--- Log opened Mon Mar 21 00:00:07 2005
--- Day changed Mon Mar 21 2005
00:00 < _Ragnar_> the lib is in /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/libstdc++* ... which is not in the library search path
00:00 < mnemoc> /usr/lib64 is not on ld.so.conf?
00:01  * _Ragnar_ points to what I wrote
00:02 < _Ragnar_> usr/lib64 IS ... but /usr/lib64/gcc/... ISN'T
00:02 < mnemoc> =)
00:03 < mnemoc> missing symlink?
00:03 < _Ragnar_> I assume, yes
00:05 < mnemoc> gcc.conf:173
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00:05 < mnemoc> $root/$prefix/lib ---> $root/$libdir
00:05 < _Ragnar_> that's the bug?
00:05 < mnemoc> i guess
00:06 < mnemoc> _if_ you want lib64/gcc/*/*.so on /usr/lib6
00:06 < mnemoc> 4
00:07 < _Ragnar_> I'd think that's the best way to go
00:08 < _Ragnar_> ah I see :) I got a link in /usr/lib named *.so.* pointing to gcc/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.3/*.so.*
00:08 < _Ragnar_> *g*
00:09 < mnemoc> uhm?
00:09 < mnemoc> literally?
00:10 < mnemoc> that means the globbing failed
00:10 < _Ragnar_> yes because there is no /usr/lib/gcc
00:10 < _Ragnar_> just /usr/lib64/gcc
00:11 < mnemoc> :D
00:11 < mnemoc> $libdir is the solution then
00:12  * _Ragnar_ tries it
00:15 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: doesn't gcc.conf:164 make troubles?
00:16 < mnemoc> gcc.conf:147 references lib too
00:16 < _Ragnar_> yes it does!
00:16 < mnemoc> $libdir==/$prefix/lib{,64}
00:16 < _Ragnar_> $libdir there, too?
00:17 < mnemoc> do the changes keeping $libdir definition in mind
00:17 < _Ragnar_> would be easier if I go into $libdir and link from there
00:20 < mnemoc> follow your instincts :)
00:20 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
00:23 < _Ragnar_> hmm can I remove 2-gcc completely in the build root?
00:24 < mnemoc> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg foo -remove gcc
00:25 < mnemoc> apropos config.guess, commit that. and if you want send a mail to ML arguing against that method :)
00:26 < _Ragnar_> :)
00:29 < mnemoc> after rebuilding 'fixed' 2-gcc don't forget to review the flist :)
00:30 < _Ragnar_> arch-target is /usr/x86_64.../ ?
00:32 < mnemoc> arch-target is x86_64-...
00:33 < _Ragnar_> so $root/$libdir/../$arch-target/lib should always work?
00:33 < mnemoc> yes but why?
00:34 < mnemoc> that's always identical to $root/$prefix/$arch-target/lib
00:34 < mnemoc> ok ok, your instincts :)
00:34 < _Ragnar_> but I don't wanna set an absolute link here
00:34 < mnemoc> better
00:52 < _Ragnar_> *grr* *does Cleanup -full*
00:53 < mnemoc> uhm?
00:53 < mnemoc> assassin instincts?
00:53 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
00:53 < _Ragnar_> what's with the instincts today?
00:54 < mnemoc> nothing :)
00:54 < _Ragnar_> 8)
00:55 < mnemoc> just trying to keep me awake telling dumb jokes
00:56 < _Ragnar_> sleepy?
00:56  * _Ragnar_ sends you coffee
00:57 < mnemoc> thanks :)
00:58 < _Ragnar_> brb, getting something for coffee
01:35 < mnemoc> *yawn*
01:44 < _Ragnar_> re
01:44 < mnemoc> how is it going?
01:45 < _Ragnar_> 1-linux24 right now
01:45  * _Ragnar_ is making coffee
01:45 < _Ragnar_> I should've gotten a 939 a64
01:45 < mnemoc> a 939 a64?
01:46 < _Ragnar_> yes
01:46 < _Ragnar_> a socket 939
01:46 < mnemoc> aha
01:46 < mnemoc> i'm not aware of new sockets of new archs :)
01:47 < _Ragnar_> =)
01:47 < _Ragnar_> 939 has two memory channels -> faster main memory access
01:47 < mnemoc> and you have?
01:47 < mnemoc> brb
01:47 < _Ragnar_> 756 (?)
01:48 < mnemoc> any difference in addition to the memory channels?
