T2 IRC Log: 2005-05-24

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--- Log opened Tue May 24 00:00:52 2005
00:06 < rxr> ok - grub should be final now ...
00:06 < _Lewellyn> is it a large patch?
00:06 < _Lewellyn> can it be sent upstream? :)
00:06 < rxr> nope
00:07 * _Lewellyn likes this background image thing
00:07 < rxr> nah - I just disable the stuff ...
00:07 < rxr> they will never keep it
00:07 < rxr> especially since grub 0.9 is feature frozen
00:07 < rxr> they work on grub2 since ages ...
00:07 < _Lewellyn> why doesn't t2 use grub2 then?
00:08 < rxr> grub2 will be cross platform - the inital release at least x86 and powerpc (replacing yaboot) maybe even sparc (thus obsoleting the silo /crap/)
00:08 < rxr> because grub2 is like hurd - ongoing work ,-)
00:08 < rxr> noone except very brave people try grub2 right now ...
00:09 < _Lewellyn> but they aren't changing 0.9. sounds like linux! :)
00:09 < _Lewellyn> (low blow, sorry)
00:09 < rxr> there are 0.9 releases every half a year os ro - but only fixing bugs
00:10 < rxr> like memory corruption, fixes for new crappy BIOSes and such
00:10 < rxr> sttricly no new features - this is why the bootsplash stuff never made it into official grub over the _last years_
00:10 < _Lewellyn> lame
00:10 < _Lewellyn> why do people use grub over lilo if grub's fairly stagnant?
00:11 < rxr> do you know the difference ?
00:11 < rxr> they are both fairly different technology
00:11 < _Lewellyn> no. which is why i've not moved from lilo
00:11 < rxr> grub can read filesystems on-th-fly and has dynamic editing
00:11 < rxr> lilo keeps this staic block list - and dumply loads those blocks into memroy
00:12 < rxr> that is why you need to rerun lilo in your linux everytime you move, change the file
00:12 < _Lewellyn> i see no issue with that, myself
00:12 < rxr> and grub can nearly load anything - lilo is mostly linux only ...
00:13 < rxr> if lilo is fine for you I'll not stop you using it ,-)
00:17 < _Lewellyn> does grub load freebsd?
00:17 < rxr> yep
00:18 < rxr> and multi boot specification stuff - like e.g. also needed for this Xen virtualizer
00:18 < _Lewellyn> hm. why did no one suggest it when i was looking to dual-boot dos and freebsd, i wonder?
00:18 < rxr> no idea ...
00:18 < _Lewellyn> oh ya. the scsi controller had no bios, so i couldn't use a boot loader.
00:20 < rxr> aha
00:21 < rxr> ouhm - what a bad subversion 1.2.0 summary on freshmeat:
00:21 < rxr> "A number of feature enhancements, the most notable of which is support for locking."
00:32 < kgb> support for locking?
00:34 < _Lewellyn> oh ya, subversion is based off webdav, isn't it?
00:34 < rxr> webdav is only one protocol available - you can also use a properitry wire protocol svn:// if you like ...
00:38 < kgb> does svnserv support hashed passwords these days?
00:41 < rxr> no idea
00:41 < rxr> I do not hand out write access via svn://
00:41 < rxr> I only want one ACL
00:41 < valentin> re
00:43 < rxr> hi valentin
00:44 < rxr> valentin: have you seen my grub hack?
00:44 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/live-splash.png
00:45 < valentin> yep
00:45 < kgb> looks nice
00:46 < rxr> ok - full ISO avail via rsync
00:47 < rxr> I like it way better without the ugly border lines ...
00:52 * _Lewellyn wonders if he still has the rsync commandline in his commandline history
00:53 < rxr> C^R is your friend ;-) ?
00:54 < _Lewellyn> or grep ~/.sh_history
00:54 < _Lewellyn> :)
00:55 < valentin> rxr: can i rsync from your box or take the official verion ?
00:57 < rxr> you can rsync ...
00:58 < rxr> whta did I fix?
00:58 < rxr> I already forgot half of it hacking so much ...
00:58 < valentin> at least the bootsplash .. *g*
00:59 < valentin> rxr: there will be a gez for internet users in 2007
00:59 < rxr> I'll refuse to pay
01:00 < rxr> I kick all new ages boxse out and surf with the SPARC Station @40Mhz
01:00 < _Lewellyn> gez?
01:00 < rxr> _Lewellyn: some german crap
01:00 -!- Postal [~edinatux1@ool-435627d0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2
01:00 < _Lewellyn> h
01:00 < Postal> Hey all
01:00 < _Lewellyn> oh even
01:01 < Postal> rene, you around?
01:01 < rxr> yes
01:01 < rxr> but not much longer ...
01:01 < valentin> _Lewellyn: here in germany we have to pay if we hold some receivers for tv or radio
01:01 < Postal> is the new iso with the sata up yet?
01:01 < rxr> yes -beta2
01:01 < Postal> awsome
01:01 < rxr> but -beta3 is ready right now
01:01 < _Lewellyn> valentin: are you free to do what you want with the received broadcasts, though?
01:01 < Postal> well beta3 sounds better than 2
01:01 < rxr> including more w-lan driver, fixed VIA graphic support and a grub graphic theme ...
01:02 < Postal> is beta3 up
01:02 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/stable/2.2.0-beta
01:02 < Postal> its quite slow :(
01:03 < Postal> rxr, what should a partition scheme look like for something like this...
01:03 < Postal> cause i want to cross compile
01:03 < rxr> a8bb04749715b0a78b7baf48a689a5d8 ../../stable/2.2.0-beta/t2-live-2.2.0-beta3.iso
01:04 < Postal> ...?
01:04 < rxr> md5sum
01:04 < Postal> oh
01:04 < Postal> it will be 61min before i need that
01:04 < valentin> _Lewellyn: this has nothing to do with copyrights
01:04 < rxr> Avg: 1506.88 kBit/s
01:05 < rxr> ^- current gsmp outgoing
01:05 < valentin> we have some "official" governmental tv broadcasters here. We have to pay for them
01:05 < Postal> well im only seeing 147 of them
01:05 < valentin> they claim a pc can be used to watch their shows, too - but that is pure bullsh*t
01:06 < _Lewellyn> valentin: oh. so it's not like us and our "broadcast flag". it's a true taxation issue.
