--- Log opened Mon May 02 00:00:44 2005 00:05 < rxr> my embedded STL so far is: 00:05 < rxr> Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 1,149 00:05 < rxr> Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 0.23 (2.78) (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05)) 00:05 < rxr> Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 0.31 (3.69) (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38)) 00:05 < rxr> Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 0.75 00:05 < rxr> Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 31,259 00:06 < rxr> n8 all 00:18 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.193.243.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 00:19 < sepp> back running rc1 - insalled from a rc1 iso 00:19 < sepp> intalled 00:19 < sepp> lol 00:19 < sepp> installed 00:21 < sepp> there is a bug in the "bootdisk", i was unable to install on a jfs partition - strange 01:00 < sepp> good night * 01:29 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 01:31 < ojh> Quick question: Does T2 have any wireless LAN drivers included? What adapters are supported out of the box? 02:10 < ojh> Anyone have any advice on restoring a broken partition table? I can list all partitions in Linux fdisk but the start up dies with "Invalid Partition Table" 02:20 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 02:26 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.67] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 03:40 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:00 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 04:08 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:17 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.9.201] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:22 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 04:26 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:29 < ojh> Any one on who can help with an install problem? 06:00 -!- kgb [~amery@pc-120-204-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #t2 06:00 < kgb> hi 06:30 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-96-152.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 06:45 -!- kgb [~amery@pc-120-204-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit ["leaving"] 07:03 -!- kgb [~amery@pc-120-204-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #t2 07:22 < kgb> *yawn* 07:47 -!- kgb is now known as kgb|detached 07:47 -!- kgb|detached is now known as kgb 07:49 -!- kgb [~amery@pc-120-204-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit ["leaving"] 07:56 < CIA-9> amery * r8620 /branches/2.1/package/network/jabberd/jabberd.conf: * merged 8615 from trunk: fixed jabberd (bug #20) by using package --with-extra-xx options. 07:56 < CIA-9> amery * r8621 /branches/2.1/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.12.0 -> 1.12.1) 08:52 < rxr> re 09:31 < rxr> new qemu is out 09:31 * rxr updating soon 09:43 < CIA-9> rene * r8622 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * updated qemu (0.6.1 -> 0.7.0) 09:51 < CIA-9> rene * r8623 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.conf: 09:51 < CIA-9> * do not artificially limit the supported emulation targets, let's 09:51 < CIA-9> qemu choose whats available for the platform 10:28 < rxr> hey ! - my Embedded STL now starts to be able to execute the first half of my linux module mathcing ,-) 10:30 < CIA-9> rene * r8624 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (qemu.cache qemu.conf): 10:30 < CIA-9> * inserted greatly increased package size and build time into qemu.cache 10:30 < CIA-9> * removed commented out configuration code permanently ... 10:31 < valentin> moin 10:41 < rxr> hi valentin 10:42 * rxr now going to implement what I need from the std::vector 10:42 < rxr> and std::find 10:42 < rxr> then the hotplug++ code should be fully functional 10:45 < rxr> oh - I altready implemented std::find ... - so only std::vector missing 10:49 < valentin> haha: pentagon published a "secret" m$ word genereated pdf document, where they placed black bars over some classified content. 