--- Log opened Mon May 09 00:00:47 2005 00:00 < mnemoc_> a -local $url option to Download can be very useful 00:04 < rxr> doing what ? 00:08 < rxr> mnemoc_: when to got to the press with the live cd - when it works mostly (in 2 days or so) 00:08 < rxr> or when it is perfect with full d-bus and hal integration, install option, permanent data storage partition selection and so on ? 00:08 < rxr> that is in 2 weeks or so ?= 00:09 < mnemoc_> downloading from a mirror of non-mirrorable stuff 00:09 < rxr> btw you mention you missed lspci - you tested the first live-cd ? 00:10 < mnemoc_> v3, yes 00:12 < rxr> and - all fine ? 00:12 < rxr> in qemu or real hardware ? 00:12 < mnemoc_> an error about DIRCOLORS but everything looks ok 00:12 < mnemoc_> real hardware 00:12 < rxr> yes that was known ... 00:12 < rxr> due to only dumping a bit of my life system into it ,-) 00:13 < rxr> right now I wonder why the h*ll the udev permissions are not applied ... 00:18 < valentin> someone knows a good global available nameserver ? 00:18 < valentin> there were some from netscape or yahoo or so ... 00:19 < rxr> why? 00:19 < rxr> as example in the frontend ? 00:19 < valentin> just to fill something in initialy when a new manual config is created 00:19 < rxr> hm 00:19 < valentin> i could use something stupid like 127.0.0.1 00:19 < rxr> no - then 192.168.1.1 or so ... 00:19 < valentin> but it is nice to have one that is always working for sure 00:19 < valentin> ok 00:20 < rxr> give google a try - maybe there are global nameserver .. 00:20 < rxr> however we could also perconfigure a ns cache locally using the root nameserver ... ,-) 00:20 < valentin> i always used global nameservers (imo netscapre) in the past 00:20 < rxr> or you find a good global one 00:20 < rxr> I never did ,-) 00:20 < rxr> the telco ones - or the uni one ... 00:21 < valentin> since i have my dsl i use a mix from qsc and my univ. 00:21 < valentin> back in my old analogue time i used the netscape one 00:21 < valentin> because this did not change every two weeks and provider 00:22 < valentin> yes - i know peerdns stuff :) 00:22 < rxr> at that time PPP was not able to parse the peer fields ... 00:22 < rxr> this is a new feature since 1 or 2 years or so ... 00:24 < valentin> yes 00:25 < valentin> even t-online changed their nameservers from time to time 00:28 < rxr> and - did google retun some global nameserver ? 00:28 < valentin> mnemoc_: your ppp profile is incomplete - where is the password option ? ,) 00:28 < valentin> did not search, just took the 192 .... one now 00:29 < mnemoc_> valentin: on /etc/ppp/pap-secrets where it belongs 00:30 < valentin> :( 00:30 < mnemoc_> :) 00:31 < mnemoc_> i don't want to have my /etc/conf/network 600 00:31 < mnemoc_> but i dont awant to expose my password neither 00:31 < valentin> what widget would you propose for netmask bits ? textfield, spin button or a simple drop down with a set of standart nmb's like 24,16,8,0 ? 00:31 < valentin> i would take a spin button 00:31 < valentin> mnemoc_: sissi... 00:32 < mnemoc_> [0-3][0-9]? 00:32 < rxr> valentin: kde has a special widget for it IIRC 00:32 < valentin> huh ? 00:32 < mnemoc_> .oO( sissi? )o 00:32 < valentin> did not find that 00:32 < rxr> what has OS X? 00:32 < rxr> I think four fields, right ? 00:32 < valentin> old style netmask field 00:32 < valentin> iirc 00:33 < mnemoc_> valentin: what sissi means? 00:34 < valentin> milksop, softy ,) 00:34 < valentin> you fear someone will take your password .... 00:34 < mnemoc_> hehe 00:34 < valentin> netmask field ? 00:36 < mnemoc_> just a fifth field after an / :) 00:37 < valentin> yeah - but this looks ugly when there are two other ip fields below without the netmask thing 00:39 < rxr> I think the new /bits syntax is too unknown to users ... 00:39 < rxr> maybe leave the old syntax in the frontend for now ... 