.com be the page. 03:13 < keinek> :) 03:14 < mnemoc_> try-two 03:14 < keinek> for these reasons wget --level=1 is a good command. 03:14 < mnemoc_> like 'try again' or 'keep trying' :) 03:14 < keinek> t2? 03:14 < keinek> sound like a "estornudo" 03:14 < keinek> TI CHU! 03:15 < keinek> :D 03:36 < mnemoc_> i love lvm! 03:36 < mnemoc_> i got 4 extra G to build T2 ref removing only 1 from /home/$client :D 03:47 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-82.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 03:49 < ojh> Has anyone else evaluated http://www.bitwiseim.com/ ? Commercial but uses a number of nifty Open Source technologies. 03:51 < ojh> The voice conferencing and whiteboard features would be quite useful for highly distributed projects. 03:53 < mnemoc_> not me 05:00 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-82.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 05:05 < valentin> WTF ? is it ATDP or ATPT for pulse dialing ? google says both ... 05:06 < valentin> for logig it schould be ATPT 05:08 < mnemoc_> ATDP: dial pulse 05:08 < mnemoc_> no idea what ATPT is 05:09 < valentin> mnemoc_: thanks, that is what i belived but some webpages confused my 05:10 < mnemoc_> did you sleep? 05:10 < valentin> no, but the sun comes out and wakes my up 05:11 < mnemoc_> AT DT is the command to call 05:11 < mnemoc_> AT DP 05:11 < mnemoc_> but ATPT?? no idea 05:11 < mnemoc_> AT DT is the command to call using tones* 05:13 < valentin> what is atd then ? 05:14 < mnemoc_> the prefix for dial commands 05:17 < mnemoc_> http://www.cellular.co.za/hayesat.htm#Hayes%20AT%20Commands 05:19 < mnemoc_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_command_set :D 05:20 < valentin> mnemoc_: i will not read anything today i do not need to read 05:20 < mnemoc_> :) 05:20 < mnemoc_> it was fun to remember hayes commands... 05:20 < mnemoc_> i closed my BBS on 1995 :) 05:21 < valentin> arg sun shines into my eyes 05:21 < valentin> time to darken my window 05:22 < mnemoc_> i have to use glasses to use my notebook :\ 05:22 < valentin> how can you read your display then ? 05:24 < mnemoc_> using these .25/.50 optical glasses i 'rest' 05:24 < mnemoc_> without them i get 'rabit eyes' after some minutes in front of the display 05:25 < valentin> my desk is right before my window and my window faces east. so between 5 and 8 the sun shines directly into my eyes and i can see nothing 05:26 < mnemoc_> move your desk or cover your windows 05:26 < mnemoc_> window* 05:32 < valentin> i prefer covering the windows, that is easier 05:34 < CIA-7> amery * r9524 /branches/2.1/package/java/tomcat/tomcat.conf: 05:34 < CIA-7> * decustmainized tomcat 05:34 < CIA-7> * changed tomcat to install at opt/tomcat 05:34 < valentin> where is rxr ? 05:35 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-250.prtc.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:35 < mnemoc_> my desk is right to the cloth wash machine 05:35 < mnemoc_> no sun around here 05:35 < mnemoc_> i use to have a room just for me, books computers, etc... but rafaella have it now :) 05:37 < CIA-7> amery * r9525 /branches/2.1/package/games/xblasttnt/xblasttnt.conf: * fixed xblasttnt to not install at /usrgames/ 05:37 < mnemoc_> valentin: sleeping? :) 05:37 < valentin> hm, your harddiscs like the vibrations ? 05:37 * valentin is sleeping awake 05:37 < valentin> need to write make install for a kde prog 05:38 < valentin> and adapt the code that pixmaps are loaded from that locations 05:38 < mnemoc_> valentin: the HDs of my desktop have short life.... 6-10 months 05:38 < mnemoc_> valentin: i hope laptop survives more 05:39 < valentin> no wonder as long as they are operating near to a washing machine 05:40 < mnemoc_> usually the washing machine is stopped when i'm here :) 06:39 -!- mubex [~mubex@65-23-207-250.prtc.net] has joined #t2 06:40 -!- mubex is now known as sparc-kly 06:49 < valentin> so, after a little breakfast .... 06:50 < valentin> think i could take another tea ... 06:55 < valentin> anyone here knows howto disable generic makefile targets ? 06:56 < mnemoc_> make ? 06:57 < mnemoc_> the first target: is assumed in that case.... foo:\n\tfalse would make it fail :) 06:57 < valentin> no, this is not what i meant 06:57 < valentin> i have a generic rule 06:58 < valentin> %.so: %.cc 06:58 < valentin> and i do not want this rule to be applied for one target 06:58 < mnemoc_> overwrtting %.so: ? ... no idea really 07:09 < valentin> so where is rxr ? he wanted to be "here" two hours before 07:09 * valentin -> tea 07:28 < valentin> *yawn* 07:35 < rxr> damn - did not properly woke up at 5 ... 07:35 < rxr> valentin: just define your custom rule 07:35 < rxr> ? even 07:35 < valentin> rxr: no, that did not work 07:36 < valentin> i hacked a bit around - suboptimal but works now 07:38 < rxr> what is the overall status ? 07:39 < valentin> can you checkout the netconf and see if it compiles / can be started 07:40 < valentin> it works on /tmp/pseudoconf and does not call ifup/ifdown right now 07:42 < rxr> wlan_device.cc:3:30: wireless_status.hh: No such file or directory CXX wlan_device.o 07:42 < rxr> wlan_device.cc:3:30: wireless_status.hh: No such file or directory 07:43 < valentin> .oO 07:44 < valentin> svn up 07:45 < valentin> if you wait two more seconds you can svn up another little fix 07:46 < rxr> ok - buitl now - and now? 07:46 < valentin> svn up 07:46 < valentin> make 07:46 < rxr> $ ./gui/netconf 07:46 < rxr> ./gui/netconf: error while loading shared libraries: libnetconf_configtree.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 07:47 < valentin> ah - you need to make install or execute in the local dir 07:47 < valentin> but svn up before 07:47 < valentin> if you do no make install, then you will not have the images 07:51 < rxr> it does not load my /etc/conf/network 07:52 < rxr> no attempt in strace -e open to come near to open an /etc/*network file 07:52 < valentin> as i said before, it uses /tmp/pseudoconf 07:53 < valentin> just copy your /etc/conf/network there 07:53 < valentin> or wait till i reverted it 07:54 < rxr> ah - better 07:54 < valentin> did you svn up at 07:46 ? 07:54 < rxr> yes 07:55 < rxr> Warning: line 16 : 'ppp /dev/tts/0 115200 debug' 07:56 < rxr> should serial device scan work ? 07:56 < valentin> warning ? 07:57 < rxr> this is what it print out wile reading my existing file ... 07:57 < valentin> there is support for deviceids in the codepath, but i do not call serpnp yet 07:57 < rxr> why not ? 07:57 < valentin> rxr: ah - i think because of the debug 07:57 < valentin> ignore that 07:57 < valentin> because i did not login to your box to test that 07:58 < valentin> i can do that in 5 minutes 07:58 < rxr> ok - what should I test ? 