--- Log opened Mon Mar 28 00:00:27 2005 --- Day changed Mon Mar 28 2005 00:00 < keinek> no way! 00:00 < keinek> is free 00:00 < keinek> realy free 00:00 < keinek> you are in germany 00:00 < keinek> ? 00:00 < keinek> tell me your number i will call you :) 00:01 < keinek> but remember 00:01 < keinek> my english is very bad 00:01 < valentin> maybe tomorow, my girl sleeps already 00:01 < valentin> save your minutes for another country :) 00:02 < madtux> keinek, don't worry about your english you can talk germany with him 00:02 < keinek> hahaha 00:02 < keinek> sure 00:02 < keinek> whay time is there valentin? 00:02 < valentin> 00:03 00:02 < keinek> nooooo 00:02 < keinek> sorry rxr 00:02 < keinek> :D 00:03 < valentin> rxr is awake, so what 00:03 < keinek> in argentina is 19:03 00:03 < valentin> it would be 23:03 if it were yesterday 00:03 < valentin> today we have that stupid "daylight saving" 00:04 < valentin> you are right - i do not even have to purchase sip-minutes to get my 5 free minutes 00:04 < valentin> i can even use that from germany 00:04 < valentin> that sounds interessting 00:04 < valentin> keinek: can you try a linux sip softphone with that ? 00:05 < keinek> yes 00:05 < keinek> there are kphone 00:05 < keinek> and another programs too 00:06 < keinek> but this client in windows ask for a secret word that appear in a picure 00:06 < keinek> like in the yahoo or google. 00:06 < keinek> picture* 00:06 < keinek> right? 00:06 < valentin> but the website tells me i can use any softphone 00:07 < valentin> picture 00:07 < keinek> yes 00:07 < keinek> you can 00:07 < valentin> you speak german ? 00:07 < keinek> i was try only x-lite 00:07 < madtux> keinek, dile "ja" 00:07 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.207.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 00:07 < sepp> back 00:07 < keinek> i try x-lite with wine but dont work. 00:07 < keinek> ja? 00:08 < valentin> :D 00:11 < sepp> there is an problem with libpng - in /usr i have png.h pngconf.h (dead links) they should be in /usr/include 00:11 < madtux> anyone had problems building mine-20 00:11 < madtux> ? 00:11 < valentin> on the other hand - who wants to call landline anyway ? in a few years we all will be using VoIP exclusively .... 00:12 < madtux> 0.20 i mean 00:12 < valentin> sepp: in /usr ? 00:12 < sepp> valentin: yes 00:13 < sepp> png.h link to libpng12/png.h and pngconf.h link to libpng12/png.h 00:13 < sepp> both files are in /usr not in /usr/include 00:13 < valentin> maybe some issue with an install wrapper or so ? 00:14 < sepp> Revision: 7784 00:15 < rxr> sepp: I do not remeber off hand - but wasn't some compatibility linking rmeoved from our png package some days / weeks ago ? 00:16 < sepp> rxr: hmm i build rev. 7784 and i got this 00:16 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.9.67] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:18 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.97] has joined #t2 00:18 < keinek> sorry 00:18 < keinek> the light was off 00:18 < keinek> electric cut 00:18 < keinek> without power 00:19 < keinek> or whatever way that i can tell that the all machine will off 00:19 < sepp> the loop-aes package it also completely broken 00:19 < keinek> but the lights back again :) 00:19 < rxr> sepp: yes - taht might very well be - (guess nearly no user here ...) 00:20 < sepp> should i fix it? 00:20 < sepp> i use loop-aes 00:20 < rxr> if you want too ,-) 00:20 < rxr> every fix is great 00:20 < sepp> ok 00:21 < rxr> sepp: i see the libpng symlinking is still there .. 00:21 < rxr> maybe I have dreamed s.th. ... 00:21 < rxr> in which way are the symlinks defect ? 00:21 < sepp> they should be in /usr/include 00:21 < sepp> not in /usr 00:21 < rxr> ah i see ... 00:22 < valentin> keinek: i downloaded the mac version of their softphone but after entering the password from that picture and registering that tool crashed 00:22 < sepp> and in the build root i have 2 "voodoo" files 00:22 < sepp> a2ps-print.el and a2ps.el 00:22 < keinek> valentin, what said? 00:22 < valentin> i got a backtrace, but that is not helpfull 00:23 < rxr> sepp: can you test if the libpng symlinking is fixed in HEAD ? 00:23 < CIA-9> rene * r7819 /trunk/package/graphic/libpng/libpng.conf: * most probably fixed dead libpng symlinks - UNTESTED 00:23 < sepp> yes 00:23 < sepp> moment 00:23 < keinek> remember that the name must have first and last name 00:23 < rxr> sepp: I guess with those dead links lingering around without any other regression we could get rid of those links completely, no ? 00:23 < rxr> sepp: do you have a user of that png header locations ? 00:24 < sepp> user? 00:24 < rxr> user as in utilizing package ... 00:24 < keinek> valentin: if you fill only one name, the program return a error 00:24 < rxr> a packages that uses that location .. 00:24 < sepp> not sure 00:24 < valentin> keinek: can i register at their website ? 00:25 < keinek> Mmmm i dont know 00:25 < sepp> rxr: you want to update util-linux? 00:25 < sepp> so that i can fix loop-aes 00:25 < keinek> valentin, the program tell you something before crash? 