--- Log opened Wed Mar 30 00:00:17 2005
--- Day changed Wed Mar 30 2005
00:00 < valentin> i seldom read ./ because the folks there gets on my nerves
00:00 < sepp> i hate wxT()
00:00 < rxr> sepp: /me too ...
00:00 < rxr> could you grep the .cache files for wswidgets and try to build those ?
00:01 < rxr> against the utf'less wxwidgets ?
00:01 < rxr> sepp: do you use xmule for testing ?
00:01 < sepp> yes
00:01 < sepp> i use audacity xmule wired
00:01 < sepp> http://bloodshed.net/wired/
00:03 < rxr> interesting ...
00:03 < sepp> i really want to use wired
00:03 < sepp> damn wx unicode crap
00:04 < rxr> sepp: sent the patch for those ,-)
00:04 < rxr> jsaw: awake / around ?
00:05 < sepp> i will test if everything works witout unicode
00:05 < sepp> 1st
00:05 < jsaw> rxr: with half an eye
00:06 < rxr> jsaw: cool
00:06 < rxr> jsaw: do you remeber that unicode stuff in wxwidgets ...
00:06 < jsaw> partially
00:06 < rxr> jsaw: read the next lines - you importet this unstable wxwidgets for s.th. - what was that ?
00:06 < rxr> do you think we could just disable unicode in wxwidgets until that project managed to get utf8 right ?
00:07 < jsaw> which project?
00:07 < jsaw> can you grep the deps, which package uses wxwindows, I do not remember really
00:08 < mnemoc> audacity
00:08 < mnemoc> xmule
00:08 < mnemoc> gnue-*
00:08 < sepp> wired hugin
00:08 < sepp> ont in svn head right now
00:09 < sepp> not
00:09 < mnemoc> amule
00:09 < mnemoc> anjuta
00:09 < mnemoc> bochs!
00:09 < mnemoc> biblestudy
00:09 < mnemoc> wxpython
00:09 < mnemoc> wxmaxima
00:09 < jsaw> wxmaxima and biblestudy
00:09 < rxr> mnemoc: I bet anjuta and bochs are false positives ...
00:10 < jsaw> well, anjuta should support it
00:10 < jsaw> maybe they have to compile something with it
00:10 < mnemoc> as gettext with C# :(
00:11 < mnemoc> i'll have to move mono to stage 3 and rebuild gettext on stage 5 to build last version of lat
00:13 < jsaw> rxr: 00:13 < rxr> do you think we could just disable unicode in wxwidgets until that
00:13 < jsaw> project managed to get utf8 right ?
00:13 < jsaw> rxr: which project do you mean?
00:13 < rxr> audacity and xmule and wired or so ...
00:13 < jsaw> ah, okay, you didn't wxwidgets itself...
00:13 < rxr> unfortunatly yours build with wxwidget - why the normal users audio apps do not ... :-(
00:14 < rxr> well - until wxwidget get's it's ugly macro frickeling right *g*
00:14 < jsaw> so try disabling unicode
00:14 < jsaw> rxr: well, how can you do that differently in a convenient way?
00:15 < sepp> you simply disable --enable-unicode in wxwidgets
00:15 < rxr> jsaw: sepp already wrote the normal apps build then - I hope your science ones continue to build ...
00:15 < jsaw> me too
00:15 < rxr> jsaw: well - the wxwidget ones have been extraordenary ugly ...
00:15 < rxr> macros ...
00:16 < rxr> one could use high level langruage abstraction ...
00:16 < jsaw> rxr: But I mean, that's only "wxT()" that has to be used for every string...
00:16 < rxr> no
00:16 < sepp> no
00:16 < sepp> lol
00:16 < rxr> soem functions don't take it ..
00:16 < sepp> many!!!
00:16 < rxr> okk - many
00:16 < rxr> and copying them is sometimes mess
00:16 < rxr> and many other corner cases ...
00:17 < rxr> I think I tried 2 or 3 hours hacking audacity and xmule to build with it ...
00:17 < rxr> one lonely night some weeks ago ...
00:17 < jsaw> hmm. okay. no unicode.
00:17 < sepp> what i saw - every function that accepted an c string in 2.4 does not work with unicode in 2.5
00:18 < sepp> you noe have to wxT() every c string
00:18 < sepp> now
00:18 < sepp> in calls
00:21 < sepp> i started to patch audacity but i gave up after an 3kb diff
00:23 < mnemoc> what about defining a good cast method _on_ wx2.5's wxString?
00:23 < sepp> wxT() is not the only problem
00:23 < rxr> mnemoc: I tried that to shirk the patch
00:23 < rxr> believe me - I applied 3 hours of real work on it ...
00:23 < mnemoc> uff
00:23 < rxr> I think my diff as way larger than 3kb ... moke liek multiple 10kB
00:24 < sepp> right now wx unicode is really BEEEEEEEP
00:25 < sepp> i greped and saw that i have to change wat to much calls
00:25 < sepp> way*
00:26 < sepp> and i found the same crap in 2 other apps
00:26 < mnemoc> looking into wx25 file list, it wont be hard to install the both
00:27 < mnemoc> and keep wxwidgets24 until all it's dependees get ported to the new thing
00:38 < rxr> sepp: do you send a patch to the list tonight with the wx stuff?
00:38 < rxr> unicode disabling and wired that is?
00:38 < sepp> later
00:38 < sepp> i will go now and dream of wxT()
00:39 < rxr> ok - cu then ,-)
00:39 < rxr> and don't dream too much about that ...
00:39 < sepp> i still have some problems in the apps
00:40 < sepp> but no unicode things
00:41 < sepp> i just updated to wx2.5.4 - i will check the errors tomorrow
00:41 < sepp> I HATE WXWIDGETS
00:42 < sepp> n8
00:42 < mnemoc> n8 sepp
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01:18 < madtux> hi.
01:29 < keinek> hi everybody
01:29 < madtux> PELOTUDO!
01:29 < keinek> :P
01:56 < rxr> oh - a new day
01:56 < rxr> I can morron again how ugly OS X is ...
01:56 < madtux> :)
01:56 < rxr> oh - hi madtux
01:57 < rxr> AAAAAAAAAAARGGGHGHGHG!!!
01:57 < madtux> hallo ren, Wie geht es dir?
01:57 < rxr> i DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THAT !=!=!=!=!