07:59 < valentin> do svn up and you get a new profile dialog 07:59 < valentin> if you have to much free time while i add serpnp 07:59 < valentin> you could make tests in systeminfo 07:59 < valentin> and see if the modem status works 08:00 < valentin> ok, otoh there are only numbers in the output which will not say much to you 08:00 < valentin> so, i implement serpnp calling now 08:01 < valentin> if you want to play around, just edit / switch differnet profiles and check if the tool behaves as it should 08:01 < rxr> should the activate / deactive button work ? 08:01 < rxr> what sudo rules are needed ? 08:01 < valentin> 07:40 < valentin> it works on /tmp/pseudoconf and does not call ifup/ifdown right now 08:01 < valentin> mom\ 08:02 < valentin> sth like 08:02 < valentin> %users localhost= NOPASSWD: /sbin/ifup 08:02 < valentin> %users localhost= NOPASSWD: /sbin/ifdown 08:02 < valentin> and something for the file access, if you do not want to set it public readable 08:02 < rxr> how should I test it when everything to test is disable ... 08:02 < rxr> +d 08:03 < valentin> just wait ten minutes, and it will work 08:04 < valentin> where should i place a temporary copy of the config ? /etc/conf/network.tmp ? 08:04 < valentin> and should i write the config back via sudo ? 08:05 < rxr> /tmp/network-XXXXXX 08:05 < rxr> with mkstemp ? 08:06 < valentin> hm, if you want it to be a tmp file ... 08:06 < rxr> this is good-style on unix systems for serveral good reasons ... 08:06 < valentin> i rather thought about backup and intermediate copy when restarting active profiles 08:07 < valentin> but it will not work for me 08:07 < rxr> why ? 08:07 < valentin> because it saves the current config until you deactivate the active profile 08:07 < valentin> and if you quit the application in betweeen this config is lost 08:08 < valentin> with a fixed file, this will not happen 08:08 < rxr> you want to use the other temp file then to continue editing ? 08:08 < valentin> yes, i work in the intermediate file only. just between switching profiles etc i wanted to copy the file over 08:09 < valentin> because rocknet does not like it when its config is edited 08:09 < rxr> then why do you ask me what file to use when you already know what you want to use ... 08:09 < rxr> valentin: how do you copy the file ? 08:09 < valentin> i just want a fixed name, but i do not mind the path 08:10 < valentin> cp or sudo cp, both are equaly zero security 08:10 < rxr> if you want a fix name use it nearby the original file ... 08:10 < rxr> /etc/conf/network-netconf-copy or whatever 08:10 < valentin> that is ok 08:10 < valentin> so how would you copy the file ? 08:11 < rxr> ah - yes - you need thru sudo ... 08:11 < rxr> forgot that ... 08:12 < valentin> why ? you could set the permissions to "lousy" 08:12 < valentin> but sudo is better to be configured by the user 08:12 < rxr> no lousy permissions, please 08:13 < rxr> the use cp - but with '-p' to preserve possibly set restricted permissions ... 08:13 < rxr> how do you read the file? open / read ? 08:14 < valentin> where are ifup / ifdown located on the new systems ? 08:14 < valentin> rxr: i just read / write to my local copy 08:14 < valentin> and copy once 08:15 < valentin> so you could just add the cp /etc/conf/network-netconf-copy /etc/conf/network to the sudoers 08:15 < rxr> ok - what is pending and when can I release the version on CD ? 08:15 < valentin> and i call sudo cp 08:15 < valentin> i just put those sudo calls in there 08:15 < valentin> and then we should test the modem stuff 08:15 < valentin> as soon as i put the final pieces together 08:15 < valentin> the config should work and be rock solid 08:15 < valentin> now 08:16 < rxr> can you add a README with the sudo rules ,-) 08:16 < valentin> maybe i finish it first ... 08:20 < rxr> Linux v2.6.12-rc6 08:23 < valentin> hm, sudo does not like the arguments in its config file 08:23 < valentin> i could write a small script to be installed in sbin 08:27 < rxr> valentin: you can put the arguments in the sudoes file ... 08:27 < rxr> # Samples 08:27 < rxr> # %users localhost=/sbin/shutdown -h now 08:28 < valentin> hm, i tried exactly that .. 08:28 < valentin> who cares, the one-line script works too 08:29 < rxr> valentin: let's not inject too much custom junk 08:29 < rxr> configuring sudo right should work, too 08:30 < valentin> ok, i revert it later 08:31 < valentin> ah, btw the user must have write permissions to /etc/conf/network-netconf-copy 08:33 < rxr> well - or write a tiny script, that copies and set the write bit ... 08:33 < rxr> please use cat file > /etc/conf/network then to preserve the original permissions ... 08:33 < valentin> ok 08:35 < rxr> the bandwith use of the *mule crap confuses me ... 08:35 < rxr> hundreds of soures and only a few kB on my side ... 08:35 < _Ragnar_> all leeches 08:39 < valentin> rxr: the install now touches an empty /etc/conf/network-netconf-copy with permission 666 in that dir 08:39 < valentin> so you do not need to open /etc/conf for reading/writing 08:48 < rxr> rxr: yeah - sucks ... 08:52 < rxr> google has a new daily picture ... 09:02 < valentin> hm, i put all stuff the rocknet stuff together, but now it crashes on ifdown 09:03 < rxr> your Qt app crashes ? 09:04 < valentin> ouhm 09:04 < valentin> did you enable some vpn beetween our servers ? 09:04 < rxr> ? 09:05 < rxr> yes, why ? 09:05 < rxr> gsmp once had it - but I'm not sure if it is used right now ... 09:05 < valentin> i had a 192.168.2. address and it still worked ?! 09:05 < valentin> ok, maybe /16 09:06 < rxr> hm - no in such a way there is no VPN 09:06 < rxr> IIRC 09:06 < rxr> nope 09:07 < valentin> i think i had a netmasc of 255.255.0.0 and this is why my packages were still routed 09:10 < valentin> so, think i found a reason 09:14 < valentin> hm, gdb sucks 09:20 < valentin> re 09:21 < valentin> besides that gdb sometimes messed up my system ... 09:22 < valentin> btw: rocknet gives me a Unknown statement in config file: ppp_chat_defaults 09:22 < valentin> ah - it should be chat_defaults 09:24 < valentin> damn, once again screwed the config 09:31 < valentin> opindddrr;kj;lskdjf;lksj 09:31 < valentin> ah 09:31 < valentin> ok 09:32 < valentin> rxr: my iwconfig is in /usr/sbin 09:32 < valentin> and not in sbin 09:32 < valentin> is this intended ? 09:34 < valentin> ok, /me adding /usr/sbin to path, too 09:38 < valentin> my poor computer gets confused by all those reconfigurations 09:39 < valentin> rxr: i can now switch between profiles configuring ethernet and wireless ethernet 09:39 < valentin> esp if the config was created using this program exclusively, i see not very big problems 09:40 < valentin> now i have to take a look at ppp 09:40 < valentin> if you want to try, svn up and recompile 09:40 < valentin> and reinstall 09:40 < valentin> and do not forget to quit the running app 09:40 < valentin> if it is still in the systemtray 09:51 < rxr> re 09:52 < rxr> well - I think it is there by accident .. 09:52 < rxr> use it for now 09:53 < valentin> ?? 09:53 < valentin> what is where by which accident ? 09:53 < valentin> ah - iwconfig 09:53 < valentin> can you svn up and play a bit with netconf ? 