T2 IRC Log: 2005-05-02

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--- Log opened Mon May 02 00:00:44 2005
00:05 < rxr> my embedded STL so far is:
00:05 < rxr> Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 1,149
00:05 < rxr> Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 0.23 (2.78) (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))
00:05 < rxr> Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 0.31 (3.69) (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))
00:05 < rxr> Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 0.75
00:05 < rxr> Total Estimated Cost to Develop = $ 31,259
00:06 < rxr> n8 all
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00:19 < sepp> back running rc1 - insalled from a rc1 iso
00:19 < sepp> intalled
00:19 < sepp> lol
00:19 < sepp> installed
00:21 < sepp> there is a bug in the "bootdisk", i was unable to install on a jfs partition - strange
01:00 < sepp> good night *
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01:31 < ojh> Quick question: Does T2 have any wireless LAN drivers included? What adapters are supported out of the box?
02:10 < ojh> Anyone have any advice on restoring a broken partition table? I can list all partitions in Linux fdisk but the start up dies with "Invalid Partition Table"
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04:29 < ojh> Any one on who can help with an install problem?
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06:00 < kgb> hi
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07:22 < kgb> *yawn*
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07:56 < CIA-9> amery * r8620 /branches/2.1/package/network/jabberd/jabberd.conf: * merged 8615 from trunk: fixed jabberd (bug #20) by using package --with-extra-xx options.
07:56 < CIA-9> amery * r8621 /branches/2.1/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.12.0 -> 1.12.1)
08:52 < rxr> re
09:31 < rxr> new qemu is out
09:31 * rxr updating soon
09:43 < CIA-9> rene * r8622 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * updated qemu (0.6.1 -> 0.7.0)
09:51 < CIA-9> rene * r8623 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.conf:
09:51 < CIA-9> * do not artificially limit the supported emulation targets, let's
09:51 < CIA-9> qemu choose whats available for the platform
10:28 < rxr> hey ! - my Embedded STL now starts to be able to execute the first half of my linux module mathcing ,-)
10:30 < CIA-9> rene * r8624 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (qemu.cache qemu.conf):
10:30 < CIA-9> * inserted greatly increased package size and build time into qemu.cache
10:30 < CIA-9> * removed commented out configuration code permanently ...
10:31 < valentin> moin
10:41 < rxr> hi valentin
10:42 * rxr now going to implement what I need from the std::vector
10:42 < rxr> and std::find
10:42 < rxr> then the hotplug++ code should be fully functional
10:45 < rxr> oh - I altready implemented std::find ... - so only std::vector missing
10:49 < valentin> haha: pentagon published a "secret" m$ word genereated pdf document, where they placed black bars over some classified content.
10:50 < valentin> but they exported it to pdf containing all ms word metadata, including the text under the bars ...
10:51 < rxr> cool
10:51 < rxr> and - s.th. interesting ?
10:52 < valentin> see heise.de
10:53 < valentin> typical ms-user-idiots
10:53 < valentin> i cannot see it in my wysiwyg so nobody can see it ...
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11:44 < minto> Hi
12:04 < rxr> hi minto
12:05 < minto> rxr: How the magazine Live CD doing?
12:07 < rxr> ouh - writing an embedded STL for use with udev for the boot process ...
12:07 < rxr> reinventing the wheel - as usual ,-)
12:07 < minto> As long as the wheel improves is should not be a waste of time.
12:08 < sepp> hi all
12:08 < minto> hi sepp
12:08 < sepp> hi minto
12:35 < CIA-9> lars * r8625 /branches/2.1/package/x86/microcode_ctl/microcode.init:
12:35 < CIA-9> * Fixed microcode.init by removing unsupported option -i
12:35 < CIA-9> and by creating a symlink from /dev/cpu/microcode to
12:35 < CIA-9> /dev/misc/microcode.
12:53 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0505/37830.html
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13:31 < mipe> anyone runned grub lately? with the latest ones from 2.1 branch?
13:32 < mipe> Starting program: /usr/sbin/grub --version
13:32 < mipe> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
13:32 < mipe> 0x0805bb90 in __libc_start_main ()
13:32 < mipe> (gdb) bt
13:32 < mipe> #0 0x0805bb90 in __libc_start_main ()
13:33 < mipe> #1 0x0804812a in _start () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/elf/start.S:113
13:37 < rxr> mipe: AFAIC grub should be linked 32bit - I heared due to internal frickeling it does only work in 32bit right now ...