01:57 < rxr> +ikiksdjaf??ioasdjfasoidfj
01:57 < rxr> sadpfgokj anosiefjwae+? 1/4 fgojvsd? 1/ 1/4 fomgj
01:57 < rxr> how can a OS be that damn annoying
01:58 < rxr> do you want to know how many hours I _WASTED_ just to find out that I need to set a /createor ID/ in order to get this peeeeeep OS show my application icon?
01:58 < madtux> tell us
01:58 < rxr> madtux: da ich an OS X sitze nicht so gzut
01:58 < rxr> well - interpret my rant here ..
01:58 < madtux> :)
01:58 < rxr> this osx rises my blood presure to unknown regions ...
01:58 < madtux> rxr, perhaps is time to put it away and load t2 ob the box?
01:59 < rxr> madtux: if it would not be for money I would not even have started to touch osx ...
02:00 < rxr> the only relief: Windows is even magnitudes uglier ...
02:00 < madtux> hehe
02:00 < madtux> :)
02:00 < madtux> great point
02:01 < rxr> ok - Blur - Song 2 - a bit rock to this crap could help ...
02:01 < rxr> so - I have a pretty icon on my OS X Bundle ...
02:01 < rxr> I guess I can release now ...
02:01 < rxr> *g*
02:01 < madtux> hahaha
02:01 < rxr> but I think I'll not call it 0.4 ...
02:02 < rxr> 0.9 should be more reasonable for this "this should soon be what we can ship" ...
02:02 < rxr> that is includes an shiny icon now ...
02:03 < rxr> why the h*ll is the .xml file not updated ...
02:03 < rxr> damn - might it be that I tweaked the XML file for hours when this damn Xcode does s.th. on it's on behind the scene ...
02:03 < madtux> rxr, i see you are having _LOTS_ of fun every single moment u run that osX
02:04 < rxr> madtux: yes - the most fun is dumping t2 patches from the list and apply them from under OSX ...
02:04 < rxr> in /t2 I have svn and co ...
02:04 < rxr> $ echo $PATH
02:04 < rxr> /t2/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
02:04 < rxr> that can make OS X so much mroe usable ...
02:04 < rxr> T2 will have in-system build support for OSX ...
02:05 < rxr> hm - interesting - and I need to mark the driver application - as s.th. else the icon also does not show up ..
02:05 < rxr> interesting crap they coded over there ...
02:06 < rxr> ok - I think I scan from each major application and our own tool - and then off it goes ...
02:08 < rxr> click
02:08 < rxr> nightwish off ..
02:08 < rxr> nothing I can listen to right now ...
02:08 < rxr> the downback of mp3 streams ...
02:08 < rxr> so - guano apes CD ...
02:11 < rxr> madtux: guess how much fun it was to get utf8 chars into the i18n translation files ...
02:11 < rxr> we partly used linux for that since all the osx apps sucked ...
02:11 < rxr> not even the xcode integrated editor sometimes inserted what we typed ...
02:13 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/ExactScan.tiff
02:30 < keinek> hi guys rezound said that need fox-toolkit
02:30 < rxr> yes
02:30 < rxr> we have the package - just fox
02:30 < keinek> but i only found one package for X11 called fox
02:30 < keinek> i was install it
02:30 < keinek> but still dont work
02:30 < keinek> ldconfig meaby?
02:30 < rxr> hm - should work ...
02:31 < keinek> ok i will try
03:06 < rxr> and ?
03:08 < keinek> no
03:08 < keinek> dont work
03:09 < keinek> the log file still said that need fox-toolkit
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03:14 < rxr> damn - is it late as usual ...
03:14 < rxr> so - software release - rxr can crawl into bed ...
03:14 < madtux> n8 ren
03:15 < rxr> n8 madtux!
03:15 < rxr> madtux: have fun
03:15 < keinek> maybe need a dev of fox toolkit
03:16 < rxr> keinek: someone bult rezound here recently ...
03:16 < rxr> maybe ask on the t2 list for advice - I'm sure that should work out ...
03:16 < rxr> but - /me sleeping now - cu alll
03:16 < keinek> cu rxr
03:16 < keinek> and thanks
03:16 < keinek> i try another sound programa ;)
03:16 < keinek> program*
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05:03 < sparc-kly> what is that Mnemosyne Linux
05:03 < sparc-kly> ?
05:04 < sparc-kly> mnemosyne aims to be a modular and extensible target (distribution) for enterprise usage, from desktop to routers and servers. Focused on reliability, scalability and security. ahh ok :D
05:41 < keinek> :)
05:41 < keinek> is the target of mnemoc
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09:43 < Minto> Goodday to you all
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12:13 < sepp> hi
12:13 < Minto> Hi sepp
12:18 < sepp> argh i disabled wxwidgets unicode support wired for example compiles now
12:19 < sepp> but there is an bug in the wx gtk code
12:20 < sepp> argh
12:40 < rxr_> moin
12:40 -!- You're now known as rxr
12:43 < sepp> moin
12:43 < Minto> hi rxr
12:45 < Minto> rxr: I have an X related question. On the mailing list I mentioned xpm. Unfortunately it requires X11 header files just as imlib2_loaders did. Might it be possible that x11 is required at build time but not at runtime?
12:45 < rxr> hm - maybe
12:46 < rxr> I have nto yet looked at x11 less evas
12:46 < Minto> I think evas is not the problem.
12:47 < Minto> I tried to add xpm as a package. Even the no X build options include X11/Xlib.h and X11/Xutil.h.
12:48 < Minto> I think these same includes where used by imlib2_loaders
12:49 < rxr> might very well be possible
12:49 < rxr> does the package build ?
12:50 < Minto> xpm? Not without x11. I also have to create a conf file since xpm does not have autoconf/automake stuff.
12:51 < rxr> Minto: I would hack away the xpm code from imlib_loaders ...
12:51 < rxr> who needs xpm anyway. ... ,-)
12:51 < rxr> I mean hack it away conditionally when you bulid without X
12:52 < Minto> Ohhh! there is not xpm stuff in imlib2_loaders. Read the mailing list you'll understand. I though it might be substitute for x11 stuff.
12:53 < Minto> imlib2_loaders needs Pixmap, which I think is X11 stuff.
12:54 < rxr> hm
12:54 < rxr> mayve ask the e17 people ...
12:55 < Minto> Hmm, xpm does not define Pixmap itself (probably takes it from X11), then I don't need it.
12:55 < Minto> rm -rf xpm
12:56 < Minto> Now I have to install all of xorg just for Pixmap. And when installing xorg .conf file build packages with x11 support.