09:58 < rxr> undefined references 09:59 < rxr> I make clean ; make ... 10:00 < valentin> to what ? 10:00 < valentin> maybe you have trouble because of the installed version ? 10:01 < rxr> no help 10:02 < rxr> don't tell me I have to make uninstall on each build ... 10:02 < rxr> profile_manager.o(.text+0x2a44): In function `ProfileManager::setInterfaceUp(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, bool)': 10:02 < rxr> /home/rene/develop/netconf-trunk/gui/profile_manager.cc:275: undefined reference to `TriggerIfDown(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&)' 10:02 < rxr> profile_manager.o(.text+0x2b29):/home/rene/develop/netconf-trunk/gui/profile_manager.cc:280: undefined reference to `TriggerIfUp(std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&, std::basic_string, std::allocator > const&)' 10:02 < valentin> ouhm 10:02 < valentin> where did you make ? 10:02 < valentin> in the gui subdir only ? 10:02 < rxr> no - topdir 10:03 < rxr> ~/develop/netconf-trunk$ 10:03 < rxr> At revision 212. 10:03 < valentin> hm, try deleteting configtree/configtree.so gui/netconf 10:03 < valentin> and make 10:03 < valentin> oh - you even did a make clean ? 10:03 < rxr> yes 10:03 < valentin> hm 10:03 < valentin> it should be in systeminfo.o 10:04 < rxr> forgotten svn commit on some file on your side ? 10:04 < valentin> do not think so 10:05 < valentin> no 10:05 < valentin> wait - i do a make clean all 10:05 < rxr> still ... 10:06 < valentin> hm, i compiled my version, but now i try to compile all 10:07 < valentin> what does nm systeminfo/systeminfo.o say about those functions ? 10:07 < rxr> I 10:08 < rxr> 'm right now rebuilding with libnetconf-s.th.so removed 10:08 < rxr> in-system one 10:08 < rxr> worked 10:08 < valentin> oh 10:08 < rxr> valentin: why is the system .so mixed in ?!?!? 10:09 < valentin> it links against the iinstalled version ? 10:09 < rxr> seems so 10:09 < valentin> no idea, beacuse ld sucks ? 10:09 < rxr> why do you link it shared anyway? 10:09 < valentin> how do i set path priority ? 10:09 < rxr> why don't you like all your objects together ? 10:09 < valentin> feel free to change it 10:09 < rxr> # rm /opt/kde3/lib/libnetconf_configtree.so 10:09 < rxr> ^- that helped ... 10:10 < rxr> well - grummel ... 10:12 < rxr> ok 10:19 < rxr> your netconf compiles quite long ... 10:19 < rxr> even on the 2.5Ghz Athlon ... 10:19 < valentin> i know 10:19 < valentin> and i even speeded it much up 10:19 < rxr> I hope you use ccache ... 10:20 < valentin> no but i normaly only recompile 1 or 2 objects per run 10:25 < valentin> btw: if you compile an "official" version later, you should remove the '-g' from the options and set some size optimization 10:25 < rxr> the T2 system will take care .. 10:26 < rxr> I do not touch such switcher manually - never ... 10:26 < rxr> I just hack .a build 10:26 < rxr> I only need to search why it throws undefined references on me ... 10:29 < valentin> again ? 10:30 < rxr> yea - but due to my .a transition ... 10:32 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9526 /trunk/package/ (21 files in 21 dirs): * added some .cache files 10:39 < rxr> valentin: svn up and give my .a transition a try ... 10:39 < rxr> Committed revision 214. 10:39 < rxr> Committed revision 214. 10:41 < valentin> i cannot compile yet, because i am writing some code 10:41 < rxr> ok - should build and run fine anyway ,-) 10:47 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9527 /trunk/package/graphic/wings3d/wings3d.desc: * updated wings3d (0.98.26b -> 0.98.29b) 10:54 < rxr> *multilib_defaults: 10:54 < rxr> m32 10:54 < rxr> ? yay! 10:55 < rxr> s/?/!/ 10:57 < valentin> ? 11:02 < rxr> valentin: I'm just happy that I successfully hacked up the sparc64 gcc to produce 32bit binaries by default ... 11:03 < rxr> == 10:49:25 =[9]=> Building scientific/scilab [3.1.1 2.2.0-alpha]. 11:03 < rxr> !> cc1: note: -fwritable-strings is deprecated; see documen .. 11:03 < rxr> !> cc1: note: -fwritable-strings is deprecated; see documen .. 11:03 < rxr> ... 11:05 < CIA-7> rene * r9528 /trunk/package/base/gcc/biarch-wo-multilib.patch: 11:05 < CIA-7> * resurrected gcc/biarch-wo-multilib.patch and reworked it to patch 11:05 < CIA-7> sparc64 to produce a -m32 defaulting compiler 11:05 < rxr> valentin: mnemoc_ and I decided we want sparc64 ISO ready for 2.1 ,-) 11:05 < rxr> and yes - I know we are crazzy ... 11:06 < valentin> maybe it will be ready before netconf ... .oO 11:07 < rxr> valentin: ? 11:07 < CIA-7> rene * r9529 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * moved biarch patch to architecture/sparc64 11:16 < valentin> rxr: why does the makefile still copy the .so ? 11:16 < rxr> oh - forgot to rm that - sorry 11:17 < rxr> is the AR .a stuf fine otherwise ? 11:17 < valentin> well, it works 11:17 < valentin> i did not take a look what you did 11:19 < rxr> == 09:17:43 =[1]=> Building base/ncurses [5.4 2.2.0-alpha]. 11:19 < rxr> -> Altering arch_{machine,target} to sparc ... 11:19 < rxr> a few lines of injected shell code can transform so much in T2 ,-) 11:20 < rxr> if I would cluster the 3 sparcs here I might be able to compile a desktop in about a week or so ,-) 11:20 < rxr> == 09:18:49 =[0]=> Building base/gcc [3.4.3 2.2.0-alpha]. 11:20 < rxr> -> Patching package to default to -m32 ... 11:39 < valentin> rxr: can you svn up and test with the modem ? 11:42 < rxr> osnews.com is blank ? 11:43 < rxr> no - only misrednered adv. on the top ,-) 11:45 < CIA-7> rene * r9530 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 11:45 < CIA-7> * implemented 32bit userspace for sprac64 builds (nice option 11:45 < CIA-7> with big help text) 11:46 < rxr> you have not committed the .so install removal ? 11:50 < rxr> ouhm - ... 11:51 < rxr> should I call or do you ? 11:52 < valentin> no 11:52 < valentin> call me 11:52 < rxr> on ? 11:52 < valentin> ? 11:52 < rxr> no ? that should have been ... 12:06 < rxr> jjJun 8 12:05:36 haudraufinix chat[316]: Can't get terminal parameters: Input/output error 12:07 < rxr> sorry - might be my fault - though I'm sure I slected COM1 and not COM2 ... 12:08 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 12:08 < jeru> moin 12:09 < rxr> valentin: when do you copy the file? 12:09 < rxr> not on ok? 12:12 < rxr> # ./test_ppp_status /var/log/ppp0 12:12 < rxr> update status 12:12 < rxr> update status 12:12 < rxr> 3 8 0 12:12 < rxr> 3 8 1 12:12 < rxr> 3 8 2 12:12 < rxr> 3 8 3 12:12 < rxr> ? 12:12 < rxr> the log contains 12:12 < rxr> Failed (ERROR) 12:12 < rxr> Connect script failed 12:14 < valentin> yep 12:14 < valentin> the numbers say the same thing 12:15 < valentin> see ppp_status.hh 12:15 < rxr> aha - those numbers where not obvious to me - 12:15 < valentin> first number is status, second number is error code, third number is connection time 12:16 < rxr> and why is it clibing when it is not connected ... 12:16 < rxr> .o(am I pedantic ... ?) 