10:50 < valentin> but they exported it to pdf containing all ms word metadata, including the text under the bars ... 10:51 < rxr> cool 10:51 < rxr> and - s.th. interesting ? 10:52 < valentin> see heise.de 10:53 < valentin> typical ms-user-idiots 10:53 < valentin> i cannot see it in my wysiwyg so nobody can see it ... 11:42 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 11:44 < minto> Hi 12:04 < rxr> hi minto 12:05 < minto> rxr: How the magazine Live CD doing? 12:07 < rxr> ouh - writing an embedded STL for use with udev for the boot process ... 12:07 < rxr> reinventing the wheel - as usual ,-) 12:07 < minto> As long as the wheel improves is should not be a waste of time. 12:08 < sepp> hi all 12:08 < minto> hi sepp 12:08 < sepp> hi minto 12:35 < CIA-9> lars * r8625 /branches/2.1/package/x86/microcode_ctl/microcode.init: 12:35 < CIA-9> * Fixed microcode.init by removing unsupported option -i 12:35 < CIA-9> and by creating a symlink from /dev/cpu/microcode to 12:35 < CIA-9> /dev/misc/microcode. 12:53 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0505/37830.html 13:20 -!- tilix [~tilix@pppoe34.bol.bg] has joined #t2 13:29 -!- mipe [~mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 13:31 < mipe> anyone runned grub lately? with the latest ones from 2.1 branch? 13:32 < mipe> Starting program: /usr/sbin/grub --version 13:32 < mipe> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 13:32 < mipe> 0x0805bb90 in __libc_start_main () 13:32 < mipe> (gdb) bt 13:32 < mipe> #0 0x0805bb90 in __libc_start_main () 13:33 < mipe> #1 0x0804812a in _start () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/elf/start.S:113 13:37 < rxr> mipe: AFAIC grub should be linked 32bit - I heared due to internal frickeling it does only work in 32bit right now ... 13:39 < mipe> it is linked with 32bit, last time i tested, it segfaulted on for searching devices or so. grub --version has alway worked for me, until now 13:44 < rxr> hm 13:44 < rxr> mipe: when I have a amd64 box I help debugging ,-)( 13:44 < mipe> :) 13:45 < mipe> good news is that bootdisk target works for amd64 now too 13:46 < rxr> it boots and installs ? 13:50 < mipe> yep,well expect for the grub part 13:50 < mipe> on postinstall 13:54 < rxr> ouhm 13:54 < rxr> I think you'll find that one as well ,-) 13:55 < mipe> yep have to start debugging after final exams and before work starts so... btw. when is next iso release done? 14:12 -!- tilix [~tilix@pppoe34.bol.bg] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:30 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.193.243.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:47 -!- _jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 14:47 < _jeru> hi all 14:48 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru 15:11 -!- veki [~veki@bunuel-cpe-54.nat-pool.bgd.sbb.co.yu] has joined #t2 15:21 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.59] has joined #t2 15:41 < mipe> mnemoc: do you still run the regressionreport site? 15:47 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178133172.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:47 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 15:47 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 15:47 [Users #t2] 15:47 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ veki] 15:47 [ CIA-9 ] [ minto] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ] 15:47 [ jeru ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ valentin] 15:47 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 15:47 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 15:47 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 15:58 -!