00:26 < sepp> if not i have to fix the mount/swapon/losetup patch 00:26 < rxr> sepp: I think updateing util-linux should be fine 00:27 < rxr> about what version change are we speaking ? 00:27 < sepp> latest 00:27 < sepp> 2.12q ? 00:27 < valentin> keinek: no 00:27 < valentin> how can i return to that registration dialog ? 00:27 < keinek> valentin : Mmmm you fill all when the program start? 00:28 < keinek> valentin, first and last name? 00:28 < keinek> valentin, dont enter numbers 00:28 < sepp> rxr: yes its util-linux-2.12q 00:28 < keinek> valentin, try enter anything like "lkalsdlk lkadslkalsd" "asdasd@hotmail.com" and the password the same "asdfg" "asdfg" 00:28 < valentin> keinek: i did - then it crashed. 00:28 < rxr> oh - that are quite a vew versions difference (2.12a -> 2.12.q ...) 00:29 < rxr> sepp: well - update it ,-) 00:29 < keinek> keinek: you download the x - lite? 00:29 < keinek> :D 00:29 < keinek> valentin: you download the x - lite? 00:30 < valentin> no - SIPphone Lite 00:30 < valentin> but after entering the stuff in the dialog it crashes 00:30 < valentin> and i have no user name to loggin 00:31 < keinek> yes is the same 00:31 < sepp> rxr: for the new packages i made, any tip who i find the right [P] without rebuilding everything? 00:31 < sepp> how* 00:31 < valentin> ah - they mailed me 00:32 < valentin> now i get an account by mail 00:32 < keinek> great 00:32 < rxr> sepp: if they have not vitial dependencies or other stuff they depend on choose s.th. very high - like 800.00 00:32 < rxr> 0 00:33 < rxr> well - if they depend on each other - increase that no. for every package ... 00:33 < sepp> rxr: ok thanks 00:33 < rxr> there are sorter helpers in the scripts directory - hower they work via the caches deps over all packages ... 00:34 < rxr> sepp: we will get rid of that static sorting - at least in 2.2 - maybe even backported to 2.1 - but I guess rather not, due to the quite frozen state of 2.1 ... 00:34 < sepp> btw 5-kdelibs.log "pkg-config installed, but no OpenEXR Libraries were found 00:34 < sepp> " 00:34 < sepp> openexr should be build before kdelibs 00:34 < rxr> oh - interesting ... ,-) 00:35 < rxr> I did not know kde has openexr support ... 00:35 < sepp> i dont know if they want to use hdri images as bg... 00:35 < sepp> who knows 00:35 < rxr> sepp in 2.2 the packages will automatically be sorted for the build accordingly to the dependency graph generated on-the-fly from the .cache files ... 00:35 < rxr> no static priority anymore ... 00:36 < sepp> nice 00:36 < sepp> but what if i use abiword but not the gnome crap? 00:36 < rxr> deps on in the selection will be ignored ... 00:36 < sepp> ok 00:36 < sepp> sounds really good 00:37 < rxr> sepp: and you can use the deps for pkg selection .. 00:37 < CIA-9> rene * r7820 /trunk/package/graphic/openexr/openexr.desc: * moved openexr to build before kdelibs 00:37 < rxr> like you specifiy that your target sould run with kdebase, xmms, mplayer and linux26 and the needed package will be selected ... 00:38 < sepp> and do you have an 5-openmotif.log? 00:38 < rxr> I do this in a hacky and cheap way for the gnome packages today in the desktop target - to not fiddle with the many packages around manually ... 00:38 < sepp> its full of errors 00:38 < rxr> ouh 00:38 < sepp> but it does not fail 00:38 < valentin> so, no i try to do a call 00:39 < keinek> the supply of electricity was cut, a few minutes ago 00:39 < rxr> sepp: currently no - too bad mnemoc_ does not copy the log files to his public dir ... 00:39 < valentin> keinek: do i have to do 04930 or +4930 as a number ? 00:39 < rxr> sepp: I built it manually 00:40 < sepp> rxr: ok 00:40 < rxr> s/built/build/ right now .. 00:40 < keinek> 00:40 < keinek> I think that the best thing will be to use this free translator 0nline 00:40 < keinek> valentin, 0049 00:41 < valentin> COOL 00:41 < valentin> i called myself 00:41 < rxr> valentin: wanna call me ... 00:42 < valentin> now i have 5 free minutes/day - at least one thing to do in OSX 00:42 < valentin> rxr: ok 00:42 < keinek> when I called to rene two " 0 " adds and do not use 3 that it was between parentheses 00:42 < keinek> if you register again you can have all the minutes that you want 00:43 < keinek> 00:43 < keinek> in these moments I am using a translator, I would love having the translator integrated to my program of irc, 00:44 < keinek> 00:44 < keinek> They are not going to deny that it is much more agreeable to read me this way 00:45 < valentin> phonequality from berlin to berlin over that us server is quite bad 00:45 < valentin> and about 1s lag 00:45 < keinek> 00:45 < keinek> now to speak by phone it would have that it uses a synthesizer of voice. 00:46 < keinek> remembers to stop doing any thing with the line of adsl, leaving the whole of the breadth of band is the best thing. 00:46 < keinek> 00:46 < keinek> Schritt 1. 00:46 < keinek> 00:46 < keinek> Geben Sie den zu übersetzenden Text oder die zu übersetzenden Worte ein: Beispiel: "Abacho, die starke Suchmaschine!". 00:46 < keinek> 00:46 < keinek> Schritt 2. 00:46 < keinek> Wählen der Übersetzungsart: 00:46 < keinek> Schritt 3. 