12:16 < CIA-7> rene * r9531 /trunk/package/scientific/scilab/scilab.desc: * updated scilab (3.0 -> 3.1.1) 12:18 < valentin> the connection time is difference between connection date and now 12:18 < valentin> of course this value is only usefull while the connection is established 12:21 < rxr> you need to quote the config values for chat and co this way: ' 12:21 < valentin> i could easyly set this to zero, but why should i do this test ? normaly the userinterface will not poll it 12:21 < valentin> .oO 12:21 < valentin> quoting, yes ... 12:21 < valentin> this is on my issue paper 12:22 < rxr> - chat_init "at&d2&c1" 12:22 < rxr> - chat_dial ATDT879876 12:22 < rxr> + chat_init 'at&d2&c1' 12:22 < rxr> + chat_dial 'ATDT879876' 12:22 < valentin> i knew something is left 12:22 < rxr> otherwise chat will due random junk ... 12:22 < valentin> some things are not quoted at all ... 12:22 < valentin> like essids etc 12:22 < valentin> i wanted to change that 12:22 < valentin> but if you want a hotfix, just change line 12:22 < rxr> well - I call again .. 12:36 < rxr> send (at&d2&c1^M) 12:36 < rxr> expect (OK) 12:36 < rxr> ^M 12:36 < rxr> at&d2&c1^M^M 12:36 < rxr> OK -- got it 12:36 < rxr> send (ATDT019161^M) 12:36 < rxr> expect (CONNECT) 12:36 < rxr> ^M 12:36 < rxr> ATDT019161^M^M 12:36 < rxr> CONNECT -- got it 12:36 < rxr> send (^M) 12:36 < rxr> Serial connection established. 12:36 < rxr> using channel 1 12:36 < rxr> Using interface ppp0 12:36 < rxr> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/tts/0 12:38 < rxr> but serpnp does right now refuse to work ... 12:38 < valentin> hm 12:41 < rxr> # ./a.out /dev/tts/0 12:41 < rxr> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 12:41 < rxr> it does not like UltraSPARC either ... 12:43 < rxr> (gdb) bt 12:43 < rxr> #0 0xfffff800000131fc in ?? () 12:43 < rxr> #1 0xfffff800000118f0 in ?? () 12:43 < rxr> Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) 12:43 < rxr> ouhm 12:43 < valentin> i get that all day 12:43 < valentin> is this qt ? 12:45 < rxr> no serpnp on UltraSPARC 12:45 < rxr> PnP checksum: 0xB31 12:45 < rxr> checksum error!ELS8318 12:45 < rxr> CLASS: MODEM 12:45 < rxr> DESCRIPTION: MicroLink 56k 12:45 < rxr> Resetting port ... 12:45 < rxr> ^- RS/6k 12:46 < valentin> hm 12:46 < rxr> I think the UltraSPARC is a toolchain problem - I'm just boostrapping a sprac64 system with 32bit user-space anyway ... 12:46 < valentin> checksum error ? maybe some endianess bug ? 12:46 < rxr> no - I always got this 12:46 < rxr> either the modem sends crap or my code is not yet right 12:46 < rxr> ignore it ... 12:46 < rxr> only matcvh for CLASS: and DESCRIPTION: 12:47 < rxr> I need to visit the toiled and get a fresh coffe 12:48 < rxr> and I also thin a pullover - bibber 13:01 < rxr> valentin: what about a new svn repository: Exact Config Make -> ecm ,-) 13:01 < valentin> but not today 13:01 < rxr> and svn:external the rules and co in gsmp, embeddedSTL, hotplug++, netconf ... ... 13:01 < rxr> of course not ... 13:17 < rxr> du -csh ooo 13:17 < rxr> 220M ooo 13:17 < rxr> ouhm 13:20 < rxr> --- Warning - OO.o will not work without a mounted /proc filesystem --- 13:20 < rxr> ... 13:21 < rxr> OO.o will not work wihtout huge amounts of disk space and RAM and the universe mounted ... 13:21 < rxr> # oowriter1.9 13:21 < rxr> no suitable windowing system found, exiting. 13:21 < rxr> what the s*it f*cking h*ll ... 13:21 < rxr> can people stop handing sun employees too many drugs ? 13:23 < jeru> rxr: you mean not handing out too much burgers and coke ;) 13:24 < rxr> is there a difference ? 13:24 < jeru> no :) 13:24 < rxr> so - I can not test ooo in the chrooted livecd - but need to either boot it in some emulator or real hw - just because ooo is full of such strange checks ... 13:24 < rxr> thanks sun - for wasting my time ... 13:28 < rxr> 5GB+ freed on the RAID 5 by deleting lars' videos ,-) 13:28 < CIA-7> rene * r9532 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.02 -> 2.03) 13:32 < CIA-7> rene * r9533 /trunk/package/base/lsof/lsof.desc: * updated lsof (4.74 -> 4.75) 13:33 < jeru> rxr: just a note: zlib has some "outside of the base dir problems" in stage 1 too ... I solved this by commenting out the prefix='' line in zlib.conf, but doesn't know if it's correct. why was the default prefix overwritten, anyway ? 13:34 < CIA-7> rene * r9534 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbd/dvbd.desc: * updated dvbd (0.7.6 -> 0.7.7) 13:34 < rxr> ouhm - even I do not know that detail off hand - svn blame on the file is usual a good way to remember or find out ... 13:37 < jeru> rxr: hmmm ... never used svn blame ... but don't think about it further. I guess we all have much time today, so we can check this later ;) 13:40 < CIA-7> rene * r9535 /trunk/package/network/squid/squid.desc: * updated squid (2.5.STABLE9 -> 2.5.STABLE10) 13:40 < valentin> damn QT signals 13:46 < valentin> hm, if the objects of the former .so change, the application is not relinked 13:47 < rxr> hm 13:48 < valentin> this was valid, as long as it was an .so 13:49 < valentin> so the application only reacts to interface changes 13:49 < rxr> add the libs as depend to the final binary? 13:50 < valentin> this can be dangerous 13:50 < valentin> afaik the makefile trys to compile them 13:50 < CIA-7> rene * r9536 /trunk/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * updated afterstep (2.1.0 -> 2.1.1) 13:52 < valentin> what is this sh.... 13:53 < rxr> ? 13:54 < valentin> the binary does not change 13:56 < valentin> hm, why do i still have the old makefile ? 13:57 < rxr> old makefiel ? 13:58 < valentin> it still links the .so 13:59 < rxr> sure? 13:59 < rxr> why do you think so ? 14:00 < valentin> LIBS := $(SYSLIBS) -L. -lnetconf_configtree 14:01 < valentin> ah - ok 14:02 < CIA-7> rene * r9537 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (1.0.1 -> 1.0.3) 14:03 < CIA-7> rene * r9538 /trunk/package/kde/kiosktool/kiosktool.desc: * updated kiosktool (0.9 -> 1.0) 14:04 < CIA-7> rene * r9539 /trunk/package/multimedia/easytag/easytag.desc: * updated easytag (0.31 -> 1.1) 14:06 < valentin> rxr: i fixed some issues now 14:07 < valentin> esp ppp does auto-hangup on error now (was just a typo in q QT slot name) 14:07 < rxr> and I squash the live fs for a test right now - takes 15min++ - I think I grab some pizza or so in that time ... 14:07 < rxr> auto hangup ? 14:07 < rxr> valentin: btw. regarding the modem - did you find it ? 14:07 < valentin> ifdown on error and display error code 14:07 < valentin> kerstins ? 14:09 < valentin> the live cd's ppp support will be unusable 14:09 < valentin> just as a warning 14:10 < jeru> valentin: why ? 14:12 < rxr> valentin: define unusable ...? what is the problem ? 14:12 < valentin> not the ppp, the netconf 14:12 < valentin> take head 14:12 < valentin> just again a fucking qt slot 14:15 < valentin> jeru: no problem for you 14:15 < valentin> i just talked about rxr's test version 14:17 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-250.