- rxr [~rene@e178151218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:06 -!- You're now known as rxr 16:07 < mipe> hmm,this is nice... skas pre1 patch makes strace to fail building 16:37 < mnemoc> moin 16:37 < rxr> moin mnemoc 16:38 < jeru> hi mnemoc 16:38 < jeru> hi rxr 16:38 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jeru 16:42 < CIA-9> chris * r8627 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.desc: * updated snort (2.3.2 -> 2.3.3) 16:46 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:50 < rxr> mnemoc: do you merge lars' microcode fix back, or should I? 16:52 < mnemoc> can you? :) 16:54 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@64.237.128.15] has joined #t2 16:56 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess i'll have to do a re-sync.... i'll merge lars' 17:06 < rxr> ok 17:07 < mnemoc> .oO( will my mirror be listed for 2.2.0-alpha some day? )o 17:16 < rxr> URL ? 17:31 < jeru> ok ... have to go away for some time .... cu later 17:31 -!- jeru [~jeru@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has left #t2 [] 17:37 -!- veki [~veki@bunuel-cpe-54.nat-pool.bgd.sbb.co.yu] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 17:47 < valentin> party all night, present and hack all day... ? ;-) 17:47 < valentin> ^- fake's answer to what to do on the linuxtag 17:48 < rxr> ha ha ha he he he - 17:48 < rxr> *lol* 17:48 < valentin> to bad they usualy confuse night and day 17:50 < rxr> what is this "day" anyway ... ? 17:51 < valentin> well, it would be nice to present t2 at klt, but i think there will be trouble then ... 17:56 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:00 < rxr> I guess is too late to sign anyway 18:00 < rxr> and I do not want to spare money on the journey ... 18:00 < rxr> oh my god 18:00 < rxr> I see the kde 3.4 log out window for the first time 18:01 < rxr> WE NEED TO REPLACE THIS UGLY DRAGON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 18:05 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/kde-3.4-ugly-logout.png 18:17 < valentin> rxr: nope - you can still register. but i have no time then anyway (and i do not want to be beaten up) 18:18 < valentin> uahg - i hate that stupid kde dragon, too 18:18 < valentin> tabaluga :/ 18:18 < rxr> well - normally I do not find it too annoying 18:19 < rxr> but that that moon hanging dragon is just pure uglz 18:19 < valentin> at least the rendered version looks much better than the previous drawn version 18:27 < valentin> i drive home now, cu later 18:27 < rxr> cu 18:50 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFCB6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 18:50 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru 18:50 < jeru> re hi 18:52 < rxr> hi jeru 18:52 < jeru> hi rxr 18:55 < rxr> at least our var_append helper could be written more efficiently ... 18:55 < rxr> example: 18:55 < rxr> $x${x:+:}/opt/kde 18:56 < rxr> /bla:/opt/kde 18:56 < rxr> unset x 18:56 < rxr> echo $x${x:+:}/opt/kde 18:56 < rxr> /opt/kde 19:02 < jeru> mipe: do you have solved the skas/strace issue ? 19:03 < mipe> jeru: not fixed but i know why it does that... skas patches ptrace.h but forgots to add compat.h too. 19:03 < jeru> I just ask because I will update the skas3 patch soon 19:04 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:04 < mipe> i tryed the pre patch2 but it had the same problem 19:06 * mipe is cursing grub 19:06 < jeru> mipe: ohh! but anyway I should update to skas pre2 patch 19:07 < mipe> jeru: yep,i'll fix it for x86-64,once i'm done with grub 19:07 < jeru> ok :) 19:07 < mipe> i cant even get usable backtrace from it :( 19:10 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@64.237.128.15] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:13 < mipe> http://www.coyotegulch.com/reviews/gcc4/index.html 19:14 < mipe> ^--- gcc 4 review 19:14 < rxr> yep - you saw my benchmark results ? 