12:57 < Minto> I meant, other e17 packages will be build with X support.
12:58 < rxr> Minto: maybe ask the 17 people what their intention was on this imlib loader stuff ...
12:58 < rxr> or if they could clean that x11 less part up
12:59 < Minto> I will
13:02 < sepp> oh no my wxwidget has a heisenbug
13:03 < sepp> i rebuild wxw glib gtk with debug symbols - now the bug is gone
13:09 < rxr> .oO
13:10 < sepp> whats ".oO" ?
13:11 < rxr> oh oh ooohhh
13:11 < rxr> as in not good ...
13:11 < sepp> ahh
13:11 < rxr> .oO(that is not sooo good)
13:16 < sparc-kly> = 03:10:41 =[0]=> Building base/binutils [2.15.94.0.2.2 2.1.0-rc1].
13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Parallel build using 4 jobs enabled.
13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Preparing build in src.binutils.1112170240.2586.7f0100
13:16 < sparc-kly> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.out
13:16 < sparc-kly> !> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mubex/t2-trunk/src.bin ..
13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mubex/t2-trunk/src.bin ..
13:17 < sparc-kly> !> make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2
13:17 < sparc-kly> !> Due to previous errors, no 0-binutils.log file!
13:17 < sparc-kly> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error ins ..
13:17 < sparc-kly> -> $root/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.out -> 0-binutils.err
13:17 < sparc-kly> == 03/30/05 03:15:14 =[0]=> Aborted building package binutils.
13:17 < sparc-kly> any idea ?
13:23 < rxr> no
13:23 < rxr> what is the real error to be seen a bit higher in the log
13:24 < sparc-kly> i enable xtrace now . and rebuild binutils .
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13:56 < jeru> hi *
14:04 < rxr> moin jeru
14:04 < jeru> moin rxr :)
14:06 < jeru> rxr: what's the most elegant way to extract the package source tar, which is inside a downloaded tbz2
14:08 < rxr> only one file out of a tbz2 ?
14:08 < rxr> tar $taropt $xtar... the-file-you-want ?
14:08 < jeru> I have a package as tbz2 which includes a tgz and a checksum file and I want it as package for t2
14:08 < valentin> re
14:08 < jeru> hi valentin
14:09 < valentin> linux .... feels good ... :)
14:09 < jeru> rxr: yes ... it's just 1 tgz and one gpg file I think
14:09 < rxr> jeru: and there is more in the archive you do not want to extract ?
14:09 < jeru> inside of the distributed tbz2
14:09 < jeru> nope
14:10 < rxr> valentin: you slept until now ?
14:10 < rxr> jeru: why don't you fully extract it as normal then
14:10 < valentin> no - i am in AH, no more holiday
14:10 < rxr> ah - it is double compressed ...
14:10 < rxr> well
14:11 < rxr> well - I think you can not come around using a temporariy file ...
14:13 < rxr> valentin: linux? what is that? - this hobby os without driver support, crashing, slow and ugly graphic that is even hard to use ?
14:14 < rxr> I heared rumours they even can not code a HTML engine and stole it from Apple's Safari or so ...
14:15 < jeru> seems to me that rxr switched into satire mode again ,)
14:15 < sepp> they also stole all code from sco
14:15 < jeru> damn linux crap
14:15 < rxr> oh
14:15 < rxr> darn ...
14:15 < rxr> jeru: yeah - exactly
14:16 < jeru> will reboot my laptop into "Redmond OS" now .... ,)
14:16 < sepp> i think gtk and wxw was stolen from ms
14:16 * rxr showering and the continuing debugging this quick time fluff ..
14:16 < rxr> sepp: because it contina heisenbugs and sucks so much *g*?
14:16 < sepp> rxr: yup
14:18 < rxr> lol - the osx on screen display for brightness and volume is sooo lagging - impressive ...
14:18 < rxr> even my good old Linux X11 OSD reacts more smoothly ...
14:20 < valentin> rxr: don't forgot the great multitasking of osx :)
14:20 < valentin> imagine you have a process that need much cpu power
14:24 < valentin> then why would you want to waste all that power to other processes like text console or web browser ?
14:24 < valentin> a good scheduler would give all resources to that one important process
14:24 < sepp> i will install dos
14:25 < valentin> dos - that was that old 80286 bios wrapper ?
14:25 < sepp> yes
14:25 < sepp> no multitasking problems
14:25 < sepp> good work
14:26 < valentin> no virtual memory management
14:26 < valentin> no protected modes
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14:26 < valentin> just pure computing
14:26 < valentin> no lousy driver problems
14:26 < valentin> direct hardware access for maximum speed
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14:27 < sepp> no silly user management
14:27 < sepp> its so great
14:29 < Minto> Have you guys forgotten about CP/M, the thing dos was stolen from.
14:31 < valentin> i thought dos was a hacked version from q-dos which was a CP/M clone
14:31 < Minto> Does anyone know what the MS stands for in MSDos (and MS Windows, Word, Office, ...)?
14:31 < Minto> Me Stole Dos
14:31 < valentin> hehe
14:40 < jeru> Minto: when I was around 12 I hacked Pascal on CPM ,)
14:43 * jeru is moving home now ... cu later
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14:47 < mnemoc> moin
14:48 < rxr> moin
15:06 < mnemoc> hi rxr
15:06 < rxr> oh - damn
15:06 < rxr> I prepared a coffee last night and forgot to drink it ...
15:09 < mnemoc> cold tea is nice, but cold coffee?
15:12 < rxr> got into the sink ...
15:13 < mnemoc> :(
15:14 < rxr> but I already consumed a fresh one *g*
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15:15 < rxr> this osx hacking makes me kaffeein adicted ...
15:25 < mnemoc> :)
15:32 < CIA-9> rene * r7868 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/etc_profile.txt:
15:32 < CIA-9> Stefan Paletta:
15:32 < CIA-9> * construct $PATH in reverse order, so /usr/local/bin overrides
15:32 < CIA-9> /usr/bin and /bin
15:32 < CIA-9> * fixed $PS1 for non-root users of Korn shell
15:34 < mnemoc> shouldn't we mention it was taken from rock and not sent directly to T2?
15:37 < rxr> re
15:37 < rxr> well, ...
15:38 < rxr> forgot to add that ..
15:38 < rxr> I see you applied the iproute2 address patch ..
15:38 < rxr> wouldn't be s.th. like a mac keyword be more intuitive ?