00:41 < valentin> so i.e use another ip widget for that ? 00:42 < valentin> and how can i convert netmask into bits if some moron enters something not (2^32 - 1) - (2^nmb - 1) ? 00:42 < rxr> I do not know qt enough ... 00:42 < rxr> slap him ... 00:42 < valentin> rxr: this has nothing to do with qt 00:42 < rxr> either error or just count to the first not set bit 00:43 < valentin> rxr: ok :) 00:43 < valentin> if someone enteres something different i will pop up a window with the kde dragon to scare him away :) 00:44 < valentin> i just test how my spinbox thing looks before, because i already implemented that during the discussion 00:45 < valentin> uagh - looks ugly :) 00:45 < rxr> haha 00:46 < rxr> one needs a credit card for iTunes - even in Germany ... 00:46 < rxr> goodbye iTunes - click 00:46 < rxr> who the hell wants a credit card !?!?! 00:46 < valentin> everyone outside eu ? 00:48 < valentin> i'll eat a tangerine now, and because that may be a bit messy, i will not anwer your questions for some minutes... 00:48 < rxr> valentin: that is the _german_ iTunes store .. 00:48 < rxr> not the US one I wanted to sign in ... 00:49 < rxr> at least I do not need to frickle the songs out of OS suX now ... 00:52 < rxr> I hope my athlon does not start to feel boring ... 00:52 < rxr> only shuffling livecd's together since days ... 00:54 < valentin> why is there still the drock-user list ? 00:54 < rxr> because the sourceforge people suck 00:54 < valentin> sourceforge sucks 00:54 < valentin> :) 00:54 < valentin> same thought in the same second 00:55 < rxr> I already mailed them several times to remove both drock and gsmp 00:55 < rxr> but they simple don't do it .. 00:55 < rxr> I just added it to the service tracker of them some weeks ago ... 00:55 < rxr> but - welll - what should I say - they suck so much I have seldom see someone sucking .. 00:56 < rxr> I have no idea - what I should do ... 00:56 < rxr> one can not remove project - to do so you have to add a request to the service thing there ... 00:58 < valentin> rxr: nuke them 00:58 < valentin> or sue them 00:58 < rxr> Natalie Imbruglia 00:58 < rxr> there is a new CD from her - I can't believe this ... 00:58 < valentin> thats a good idea - send Natalie over there 00:58 < rxr> just noticed on http://www.musicload.de 00:59 < rxr> why the h*ll is the no music service one can use ... 00:59 < rxr> either kredit card or unacceptable download formats ... 00:59 < valentin> donkey ? 00:59 < rxr> or whatever crap ... 00:59 < rxr> damn # 01:01 < rxr> Qualit?t: WMA-File 01:01 < rxr> 128 kbit/s 01:01 < rxr> that must be a joke - really ... 01:01 < rxr> who pays - let me check - 01:01 < rxr> 1,59 EUR per sonf for such a crappy WMA shit ??!?! 01:01 < rxr> guess t-offline users ... 01:01 < rxr> and windows junies ... 01:04 < rxr> ok - well - there are also those strange people and kids investing in ring tones for the cell ... 01:16 < rxr> Mp3shop4you verkauft Dateien im MP3-Format mit 192 kBit/s zu einem Festpreis von 79 Cent pro Titel zuz?glich Mehrwertssteuer. Bezahlt wird via Paypal oder auf Rechnung -- bei letzterer Variante f?llt die Mehrwertssteuer ?berraschenderweise unter den Tisch und wird mit 0 Euro berechnet. Bei Download-Stichproben von heise online konnten die Dateien trotz der hohen Bitrate klanglich nicht ?berzeugen. 01:17 < rxr> Unknown host www.mp3shop4you.de 01:17 < rxr> aha 01:19 < valentin> try .com 01:20 < rxr> domaingrabber 01:20 < valentin> yes :/ 01:20 < rxr> seems this dubious company went bankrupt ... 01:28 < rxr> http://shopbase.finetunes.net/ 01:28 < rxr> fedora core test page - lol 01:29 < rxr> http://shopbase.finetunes.net/shopserver/ActionServlet 01:29 < rxr> is the show - what is redirected to from www. 01:32 < Veki> I have to sleep, but i will awake early in teh morning again. I am glad that you are doing rather well 01:33 < rxr> gn8 Veki cu in the morning then ,-) 01:33 < Veki> cu, thanx 01:33 -!- Veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 01:36 < rxr> ok - me moving into bed and only come back to test the first bruned live cd in the K6-2 233 box or what it is ,-) 01:37 < valentin> i wonder if my hacked netmask works now 01:38 < valentin> rxr: squashfs again ? 02:02 < rxr> no - waiting for the lousy iBook CD writer to burn my CD-RW at 4x ... 02:02 < rxr> damn - does not boot 02:02 < rxr> but the kernel does not come up - maybe the kernel I implanted is optmized too high ... 02:03 < rxr> I test on my athlon - reboot - cu 02:08 < mnemoc_> cu rxr 02:10 < valentin> i will fall asleep soon, too ... 02:10 < valentin> the question is: shall i coffee or get up a bit earlier tomorow ? 02:11 < mnemoc_> can you get up early and be productive? 02:11 < valentin> HAHAHAHA http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/08/2030216 02:12 < valentin> too bad the blog with the screenshot seems to be slashdotted ... 02:13 < valentin> mnemoc_: good question 02:13 < valentin> sometimes i managed to work in the early morning when i was under extremly high preassure 02:16 < valentin> ah - there is a netmirror 02:16 < valentin> this red looks very hostile 02:17 < valentin> and those very informative messages like "an error occured" 02:18 < mnemoc_> :D 02:20 < rxr> h,m 02:20 < rxr> hm even 02:20 < rxr> on the athlon it boots 02:20 < rxr> but it includes a bug I already fixed 02:20 < rxr> must have forgotten to run mkinitramfs again ... :-() 02:21 < rxr> valentin: sleep on need .. 02:21 < rxr> we will not have a cd until evening anyway ... 02:21 < rxr> and I need to find out why KDE gives IPC errors when running as live user 02:21 < rxr> maybe udev permission of s.th. in /dev ... 02:21 < rxr> I'll track tomorrow 02:22 < valentin> .oO 02:22 < mnemoc_> gn8 rxr 02:22 < valentin> rxr: i can implement a RSOD 02:22 < mnemoc_> LOL 02:22 < rxr> valentin: and I kick you ... 02:23 < rxr> better implement a userspace "screeon of boot" .-) 02:23 < rxr> "They also fail to mention the 3rd kind of failiure: the purple screen of death. Happens when longhorn bsods and rsods at the same time. psod is part of microsoft's new "quantum crash" technology, which is another added feature to longhorn." 02:23 < rxr> n8 all 02:25 < valentin> hehe 02:25 < valentin> gn8 rxr 02:25 < valentin> mnemoc_: i think i will leave you, too 02:26 < valentin> before my brain starts to {B,R}SOD 02:27 < valentin> gn8 all 02:35 < mnemoc_> valentin: gn8 03:10 -!- sparc-kly|U2 [~mubex@64.237.132.176] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:42 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@64.237.132.176] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:30 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@65-23-193-208.prtc.net] has joined #t2 07:28 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 07:38 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 07:44 -!- FeR [~FeR@cable200-116-193-23.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 07:47 -!- FeR [~FeR@cable200-116-193-23.epm.net.co] has quit [Client Quit] 07:51 -!- FeR [~FeR@cable200-116-193-23.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 08:03 -!- FeR [~FeR@cable200-116-193-23.epm.net.co] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:36 < mnemoc> .oO( where is everybody this morning? )o 10:42 < daja77> sleeping 10:46 < mnemoc> :) 10:46 < mnemoc> i should be doing that also 10:47 < daja77> :) 10:49 < mnemoc> i take tje bus to univ in 1:20h... doesn't make much sense to go to sleep :\ 10:50 < daja77> :/ 10:59 < valentin> moin 11:00 < valentin> mnemoc: you are mad ... 11:00 < mnemoc> hi valentin 11:00 < mnemoc> why? 11:00 < valentin> because you stay up all night ... 