01:06 < Postal> if i could have 400 or so of them, that would be better
01:07 < _Lewellyn> rxr: only 2 megs difference this time?
01:08 < valentin> _Lewellyn: the reason for this tax is to have a commercially independend tv / radio. but those broadcasters fail to fullfill their mission and send commercials and other crap all the day
01:08 < valentin> and they throw our money out of the window
01:08 < valentin> the biggest two gov. broadcasters "earn" taxes around $8.000.000
01:09 < _Lewellyn> valentin: you ever been to the usa?
01:09 < valentin> nope - though i have some friends over there
01:09 < _Lewellyn> i'm curious how close your "commercials and other crap" is to our most popular stations :(
01:09 * _Lewellyn feels that all they have is crap, crap, and more crap
01:09 < rxr> _Lewellyn: that might be
01:10 < _Lewellyn> of course, most of our music is crap to start with and we are enamored with advertising here.
01:10 < valentin> i am not saying that our ARD and ZDF is crap only, but they eat up more money than all other big commercial stations earn by commercial breaks !
01:10 < Postal> rxr, what kind of partition scheme do i want to set up for the cross compile?
01:10 < valentin> and now they even want internet users to pay a full tv tax
01:11 < rxr> Postal: not really s.th. special
01:11 < rxr> I need to take sleep now - maybe valentin can help out ...
01:11 < Postal> ok rxr, ttyl
01:12 < rxr> 51.48 GB on gsmp today
01:12 < rxr> 649.89 GB this year
01:12 < rxr> 251.71 GB this month
01:13 < _Lewellyn> rxr: sleep well.
01:13 < _Lewellyn> live cd is booting into x in vmware now
01:13 < valentin> Postal: just make sure you have enough space on the fs you are building
01:14 < valentin> rxr: gn8
01:16 < rxr> valentin: with the broad certified hardware list, booting on a random sytem stats to be come quite unlinkely to fail ...
01:17 < valentin> rxr: i could ask ronald to test the cd
01:17 < valentin> and i could boot it on some systems at work on wednesday
01:19 < rxr> Postal: if you could write later on if SATA worked ...
01:19 < rxr> _Lewellyn: have fun testing ,-)
01:19 < rxr> n8 all
01:23 < _Lewellyn> Postal: i'd be initerested in your sata results, too, before i burn a physical cd :)
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01:25 < keinek> hi
01:26 < _Lewellyn> hoi
01:27 < kgb> keinek: hi
01:55 < _Lewellyn> rxr: just a heads up, since i don't have time to look at it deeply... the pcnet32 works in vmware now :)
01:55 < _Lewellyn> rxr: i'll look at the rest of the functionality as time permits.
02:00 < _Lewellyn> rxr: though i did notice that my floppy drive shows up as: "Hard Disk (floppy/0)"
02:37 < Postal> rxr, i will test it this evening, though, i have to finish my Cell Bio final presentation tonight... so
02:50 < kgb> valentin: do you have something writen on "SDE advocacy"?
03:00 < valentin> kgb: ?
03:01 < kgb> valentin: do you have something written on "why to use an SDE"?
03:02 < valentin> not realy except the stuff in our marketing paper and the few lines in the wiki i added months ago
03:03 < kgb> do you know if rene has something?
03:03 < valentin> nope
03:04 < valentin> why ?
03:04 < valentin> i think the answer to "what is an SDE" implies "when to use an SDE"
03:06 < kgb> i was looking for something more agressive
03:09 < kgb> i was thinking in writing something like "customizing distributions considered harmful"
03:10 < valentin> be carefull not to sound like those gentoo funrolloopers
03:10 < _Lewellyn> valentin: that's the other end of the spectrum ;)
03:11 < kgb> valentin: gentoo is harmful too :)
03:12 < kgb> valentin: but yes, i'll be carefull
03:12 < valentin> i did not want to generalize this for all g* users
03:13 < valentin> just those kiddies in every forum telling stories about their 200% faster -O6 -funroll-loop 'ed systems LOL
03:15 < valentin> i will lay down for sleep soon
03:15 < valentin> kgb: what happened to mnemoc ?
03:16 < kgb> it's powered off
03:16 < kgb> until tomorrow
03:16 < valentin> powered off ? so i had been talking to mnemoc-bot all the time ?
03:17 < kgb> i'm more focused on maintainance than ultra-performance
03:17 < valentin> :)
03:17 < kgb> valentin: nah.... mnemoc is on my irssi at shell box
03:18 < valentin> i thought mnemoc is a human beeing and not some virtual whatever ,)
03:18 < _Lewellyn> kgb is the one who watches over mnemoc :)
03:18 < kgb> and acx100 (wifi) i used on my laptop got roasted after a classmate started obsutrctuing it
03:18 < kgb> _Lewellyn: :)
03:19 < kgb> he replaced it with an acx111
03:19 < kgb> but acx111 drivers doesn't load firmware properly
03:19 < kgb> so i can't connect via wifi from linux
03:20 < kgb> kgb is the username used by /me at windows+chatzilla :'(
03:24 -!- keinek is now known as mnemoc
03:24 < mnemoc> hi i mnemoc bla bla bla
03:24 -!- mnemoc is now known as keinek
03:24 < keinek> :)
03:24 < keinek> just a test ;)
03:25 < keinek> Nickserv kick only if the right user log with the pass?
03:25 < valentin> yep
03:25 < keinek> Mmmm this is dangerous.
03:25 < valentin> otherwise anyone could ghost everyone
03:26 < kgb> :)
03:26 < keinek> i thinks that kgb now is in a vacation.
03:27 < keinek> be mnemoc is hard.
03:27 < keinek> lots of questions.
03:27 < keinek> :D
03:27 < kgb> mnemoc doesn't have vacations
03:27 < keinek> right.
03:27 < keinek> "HEY EVERYBODY, MNEMOC IS HERE!!!!"
03:28 < keinek> :)
03:28 < keinek> t2 work fine.
03:28 < keinek> the server work best than debian.
03:28 < keinek> the mldonkey work better.
03:33 < _Lewellyn> kgb: you played with the latest livecd yet?
03:34 < kgb> r10.... i can't download it here
03:38 < _Lewellyn> :(
03:38 < kgb> why?