13:39 < mipe> it is linked with 32bit, last time i tested, it segfaulted on for searching devices or so. grub --version has alway worked for me, until now
13:44 < rxr> hm
13:44 < rxr> mipe: when I have a amd64 box I help debugging ,-)(
13:44 < mipe> :)
13:45 < mipe> good news is that bootdisk target works for amd64 now too
13:46 < rxr> it boots and installs ?
13:50 < mipe> yep,well expect for the grub part
13:50 < mipe> on postinstall
13:54 < rxr> ouhm
13:54 < rxr> I think you'll find that one as well ,-)
13:55 < mipe> yep have to start debugging after final exams and before work starts so... btw. when is next iso release done?
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14:47 < _jeru> hi all
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15:41 < mipe> mnemoc: do you still run the regressionreport site?
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15:47 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
15:47 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005]
15:47 [Users #t2]
15:47 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ veki]
15:47 [ CIA-9 ] [ minto] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ]
15:47 [ jeru ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ valentin]
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16:07 < mipe> hmm,this is nice... skas pre1 patch makes strace to fail building
16:37 < mnemoc> moin
16:37 < rxr> moin mnemoc
16:38 < jeru> hi mnemoc
16:38 < jeru> hi rxr
16:38 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jeru
16:42 < CIA-9> chris * r8627 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.desc: * updated snort (2.3.2 -> 2.3.3)
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16:50 < rxr> mnemoc: do you merge lars' microcode fix back, or should I?
16:52 < mnemoc> can you? :)
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16:56 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess i'll have to do a re-sync.... i'll merge lars'
17:06 < rxr> ok
17:07 < mnemoc> .oO( will my mirror be listed for 2.2.0-alpha some day? )o
17:16 < rxr> URL ?
17:31 < jeru> ok ... have to go away for some time .... cu later
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17:47 < valentin> party all night, present and hack all day... ? ;-)
17:47 < valentin> ^- fake's answer to what to do on the linuxtag
17:48 < rxr> ha ha ha he he he -
17:48 < rxr> *lol*
17:48 < valentin> to bad they usualy confuse night and day
17:50 < rxr> what is this "day" anyway ... ?
17:51 < valentin> well, it would be nice to present t2 at klt, but i think there will be trouble then ...
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18:00 < rxr> I guess is too late to sign anyway
18:00 < rxr> and I do not want to spare money on the journey ...
18:00 < rxr> oh my god
18:00 < rxr> I see the kde 3.4 log out window for the first time
18:01 < rxr> WE NEED TO REPLACE THIS UGLY DRAGON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:05 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/kde-3.4-ugly-logout.png
18:17 < valentin> rxr: nope - you can still register. but i have no time then anyway (and i do not want to be beaten up)
18:18 < valentin> uahg - i hate that stupid kde dragon, too
18:18 < valentin> tabaluga :/
18:18 < rxr> well - normally I do not find it too annoying
18:19 < rxr> but that that moon hanging dragon is just pure uglz
18:19 < valentin> at least the rendered version looks much better than the previous drawn version
18:27 < valentin> i drive home now, cu later
18:27 < rxr> cu
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18:50 < jeru> re hi
18:52 < rxr> hi jeru
18:52 < jeru> hi rxr
18:55 < rxr> at least our var_append helper could be written more efficiently ...
18:55 < rxr> example:
18:55 < rxr> $x${x:+:}/opt/kde
18:56 < rxr> /bla:/opt/kde
18:56 < rxr> unset x
18:56 < rxr> echo $x${x:+:}/opt/kde
18:56 < rxr> /opt/kde
19:02 < jeru> mipe: do you have solved the skas/strace issue ?
19:03 < mipe> jeru: not fixed but i know why it does that... skas patches ptrace.h but forgots to add compat.h too.
19:03 < jeru> I just ask because I will update the skas3 patch soon
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19:04 < mipe> i tryed the pre patch2 but it had the same problem
19:06 * mipe is cursing grub
19:06 < jeru> mipe: ohh! but anyway I should update to skas pre2 patch
19:07 < mipe> jeru: yep,i'll fix it for x86-64,once i'm done with grub
19:07 < jeru> ok :)
19:07 < mipe> i cant even get usable backtrace from it :(
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19:13 < mipe> http://www.coyotegulch.com/reviews/gcc4/index.html
19:14 < mipe> ^--- gcc 4 review
19:14 < rxr> yep - you saw my benchmark results ?