11:01 < mnemoc> how many times have you stay awake until 5am? 11:01 < mnemoc> i would say "quite often" :) 11:03 < mnemoc> the only problem is that i will be sleep on the exams i have today :'( 11:03 < valentin> mnemoc: but not when i have to work the morning after 11:03 < valentin> you have exams today ? 11:03 < valentin> .oO 11:03 < rxr> re 11:03 < mnemoc> hi rxr 11:04 < rxr> hi mnemoc 11:05 < rxr> mnemoc: I wish you luck ans success for your exames 11:05 < valentin> hi rxr 11:05 < mnemoc> i have 4 documents to deliver today, one control and 2 exams :( 11:06 < valentin> so you worked the whole night ? 11:06 < mnemoc> aa... and a java homework for "concurrent programming" 11:06 < rxr> me booting into live again ... 11:06 < rxr> cu soon 11:06 < rxr> .oO(poor mnemoc) 11:06 < mnemoc> on the damn documents :( 11:07 < mnemoc> i have to learn java before doing the homework :\ 11:09 < mnemoc> rxr: will your livecd thing be appliable to different targets? or just on target? 11:13 < mnemoc> i was asked about a frontier firewall solution on livecd (firewall+router+dmz+vpn+web interface) 11:14 < valentin> mnemoc: of course you can take the technology and alter some package selection / configs 11:14 < mnemoc> ok, so 'just one target' 11:15 < rxr> re 11:15 < rxr> cool - livecd now works - good that I slept - it has just been the /tmp permissiosn ... 11:16 < rxr> mnemoc: the implementation details can of course be discussed, changed and tweaked 11:16 < rxr> for now it is a tartetr 11:16 < rxr> target even 11:16 < mnemoc> :) 11:19 < mnemoc> i'll wait for you 'release' before going deep on that 11:25 < CIA-10> rene * r8731 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/system.init: 11:25 < CIA-10> * made sure /dev/pts is created, such as /dev/shm previously, e.g. 11:25 < CIA-10> for u/dev systems ... 11:54 < rxr> ok - boot straight into kde now: 11:54 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2-live.png 11:55 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/t2-live-alpha.iso 12:00 < rxr> valentin: we need a graphical language, keymapping and timezone chooser ... 12:00 < rxr> :-) 12:00 * rxr shower and getting breakfast ... 12:01 < rxr> valentin: do you want to downloa first, or should I push it to the uni first? 12:01 < rxr> I think the later, yep? 12:04 < rxr> 18.0KB/s 8:08:21 ETA 12:04 < rxr> transfer to UNI ... 12:05 < rxr> 19.2KB/s 7:39:00 ETA 12:05 < rxr> we'll see /me shortly away 12:05 < valentin> ok 12:05 < valentin> cu rxr 12:06 < valentin> rxr: there is the kde wizzard ... 12:14 < rxr> hm - ok, indeed 12:14 < rxr> I need to check that out ... 12:14 < rxr> valentin: maybe we could meet this evening? for a bof ? 12:14 < rxr> are you in the uni today? 12:20 < valentin> yes, but i will hack my netconf 12:20 < valentin> i meet with K's family at 19:00 in a Restaurant in Britz 12:21 < valentin> i could come over after that 12:37 < rxr> hm - not too late susan will be here, so it would be a bit rude to hang out until late when we need to get up early around 6 in the morning ... 12:37 * rxr bakery - finally - after the usual Avision PR pushing phonecalls ... 12:47 < rxr> quite dark clouds on the sky ... 12:47 < rxr> 10? ... 12:52 -!- _jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 12:52 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru 12:52 < jeru> moin 12:57 < rxr> moin jeru 12:59 < jeru> rxr: how do we handle the [M] flags for "unmaintained" packages ? 13:01 < jeru> rxr: should we wipe out all the rock related package maintainers? e.g. if we upgrade a package 13:02 < valentin> moin jeru 13:02 < valentin> 10 what ? 13:03 < jeru> moin valentin ... how about helicopters today ? ;) 13:11 < valentin> seen none yey 13:11 < valentin> yet 13:13 < jeru> have anyone still tested this bacula backup system which was described in the current linux-magazin ? 