01:48 < mnemoc> my last adm was a k5 :)
01:48 < mnemoc> AMD
01:48 < _Ragnar_> :D
01:49 < _Ragnar_> 754 ... well the newer dual core a64's are only 939
01:49 < _Ragnar_> so I can't upgrade in half a year of so
02:00 < _Ragnar_> 1-gcc .... this takes sooo long
02:02 < mnemoc> oh, the football team 'directed' by my uncle got 'forth of final' on EUFA
02:03 < _Ragnar_> O_O
02:03 < _Ragnar_> kewl
02:04 < mnemoc> villarreal, from spain
02:04 < _Ragnar_> O_O
02:04 < _Ragnar_> now I get shared files error between gcc and glibc
02:04 < mnemoc> uhm?
02:04 < mnemoc> what files?
02:05 < _Ragnar_> usr/lib64/crti.o|crtn.o and so on
02:06 < mnemoc> uhm
02:09 < mnemoc> # grep crtn.o var/adm/flists/*
02:09 < mnemoc> var/adm/flists/gcc:gcc: usr/i686-t2-linux-gnu/lib/crtn.o
02:09 < mnemoc> var/adm/flists/glibc:glibc: usr/lib/crtn.o
02:10 < mnemoc> so, gcc should not symlink that one
02:13 < _Ragnar_> so should I comment that out?
02:14 < mnemoc> no no
02:14 < mnemoc> gcc symlinks glibc files
02:14 < mnemoc> do ln -fvs ../../lib/$x $x ; done
02:15 < mnemoc> being at 'cd $root/$prefix/$arch_target/lib'
02:15 < _Ragnar_> huh?
02:15 < _Ragnar_> the usr/lib file is a symlink usually, isn't it?
02:15 < mnemoc> not in this case
02:15 < _Ragnar_> O_O
02:16 < _Ragnar_> sure?
02:16 < mnemoc> yes, usr/lib/crt*  are files here
02:17 < _Ragnar_> should they go to lib, or to lib64?
02:17 < mnemoc> # l usr/lib/crt1.o
02:17 < mnemoc> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1.2K 2005-03-10 14:34 usr/lib/crt1.o
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02:17 < mnemoc> # l usr/i686-t2-linux-gnu/lib/crt1.o
02:17 < mnemoc> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 2005-03-10 15:07 usr/i686-t2-linux-gnu/lib/crt1.o -> ../../lib/crt1.o
02:17 < _Ragnar_> okay
02:17 < ideal> morning
02:18 < mnemoc> hi ideal :)
02:19 < _Ragnar_> I think that was the problem earlier, that they went to /usr/lib, which didn't have any of those files
02:21 < mnemoc> ../../..$libdir/crt1.o
02:21 < _Ragnar_> okay changed that
02:21 < mnemoc> or ${libdir#/$prefix}
02:22 < _Ragnar_> rebuilding gcc now
02:22 < mnemoc> to have only lib/lib64 part
02:22 < mnemoc> remove it fist
02:22 < mnemoc> the 'share' mark will be there if not
02:22 < mnemoc> gcc and glibc sadly
02:22 < _Ragnar_> k
02:22 < _Ragnar_> that'll take a while
02:23 < mnemoc> that's the sad part
02:26 < ideal> hi mnemoc:)
02:26 < mnemoc> i'll go to bed now
02:26 < mnemoc> hi ideal :)
02:26 < _Ragnar_> goodnight mnemoc thanks for the help
02:26 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: good luck :)
02:26 < _Ragnar_> thanks :)
02:27 < mnemoc> ideal: when will we see you asking things? :)
02:28 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
02:30 < mnemoc> ./configure --prefix=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9 --bindir=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9/bin --sbindir=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9/sbin --libdir=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9/lib --datadir=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9/share --includedir=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9/include --infodir=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9/info --mandir=/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9/man --sysconfdir=/etc/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9 --localstatedir=/var/opt/OpenOffice.org-1.9 --disable-debug --enable-libpam --enable-pam --build=i686-t2-linu
02:31 < mnemoc> and the b*stard convert it to:
02:31 < mnemoc>  Config:     '--with-ant-home=/usr/share/ant1.6 --without-myspell-dicts --enable-libsn --disable-fontooo --with-system-expat --with-system-odbc-headers --with-system-neon --with-system-nas --with-system-sane-header --with-system-xrender-headers --enable-openldap --enable-gnome-vfs
02:31 < mnemoc> --with-java=gij-4.0 --enable-pasf --with-system-sndfile --disable-binfilter --disable-crashdump --disable-epm --enable-crashdump=no --enable-cups --enable-fontconfig --with-build-version="Build 1.9.86.2" --with-lang="en-US" --without-fonts --without-gpc --with-system-freetype --with-system-gcc --with-system-jpeg --with-system-libxml --with-system-mozilla --with-system-python --with-system-zlib --enable-gtk --enable-kde
02:31 < mnemoc>  --with-images='industrial crystal' --with-system-stdlibs --without-java '
02:31 < mnemoc> --disable-gnome-vfs ---> --enable-gnome-vfs
02:33 < ideal> mnemoc: I just did a relocation, so busy:) But I was keeping taking care of t2. I'll try to do something later:)
02:34 < mnemoc> good :)
02:34 < mnemoc> where do you live? (i have a map here :-)
02:35 < ideal> mnemoc: Shanghai, China. Are you familiar with it.