19:15 < mipe> hmmm, i think i did... can you regive me the url,i'll bookmark it for later... i need to read for exams
19:16 < mipe> where the results same kind?
19:16 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/hidden/gcc-article/2005-gcc-4.0/
19:16 < rxr> yep - 4.0 is not yet really there
19:16 < rxr> but the new infrastructure is of course very promossing
19:17 < rxr> I wrote an in-depth text - but it is german and for a newspaper ..
19:17 < rxr> ^W magazine ...
19:31 < jeru> rxr: btw, while observing my working copy ... I found an open issue -> squashfs ;)
19:32 < rxr> what is open with it ,-)
19:48 < CIA-9> chris * r8632 /trunk/package/base/uml_utilities/uml_utilities.desc: * updated skas patch (2.6.11-v9-pre1 -> 2.6.11-v9-pre2)
19:52 < mnemoc> re
19:53 < jeru> hi mnemoc
19:53 < mnemoc> rxr: http://t2.geeks.cl/mirror/2.2.0-alpha :)
19:53 < jeru> mnemoc: btw, i will update vserver today
19:54 < mnemoc> jeru: do what ever you want on trunk. test it and tell me what to merge after that :)
19:56 < jeru> mnemoc: roger ;)
19:56 < mnemoc> :)
19:57 < jeru> I've to do some non CSS/CMS stuff today for relaxing ;)
19:57 < mnemoc> jeru: as far as you keep al patches working against the same kernel version
19:58 < mnemoc> jeru: :)
19:58 < mnemoc> jeru: when will you finish w2.t2p.o?
20:00 < jeru> mnemoc: I'm experimenting with some alternative templates to get no problems with all the optional addons like the tracker
20:00 < jeru> I've created a fully modular pagetemplate
20:00 < mnemoc> rxr: do we want gnome-build package?
20:00 < mnemoc> jeru: how can i steal it?
20:01 < jeru> mnemoc: you can't for now ;)
20:01 < mnemoc> :(
20:02 < jeru> you'll need Zope3
20:02 < mnemoc> o_O
20:07 < mnemoc> rxr: are qemu changes tested?
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20:21 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - on x86 and powerpc
20:22 < rxr> == 19:34:41 =[5]=> Building kde/kdelibs [3.4.0 2.2.0-alpha].
20:22 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 98.70% (379 hits, 5 misses)
20:22 < rxr> == 05/02/05 19:57:11 =[5]=> Finished building package kdelibs.
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20:28 < mnemoc> rxr: on 8584 you said you will add some 'touch' to detect packages updating database on build
20:39 < CIA-9> chris * r8633 /trunk/package/security/vserver/vserver.desc: * updated vserver patch (2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5 -> 2.6.11.7-2.0-pre3)
20:44 < rxr> mnemoc: gnome-build what ?
20:44 < mnemoc> rxr: it's a package we have
20:45 < mnemoc> rxr: looks ancient and abandoned
20:45 < rxr> rm it from trunk if your reference .cache have no entry for it ...
20:46 < mnemoc> rxr: it's broken :)
20:46 < rxr> ah - rm it ...
20:46 < rxr> update-mime-databas touches many files
20:46 < rxr> I think we just leave it as it is right now - and if more than one packages runs it we get shared files ...
20:47 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, and we know when $foo does update-{mime,desktop}-database due to the 'shares' it produce
20:47 < rxr> so - I think kde and gnome should mostly work now out of the box
20:47 < rxr> mnemoc: ack
20:48 < mnemoc> mnemoc: if share-mime-crap package doesn't create the files, $foo will do update-{mime,desktop}-database and we wont notice it
20:50 < rxr> yes - but we can not do much
20:50 < rxr> it is quite complex and cretaes many files
20:50 < rxr> we could touch a few - maybe I touch "some main one" ...
20:51 < mnemoc> i think there is one main file we could touch
20:51 < rxr> which
20:51 < rxr> usr/share/mime/XMLnamespaces ?
20:51 < mnemoc> iirc yes
20:56 < rxr> mnemoc: can you merge all of the XDG and postinstall changes into 2.1, please?
20:56 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm rebuilding (testing)
20:57 < rxr> there is a few more stuff to come ..
20:57 < mnemoc> rxr: finish it and i do one big merge
20:58 < CIA-9> rene * r8634 /trunk/package/x11/shared-mime-info/ (shared-mime-info.desc shared-mime-info.postinstall): * added a shared-mime-info.postinstall
21:00 < mnemoc> xorg.postinstall is part of this fix?