13:13 < jeru> looks quite interesting for my machines at work 13:14 < jeru> to replace my hand made backup scripts 13:18 < valentin> someone was here a while ago who told sth about backula 13:18 < valentin> cu later 13:18 < jeru> cu valentin 13:22 < rxr> re 13:24 < rxr> 20.9KB/s 5:42:39 ETA 13:28 < jeru> just a note: I will update heimdal, postgresql, bacula soon 13:40 < rxr> valentin: I phoned our contractor - are you reachable via phone ? 14:21 < valentin> re 14:21 < valentin> my ibook crashed on wakeup 14:21 < valentin> first time since using 2.6 14:21 < valentin> rxr: i'll call you in some minutes 14:31 < rxr> at least pdksh allows ${x%blubs} and ${x#bla} 14:33 < CIA-10> chris * r8732 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/heimdal.desc: * updated heimdal (0.6.3 -> 0.6.4) 14:34 < CIA-10> chris * r8733 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc: * updated postgresql (8.0.1 -> 8.0.2) 14:34 -!- tilix [~tilix@212.116.139.141] has joined #t2 14:40 < rxr> jeru: btw. do you already use T2 @ work ? 14:40 < jeru> rxr: yep ... but psssssst ;) 14:41 < jeru> rxr: I've a network monitoring system based on T2 (you remember nagios was one of my first packages I commited ;) 14:42 < rxr> yep - I just was curious if you already run it in production @work - so psst ,-) 14:42 < rxr> this tiny shells drive me crazzy ... 14:43 < jeru> rxr: hmmm ... I agree one has to be a bit careful using it in production ;) 14:43 < rxr> what do you mean ? 14:44 < jeru> because my first installation are based from trunk and a lot has changed 14:44 < jeru> but no problems so far 14:44 < rxr> good ,-) 14:45 < rxr> ah - cool ,-) /me found a way to teach pdksh what doto do 14:47 < jeru> rxr: before I'll leave work today I'll start a T2 "stable" build for trouble ticket system @ work ... 14:49 < jeru> but I'm not quite sure if I should offer my technical director to using T2 for custom installations and droping debian 14:50 < rxr> of course ,-) 14:51 < jeru> rxr: yeah ... but he's debian adicted ... 14:51 < rxr> debian? was this this no-name project managing even less stable releases than we do *g* ? 14:52 < jeru> hehe :) 14:52 < rxr> 2.2 and initram u/dev will rock majorly 14:52 < rxr> with the livecd based install as desktop target I think it should become a major success 14:53 < jeru> rxr: full ack :) 14:54 < jeru> rxr: because they want to enter the security market they should create a new department for custom security solutions 14:54 < rxr> your company wants to enter ? 14:55 < jeru> .oO( based on T2 of course )o 14:55 < jeru> but I'll need a smart way for doing binary updates 14:56 < rxr> compressed xdeltas 14:56 < jeru> rxr: can you tell me more about ? 14:56 < jeru> or give me some links ? 14:57 < rxr> if you have ram to spare use unionfs to overlay - otherwise atomic updates are problematic 14:57 < rxr> jeru: hm - no links - just ideas ,-) 14:57 < jeru> delta images from tar balls ? 14:57 < rxr> binary deltas of the installed filesystem content 14:57 < jeru> oh! 14:58 < jeru> indeed that would be nice ... I remember your ideas regarding your partition layout for the embedded router :) 15:13 < rxr> it is a bit annoying that the grub cd does not boot on my old k62 :-( ... 15:24 < CIA-10> chris * r8734 /trunk/package/network/bacula/ (bacula.conf bacula.desc): 15:24 < CIA-10> * updated bacula (1.33.3-16Feb04 -> 1.36.3) 15:24 < CIA-10> * added bacula.conf 15:24 < CIA-10> * changed [S] (Beta -> Stable) 15:51 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178162189.