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:27 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-250.prtc.net] has joined #t2 14:31 < rxr> Klage gegen Nokia wegen Freisprechfunktion in Handys Der finnische Erfinder Jari Lahtinen hat Nokia in Finnland wegen Patentmissbrauchs verklagt. In seiner Klage wirft er dem Handy-Riesen vor, gegen ein 2003 erteiltes Patent zu verstossen, das die Bedienung eines Mobiltelefons vorsieht, ohne dies daf?r in die Hand nehmen zu m?ssen 14:31 < rxr> http://golem.de/0506/38523.html 14:32 < rxr> 319863 extents written (624 MB) 14:32 < rxr> ^- including ooo 14:33 < valentin> rxr: `which serpnp` ? 14:33 < rxr> /usr/sbin/serpnp 14:33 < rxr> ? 14:33 < valentin> ok 14:34 < valentin> works as normal user ? 14:34 < rxr> serpnp ? only if you have access to the device 14:34 < rxr> thus normally not 14:35 < valentin> so we need another sudo rule for it ? 14:36 < rxr> valentin: you could also do all with one netconf-helper sudo script ... 14:37 < valentin> hm 14:41 < valentin> ok, i just put it into the helper 14:46 < valentin> so emerged serpnp and tested - just that i have no modem 14:46 < valentin> rxr: can you svn up, make install and do a sudo /sbin/netconf-copy.sh serpnp to see if it matches the modem ? 14:47 < mnemoc_> hi zombie-valentin, rxr 14:48 < valentin> must eat brain... 14:48 < rxr> ouhm 14:48 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 14:49 < rxr> ouhm - valentin my serial port on the athlon is in a strange state ... and does not want to serpnp the modem right now ... 14:49 < valentin> ok 14:49 < valentin> then we trust it works :) 14:49 < rxr> valentin: did you write if you have located k. modem ? 14:49 < valentin> yes :**(( 14:50 < valentin> win siff 14:53 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/5-glibc-bootdisk.err <--- anyone see the error? 14:54 < valentin> rxr: i want to sleep a bit soon 14:54 < rxr> well - go sleeping ... 14:54 < rxr> I think we'll not release the cd before midnight anyway 14:55 < rxr> and with this overdue it does not matter much anyway 14:55 < jeru> hi mnemoc_ 14:55 < mnemoc_> valentin: you can't die before finishing netconf 14:55 < mnemoc_> jeru: hi 14:55 < valentin> mnemoc_: it's ready - try it 14:55 < valentin> but do not complain if it eats your config 14:55 < jeru> mnemoc_: btw, I've done a svn up and restarted desktop build for 2.1 14:55 < mnemoc_> valentin: ppp qalso? 14:56 < rxr> [pid 5048] open("/dev/tts/0", O_RDWR|O_NOCTTY 14:56 < rxr> ^ on my athlon - some previous ppp run put the device into a state where serpnp hangs opening it ... 14:56 < valentin> mnemoc_: if you take the head version, you can try out 14:56 < valentin> at least the config works 14:57 < CIA-7> chris * r9540 /trunk/package/network/pound/pound.desc: * updated pound (1.8.2 -> 1.9) 14:57 < valentin> rxr: is the netconf dir public available ? 14:57 < mnemoc_> valentin: good, go and rest in peace now :) 14:57 < valentin> thank you 14:58 < rxr> sure 14:58 < valentin> good night 14:58 < rxr> n8 valentin 14:58 < valentin> maybe i'll be awake this night again 14:58 < valentin> cu 14:59 < mnemoc_> cu valentin 14:59 < rxr> mnemoc_: never saw this error beside now in your log ... 15:00 < CIA-7> chris * r9541 /trunk/package/python/python-ldap/python-ldap.desc: * updated python-ldap (2.0.6 -> 2.0.7) 15:01 < rxr> woa - 33kB this P2P climbing too new highs ... 15:01 < rxr> guess I really have to adapt my firewall some time soon ... 15:02 < mnemoc_> :) 15:03 < rxr> 42kB - my god ... 15:03 < mnemoc_> l7-filter is great detecting p2p so you can mark them, shape them and QoS them :) 15:03 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.214.3.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 15:03 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.221.174.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 15:03 < rxr> ouhm - even more to read - thta will takes days to get this wifi cracker out of my net ... 15:04 < rxr> why does the wifi industry ship that insecure access points - I can not belive others utilize my net ... :-( 15:08 < rxr> mnemoc_: my sparc64/32 build is progressing ... 15:09 < mnemoc_> rc2 will be out beofre rc1 :D 15:09 < netrunner> rxr: why don't you simply send him nacks for all of his packets? :) 15:10 < mnemoc_> does AP support that? 15:14 < rxr> valentin: # ./netconf-copy.sh serpnp /dev/tts/1 15:14 < rxr> MicroLink 56k 15:15 < mnemoc_> rxr: what happen if two usr/share/application-registry/%.applications file describe the same mime? 15:15 < mnemoc_> rxr: and if two usr/share/mime-info/%.{mime,key} define the same mime? 15:17 < rxr> no idea 15:19 < mnemoc_> :( 15:19 < rxr> oh - my gravis bashing succeeded - they will exchange my top case of my iBook that is falling appart ,-) 15:20 < rxr> just some letters to tell them I would sue them otherwise and w'll meet in court - and - whoops - there it is ,-) 15:20 < mnemoc_> hehe 15:21 < rxr> well - I have not payed for an extra inssurange that will not pay in the case the thing falls apart ... 15:22 < rxr> and according to the "text/contract" they would even pay when it gets stolen I destroy it in whatever way - and they they tell me falling appart itself is not included ... 15:22 < mnemoc_> pff 15:25 < rxr> you name it ... 15:47 -!- mipe [~who@l243.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 15:48 < rxr> hi mipe 15:48 < rxr> how are you ? 15:48 < mipe> hi rxr 15:48 < jeru> hi mipe 15:48 < mipe> good,been busy at work. and doing some premilinary research for my thesis 15:48 < mipe> and how have you been guys? 15:49 < mipe> and hi rxr,jeru 15:49 < rxr> oh - mostly fine, too ,-) 15:49 < rxr> mipe: is your home box up again ? 15:50 < mipe> rxr: nope :( , theres nobody near that house, so i guess we have to wait till friday 15:50 < rxr> ok 15:58 < CIA-7> chris * r9542 /trunk/package/archiver/zlib/zlib.conf: 15:58 < CIA-7> * removed premake hook, which has modified the Makefile 15:58 < CIA-7> * added var_append makeinstopt " " "mandir=$root/$mandir" as replacement for the former premake hook 15:58 < CIA-7> * splitted var_append's into seperated lines for better readability 16:03 < mnemoc_> rxr: on a second build of 5-glibc it build 16:04 < rxr> we had some other stray issue, too - myaybe PARALLEL ? 16:06 < mnemoc_> doesn't look like a parallelism problem 16:07 < rxr> but? 16:07 < rxr> this is long: 16:07 < mnemoc_> looks like nothing :( 16:07 < rxr> # file bin/bash 16:07 < rxr> bin/bash: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, SPARC32PLUS, V8+ Required, Sun UltraSPARC1 Extensions Required, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped 16:07 < mnemoc_> :) 16:08 < mnemoc_> (uses shared libs)? why don't explain what a shared library is also? 16:09 < rxr> that was file - not ldd ,-) 16:09 < rxr> file has some magics - but not a parser for god and the world ,-) 16:10 < mnemoc_> :) 16:10 < rxr> tough that would certainly be nice - just produce a GB sized binary or library set *g* 16:10 < rxr> file some-audodesk-3dmax-file.whatever-the-ext-was ,-) 16:10 < rxr> 3dm? 16:11 < mnemoc_> :D 16:11 < rxr> whatever ... 