21:02 < rxr> xorg is mosty a feature wish
21:02 < rxr> not to run it on cron all the time - just only when new packages got installed
21:03 < rxr> the others are the fixes
21:03 < rxr> but you can just pull all of them ...
21:03 < mnemoc> ok
21:03 < mnemoc> sure, but i want an 'atomic' commit :)
21:03 < rxr> one more - second
21:03 < rxr> btw. postinstall get automatically installed these days ?
21:04 < mnemoc> rxr: yes
21:04 < mnemoc> rxr: misc/tail has a module for it
21:04 < rxr> ah misc tali
21:04 < rxr> I wondered where it is lurking these days
21:04 < mnemoc> T2 Automatized Installing Language
21:05 < mnemoc> which is vaporware
21:05 < mnemoc> but installation of .cron and .postinstalls fit there :)
21:09 < rxr> mnemoc: all fine:
21:09 < rxr> set ${XDG_DATA_DIRS//:/ }
21:09 < rxr> for dir; do echo "Caching icons for GNOME in $dir/icons/* ..." gtk-update-icon-cache $dir/icons/*/
21:09 < rxr> done
21:09 < rxr> ?
21:10 < mnemoc> that's your realm :)
21:10 < rxr> iterate over the XDG_DATA_DIRS and execute the gtk-fluff-icon-cache for $x/icons/*/ of them ,-)
21:10 < rxr> as gtk+ postinstall script
21:10 < rxr> gnome likes that ...
21:11 < mnemoc> :)
21:12 < rxr> ok - thats it for now -v
21:12 < mnemoc> rxr: is the bug solved with 8634 or i have to wait for 8635?
21:13 < mnemoc> 36*
21:18 < rxr> I already committed 36
21:18 < rxr> Adding gtk+/gtk-icon-cache.postinstall
21:18 < rxr> Transmitting file data .
21:18 < rxr> Committed revision 8636.
21:19 < rxr> aside that I think we do not run the postinstall scripts yet the stuff should be quite fine now
21:19 < mnemoc> but that is not related with share-mime
21:19 < rxr> nope
21:19 < rxr> but should also go into stable
21:19 < mnemoc> sure
21:19 < rxr> merge it as KDE and GNOME desktop environment "made working"
21:19 < rxr> (damn XDG freedesktop.org fluff)
21:22 < rxr> package/base/sysfiles# vi stone_mod_setup.sh
21:22 < rxr> line 115
21:23 < rxr> # source postinstall scripts added by misc packages
21:23 < rxr> for x in ${SETUPD}/setup_*.sh ; do
21:23 < rxr> [ -f $x ] && . $x
21:23 < rxr> done
21:23 < rxr> ah - no sorry
21:23 < rxr> me stupid
21:23 < rxr> hm - or not
21:23 < rxr> we do not have those setup_*.sh?
21:23 < rxr> right??
21:23 < rxr> I can remove this???
21:24 < mnemoc> i think only socklog use it
21:24 < rxr> ok - so leave it for now
21:26 < rxr> I add this, ok?
21:26 < rxr> # run the postinstall scripts right now
21:26 < rxr> for x in /etc/postinstall.d/* ; do
21:26 < rxr> [ -f $x ] || continue
21:26 < rxr> echo "Running $x ..."
21:26 < rxr> $x
21:26 < rxr> done
21:26 < mnemoc> i hate that location
21:26 < rxr> mnemoc: for 2.1 is is the location
21:26 < mnemoc> but yes
21:26 < rxr> what we redesign on 2.2 is another thing ...
21:26 < mnemoc> :)
21:26 < mnemoc> ok
21:27 < rxr> or do you just mean /etc/postinstall.d ?
21:27 < rxr> well - now is your change to change it ...
21:27 < mnemoc> to where?
21:27 < mnemoc> var/adm is not the place neither
21:28 < mnemoc> usr/lib/ ?
21:28 < rxr> lib is for binaries
21:28 < rxr> share is for arch independant data files ..
21:28 < rxr> or maybe lib-exec
21:28 < rxr> is anyone using socklog ?
21:28 < mnemoc> i do
21:29 < mnemoc> on all my machines
21:29 < rxr> you can easily port it to postinstall ? so I can remove the setup_* line from stone, right ?
21:30 < mnemoc> do it on trunk
21:30 < mnemoc> i fix socklog and merge
21:31 < rxr> done
21:31 < rxr> is my mail server or CIA lagging ...