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:51 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 15:51 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 15:51 [Users #t2] 15:51 [ _Ragnar__] [ jeru ] [ mtr] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 15:51 [ CIA-10 ] [ jsaw ] [ nzg] [ sparc-kly] 15:51 [ daja77 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ tilix ] 15:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 15:51 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 15:51 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 15:52 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.13.25] has joined #t2 15:52 < keinek> hi 15:56 < jeru> hi keinek 16:00 < mnemoc> hi 16:01 < valentin> i have to review a "jugend forscht" work 16:01 < mnemoc> O.O 16:02 < valentin> == researching youth 16:02 < mnemoc> thanks :) 16:02 < valentin> a science contest for pupils and young studends 16:02 < valentin> i have a work from a guy ho participated int mathematics/comp.science 16:02 < valentin> and he mistook the topic for "programming youth" 16:03 < valentin> he implemented a win32 p2p chat program 16:03 < mnemoc> using a known rpc or his own' 16:03 < valentin> maybe this was a lot of work for a 16 year old, but this has nothing todo with science 16:03 < mnemoc> ? 16:03 < valentin> his own 16:04 < valentin> though he uses many .net libs vor visualisation and stuff 16:04 < mnemoc> ic 16:04 < valentin> he has its own p2p routing protocol but he looses no word about that in the work 16:04 < valentin> he just counts the endless list of features his tool has 16:05 -!- mipe [~mika@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 16:05 < valentin> but the only interessting thing in a c.sci. context would be the routing 16:05 < valentin> so i cannot give many points for that 16:07 -!- rxr [~rene@e178176208.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:09 < jeru> hi mnemoc 16:16 < mnemoc> hi jeru 16:16 < valentin> ok, he talks about the protocol, but it is not too sophisticated 16:16 < mnemoc> jeru: [028] - IssueTrackerProduct 0.6.7 16:16 < jeru> mnemoc: have you tried it ? 16:16 < mnemoc> valentin: how is it centralized? 16:17 < mnemoc> jeru: no 16:17 < mnemoc> jeru: i'm waiting for you :) 16:17 < jeru> mnemoc: I'm sorry ... I'd like to have more hours per day ... as you too 16:18 < mnemoc> jeru: yep :| 16:18 < jeru> mnemoc: how long do plan to be here in the channel 16:18 < mnemoc> 1h 16:19 < valentin> mnemoc: you use a central server that connects you to a queried user, after that the clients exchange their routing tables 16:19 < mnemoc> but i'm not sure if i'll have class 16:19 < valentin> the stupid thing: all packages use the routing network between the nodes 16:19 < jeru> have to move home now ... so I guess I'll see you later. 16:19 < valentin> so it is not even real p2p 16:19 < mnemoc> jeru: cu 16:19 < valentin> they should just exchange ip addresses 16:20 < jeru> ok ... cu later folks :) 16:20 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:20 < mnemoc> valentin: he has only 16 :) 16:24 < valentin> mnemoc: i do not doubt that it was a big amount of work and i am sure he had to learn very much about the .net components and libs he uses 16:24 < valentin> but i have a list of criteria here that do not apply to this work 16:25 < mnemoc> ack, he is not creating anything 16:25 < valentin> and there is no explanation about advantages that his routing has 16:25 < rxr_> damn - grub is not working correctly on the good old K6 II @ 233 16:25 < rxr_> hanging strangely ... 16:25 < rxr_> damn 16:25 -!- You're now known as rxr 16:26 < valentin> i only see disadvantages, namely packages are send over many clients until they reach their destination 16:26 < mnemoc> rxr: last or previous? 16:26 < rxr> both 16:26 < rxr> from CD that is ... 16:27 < rxr> the CD boots fie in qemu, and susan's as well as mine athlon .. 16:27 < rxr> and yours, too .. 16:27 < rxr> damn x86 crap where each box has other defects .. 16:27 < valentin> hm 16:27 < mnemoc> .oO( was that grub? )o 16:30 < valentin> ugh - this guy participated every year since 2000 16:30 < valentin> and he won first prices for the more uninteressting works 16:30 < rxr> ? 