03:42 < _Lewellyn> didn't rene add more wifi stuff?
03:49 < kgb> ipw2200 iirc
04:02 < _Lewellyn> just that? :(
04:04 < kgb> i added acx100 long time ago
04:04 < kgb> i don't know why my firmware doesn't load for this specific card
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08:57 < mtr> moin moin
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10:05 < jeru> moin
10:06 < jeru> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html <- doesn't look bad atm
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10:26 < jeru> moin sepp :)
10:27 < sepp_> moin jeru :)
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10:27 < jeru> sepp_: btw, nice grub bootsplash ;)
10:29 < rxr> re
10:31 < jeru> ahh ... hi rxr :)
10:32 < jeru> rxr: btw, you should have mail ;)
10:32 < valentin> moin
10:33 < rxr> hi valentin
10:34 < jeru> hi valentin
10:34 < valentin> rxr: my uncle could have a job for you
10:34 < valentin> he will call you
10:46 < rxr> he has
10:47 < valentin> but it is not linux related
10:51 < rxr> i heared
11:51 < SerWou> just back from my printer friend who printed for me the t2 handbook, gonna read this to start ;) ;)
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12:19 < valentin> http://www.colawp.com/colas/400/cola467_recipe.html
12:20 < valentin> a cola recipe licensed under the gpl :D
12:21 < valentin> hm, where can i buy the caffeine ?
13:06 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0505/38218.html
13:13 < valentin> what is the difference between xdelta and vdelta ?
13:13 < rxr> no idea ,-)
13:13 < rxr> (pasted from the release node ,-)
13:14 < rxr> they claim it is faster for their use-case
13:14 < rxr> I believe them
13:14 < valentin> maybe they removed a debug sleep(1) here and there ...
13:15 < rxr> I doubt
13:16 < rxr> the subversion people seem to do quite mature programming
13:16 < rxr> in contrast to e.g. d-bus / hal or gnome folks ...
13:17 < rxr> What's New in Subversion 1.2
13:17 < rxr> FSFS repository back end is now the default
13:17 < rxr> oh
13:17 < jeru> oh ... if you wanna do gnome stuff -> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html
13:18 < jeru> ;)
13:18 < jeru> i.e. fixing nautilus ? ... evil g
13:18 < jeru> checking for libnautilus... configure: error: you need nautilus development packages installed !
13:19 < jeru> rxr: do you know where this libnautilus comes from ?
13:19 < jeru> part of eel ?
13:19 < rxr> Faster access to old revisions due to xdelta compression (server)
13:19 < rxr> The repository is now using the xdelta differencing algorithm (instead of vdelta) to store compressed difference data. When you upgrade to Subversion 1.2, existing repositories will continue to work fine; the revision history will simply be a mixture of xdelta and vdelta differences.
13:19 < rxr> The xdelta algorithm is much faster at reconstructing older files, and thus there's motivation to dump and reload your existing repository. If you do this, you forcibly re-compress all repository history using the xdelta algorithm, resulting in a noticeable speedup in operations that ask the server to reconstruct older data: svn blame, svn checkout, svn update, svn diff, svn merge, and so on. Even dumping the repository will be faster.
13:19 < rxr> Note: There's a small trade off between speed and disk space. If you choose to re-deltify your whole repository using xdelta, its size will grow by roughly 10 to 15 percent.
13:20 < rxr> jeru: isn't libnautilus in nautilus ?
13:21 < jeru> rxr: I don't know ... I'm less a "gnome" than you ;)
13:21 * jeru hides
13:21 < jeru> rxr: but configure complains about it
13:23 < rxr> grep flist does not yield reasonable matches
13:23 < jeru> oh ... I can't read anymore ... the failure was from nautilus-media
13:24 < rxr> var/adm/flists/nautilus:nautilus: opt/gnome2/lib/libnautilus-private.so
13:24 < rxr> var/adm/flists/nautilus:nautilus: opt/gnome2/lib/libnautilus-extension.so
13:24 < rxr> oh - damn - how got it 13.xx ... ?
13:25 < jeru> rxr: ?
13:37 < rxr> late ...
13:39 < jeru> ah ... ic
13:43 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.211.38.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
13:43 < sepp> hi
13:44 < rxr> sepp: my girlfriend kind of dislikes the logo tarball ...
13:44 < jeru> hi sepp
13:44 < rxr> seems we need s.th. else :-(
13:46 < jeru> rxr: what happens here ? your girlfriend dislikes sth. and we've to change it .... ? ;)
13:46 < sepp> hehe
13:46 < jeru> rxr: what's the problem with logo ?
13:47 < sepp> for the live hardware list: ESS ES1968 Maestro 2, nVidia Quadro FX 1000 works
13:50 < rxr> sepp: no real idea
13:50 < rxr> it has too less "aussage"
13:50 < sepp> the logo?
13:51 < rxr> and does not look attractive to hear
13:51 < rxr> her
13:51 < valentin> *lunch*
13:51 < rxr> no real idea
13:51 < rxr> cu valentin
13:51 * rxr breakfast
13:51 < valentin> rxr: what about the puzzle you had before ? besides there were gnomes in it ?
13:52 < jeru> some builds on the ref build failed because of shared files with other packages i.e. kaffeine + kaxtv
13:55 < rxr> ah - yes I like the puzzle pieces
13:56 < rxr> they resemble that T2 is build up and can be build out of so many componenets, puzzle pieces
14:01 < jeru> wasn't valentin a little puzzle maniac too ?
14:02 < jeru> do we have a picture from that t2 puzzle picture ?
14:02 < rxr> ouhm - next mac driver issue ...
14:02 < rxr> ouhm - seem to be come osx days today and tomorrow ...
14:03 < rxr> libtool: install: error: cannot install `_core.la' to a directory not ending in
14:03 < rxr> /usr/lib/svn-python/libsvn
14:03 < rxr> hm
14:03 < rxr> k# svn --version
14:03 < rxr> svn, version 1.2.0 (r14790)
14:05 < jeru> rxr: do you have updated to svn 1.2 ?
14:06 < jeru> I read about some problems regarding svn 1.2 and its python bindings
14:09 < rxr> looks so ...