19:15 < mipe> hmmm, i think i did... can you regive me the url,i'll bookmark it for later... i need to read for exams 19:16 < mipe> where the results same kind? 19:16 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/hidden/gcc-article/2005-gcc-4.0/ 19:16 < rxr> yep - 4.0 is not yet really there 19:16 < rxr> but the new infrastructure is of course very promossing 19:17 < rxr> I wrote an in-depth text - but it is german and for a newspaper .. 19:17 < rxr> ^W magazine ... 19:31 < jeru> rxr: btw, while observing my working copy ... I found an open issue -> squashfs ;) 19:32 < rxr> what is open with it ,-) 19:48 < CIA-9> chris * r8632 /trunk/package/base/uml_utilities/uml_utilities.desc: * updated skas patch (2.6.11-v9-pre1 -> 2.6.11-v9-pre2) 19:52 < mnemoc> re 19:53 < jeru> hi mnemoc 19:53 < mnemoc> rxr: http://t2.geeks.cl/mirror/2.2.0-alpha :) 19:53 < jeru> mnemoc: btw, i will update vserver today 19:54 < mnemoc> jeru: do what ever you want on trunk. test it and tell me what to merge after that :) 19:56 < jeru> mnemoc: roger ;) 19:56 < mnemoc> :) 19:57 < jeru> I've to do some non CSS/CMS stuff today for relaxing ;) 19:57 < mnemoc> jeru: as far as you keep al patches working against the same kernel version 19:58 < mnemoc> jeru: :) 19:58 < mnemoc> jeru: when will you finish w2.t2p.o? 20:00 < jeru> mnemoc: I'm experimenting with some alternative templates to get no problems with all the optional addons like the tracker 20:00 < jeru> I've created a fully modular pagetemplate 20:00 < mnemoc> rxr: do we want gnome-build package? 20:00 < mnemoc> jeru: how can i steal it? 20:01 < jeru> mnemoc: you can't for now ;) 20:01 < mnemoc> :( 20:02 < jeru> you'll need Zope3 20:02 < mnemoc> o_O 20:07 < mnemoc> rxr: are qemu changes tested? 20:21 -!- mipe [~mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:21 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - on x86 and powerpc 20:22 < rxr> == 19:34:41 =[5]=> Building kde/kdelibs [3.4.0 2.2.0-alpha]. 20:22 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 98.70% (379 hits, 5 misses) 20:22 < rxr> == 05/02/05 19:57:11 =[5]=> Finished building package kdelibs. 20:28 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 20:28 < mnemoc> rxr: on 8584 you said you will add some 'touch' to detect packages updating database on build 20:39 < CIA-9> chris * r8633 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver patch (2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5 -> 2.6.11.7-2.0-pre3) 20:44 < rxr> mnemoc: gnome-build what ? 20:44 < mnemoc> rxr: it's a package we have 20:45 < mnemoc> rxr: looks ancient and abandoned 20:45 < rxr> rm it from trunk if your reference .cache have no entry for it ... 20:46 < mnemoc> rxr: it's broken :) 20:46 < rxr> ah - rm it ... 20:46 < rxr> update-mime-databas touches many files 20:46 < rxr> I think we just leave it as it is right now - and if more than one packages runs it we get shared files ... 20:47 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, and we know when $foo does update-{mime,desktop}-database due to the 'shares' it produce 20:47 < rxr> so - I think kde and gnome should mostly work now out of the box 20:47 < rxr> mnemoc: ack 20:48 < mnemoc> mnemoc: if share-mime-crap package doesn't create the files, $foo will do update-{mime,desktop}-database and we wont notice it 20:50 < rxr> yes - but we can not do much 20:50 < rxr> it is quite complex and cretaes many files 20:50 < rxr> we could touch a few - maybe I touch "some main one" ... 20:51 < mnemoc> i think there is one main file we could touch 20:51 < rxr> which 20:51 < rxr> usr/share/mime/XMLnamespaces ? 20:51 < mnemoc> iirc yes 20:56 < rxr> mnemoc: can you merge all of the XDG and postinstall changes into 2.1, please? 20:56 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm rebuilding (testing) 20:57 < rxr> there is a few more stuff to come .. 