16:11 < rxr> AutoCAD was .dwg ... and this exchange thing .dxf ... 16:11 < jeru> rxr: ack 16:11 < rxr> what was 3Dmax ...hm - too long out of the buisiness ... 16:12 < CIA-7> amery * r9543 /branches/2.1/package/archiver/zlib/zlib.conf: * merged 9365,9542 from trunk: fixed zlib to use our mandir on a valid top-level dir 16:12 < mnemoc_> <@IdleBot> mnemoc was taught to run quickly by a secret tribe of pygmies that know how to, among other things, run quickly! This wondrous godsend has accelerated them 1 day, 11:40:57 towards level 57. 16:13 * mnemoc_ runs quickly 16:15 < jeru> mnemoc_: perhaps you should learn "rolling" instead of "running". I thinks it's more efficient ;) 16:16 < mnemoc_> i don't roll... yet :) 16:16 < mnemoc_> do you? 16:16 < jeru> nah ! :) 16:17 < jeru> I "rolled" in younger ages .... so I know how to do it ;) 16:17 < mnemoc_> :) 16:18 < jeru> ok .. cu later ... rolling home now :) 16:18 < mnemoc_> cu jeru 16:19 < mnemoc_> rxr: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- 17 of 1580.... what should i do with .cache files? 16:19 < mnemoc_> mipe: ping 16:19 < jeru> cu mnemoc_ 16:19 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:20 < mipe> mnemoc_: pong 16:20 < mtr_> re 16:20 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 16:21 < mipe> hi mtr 16:21 < mtr> hi mipe 16:21 < mnemoc_> mipe: do you have time for fix sun-*-150/gnome? 16:21 < mnemoc_> hi mtr 16:21 < mtr> hi mnemoc_ 16:22 < mipe> gnome? 16:22 < mnemoc_> there is an AddGnome function inside .bin 16:22 < mnemoc_> which produce this share: http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/log/5-sun-jre-150.err 16:23 < keinek> is a good moment for build a stable?? 16:23 < mnemoc_> keinek: yes 16:23 < mnemoc_> i was thinking in changing it to use ${_icon}-jre (or -jdk) instead of just ${_icon} 16:23 < keinek> ok 16:24 < keinek> i will download the stable for clean my computer. 16:24 < keinek> i copy only download 16:24 < keinek> and my target :) 16:26 < mipe> mnemoc_: do you wanna get rid of whole AddGnome stuff? 16:27 < mnemoc_> mipe: should i? 16:27 < mnemoc_> mipe: i was thinking about changing it 16:29 < mipe> mnemoc: well its just gnome registry stuff, i'll just comment the calls out... 16:29 < mnemoc_> mipe: :) 16:29 < mnemoc_> mipe: ok 16:30 < rxr> 37kB ... 16:30 < mnemoc_> go p2p go 16:32 < rxr> > - Can you give an example of an operation which may yield an undefined 16:32 < rxr> > non-deterministic result which is reliably useful for anything? 16:32 < rxr> Hm. int foo (const char *x, int y) { return printf (x, y); } 16:32 < rxr> ^- ouhm 16:33 < mnemoc_> o_O 16:35 < mipe> mnemoc_: http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/registry-and-mime-fixes.patch 16:35 < mipe> i hope that helps 16:35 < mipe> contains the earlier mime fixes too 16:36 < mnemoc_> your previous mime-fixes was wrong 16:36 < mipe> mnemoc: really? 16:36 < mnemoc_> if; then; things can't be empty 16:36 < rxr> 886 MB .iso - where do I burn that on ... ? 16:36 < mipe> oh crap, hold on, i'll fix that too 16:37 < mnemoc_> mipe: sync with 2.1 HEAD and fix that one :) 16:37 < mnemoc_> and add 'remove AddGnome' to that one i mean 16:37 < mnemoc_> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1/package/java/sun-jre-150/mime-type-remove.diff 16:39 < mnemoc_> mipe: you can commit the change if you want 16:39 < mnemoc_> oh... damn... i have to go. 16:40 < mnemoc_> cu 16:51 < rxr> cu mnemoc_ 16:53 < rxr> == 14:36:32 =[1]=> Building base/texinfo [4.8 2.2.0-alpha]. 16:53 < rxr> -> Altering arch_{machine,target} to sparc ... 16:53 < rxr> -> Reading package configuration from package directory. 16:53 < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.texinfo.1118241385.1622.0 16:53 < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-texinfo.out 16:53 < rxr> !> Apply patch /t2-trunk/package/base/texinfo/configure.pat .. 16:53 < rxr> !> patching file configure.ac 16:53 < rxr> !> Creating /t2-trunk/build/default-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9v .. 16:53 < rxr> !> Running builtin autogen script. 16:53 < rxr> !> ./scripts/functions: line 771: libtoolize: command not f .. 16:53 < rxr> I have no libtoolize on my minimal SPARC system ... 16:53 < rxr> seems we have a new regression that 1-libtool needs libtoolize now ... 16:53 < rxr> 1-texinfo even ... 16:53 < rxr> the new texinfo just sucks - I vote for downdate ... 16:53 < rxr> ouhm 16:54 < rxr> mp3 from windows people sound just bad ... 16:54 < rxr> again a 192kbs mp3 that sound like a pc-speaker in a cola tin .. 16:58 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.15.8] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:58 -!- mipe [~who@l243.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:12 -!- rxr_ [rene@e178138101.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:12 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 17:12 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 17:12 [Users #t2] 17:12 [ _Lewellyn] [ jsaw ] [ netrunner] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly ] 17:12 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg ] [ sepp ] [ sparc-kly[u5]] 17:12 [ CIA-7 ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ SerWou] [ valentin ] 17:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 17:12 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 17:12 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 17:12 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 17:15 -!- mipe [~who@l243.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 17:15 < rxr_> rehi 17:16 < rxr_> cool - I found the semi-final key to get this grave hack removed that is so problematic on 64bit systems ,-) 17:25 < rxr_> # FIXME: To remove some day. 17:25 < rxr_> if test "x$host_alias" != x; then 17:25 < rxr_> if test "x$build_alias" = x; then 17:25 < rxr_> cross_compiling=maybe 17:25 < rxr_> lol 17:25 < rxr_> fuzzy logic shell code ,-) 17:29 -!- rxr [rene@e178131010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:46 < mtr> rxr_: the last texinfo fix was from me, did not thought about libtool regressions ... 17:46 -!- You're now known as rxr 17:47 < mtr> maybe we could avoid this by changing configure instead of configure.ac 17:47 < rxr> yep 17:47 < mtr> i will test this 17:49 < rxr> do you prepare it now? my SPARC build is lingering on that package ... 17:51 < mtr> yes, already created new patch 17:51 < mnemoc_> re 17:51 < rxr> hey mnemoc_ 17:52 < mtr> hi mnemoc_ 17:52 < mnemoc_> hi rxr, mtr 17:53 < mnemoc_> rxr: i think if we provide good installable base systems we can worry less about stage 1 dependencies 18:00 < rxr> mnemoc_: I build on a minimal T2 ... 18:00 < rxr> when it is not buildable there, ... I care ... 18:00 < mnemoc_> :( 18:00 < mnemoc_> bad bad 18:00 < rxr> I should setup a xen domain to continously bootstrap T2 on a minimal T2 ... 