00:46 < keinek> 00:46 < keinek> Der Text-Translator ist dafür konzipiert, kurze Texte sinnerfassend zu übersetzen. Aber: Er ist und bleibt eine Maschine, die ihre Aufgabe ohne Berücksichtigung grammatikalischer Feinheiten oder der Intention des Autors erledigt. Die Übersetzungen werden automatisch mit modernster Software erstellt und entsprechen dem heute möglichen Qualitäts-Standard. 00:46 < keinek> 0 00:46 < keinek> fuc*! 00:46 < keinek> sorry 00:46 < keinek> he remembers to stop doing any thing with the line of adsl, leaving the whole of the breadth of band is the best thing. 00:48 < keinek> when it copies and gives one not always salt the things since one he wants 00:48 < keinek> valentin, but .... is free. 00:51 < rxr> ok - let's test if my PDF writing crashes badly - or yields a PDF ,-) 00:52 < rxr> sepp: the openmotif log is indeed filled with errors - but only at the end - doing some example ro so stuff? 00:52 < keinek> This week will remember her for that many things were important, I learned many things and had many discoveries. 00:52 < rxr> sepp: after the install run ... 00:53 < rxr> maybe caused my install.man or so ... ? 00:53 < sepp> it produces an working lib... 00:53 < sepp> libXm 00:53 < rxr> openmotif also cries for a decustmain-isation 00:54 < keinek> Last week, it was a little depressed, that's why resign at a few hours of work, to be able to devote oneself a little more to all this that so much I like. 00:54 < keinek> :) 00:54 < rxr> ,-) 00:55 < keinek> From now on a translator will use to be able to say to them everything what I want, they will realize that I speak very much. 00:55 < sepp> rxr: the png fix works ;) 00:56 < rxr> good 00:56 < rxr> even better would be if you find out if we really need it ,-) 00:56 < keinek> I joined the lists of mail of xmame and prozilla to know when there is a new version 00:58 < keinek> 00:58 < keinek> Ich schloß mich die Listen der Post von xmame und prozilla an, um zu wissen, wenn es eine neue Version gibt 00:58 < keinek> is that german? 00:58 < sepp> rxr: from my 290 pkgs no package links again libpng 00:59 < rxr> keinek: yes - mostly ,-) 01:00 < keinek> :) 01:01 < sepp> strange 01:02 < valentin> Listen der Post - i guess that should be mailinglists ? *g* 01:02 < sepp> LOL 01:02 < sepp> you could use it as rng 01:03 < valentin> or as a signature method - translate three times back and forth and take the first three worfds as a crytographic secure hash 01:03 < keinek> in reality it is the same that it paste above in English 01:05 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:05 < keinek> valentin, how were these calls free? 01:05 < valentin> keinek: sorry ? 01:06 < valentin> i did not enter any credid card information so i guess they are free 01:07 < keinek> then everything went out well. 01:08 < keinek> we already find something entertaining and perhaps it is the best page that I found in this year. 01:08 < sepp> if i patch something in the src of an pkg. should i add an leading like why? 01:08 < sepp> some *.patch has this "feature" 01:09 < sepp> have 01:09 < rxr> sepp: yes - add a note - that is very good style ... 01:09 < rxr> yes - all new patches shoudl ahve this feature ... 01:09 < sepp> ok 01:10 < sepp> i think you should update the howto send patches text 01:10 < sepp> to safe time if the next stupid user asks such things 01:11 < rxr> ehrm - I wrote a PDF 01:11 < rxr> coold! 01:11 < rxr> cool even 01:11 < rxr> it contais the wanted content !!!! 01:11 < valentin> rxr: nice 01:11 < rxr> wow - writing PDF was easier than writing plain old bitmaps ... ! 01:14 < keinek> rene from where you create the pdf? 01:15 < keinek> do you make anything similar what it can do openoffice but in another context? 01:18 < rxr> keinek: from our commercial OSX stuff ... ,-) like scanner driver and such ... *g* 01:20 < keinek> *g* y like LOL ? 01:21 < rxr> keinek: ? 01:27 < keinek> *g* is like LOL ? 01:28 < rxr> ah - yes *g* is *grin* 01:41 < sepp> good night 01:42 < sepp> i will dream of the 23 used string representations in c++ 01:43 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.207.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 01:47 < CIA-9> rene * r7821 /trunk/package/develop/apr-util/apr-util.conf: 01:47 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis and Rene Rebe: 01:47 < CIA-9> * added (open)ldap support to apr-util 01:57 * rxr off folks - n8 all 02:04 < valentin> besides the 5 free minutes sipphone.com is quite expensive 02:05 < valentin> for a call to chile i pay 1.5 EuroCent / Minute when i use a german telco provider 02:05 < valentin> for us 1.7 EC/min 02:06 < valentin> with sipphone that would be 5C and 2C 02:08 < valentin> gn8 02:45 < mnemoc_> moin 03:03 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has joined #t2 03:03 < ideal> morning 03:05 < _Ragnar_> moin 03:06 < mnemoc_> hi ideal 03:12 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@66.50.157.247] has joined #t2 03:14 < ideal> hi mnemoc_ 03:15 < mnemoc_> hi sparc-kly 03:15 < sparc-kly> hi mnemoc :P 03:17 < ideal> hi, _Ragnar_ 03:17 < ideal> hi, sparc-kly 04:44 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 04:44 < madtux> re 04:45 < mnemoc_> mike@co :) 04:46 < madtux> mike@cl soon.. 04:46 < mnemoc_> uhm? 04:46 < madtux> :) 04:47 < mnemoc_> uhm^2? 