02:35 < mnemoc> that's one of the three city names i know there :)
02:37 < mnemoc> beigin, shanghai and canton
02:39 < mnemoc> i would love to say some day we have users on shanghai :D
02:40 < mnemoc> we have on USA, finland, germany, cameroon, chile (me) and with you we would cover the globe
02:46 < ideal> :) That's a good idea. Welcome to Shanghai, China:)
02:47 < mnemoc> :D
02:48 < mnemoc> btw, i was expecting a cityname which i would take an hour to find in the map :p
02:50 < ideal> It's an interesting thing:)
02:53 < mnemoc> jsaw: distro-config/*.conf.in overwrite anything i give to ./configure. I guess we should create our own distro-config
02:57 < mnemoc> jsaw: ^-- openoffice
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04:37 < Postal> Hey all
04:38 < Postal> FC4-test1 has been out for 5 days, and they have more updates than god... but its compiling t2 very nicley ;-)
04:39 < Postal> I just had to get a look at gnome 2.10 and gcc 4.0... it was too much to resist..
04:41 < Postal> anyone around?
06:10 < Postal> well im checking out
06:10 < Postal> ttyal
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06:42 < rxr_> re
06:42 -!- You're now known as rxr
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 394 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 5891 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 5892 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 5893 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 5900 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 768 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 7265 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 8228 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> Out of Memory: Killed process 8229 (thunderbird-bin).
07:21 < rxr> aha ...
07:21 < _Ragnar_> ooh?
07:26 < rxr> now I know why thunderbird vanishes from time to time ...
07:26 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
07:26 < _Ragnar_> memory leak
07:26 < _Ragnar_> btw I've got some commits to check
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07:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I'm out of time today and tomorrow ...
07:33 < rxr> mnemoc: could have a look - or the list - or just commit and let us review ...
07:33 < rxr> sorry
07:36 < mipe> morning all
07:36 < rxr>  xMule 1.10.0
07:36 < rxr> hi mipe 
07:37 < mipe> _Ragnar_: newest gcc modifications by is here:http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/2005-03-10/gcc.patch
07:38 < mipe> _Ragnar_: but thats obsolete(?) as arch/pkg_$pkg_post.conf is implemented and working(?)
07:46 < rxr> mipe: no - that should be in gcc - since other arches are affected, too
07:46 < rxr> please use $libdir for the var assignment
07:47 < rxr> as in glibc:
07:47 < rxr> [[ $libdir = *lib64 ]] && slibdir=lib64 || slibdir=lib
07:47 < rxr> so it works for all arches that have a lib64 dir ...
07:47 < mipe> rxr:yep but i was referreing to /usr/$arch-t2-, for x86-64 its good to create i386-t2-* too since ld expects to find 32bit libs there, so that emulation arch should go to arch specific post?
07:49 < mipe> yep will change that
07:51 < mipe> 32bit libs where at /usr/x86-64-t2-*/lib/32 at first but i think proper way is to create /usr/i386*
07:54 < mipe> too early to type, what I meant was to get rid of my emulation_arch stuff from gcc.conf and put them to arch/post.conf
07:55 < mipe> 1471 builds total, 502 completed fine, 32 with errors.
07:57 < CIA-9> ragnar * r7622 /trunk/package/base/automake/ (automake.conf automake.desc): * automakes config.sub|guess is needed for 1-patch x86_64
08:01 < CIA-9> ragnar * r7623 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf: * use $libdir instead of $prefix/lib (will be lib64 on x86_64)
08:05 < _Ragnar_> mipe: I didn't need the patch any more ... the recent changes seem to work fine
08:06 < mipe> _Ragnar_:yep, glibc32 might introduce some problems unless 32bit libs are at /usr/i386
08:06 < mipe> ups
08:07 < mipe> /usr/i386-*/lib or at /usr/x86-64-*/lib/32
08:08 < _Ragnar_> oh
08:09 < _Ragnar_> .oO(what do we need 32 bit libs for anyway, beside grub/lilo?)