15:38 < rxr> I find address a bit fluffy ...
15:38 < rxr> could be ipv4/6 address or so ..
15:38 < mnemoc> me?
15:39 < mnemoc> i don't remember to have applied that
15:39 < mnemoc> but i'm sick enough to forget such stuff
15:39 < mnemoc> feel free to change it at will
15:41 < rxr> 6951 amery public_address() {
15:41 < rxr> r6951 | amery | 2005-03-02 15:08:40 +0100 (Wed, 02 Mar 2005) | 4 lines
15:41 < rxr> Bernd Petrovitsch: * added support for changing the hw address of an interface to iproute2's rocknet module
15:41 < rxr> I change it to mac, ok ?
15:44 < CIA-9> rene * r7869 /trunk/package/network/iproute2/rocknet_iproute2.sh: * changed Network config address keyword to mac
15:44 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
15:45 < mnemoc> where would to put a 'conduit' function for rocknet? iproute2 module?
15:50 < mnemoc> gweis is a fix machine
15:54 < mnemoc> iptables i mean
16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r7870 /trunk/package/textproc/raptor/raptor.desc: * updated raptor (1.3.1 -> 1.4.5)
16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r7871 /trunk/package/themes/crystal-icons-gnome/crystal-icons-gnome.desc: * updated crystal-icons-gnome (1.0 -> 1.2)
16:05 < rxr> lol
16:05 < rxr> fake:
16:05 < rxr> linux=linux26: update to 2.6.11.2
16:05 < rxr> incremental to the 2.6.11 update, fixes build
16:05 < rxr> on pcc.
16:06 < rxr> not only is that the upstream merged T2 ppc fix, ... nice typo ...
16:06 < CIA-9> rene * r7872 /trunk/package/archiver/alien/alien.desc: * updated alien (8.50 -> 8.51)
16:07 < rxr> fake:
16:07 < rxr> postfix: update to 2.2.0
16:07 < rxr> hehe - we already have 2.2.1 ,-)
16:09 < CIA-9> rene * r7873 /trunk/package/audio/lame/lame.desc: * fixed lame URL tag (from ROCK Linux submaster)
16:11 < CIA-9> rene * r7874 /trunk/package/ (audio/flac/ multimedia/flac/): * moved multimedia/flac info audio/
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16:15 < Minto> Hi *
16:15 < Minto> my edb, eet and evas (the ones without x11) get installed in /PKGPREFIX_ERROR. I wonder what could have caused this. Anyone a clue?
16:19 < rxr> erhm - no - never saw that ..
16:20 < Minto> I didn't get any build errors, just noticed the strange location.
16:20 < CIA-9> rene * r7875 /trunk/package/archiver/zip/ (zip.conf zip.desc): * decustmained zip (inspired from ROCK submaster)
16:21 < rxr> well - while flushing submaster, for most stuff I just can say we are already there ...
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16:22 < jeru> rehi
16:23 < Minto> head /var/adm/logs/5-evas.log
16:23 < Minto> ...
16:23 < Minto> APPEND = '-lz -lm -L/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/lib -I/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/include -s -fPIC'
16:23 < Minto> ...
16:23 < Minto> Append: -L/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/lib
16:23 < Minto> Append: -I/PKGPREFIX_ERROR/include
16:23 < Minto> hi jeru
16:23 < jeru> hi Minto
16:26 < Minto> Seems the pkgprefix function is doing this on the last line.
16:26 < valentin> rxr: we should consider giving write access to gweis - that will be more efficient than creeping through submaster
16:30 < rxr> oh - yes a new bunch of patchse ...
16:30 < rxr> my osx freaked out ...
16:30 < rxr> the mouse button remained pressed - withtout a way to clean that state up ..
16:31 < rxr> marking text in thy Terminal.app - after wildly clicking around clicking the touchpad helped ...
16:31 < rxr> guess the ADB kernel driver or so bugged ...
16:35 < CIA-9> rene * r7876 /trunk/package/mail/mutt/mutt.conf:
16:35 < CIA-9> Tobias Hintze :
16:35 < CIA-9> * fixed mutt.conf pop support by passing --enable-pop not --enable-pop3
16:39 < keinek> hi
16:39 < CIA-9> rene * r7877 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.desc: * updated snort (2.3.0 -> 2.3.2)
16:41 < jeru> oh ... a snort update :)
16:41 < jeru> hi keinek
16:42 < rxr> huh?
16:42 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/smadm.cgi?i=2005032914033301903
16:42 < rxr> .oO
16:42 < jeru> keinek: how is your T2 working ?
16:42 < rxr> ok - submaster mostly flushed ...
16:42 < keinek> is fine
16:42 < keinek> but i still working in the update of xmame
16:42 < rxr> there was few interesting stuff in it ...
16:42 < keinek> in a few minutes i will send de patch
16:42 < rxr> 98% we are already there - or newer - or cleaner ...
16:43 < keinek> new version :)
16:43 < keinek> i will add subversion in my template and in the target
16:43 < keinek> but dont work when i do Build-Target.
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16:44 < keinek> said something like
16:44 < keinek> grep: build/system-2.1.0-rc1-x86-athlon-xp-desktop-expert/var/adm/packages/subversion: No such file or directory
16:44 < keinek> and is right...
16:44 < keinek> but why dont build that so?
16:44 < keinek> the Emerge of subversion is working good
16:45 < keinek> but i like that this package are include in my distro :P
16:45 < jeru> keinek: I guess it wasn't enabled in your target
16:46 < keinek> Mmmm but i do that
16:47 < keinek> i guess that meaby i touch so much the target :)
16:47 < keinek> is the only way to learn :P
16:47 < keinek> now i will testing the patch of xmame.
16:47 < keinek> if everthing working good.
16:47 < keinek> i will send the patch
16:47 < keinek> :)
16:47 < jeru> keinek: wish you happy testing ;)
16:48 < keinek> yeah! ;)
16:48 < CIA-9> rene * r7878 /trunk/scripts/config.in:
16:48 < CIA-9> * fixed typo in lazy, smart and bizare optimisation setting
16:48 < CIA-9> * added better comment to the lazy option
16:48 < CIA-9> * removed the bizare option (...)
16:49 * sepp gives up
16:50 < sepp> the bug is somewhere in the superb gtk type system
16:52 < sepp> wired is very unstable and a wxw 2.4 will also fix audacity
16:53 < sepp> at least fix*
16:58 < mtr> moin moin
17:00 < jeru> moin mtr
17:00 < mtr> upgraded my workstation with a t2 desktop build this afternoon
17:00 < mtr> hi jeru
17:01 < mtr> what is your preferred update method? mine -i pkgs/* ?