04:47 < madtux> .oO( Un dia tu cel sonara, y el madtux te dira donde te busco para que nos vayamos a almorzar ) 04:47 < mnemoc_> pff 04:48 < mnemoc_> i'm only at santiago monday and wednesday 04:49 < madtux> good to know.. 04:49 < madtux> query 05:32 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 06:01 < CIA-9> amery * r7822 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/xmame.cache: * added cache file for xmame 06:44 < CIA-9> amery * r7823 /trunk/package/mail/nullmailer/ (4 files): * updated nullmailer localqueue patch to 1.0 06:45 < CIA-9> amery * r7824 /trunk/package/network/prozilla/prozilla.cache: * added cache file for prozilla 06:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7825 /trunk/package/python/pyrexc/pyrexc.cache: * added cache file for pyrexc 07:34 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.200.198.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 07:34 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532 07:34 -!- Topic set by ao [] [Wed Mar 16 09:21:34 2005] 07:34 [Users #t2] 07:34 [ _Ragnar_] [ ideal] [ keinek] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 07:34 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ madtux] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 07:34 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 07:34 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 07:34 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 07:35 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 07:36 < CIA-9> amery * r7828 /trunk/package/ (9 files in 9 dirs): * added cache file for lcdproc, and some others updated. 07:36 < mnemoc> *yawn* 07:36 < mnemoc> good night 07:37 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 07:37 < _Ragnar_> nini 07:37 < _Ragnar_> hey mipe 07:37 < mipe> hi _Ragnar_ 07:37 < _Ragnar_> how's it going? 07:37 < mipe> not bad,and you? 07:38 < _Ragnar_> fine :) 07:38 < mipe> second try on installing t2,this time without runit ,*grrr* 07:38 < _Ragnar_> :D 07:38 < _Ragnar_> does it suck? 07:39 < mipe> _Ragnar_:well i dont know it very well, some might like it. i might like it when i know how it works 07:39 < _Ragnar_> ah okay :) 07:40 < mipe> oh who i'm kidding,yes it sucks 07:41 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 07:46 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.194.204.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:14 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 09:17 -!- You're now known as rxr 09:17 < rxr> re 09:21 < rxr> Sendmail 8.13.4 09:21 < rxr> ^- update anyone? 09:23 < rxr> Gnome Removed From Slackware 09:26 < madtux> rxr, i will update it 09:27 < rxr> hi madtux ! 09:34 < rxr> so /me posted comments to about T2 to two slashdot articles: "no gnome in slackware" and "gentoo 2005.0" 09:39 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r7829 /trunk/package/x11/nxcomp/ (gcc34.patch nxcomp.desc): 09:49 < CIA-9> Herhard Weis : 09:49 < CIA-9> * updated nxcomp (1.4.0-29 -> 1.4.0-31) 09:51 < CIA-9> rene * r7830 /trunk/package/gnome2/loudmouth/loudmouth_gnutls.patch: 09:51 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis : 09:51 < CIA-9> * fixed loudmouth for the actual gnutls version 09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r7831 /trunk/package/gnome2/libsoup/libsoup_gnutls.patch: 09:53 < CIA-9> Gerhard Weis : 09:53 < CIA-9> * fixed libsoup for the actual gnutls version 10:14 < rxr> hey - my bitmap writing code _might_ be finished in some minutes !! 10:18 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 rene rene 0 28 Mar 10:18 ../test.png 10:18 < rxr> well - ok despite beeing empty ... 10:26 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 rene rene 194273 28 Mar 10:26 ../test.png 10:26 < rxr> what about that one *g* 10:27 < rxr> ../test.png: PNG image data, 305 x 311, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced 10:37 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:00 < jsaw> re 11:01 < jsaw> mnemoc: OOo ... 11:01 < rxr> moin jsaw ! 11:01 < jsaw> hi rxr :) 11:01 < jsaw> me impressed, ooo failed in the install stage -> which means it build... 11:02 < jsaw> rxr: did you see my logo design? 11:02 < rxr> yes ,-) 11:02 < rxr> but currently I'm very very busy ... 11:03 < jsaw> no no no, I just wanted to ask... not to push anything 11:03 < rxr> ok ,-) 11:03 < rxr> on the first look I thought wow - nice work 11:03 < rxr> I think that was during cebit, right? 11:03 < rxr> later on I thought we might need something more colorful and easier to read 11:03 < jsaw> well, it's just another proposal 11:04 < rxr> but I need to to take a look again 11:04 < rxr> so far it was the best logo artwork ,-) 11:04 < jsaw> but a place where we keep all proposal would be nice 11:04 < rxr> currently I'm fighting the QuickTime on OSX and it's strange behaviour exporting and compressing the data I hand to it ... 