08:10 < mipe> and syslinux
08:10 < mipe> there are others too just dont remember them all
08:11 < _Ragnar_> wouldn't it be easier to just build those in a cross-chroot?
08:12 < mipe> hmm might be...
08:15 < _Ragnar_> unless someday a kernel patch comes along that lets 32bit programs run in 64bit:)
08:15 < _Ragnar_> which would be _very_ useful:D
08:15 < mipe> indeeed
08:18 < CIA-9> mika * r7624 /trunk/package/multimedia/ffmpeg/ffmpeg.conf: * add -fPIC to ffmpeg to resolv ld error
08:20 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
08:20 < _Ragnar_>    "If you put 64-bit Red Hat OS on a box, it will run 32-bit
08:20 < _Ragnar_>    applications and 64-bit applications.
08:20 < _Ragnar_> http://www.networkmagazine.com/shared/article/showArticle.jhtml?articleId=47205169&pgno=2
08:21 < _Ragnar_> hmm or maybe not:
08:21 < _Ragnar_>    In order to run a 32-bit application as a 64-bit application, it must
08:21 < _Ragnar_>    be recompiled for a 64-bit OS.
08:22 < _Ragnar_> *grrrr*
08:22 < mipe> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/17/black_holes_new_york/
08:24 < _Ragnar_> but gentoo says it works :P so it's just a matter of finding out how
08:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: when you want to run binary onlx 32bit stuff you need the 32bit libs, too ...
08:43 < _Ragnar_> rxr: yeah I noticed that now
08:44 < _Ragnar_> I was confused by 32bit stuff always segfaulting when I ran it
08:48 < rxr> does it work now? or does it still seggault ?
08:48 < _Ragnar_> what? the 64 bit stuff seems to work much better now
08:49 < _Ragnar_> I'm not yet at the point where I can test 32bit stuff, I started a whole new build
08:50 < _Ragnar_> but I'll leave the comp running through the night
08:54 < _Ragnar_> btw ... great work!
08:54  * _Ragnar_ heads off to bed
08:54 < _Ragnar_> goodnight folks
08:54 < rxr> n8 _Ragnar_ 
09:22 < mipe> 1471 builds total, 575 completed fine, 41 with errors.
09:22 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/t2-logs/ for errors
09:22  * mipe is away(school)
09:46 -!- mipe is now known as mipe|school
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10:55 < Minto> Hi all
11:08 < mipe|school> hi Minto
11:14 < Minto> Hi mipe|school
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13:28 < jsaw> re
13:37 < jsaw> mipe|school: black hole...: http://www.arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0501068
13:54 < rxr> hi jsaw 
13:54 < jsaw> hi rxr
13:54 < jsaw> rxr: Spiegel (online) on Linux...
13:55 < rxr> damn - electronic exam wasn't that good ...
13:55 < rxr> nopefully math will be better tomorrow ...
13:56 < jsaw> good luck
13:56 < rxr> jsaw: linux spiegel where ?
13:57 < mipe|school> 1472 builds total, 688 completed fine, 53 with errors.
13:57 < jsaw> rxr: scroll down www.spiegel.de
13:57 < rxr> this "linux ueberfordert user" ?
13:57 < jsaw> yep...
13:57 < jsaw> "Quaelen an der Quelle"
14:02 < rxr> woww
14:02 < jsaw> wow?
14:03 < jsaw> .oO(wtf do I have to boot XP now...)
14:06 < rxr> you boot xp ?
14:07 < jsaw> only for Word... the preffered way of editing docs in our insititute *sigh*
14:07 < rxr> aha ...
14:07 < jsaw> .oO(did I ever say that I thank vmware very much)
14:08 < jsaw> left monitor: mozilla, evolution, xterm+screen+irssi, right monitor: vmware+XP...
14:09 < rxr> I did not know that there is a file interchange format called .doc ...
14:09 < jsaw> hehe
14:33 < rxr>  XScreenSaver 4.21 
14:51 < mnemoc> moin
14:58 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
14:58  * rxr backgrounded ...