17:01 < mtr> i had some troubles with mine, why did mine overwrite /etc/shadow ... ?
17:03 < rxr> hm - it should not
17:03 < rxr> on default it should check the checksum for modifications ...
17:03 < mtr> that's what i had expected, too
17:03 < CIA-9> rene * r7879 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
17:03 < CIA-9> * updated libraw1394 (0.9.0 -> 1.2.0)
17:03 < CIA-9> * updated libavc1394 (0.4.1 -> 0.5.0)
17:04 < mtr> even mine -r should check md5sum on single files
17:05 < rxr> mtr: only with -f you force it to skip that ...
17:05 < rxr> I could help debugging if it contains a bug ..
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17:07 < mtr> i have to check which different mine versions i have on my system
17:15 < jsaw> re
17:15 < rxr> moin jsaw
17:15 < jeru> hi jsaw
17:15 < jsaw> man, gweis...
17:15 < jsaw> hi rxr, jeru
17:15 < mtr> hi jsaw
17:15 < jsaw> hi mtr
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17:16 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. I just apply the gweis patches ...
17:19 < jsaw> "fixed lame url tag" hehe
17:19 < rxr> what is so funny ?
17:20 < valentin> hm, grep -v -B does not work ...
17:21 < mtr> there is definitely a problem with mine, it is strange, but reproducable
17:21 < jsaw> rxr: "lame" =[LANG=de]=> lahm,faul
17:22 < rxr> hehe
17:22 < mtr> could someone please confirm this? using mine 0.20 ...
17:22 < mtr> md5sum /etc/wgetrc, change the file, mine -r, and reinstall with mine -i
17:23 < mtr> and your changes to the file are lost ... :(
17:23 < rxr> mtr: mine is strange ...
17:23 < rxr> in 2.2 we will get rid of it ,-)
17:23 < rxr> I take a look
17:23 < mtr> it is strange, in earlier upgrades i saw it working the expected way
17:24 < mtr> and 0.19 -> 0.20 did not change so much
17:25 < CIA-9> chris * r7880 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/heimdal.conf: * fixed heimdal.conf that it will not copy ldap schema files if we've just the openldap libs installed
17:31 < rxr> hm - disk i/o under osx is soo slow ...
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17:35 < CIA-9> rene * r7881 /trunk/package/ruby/eruby/eruby.conf:
17:35 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:35 < CIA-9> * cleaned eruby.conf
17:36 < CIA-9> rene * r7882 /trunk/package/ruby/mod_ruby/mod_ruby.conf:
17:36 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:36 < CIA-9> * removed custmain from mod_ruby
17:36 < CIA-9> chris * r7883 /trunk/package/mail/qmail/qmail-ldap.conf: * fixed qmail-ldap.conf that it will inject ldap schema file just if we have an openldap server installed
17:37 < CIA-9> mtr * r7884 /trunk/package/gnome2/gal/gal.desc: * updated gal (2.4.0 -> 2.4.1)
17:38 < CIA-9> rene * r7885 /trunk/package/network/net-tools/net-tools.conf:
17:38 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:38 < CIA-9> * cleaned net-tools to not override makeot/makeinstopt
17:39 < CIA-9> rene * r7886 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/sysvinit.conf:
17:39 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:39 < CIA-9> * cleaned sysvinit to not overwrite makeopt/makeinstopt
17:41 < CIA-9> rene * r7887 /trunk/package/base/procinfo/procinfo.conf:
17:41 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:41 < CIA-9> * cleaned procinfo to not overwrite makeopt/makeinstopt
17:42 < CIA-9> rene * r7888 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.conf:
17:42 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:42 < CIA-9> * cleaned whois - and so honor makeopt/makeinstopt
17:43 < CIA-9> rene * r7889 /trunk/package/network/portmap/portmap.conf:
17:43 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:43 < CIA-9> * cleaned portmap - and so honor makeopt/makeinstopt
17:44 < CIA-9> rene * r7890 /trunk/package/develop/ocaml/ (ocaml.conf ocaml.desc):
17:44 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:44 < CIA-9> * cleaned ocaml to not overwrite makeopt/makeinstopt
17:44 < CIA-9> * marked it NOPARALLE since the current version does not build parallel
17:46 < CIA-9> rene * r7891 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-media/gnome-media.conf:
17:46 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis:
17:46 < CIA-9> * fixed gonme-media
17:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r7892 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkhtml/gtkhtml.desc: * updated gtkhtml (3.6.0 -> 3.6.1)
17:46 < rxr> wow - what a CIA flood ...
17:47 < CIA-9> rene * r7893 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/ (fluxbox.conf no-bsetroot.diff no-bsetroot.patch):
17:47 < CIA-9> Sebastian Czech:
17:47 < CIA-9> * reworked fluxbox to install bsetroot if blackbox is not available
17:48 < CIA-9> mtr * r7894 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1.1)
17:50 < CIA-9> mtr * r7895 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.2.0 -> 1.2.1)
18:01 < keinek> qemu work fine :)
18:05 < keinek> but crash sometimes :P
18:06 < rxr> normally worked fine - only FreeDOS on PowerPC is a bit glitchy ...
18:06 < keinek> when i try boot from C driver i have BIOS panic at rombios.c, line 7755
18:06 < keinek> and crash.
18:06 < keinek> meaby is something wrong with me.
18:07 < jsaw> cu later
18:07 < rxr> cu jsaw
18:07 < keinek> cu later jsaw
18:08 < keinek> i was send the patch for xmame a few minutes ago.
18:08 < CIA-9> rene * r7896 /trunk/scripts/config.in:
18:08 < CIA-9> * removed expert / onexpert encoding from the CFG_ID - it is just
18:08 < CIA-9> annoying
18:08 < keinek> :)
18:09 < mnemoc> hi!
18:09 < mnemoc> keinek: hi, you forgot to change xmame's [V]
18:09 < keinek> Mmmmm
18:09 < valentin> rxr: is r7896 that item from my todo ?