14:10 < CIA-9> chris * r9105 /trunk/package/develop/clearsilver/ (clearsilver.desc zlib-Makefile.patch):
14:10 < CIA-9> * updated clearsilver (0.9.13 -> 0.9.14)
14:10 < CIA-9> * removed zlib-Makefile.patch, not needed anymore
14:10 < jeru> rxr: nowI remember ... the trac people have an open issue regarding svn 1.2 + python
14:36 < rxr> Sun lashes out at open source J2SE
14:37 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10659
14:43 < rxr> me phoning the GEZ to coplain aobut internet taxes
14:43 < valentin> hm - i think gez ppl will not help you
14:44 < valentin> we have to stop this law - if you want to do something, you have to contact your MdP
14:48 < rxr> isn't the gez making this stuff up on its own ?
14:48 < sepp> no
14:48 < valentin> the gez is just the "behoerde"
14:48 < valentin> the law was initiated by the broadcasters
14:49 < valentin> if there will be this law, then we all have to pay, so the only possibility is to stop that law
14:49 < sepp> the "prime ministers" decide about the amount of money they are allowed to waste
14:49 < rxr> The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.spiege.de/
14:49 < rxr> The following error was encountered: Access Denied. Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect.
14:49 < rxr> Your cache administrator is webmaster@spiegel.de.
14:50 < rxr> oh - forgot a l ...
14:51 < valentin> the most embarrassing thing is that you have to pay two full gez tax when you have a private tv and a pc in your office
14:53 < rxr> I do not hand them any more cent than what I pay for radio now ...
14:54 < rxr> and most of my radio is consumed by listenint to a france mp3 stream I have to pay for myself ...
14:54 < rxr> so - someone will call me back tomorrow morning ...
14:55 < jeru> rxr: good luck
14:55 < rxr> and if we all call our mp
14:55 < jeru> mp ?
14:55 < rxr> it can not be that we have to pay for having internet connection
14:55 < rxr> call / write whatever
14:56 < jeru> military police ?
14:56 < rxr> MdP
14:56 < rxr> jeru: yeah
14:56 < rxr> those too - could bomb away those broadcast machinery
14:56 < jeru> btw,
14:56 < jeru> why we don't have version.h in /usr/include
14:57 < rxr> what should it contain ?
14:57 < jeru> I don't know ... but I have to play with gfs the next weeks at work
14:58 < jeru> and they have a configure script which wants to have versions.h
14:58 < jeru> version.h
14:58 < sepp> that changed with 2.6.11 iirc
14:58 < rxr> maybe /usr/include/linux/version.h ?
14:58 < valentin> a telepolis author had a good idea: private broadcasting stations do not have to pay gez for their tvs and pcs because this would be unfair challenge. now according to ARD and ZDF internet content is broadcasting too - so every website user should claim to be a private broadcaster
14:59 < rxr> valentin: cool
14:59 < jeru> we could broadcast T2 news
14:59 < rxr> ok - let's become a private ramdon midi generated mp3 broadcast for berlin
14:59 < jeru> ok
15:00 < rxr> jeru: but if it is a kernel module it must be build postlinux anyway
15:00 < jeru> yeah ... I know. I just want to get a "feeling" how it's build anyway ;)
15:06 < jeru> rxr: have you ever played around with kdbl ? It seems to be a dependency for building gfs
15:07 < jeru> I mean the gfs kernel module
15:08 < rxr> no
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15:32 < rxr> valentin: we nee the network gui
15:32 < rxr> they just called ...
15:33 < rxr> wanted to go internet ...
15:33 < rxr> well - ...
15:35 < valentin> this will be a long night then
15:35 < rxr> well - relax and make sure it works the day after tomorrow ...
15:35 < rxr> I'm exhauted - no need to push this out tomorrow
15:36 < rxr> I nede to do osx first anyweay
15:36 < valentin> day after tomorrow ,)
15:37 < valentin> rxr: but except the ppp error part and dynamic dhcp status display i should finish most stuff today so we can do some testing tomorow
15:38 < rxr> ok
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15:44 < keinek> hi
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15:47 < Postal> Hello all
15:48 < rxr> hi postal
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15:52 < Postal> this cell bio project is killing me
15:54 < rxr> Postal: you should never raise cells that kill you ...
15:54 < rxr> I hope we do not yet need to notiy homeland security ...
15:54 < rxr> IT: Virus Hold Computer Files 'Hostage' for $200
15:55 < rxr> ...
15:55 < rxr> Layoffs at OSDL
15:55 < rxr> ... It will establish a European office and expand into Asia. ...
15:55 < rxr> valentin: maybe we should apply for a european OSDL office *g*
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16:00 < CIA-9> rene * r9106 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/ (subversion.conf subversion.desc):
16:00 < CIA-9> * updated subversion (1.1.4 -> 1.2.0) - fixed python binding
16:00 < CIA-9> installation by disabling PYTHON_SITE hacks
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16:08 < sepp> have to replace some hardware
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16:12 < jeru> rxr: does disabling PYTHON_SITE hacks means that there are no python bindings in the trunk version of svn anymore ?
16:13 -!- |mipe| is now known as mipe
16:14 < mipe> its bloody hard to come up an idea for gradu work
16:14 < mipe> err thats thesis
16:16 < jeru> rxr: ahh ... I see what you've done regarding the python bindings ... Afaics, I can fix it this evening.
16:17 < mipe> rxr: about the gccc & dietlibc on amd64, how do you want to proceed? keep the updated version of dietlibc?
16:21 < rxr> mipe: I would like to - best would be to find out what code change made gcc ICE ...
16:21 < rxr> go work around it in some way ..
16:22 < rxr> you could also work with a locally downdated version until we find a fix
16:26 < rxr> quite some people come to the t2 site via http://www.stumbleupon.com/
16:32 < jeru> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg ref
16:32 < jeru> Error logs from ref-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium4-reference:
16:32 < jeru> [5] java/classpath [5] java/kaffe
16:32 < jeru> [5] mail/spamassassin [5] gnome2/balsa
16:32 < jeru> [5] gnome2/devilspie [5] multimedia/nvrec
16:32 < jeru> [5] x11-modular/xserver [5] multimedia/vls
16:32 < jeru> [5] multimedia/ggrab [5] gnome2/nautilus-media
16:32 < jeru> [5] multimedia/deva [5] gnome2/gdesklets
16:32 < jeru> [5] games/xarchon [5] games/xconq
16:32 < jeru> [5] develop/ocs [5] scientific/root
16:32 < jeru> [5] e17/e-utils [5] kde/kaffeine
16:32 < jeru> [5] network/tidy [5] graphic/libpano
16:32 < jeru> [5] graphic/hugin
16:32 < jeru> 1621 builds total, 1576 completed fine, 21 with errors.