14:58 < mnemoc> hehe
14:58 < mnemoc> xscreensaver 4.21 added to be build queue, but changes on gcc will make that long
14:59  * mnemoc to class :|
15:00 < mnemoc> kaffeine shares with kaxtv
15:00 < mnemoc> two new broken to the list :\
15:41 < mipe|school> ls -lh 5-busybox.err
15:41 < mipe|school> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root         788M 2005-03-21 16:24 5-busybox.err
15:41 < mipe|school> lol
15:43 < rxr> mipe|school: some loop ?
15:43 < rxr> filling the log ... ?
15:44 < mipe|school> rxr:probably, quick look shows that it outputs somekind of menu system there
15:45 < mipe|school> yep filled with menu data
15:45 < mipe|school> ie no building done
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16:20 < rxr> rehi mipe 
16:20 < rxr> jsaw: do you know anything opensource and able to do symbolic math?
16:20 < rxr> of course including differentiation and integration ...
16:20 < rxr> ??
16:22 < mipe> http://fung-calc.sourceforge.net/features.html
16:22 < mipe> ups
16:23 < mipe> dont know if does diffrential equations
16:23 < jsaw> rxr: maxima
16:24 < rxr> the last time I tried clisp did not build ...
16:24 < rxr> segfaulting or so ...
16:24 < jsaw> does gcl build?
16:24 < jsaw> ginsh
16:24 < jsaw> eh, ginac
16:26 < rxr> does fung-calc replace qmatplot ?
16:26 < jsaw> have to go, cu later
16:26 < rxr> cu jsaw 
16:26 < rxr> thanks for the pointers
16:26 < jsaw> np, bye
16:31 < mipe> actually i havent used fung-calc,we(class) used matlab as we had to return matlab files from assignments
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17:12 < jeru> moin
17:14 < rxr> hi jsaw 
17:14 < rxr> jeru: even ,-(
17:16 < jeru> hi rxr :)
17:16 < jeru> rxr: how was your exam?
17:17 < rxr> don't ask ...
17:17 < jeru> grrrr ... sorry
17:17 < rxr> but thanks for your interrest ...
17:18 < rxr> -r
17:53 < rxr> oh
17:53 < rxr>   20:15| PRO 7
17:53 < rxr>  Wing Commander
17:53 < rxr> and I have to learn math ...
17:53 < rxr> damn
17:54 < rxr> ok - well I have dvbdump ,-)
17:54 < rxr> the movie will suck anyway I guess
17:54 < rxr> just that I have not yet seen it - I think
18:02 < mipe> what tv card you have?
18:24 < rxr> 00:0b.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)
18:25 < rxr> Haupauge Nova-T or so .. 
18:25 < rxr> DVB-T receiver card ...
18:26 < rxr> I'm under the lucky ones in germany that got MPEG2 via terestrical broadcasting here in Berlin ...
18:27 < mipe> yep i have digi box made by nokia that has hd to record stuff, but theres no easy way to transfer them to pc.
18:29 < rxr> and I can dump on HD and have no nice gui frontend since all open source stuff for DVB just sucks ...
18:29 < rxr> but - well - better low level command line stuff than no direct mpeg2 access at all ,-)
18:35 < _Ragnar_> wing commander? rarely seen a worse movie
18:36 < rxr> I can imagine ...
18:36 < mipe> hmm,is there a builddir defined in some variable, ie. src.ruby.*/ruby-1.8.2
18:36 < mipe> not just the src.ruby.* but the source directory too
18:38 < rxr> not srcdir as it AFAIR
18:38 < rxr> it is dynamically detected
18:38 < mipe> yep,will just hardcode for now
18:38 < rxr> I would need to look up if $srcdir  is valid inside the build_this_package ...
18:40 < mipe> 1472 builds total, 730 completed fine, 54 with errors.
18:41 < rxr> ohje ...
18:42 < mnemoc> rehi
18:42 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
18:42 < jeru> hi mnemoc
18:43 < mnemoc> hi rxr, jeru 
18:49 < CIA-9> mika * r7625 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.conf: 
18:49 < CIA-9> *ruby,export RUBYLIB after make to resolv
18:49 < CIA-9> errors during documentation install.
18:54 < mnemoc> mika is?
18:54 < jeru> mika=mipe
18:54 < jeru> ;)
18:54 < mnemoc> :)
18:54 < mnemoc> mika pe*: ffmpeg failed here
18:55 < CIA-9> chris * r7626 /trunk/package/python/python-ldap/ (. python-ldap.conf python-ldap.desc): * added python-ldap package (2.0.6)
18:56 < mnemoc> jeru: ldapdns?