16:31 < mnemoc> 2000 - 16 years.... since 11?? 16:31 < valentin> yes 16:32 < valentin> i understand why he won prices in 2000 16:32 < valentin> but he won the first price for a flash-visitor counter in 2003 what i consider rather trivial 16:33 < valentin> and the work he send in this year is a new version of a programm he send in last year 16:34 < CIA-10> amery * r8735 /trunk/package/network/rdesktop/rdesktop.desc: * updated rdesktop (1.4.0 -> 1.4.1) 16:34 < valentin> he is for sure a quite talented programmer, but as i said before this does not count 16:34 < CIA-10> amery * r8736 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (0.5.15 -> 0.5.16) 16:38 < rxr> valentin: since when do you review this jugend forscht crap, where people win with accumulator memory effect analyses that are long know ? 16:38 < rxr> +n 16:39 < valentin> since today 16:39 < CIA-10> amery * r8737 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7) 16:39 < rxr> you have jobs ... 16:39 < valentin> i did not want to, though 16:39 < valentin> yes 16:50 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@65-23-193-208.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:51 -!- tilix [~tilix@212.116.139.141] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:07 < CIA-10> lars * r8738 /trunk/package/themes/baghira/baghira.desc: * Updated baghira (0.6a --> 0.6e) 17:27 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@65-23-193-208.prtc.net] has joined #t2 18:00 < valentin> cu later 18:09 < rxr> re 18:12 < mnemoc> re 18:12 < rxr> mnemoc: oh - good to see you still alive ,-) 18:12 < mnemoc> :) 18:25 -!- mipe [~mika@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:36 < rxr> pentium mmx linux kernel 2.6.11.8-skas3 hang 18:36 < mnemoc> oh 18:36 < rxr> before decompressing 18:36 < mnemoc> o_O 18:36 < rxr> just google keywords ... 18:37 < rxr> I review if the skas patch is to be blame 18:37 < mnemoc> pkgsel "- uml_tools" 18:37 < rxr> already did ,-) 18:38 < mnemoc> :) 18:38 < rxr> or do you add more google meta tags? *g* 18:38 < mnemoc> nah 18:38 < mnemoc> uml_utilities anyway :p 18:38 < rxr> yep - ack 18:39 * daja77 proudly announces that i just convinced someone that chile is not in africa ^^ 18:39 < mnemoc> :D 18:46 < CIA-10> amery * r8739 /branches/2.1/package/audio/flac/flac.desc: * merged 8726 from trunk: removed Niklaus Filus as flac maintainer, gone years ago. 18:48 < rxr> did not seem to be skas patch ... 18:50 < mnemoc> http://193.151.73.87/games/lemmings/ 18:52 < rxr> crazzy 18:53 < rxr> even runs in konqueror !!! 18:53 < mnemoc> :D 18:56 < rxr> is it really HTML only ?!?! 19:14 < rxr> Enable seccomp to safely compute untrusted bytecode (SECCOMP) [Y/n/?] (NEW) 19:14 < rxr> ? 19:19 < _Ragnar__> moin 19:21 < rxr> moin _Ragnar__ 19:21 < _Ragnar__> hey :) how's it going? 19:24 < rxr> beside that my livecd's kernel does for some yet unknown reason not boot on my test pentium mmx2 19:25 < _Ragnar__> ooops 19:27 < rxr> -2 ... 19:27 < rxr> ,-) 19:54 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:54 < minto> hi all 19:54 < rxr> hi minto 19:55 * rxr just overformated an 1.44" disk to 1.6xx MB .. 19:55 < rxr> to get a kernel onto it ... :-( 19:55 < minto> mnemoc: Unfortunately I have not finished the java base stuff. 19:56 < minto> It might even take me a while. I can only the sitting behind the computer a few minutes. 19:56 < mnemoc> re 19:56 < mnemoc> minto: do you have WIP? 19:56 < minto> Yesterday I hurt my back. I don't know what it is called in english but it hurts like hell. 19:58 < mnemoc> oh 19:58 < mnemoc> how much rest? 19:58 < minto> I have something that does not work. 19:58 < rxr> wow 19:59 < rxr> just to let the kernel tell me: 19:59 < rxr> Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported. 