11:05 < rxr> jsaw: indeed ,-) 11:05 < rxr> maybe svn co it into the www-t2 trunk ? 11:05 < jsaw> rxr: yeah, I read it, QD and so on... 11:05 < rxr> yet - but that scanenr stuff should be mostly done then - and hopefully the money starting to flow - ... so I can focus on the important stuff again ... 11:06 < jsaw> imagine a startrek society without money... 11:06 < rxr> yeah - maybe that is why I keep that watching ,-) 11:07 < rxr> without damn policans we might never get there ... .-( 11:07 < jsaw> politicians? .oO(I'd blame it on the big corps twisting minds of 90% of the society) 11:09 < rxr> well - that too - but policans could lead there a bit better and not let all the crap from the companies pass thru - e.g. patents ... 11:09 < jsaw> ok. admitted. 11:09 < rxr> when they would say - software patents and IP law "what the f*ck!" ... 11:10 < rxr> (of course the future world will not depend 100% on software patents - just yet another example ..) 11:10 < jsaw> well at least the ep seems to be _trying_ to do the job 11:11 < jsaw> but as long as the council is paid^Wthere... 11:18 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:19 < rxr> wonderful - my PDF saving works great - and the ordernary bitmap saving get's on my nervs because QuickTime is buggy ... 11:19 < rxr> not doing what I tell that beast to do ... 11:20 < valentin> rxr: that is often the case with apple apis 11:21 < rxr> it already took me 4 hours++ to dig thru all the API mess to plug it together ... 11:21 < rxr> damn ... 11:21 < rxr> I think I shower first ... 11:22 < rxr> valentin: you jump into the train soon ? 11:22 < valentin> rxr: go showering, i will not be that fast 11:24 < rxr> so see you a bit past 12:00 then *g* ? 11:44 < rxr> ok - I shower 11:45 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has joined #t2 11:45 < rxr> it is too boring that converting old style Quick Draw stuff to recent Core Graphics and then writing a PDF works and just dumping the original Quick Draw PICT into a file via QuickTime just produces inaccurate images ... 11:45 < rxr> sigh 11:45 < rxr> cu 12:39 < rxr> so 13:22 < rxr> ./configure: line 34777: /usr/bin/sed: cannot execute binary file 13:22 < rxr> # file /usr/bin/sed 13:22 < rxr> /usr/bin/sed: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), statically linked, stripped 13:22 < rxr> interesting that I do not have more problem ... on that x86 box ... 13:23 < CIA-9> rene * r7832 /trunk/package/e17/evidence/evidence.conf: * fixed evidence to find the avifile and evas includes 13:23 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 13:25 < rxr> hi madtux 13:25 < rxr> ah - our usual sed is at /bin - that is why most stuff sildently continued to work ... 13:26 < madtux> hi ren 13:29 < rxr> hm - my cup seems to have a conditional hole ... 13:29 < rxr> when I code on OSX I fill coffe in and some minutes later the content already vanished ... 13:32 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 13:32 < Minto> Moin 13:34 < rxr> moin Minto 13:40 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.207.186.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 13:40 < sepp> hi 13:41 < sepp> whats the mail address of the devel mailing list? 13:41 < rxr> t2@exactcode.de 13:41 < sepp> ok 13:42 -!- ideal [~idealm_@222.65.118.172] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:43 < rxr> damn us ny athlon build box already old .. 13:43 < rxr> T2 Linux 2.1.0-beta (2004/11/15) 13:43 < rxr> rebuilding glibc ... 13:44 < rxr> in-system - hope it goes well ... 13:46 < Minto> rxr: that's nothing mine is still a rock from 11-2003 13:48 < rxr> well - I have also running server as old as that ... 13:48 < sepp> is there any reason why t2 has an development version of wxwidgets? 13:49 < rxr> sepp: yes - some applications alread need it as fas as jsaw told me ... 13:49 < rxr> ROCK Linux 1.7-snapshot (2003/02/07) 13:49 < rxr> ^- thas was my initial 1.7 build - and it is still runnin in production *g* 13:49 < rxr> sepp: do you debug the problem e.g. with audacity ? 13:49 < Minto> Ahh, you beat me 13:50 < sepp> yes and wired 13:50 < sepp> other sound app 13:50 < rxr> I already thought about adding the stable version, too ... 13:51 < rxr> sepp: you could try downdating it and see if the other wxwidget apps all build - but jsaw said some need the devel version features ... 13:53 < CIA-9> miguelb * r7834 /trunk/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.desc: * updated memtest86 (1.50 -> 1.51) 14:09 < CIA-9> rene * r7835 /trunk/package/audio/hydrogen/ (. hydrogen.desc string.patch): 14:09 < CIA-9> Sebastian Czech: 14:09 < CIA-9> * added hydrogen (0.9.1) 14:09 < madtux> :) 14:32 < valentin> need to reboot - fucking broken OSX usb stack 14:43 < rxr> guess one day this channel get's nominated as "best source for osx bashing" 14:45 < CIA-9> miguelb * r7836 /trunk/package/mail/sendmail/sendmail.desc: * updated sendmail (8.13.3 -> 8.13.4) 14:47 < mnemoc> moin 14:47 < madtux> buenos dias ale 14:47 < mnemoc> mike! how are you? 14:48 < madtux> mnemoc, doing great 14:48 < madtux> :) 14:48 < madtux> you? 14:48 < madtux> slept well my friend? 