18:56 < jeru> count down starts ;)
18:56 < mnemoc> :D
18:57 < _Ragnar_> re
18:57 < mipe> mnemoc: whats the error on ffmpeg,it builded fine on me
18:57 < mipe> http://212.66.194.40/t2-logs/progress for progress
18:57 < mipe> and http://212.66.194.40/t2-logs/ for error-logs
18:58 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html
19:01 < mnemoc> weird to see something building in amd64 and failing on i686
19:02 < mipe> hmm actually ffmpeg failed first but that was because it couldnt link with <file> but that was resolved by adding -fPIC
19:03 < mipe> -fPIC shouldnt affect negativily even it doesnt need it? as i was under impression that it doesnt harm anything even that it doesnt need it,so i have added them to packages without checks for $arch or so
19:03 < mnemoc> i assume it was broken before then
19:07 < rxr> ack - does not harm anything ...
19:08 < CIA-9> amery * r7627 /trunk/package/x11/xscreensaver/xscreensaver.desc: * updated xscreensaver (4.20 -> 4.21)
19:09 < mnemoc> hi rxr 
19:11 < mipe> mnemoc:busybox builded on you?
19:11 < mipe> mnemoc:it looped on me during ./setup creating ~700mb log file
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19:38 < rxr> mnemoc_: how do we want to proceed with 2.1 ?
19:38 < rxr> I need some of my athlon horse-power of the next days for gcc 4.0
19:38 < rxr> analysis and benchmarking ...
19:39 < mnemoc_> rxr: what do you mean? commit policy on stable branch?
19:41 < rxr> it was just a request for comments ...
19:41  * mnemoc_ is slow todat
19:42 < mnemoc_> todya
19:42 < mnemoc_> todAY
19:44 < mnemoc_> about commit policy i thought in commit everything what doesn't change: prefix, config, abi, api. if an update needs another update, that update is not allowed. until we have a second stable, where the 'old' stable only gets security updates
19:45 < rxr> yep
19:45 < rxr> when do we want -final ?
19:46 < rxr> e.g. I would like to tweak the rocknet and init "script" installtion to /sbin/init.d and /sbin/rocknet or so whatever
19:46 < rxr> need to think about it ...
19:46 < mnemoc_> when it gets on an state where we can keep commit policy :)
19:46 < rxr> and we need to tweak gas-gui / mine for postinstall ...
19:46 < mnemoc_> than needs to go before rc1 or on 2.2
19:46 < mnemoc_> imho
19:47 < mnemoc_> i prefer before rc1 :)
19:47 < rxr> I would like to have the path changes in 2.1 ...
19:47 < mnemoc_> preinstall/postinstall would be nicer, to allow migration and conversions
19:48 < rxr> in trunk the postinstall stuff already goes into /etc/postinstall.d ...
19:49 < mnemoc_> Emerge-Pkg doesn't delete old files, SO, updating to /sbin/{init.d,rocknet} would duplicate the files
19:49 < mnemoc_> and that's evil for an stable
19:49 < mnemoc_> but we can do it before rc1, fix it during rc1-final, and improve after final without damaging
19:54 < CIA-9> amery * r7628 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: * improved AuditBuild.sh -w (web) mode to keep diffs and errorlogs on an special directory
20:02 < rxr> mnemoc_: my plan is anyway to improve the Build-Pkg -update mode to wipe not reinstalled - that is outdated - files ...
20:02 < mnemoc_> that would be good
20:06 < CIA-9> amery * r7629 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: * fixed AuditBuild.sh
20:07 < CIA-9> amery * r7630 /trunk/misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh: * added RegressionsReport.sh script to generate a nice web output showing the state of a build and svn changes related
20:07 < mnemoc_> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- now it show the changes :D
20:08 < mnemoc_> RegressionsReport.sh is hardcoded to config=ref but that's very easy to change,
20:08 < mnemoc_> i have to go to a class.... bbl
20:08 < jeru> cu
20:09 < mnemoc_> jeru: commit dnsldap please, i want to use it
20:09 < mnemoc_> cu :)
20:09 < jeru> just do some beautifications ;)
20:17 < rxr> mnemoc_: please revert the audacity NOPARALLEL tag
20:17 < rxr> it are general wxwidget not matching version errors ..
20:18 < rxr> mnemoc_: please look at the error before you NOPARALLEL packages - parallel usually yields no rule to make target or header not found ... errors ...
20:18 < rxr> real compile errors are not due to parallel ...
20:18 < rxr> (at lease very seldom ...)