16:32 < jeru> error logs can be viewed here -> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html
16:42 < jeru> ok ... have to move away now ... cu later
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16:49 * rxr getting some food - cu
16:52 < valentin> have to leave now for our breathing seminar
16:53 < valentin> cu
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17:04 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
17:04 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005]
17:04 [Users #t2]
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17:19 < rxr_> re
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17:25 < CIA-9> rene * r9107 /trunk/package/x86/grub/ (6 files):
17:25 < CIA-9> * added splash patch to grub and patched the menu border away
17:25 < CIA-9> (later on we might like to apply the later only to the desktop/live
17:25 < CIA-9> target and the former a SDECFG_ option ...)
17:26 < mnemoc> moin!
17:27 < rxr> oh my god
17:27 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2005/05/2017440208575.patch
17:28 < rxr> hi mnemoc !
17:29 < mnemoc> +gnome2_dirtree() <--- cool function
17:31 < rxr> I better do not elaborate on this patch
17:38 < mipe> in i386, what file contains F_SETLK64, unionfs is erroring because of this, need to patch linux-header i guess
17:39 < mnemoc> mipe: c'est la vie
17:44 < SerWou> si c'est la vie alors ;)
17:44 < mipe> mnemoc: ???
17:44 < mnemoc> :)
17:44 < mnemoc> that's life
17:45 < mnemoc> linux-headers need lot of sanitization to be usable
17:45 < SerWou> et voilà ;)
17:46 < rxr> /usr/include/bits/fcntl.h:
17:46 < mipe> mnemoc: yep,but this one was easy to fix, well these usually are...
17:46 < rxr> /usr/include/asm/fcntl.h
17:53 < mnemoc> minto!!!
18:05 < rxr> uh my god
18:05 < rxr> now Microsoft looses so much martked share that they invest into tv commercials ...
18:05 < rxr> just saw one between my enterprise entertainment ...
18:05 < rxr> my god ...
18:05 * rxr shoked
18:07 < Postal> rene, i am testing the beta3 livecd now
18:08 < Postal> the sata modules work, and were loaded at startup
18:08 < Postal> ;-)
18:09 < Postal> dhcp is not yet automatic, but my network card modules were loaded automaticly also
18:10 < Postal> this beta is MUCH better
18:10 < mnemoc> there are three different dhcp commands on rocknet
18:10 < mnemoc> dhcp, dhcpcd and udhcp
18:10 < mnemoc> which are you using?
18:11 < rxr> dhcp
18:11 < rxr> (normally)
18:11 < mnemoc> why?
18:11 < mnemoc> isc's come with fat dhcp server
18:11 < rxr> what do you use ?
18:12 < mnemoc> i use udhcp, but dhcpcd is more standard and light enough for desktop
18:12 < Postal> i usually use dhcpcd, this time i used dhclient
18:13 < rxr> mnemoc: then we should change the keywords accordingly
18:13 < rxr> dhcp should be the sane standard choice ..
18:13 < Postal> :)
18:13 < Postal> ill brb im going to get on irc on the live cd
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18:14 < mnemoc> by dhcp you mean 'isc' or a common statement for rocknet config?
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18:15 < Postal> Hey all
18:15 < mnemoc> :)
18:15 < Postal> I have never used this irc program before.. i always use xchat
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18:16 < Postal> So i guess that I should not close the Server Control window then lol
18:17 < Postal> in hindsight it was a bad idea lol
18:18 < Postal> Ok, so I am going to cross compile
18:19 < Postal> do I need a sperate boot partiton and such?
18:21 < Postal> or can i just partition my HD into one large partition?
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18:29 < jeru> moin
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18:29 < Postal> hmmm
18:30 < mnemoc> moin plone
18:30 < jeru> oO( am I here ?)o
18:31 < mnemoc> i can seeeeeeee you
18:31 < jeru> mnemoc: how are you today ?
18:31 < jeru> mnemoc: better have a look at http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/jeru/ref/regressions.html :p
18:32 < mnemoc> :'(
18:32 < jeru> mnemoc: but it's better than before with 60+ broken builds
18:33 < jeru> some of them are a bit strange because the build fails due to shared files with other packages
18:36 < rxr> re
18:36 < rxr> hi jeru
18:37 < jeru> hi rxr
18:37 < rxr> MacOS X getting on my nerves ...
18:37 < SerWou> hehe rxr
18:37 < SerWou> my teachers force me to use G5 and tiger
18:37 < Postal> ill brb i have to reboot to use the new partition table
18:37 < SerWou> ...
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18:55 < Postal> In a cross compile, under architecture, do I specify the target arch?
18:57 < rxr> yes - the target
18:57 < Postal> rxr: can i just use one big partition, or should i make a /boot and so on?
19:00 < rxr> Postal: one partition is enought
19:01 < rxr> -t
19:01 < Postal> cool
19:01 < Postal> i suppose that this compile will take longer in 32 bit..
19:01 < rxr> nope
19:02 < Postal> really
19:02 < rxr> actual 64 bit code is normally not faster than 32bit code ...
19:02 < Postal> rxr: then whats the point?
19:02 < rxr> and 64bit code takes longer to generate - more registers and data types to schedule ...
19:03 < rxr> well - you need 64bit for lot of memory
19:03 < rxr> and for applications accessing huge amounts of data - such as databaes - but also video editing can benefit ...
19:03 < Postal> good, i do video editing
19:03 < rxr> well - and on x86 64 bit code "can" be faster because x86-64 has more registers ...
19:04 < Postal> once in a 64 bit enviroment, do things run faster... not compile faster, but run faster?
19:05 < Postal> well its building now
19:06 < Postal> would be helpful if i dl first
19:07 < Postal> rxr: after i get out of finals, you need to let me correct some of the grammer on the website...