14:48 < mnemoc> just fine ;) 14:49 < madtux> no headache? 14:50 < mnemoc> no, but my throat is killing me 14:50 < madtux> stop screaming and you will be fine 14:51 < mnemoc> i can't scream if i can't talk :p 14:53 < mnemoc> madtux: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/diff/gnome-libs14.diff <--- look the new dependencies of gnome-lib14 14:55 < rxr> hi mnemoc 14:55 < mnemoc> hi rxr 14:55 < rxr> mnemoc: look into the dep.debug in var/adm for gnome-libs14 ... 14:55 < rxr> then you see where they come from .. 14:57 < madtux> mnemoc, read http://cybux.linuxpreview.org/index.php 14:58 < madtux> interesting mnemoc 14:59 < mnemoc> rxr: opt/gnome2/share/gtk-doc/html/*/index.sgml 14:59 < rxr> ouhm 15:00 < rxr> executing what ? 15:01 < mnemoc> how can i see that? 15:02 < mnemoc> btw, i never noticed dep-debug 15:02 < rxr> it should be the first row ... 15:02 < rxr> mnemoc: so you know now ,-) 15:02 < rxr> ah - no - sorry ... 15:03 < mnemoc> it's the package name 15:05 < rxr> yep I just noticed ... 15:05 < rxr> can you take a look in the log what might have run that touched that files - some gtk-doc or so ? 15:06 < rxr> we should remove those from the dep resolving then ... 15:06 < mnemoc> ok 15:07 < mnemoc> btw, why gawk dep was injected yesterday to all my rebuilds? some generic parse-config? 15:07 < mnemoc> uhm..... there is a --disable-gtk-doc 15:08 < mnemoc> but it does lots of: 15:08 < mnemoc> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. 15:08 < mnemoc> /bin/sh ../../mkinstalldirs /opt/gnome/share/gtk-doc/html/libart 15:18 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["leaving"] 15:23 < rxr> hm - I wonder that awk was not in already ... 15:24 < rxr> --disable-gtk-doc is not the way to go ... 15:24 < rxr> or did you do just for testing ... 15:25 < mnemoc> that's not mine 15:25 < mnemoc> it just on my log :) 15:26 < rxr> we should add a regex to 15:28 < rxr> seems we have no flistdel depdel equivalent right now - seems we should add one ... 15:28 < rxr> no ? 15:29 < mnemoc> that's an easy hack 15:30 < mnemoc> but is it right? 15:33 < rxr> yes 15:34 < rxr> we often have tools that read files in .... 15:34 < rxr> and we want not the pkg to depend on that ... 15:53 < mnemoc> we need dependecies 'categorization' too 15:53 < mnemoc> weak and strong depss 15:53 < mnemoc> build time and runtime deps 15:53 < rxr> that are no dependencies at all - just noised ... 15:53 < rxr> because of bad coded gnome crap touching all files ... 15:53 < rxr> touching as in reading .. 15:53 < mnemoc> ok 15:54 < mnemoc> yes 15:54 < rxr> hower in the futuer we want to mark optional ones - I think manually via the [E] tag ... 15:54 < mnemoc> most deps detectd on reference build are optionals 15:55 < mnemoc> s/most/many/ 15:56 < rxr> off hand I can not think about an way to determine that automatically .. 15:56 < mnemoc> i was thinking in some kind of 'reporting system 15:57 < mnemoc> where people can sed .cache files 15:57 < mnemoc> send* 15:58 < rxr> well - instead of just sending in .cache files we could accept patches to [E] tags, no ? 15:58 < mnemoc> that way you can't know the really minimal deps 15:59 < mnemoc> to do emerge -deps for example 15:59 < rxr> well - we could output them in a form ... 15:59 < rxr> the package built with this dependencies not available: 15:59 < rxr> gnome-libs14 15:59 < rxr> gtk+12 15:59 < rxr> ... 15:59 < rxr> please report that immediatly to t2@exactcode.de 15:59 < mnemoc> sure 15:59 < rxr> we could also curl them into a cgi script ... 15:59 < mnemoc> and some person will have a .cache without that noise 16:00 < mnemoc> merging is easy 16:00 < rxr> I would pass the diff information not the wohle .cache ... 16:00 < rxr> however that is only a implementation detail 16:01 < mnemoc> can you mail it? i'm terribly laged here 16:01 < rxr> mail what ? 16:01 < mnemoc> "please report that immediatly to t2@exactcode.de" <--- i miss understood this 16:02 < rxr> hehe 16:07 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html 16:16 < rxr> errors decreasing ? 16:22 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE338.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 16:22 < mnemoc> yes 16:22 < mnemoc> hi jeru 16:22 < jeru> hola amigos :) 16:22 < jeru> hi mnemoc :) 16:23 < jeru> finaly I'm back in B-City 16:23 < mnemoc> hola jeru, ¿cómo estas? 16:24 < jeru> mnemoc: bueno :) 16:24 < jeru> mnemoc: any news from ldapdns ? 16:25 < mnemoc> it's working :) 16:25 < mnemoc> i'm stoped with nss_ldap now :\ 16:25 < mnemoc> it doesn't authenticate on ldap 16:25 < jeru> mnemoc: with "empty" base ? 16:26 < jeru> or sth like that? 16:26 < mnemoc> nope, well defined base 16:26 < mnemoc> i need to get samba working only for local 'base' 16:27 < jeru> mnemoc: so samba/ldap doesn't work yet ? 