20:57 < mnemoc> rxr: finish it and i do one big merge 20:58 < CIA-9> rene * r8634 /trunk/package/x11/shared-mime-info/ (shared-mime-info.desc shared-mime-info.postinstall): * added a shared-mime-info.postinstall 21:00 < mnemoc> xorg.postinstall is part of this fix? 21:02 < rxr> xorg is mosty a feature wish 21:02 < rxr> not to run it on cron all the time - just only when new packages got installed 21:03 < rxr> the others are the fixes 21:03 < rxr> but you can just pull all of them ... 21:03 < mnemoc> ok 21:03 < mnemoc> sure, but i want an 'atomic' commit :) 21:03 < rxr> one more - second 21:03 < rxr> btw. postinstall get automatically installed these days ? 21:04 < mnemoc> rxr: yes 21:04 < mnemoc> rxr: misc/tail has a module for it 21:04 < rxr> ah misc tali 21:04 < rxr> I wondered where it is lurking these days 21:04 < mnemoc> T2 Automatized Installing Language 21:05 < mnemoc> which is vaporware 21:05 < mnemoc> but installation of .cron and .postinstalls fit there :) 21:09 < rxr> mnemoc: all fine: 21:09 < rxr> set ${XDG_DATA_DIRS//:/ } 21:09 < rxr> for dir; do echo "Caching icons for GNOME in $dir/icons/* ..." gtk-update-icon-cache $dir/icons/*/ 21:09 < rxr> done 21:09 < rxr> ? 21:10 < mnemoc> that's your realm :) 21:10 < rxr> iterate over the XDG_DATA_DIRS and execute the gtk-fluff-icon-cache for $x/icons/*/ of them ,-) 21:10 < rxr> as gtk+ postinstall script 21:10 < rxr> gnome likes that ... 21:11 < mnemoc> :) 21:12 < rxr> ok - thats it for now -v 21:12 < mnemoc> rxr: is the bug solved with 8634 or i have to wait for 8635? 21:13 < mnemoc> 36* 21:18 < rxr> I already committed 36 21:18 < rxr> Adding gtk+/gtk-icon-cache.postinstall 21:18 < rxr> Transmitting file data . 21:18 < rxr> Committed revision 8636. 21:19 < rxr> aside that I think we do not run the postinstall scripts yet the stuff should be quite fine now 21:19 < mnemoc> but that is not related with share-mime 21:19 < rxr> nope 21:19 < rxr> but should also go into stable 21:19 < mnemoc> sure 21:19 < rxr> merge it as KDE and GNOME desktop environment "made working" 21:19 < rxr> (damn XDG freedesktop.org fluff) 21:22 < rxr> package/base/sysfiles# vi stone_mod_setup.sh 21:22 < rxr> line 115 21:23 < rxr> # source postinstall scripts added by misc packages 21:23 < rxr> for x in ${SETUPD}/setup_*.sh ; do 21:23 < rxr> [ -f $x ] && . $x 21:23 < rxr> done 21:23 < rxr> ah - no sorry 21:23 < rxr> me stupid 21:23 < rxr> hm - or not 21:23 < rxr> we do not have those setup_*.sh? 21:23 < rxr> right?? 21:23 < rxr> I can remove this??? 21:24 < mnemoc> i think only socklog use it 21:24 < rxr> ok - so leave it for now 21:26 < rxr> I add this, ok? 21:26 < rxr> # run the postinstall scripts right now 21:26 < rxr> for x in /etc/postinstall.d/* ; do 21:26 < rxr> [ -f $x ] || continue 21:26 < rxr> echo "Running $x ..." 21:26 < rxr> $x 21:26 < rxr> done 21:26 < mnemoc> i hate that location 21:26 < rxr> mnemoc: for 2.1 is is the location 21:26 < mnemoc> but yes 21:26 < rxr> what we redesign on 2.2 is another thing ... 21:26 < mnemoc> :) 21:26 < mnemoc> ok 21:27 < rxr> or do you just mean /etc/postinstall.d ? 21:27 < rxr> well - now is your change to change it ... 21:27 < mnemoc> to where? 21:27 < mnemoc> var/adm is not the place neither 21:28 < mnemoc> usr/lib/ ? 21:28 < rxr> lib is for binaries 21:28 < rxr> share is for arch independant data files .. 21:28 < rxr> or maybe lib-exec 21:28 < rxr> is anyone using socklog ? 21:28 < mnemoc> i do 21:29 < mnemoc> on all my machines 21:29 < rxr> you can easily port it to postinstall ? so I can remove the setup_* line from stone, right ? 21:30 < mnemoc> do it on trunk 21:30 < mnemoc> i fix socklog and merge 21:31 < rxr> done 21:31 < rxr> is my mail server or CIA lagging ... 21:32 < rxr> Committed revision 8639. 21:32 * rxr shortly off ... 21:32 < rxr> cu 21:40 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.215.189.