19:16 < Postal> it would make it a little easier to understand
19:18 < mipe> hmm,linux26 still fails, adm8211 doesnt do compile stage at all
19:18 < mipe> just tryes to copy module but its not there since it didnt build it
19:20 < rxr> mipe: hm
19:21 < rxr> I have indded not tested a stage1 bulid of the adm8211 driver
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19:33 < Postal> yeay stage 1
19:40 < rxr> good
19:41 < rxr> I was not sure if the livecd contains all to build T2 ...
19:41 < rxr> you use the live cd to build ?
19:44 < Postal> yes
19:45 < mnemoc> .oO( misc/boot/livecd )o
19:55 < rxr> mnemoc: .o(credit card size live cd for data rescue, discovery, administration, ...)
19:56 < mnemoc> t2@live is a target, but livecd must be a feature
19:57 < rxr> define feature
19:57 < mnemoc> [X] livecd
19:59 < jeru> mnemoc: that would be nice
19:59 < mnemoc> i hope that definition is good enough :)
19:59 < rxr> ouhm
19:59 < rxr> Compilers in Mac OS X automatically convert the 4-character representation to the integer representation when they encounter four characters within single quotes, such as ???GIFf???.
20:00 < rxr> ^- quote from "Cocoa/Conceptual/LowLevelFileMgmt"
20:00 < rxr> mnemoc: if we do it this way, we also shoudl obsolete the install target on the way:
20:00 < rxr> [X] installable
20:01 < rxr> [ ] livecd
20:01 < rxr> [ ] ROM image
20:01 < rxr> [ ] nothing - you care
20:02 < jeru> rxr: I think this would be more intuitive for SDE users:)
20:02 < mnemoc> yes
20:02 < rxr> this would also imply deep changes in the way the images are generated
20:02 < rxr> and this is necessary anyway
20:02 < rxr> we _MUST_ factor out boot loader setup of the targets
20:03 < rxr> as long planed
20:03 < mnemoc> yes
20:03 < rxr> and the bootdisk target is damned anyway
20:03 < mnemoc> we can keep packaging 'nothing - you care
20:03 < mnemoc> ' builds on an installable ISO
20:03 < rxr> and it wasts a lot of build time resources just building "crap"
20:03 < mnemoc> yes
20:04 < rxr> mnemoc: but we want a quick 2.2, ok?
20:04 < rxr> not so deep changes ...
20:04 < rxr> just the udev modular kernel and state of the art live cd and off it goes in 2 month max, ok ?
20:04 < jeru> rxr: yes ... :)
20:05 < rxr> and then 2.3 is major "boot code" creation overhaul ?
20:05 < mnemoc> foo-% for 2.4?
20:06 < rxr> and some time on the way we should implement "building on otherwise doomed systems" such as os x
20:06 < mnemoc> we need a roadmap on our CMS..... jeru? :)
20:06 < rxr> that is no target but only in-system builds for them ...
20:06 < jeru> mnemoc: ok ok .... :)
20:06 < mnemoc> :)
20:06 < rxr> slowlaris and windoze would be other candidates - if someone would care about those toy wannabe OSes
20:07 < rxr> at least Slowlaris seemt o migrate to use a mature boot loader for x86 - grub that is *g*
20:07 < mnemoc> i think it's more important to have other OSes as target than as hosts
20:07 < rxr> maybe they even decide to replace their wannabe language called kaffee with s.th. more mature ...
20:07 < rxr> (and open source=
20:07 < rxr> ) even
20:08 < rxr> have I said today that it took me 2 hours to find "Saving HFS Type and Creator Codes" on the Apple site ?
20:08 < mnemoc> what opensource java is more mature than kaffe?
20:08 < jeru> mnemoc: I guess "kaffee" was german meaning "java"
20:08 < rxr> I would love to use T2 to Emerge subversion on my osx when I have to work on the evil size of money racing ...
20:08 < rxr> raising even?
20:09 < rxr> jeru: ack - I meant java of course ...
20:09 < rxr> toy language that is ...
20:09 < mnemoc> i see Emerge on misc hosts completly out of the scope of an SDE
20:09 < mnemoc> cool, but out of scope
20:10 < mnemoc> rxr, btw... do you have something written on "SDE advocacy"? (why an SDE?,...)
20:10 < rxr> ouhm - started it ... but - these days I'm already loaded with coding and business organization (that is getting money and paper work around it done=
20:11 < rxr> ) even
20:11 < rxr> but I could donate time for such conceptual paper in the next time
20:11 < rxr> as "T2 SDE" promotion work
20:12 < mnemoc> we should prepare material on that field... even some presentations
20:12 < mnemoc> why an SDE, and then why T2
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20:13 < rxr> yes - but those work always consumes _a lot_ of time ...
20:14 < mnemoc> colaborative work would reduce that
20:14 < mnemoc> .oO( work aligned )o
20:14 < jeru> mnemoc: ack
20:18 < mnemoc> currenlty we only atract people who already knows the pain non SDE/DBK options are
20:19 < Postal> dietlibc errored out
20:19 < Postal> where do i find the logs again?
20:20 < mnemoc> i saw skaar yesterday on #plone.... he is back on openbsd
20:20 < mnemoc> src.foo.*/ERROR-LOG
20:21 < jeru> mnemoc: sorry, but who is skaar ?
20:22 < mnemoc> he leaved rock when i arrived.... back on 2002 :)
20:22 < rxr> valentin: I registered EXAC as creator ID for our products at Apple ...
20:22 < Postal> x86_64-t2-linux-gnu-cc -I. -isystem include -Os -fstrict-aliasing -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -mfancy-math-387 -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wno-switch -Wno-unused -Wredundant-decls -c dyn_start.c -o bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o
20:22 < Postal> dyn_start.c:42: internal compiler error: in named_section_flags, at varasm.c:394
20:22 < Postal> Please submit a full bug report,
20:22 < Postal> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
20:22 < rxr> the better matches are already taken ...
20:22 < Postal> See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
20:22 < Postal> make: *** [bin-x86_64/dyn_start.o] Error 1
20:22 < rxr> Postal: that is known :-()
20:22 < Postal> rxr: well at least its known
20:22 < rxr> and new
20:23 < rxr> you could revert the dietlibc update locally ...
20:23 < Postal> rxr: how?