16:28 < mnemoc> samba on ldap yes 16:28 < mnemoc> but samba needs local accounts 16:28 < mnemoc> so i need to get nss_ldap and pam_ldap working 16:28 < mnemoc> they connect to server but after trying to bind as 'manager' they get a "ldap_read: want=8 error=Resource temporarily unavailable" 16:29 < jeru> arrrgh ... I've a book about that, which is quite new ... so I could take a look for their config ;) 16:29 < mnemoc> :D 16:29 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc@66.50.157.247] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:29 < mnemoc> my throat and back don't let me think :\ 16:30 < jeru> uhmm ? what happened? 16:30 < mnemoc> just sick 16:32 < jeru> hmmm ... hope you'll be fully "functional" soon 16:33 < mnemoc> i need to deliver this machine tomorrow morning :\ 16:33 < jeru> mnenoc: I'll help you .... can you send me your test config files ? 16:34 < jeru> mnemoc: do you need krb5 support with samba ? 16:35 < mnemoc> i haven't entered on that field yet 16:35 < mnemoc> but i have to 16:36 < mnemoc> *laaaaag* 16:56 < keinek> hi everybody 16:58 < keinek> my target is ready :) 16:58 < keinek> but 6 package dont work 16:58 < keinek> but i dont need gimp 16:58 < keinek> :) 16:58 < jeru> hola keinek 16:59 -!- Minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 16:59 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:59 < keinek> hola jeru 17:17 < keinek> that I can do if when I believe the iso I realize that it creates to me 2 isos, when I loved a distro of 1 iso: can I extract bundles with facility to do one of 1 alone disc? 17:19 < mnemoc> iso contains just what to added to the build, reduce the build package selection adn you will reduce the iso size 17:23 < rxr> and yes, we plan to provide a facitly to control the order of the packages on the iso 17:23 < rxr> so cd1 can be base - and cdX the extra stuff 17:31 < keinek> ok 17:31 < keinek> but if i change the template. 17:31 < keinek> if I change it will not it start compiling everything of zero? 17:32 < rxr> nope 17:32 < mnemoc> just run Config -oldconfig 17:33 < keinek> well do I execute " Config -cfg the same config ", before that I modify my template, I go out and then do I set to create the iso? or must I execute anything more? 17:34 < mnemoc> after you change your template, run Config -oldconfig 17:34 < keinek> 17:34 < keinek> the parsing is taking a lot of time: is always it the same thing when it occupies more than 1 cd? 17:34 < keinek> ok 17:34 < keinek> ok thanks mnemoc 17:42 < keinek> if said parsing for single disc that mean that is one cd right? 17:42 < keinek> but split disc Mmmmm 17:43 < keinek> ok just i wait and for see that it happens. 17:47 < keinek> how much time delay the parsing of the iso? 17:53 < CIA-9> amery * r7837 /trunk/package/ (15 files in 15 dirs): * updated some cache files 17:54 < mnemoc> not much 18:04 < CIA-9> amery * r7839 /trunk/package/e17/efsd/efsd.cache: * added cache file of efsd 18:06 < rxr> mnemoc: if you apply the patches from the list (I 18:06 < rxr> 'm busy) please translate the perl-gettext url to perl-gettext-$ver so other 18:06 < rxr> users are not confused when they see gettext-$ver on our mirrors ... 18:07 < mnemoc> ok 18:08 < keinek> 30 minutes? 18:09 < mnemoc> 2? 18:09 < mnemoc> even 1 18:14 < valentin> re 18:17 < keinek> ok i have a proble 18:18 < keinek> why remain too much? 18:18 < mnemoc> ps aux ? 18:19 < keinek> i running again 18:19 < keinek> when happen again 18:19 < keinek> i do ps aux 18:20 < mnemoc> keinek: you can add -x to #! line of the scripts 18:20 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.97] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:29 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.97] has joined #t2 18:29 < keinek> i bak 18:29 < keinek> back 18:29 < keinek> i reboot the machine and everthing work fine 18:29 < mnemoc> [12:21:34] keinek: you can add -x to #! line of the scripts 18:29 < keinek> the iso ar 550 m 18:30 < keinek> i think that the problem was with samba 18:31 < keinek> some shared resource remained frozen 19:03 * mnemoc adding mono to stage 3 and gettext to stage 5 :'( 19:35 < keinek> keinek minimal desktop iso is ready 19:35 < keinek> INITIALIZING SEQUENCE START 19:35 < keinek> 9 8 7 6 :P 19:43 < keinek> ok... see you! i will install t2 again :D 19:44 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.8.97] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:53 < Minto_> Yuck, I am getting sick of eating chocolat easter eggs. 19:54 < mnemoc> re 19:55 < madtux> ra 19:55 < Minto_> Can't control myself, just had another one. 19:56 < mnemoc> hi Minto_, mightytux 19:56 < Minto_> hi mnemoc 19:56 < Minto_> Can you give me a hand in modifying imlib2/e17-config.in? 19:57 < mnemoc> sure 19:57 < Minto_> I am trying to update all e17 stuff to cvs checkout of yesterday. 19:58 < mnemoc> but? 19:59 < Minto_> This package/e17/imlib2/e17-config.in file mentioned something like NOCONFIGURE. This env var is no longer used. No I try to sed the ./configure out of autogen.sh with the following line. 19:59 < Minto_> hook_add preconf 5 "if [ -e autogen.sh ] ; then sed -i "s/$USER/stupid/" autogen.sh ; sed -i "s/\.\/configure/#\.\/configure/" autogen.sh ; sh autogen.sh ; fi" 19:59 < Minto_> but is does not work properly. even \\ in stead of \ results in all . being replaced by configure. 