18:01 < CIA-7> mtr * r9544 /trunk/package/base/texinfo/ (configure.patch.cross texinfo.conf): * texinfo cross: change configure instead of configure.ac to avoid libtool dependency 18:01 < mnemoc_> mtr: :D 18:03 < mtr> texinfo fix commited ... 18:04 < rxr> sparc build continues we'll see 18:05 < mnemoc_> rxr: tell me when should i merge 18:05 < mnemoc_> please :) 18:05 < rxr> the sparc changes or what ? 18:05 < mnemoc_> texinfo 18:06 < rxr> ah - yep 18:06 < mnemoc_> how much change sparc64 will do to non sparc64 and non 64 archs? 18:10 < rxr> well 18:10 < rxr> some - one quite intrusive 18:11 < rxr> but it is also needed to fix a real grave bug - also affecting any 32/64bit biarch system ... 18:11 < rxr> but when we have build it a few time it should be tested well enough 18:11 < rxr> I already regression test it anf fixed the first obvious issues ... 18:12 < mnemoc_> should i merge something to rc1 to preserve 'branch stability'? 18:12 < mnemoc_> between rc2 and rc1 18:13 < rxr> well - it should be ready today 18:14 < rxr> merge - let's build it a somewhere tag ,-) 18:15 < mnemoc_> 'a somewhere tag'? :\ 18:15 < rxr> s/where tag/where, tag/ 18:15 < mnemoc_> ok 18:21 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 18:26 -!- mtr_ [~Michael@p54AFAC6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 18:29 < mnemoc> mtr_: you removed the patch you published :( 18:31 < mnemoc> mtr_: found the newone, thanks 18:34 < rxr> http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ie6 18:34 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AF9B18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:35 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks! 18:37 < rxr> ? 18:38 < mnemoc> most new win32 apps need ie dlls 18:39 < mnemoc> and instructions to install ie6 on winhq are messy and outdated 18:40 < mnemoc> i have XP at home just to run ms project and visio.... i hope i can install/run them on wine if i install ie6 18:40 < rxr> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html 18:41 < rxr> Q: Setup crashes during installation! A: Installation of Internet Explorer fails with wine 200502* 200503* 200504*. We recommend wine 200412* for installation. Once you have finished installing Internet Explorer, you can try newer wine :-) Let's have a look at ~/.wine/sidenet/wcs.log and find out what caused the crash. 18:42 < mnemoc> uhm 18:42 < mnemoc> downdate? 18:43 < mnemoc> nah 18:43 < rxr> Q: Wine get's really unstable when compiled with CFLAGS="-O4 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math etc..." A: Use dafault optimization option ("-O2"). 18:44 < mnemoc> .oO 18:44 < sepp> hello 18:44 < mnemoc> hi sepp 18:44 < rxr> guess the Q: is I use Gentoo and wine is unstable ... ,-) Who else does try non-existing -O4 ... 18:44 < sepp> hi mnemoc, rxr 18:45 < mnemoc> hehe 18:45 < sepp> like mplayer 18:46 < sepp> -O4 ... 18:52 < rxr> yes - some freaky bash script is downloading windows IE and throwing it into wine - /me curious if it works thereafter ... 18:54 < rxr> Setting up Internet Explorer 6 ... 18:55 < rxr> 39 0x777f7e6b DialogBoxIndirectParamA+0x2b in user32 (0x77a7fa30) 18:55 < rxr> 40 0x7773232f PROPSHEET_CreateDialog+0x18f in comctl32 (0x77a7fa60) 18:55 < rxr> 41 0x77734ff1 PropertySheetA+0x2d1 in comctl32 (0x77a7fa8c) 18:55 < rxr> fixme:dbghelp:sffip_cb NIY on 'ie6wzdex.pdb' 18:55 < rxr> 42 0x0101bdd9 in ie6wzd (+0x1bdd9) (0x77a7fb1c) 18:55 < rxr> 43 0x0101bfa3 in ie6wzd (+0x1bfa3) (0x80000002) 18:55 < rxr> 44 0x00900100 (0x00000100) 18:55 < rxr> 45 0x00000000 (0x00000000) 18:55 < rxr> 0xb7ecc441 kill+0x11 in libc.so.6: movl %edx,%ebx 18:55 < rxr> ouhm 18:56 < rxr> I seem to hit: 18:56 < rxr> Q: Setup crashes during installation! A: Installation of Internet Explorer fails with wine 200502* 200503* 200504*. We recommend wine 200412* for installation. Once you have finished installing Internet Explorer, you can try newer wine :-) 18:56 < CIA-7> amery * r9545 /branches/2.1/package/kde/kde-i18n-bg/ (. kde-i18n-bg.cache kde-i18n-bg.conf kde-i18n-bg.desc): * merged 8916,8917 from trunk: added kde-i18n-bg (3.4.0) 18:57 < mnemoc> rxr: is it downloading ie6 on english or german? 18:58 < rxr> I think it is from a japanese or so person - so you better ask is it downloading .jp or .en ... 18:59 < rxr> in fact it asks on shell script invocation - but no idea what version it grabed ... 19:00 < rxr> this FAQ is cool: 19:00 < rxr> Q: I have wine 2001xxxx and ... A: Please use wine >=200407* 19:00 * mnemoc going for food 19:00 < mnemoc> :) 19:00 < mnemoc> we need a FAQ like that :p 19:00 < mnemoc> cu 19:01 < rxr> Q: I have ROCK x.y and ... A: Pleace update to T2 >= 2.1 ,-) ? 19:01 < mipe> :) 19:02 < rxr> or my SPARC build does stop with lots of erros when building tools ... A: Please fix your system compiler or grab a prebuilt T2 ... 19:03 < rxr> yeah - FAQs are cool 19:03 < rxr> Q: I get a build error and ... A: Yeah - please fix it and send the patch in. ,-) 19:20 < _Ragnar_> moin 19:25 < rxr> moin rxr 19:25 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_ 19:28 < rxr> with the older wine IE installer indeed start ... :-( 19:28 < rxr> tough no text ... 19:40 < rxr> ouhm IE installing in wine ... 19:40 < rxr> interesting ... 19:42 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/ie-installing-t2.png 20:02 -!- mipe [~who@l243.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 20:06 < mnemoc> re 20:08 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/ie-installing-t2.png 20:10 < mnemoc> should i download wine to 20041019 on 2.1? 20:10 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 20:10 < jeru> re hi 20:10 < mnemoc> until 'they' support a newer one? 20:10 < mnemoc> hi jeru 20:11 < jeru> mnemoc: have you seen the regression report for 2.1 bootdisk I started ? ;) 20:12 < mnemoc> mine build almost flawless 20:12 < mnemoc> i had to rebuild 5-glibc 20:12 < mnemoc> weird 20:13 < mnemoc> jeru: was yours straight forward? 20:14 < jeru> mnemoc: yes 20:14 -!- jeru_ [~Jah@196.200.95.77] has joined #t2 20:14 < jeru_> lu 20:14 < mnemoc> uhm 20:14 < jeru> uhm? who is that jeru_ ? 20:14 < jeru_> I am me 20:15 < jeru_> I am a man 20:15 < jeru_> :) 20:15 < mnemoc> isn't jeru man also? 20:15 < jeru> mnemoc: of course I am ;) 20:15 < mnemoc> so, jeru == jeru_ 20:15 < jeru> nah! 20:17 < jeru_> non 20:17 < jeru_> it's another person 20:17 < mnemoc> anyway, jeru2... what brings you here? 20:18 < jeru> no I'm a bit confused ... but btw, how you doing jeru_ ? 20:18 < jeru_> hmm 20:18 < jeru_> I would like change my nick to jeru 20:18 < jeru_> also jerusalem 20:18 < jeru_> And i see jeru is always pri 20:18 < jeru_> so it's no important 20:18 < jeru_> just say hello to you 20:18 < jeru_> I must so 20:18 < jeru> hello jeru_ 20:19 < jeru_> se you later 20:19 < jeru_> ++ 20:19 < jeru_> so = go 20:19 < jeru_> salut jeru :) 20:19 < jeru_> je re ce soir 20:19 < jeru_> I come back tonight 20:19 < mnemoc> 'tonight' is very subjective 20:19 < jeru_> in few hours 20:19 < jeru> jeru_: c'est ne pas un problem 20:20 < jeru_> héhé :) 20:20 < jeru_> +++ 20:20 -!