20:26 < rxr> Postal: svn merge -r r8998:
20:26 < rxr> oops
20:26 < rxr> Postal: svn merge -r8998:8997
20:26 < rxr> Postal: svn merge -r8998:8997 .
20:26 < mnemoc> rxr: what is hook_add premake 5 "\eval $MAKE CFG=\"$makeopt\"" on freetype1.conf?
20:27 < rxr> do not remeber off hand ...
20:27 < rxr> svn blame
20:27 < rxr> svn log revision-of-change
20:27 < rxr> but I guess since rev1 thre ...
20:27 < rxr> there even
20:28 < rxr> guess the top level makefiles executes subdir Makefiles non-standard
20:28 < rxr> and thus we bass the config option to them with CFG ...
20:28 < rxr> no ?
20:28 < mnemoc> \eval ?
20:28 < mnemoc> looks like tex :)
20:29 < mnemoc> 1 - premake="\eval $MAKE CFG=\"$makeopt\""
20:29 < mnemoc> trace ended there
20:29 < mnemoc> "$MAKE 'CFG=$makeopt'" has more sense to me
20:29 < rxr> mnemoc: it failes ?
20:29 < rxr> fails even ...
20:30 < rxr> damn - s.th. is wrong with my fingers ...
20:30 < rxr> .o(or the ibook keyboard ... ?)
20:30 < rxr> too much PC USB keyboard the last weeks .... ?
20:31 < mnemoc> ==[hook_eval:66 (last $?=0)> eval '\eval make CFG="-j4 CC="$CC" CPP="$CPP" CXX="$CXX" prefix="/$prefix""'
20:31 < mnemoc> ===[hook_eval:66 (last $?=0)> eval make 'CFG=-j4 CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/usr'
20:31 < mnemoc> ====[hook_eval:66 (last $?=0)> make CFG=-j4 CC=gcc CPP=cpp CXX=g++ prefix=/usr
20:31 < mnemoc> cd lib; make -f arch/unix/Makefile all
20:31 < Postal> rene, that command did not work
20:32 < rxr> mnemoc: didn't it build since ages ?
20:32 < mnemoc> rxr: no, it builds
20:32 < mnemoc> rxr: but the line is uuuuugly
20:32 < rxr> why do you look at xtrace logs of building packages ?
20:32 < rxr> hell - you have free time ?
20:32 < rxr> go and write presentatinos ...
20:33 < mnemoc> and i don't find the sense of it
20:33 < rxr> mnemoc: svn blame it ...
20:33 < mnemoc> [14:30:07] 1 - premake="\eval $MAKE CFG=\"$makeopt\""
20:33 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. you read when I reload the repositories svn blame will become faster ?
20:33 < rxr> ah
20:33 < rxr> ...
20:33 < mnemoc> my biggest latency isn't at svn itself
20:34 < rxr> but?
20:34 < mnemoc> network :)
20:35 < rxr> #include
20:35 < rxr> /Users/rene/develop/exact-scan/AppController.M:48:40: QuickTime/ImageCompression.h: No such file or directory
20:35 < rxr> ?!?!!?
20:35 < rxr> this damn shit osx update stuff ..
20:35 < mnemoc> exact-scan? again?
20:35 < rxr> recently it mangled some other system header
20:35 < rxr> and now it destroyed QuickTime fluff ...
20:36 < rxr> h*ll
20:36 < rxr> I want my Linux back ..
20:36 < rxr> lety try the automated QuickTime SDK update I did not wanted to appyl some hours ago ...
20:37 < mnemoc> jeru: your skin product made my plone tableless
20:37 < jeru> mnemoc: what's the problem with it ?
20:37 < mnemoc> jeru: and i don't see you skin to be selected
20:38 < jeru> mnemoc: not ?
20:38 < mnemoc> jeru: nothing changed but the sloted bellow the content
20:38 < mnemoc> jeru: intranet.conosur.0
20:41 < rxr> wow
20:41 < rxr> now I get thousands of
20:41 < rxr> /Users/rene/develop/exact-scan/AppController.M:48:40: QuickTime/ImageCompression.h: No such file or directory
20:41 < rxr> error: redefinition of `int AVAILABLE_MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_4_AND_LATER'
20:44 < _Lewellyn> rxr: did you see my early reports of running the livecd under vmware?
20:45 < rxr> no idea
20:45 < jeru> _Lewellyn: it worked on my site using livecd beta
20:45 < _Lewellyn> video works fine, net works fine. so far, everything is working fine. cannot test sound as i can't get sound working on the host.
20:45 < _Lewellyn> this was with vmware 4.5.2-8848
20:45 < jeru> _Lewellyn: ah ok
20:46 < _Lewellyn> i'll poke at it more as i have time.
20:46 < _Lewellyn> jeru: did you try it under vmware 5?
20:46 < jeru> no
20:46 < _Lewellyn> hm. guess i'll have to have someone here do that later then
20:47 < jeru> I don't know the exact version but it was with v4 at work
20:47 < _Lewellyn> rxr: i also discovered why my pendrive didn't work :/
20:47 < rxr> why?
20:50 < _Lewellyn> i have to mount the device directly; there is no partition table. just a raw ntfs partition. i apparently formatted it as a giant ntfs floppy from within xp.
20:50 < _Lewellyn> it even shows up with a floppy icon and a "hard disk" description in My Computer
20:52 < rxr> cu
20:52 < _Lewellyn> oh. and in the kde desktop of the livecd... i get my floppy drive showing up as a hard disk icon
20:52 < _Lewellyn> have a good night :)
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21:40 < sepp> hi all
21:40 < mnemoc> hi sepp
21:41 < sepp> mnemoc: i added java dirtree but bdb still gets --enable-java
21:42 < sepp> i was too lazy to look why i simply disabled ...
21:42 < sepp> it
21:45 < _Lewellyn> oh. we have mnemoc again! :)
21:46 < sepp> if [ "$JAVA_HOME" ] should eval. to false if i have no jre/jdk ?