18:09 < keinek> ups
18:10 < keinek> sorry
18:10 < keinek> i will chage that
18:10 < mtr> hi mnemoc
18:10 < keinek> i was too worry with the cheksum :P
18:10 < mnemoc> hi mtr
18:10 < mnemoc> keinek: use misc/archive/Update.sh
18:11 < mnemoc> anyway, i guess rene will fix that before applying so you don't need to send a new patch
18:11 < mnemoc> if you promise you wont do it again :p
18:12 < keinek> sorry
18:12 < keinek> i was send already new patch
18:12 < keinek> :(
18:12 < mnemoc> rxr: 7896 may need an announcement, because you need to rename your current buildroots
18:13 < mnemoc> keinek: don't worry
18:13 < keinek> ok
18:13 < keinek> we have new xmame :)
18:13 < mnemoc> :)
18:13 < keinek> mnemoc, today i was start test qemu
18:14 < valentin> mnemoc: ack
18:15 < valentin> but in general i appreciate r7896
18:15 < mnemoc> valentin: me too
18:15 < mnemoc> valentin: but the announcement is needed
18:15 < keinek> vmware is better than qemu, but qemu is free... so... i be fine with that.
18:16 < mnemoc> is qemu too slow for you?
18:17 < keinek> qemu in some have so much speed, in other part is so slow.
18:18 < keinek> qemu in some parts have so much speed, in other part is so slow.
18:18 < keinek> *
18:18 < mnemoc> :)
18:18 < valentin> i drive home now, cu later
18:19 < keinek> cu
18:19 < Minto> mnemoc: I want to eliminate custmain from the java packages. But don't know how. Do you know a package for inspiration?
18:19 < mnemoc> let me review java packages
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18:20 < Minto> For a start the blackdown jre
18:21 < mnemoc> patching on a function hooked to postpatch
18:22 < Minto> Uhmm, need to watch my son for a while, be back soon.
18:22 < mnemoc> ( cd $root/$prefix; sh $builddir/${srctar##*/} $java_install_opt ) <--- this on 'postmake'
18:22 < mnemoc> with makeopt='' and makeinstopt=''
18:22 < mnemoc> aand profile.d part on another level of postmake
18:23 < mnemoc> set autoextract=0
18:23 < mnemoc> uhm... no
18:23 < mnemoc> define srctar outside any function
18:24 < mnemoc> yes, that :p
18:24 < mnemoc> autoextract=0
18:26 < mnemoc> case "$arch" -> srctar outside function
18:26 < mnemoc> patching on postpatch
18:26 < mnemoc> cd $root/$prefix; sh $builddir/${srctar##*/} $java_install_opt on postmake
18:27 < mnemoc> makeinstopt='' and makeopt=''
18:27 < mnemoc> and profile.d on postmake
18:27 < jeru> hi mnemoc :)
18:28 < mnemoc> hi jeru
18:28 < jeru> hope you feel better
18:28 < mnemoc> a bit more 'acceptable'
18:28 < jeru> :)
18:30 < jeru> mnemoc: just a note -> the dansguardian related options X-Forwarding For and virusscanning are broken
18:30 < jeru> at least the patches don't apply anymore ...
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18:33 < jeru> mnemoc: will try to fix it ... but I think not before tomorrow, because I've to leave in 30 min. for doing some sports
18:41 < mnemoc> re
18:41 < mnemoc> how updated it?
18:41 < mnemoc> who*
18:45 < jeru> I updated squid yesterday
18:46 < mnemoc> each version of squid needs a new version of dansguardian and a new version of virusscanning
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18:48 < jeru> mnemoc: sorry ... doesn't know that ... do want to revert squid update ?
18:48 < jeru> don't*
18:48 < rxr> I did the init.d changes locally ...
18:49 < rxr> mnemoc: where do we want to have the rocknet stuff?
18:49 < pwk> hi guys, I am currently trying to build the initrd for my hardned linux sources, in a new gentoo install. During the process that is supposed to generate the initrd also dietlibc is built, and I get the errors about unresolved symbols in things like __guard __stack_smash_handler, have you guys got an idea how to solve my problem?
18:50 < mnemoc> i'm not sure about /sbin/_init.d_ neither
18:50 < pwk> asking in this room might seem a bit weird, but I googled you guys talking about exactly the same error message in this room
18:50 < mnemoc> try using T2 :)
18:51 < rxr> yeah - I can also only recomment T2 over s.th. as messy and beta as gentoo ...
18:51 < rxr> but if you need to use gentoo for one reason or another try using a non broken gcc ...
18:51 < rxr> mnemoc: what about /lib/network for the modules?
18:52 < pwk> gcc --version tells me: gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.5-r1, ssp-3.3.2-3, pie-8.7.7.1), is that broken?
18:52 < rxr> the config is /etc/conf/network and the master script /sbin/rocknet and the associated ifup / ifdown ...
18:52 < rxr> pwk: your gcc is defect - no idea what gentoo patches into it ...
18:53 < mnemoc> what did you put on sbin/init.d ?
18:54 < rxr> into that dir the init scripts go ...
18:54 < rxr> and the config symlinks into /etc/...
18:55 < mnemoc> and rocknet bin?
18:55 < mnemoc> ok
18:55 < mnemoc> ignore that
18:55 < mnemoc> .oO
18:56 < mnemoc> will we keep it as 'rocknet'?
18:56 < rxr> well, ... - 2.2 will get s.th. else anyway ... - embedded C++, LUA or so ...
18:56 < mnemoc> ok
18:57 < mnemoc> rocknet and rockplug on 2.1
18:59 < mnemoc> rxr: don't forget nettab on /etc/conf too
19:00 < mnemoc> rxr: what about the fix to -update to remove deprecated files?
19:01 < rxr> nettab what ?
19:01 < mnemoc> iwdetect
19:01 < rxr> do we have iwdetect in the tree ?
19:01 < mnemoc> yep
19:02 < mnemoc> and _you_ said /etc/network/nettab for it
19:02 < rxr> oh - I forgot ....
19:02 < rxr> sure - I change all this ...
19:02 < mnemoc> :)
19:02 < mnemoc> and Build-Pkg -update ?
19:03 < mnemoc> this change is a good chance for testing the 'delete deprecated files' thing
19:04 < mnemoc> i also want to automatize .rocknet files installation, and .cron and .init
19:05 < mnemoc> but this change is harmless
19:05 < jeru> I'm out now ... cu later
19:05 < mnemoc> me too
19:05 < mnemoc> cu
19:07 < rxr> yeah - /me too ...
19:08 < rxr> cu
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19:47 < valentin> gentoo ...
20:51 < keinek> qemu is a piece of sh****
20:52 < keinek> :P
20:52 < keinek> i can't work with that
20:52 < keinek> :(
20:52 < keinek> emulation in windows 98 is unstable.