21:32 < rxr> Committed revision 8639.
21:32 * rxr shortly off ...
21:32 < rxr> cu
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21:40 < sepp> hi all
21:41 < jeru> hi sepp
21:43 < sepp> i want to file a bug report, can i get write access for www2 ?
22:07 < mnemoc> jeru is hidding
22:08 < jeru> why not ;)
22:08 < jeru> pong
22:09 < mnemoc> o_O
22:10 < rxr> re
22:10 < jeru> hi rxr
22:10 < rxr> so - after the tiny walk ...
22:10 < rxr> /we evening dinner - so cu soon ,-)
22:11 < jeru> rxr: this was indeed a short visit :)
22:12 < jeru> how long does it take to buld ooo ?
22:12 < rxr> on my athlon 7h
22:12 < mnemoc> jeru: 7 hours
22:12 < sepp> 5.5h on my box
22:12 < rxr> on my iBook 19h (or so)
22:12 < rxr> sepp: specs ?
22:13 < jeru> sepp: not on your render farm ;)
22:13 < mnemoc> rxr: i installed .gem on my notebook :)
22:13 < sepp> no on a athlon 3000+
22:13 < sepp> without ccache
22:13 < jeru> mnemoc: where can I grab a gem ?
22:13 < mnemoc> jeru: p4?
22:14 < jeru> yep :)
22:14 < mnemoc> minute
22:14 < jeru> mnemoc: please make me happy :D
22:14 < mnemoc> o_O
22:14 < jeru> don't want to build ooo now
22:15 < sepp> 12:06:44 =[5]=> Building office/ooo [1.9-m90 2.1.0-rc1].
22:15 < sepp> 17:19:40 =[5]=> Finished building package ooo.
22:15 < jeru> sepp: nice :)
22:16 < valentin> re
22:16 < jeru> hi valentin
22:16 < valentin> hi jeru :)
22:19 < valentin> jeru: you were not "here" yesterday, that makes you a subject ... ,)
22:19 < jeru> valentin: oh!
22:20 < jeru> valentin: I had to do some other things than t2 on weekend ... sorry ;)
22:20 < valentin> nevermind
22:22 < jeru> valentin: but I did some minor things regarding the upcoming site
22:23 < jeru> valentin: if you add content to the site please use RestructeredText markup as you did with you quickstart doc ;)
22:23 < valentin> ok
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22:27 < jeru> valentin: the truth is ... I'll kick out plone in favour of a "pure" Zope3 solution. It will not have so many features like Plone but it will be more flexible. And I think that will also fit the T2 philosophy ;)
22:29 < jeru> valentin: I created a tableless CSS pagetemplate, where we can define "slots" which will be "filled" with the specified content.
22:30 < jeru> valentin: so we can have a nice graphical layout with dynamic content
22:31 < sepp> jeru: still no mail, maybe plone does not likes dots ?
22:31 < jeru> sepp: why you're waiting for mail ?
22:31 < jeru> go to site and log in ;)
22:32 < jeru> sepp: I think you've everything to log in
22:32 < sepp> ok, i thought i need to wait for a "click here to activate mail" ...
22:33 < jeru> nope
22:33 < jeru> sepp: btw, this plone installation has no mail feature enabled
22:34 < jeru> sepp: how big is the ooo gem ?
22:35 < sepp> my athlon-xp version is 73359K big
22:36 < jeru> oh ok! than I will block mnemocs line for some time
22:37 < sepp> it has some strange deps, like mozilla and some gnome crap
22:38 < jeru> sepp: "advanced code borrowing" I guess
22:46 < sepp> ok i changed the password ;)
22:52 < sepp> hmm i too lazy right now, i had a power supply failure today, i will file the bug report tomorrow ...
22:52 < rxr> re
22:52 < sepp> good night all :)
22:58 < rxr> cu sepp
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22:59 < valentin> cu sepp
23:00 < valentin> jeru: what is with the content we created ?
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23:08 < rxr> CMS are fun ,-)
23:08 < rxr> I know why I stopped investing time in those for now ...
23:08 < rxr> so - cu people need a np
23:08 < rxr> nap even
23:08 < rxr> cu very early in the morning - this time for sure - nede yet another article to deliver sometime at lunch I hope ...
23:08 * rxr typing down a linux embedded and T2 overview like crazzy ...
23:08 < rxr> cu
23:11 < valentin> cu rxr
23:36 < jeru> valentin: the content will be migrated smoothly ... don't worry
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