- jeru_ [~Jah@196.200.95.77] has quit [] 20:21 < jeru> hmmm ? strange things happening here ... :) 20:21 < CIA-7> amery * r9546 /branches/2.1/package/java/sun-jre-150/mime-type-remove.diff: * changed sun-{jre,jdk}-150 to not install gnome registry stuff, then they wont share those files. (dumb but works) 20:21 < jeru> .oO( should I change my nick ?)o 20:23 < mnemoc> do you have it registered? 20:23 < jeru> mnemoc: no 20:23 < jeru> mnemoc: is your name registered 20:23 < mnemoc> sure 20:23 < jeru> mnemoc: why sure ? 20:24 < mnemoc> it's mandatory considering my nick is my only identity 20:26 < CIA-7> amery * r9547 /branches/2.1/target/desktop/config.in: * merged 8934 from trunk: added tcp_wrappers package because portmap needs it 20:27 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/ie.png 20:28 < mnemoc> rxr: using the script of following the instructions? 20:28 < rxr> mixed the script and instructinos and lot of trial and error 20:29 < mnemoc> rxr: should i download wine to 20041019 on 2.1? (version recommended at http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/ ) 20:30 < mnemoc> downdate* 20:30 < CIA-7> amery * r9548 /branches/2.1/package/x11/afterstep/afterstep.desc: * merged 8936 from trunk: updated afterstep (2.00.04 -> 2.1.0) 20:36 < mnemoc> rxr: did texinfo patch solved the problem? 20:36 < rxr> yes - but there still is another ... 20:36 < rxr> maybe just do not update texinfo in 2.1 20:36 < rxr> if you have revert the update ... 20:36 < rxr> I would not revert wine 20:37 < rxr> note in a minute 20:38 < mnemoc> i have texinfo 4.7 20:39 < mnemoc> so i don't need to patch? 20:40 -!- jeru is now known as morfoh 20:40 < rxr> ? 20:41 < rxr> mnemoc: I don't know we haev 4.8 - that has the problem 20:41 < rxr> I know a previous version is not affected but I do not remeber if it was 4.6 or 4.7 20:41 < mnemoc> ok 20:41 < rxr> maybe just wait if someone hits it ... 20:42 < rxr> regarding wine 20:42 < rxr> the old version does crash on naturally speaking setup ... 20:42 < rxr> I'm rebuilding wine 20050419 again .. 20:42 < mnemoc> :\ 20:42 < mnemoc> big dilema 20:43 < rxr> yeah - seems 2004 install - and update 20:43 < rxr> and then regularly make ~/.wine ~/c snapshots to restore from ,-) 20:43 < rxr> I already asked on the wine list - maybe we get some answer 20:44 < rxr> hm - didn't I commit 20050524 before 20:44 < rxr> damn - /me updating again .. 20:47 < CIA-7> rene * r9549 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (20050419 -> 20050524) 21:11 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9550 /trunk/package/graphic/xchm/xchm.desc: * updated xchm (0.9.8 -> 1.0) 21:25 < mnemoc> paragui also depends on swig.... 21:27 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9551 /trunk/package/graphic/hugin/hugin.desc: * updated hugin (0.5-beta4 -> 0.5_rc1) 21:34 < mnemoc> rxr: is 9529 the first sparc64 commit? 21:35 < mnemoc> rxr: i couldn't find the start point for merging those commits 21:35 < mnemoc> those revisions* 21:35 < rxr> mnemoc: don't merge yet 21:35 < rxr> there are a few changes left 21:35 < rxr> better not start pulling them until all is polished 21:35 < rxr> maybe tag -rc1 without those 21:36 < mnemoc> ok, i'll test swig update and tag 22:05 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9552 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/fluxbox.desc: * updated fluxbox (0.9.12 -> 0.9.13) 22:09 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9553 /trunk/package/graphic/pixie/ (location.patch pixie.desc): * updated pixie (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2) 22:09 -!- netrunne1 [~andreas@p54982C6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:12 -!- netrunner [~andreas@p54982C84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:12 -!- netrunne1 is now known as netrunner 22:15 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9554 /trunk/package/network/libotr/libotr.desc: * updated libotr (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2) 22:15 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9555 /trunk/package/network/gaim-otr/gaim-otr.desc: * updated gaim-otr (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2) 22:21 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9556 /trunk/package/graphic/sharpconstruct/sharpconstruct.desc: * updated sharpconstruct (0.0.7 -> 0.0.8) 22:37 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9557 /trunk/package/network/webmin/webmin.desc: * updated webmin (1.180 -> 1.210) 22:48 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9558 /trunk/package/develop/hte/hte.desc: * updated hte (0.8.0 -> 0.9.0) 22:50 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-207-250.prtc.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:01 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9559 /trunk/package/graphic/cinepaint/cinepaint.desc: * updated cinepaint (0.19-0 -> 0.19-1) 23:33 < rxr> what the h*ll 23:33 < rxr> these days it is possible to run autocad 14 in wine? 23:33 < rxr> http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=acad14 23:35 < morfoh> rxr: I can't remember what the problem was regarding following compile error from fgetty 23:35 < morfoh> gcc -o login login.o ltostr.o -s -lcrypt 23:35 < morfoh> login.o(.text+0x366): In function `main': 23:35 < morfoh> login.c: undefined reference to `strlcpy' 23:35 < morfoh> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 23:35 < morfoh> make: *** [login] Error 1 23:35 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9560 /trunk/package/scientific/maxima/maxima.cache: * fixed the maxima.cache to use gcl, not the 99% not working clisp 23:38 < morfoh> rxr: we had this fgetty problem before, but I don't know how we handled it 23:40 < CIA-7> sebastian * r9561 /trunk/package/scientific/wxmaxima/wxmaxima.desc: * updated wxmaxima (0.6.0 -> 0.6.1) 23:47 < rxr> morfoh: hm 23:47 * rxr neither 23:48 < rxr> what is your build uclibc only or dietlibc? 23:48 < rxr> the big libowfat bug was fixed 23:48 < morfoh> rxr: no, it's glibc + dietlibc 23:48 < morfoh> rxr: libowfat was build 23:49 < sepp> whois morfoh ? 23:50 < morfoh> sepp: me ;) 23:50 < sepp> lol 23:50 < morfoh> sepp: know you know .... ;) 23:51 < rxr> ehrm - AutoCAD is indeed running in wine now ... 23:51 < rxr> unbelievable ... 23:51 < morfoh> rxr: :) 23:51 < sepp> morfoh: hum what you know that i know? 23:52 < morfoh> sepp: I know you made some logos for t2 ;) 23:53 < sepp> iirc i know who i am 23:53 < sepp> lol 23:54 < morfoh> sepp: I really hope that you know who you are :) 23:55 < sepp> :) 23:55 < sepp> i do 23:57 < morfoh> sepp: good :) 23:58 < morfoh> rxr: was fgetty build in trunk with the recent version of dietlibc ... I'm using 0.28 from 2.1 23:58 < morfoh> version of dietlibc I mean --- Log closed Thu Jun 09 00:00:58 2005