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:40 < sepp> hi all 21:41 < jeru> hi sepp 21:43 < sepp> i want to file a bug report, can i get write access for www2 ? 22:07 < mnemoc> jeru is hidding 22:08 < jeru> why not ;) 22:08 < jeru> pong 22:09 < mnemoc> o_O 22:10 < rxr> re 22:10 < jeru> hi rxr 22:10 < rxr> so - after the tiny walk ... 22:10 < rxr> /we evening dinner - so cu soon ,-) 22:11 < jeru> rxr: this was indeed a short visit :) 22:12 < jeru> how long does it take to buld ooo ? 22:12 < rxr> on my athlon 7h 22:12 < mnemoc> jeru: 7 hours 22:12 < sepp> 5.5h on my box 22:12 < rxr> on my iBook 19h (or so) 22:12 < rxr> sepp: specs ? 22:13 < jeru> sepp: not on your render farm ;) 22:13 < mnemoc> rxr: i installed .gem on my notebook :) 22:13 < sepp> no on a athlon 3000+ 22:13 < sepp> without ccache 22:13 < jeru> mnemoc: where can I grab a gem ? 22:13 < mnemoc> jeru: p4? 22:14 < jeru> yep :) 22:14 < mnemoc> minute 22:14 < jeru> mnemoc: please make me happy :D 22:14 < mnemoc> o_O 22:14 < jeru> don't want to build ooo now 22:15 < sepp> 12:06:44 =[5]=> Building office/ooo [1.9-m90 2.1.0-rc1]. 22:15 < sepp> 17:19:40 =[5]=> Finished building package ooo. 22:15 < jeru> sepp: nice :) 22:16 < valentin> re 22:16 < jeru> hi valentin 22:16 < valentin> hi jeru :) 22:19 < valentin> jeru: you were not "here" yesterday, that makes you a subject ... ,) 22:19 < jeru> valentin: oh! 22:20 < jeru> valentin: I had to do some other things than t2 on weekend ... sorry ;) 22:20 < valentin> nevermind 22:22 < jeru> valentin: but I did some minor things regarding the upcoming site 22:23 < jeru> valentin: if you add content to the site please use RestructeredText markup as you did with you quickstart doc ;) 22:23 < valentin> ok 22:25 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:27 < jeru> valentin: the truth is ... I'll kick out plone in favour of a "pure" Zope3 solution. It will not have so many features like Plone but it will be more flexible. And I think that will also fit the T2 philosophy ;) 22:29 < jeru> valentin: I created a tableless CSS pagetemplate, where we can define "slots" which will be "filled" with the specified content. 22:30 < jeru> valentin: so we can have a nice graphical layout with dynamic content 22:31 < sepp> jeru: still no mail, maybe plone does not likes dots ? 22:31 < jeru> sepp: why you're waiting for mail ? 22:31 < jeru> go to site and log in ;) 22:32 < jeru> sepp: I think you've everything to log in 22:32 < sepp> ok, i thought i need to wait for a "click here to activate mail" ... 22:33 < jeru> nope 22:33 < jeru> sepp: btw, this plone installation has no mail feature enabled 22:34 < jeru> sepp: how big is the ooo gem ? 22:35 < sepp> my athlon-xp version is 73359K big 22:36 < jeru> oh ok! than I will block mnemocs line for some time 22:37 < sepp> it has some strange deps, like mozilla and some gnome crap 22:38 < jeru> sepp: "advanced code borrowing" I guess 22:46 < sepp> ok i changed the password ;) 22:52 < sepp> hmm i too lazy right now, i had a power supply failure today, i will file the bug report tomorrow ... 22:52 < rxr> re 22:52 < sepp> good night all :) 22:58 < rxr> cu sepp 22:59 -!- mtr_ [~michael@p54AFB1DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 22:59 < valentin> cu sepp 23:00 < valentin> jeru: what is with the content we created ? 23:07 -!- mtr [~michael@p54AFB1A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:08 < rxr> CMS are fun ,-) 23:08 < rxr> I know why I stopped investing time in those for now ... 23:08 < rxr> so - cu people need a np 23:08 < rxr> nap even 23:08 < rxr> cu very early in the morning - this time for sure - nede yet another article to deliver sometime at lunch I hope ... 23:08 * rxr typing down a linux embedded and T2 overview like crazzy ... 23:08 < rxr> cu 23:11 < valentin> cu rxr 23:36 < jeru> valentin: the content will be migrated smoothly ... don't worry 23:44 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Tue May 03 00:00:45 2005