19:59 < minto> I also have an fix for apache ant 19:59 < rxr> Please use a boot loader program instead . . . 20:00 < mnemoc> 2005-05-09_18:00:24.44849 kern.err: BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [00000001] code: X/2524 20:00 < mnemoc> 2005-05-09_18:00:24.44850 kern.warn: caller is nv_lock_rm+0x11/0x4e [nvidia] 20:00 < mnemoc> 2005-05-09_18:00:24.44851 kern.warn: [] smp_processor_id+0x7b/0x8c 20:00 < mnemoc> i get lot of those since my last kernel update :| 20:01 < CIA-10> msluis * r8740 /trunk/package/java/apache-ant/apache-ant.conf: * Added forgotten set-confopt to apache-ant 20:02 < minto> Gotta lay down now. cu tomorrow (I Hope). 20:02 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050318]"] 20:04 < rxr> cu min 20:04 < rxr> to 20:04 < mnemoc> :) 20:16 < CIA-10> amery * r8741 /branches/2.1/package/java/apache-ant/ (apache-ant.conf apache-ant.desc): * merged 8664,8740 from trunk: updated apache ant (1.6.2 -> 1.6.3), and added missing set_confopt 20:23 < CIA-10> amery * r8742 /branches/2.1/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc: * merged 8733 from trunk: updated postgresql (8.0.1 -> 8.0.2) 20:24 < CIA-10> amery * r8743 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * merged 8737 from trunk: updated gimp (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7) 20:29 < CIA-10> amery * r8744 /trunk/package/java/classpath/workaround-bug-21418.patch: * worked-around classpath to build with buggy gcj (http://gcc.gnu.org/PR21418) 20:44 < CIA-10> amery * r8745 /branches/2.1/package/java/classpath/ (classpath.desc workaround-bug-21418.patch): merged 8668,8744 from trunk: updated gnu classpath (0.14 -> 0.15) and patched to build with buggy gcj 20:50 < CIA-10> amery * r8746 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/asymptote/ (asymptote.cache asymptote.desc): * merged 8647 from trunk: updated asymptote (0.75 -> 0.76) 20:52 < CIA-10> amery * r8747 /trunk/package/network/acx100/postlinux.conf: * fixed acx100 to really install the modules 20:56 < CIA-10> amery * r8748 /trunk/package/network/acx100/ (acx100.desc linux-2.6.11.patch): * updated acx100 (0.2.0pre8-45 -> 0.2.0pre8-56) 20:57 < rxr> oh 20:57 < mnemoc> oh 8747? 20:57 < mnemoc> or oh commits? 20:57 < rxr> the later 20:57 < mnemoc> :) 20:58 < mnemoc> i have a class... bbl 21:05 < rxr> cu 21:24 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 21:25 < rxr> hi veki 21:25 < veki> hi 21:26 < veki> how are you doing 21:27 < veki> i see you were very busy alst night and you have done a lot 21:27 < rxr> I think my kernel was overoptimized due to ccaceh collision - due to runnign a ppro build recently ... :-)( 21:27 * rxr will c later 21:27 < rxr> cu then /me shortly away 21:29 < veki> cu 21:30 < valentin> re 21:31 < valentin> oh ! what is this html lemmings ? how does it work ?? 21:41 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:48 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 21:52 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:54 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 22:19 -!- mtr [~Michael@p54AFADDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 22:49 < rxr> valentin: hi 22:49 < rxr> valentin: if you have details to the html lemmings impl. let me know ... 23:00 -!- veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 23:12 < valentin> hi rxr 23:12 < valentin> it is no java or flash ... 23:12 < valentin> but i do not have the time to investigate it right now 23:17 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.79] has joined #t2 23:20 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.20] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:28 < valentin> bbl 23:48 -!- sparc-kly|U5 [~mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue May 10 00:00:47 2005