20:00 < Minto_> How best to trim the ./configure out of autogen.sh 20:01 < mnemoc> that's ugly 20:01 < Minto_> These easter eggs must have clouded my mind. 20:01 < mnemoc> sed -i '/configure/d;' autogen.sh does the job 20:01 < Minto_> I know but what was there is much pretties. 20:01 < Minto_> Does that command delete the whole line? 20:02 < mnemoc> but i guess you wont to do that _alone_ on postpatch 20:02 < mnemoc> yes, that deletes de whole line :) 20:02 < Minto_> Why? 20:02 < mnemoc> what do you want, sorry? 20:02 < mnemoc> i don't feel well 20:02 < Minto_> Have you had to much easter eggs as well? 20:03 < mnemoc> none :) 20:03 < _Ragnar_> moin 20:03 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_ 20:04 < Minto_> What I want is a preconf step where the autogen.sh is exectued, but no configure. The autogen.sh script being executed has a ./configure on the last line. 20:04 < mnemoc> Minto_: sed -i 's,./configure,#./configure,g' autogen.sh 20:04 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 20:04 < Minto_> I thought so, however . seems to be considered a wildcard. 20:05 < mnemoc> s,\./configure,#./configure,g 20:05 < mnemoc> wildcard only on the first part 20:05 < mnemoc> but instead of commenting you should replace it by true 20:05 < Minto_> I tried that too but somehow the \ gets lost. even trying \\ does not work. Sound stupid but lets try 3. 20:06 < mnemoc> because if true; then #foo; fi will fail 20:06 < mnemoc> using single quotes? 20:07 < mnemoc> another cleaner way is to call a funcion on preconf instead of running code 20:07 < mnemoc> on the function you wont have escaping problems 20:07 < Minto_> I have my fingers crossed. 20:08 < mnemoc> hook_add preconf 5 "[ -e autogen.sh ] && e17_hacked_autogen" 20:08 < Minto_> Sure, stupid me I used " in a " string.. 20:08 < mnemoc> :D 20:08 < Minto_> Agreed. I will change it into a function. 20:09 < mnemoc> and replace it by 'true' to avoid empty if/fi 20:10 < Minto_> How do I do that. 20:10 < mnemoc> s,\./configure,true,g 20:11 < Minto_> Okay 20:13 * mnemoc hopes sick mnemoc is not misleading Minto 20:13 < Minto_> In a minute I will find out. 20:16 < Minto_> Well, at least I get different error this time. 20:17 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.8.97] has joined #t2 20:17 < keinek> ok that works :) 20:17 < keinek> but i have some problem. 20:17 < keinek> is i want add some package that i forge. can i add in the template? 20:18 < keinek> and after run build-target? 20:21 < Minto_> mnemoc: It still doesn't work. autogen didn't get changed at all. 20:22 < Minto_> I look at it again tomorrow with a clear head. 20:36 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.8.97] has quit ["Abandonando"] 20:42 < CIA-9> amery * r7840 /trunk/package/network/tor/ (. tor.cache tor.desc): 20:42 < CIA-9> sepp : 20:42 < CIA-9> * added tor (0.0.9.6) 20:44 < CIA-9> amery * r7841 /trunk/package/network/privoxy/ (. makefile.patch privoxy.cache privoxy.conf privoxy.desc): 20:44 < CIA-9> sepp : 20:44 < CIA-9> * added privoxy (3.0.3) 20:47 < CIA-9> amery * r7844 /trunk/package/develop/alternatives/ (. Makefile.patch alternatives.cache alternatives.desc): 20:47 < CIA-9> Minto van der Sluis : 20:47 < CIA-9> * added alternatives (0.2.0rc3) 20:49 < mnemoc> bbl 20:56 -!- madtux [~mike@cable200-116-192-47.epm.net.co] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:14 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.8.97] has joined #t2 21:15 < keinek> ok... i learn that if i add one package in my template, and this package dont exits in the target, that package never compile. 21:15 < keinek> so... 21:15 < keinek> i will add this package in the target :) 21:15 < keinek> and... oh man.... i find that the config of generic destop is easy for work. 21:16 < keinek> :) 21:47 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFE338.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 22:27 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.8.97] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:39 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.11.134] has joined #t2 22:44 -!- Minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:55 -!- keinek [~keinek@201.254.11.134] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:59 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: mnemoc 23:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc 23:08 -!- sparc-kly|UNIV [~mubex@66.50.157.247] has joined #t2 23:28 < rxr> re 23:28 -!- sparc-kly|UNIV [~mubex@66.50.157.247] has quit ["My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"] 23:35 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.11.134] has joined #t2 23:35 < keinek> hi 23:36 < keinek> my t2 is working perfect 23:36 < keinek> ;) 23:39 < rxr> nice ,-) 23:39 < rxr> my OSX is working far from perfect 23:39 < rxr> never worked with a that broken USB stack ... 23:39 < sepp> lol thats why you pay for it 23:42 < sepp> why you have to 23:53 < keinek> xmame work fine ;) 23:53 < keinek> ms pacman is great! 23:58 < mnemoc> rehi --- Log closed Tue Mar 29 00:00:27 2005