21:47 < valentin> remoin
21:47 < mnemoc> sepp: that's the idea
21:47 < mnemoc> _Lewellyn: yes :)
21:47 < sepp> but it does not work :(
21:48 < mnemoc> sepp: cd src.bdb.*/
21:48 < mnemoc> sepp: ./debug.sh
21:48 < mnemoc> echo $JAVA_HOME
21:49 < sepp> moment
21:50 < mnemoc> anothe thing can be reset-ing JAVA_HOME on top of java-dirtree/parse-config
21:50 < mnemoc> if it comes from outside
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21:52 < mnemoc> hi t2-project.bg
21:52 < tilix> hi
21:55 < sepp> uhm ./debug.sh
21:55 < sepp> /bin/bash: TOOLCHAIN/src.bdb.1117050762.23041.7f0100/debug_x.sh: No such file or directory
21:55 < sepp> from bdb
21:55 < sepp> !> The package build aborted with the following config error:
21:55 < sepp> !> pkgprefix: package java-dirtree is not present
21:55 < sepp> damn
21:55 < sepp> wrong dir
21:58 < sepp> mnemoc: echo $JAVA_HOME /opt/java/sun-jdk-1.5.0_03
21:58 < mnemoc> is that from outworld?
21:58 < sepp> yes
21:58 < mnemoc> vi package/*/java-dirtree/parse-config
22:03 < sepp> and?
22:07 < mnemoc> minute :p
22:07 < mnemoc> phone
22:07 < mnemoc> on line 29, unset JAVA_HOME
22:08 < sepp> i already fixed bdb with uncommenting the java things
22:09 < sepp> i only wanted to inform you that it does not work right now
22:10 < mnemoc> you were my option to test the fix :(
22:11 < sepp> so i shoul comment export JAVA_HOME CLASSPATH PATH ?
22:11 < sepp> should
22:11 < mnemoc> no no
22:11 < mnemoc> unset host's
22:12 < sepp> this is 2.1
22:12 < mnemoc> they are identical
22:13 < mnemoc> unset JAVA_HOME CLASSPATH before entering the for
22:13 < sepp> moment
22:15 < sepp> line 29???
22:16 < mnemoc> before the for
22:17 < sepp> JAVA_EVERYJDK="sun-jdk-150 sun-jdk-142 ibm-jdk-142 blackdown-jdk"
22:18 < sepp>
22:18 < sepp> [ "$desc_F" != "${desc_F/KAFFE}" ] &&
22:18 < sepp> JAVA_EVERYJDK="kaffe $JAVA_EVERYJDK"
22:18 < sepp> i am at revision 9107
22:18 < mnemoc> uhm
22:18 < mnemoc> you are missing a revision
22:18 < mnemoc> weird
22:19 < sepp> i svn up 1 minute ago, no bdb java-dirtree change
22:19 < mnemoc> or i forgot to commit something
22:19 < mnemoc> anyway, just before the 'for' unset JAVA_HOME CLASSPATH
22:19 < rxr> re
22:20 < rxr> valentin: urgently I need you ...
22:20 < mnemoc> the change missing is an exception to skip sun-jdk-150 for ooo
22:23 < sepp> 05/25/05 22:24:09 =[5]=> Finished building package bdb.
22:23 < sepp> :)
22:24 < mnemoc> good
22:24 < sepp> hmm my date is wrong
22:24 < mnemoc> hehe
22:25 < sepp> someone put my box into a time machine
22:25 < Postal> rxr: the command you gave me svn merge -r 8998:8997 to revert the dietlibc localy, does not work
22:25 < mnemoc> Postal: what did it output?
22:26 < Postal> rxr: the command you gave me svn merge -r 8998:8997 to revert the dietlibc localy, does not work
22:26 < Postal> opps
22:26 < Postal> merge: Apply the differences between two sources to a working copy path.
22:26 < Postal> usage: 1. merge sourceURL1[@N] sourceURL2[@M] [WCPATH]
22:26 < Postal> 2. merge sourceWCPATH1@N sourceWCPATH2@M [WCPATH]
22:26 < Postal> 3. merge -r N:M SOURCE[@REV] [WCPATH]
22:26 < Postal> and then it goes on in a man page type format
22:26 < mnemoc> you forgot the trailing dot
22:27 < mnemoc> svn merge -r 8998:8997 .
22:27 < Postal> ah
22:27 < Postal> that would do it
22:27 < Postal> ok now it works
22:27 < Postal> see its always the little things
22:27 < rxr> re
22:28 < rxr> hehe
22:28 < rxr> yep - forgot the . first, too ..
22:28 < rxr> so /me tired and such - falling into bed - cu early - around 6 ...
22:29 < Postal> ok
22:29 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. apple fuckup was precompiled header mismatch - damn crap ...
22:29 * Postal thinks rxr does not like apple
22:29 < sepp> so you want a new grub-splash?
22:31 < Postal> x86_64/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start'
22:31 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
22:31 < Postal> make: *** [bin-x86_64/elftrunc] Error 1
22:31 < Postal> damn
22:31 < Postal> /home/media/t2/t2-trunk/src.dietlibc.1116970128.710.7f0100/dietlibc-0.28/bin-x86_64/start.o(.text+0x15): In function `_start':
22:31 < Postal> x86_64/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start'
22:31 < Postal> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
22:31 < Postal> make: *** [bin-x86_64/elftrunc] Error 1
22:31 < Postal> there
22:34 < rxr> sepp: me ?
22:34 < rxr> sepp: - the current one is ok for me - just not my gf ...
22:34 < rxr> but we should work on a real logo we all agree on and then matching artwork to use ..
22:34 < rxr> Postal: I can imagine what is wrong there ...
22:34 < rxr> well - maybe just disable dietlibc for now and go on with the build ...
22:34 < Postal> can or cannot
22:35 < Postal> isnt dietlibc important?
22:35 < rxr> well - more or less
22:35 < rxr> *g*
22:35 < rxr> I could provide a patch for your new problem
22:35 < rxr> but I need sleep now - and we shoudl work to get the latest one build anyway ...
22:35 < Postal> that would be fantastic
22:36 < Postal> this is true
22:36 < rxr> Postal: let's meet tomorrrow again
22:36 < rxr> I can try to track it here on a cross build ...
22:36 < rxr> cu
22:36 < Postal> well it will wait until tomorrow, its not going anywhere... but i think i may be home late tomorrow
22:37 < Postal> so ill svn up when i get home, and if you fixed it ill know
22:37 < Postal> gn8
22:56 < CIA-9> amery * r9108 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/parse-config: * fixed java-dirtree/parse-config to remove outter world's JAVA_HOME and CLASSPATH
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