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21:49 < Minto> I am gonne too. Bye
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22:15 < rxr> re
22:15 < rxr> Asterisk 1.0.7
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22:27 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10152
22:32 < sepp_> lol
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22:34 < sepp> should i send every package i make to the list?
22:34 < sepp> i mean things onone uses like squeak?
22:34 < sepp> noone == only me
22:46 < CIA-9> susan * r7897 /trunk/scripts/Download: * removed some ROCK'nism from Download
22:50 < rxr> sepp: squeak? of course - I guess many peple are potentially interesting in that smalltalk env. ...
22:50 < rxr> go and send them all ...
23:00 < sepp> ok i will send them tomorrow
23:00 < sepp> some packages complied but works an bit strange
23:00 < sepp> like rosegarden
23:00 < rxr> yes - keep your time ..
23:01 < rxr> I'm on susan's iBook in the kitchen right now ... and do not want to open an imap client for me .. anyway
23:01 < sepp> i want to check if they work well
23:01 < sepp> 1st
23:02 < rxr> that is always welcome ,-)
23:04 < sepp> i found some apps that compile but do not really work - argh
23:04 < rxr> .oO
23:04 < rxr> Building libnet-tools.a
23:04 < rxr> /usr/src/t2-trunk/build/default-2.1.0-rc1-x86-pentium-mmx-desktop/TOOLCHAIN/tool
23:04 < rxr> s.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc/i586-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-t2-linux-gnu
23:04 < rxr> /bin/ld: BFD 2.15.94.0.2.2 20041220 internal error, aborting at merge.c line 840 in _bfd_merged_section_offset
23:04 < rxr> I never got an internal error in _ld_ !!!
23:06 < mnemoc> re
23:07 < rxr> hi mnemoc
23:07 < mnemoc> hi rxr
23:09 < sepp> about the heisenbug in xwx - its an problem in gtk but i am to stupid to solve it
23:10 < sepp> i think an wx 2.4 would be ok
23:10 < sepp> to build audacity
23:11 < mnemoc> can wx25 and wx24 coexist?
23:11 < sepp> yes
23:11 < jeru> re
23:11 < sepp> only file that should conflict is wx-config
23:11 < mnemoc> an wxpy24 and wxpy25?
23:11 < sepp> the gtk2 thing
23:12 < mnemoc> what gtk2 thing?
23:13 < sepp> i tested different optimization levels - the only thing that "fixed" the bug was debugging symbols in gtk
23:13 < sepp> wxwidgets with gtk2 support
23:13 < sepp> i tested wxw 2.3.1 and 2.4
23:13 < sepp> same bug
23:14 < mnemoc> so gtk2 push us to use wx25?
23:14 < sepp> the problem is in the type system of gtk
23:14 < mnemoc> i want to remember why i updated wx
23:14 < sepp> gtk2 push us to use wxw 2.4 and 2.5
23:15 < rxr> didn't jsaw updated wx for some of his science stuff ?
23:15 < mnemoc> oh
23:15 < sepp> yes
23:15 < sepp> there are soem apps that need 2.5
23:15 < mnemoc> so we need to have both
23:15 < mnemoc> svn cp wxwidgets{,24}
23:15 < mnemoc> svn cp wxpython{,24}
23:16 < mnemoc> install_wrapper to *24
23:16 < mnemoc> and addapt wx24 dependent packages to use wx24_config
23:16 < sepp> i wanted to add wired but this needs wx25 without unicode...
23:17 < mnemoc> needs wx25?
23:17 < sepp> wired needs it
23:17 < sepp> but its very buggy
23:17 < rxr> well - add wx24 and disable unicode in wx25 for now ?
23:17 < sepp> so maybe i better ifnore it
23:17 < rxr> wired or wx ?
23:17 < mnemoc> wired
23:17 < sepp> wired needs wxwidgets without unicode
23:18 < sepp> 2.5
23:18 < rxr> I meant is wired or wx that broken ?
23:18 < sepp> both not
23:18 < rxr> 23:17 < sepp> wired needs it
23:18 < rxr> 23:17 < sepp> but its very buggy
23:18 < sepp> but wx without unicode might breake some other apps
23:18 < mnemoc> wx25 does unicode, if wired needs an special flavor of wx25, wired is flawed
23:19 < sepp> yes wired is buggy but works
23:19 < sepp> with wx2.5 without unicode
23:19 < mnemoc> do we want three branches of wx?
23:19 < sepp> no
23:19 < rxr> well - but maybe wx25 wo. unicode for now ..
23:20 < sepp> my idea was to ignore wired
23:20 < mnemoc> but wx without unicode might breake some other apps
23:20 < rxr> I mean gnome is broken too - but people want and use it ..
23:20 < rxr> mnemoc: might - my hope is not ...
23:20 < sepp> the wx thing is really complex
23:20 < mnemoc> lets start forking wx into wx24
23:20 < sepp> sorry if i confused you
23:21 < mnemoc> ROCKCFG_WXWIDGETS_NOUNICODE=1 ?
23:21 < sepp> some apps needs wx 2.4 some 2.5 with unicode sone without unicode
23:21 < mnemoc> and wired as an optional package?
23:21 < mnemoc> wired might get fixed some day and get 'X'ed
23:22 < sepp> wired is the only app that need wx2.5 without unicode
23:22 < rxr> please no UNICODE CFG for wx ...
23:22 < sepp> but wx2.5 without unicode has the heisenbug
23:22 < rxr> however having wired as O in tree and X it in some weeks is nice ...
23:23 < mnemoc> i think keep a non-standard wx25 would be a bug on t2
23:24 < sepp> i think for audcity we should use an wx 2.4
23:24 < mnemoc> ROCKCFG_WXWIDGETS_NOUNICODE would let us have an standard wx25 and let people change it to build wired if they want it
23:24 < rxr> well - just setting some option does not make it non standard ...
23:24 < rxr> e.g. if wired has users it can not be that non-stanard if it work on other dists
23:24 < mnemoc> do we all agree in svn cp wxwidgets{,24} ?
23:24 < mnemoc> please no UNICODE CFG for wx ...
23:24 < mnemoc> if you dont use an option you will have a non-standard wx25
23:25 < mnemoc> wx25 is with unicode
23:25 < sepp> i could also add the hugin package with an wx 2.4 version
23:25 < sepp> wx is really crap
23:25 < rxr> var_append confopt ' ' "--enable-unicode"
23:25 < rxr> well - I guess default is not unicode
23:25 < mnemoc> i guess the default is unicode
23:26 < sepp> 2.4 default has no unicode
23:26 < mnemoc> can we make wired build on 2.4?