20:19 < rxr> damn
20:19 < rxr> missed the wind comander start
20:19 < rxr> well - at least then I do not waste disk space letting it linger around ...
20:29 < rxr> hm - "nice" 32197 rene      16   0  120m  74m  15m S  0.0 11.9   8:06.68 thunderbird-bin    <- hunderbird is my top memory consumer on the 640MB iBook ...
20:29 < rxr> followed with a T2 flist processing awk with "35m" and X with "20m" ...
20:29  * rxr back math
20:44 < rxr> http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10047
20:44 < rxr> ^- I thought 2005 is the year of T2 ... - sigh
20:45 < rxr> wel - maybe we get 2006 and the future then ,-)
20:46 < rxr> damn this word pdf hurts my eyes ...
20:47 < rxr> not only is the typsetting abd in general - on most formulas the fraction lines are missing ...
21:11 < rxr> the light flickering when my laser printer is powered up scares me ...
21:14 < CIA-9> chris * r7631 /trunk/package/network/ldapdns/ (7 files): *added ldapdns package (2.06)
21:19 < CIA-9> chris * r7632 /trunk/package/network/radiusclient-ng/ (. radiusclient-ng.desc): * added radiusclient-ng package (0.5.0)
21:21 < jsaw> re
21:21 < jeru> hi jsaw :)
21:21 < rxr> hi jsaw 
21:21 < jsaw> hi jeru , rxr 
21:21 < jsaw> :)
21:22 < jsaw> rxr: I'm writing to AMD currently, did you approach them recently?
21:22 < rxr> yep
21:22 < jsaw> okay, so I shouldn't.
21:22 < rxr> yo should
21:24 < jeru> rxr, jsaw: any problems with AMD?
21:24 < CIA-9> chris * r7633 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/ldapdns-ldapdns.tail: * added ldapdns tail for runit
21:25 < rxr> jeru: nope - aside getting hardware sponsored ...
21:28 < jeru> please don't forget an "AMD64-Horse" for me ... hehe ;)
21:29 < jsaw> :)
21:30 < rxr> damn - f*cking printer
21:31  * _Ragnar_ writes to AMD 'I want to support dual core opterons, can you give me a test system' :)
21:31 < rxr> "Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)!" 
21:31 < rxr> I need this paper printer ....
21:32 < rxr> printed ... - damn
21:32 < rxr> I know why I wanted a PS printer - and not a raster dumper ...
21:32 < rxr> that even does not like certain raster data ..
21:33 < jeru> Ragnar now ... you can wake up! -SNIP- :)
21:38 < rxr> hm - interesting
21:39 < rxr> when I print my card - it works ...
21:39 < rxr> the test page, too ...
21:43 < rxr> aha
21:43 < rxr> seems to be cups or kde's fault
21:43 < rxr> printing to file and then lpr_cups that file works ...
21:43 < rxr> f*cking priting system
21:43  * rxr moves "state of the art printing system" higher on the personal todo
21:45 < _Ragnar_> :D
21:48 < rxr> damn - printing all those files is no fun ...
21:48 < rxr> all those singles jpegs ...
21:48 < rxr> what a dump paper storage format ...
21:49 < rxr> if konqueror could scale pages before printing ...
21:49 < rxr> and if direct pringing would work ...
21:49 < rxr> there are so many if's in that print procedure ...
21:49 < rxr> damn - need to debug that soon urgently ...
21:50 < _Ragnar_> :)
21:52 < rxr> damn php sites ...
21:54 < rxr> ach - f*ck
21:54 < rxr> how can one code that crap ..
21:54 < rxr> totally user unfriendly ...
21:54 < rxr> such stuff can only be done that bad at my university ..
21:54 < rxr> *grummel*
21:56 < jeru> rxr: don't worry ... isn't only the case at TFH :/
21:59 < jsaw> relocating self to lab, cu
21:59 < rxr> well - ok - jsaw with .doc file, ...
21:59 < jsaw> _*grummel*_
21:59 < rxr> at least I need no xp to frickel the jpg files out of the php junk ...
22:00 < jsaw> _*grummel*_
22:00 < rxr>  mmv '*.php' '#1.jpg'
22:01 < rxr> so - now let's imagemagick batch print those ..
22:01 < rxr> thanks konqueror has auto raname ...
22:01 < rxr> so each file was only 3 or so clicks away ...
22:04 < rxr> ( set -x ; for x in `ls -rt *.jpg`  ; do convert $x ${x/.jpg/.ps}; lpr_cups ${x/.jpg/.ps} & done )
22:05 < rxr> so
22:05 < rxr> I guess I need to go coding on KDE - the image printing from konqueror stinks ...