23:26 < sepp> 2.5 default has unicode
23:26 < rxr> mnemoc: why is that option in the file then ?
23:26 < rxr> then remove the option ,-)
23:26 < mnemoc> svn blame ?
23:27 < mnemoc> i think that was not added because it's fun to have unicode
23:28 < sepp> i think i should write a mail about unicode
23:28 < mnemoc> we never add options for fun
23:28 < mnemoc> so there is a reason to have wx25 and to have wx25 with unicode
23:28 < mnemoc> 5423 jsaw [V] 2.5.3.1
23:29 < mnemoc> r5423 | jsaw | 2005-01-05 02:46:52 -0300 (Wed, 05 Jan 2005) | 2 lines
23:29 < mnemoc> * update wxwidgets (2.4.2.4 -> 2.5.3.1)
23:29 < mnemoc> jsaw!
23:29 < mnemoc> 5423 jsaw var_append confopt ' ' "--enable-unicode"
23:29 < sepp> damn
23:30 < mnemoc> 5781 rene # needed for xmule and audacity
23:30 < mnemoc> 5781 rene var_append confopt ' ' "--enable-compat22"
23:30 < sepp> i will write an long mail about wx 2.4 2.5 with /2.5 without unicode
23:30 < mnemoc> :)
23:31 < sepp> i already tryed to eat my desk...
23:31 < mnemoc> i'll create wxwidgets24 and wxpython24
23:31 < mnemoc> then you patch it :p
23:32 < sepp> ok
23:32 < jeru> good night everybody ...
23:32 < mnemoc> gn8 jeru
23:33 < jeru> yeah ... I've to sleep ... damn sport
23:33 < jeru> :)
23:33 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE30B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
23:33 < rxr> mnemoc: I hope that change is ok ...
23:34 < sepp> with wx 2.4 and 2.5 at least audacity will work
23:34 < CIA-9> susan * r7898 /trunk/scripts/ (Build-Pkg Emerge-Pkg):
23:34 < CIA-9> * added an ERROR mark to the .cache file at the end of BUILDTIME so
23:34 < CIA-9> Emerge-Pkg has a new tag to track for formerly failed builds
23:34 < CIA-9> * updated the Emerge-Pkg regex to match against the new ERROR mark
23:34 < mnemoc> i'll add them as 'O' until sepp fix them to coexist :)
23:34 < sepp> the wired sound app is an other story
23:35 < mnemoc> that's the third volume of the story
23:35 < sepp> dont ask me the wx utf code is really fubar
23:35 < mnemoc> wx sticks and we agree on that :)
23:36 < CIA-9> amery * r7899 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: * fixed Create-CopyPatch to not patch .cache files
23:36 < sepp> i spent 3h to find the heisenbug in wx/gtk+ today
23:36 < sepp> damn
23:37 < rxr> sepp: be happy you tinker on linux - guess what fun we have under OS X ...
23:37 < rxr> there you can not loook into the quick time junk - you have to trial and error - or try to google on the apple devel site ...
23:37 < sepp> but the more i see gtk...
23:37 < rxr> but /me in bed - cu folks ...
23:38 < sepp> i already want to kill the developers
23:39 < sepp> this really makes me angry
23:39 < mnemoc> CIA-9!
23:39 < CIA-9> amery * r7900 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets24/ (5 files): * added wxwidgets24 as a copy of wxwidgets just before the update to 2.5 (part 1/2)
23:40 < mnemoc> sepp: which developers?
23:40 < sepp> gnome/glib/gtk
23:41 < sepp> i hope no g* developer reads this ;)
23:41 < mnemoc> hehe
23:41 < sepp> but i find no words for this
23:42 < mnemoc> *angry* is a good 'word'
23:42 < sepp> thats not enough
23:42 < mnemoc> *ANGRY* ?
23:42 < CIA-9> amery * r7901 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets24/ (6 files): * added wxwidgets24 (part 2/2)
23:43 < mnemoc> sepp: 790{0,1} is all yours
23:43 < sepp> in my broken english it would be WTF would any one with a brain wrapps around gtk?????????????????/
23:44 < mnemoc> wtf is light :)
23:44 < sepp> and who developed the wx unicode crap
23:45 < mnemoc> that's just a piece of sh*t
23:45 < sepp> i already wanted to eat my mouse
23:46 < mnemoc> my mouse pad has been bite lot of times :)
23:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7902 /trunk/package/python/wxpython24/ (. wxpython.cache wxpython.conf wxpython.desc): * added wxpython24 as a copy of wxpython just before the update to 2.5 (part 1/2)
23:46 < sepp> audacity and wired are nice apps but wx ARRRGHHHH
23:47 < mnemoc> that's why new projects are choosing mono to get crossplatform-ism
23:48 < sepp> damn i hope dylan develops well
23:48 < mnemoc> dylan?
23:48 < sepp> ask freshmeat
23:48 < CIA-9> amery * r7903 /trunk/package/python/wxpython24/ (6 files): * added wxpython24 (part 2/2)
23:49 < sepp> its an very nice lisp/smalltalk based lang.
23:49 < mnemoc> .oO( lisp )o
23:49 < mnemoc> do you want to fix clisp? :p
23:50 < sepp> its broken?
23:50 < mnemoc> it frozes during tests
23:50 < mnemoc> killing your machine with inmortal gdb processes
23:50 < sepp> i made an X on my todo list ;)
23:50 < mnemoc> :)
23:51 < sepp> http://www.gwydiondylan.org/
23:53 < CIA-9> amery * r7904 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * injected T2 Copyright note to wxpython24 and wxwidgets24
23:54 < mnemoc> sepp: wxpython24 and wxwidgets24 are taged as 'optional', but they are ready for you. using INSTALL_WRAPPER_FILTER you can rename output on cp/install
23:55 < mnemoc> but patches would be needed to use wx24-config
23:55 < sepp> np
23:56 < sepp> i will try to build audacity with wx 24 later
23:56 < mnemoc> :)
23:57 < mnemoc> you may ask rene for a write account
23:57 < sepp> i only fix things in my build
23:57 < sepp> its ok to send patches
23:58 < mnemoc> ok :)
23:59 < sepp> i am really pissed with xwx
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