22:08 < rxr> I want to go to bed ..
22:08 < rxr> damn ..
22:09 < _Ragnar_> me too
22:11 < rxr> "Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)!"
22:11 < rxr> I get too much ...
22:13 < rxr> rene@idefix:~/temp$ convert -scale "75%" access.jpg access.ps
22:13 < rxr> let's see if the printer eats that ..
22:20 < jsaw> re
22:20 < rxr> I don't believe this - I get not some formula printed because the f*cing printer firmware does not like my page sizes ...
22:21 < jsaw> tried printing it with gimp?
22:21 < rxr> I do not want to open 30 pages with gimp ..
22:22 < jsaw> ...
22:26 < jsaw> ouhm? Excute code by mounting a CD???? 
22:27 < rxr> on linux ?
22:27 < jsaw> yep
22:28 < jsaw> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/57753
22:28 < rxr> question or bug ?
22:28 < jsaw> bug
22:29 < jsaw> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/393590/2005-03-11/2005-03-17/0
22:30 < jsaw> .oO(don't trust a system that you haven't screwed yourself)
22:30 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
22:34 < rxr> damn - why is processing some damn postscript or image that hard
22:34 < rxr> and why is writing useful error messages simillarly difficult ...
22:34 < rxr> "Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)!" 
22:35 < rxr> why - what where ?
22:35 < rxr> damn crap ...
22:36 < rxr> hm - it can not be the page size alone
22:36 < rxr> I injected the bounding box of the cups test side that prints
22:36 < rxr> and still the error ...
22:38 < jsaw> and setting a few options does not help either?
22:40 < rxr> no
22:42 < rxr> there is something in the imagemagic generated postscript the rasterizer does not like ...
22:42 < rxr> generates s.th. the printer does not like ..
22:42 < rxr> no matter what size I set ..
22:43 < rxr> no gimp installed ...
22:43 < rxr> what else can jpg to ps ?
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22:46 < rxr> jpeg2ps ...
22:47 < rxr> does not work either
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22:48 < root__> rxr?
22:48 < rxr> yes
22:48 < root__> we go now in new iniroom
22:48 < rxr> aha
22:48 < root__> please shutdown gsmp
22:48 < root__> now
22:49 < rxr> ok
22:49 -!- root__ is now known as haiko
22:49 < rxr> The system is going down for system halt NOW!
22:49 < haiko> danach machen wir ihn sofort wieder an
22:49 < rxr> danke - passt schon
22:49 < haiko> und alles bestanden?
22:49 < rxr> frag nicht ..
22:49 < haiko> hab gehoert du hasst ein bissl trouble
22:49 < rxr> jaja ...
22:50 < haiko> sagma steht zeitablauf oder 1 sem auf der doku?
22:50 < rxr> und gerade bekomme ich die mathe boegen nicht gedruckt ..
22:50 < haiko> ohje
22:50  * rxr scheisst gleich seinen neuen farb laser drucker aus dem fenster ..
22:50 < rxr> but LANG=en ...
22:50 < rxr> have fun in the uni - and cu then ...
22:50  * rxr soon in bed ...
22:50 < haiko> okay
22:50 < haiko> ich haue wieder ab
22:50 < haiko> viel glueck morgen
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22:52 < rxr> ok - blatt egal ...
22:53 < rxr> http://www.pdflib.com/products/more/jpeg2ps.htmlhttp://www.pdflib.com/products/more/jpeg2ps.html
22:53 < rxr> only one of course
22:53 < rxr> http://www.pdflib.com/products/more/jpeg2ps.html
22:53 < rxr> procudes tiny quick rendering .ps files
22:53 < rxr> quite neat - just that they do not print neither
22:53 < rxr> but show up on gv ...
22:57 < rxr> This software is free. You are granted the right to use and copy it. This
22:57 < rxr> software may not be sold or bundled with any commercial package without
22:57 < rxr> express written permission of the author.
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23:10 < rxr> hm
23:11 < rxr> s.th. is wrong with my selfbuld driver
23:11 < rxr> usig the binary only one on my athlon it seems to work ..
23:11 < rxr> hm - even the jpeg2ps optimized ones come out well ..
23:11 < rxr> ok - I package it tomorrow
23:11 < rxr> and I have nice stuff to debug ... :-(+
23:16 < rxr> so - bed
23:16 < rxr> crap
23:23 < jeru> n8 rxr
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